Pause on Airpods Pro is only one press
#peripherals-and-displays
pure lava
west hornet
i think he was using the non pros
rigid valve
maybe something closed back
Budget?
rigid valve
Creative Aurvana L!VE SE I would say
rigid valve
it's for my brother, earphone cables can't reach pc
Wait you need wireless or what
calm cobalt
if there are cheap wireless options that'd be good too
rigid valve
There are cheap wireless options but they all suck in terms of sound
rigid valve
Like hardcore CSGO Valorant kinda gaming or like Minecraft chill
calm cobalt
tryhard valorant scrub lel
rigid valve
Hmmm
calm cobalt
uhh basically casual fps gaming
rigid valve
Honestly?
KSC75 or Porta Pro
Best positional audio
Otherwise you could get something like creative aurvana l!ve SE
Worse positional audio but punchy bass
calm cobalt
alright, ima ask him if he cares about positional audio, he probably won't like the look of the ksc75's 
ivory fable
Pause on Airpods Pro is only one press
Tried that, it did nothing, only double tap worked
calm cobalt
CAL SE look more like traditional headphones
you have more suggestions?
sly warren
you have more suggestions?
Nope, because that's really it for super cheap options.
Everything else is hot goobage.
Ok
I say that.
But there are also IEMs
Here's a list of gear I have some experience with (Either owned or listened to)
queen sigil
skip trace know all
sly warren
I don't know EVERYTHING. But I don't lead people astray into the world of garbage headsets.
tight pulsar
rigid valve
Ayo nachos you play wotb?
sly warren
wotb?
bleak ember
World of Tanks Blitz?
sly warren
Who would play the crappy mobile port of an already mediocre game?
bleak ember
Many people
sly warren
And those people are what we call dumb.
floral lake
sometimes people enjoys crap
rigid valve
If you can get over how bad the game is it’s kinda fun
tight pulsar
Ayo nachos you play wotb?
why
hollow flower
God World of Tanks is already a mediocre game, why would you play an even worse version of it?
I regret putting over 5k hours into Wot
floral lake
clem has a point
tight pulsar
i played it a few years ago when it was fun to mess around
queen sigil
lmao https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104800.msg3078724#msg3078724
soooo what is he complaining about lol
atomic oyster
I don’t think I’ve ever played world of tanks
tight pulsar
sprue marks
radiant belfry
Recommendations for a new mouse? FPS-wise
:>
radiant belfry
what budget
100$-150$
radiant belfry
and hand size?
Probs Medium? Not really sure but yeah I'll go with medium
daring zenith
can prob do like orochi v2 or model o wireless
daring zenith
between?
radiant belfry
yep
radiant belfry
When it comes to Claw Grip
daring zenith
orochi is a bit smaller iirc
radiant belfry
Ahh
daring zenith
mice are at a point where the sensors are about good enough that it doesn't really come into account, so now it's just a lot of preference in shapes
radiant belfry
I'm still stuck with my DeathAdder Elite and idek what mouse I'm going to get 
But yeah might go for Orochi since it's much cheaper
and shape is pretty good
daring zenith
model o wireless still another option you might want to keep in mind but ye
sly warren
Honestly you don't really feel the texture at all
radiant belfry
mhmm
sly warren
I've moved back and forth between my Orochi V2 and Model O. Other than size they feel the same.
radiant belfry
I tend to have sweaty hands so it could be a problem
daring zenith
yea
sly warren
Because air can move through the holes
daring zenith
Honeycomb is good for sweaty hands
the sweat won't really coat the mouse and make it harder to grip
radiant belfry
Oooooh didn't think of that
sly warren
My Viper used to be really sweaty. And my Model O really only gets sweat buildup on the Right mouse button and the right side grip
daring zenith
yea I only really see sweat get on rmb or right side of my mow
there is a thing with pretty common squeaky mouse wheels, but you can just lube the mouse wheel and it's all good
daring zenith
it's worth a try for sure if you can
original gpw? good shape, horrible double clicking
radiant belfry
The Superlight
daring zenith
gpw superlight, I don't have one, should be good, it's still a good shape for most grips
the price is just not that nice
daring zenith
:)
rigid valve
+1
radiant belfry
Aight noted
sly warren
I love my Model O Wired.
daring zenith
I mean
I love my Model O Wireless
Personally have had no issues
haven't seen many prevalent issues bar squeaky mouse wheel
sly warren
I've heard people having issues with the wireless functionality
But, it's been less than 20 people
daring zenith
what about it?
sly warren
It just... Stops
daring zenith
doa or
sly warren
It ceases to function wirelessly
daring zenith
weird
sly warren
Nope
daring zenith
huh
wonder if it's actually a common thing and I've just not seen it
thought I knew some mow owners
daring zenith
I got the impression of glorious qc being meh all around
Not bad not good kinda thing
maiden current
Yo how do i unlube a switch
hollow flower
Q tip
maiden current
Already tried that
hollow flower
And rubbing alcohol
maiden current
Havent tried that
hollow flower
That’s how I always did it
maiden current
Ill go do that
hollow flower
Q tip and rubbing alcohol worked wonders for all the stupid memes I did
hollow flower
Also how do the arias compare to the starfields
sly warren
Also how do the arias compare to the starfields
They Are effectively identical.
It's mostly which one you like the look of more.
