peripherals-and-displays

[daring zenith]

would get k371 still to be safe tbh

but that would be okay

[latent hull]

Yeah I think I will get that just what amp to get?

[timber ridge]

depends on ur budget

[latent hull]

200 and under but can go up to 250 if needed

[timber ridge]

do you have a dac

[daring zenith]

meizu/apple dong for the cheap end (<30$), schiit fulla or zen dac for 100-120$, schiit stack for 200+$

they said no to dac

[timber ridge]

stacks can get expensive p quick

pl dont consider shipping and cable prices

[daring zenith]

cables it comes with is ok

[timber ridge]

you have to buy rca cables

[daring zenith]

thought it came with rca cables

I know there's the interconnect thing you can buy if you want

[latent hull]

How long does it take for the schiit fulla to arrive? because on the website it says that it will ship in 12-16 weeks and that is a while from now

[slow hull]

damn that is rlly long

that's literally 3-4 months

[timber ridge]

do you need the mic input ?

[daring zenith]

oh yea

fulla do be on backorder for really long

lemme check zen dac o

[latent hull]

no I have a usb mic so no need for that

[timber ridge]

if you dont need the mic input then id go for a dif option

[daring zenith]

this is supposed to be like 130$ I think
https://www.amazon.com/iFi-Desktop-Digital-Converter-Outputs/dp/B091B2JCXQ/

[timber ridge]

thats a v2

wtf

since when lol

[rigid valve]

Wait there’s a v2

Wtf

[timber ridge]

https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-K5-AK4493EQ-Amplifier-Headphone/dp/B07WT7TYWY/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fiio+k5&qid=1627099881&s=electronics&sr=1-2

bit more neutral sounding compared to zen dac

and more powerful iirc

[latent hull]

Those both seem just a little too expensive for me. anything else? Or should I just save up a little bit to purchase one of those

[timber ridge]

stick with meizu dongle for a while

[latent hull]

ok. also how long is the k371 cable roughly?

[timber ridge]

it comes with 3 cables

dont remember length but one is short ish

one is long

other is coiled

[latent hull]

Ok, thanks I will probably purchase that stuff soon. Thanks for all your help!

[timber ridge]

np

enjoy ur new setup

[latent hull]

Will do!

[daring zenith]

didn't even notice lol

zen dac v2

hm

[timber ridge]

have yall see anyone with this case?

[gleaming pond]

not yet

When the tank has RGB wheels

[daring zenith]

lmao the name

[wanton burrow]

:stare:

[timber ridge]

so many things wrong with it

[wanton burrow]

"support E-ATX"
"motherboard compatiblity: Micro-ATX"

[thick tartan]

lmfao

[soft sandal]

hey im looking for a cheap gaming headset under $50, anybody have any recommendations

[daring zenith]

Koss gmr air for 60$ perhaps

[soft sandal]

nah budget

[soft sandal]

@here

[hollow flower]

HyperX cloud stingers are solid

[hollow flower]

I’ve been using this G305 for like 2 days now and I love it so far

[wet dirge]

Im looking for a small wireless keyboard that I could fit in my backpack next to my laptop. Anyone have any recommendations?

[steep pelican]

How small

[wet dirge]

like 10 keyless and no extra macro keys or anything.

[daring zenith]

and does it need to be slim?

smaller than tkl is easy but do you need low profile?

[steep pelican]

Tkl is not what I would call small lol

Keychron doesn’t make a case for their k12 do they?

[daring zenith]

I was thinking smth like k3 if they wanted slim, but I'm pretty sure you can probably just grab the case for k6 and use it for k12

[wet dirge]

It doesn't need to be slim

[daring zenith]

thicc keyboard time then

[latent hull]

How are the hd58x?

[daring zenith]

heck, you could just grab a k6 and get the k6 case xD

[steep pelican]

hmmm im not sure how well k12 would fit in k6 cause one is 60* and one is 65% but yeah i think just getting a k6 is good

[wet dirge]

do those come with a wireles receiver or are they bluetooth

[dreamy goblet]

is the AW310H from alienware worth it? or AW510H (i dont really know the difference if anyone can explain)

im looking for some budget wireless headphones btw

[steep pelican]

i believe bluetooth.

[dreamy goblet]

or does anyone have any budget wireless headphone suggestions

[daring zenith]

they're bluetooth

and wireless headphones are all kinda just sucky

[dreamy goblet]

which ones?

[dreamy goblet]

yea ik but i just dont like wires

but the AW310H is like 40 cad rn

which is like 30 usd

[wet dirge]

is the redragon k630 a good keyboard?

[rigid valve]

They’re all gonna be pretty damn bad

[rigid valve]

For how cheap it is, it’s fine

[dreamy goblet]

tru but i have a razer kraken x rn

so chances are, it will be aroud the same quality without the wires

[rigid valve]

The cheapest wireless I can safely recommend is Moondrop Sparks for $80-90

And for the love of god do not get Cowin E7s from Amazon

I have them and they SUCK

[dreamy goblet]

how the AW310H?

they seem to be nice

[rigid valve]

It’s so unknown that there’s no frequency response graph for them

I would stay away

[dreamy goblet]

they have 50mm drivers which from what i have seen, is pretty good

i dont really need high quality headphones since i can barely tell the difference

just smt that is pretty good and feels nice

not sure tho, what do you think?

and i seem to be getting mix responses on whether the AW310H is wireless or not

[rigid valve]

Driver size is generally not as important as tuning

[rigid valve]

Well then why are you asking what is good

[dreamy goblet]

ah ok sorry im not really that into headphones 😅

[dreamy goblet]

im asking to make sure they arent horrible

[rigid valve]

It’s not an uncommon understanding ik where you’re coming from

[dreamy goblet]

cause there are some mix reports online

so im really confused

some people say its amazing and the best pair they ever owned while othres say its trash

so idk what to think

[rigid valve]

I would

[dreamy goblet]

is this kinda thing normal in the headphone world?

[rigid valve]

Save up for Sparks

[dreamy goblet]

could you send the links?

[rigid valve]

$90 right now

https://www.amazon.com/Moondrop-Wireless-Bluetooth-Dynamic-Earphone/dp/B094NJ67H5?th=1

[dreamy goblet]

i heard that the xbox headset is pretty good, is that true?

they are ear buds?

[rigid valve]

From the audiophile’s perspective that is a hard no

[rigid valve]

Yeah

No mic though

[dreamy goblet]

mhm i kinda need mic

[rigid valve]

Get a mic then

Get like a Samson Go or a Q2U or a Fifine

[latent hull]

Hey @rigid valve how are the hd58x? I have heard good things about them

[dreamy goblet]

i think thats gonna be a bit over my budget but i will definitely consider to save up and get a better pair

[rigid valve]

Will check some stuff

[dreamy goblet]

thanks for the help btw

[rigid valve]

Oh those are the Jubilee’s

[latent hull]

Yeah

[rigid valve]

They don’t look that bad
I might spring for DT880s instead and save some money but that’s all up to you

[latent hull]

If I go with those should I get the meizu dongle or save for like a e10k dac

[rigid valve]

Not unless you want one

[latent hull]

would the meizu dongle be sufficient for the hd58x?

or should I get something more powerful?

[timber ridge]

e10k not worth it

and hd58x is known for not being power demanding at all

p sure you can run it off internal audio jus fine but meizu dongle will help

[latent hull]

Ok thanks!

[wet dirge]

Anybody have some recommendations for fairly loud but also small computer speakers?

[sly warren]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C5RZWCQ/?coliid=IQRWIA2RQUDA1&colid=360P79NG2QFST&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it These little things are great and powerful. They just also come at a higher price tag than most people want to pay.

They even come with the side benefit of being usable as Bluetooth speakers.

[timber ridge]

arent promedia 2.1 good

[sly warren]

Yeah, but they also have a Sub. These are 2 Tweeters and 2 Subs all in those little 3" towers.

[timber ridge]

bruh, for some reason i thought he said fairly cheap

[sly warren]

Nah, he just said loud and small.

He said nothing about price.

[rigid valve]

Good speakers don’t come cheap

[timber ridge]

jus noticed, thats prob a better pick then

[sly warren]

And, these are Loud, Sound Good, and are VERY small for how good of a sound they output.

[wet dirge]

Those are a lot more than I was hoping to pay(I was thinking about 100-150 usd) since I probably wont use them very often. I dont need bluetooth and sound quality isnt very important to me.

[sly warren]

Why do you explicitly need speakers if you ain't gonna use them often?

[wet dirge]

I just need something for watching tv and movies when my cousins and friends come over

[sly warren]

So... just use the TV speakers built into the TV?

[wet dirge]

My monitor doesnt have any built in

[sly warren]

Sounds like you need a better monitor then.

Not a pair of speakers.

How big is said monitor? It might also be hard to gather around to watch things.

I'd just buy a cheap 4K TV

[hollow flower]

Yeah don’t get monitors if you need them to watch TV, just get a cheap TV

[wet dirge]

I got the monitor for gaming but I would like a speaker for watching tv if I want to. Also I don't really have enough space to put a tv anywhere in my room

[sly warren]

Mount it on the wall

GG

Gotta think outside the box.

[latent hull]

I think that I am going to get the hd58x and like the apple 3.5mm to usb c dongle for my first real pair of headphones

[sly warren]

But why?

HD58X are not great.

They are just crappy HD6XX

Save up a bit more dosh and get HD6XX

[latent hull]

Then I would definitely need a dac/amp for those and that means even more saving so that might be a few months

[sly warren]

You don't explicitly NEED a DAC and Amp for HD6XX

I know several people who use a dong in the meantime to getting a real amp and DAC

[little crater]

sometimes you dont even really need an amp, the opamp in most dacs is good enough for something like the 6XX

[rigid valve]

I’m gonna be inclined to disagree

[little crater]

assuming it has a headphone jack

[sly warren]

And you can be wrong.

[rigid valve]

58X has more sub

And the high peaks are not as pronounced

[sly warren]

Umm, what.

The 58X is a re-housed 500 series driver in a 600 series chassis.

The only 500 series that is worth purchasing is the HD560S, because it has a different driver.

[rigid valve]

But

No

[sly warren]

Yes...