I own Arias, mostly because A. They are cheaper and B. I like the black and gold look
rigid valve
Black and gold 
hollow flower
Are there any other good options in the price range?
hollow flower
Basically up to $150
I was thinking about a new pair of headphones but I realized my old earbuds I’ve been using are quite meh
And once school starts I’m going to want something that’s good and I can use on the bus
rigid valve
If you get moondrop everyone’s gonna look at you twice because they have the semi-custom design
And since it’s up to 150 and Arias are 80 it works since you can get another pair when this one inevitably gets lost
hollow flower
I haven’t lost a pair of earbuds since 2016
rigid valve
Ok
hollow flower
Not a huge deal
hollow flower
Ahh ok
wise ruin
Hey is this the right place to ask about a keyboard
rigid valve
Yes
wise ruin
Okay great
I was just looking for some suggestions for a keyboard that I could use for work and games
If possible one that can be wired and wireless
hollow flower
Budget and what type of switches
rigid valve
What’s your budget
wise ruin
about $100 or so
rigid valve
Keychron
wise ruin
I don't know
wise ruin
oh
hollow flower
One of the better budget brands
rigid valve
“Good” for a $80 keyboard that is
hollow flower
Are leopold/varmillo sub 100?
wise ruin
alright this one looks nice
what does gateron mean also
hollow flower
Brand of switches
wise ruin
ah
hollow flower
Blues are clicky, browns are tactile, reds are linear
rigid valve
Varmillo…
wise ruin
I really like the look of this one, got the professional look I was hoping for too
it's good for games too?
hollow flower
All keyboards are good for games
rigid valve
Most if not all keyboards are good for games
hollow flower
Personal preference really
rigid valve
👍
wanton burrow
It's nice hoe the lube made this chatter less
If that's called chatter
But def quieter
Still rattly tho
Cube lube + graphite powder def did a thing 
Let's see how long tipl i get prob an nj80 or q1
Or prob just b68 or rk84 idk
solar raft
Are pc38x worth it over pc37x?
And do I have to have a fulla or anything if I get them?
rigid valve
Are pc38x worth it over pc37x?
prolly
rigid valve
And do I *have* to have a fulla or anything if I get them?
no
solar raft
Forgive me but I’m not knowledgeable on the usage of a dac/amp exactly
What will it do?
Just give better sound quality?
rigid valve
pretty much
dac will clarify the sound and amp will help it push sound out at the strength it's supposed to
solar raft
Alright cool. Trying to decide, I can get pc38x for $115 or pc37x $80 so 
wanton burrow
Moondrop being alil too sussy
Yuki looks like how a painted moondrop iem would look like after "substantial amounts of usage"
Brb, gonna buy & chip aria's paintjob for inspiration
gritty kettle
not sure if it counts as peripherals but does anyone know if a gc controller adapter and controller would work with steam?
wanton burrow
Leenis weenis
sly warren
not sure if it counts as peripherals but does anyone know if a gc controller ada...
Uhhh... I think so? Not out of the box though.
hollow flower
@sly warren Do you have any opinions on 1more quad drivers? Just curious because I bought them like years ago and am wondering what other people think of them
sly warren
<@100710174137798656> Do you have any opinions on 1more quad drivers? Just curio...
1More is a pretty goobage headphone maker.
hollow flower
Sounds about right
calm cobalt
need cheap headset for my bro
something of okay quality, mainly for gaming and he'll use the mic
latent hull
Ksc75X and apple 3.5mm to usb c dongle
sly warren
something of okay quality, mainly for gaming and he'll use the mic
Like Dozenth said, KSC75X and an Apple USB-C to 3.5mm dongle. (If you don't have USB-C on the motherboard you can buy a USB-C to USB-A converter.)
calm cobalt
Like Dozenth said, KSC75X and an Apple USB-C to 3.5mm dongle. (If you don't have...
pc only has usb 1.0 and one 3.0
sly warren
Uhhh, how???
calm cobalt
does the ksc75x have a mic or is that what the apple dongle is for
sly warren
USB 1.0 is gone. Like, dead.
calm cobalt
oh
sly warren
Yes, it does have a mic. But you need the Dongle to use both at the same time and its a sound quality upgrade
latent hull
Just get the ksc75x with apple 3.5mm to usb c dongle then usb c to usb a adapter to plug it into the motherboard
calm cobalt
alright thanks
sly warren
will a 3.5mm splitter work?
I mean, it would. But it'll sound worse.
Motherboard audio blows.
calm cobalt
yeah
calm cobalt
you have recommendations on dac and amps?
sly warren
For dirt cheap, an Apple Dongle will do just fine.
Your first real DAC and Amp setup will set you back around 200 bucks.
calm cobalt
i have shp9500 I'm thinking of buying a dac amp combo or combined
sly warren
Ok
First
You should buy new headphones.
Because those are hot tinny treble death trash.
calm cobalt
well it's my first pair of decent headphones
sly warren
Not really.
calm cobalt
what would you recommend upgrading
sly warren
KSC75
Seriously, for 25 bucks, KSC75 is an upgrade from... a lot of headphones.
Including SHP9500's
calm cobalt
dt770 pros?
calm cobalt
oh
sly warren
@latent hull Tell this man why you should buy KSC75 after I told you to buy it.
If you have a little more money, you could also buy AKG K361's, but, they aren't that much of an upgrade.
calm cobalt
what else should i consider?
sly warren
Your first REAL upgrade after KSC75 is arguably Sennheiser HD560S
And those are around 2 Hungey Bucks
calm cobalt
yeah sure maybe in a few years
sly warren
This is why I recommend KSC75's
They are dirt cheap, don't need a lot to drive, and they kick the butt of every gaming Headset short of the opulently overpriced Audeze LCD-GX
Oh, and they kick the butt of a large majority of more expensive headphones.
Seriously, I own much more expensive headphones, and I still use my KSC75 because they are just that good.
shell shuttle
Ye
calm cobalt
my current peripherals are good for what I'm using em for so I'm not really planning to buy anything for now
sly warren
Just buy KSC75 and try it. If you somehow don't like it, you can return it for full refund on Amazon.
GG
And, if you DO like it, then you can sell your SHP9500's to some shmuck on Ebay
calm cobalt
what's the difference between the x version
calm cobalt
cool, I'm buying one for my lil brother but I'll try them for myself for a bit
any closed back headphones you recommend?
sly warren
AKG K361
hollow flower
Are they any other good options compared to the Moondrop Arias under $150?
sly warren
Tin T2 Plus
hollow flower
Not sure about your budget but i really enjoyed sennheiser HD600s
calm cobalt
eytch dee six hungooos
sly warren
HD560S is good, HD600's are ok, but a bit intimate for an Open Back.