[rigid valve]

The 500 series drivers are fine

There is nothing bad about them

[sly warren]

No... they really aren't.

Every HD5XX headphone produced outside of the 560S sounds like Midbassy muddy garbage.

[rigid valve]

Heh

That’s funny

[sly warren]

HD58X included.

[latent hull]

Realistically I am only going to use them for gaming and media consumption

[sly warren]

HD58X and HD6XX aren't great for that TBH. ATH-R70X would be better for gaming.

[rigid valve]

@latent hull realistically 58Xs are fine I know plenty of people who use them
Skiptrace is gonna bully you regardless so do what feels right to you

[sly warren]

R70X has better imaging

I'm not bullying.

I'm telling him that it's a sub-par product that he shouldn't purchase.

HD6XX are flat out better than HD58X

I know MANY people who would say that exact same statement and would back it up.

[latent hull]

@sly warren What headphones would you recommend for under $200 for gaming then?

[sly warren]

No cap, I recommend KSC75 for gaming until you can ante up for R70X

Hell, I have Drop HE-X4 and I use my KSC75 more for Gaming because the HE-X4 despite being technically better, are just too forking heavy to use for a long period of time.

[latent hull]

I would rather get something else as I really do not like on ear headphones

[sly warren]

Why?

It's literally one of the best budget contenders, and they have amazing imaging until you get R70X.

And you literally will forget you are wearing them.

[latent hull]

I like over ears more just because they feel nicer for longer periods of time for me

[sly warren]

I do it at least once or twice a day.

🤔

I literally barely even feel my KSC75

I also use them for VR

[latent hull]

Its really just personal preference for me

[sly warren]

If you absolutely will die without an Over Ear headphone, then HD560S will be a better option for Gaming

Balanced tonality, good bass extension, and solid imaging for the price.

And they don't need an Amp or DAC, but Sennheisers do like having an AMP and DAC

They are right at 200 USD

[little crater]

i can second the 560s, i freaking loved mine

[daring zenith]

meizu dongle should do fine with em

[latent hull]

Ok I think that I will go with those

[rigid valve]

Tbh

If meizu really is as advertised it should do fine with like 99% of headphones

[sly warren]

600 Ohms the Meizu Dongle cannot do.

That's a joke at best.

It would need a LOT more voltage than USB-C can output.

[little crater]

hardly any headphones worth buying are over 250 anyway

[sly warren]

Don't get me wrong, the Meizu Dongle is great

[rigid valve]

Add veer tie sing

[sly warren]

The R70X are 470 Ohms, and are legit kinda hard to drive with how insensitive they are.

[rigid valve]

If meizu did 600 ohm I would honestly shill it to hell

[little crater]

sheeeeesh

[sly warren]

Yeah, I'd have not needed to buy a Schiit Stack for my HE-X4 if the Meizu Dongle did 600 Ohms of output

[little crater]

i had no clue i swear those were way lower

i was looking at a pair of those last year before deciding on something else

[rigid valve]

Watch me drive a speaker using meizu dongle lmao

[sly warren]

470 Ohms at 99dBa sensitivity.

They are kinda hard to drive, but damn are they a great Gaming headphone.

And they are light AF

~200 grams

[rigid valve]

Sheeeeeesh

[latent hull]

If I did save and get the 6xx even though some people you know have used it with a dongle what dac would you recommend?

Would something like the atom dac work?

[sly warren]

An Atom Stack, A Schiit Stack, or a ZenDAC would work.

Most DACs don't have their own output.

They need an Amp to go with them

The ZenDAC is the one that doesn't NEED an amp because it has it's own output.

The Schiit Stack (Modi + Magni) is the one most people go with.

They also sell B-Stock units (Cosmetic issues, returned yet good units, old warehouse stock that went missing) at a discount.

[latent hull]

Ok thanks

My first choice would have been the Schiit Fulla but that won't ship until 3-4 months so I don't think that I would want to wait that long

[sly warren]

Nah, if you want a unit that will just DAC and Amp, I'd start with a ZenDAC

It's cheaper than a stack, and you can upgrade it with a ZenCAN later (The ZenCAN is an Amp)

[timber ridge]

did you know they made a v2?

[sly warren]

Pretty sure it's the same thing for the most part.

[timber ridge]

did not know til mr11 linked it lmao

k5 pro still a valid pick imo if you want a zen dac alternative tho

[mossy hull]

What would be a good headset/ earbud? I know headsets usually have better sound quality but headphones hurt my head and ears. Maybe I’m just wearing the wrong ones

Maybe something with big or round ear cups

I have a big head and big ears

[rigid valve]

What’s your budget

[sly warren]

I feel like you are wearing the wrong ones if they hurt.

[rigid valve]

^

[sly warren]

What are you currently using?

[mossy hull]

Hyperx cloud 2

[sly warren]

Well there's your problem.

A. They sound bad and B. They aren't that comfortable.

If you want something A. Cheap B. Comfortable and C. Sounds great. Koss KSC75's are excellent.

They aren't a traditional headset as it were. They are On-Ear clip-on headphones.

But you will basically forget you are wearing them.

And they are so well tuned, and have great stereo imaging for the price that even after you buy more expensive headphones you will probably come back to the KSC75 and keep using them.

[mossy hull]

Oh I see

I could perhaps try a headset since I guess I was using the wrong one

[sly warren]

Well, Gaming headsets suck.

[mossy hull]

Anything at and under 100 is fine

[sly warren]

Gaming Headsets Bad Because

1. Poor Stereo Imaging which leads to inaccurate positional audio in games
2. Poor Soundstaging, additional inaccuracy in positional audio
3. Bad driver tuning which tends to put emphasis on Bass which isn't good for gaming except for immersion.
4. USB Dongles that implement crappy 7.1 Surround that does not help with audio accuracy in games.

[mossy hull]

Yeah I wanted to do earbuds and mic combo initially, earphones are better than earbuds from what I’ve heard and read

[rigid valve]

If you’re concerned about earfit

[sly warren]

If you want something that will sound good for cheap and has a Mic.

https://www.amazon.com/Massdrop-KSC75X-Portable-Headphones-Microphone/dp/B084ZFGCMM/ref=sr_1_1

and https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-Headphone-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07K25P3N1/ref=sr_1_3

[mossy hull]

I wasn’t gonna use a built in mic from the headset

[sly warren]

You will want the Dongle by the way.

It will vastly improve sound quality over using standard motherboard sound.

https://www.amazon.com/Syntech-Compatible-Chargers-Standard-Interface/dp/B085VT1VJT/ref=sr_1_5 Buy a set of these if you don't have a USB-C port on your PC

[mossy hull]

Yeah I was gonna buy a separate mic like the q2u and then get something just for sound

[sly warren]

Oh

[mossy hull]

I don’t need a built in mic

[sly warren]

Still get the Dongle though.

[mossy hull]

Okay

[sly warren]

But, KSC75 + Dongle is like, your best ultra-cheap option for audio

[mossy hull]

Understood

[sly warren]

And it'll perform well in Gaming

[mossy hull]

So I shouldn’t really look for headsphones then?

[sly warren]

Well, you can

But, if you are just doing Gaming, your next upgrade from KSC75 is a pair of ATH-R70X which are 350 USD.

If you want something that is a bit more generalist, then you can go to HD560S

[mossy hull]

Holy smokes

Okay

[unreal ember]

Im no headphones expert at all so i come here seeking advice and help. I have been wanting a new headphones since I dont like the Razer Kraken headphones. I so far have 4 options that are "good" they are Oneodio , ATH-AD700x, Philips Audio Fidelio x2hr , and the ATH-M30x. I want some pretty good sound and comfort headphones with out breaking the bank

[steep pelican]

I didn’t even know glarses had tommyinnit build a f1-8x

[sly warren]

All of those are Hot Garbage.

If you want good headphones without breaking the bank, then you are looking at one of a few headphones

Koss KSC75: 25 bucks and you get amazing comfort and high audio quality
AKG K361: 100-ish bucks and you get great sound quality and pretty decent isolation and a superb time-tested sound profile
Sennheiser HD560S: 200 bucks on the dot, and you get a great all-rounder headphone with great Imaging and good comfort.

[unreal ember]

forgot to mention the HE400i2020

[sly warren]

HE400i 2020 would be hard to drive especially out of a motherboard.

Planar Magnetic headphones need a LOT of power.

A. What country are you in
B. What is your budget
C. Do you have any Source Gear (DAC, Amp, combo unit, etc)

[unreal ember]

im in the us, budget is 100-200ish (really dont want to spend nothing over that) and I have no source gear

[sly warren]

Welp, that basically narrows you down to KSC75 and buying a Dongle DAC.

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K
and
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-Headphone-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07K25P3N1/ref=sr_1_4

Those combined will give you an amazing cheap experience.

Before you say anything about "But they look weird" and "Those don't look comfortable"

They might look weird, but they sound GREAT. And, I honestly forget I am wearing them 90% of the time after I have them on for a few hours.

And the Apple Dongle is there to give you clean output. Motherboard audio sucks donkey nards because it's super noisy (electrically) compared to the clean output of a USB device (Less prone to electrical interference due to being a digital signal)

[unreal ember]

Thanks for the recommendation

[sly warren]

Yeah, I highly recommend avoiding the headphones you were originally looking at for different reasons per headphone

AD-700X: These things are good at one thing, Imaging. That's it. They are absolutely shite for actually listening to music or really anything
Fidelio X2HR: These things sound like tin cans, literally like you are listening out of a tin can.
ATH-M30x: These things were mediocre when they came out in the early 2010's and they are just bad now. Also they are painful to wear.
Oneodio: I've literally never heard of these headphones.

[main halo]

whats the best mouse feet i can buy rn?

[sturdy sinew]

is the wave xlr any good?

[west hornet]

I havent seen in depth review but it looks interesting, not many inputs and outputs i also dont see any metering on it but it has some nice things like the wavelink software and clipguard

[timber ridge]

for the price, i feel like you can get p much all the good mainstream interfaces

[west hornet]

Ye depends on your needs to which you get i suppose

[thick tartan]

chat has been dead lately :c

[steep pelican]

Yes it has

Only a week till frog drop 🙏

[timber ridge]

have you gone for any other drops ?