AKG K612 for pure gaming performance.
calm cobalt
any cheaper options?
sly warren
KSC75
hollow flower
KSC75s are really nice
daring zenith
Ksc75x is actually worth trying over your average gaming headset, hell, it's cheap, you can just return them if you don't like them
radiant hearth
would open back or closed back be better for gaming?
calm cobalt
what then upgrading from the ksc75's?
daring zenith
would open back or closed back be better for gaming?
All depends on you really
sly warren
would open back or closed back be better for gaming?
Open Back typically is better for gaming.
sly warren
what then upgrading from the ksc75's?
HD560S or AKG K612
hollow flower
would open back or closed back be better for gaming?
Do you want to hear everything around you, and sound from your game leaking?
sly warren
Do you want to hear everything around you, and sound from your game leaking?
And everything around you in-game
daring zenith
Some would say open back have better depth, some would say closed back makes it easier to hear footsteps
radiant hearth
oh alright
hollow flower
That too but the biggest turn off for people is hearing the environment around you
daring zenith
Open backs are, well, open, so some sound leak through
radiant hearth
i think i'll stick with closed backs for now. i'll maybe experiment in the future
calm cobalt
HD560S or AKG K612
what dac amp combo then?
daring zenith
Depends on budget
calm cobalt
is $200 good enough?
daring zenith
From Meizu dong at around 40$ to Schiit fulla/Zen dac at 100-140$, and a Schiit stack at 200$+
sly warren
what dac amp combo then?
Both of those can just run off an Apple Dongle fine
You don't need a DAC and Amp
calm cobalt
damn really
hollow flower
How do moondrop arias compare to the tin t2 plus?
hollow flower
slam?
calm cobalt
schiit fulla has mic support iirc so might go with that but tbh apple dongle will be enough for me
sly warren
schiit fulla has mic support iirc so might go with that but tbh apple dongle wil...
You don't want to go with a Fulla
The Mic support is mostly just tacked on.
You'd spend less money just buying a Samson Q2U and going on about your day.
daring zenith
Pretty sure you won't need a fulla for a ksc75x mic input
sly warren
No, you won't.
daring zenith
But fulla is a pretty decent dac/amp on its own
sly warren
KSC75X + Apple Dongle is a cheap gamer's dream
daring zenith
Yea
sly warren
You can soundwhore with KSC75 very easily.
daring zenith
Fulla and up are more for bigger bois
calm cobalt
so hd560s and apple dongle then I'm good?
calm cobalt
yeah I'll be getting those
daring zenith
Would personally go better dac/amp for hd560s
But Meizu/apple dong can probably drive it decently
calm cobalt
hd560s would just be like, an endgame if i ever have the money if i want one
sly warren
Lol, that's nowhere near endgame
calm cobalt
i know
hollow flower
Endgame for me is a pair of HD800s
sly warren
I'm sorry.
daring zenith
He 1 is true endgame you can't change my mind
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/sennheiser-he-1
hollow flower
I loved them when i borrowed them
sly warren
But for average humans, R70X or HD800 is a realistic endgame
daring zenith
Though I feel like emu teak might also be endgame range
sly warren
If you really like Bass Slam
hollow flower
I remember talking with some guy who thought Dt770 pros were endgame
daring zenith
Yea, for the bass bois
sly warren
I remember talking with some guy who thought Dt770 pros were endgame
That poor soul
atomic oyster
Sup
calm cobalt
got told all my audio stuff is hot garbage
sly warren
But, I told you how to improve for cheaper than what you paid for originally!
atomic oyster
got told all my audio stuff is hot garbage <:peepoSadSip:641081095479361536>
damn its lit
im cool with stock stuff
keeb is the only thing i'm playing around with right now
I want to mod this gk61 ripoff for a bit and then maybe get that keychron q1
calm cobalt
same here, just waiting for it to arrive, then I'll be planning on upgrading my pc
atomic oyster
What are you using now for pc?
calm cobalt
fans and case for now, move out around January, there i will be making my room to look like what i have in mind
going to balance school and gaming which is soon, life's been kinda tough lately
atomic oyster
college?
calm cobalt
What are you using now for pc?
1050ti with a r5 2400g lol
atomic oyster
all good
calm cobalt
nah, just 10th grade
atomic oyster
you're moving out on your own?
is that even possible
or do you mean your family is moving houses
calm cobalt
but i am readying myself for a branch like STEM or ABM
atomic oyster
1050ti with a r5 2400g lol
i had something similar before
calm cobalt
or do you mean your family is moving houses
yeah my first time moving out was December last year then around January we'll be moving again
atomic oyster
ah, i see
calm cobalt
i have some pictures of what i want my room to look
atomic oyster
hope the move goes good and you get your dream room with that school gaming balance
atomic oyster
i have some pictures of what i want my room to look
show
calm cobalt
yeah lol
I'm surprised i got a 96 on my general average
hopefully i do better or same when school starts again
atomic oyster
nice cad render
calm cobalt
the room is pretty small so i had to manage
atomic oyster
looks very modern
calm cobalt
i think it looks fine but i might change it up a bit if i can't get the right furniture and stuff
atomic oyster
looks like ikea
calm cobalt
yeah but we don't have ikea here, no idea if they can ship it here either
calm cobalt
heh, thanks!
sly warren
Who the hell DOESNT have an Ikea?
calm cobalt
@sly warren you have any experience with equalizer APO?
sly warren
It's worthless, don't use it.
Just let the headphones do their own thing.
It does what it says on the tin, but... Most headphones don't benefit from EQ'ing
calm cobalt
okay cool
radiant hearth
alright so back to headphones, i'm looking for something better than my current(arctis pro with gamedac). i really like the audio quality on this headset, its just that the build quality is crap. i'm kind of looking for something thats good for gaming and also music/studio stuff cause i might get back into producing. is there something thats good for both gaming and studio use? if not then gaming and music listening is mainly what i'm going for. not studio monitors or anything
also i dont think i really need a DAC, i just want good out of the box performance. and maybe later on i could tweak with the settings
digital ether
rigid valve
alright so back to headphones, i'm looking for something better than my current(...
Budget?
radiant hearth
maybe 200 max?
radiant hearth
i want something with the most bang for the buck
radiant hearth
mmm, maybe closed back
rigid valve
Ok
AKG K371 is default
Balanced enough for producing but has some variation to make music and gaming not super boring
150 USD
sly warren
Do you explicitly NEED closedback? If you have a low noise amount in your room, you can really improve the quality of your audio by moving to an Open Backed pair of headphones.
wanton burrow
@calm cobalt nice render right there
radiant hearth
Do you explicitly NEED closedback? If you have a low noise amount in your room, ...
well, i'm open to all suggestions. i'm not really looking explicitly closeback or openback, and maybe i should try both to see what works best with my setup. i'm mainly looking for something thats good in quality and will last
i've only tried closeback headphones and an openback might be a good option
west hornet
Apparently the hd6xx are 25usd off on drop rn
floral lake
openback doesn't isolate you from outside noises at all
soundstage might be wide but that's the con to it
and people around you, if there's any could hear it too
sly warren
i've only tried closeback headphones and an openback might be a good option
If you want to do a "trial run" of what the experience of Openbacks feel like, you can buy Koss KSC75's for around 25 bucks on Amazon. They are an excellent headphone in their own regard, and have a really high quality of sound and are excellent cheap headphones to game with due to their excellent soundstaging and imaging for their price, even beating out many Gaming Headsets that cost a LOT of money.
queen sigil
ok ima say something
most people dont want ksc75 purely on looks
reguardless of "you wont see it on ur head" or "the audio quality is better"
main halo
Is the g304 good?
ivory fable
Is the g304 good?
G304 is just a regional g305 btw so yeah it's pretty good
main halo
G304 is just a regional g305 btw so yeah it's pretty good
Can you recommend a mouse that has a similar shape to the model o?
sly warren
The Model O
Like, why wouldn't you just... buy a Model O if you want the shape of the Model O?
eager burrow
Cuz it might break in delivery...? Its known to break quite easily
daring zenith
What
What part of it breaks easily
I don't think I've heard much if at all about the mouse physically just breaking
@eager burrow any sources?
foggy stream
its just full of holes so it can snap way easier than a solid piece
daring zenith
What
daring zenith
I'd argue it's actually more resilient to shock because of the honeycomb, for example, when I drop mine, it will bounce slightly.
It's definitely not weak and flimsy
I can throw it at the ground without it breaking, can't say the same thing to say a gpw
foggy stream
I mean I dont usually drop my mouse so I guess I havent tested it lol
daring zenith
Unless you take a hammer to it, I don't think it'll break easily, and well, if you take a hammer to it, most mice will break
I have a mow so more chance of it just dropping
foggy stream
idk what material glorious uses in their mice
daring zenith
It's just plastic
daring zenith
By texture, if it was between the two, I'd say abs, but it's probably something else
sly warren
Cuz it might break in delivery...? Its known to break quite easily
No it isn't? The Hexagonal structure of the mouse is actually a benefit...
sly warren
foggy stream
which GMMK
sly warren
All of them.
daring zenith
Gmmk pro is decent, normal gmmk all sizes are meh at best
foggy stream
I was looking at the GMMK pro
sly warren
It's still mediocre.
foggy stream
for the price I can't find anything remotely the same
sly warren
There's better options for cheaper.
sly warren
Pick your flavor of Keychron
foggy stream
hmmmm that's a heavy debate
sly warren
The only thing unique the GMMK Pro has is... the dial
daring zenith
Rotary KNOB
ivory fable
Cuz it might break in delivery...? Its known to break quite easily
Just some models creek a bit afaik
foggy stream
the software and remapping on the keychron are weak, and it's really tall
sly warren
You can just go buy a rotary knob and add it on.
Who cares about remapping? Just... use the keyboard as a keyboard...
daring zenith
Side note, dropped my mow from around my head level for science, still works, might send video later.
foggy stream
I want a 65% with a delete key
sly warren
Why 65%?
foggy stream
I use it for coding and gaming
sly warren
Just go up to 80% and it's... basically the same amount of horizontal size.
foggy stream
its a difference of like 3-4inches usually
I have to move my keyboard to type and use my mouse easily
sly warren
https://iqunix.store/collections/iqunix-mechanical-keyboards/products/iqunix-l80-formula-typing-wireless-mechanical-keyboard This is my personal board, it's better than a Keychron, and GMMK Pro
Sounds like you need a bigger Desk
foggy stream
how does that fix my arms lmao
foggy stream
my board has a num pad
sly warren
And?
If you chop it down to an 80% or even TKL you lose the numpad
Which is good, because for like 90% of people it's not all that useful.
foggy stream
I feel like I would need to draw something to make it make sense, just trust me it does lmao
sly warren
It really doesn't.
sly warren
Unless your desk is the size of a TV Tray Table, then you can just... move your right hand off the mouse and... put it on the keyboard.
It's what every normal person does.
If you're not a fan of Red, White and Grey the L80 also comes in Brown-ish, and Green-ish.
And then there's the A80 which is nearly identical to the L80, except it's got a different colorway and a slightly different chassis.
foggy stream
ohhh I see where you may be confused
I use a low DPI and have 2 monitors, so while dragging my mouse can hit the board
foggy stream
and I wanted to hear about decent keyboards
sly warren
My guess is you have a microscopic table/mousepad.
foggy stream
dude just let it go
sly warren
I'm trying to fix your problem.
You shouldn't be hitting your keyboard's side unless you have some really tiny desk, or really tiny mousepad.
Anyways.
Your realistic options for a new KB are.