[gleaming pond]

no they are "self lubricating"

[timber ridge]

gotta break em in

[gleaming pond]

eventually they will be lubed like any normal switch

kek

[sturdy sinew]

alrighty I think It might be the way to go for a procaster since it doesn't need an inline preamp to my knowledge with it and it has cool software that could be helpful

[wanton burrow]

Aufio equipment graph is like swtich graph, no?
But like the freq goes up from left to right, and the higher is is on the graph the more that freq (bass,mid, someting like that) is more pronounced?

[left smelt]

Hi guys im looking to buy a keycap set

Should i get these

Or the hyperx pudding

(i have a womier k87)

[wanton burrow]

can opt for the xda ver of that same set more imo

should have alil better dye-sub qual iirc

[steep pelican]

No

[wanton burrow]

nice i think i can actually read another kind of graph

[left smelt]

cant find it lmao

only this version is available lol

[steep pelican]

Look on Amazon it’s on there too and if you live in US it will be cheaper shipping wise

Nvm

Judging by text on page I don’t think you are in the US

[shadow bane]

So relating to what I was saying the other day, i found these earbuds on sale on amazon for 30$, extra 20% off with honey, cost 26$ after tax, the sound quality is amazing for how cheap they are

As good as my shure headphones

[left smelt]

so do i get the hyperx puddings or these?

[steep pelican]

Those look pretty decent. I personally don’t like pudding caps because they look ugly when you don’t have rgb on and don’t even look that good with rgb

If you really want rgb and plan to keep it on a lot then pudding keycaps are fine

[left smelt]

well my rgb is comepletely nuts check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xSr66Cp528&t=66s

[timber ridge]

do you have a womier?

[left smelt]

yes

its the keyboard above

[timber ridge]

hav you looked into pom keycaps?

[left smelt]

what is that xD?

i want as much thock as possible tho

[timber ridge]

im not sure about sound sig but it lets rgb shine thru a lot

fits the womier perfectly imo

[thick tartan]

^

the sound sig on pom keycaps is pretty thoccy

[left smelt]

can you show me some good pom caps?

[timber ridge]

pom from esc is the best but if youre on a budget legit get any other one lol

[left smelt]

okayy

wait

its called jelly keycaps

pom jelly?

[timber ridge]

yup

[turbid epoch]

Hello! If I wanted to sell my Corsair K68 and M65 RGB Elite and get a Roccat Vulcan TKL and Kone AIMO would I be gaining any performance by the switch? Losing? Or are they apples to apples?

Corsair and Roccat

[timber ridge]

corsair is known for making like no good peripherals

and mouse depends on ur grip type and gaming keyboards are scams

[steep pelican]

^

[turbid epoch]

I def start out palm grip and immediately go to claw when dropping to Warzone. Lol

[timber ridge]

if you wanna stick to roccat then kone pro and kone aimo are p good

otherwise get a xm1r

[solar nebula]

ok idk what kinda witchcraft i used but my stabs work now

[turbid epoch]

Wow Endgame Gear huh? Looking pretty good

[hollow flower]

Y’all I just found the best mouse

Glide so good you don’t need a mousepad

[daring zenith]

lol

[rigid valve]

The best part is that it only dies once every couple years

[gleaming pond]

why do people always get this set with womier keyboards specifically the k66

[rigid valve]

Bc

Is pretty

[gleaming pond]

Ig because it looks good and its cheap, really cheap

[thick tartan]

i cant justify paying 150 dollars for plastic when u get the same quality for cheaper

thats just imo

[steep pelican]

Thank you Bitcoin overlords I may now be able to afford frog

[sly warren]

Damn, I've lost about 40 bucks on Safemoon.

[shadow bane]

So I'm an idiot and didn't know keychron k4 was Bluetooth and didn't have a receiver, so im using wired on it

Does it use battery if it's using the wire?

[steep pelican]

It shouldn’t no

[shadow bane]

kk

ty

[sturdy sinew]

yo since the wave xlr came out is it still worth to buy the go xlr mini? or is it more of a use case scenario

[west hornet]

the wave xlr is more software based and the goxlr has a bit more analog control. depends if you want the physical controls i guess or if one has a software option more important for you

[sturdy sinew]

Yea

neither of them seem like bad options although the wave xlr may be superior in the long run just because elgato likes updating and revising things. on the other hand I do prefer the actually sliders that the go xlr has so might go with that

and it should be able to power a rode procaster/shure sm7b without using a inline preamp and such

[thick tartan]

the q1 color choices are pretty bland not gonna lie

thought we were gonna see some vibrant color choices

[steep pelican]

Honestly if they did a pink I would have to consider grabbing one

[thick tartan]

exactly

[sly warren]

@sturdy sinew Just buy an M-Audio M-Track Solo

It's significantly cheaper than a Go XLR or Wave XLR

And why use an SM7B when a Samson Q2U is like 90% the mic that the SM7B is.

Are you making money off your voice or something?

[timber ridge]

if he has the budget, why not jus go for a m2 or evo4

[sly warren]

I honestly don't know those devices.