Keychron
Iqunix L80/A80
Some Leopold/Varmilo board
Oh, and Completely Custom
foggy stream
I was debating on complete custom for fun
I already do electronics so it should be easy
I was looking at the GMMK pro chasis cause I wanted aluminum, so I was looking for comparable aluminum boards with the same features
sly warren
Honestly, metal chassis are overrated.
foggy stream
I was gonna CNC it with stuff
it would look really cool with a brush effect and custom engravings
daring zenith
chassis is just for looks (other than mount)
the plate can be important for the sound
radiant hearth
If you want to do a "trial run" of what the experience of Openbacks feel like, y...
alright i'll try those out sometime soon, thanks!
foggy stream
I was gonna play with plates too
sly warren
No problem! I always am glad when someone tries out a pair of KSC75's.
foggy stream
chassis is just for looks (other than mount)
I was a little worried about the wear and tear on a plastic housing with taking the screws in and out
I want to buy something that I can use basically forever
daring zenith
I mean, if you have to unscrew it that often, something is wrong
sly warren
If you just use threaded inserts.
You'll have the light-weight of Plastic + Strength of Metal.
GG
foggy stream
are those easy to install? or do they come in some boards?
sly warren
Threaded inserts? Umm... IDK. Typically they are used in 3D Printed projects that need threads. You use a Soldering Iron to melt them into plastic.
foggy stream
I'll keep it in mind
daring zenith
400 DPI, and I still don't hit my keyboard.
as a side note, I use a tkl board and usually around 600dpi, and I often hit my keyboard, it's just all about how you play with where you put your mouse
foggy stream
im also not talking about gaming with my issues
my issues come from working on it for long times, the ergonomics are all wack
daring zenith
it's all about where you put your hand and your mouse really
foggy stream
yeah that's what im saying lol
daring zenith
(wouldn't matter too much with the keeb)
foggy stream
tbh I also want the aluminum for the looks, I think it looks way better
and if it's roughly the same price I might as well get aluminum
if someone can suggest me a another hotswap board with good software in an aluminum body besides the GMMK pro then I'll be set lol
foggy stream
I saw that one but it seems hard to get one
daring zenith
thought it was still on preorder
foggy stream
yeah that's what I thought
I kinda want to build it in the next few weeks while I have time
daring zenith
with peripherals, not uncommon to wait months tbh
sly warren
The Q1 needs some modding to fix the problems it has.
daring zenith
gmk keycaps for example
foggy stream
yeah I am learning that
sly warren
GMK Keycaps are stupid.
daring zenith
The Q1 needs some modding to fix the problems it has.
still need more reviews to see if it was really an issue tho
sly warren
Just plain stupid.
daring zenith
more foam might've fixed it from sounding so hollow
foggy stream
that's why I'm leaning more towards a commercially available board
sly warren
I'd rather buy Clone sets than actual GMK
Because GMK sets cost your whole human body just to afford them.
foggy stream
wow I just looked them up that's wild
daring zenith
gmk keycaps are cool tho :p
foggy stream
I was gonna get like $25-30 ones lmao
daring zenith
that's why I'm leaning more towards a commercially available board
most boards go for groupbuys, and that's where you get those month long waits
sly warren
I was lusting after GMK Metaverse, but it's like 5 grand now.
daring zenith
from like interest check onwards
foggy stream
that's wild
daring zenith
most gmk sets start at like 150$
but they don't usually go for re-runs
sooo
demand goes up, so does price
sly warren
Yeah, honestly if GMK just kept cranking out sets... the price would go down.
foggy stream
its the supreme game, just make it popular then limit supply
daring zenith
but gmk is already trying the best they can with making sets
daring zenith
p sure it's like backed up for at least a year
foggy stream
do people really like keycaps that much lol
sly warren
but gmk is already trying the best they can with making sets
You'd think with the hundreds of thousands of dollars they make, they could keep re-running the most popular sets while using that money to invest in more production plants, and then slowly trickle out more new sets. Like, slow down to like, 4 new sets per year (1 per season) and then re-run the most popular sets all throughout the year.
foggy stream
yeah I knew pbt was better than abs but I didn't know it got more granular than that
sly warren
Since it does cost a lot for moulds, they should be making more re-runs than new sets.
Just to keep an income flowing
daring zenith
But the whole point afaik is for unique sets
foggy stream
it's an exclusivity thing I see
daring zenith
the whole point for gmk over just like buying some hkgaming kits
foggy stream
cause it loses the cool factor if everyone can get them
sly warren
Yes, but it would be MORE profitable to re-run older sets that have a LOT of popularity and use that profit to make NEW sets.
daring zenith
Yes, but I'm saying they might not be so profit-focused
rather, making new unique sets
sly warren
cause it loses the cool factor if everyone can get them
But by the time the sets gain popularity, GMK isn't making ANY money due to... all of the sets being in the wild.
sly warren
Yes, but I'm saying they might not be so profit-focused
In this case, I'd honestly prefer them to be profit focused since it would increase the amount of older, already good looking sets on the market at full GMK quality.
If I COULD buy a GMK Metaverse set for MSRP from GMK, I would gladly do it.
daring zenith
The reason why I don't want them to be profit focused is because of their full GMK quality
sly warren
But... It can be the literal exact same quality.
The moulds for older sets already exist.
daring zenith
If the mission of the company is changed, it will suffer
sly warren
They just have to make more of the sets.
daring zenith
p sure they already have some slight issues with manufacturing defects
foggy stream
yeah I was thinking that too Mr1111
daring zenith
there was a gmk set nachos sent a while back, with quite a few people just complaining about the finish on the bottom of the keycaps
foggy stream
if art was reduced to just having a painting that looks the same, it would be worth nothing
whether you value having the same thing or having the authentic product is up to you ig
I feel like if you're willing to drop $100+ on just keycaps you probably want something legit
sly warren
I mean, you can value both in this case.
It's just that GMK refuses to re-make old sets they already have the moulds for.
80% of the cost of a Keycap Set is in the exorbitant prices for quality Injection Moulds.
It's like, 10 to 20 grand for a good mould, if not more.
foggy stream
are the keys different or are the colors different?
sly warren
But, if you keep making the same thing with the same mould, you can keep effectively printing more money for your company.
Yes.
GMK has to make a new mould for every set.
Because A. Color change and B. Pattern change on some keys
foggy stream
gotcha
okay well this has left the scope of my project lol
I'm gonna keep looking I guess, the L80 looks alright and it comes with everything for the price of the GMMK pro
sly warren
And it comes with a 2.4ghz Wireless connection!
It has 3 connection flavors.
Bluetooth, 2.4ghz Wireless, and Wired
foggy stream
Yeah I mean I'm gonna keep my wireless board
so if I need the wireless I can just swap back, but for now I can settle for wired only too
the options are nice to have tho
daring zenith
2.4ghz can be good
sly warren
https://i.imgur.com/4h5O5iB.jpg Here's GMK Metaverse.
And here's another set https://preview.redd.it/zzg5rzuhszg11.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=80dbed2d55ad74b969ed69e79073eabac694e8a1
Both of them used different moulds.
To get the different legends
foggy stream
yeah I mean I game on a logitech G613 so wireless works for me lol
those are pretty nice, a little too loud for my setup tho lol
sly warren
Metaverse would look so good on my L80
foggy stream
that's crazy expensive tho lmao
foggy stream
Im just gonna get some cheaper PBTs of a single color so I should be good
daring zenith
I like how monkeytype tells you how badly you messed up each word
daring zenith
there are only 2 scp quotes in monkeytype and I got one of them, fun
tight pulsar
They are stupid expensive.
it's because it can't ever run again and weebs pay too much for stuff so they set the market price high
tight pulsar
chassis is just for looks (other than mount)
this is also very wrong
rigid valve
it's because it can't ever run again and weebs pay too much for stuff so they se...
lmao
tight pulsar
You'd think with the hundreds of thousands of dollars they make, they could keep...
why would they do this. all the groupbuys are basically loans without interest and they make much more money from running several groupbuys a week compared to a few sets (look at the popular "instock sets" like mito stuff and see how they don't sell that much)
tight pulsar
Chassis like material?
yeah
tight pulsar
lmao
i'm being serious look at the prices on darling, mizu, etc those are the only reasons why they're so much vs other sets
rigid valve
Not just those sets are stupid expensive though
I think it’s also the designer a little
Some keycap designers people will probably be more willing to dump money for
And some colors are just nice/cool theme
tight pulsar
most gmk sets that i personally like are all sub 250 aftermarket, but that's also because i have a simpler taste for keycaps and they usually have a ton of sets such as wob/beige
even modoL is only selling for 200ish now
rigid valve
Did you sacrifice mod assist to FalCie lmao
daring zenith
this is also very wrong
plz gib me info
afaik only thing chassis really matters for is mount
tight pulsar
i’m about to eat dinner but i’ll have a write up in a bit
foggy stream
im also still lurkin on this info lol
native bloom
Hi guys, I recently bought the Logitech pro x superlight and I already have plugged-in the 915 tkl, I was wondering If I actually needed to use the pro x dongle or I could use the tkl dongle for both peripherals
native bloom
Ok thank you
foggy stream
yeah use the dongle that came with the mouse, I have the same thing with a g703 and g613
there's no unifying receiver for the pro stuff for some reason, maybe a latency thing
sly warren
there's no unifying receiver for the pro stuff for some reason, maybe a latency ...
I'm like 98% sure it's a latency thing.
tight pulsar
plz gib me info
- material - different materials=different stiffness, density changes how high or lower pitched it is and stiff just affects the feel, look at how plate materials affect sound and that should be similar to how case material would impact the board (plate would most likely be much more drastic however)
- how thick/thin the case is - thinner case (case walls, bottom) will increase reverb normally and higher pitched, and vice versa for thicker. if it's too thick, it might add too much density
- empty space in case - usually talking about under the pcb, the more space the more reverb and hollowness, and vice versa. can also limit flex by having the pcb touch the bottom of the case if there's not enough room and the pcb can flex a large amount
- weight vs no weight - weight reduce the pitch of the board and reverb, material doesn't really change the effect much when looking at brass/ss/copper
- quality - pretty self explanatory
daring zenith
Much thank
wanton burrow
Ngl my cracked deezer (just doable for offline listening, still 128kbps mp3) sound kinda better than my flacs
Well it's not the proper flacs so i guess that explains it
foggy stream
I'm like 98% sure it's a latency thing.
I would believe that
foggy stream
1. material - different materials=different stiffness, density changes how high ...
thanks for the info
wanton burrow
Tl;dr: anything could change how a keyboard sound, which is why sound test is not a good measurement for hypothetical keyboard sounds
Sound signature still exists tho so there's also that
Also, gmk being sucky suck i can agree, but blaming gmk for their aftermarket pricing is not a good point. Perhaps their 1y waiting time and novelty manuing demands
rigid valve
Also, gmk being sucky suck i can agree, but blaming gmk for their aftermarket pr...