[timber ridge]

i was thinking the same until i remember keychron legit only makes black keyboards as of now lol

[timber ridge]

oh, jus some nice interfaces under 200

[sly warren]

M-Audio M-Track Solo is 60 bucks.

[timber ridge]

ik

if he could barely afford a scarlet solo then a m solo or umc22 might be good options

but his budget is p big

[sly warren]

Scarlet Solo is worse than the M-Solo

UMC22 is just bad.

I used to use one, after changing to an M-Track Solo, my mic quality went way up.

[timber ridge]

exactly

[rigid valve]

So why would you make a different recommendation if you don’t know the devices nor their capabilities

[sly warren]

I'm just making the recommendation based on the 2 devices I have direct knowledge of.

[rigid valve]

Better to make no recommendations than potentially fault ones

[sly warren]

I'm not making faulty ones though.

The M-Track Solo is a great device

[rigid valve]

You could be recommending something with far inferior quality

[sly warren]

The Go XLR and Wave XLR are overpriced for what they offer.

The M-Track Solo is like, 90% of what the Go XLR and Wave XLR offer, everything else can be done in Software (and on both devices IS done in Software)

[rigid valve]

You just said that you don’t know those devices

[sly warren]

No...

[rigid valve]

Unless you’re referring to the SM7B which you clearly have no clue about

[sly warren]

I said I didn't know the M2 and EVO4

And the SM7B is just overpriced for anyone not making actual money from their voice.

Let's be real.

[rigid valve]

DPA is overpriced

Sm7B is not

[neon quartz]

Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sly warren]

Oh right, baby server rules...

It's 400 forking dollars.

You don't need a 400 dollar mic to Stream or talk in Discord.

The Samson Q2U gets 90% of the job done.

[rigid valve]

Heh

[sly warren]

Heh nothing.

[rigid valve]

You don’t need much

There is no reason to recommend a Q2U to someone who wants an Sm7b

The sm7b is a better mic

[sly warren]

Yes there is.

It's better in basically no perceptible way when Compression is a factor.

Uncompressed? Oh hell yeah the SM7B is a better mic.

[rigid valve]

I disagree heavily

[sly warren]

But, over the internet with compressed audio? You are hard-pressed to find a difference.

[timber ridge]

id recommend a re20 over sm7b lol

[rigid valve]

You can tell the difference between a DPA and an SM7B even with YouTube’s horrible audio compression

And yes I’m aware that DPA is a brand not a model

[sturdy sinew]

I've looked up reviews on the m audio m track solo, a few gripes here and there but doesn't seem to be bad however, I'm not looking for the best bang for the buck build in that price range. I understand that upgrading to a go xlr mini/wave xlr and getting an xlr mic isn't worth it for my use case, I just enjoy technology.

[timber ridge]

did you check out the motu m2 or audient evo4?

[sturdy sinew]

yea audient evo 4 seems extremely user friendly

motu m2 I believe I liked a lot

the only reason I've looked at the go xlr mini and wave xlr is to control apps like spotify/discord/game chat etc without having to setup a macro on a mouse or keyboard or somethin

and slightly because it looks cool haha

[timber ridge]

oh okay

get watever suites u best

dont really think you can go wrong with ur budget unless you manage to pick something terrible lol

[west hornet]

There are many great mics in the price category but it comes down to what you want to do with it and your voice or instrument you are recording

[turbid epoch]

Corsair Virtuoso XT. Problem solved. Lol

[steep pelican]

Corsair peripheral

[rigid valve]

lmao

[steep pelican]

You’d be hard pressed to find any Corsair product that isn’t overwhelming beaten by a lot of products

It’s like 4000d airflow and that’s it

[rigid valve]

Don’t they have decent PSU

[steep pelican]

Fans are overpriced
Ram is overpriced and scuffed dies
Watercooling is overpriced
Peripherals all over priced
Coolers overpriced
Most of their cases are too expensive or have trash airflow

[rigid valve]

CXM or something

[steep pelican]

Yeah they have the rx and hx I think but they usually get beat in price and quality in every category except like 1000-1200w+

Cxm isn’t that good

[rigid valve]

Ok

[daring zenith]

is beaten by a bunch of other cases

[daring zenith]

cxm is the trash one

[steep pelican]

True as well

[rigid valve]

I guess I had a clem moment

[daring zenith]

cxm is the one that whines like hell

also low quality in general

voltreg and such

it taints the name of the actually good cx

[rigid valve]

Ah

Happy with me CM MWE though

Quiet except for a super high pitch noise that I’m pretty sure most if not every psu has

[daring zenith]

that's coil whine

cxm whines a lot

[rigid valve]

Ok

[timber ridge]

corsair has decent psu but at that price there is a bunch of alternatives

[prime notch]

Ok this is so specific but I want a mouse pad under 30$ and around 17x7 inches and be in the quick category of mouse pads

Any good options

[rigid valve]

Check pins

[boreal heath]

1440p 165hz or 1080p 240hz. I have a 1660supsr

[timber ridge]

tbh id jus stick with 1080p 144hz

[boreal heath]

Even if i plan upgrading gpu in the future?