THIS
tight pulsar
for the price i'm really liking this set as a softer red alert, and the base+accent for 120 is really nice. i've heard good things about new epbt molds so hopefully it turns out nice and the windowed caps is really exciting to see https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114403.msg3078582#msg3078582
wish i had the money for it but have a bunch of other stuff to buy and q4 2022 isn't that fun
rigid valve
Hangul subs 
rigid valve
Facts
wanton burrow
Time for hiragana alphas with latin & katakana subs to be found
rigid valve
As a proud KoreanNotEboy ™️ I support Hangul subs
wanton burrow
that gmk katakana bow somewhere in geekhack looks too simple
....and bright
What
U korean?
rigid valve
Always have been
wanton burrow
Lol
rigid valve
Lowkey tempted to ask my family on the peninsula to ship me Geonworks GBs 🤔
wanton burrow
Kek
I gotta go there
And learn how to actually make a korean board
But laser-cut acrylic prices here seems to be nice alr so....
tight pulsar
And learn how to actually make a korean board
step 1. look at an otd board
step 2. copy it
wanton burrow
Thanks
I'm thinking about making a stacked acrylic f13 wkl tkl that prob has interchangeable config (plate sammich mount & pcb sammich mount)
rigid valve
why no fkl love
wanton burrow
Doesn't really make sense for a gb board, but at least in my case, getting the case done first and using pcb from somewhere (or just having good pcb compatibilities) while making the custom pcb seems nice
Like, 2 layer that's interchangeable with each other
wanton burrow
Like, 2 layer that's interchangeable with each other
Instead of conversion kit
Then the another custom plate for the custom pcb to just be plateless & w plate without needing to change the mounting style (like a 7v or jelly epoch kind of plate)
tight pulsar
i’ve been kind of interested in getting an idb60+4 mount 60 designed, plateless sounds fun to mess around with
wanton burrow
Well i should also plan how to get funds for having my own custom board lol
Ooooooo
tight pulsar
also i have a friend doing something similar to you but smaller, got the pcbs in finally
tight pulsar
bottom, those are drone grommets that the pcb mounts slide into
wanton burrow
Interesting
tight pulsar
the only other mx board i’d be interested in buying would probably be something similar to that but shorter, really love the x60, if it had plateless too it would be killer for me
plateless makes it really hard to get lower front height which is sad
rigid valve
what kind of experience should i have before trying to design a keyboard
steep pelican
3d modeling experience
wanton burrow
Cad exp
steep pelican
prototype funds
tight pulsar
experience with more than 1 keyboard
tight pulsar
nah just use plain60 or hiney pcb for easy pcb sourcing if it’s 60 or tkl
queen sigil
why build keyboard when u can buy one ez
wanton burrow
My plan is to have the kibord exp with this one im planning to do, unless i found a board that i'm interested in
steep pelican
im still waiting for keeb to buy
wanton burrow
Coz acrylic laser cutting here seems to have nice price
tight pulsar
also you have to realize it’s going to probably really bad for your first one, even people that know what they’re doing and boards that people really like have flaws (zekkin wrote a good doc about issues he has with ogre when people thought it was great)
steep pelican
i have tried
queen sigil
learn to settle
wanton burrow
Money, patience, and sanity imo is the three main needs in survivijg in this hobby
steep pelican
I only have money of those 3
wanton burrow
Lol
wanton burrow
also you have to realize it’s going to probably really bad for your first one, e...
Yes i do expect that. Even so, it should still be a stepping stone towards a better one
steep pelican
im hoping and praying scarlet extras are sold soon
tight pulsar
for sure
wanton burrow
Still gonna buy other boards of different form factors & mounting style to learn more about it
queen sigil
im probs gonna get alot more things before more keyboard
wanton burrow
And prob lurk on designing servers to peek and take down notes :pepega:
tight pulsar
also if you don't want to spend a lot for prototyping you can have a company 3d print it with an industrial machine, his 60 with the plateless pcb was 95 shipped for the case
queen sigil
another monitor, better audio, better mic,
better mic arm better monitor arm
better mouse
wanton burrow
The ones i am currently looking at is a cast acrylic laser cutting service. They seem to make good service for cheap
...unless i could find better deals out in the wild, but that's a harder guess considering i'm a minor that still can't get out of the house lol
Also, nachos thabks for the infos, would take those as notes :)
queen sigil
nuke clear nach toes
ionic fractal
Buy them from AliExpress, you can get a lot of them for 1/3 of the price from anywhere else
wanton burrow
i'd like to try all the different profile of keycaps too
SA Polyclear
DSS Carpinteria extras
DCS Blue Moon
MW PBT Commute
sudden gyro
can you guys suggest me some budget controller for xbox/pc
hexed solstice
an xbox controller
sly warren
can you guys suggest me some budget controller for xbox/pc
An... Xbox controller...
Like what?
sudden gyro
like a 3rd party
to use with a pc
it shouldn't have to be a xbox
but a good controller
on budget segment
hexed solstice
3rd party is more expensive
sly warren
Budget and Controllers don't mix.
hexed solstice
and not always better than the original
sly warren
Your best option is buying a used Xbox One controller, like an official one.
hexed solstice
so just buy the xbox branded one
ionic fractal
As long as it works, I go for the Xbox branded ones since I take advantage of the bluetooth capabilities
hexed solstice
also has the best compatibility with windows machines
foggy stream
yeah I just use an Xbox one controller with the wireless adapter
the bluetooth can be problematic actually
foggy stream
why build keyboard when u can buy one ez
its fun
daring zenith
Expensive
atomic oyster
Why fart when you can poop
shadow bane
Asking the real questions
foggy stream
i never thought of it that way
ionic fractal
Why fart when you can poop
Or...you can fart while pooping..
atomic oyster
I’m glad we’re all on the same page
ionic fractal
poop while farting
Mind blown...
ionic fractal
I’m glad we’re all on the same page
me too, lol
hushed root
the heck
split nimbus
Hi
stray lynx
hey guys on my corsair strafe mk2 my ALT key no longer lights up
but still functions fine
and my page up key is only flashing red when the rest of the keyboard is rainbow
do i talk to corsair or do i need to update something
please ping me with the answer
hushed root
rigid valve
stray lynx
im going to try resetting my keyboard
daring zenith
Corsair things
mellow kiln
I am looking to buy a computer chair between 100 - 180$ CAD. I want to know your recommendations. I do not have an ikea nearby so its a no for the ikea markus.
gritty kettle
should i get corsair void elite rgb wireless?
gritty kettle
what does that mean?
rigid valve
Openbacks have a mesh type material for part of the back of the earcup. It allows (usually) for better soundstage and imaging (basically positional audio) but leaks noise into your surrounding and you hear others more.
Closed back is full solid back and gives you (usually) more bass but worse soundstage and imaging. Does not leak
rigid valve
Throw those Corsair headphones in the trash
Imma try and help you get something good
gritty kettle
but i like them
rigid valve
Oh you have them
gritty kettle
i went to a friend's house and they wree epic
gritty kettle
I thought you were looking for purchase advice
i was
gritty kettle
atm i am using single apple earphone because the other one got mangled by dog
rigid valve
Rip
west hornet
Go to a store a try out some. Many stores have something like sony xm4’s you can use as base even though they aren’t really what you are looking for
gritty kettle
what is an xm4
gritty kettle
Go to a store a try out some. Many stores have something like sony xm4’s you can...
i have tried out the corsair ones, one of my friends have them
queen sigil
headphones
sly warren
whats wrong with the corsair ones?
There's a lot of things wrong with most Gaming Headsets.
Gaming Headsets Bad Because
- Poor Stereo Imaging which leads to inaccurate positional audio in games
- Poor Soundstaging, additional inaccuracy in positional audio
- Bad driver tuning which tends to put emphasis on Bass which isn't good for gaming except for immersion.
- USB Dongles that implement crappy 7.1 Surround that does not help with audio accuracy in games.
For a mere 25 USD you can get the Koss KSC75X which basically slay any Gaming Headset.
And if you want "actual headphones" then you could get AKG K361's and then buy a separate microphone.
rigid kayak
i need help bc i messed up
sly warren
Messed up how?
rigid kayak
i have 125 to spend on a new keyboard, mtn dew got spilled on mine
daring zenith
Ksc75x+Meizu dong time
rigid kayak
i want brown switches
daring zenith
125$ for a new keeb eh
rigid kayak
and full size
daring zenith
Prob just do keychron c2 hotswap with browns
rigid valve
some people like browns
daring zenith
Tactile is good
sly warren
Can you say Browns are tactile with a straight face?
rigid valve
skiptrace how much keeb experience do you actually have
browns are not the crap that everyone says they are
ITS A MEME
rigid kayak
i use my num pad for key binds and i need something that my team mates wont want to kill me for having
sly warren
When I used browns, they just felt like mediocre Reds.
rigid valve
'twas a meme invented chiefly by the og tactile gang then propagated by Glarses to the wider audiences
which caused this massive anti-brown stigma in the community
and led to an overwhelming bias
rigid kayak
look idc whats your opinion on the switch is i need a decent board with them in it
rigid kayak
yee
sly warren
Keychron
rigid valve
if you can go higher budget get Leopold
rigid kayak
link?
sly warren
Keychron is like, the default recommendation.
daring zenith
Yes
rigid valve
if you can go higher budget get Leopold
*assuming you dont wanna mess with it too much
like swap the switches lube etc
daring zenith
Actually that's not the hotswap version
Hm
I don't like how they're laid out on Amazon
But keychron directly is out of stock
sly warren
I mean, you might.
What if you get tired of browns?
Or a key fails.
Gotta think a little outside the box.
Cover all of your bases.
rigid kayak
imma get what i can get
sly warren
I mean, a Keychron is like, way under budget for you already.
rigid kayak
im not sitting and waiting on backorders and oos
rigid kayak
he said they oos
sly warren
Just wait then.
There's legit not a better board without either paying exorbitant costs, or going custom.
neon quartzBOT
DRIFT615#8507 has been warned
rigid kayak
my board is screwed
sly warren
Have you tried... washing it out?
rigid kayak
yes
sly warren
And letting it dry?
Isypropyl alcohol bath?
That usually fixes RiP electronics pretty good.
rigid kayak
backspace litteraly takes over sometimes
sly warren
Ok... Have you tried to disassemble the board?
rigid kayak
yes
sly warren
So you can actually get at the damaged part?
sly warren
I mean, you can always buy a cheap-o membrane board while you wait for the Keychron to come in stock.
rigid kayak
but keybinds
sly warren
Keybinds aren't stored on the keyboard?
I'm confused.
Do you re-program the physical keys themselves?
rigid kayak
no but ive had issues in the past where i cant do more than 2 keys at a time and any more the board just wont register
wanton burrow
Keybinds, like macros, eh?
rigid valve
@rigid kayak what board do you have
rigid kayak
a havit gaming keyboard
rigid kayak
thats what i said
sly warren
125 is his budget.
rigid kayak
but i want to switch to browna
sly warren
So, he's in a weird spot
sly warren
And he doesn't want to wait for a Keychron to come in stock
Because... He needs 100%?
Which boggles my mind a little.
rigid kayak
bc my board effed
rigid valve
bc my board effed
could you use 96%
its 100% without the navigation keys
has the numpad
rigid kayak
and im not spending more money to later replace it again,
rigid valve
and im not spending more money to later replace it again,
does 96% work for you
wanton burrow
If he wants >$100 board, i think leopold fc980m is highly considerable
sly warren
If he wants >$100 board, i think leopold fc980m is highly considerable
I mean, hotswap doe
rigid valve
If he wants >$100 board, i think leopold fc980m is highly considerable
thats true as well
wanton burrow
Is it a need?
rigid valve
I mean, hotswap doe
leopold build quality
he wont have a problem with the switches
i can
guarantee
sly warren
Is it a need?
I think it should be illegal to make a board WITHOUT hotswap IMO
rigid valve
nah
rigid kayak
see this is a hobby my primary hobby is cars and my miata twists my balls for more mods lol
rigid valve
hotswap has its drawbacks
wanton burrow
Funny
rigid valve
everyone like "hotswap hotswap hotswap"
but there are some aspects of hotswap which are less appreciated
wanton burrow
Kaiph hotswap is inferior to millmaxes
rigid kayak
i just dont need it\
wanton burrow
Both has its own pros and cons still
sly warren
see this is a hobby my primary hobby is cars and my miata twists my balls for mo...
Bruh, just do the be-all-end-all mod and drop 15 grand on an LS
That's like, peak Miata mod.
rigid valve
lmao