[timber ridge]

if youre plannin on upgrading then 1440p

[boreal heath]

What if i plan upgrading like not so soon

[timber ridge]

buy when youre ready

unless youre like an osu player then ig 240hz is cool

[boreal heath]

So the 1440p would prob be best option?

[timber ridge]

in my opinion, yes

[boreal heath]

Okay thanks

[frail sedge]

guys is Corsair Void Pro a good headset

[timber ridge]

👍

[frail sedge]

Yeah it seemed pretty good

Is it better than Cloud II?

[timber ridge]

doubt it

corsair doesnt really make anything good, specially peripherals

but if youre happy about it then i see no problem with it

[frail sedge]

but.. but it's in a dharr man video

that means it has to be the best

[timber ridge]

dont know who that is

[golden nexus]

What a good keyboard that doesn’t include switches? (Rgb and black)

[frail sedge]

So a membrane keyboard?

[golden nexus]

Idk if that’s what you call it, but I have my own 3 pin switches that ima put on it

[timber ridge]

whats your budget

and what form factor

[golden nexus]

No more then 60$

60%

[timber ridge]

i recommend you save a bit more tbh

[frail sedge]

membranes are keyboards that aren't mechanical

[golden nexus]

I can’t, I have to order it by tonight or else I won’t have a keyboard for my pc

[timber ridge]

theres like nothing good in that range

womier is a bit more but not everyone is a fan of the crazy rgb

[golden nexus]

Ok well not talking about price then… What’s just like a good keyboard?

Example: Like a rk61 or gk61

I don’t care if it includes switches or not

[timber ridge]

gk anything is garb

if you want a solid kit rn, 67 lite is an easy recommendation

[golden nexus]

What’s the difference between rk61 and gk61?

[queen sigil]

@timber ridge fr4 kbd67 lite plate is so nice

[timber ridge]

well rk jus as bad

[queen sigil]

not typing on it but the gold looks so nice

[timber ridge]

kinda wish i kept my 67 lite but w/e

lmk if it feels any dif

[golden nexus]

I can’t kind the 67 lite on Amazon… do you have a link? @timber ridge

[timber ridge]

https://divinikey.com/collections/kbd67-lite/products/kbdfans-kbd67-lite-mechanical-keyboard-diy-kit

rip most colors sold out

[golden nexus]

Ok I’m not gonna lie I was thinking it was a little cheap, anything you recommend that’s 80$ or less

@timber ridge

[timber ridge]

womier or keychron hotswap on amazon

[golden nexus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089SHMD61/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_0V4J6EY3FQW1A4M9YE8V

[timber ridge]

should be fine but only downside is that its south facing leds so cherry keycaps will have some interference

[wanton burrow]

if you're willing to get a lil bit bigger in terms of form factor and $10 more for the case, i could suggest yc66. if you don't want to increae price, tom680

[wanton burrow]

nope

it's the opposite for the k66

north is the one that has interference

yc66 is essentially a k66 but as a kit and is high profile

[daring zenith]

By the way, they're asking for a board that doesn't come with switches, a barebones board, that you can put your own switches in, for example, like kbd67 lite, or like gmmk pro

Anyways hotswap is nice

Just pick up and swap switches with ease

[daring zenith]

And by the way, Corsair headsets can be generalized as the title of one of the reviews on one of the headsets, "A Beauty to Hold.. Terror to Hear"

Cloud ii should just be better

[timber ridge]

I had it right the first time but edited lmao

[wanton burrow]

cherry mx clear/gray/blue/green with tactile blue velvet stem

[proud elk]

what are some good between 60/75 prebuild keyboards for max 200£

[steep pelican]

Keychron q1 is coming out soon and is about that price I think

[steep pelican]

Moondrop sparks has anime girl on the Amazon page huh

[wanton burrow]

Leopold (both Mechanical & Topres), Niz Plum/Plum Atoms, Keychron Prebuilts

[wanton burrow]

well, ain't all of their iems has some anime girl innit

[steep pelican]

I thought it was just arias

[wanton burrow]

watch that moondrop factory tour

you'll see why

man i probably like to buy iem more than keeb smh smh smh smh

in terms of which one to buy first, that is

[wanton burrow]

just checked, most of their iems i know has an anime girl as the front presentation

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

imma see if that scented packaging on the arias is true as well

[steep pelican]

I’m reconsidering my choices atm

I can get frog
I can get scarlet and an iem
I can get q1 and maybe a stacked acrylic Alice
I can get some Alice and iem

I could upgrade cpu

Hard choices

[wanton burrow]

i'm seeing some $400 1080s floating around here but me not have $400

and if i have one i'll jsut complete the melody96 build

or at least that's the board i'm currently considering

[steep pelican]

I have about 500 in cash monies rn

Frog is like 400

And I would still need stabs and keycaps and more switches

[wanton burrow]

i only have $15 in mine

[wet dirge]

if im going to be keeping my keyboard in my backpack should i buy a case for it?

[steep pelican]

I mean it would help keep it from being jostled around and the switches pressed down.

And keep it cleaner

[proud elk]

damn are u sure

it looks really good

[steep pelican]

170 USD idk how much that is in £

[proud elk]

is about 130£

[steep pelican]

The other option I can think of is kbdfans prebuilts

But they aren’t hotswap

For you budget I personally would get the built q1, maybe some nicer switches, a set of stabs and lube

[proud elk]

i hope i can buy one before they run out of stock in 1 day lol

[steep pelican]

It’s an instock item

Preorders start beginning of august

[proud elk]

thats hella cool

[little crater]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255067230394

can someone buy this for me?

plz

[rigid valve]

i'll buy it for you but the cost of me buyin git for you is gonna be $350

[little crater]

well tbh the keyboard alone usually goes for 800-1200

this one was built for nasa by IBM in the 80s

auction gonna go up to 2k at least

wouldnt be suprised if it sells for like 3-4k

[wanton burrow]

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[tight pulsar]

think i know somebody with one of those

[red sail]

@floral lake
What are your thoughts on the keychron k6

[floral lake]

gud keeb

i want but spensiv for me

[red sail]

It's only 100

[floral lake]

not for me unfortunately

[red sail]

?

[rigid valve]

regional pricing

[floral lake]

ye it's over 100 here

looked in keychron thailand

i could just get rk100/860 instead

or rk61 if i want 60%

[red sail]

I just saw it was 64$ new on Amazon

[red sail]

sad days©️™️

[timber ridge]

get a build done from keeblook lol

[floral lake]

Oh, haven't heard of that site

Looks nice

How'd you know of this tho? I'm curious

Anyhow, I prefer buying prebuilts than gettin people to build for me after I get the parts myself tbh

[red sail]

Before I got into the custom keeb Rabbit hole I got a havit keeb and I haven't get to use it and now months later I still haven't used it and I can't buy another till I use this one

The stabs sound bad but the keeb itself looks good

[timber ridge]

came across him a long while back

[floral lake]

ah

[timber ridge]

he also has a kb in ic phase rn

555 65

[golden nexus]

What’s the keyboard called that doesn’t include switches?

[rigid valve]

kit

a kit is a case, pcb, plate, sometimes stabs

no switches or caps

[steep pelican]

I mean you are probably thinking of barebones

[golden nexus]

Is this a good keyboard? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XNKYWBV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_9CYMT8SFD2JCJTQKM9TC

[rigid valve]

knowing kprepublic it's probably kinda shaky

a lot of their stuff has really bad qc

[golden nexus]

How come a barebones keyboard cost more the a regular keyboard? Shouldn’t the barebones be cheaper because it doesn’t have switches or caps included?

[queen sigil]

because barebones are targeted towards custom keyboard people

which are usually p[eople willing to spend dumb amounts of money

[rigid valve]

also

i believe gk61 prebuilt is not hs

and some are also optical, which is cheaper

[golden nexus]

So should I just buy a keyboard that already has switches and caps in it and just replace the switches?

[queen sigil]

i mean if you just want a good looking keyboard and not a custom one

yes

[golden nexus]

Is this a good keyboard?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093KK66KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WGB4DPXTYYM72KMXYFMN

[rigid valve]

ive never heard of the board or the company

might be fine might be crap

get an rk61 if you're budget minded the new versions are all hs

[ivory fable]

What do people think of the nothing ear 1 btw?

[golden nexus]

Ok one more keyboard I found https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083H1RBHZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_9V5NF62RDR2CANKH2X3X

[solar nebula]

ok so i lubed mx blues

[rigid valve]

yc66 is pretty good

[solar nebula]

idk what i was thinking

[golden nexus]

Ok what should I look into when finding the right key caps?

[thick tartan]

its all preference. but personally i try to avoid abs style keycaps cause they tend to get a shine after awhile, id go for pbt and watever profle ur looking for

https://kbdfans.com/collections/interest-checks/products/ic-phase-one-65

[steep pelican]

hmm it looks nice but its also just another gasket mount 65%. I would only consider if sub 250 tbh

[marble kettle]

what mouse should i get (upgrading from g300s) looking for one in the $150-0 budget

[steep pelican]

150 to what

I mean gpro super light

Is like one of the best

But only if you finger tip

[thick tartan]

whats ur grip type

[timber ridge]

usually not a fan of boards that look like that but thats clean

it was used for an epbt set render a while back

[steep pelican]

Epbt less is better

[wet dirge]

Do the keychron carrying cases have space for their palm rests?

[steep pelican]

I don’t think so

But you can just put that outside since it’s not fragile I think

[cobalt notch]

Need opinions

[rigid valve]

On what

[cobalt notch]

Before

After

[rigid valve]

So you

Swapped the keywords

Keycaps

[cobalt notch]

Yeah

[rigid valve]

Looks nice

[cobalt notch]

But I'm not sold on it yet lol

Thoughts

[feral pulsar]

Does anyone know anything about powerline adapters?

[solar nebula]

anyome know a hotswap kit with the same layput as the gamakay k66

[rigid valve]

Yc66

[solar nebula]

are the stabs plate mount or screw in

[rigid valve]

Plate

[solar nebula]

ty

[wet dirge]

Im looking for some computer speakers if anyone has any recommendations. I need some that are pretty small and about 100-150 or less. Wired is fine I don't need bluetooth.

[timber lagoon]

I'm looking for 65% gaming keyboards for under around $80. I am looking for something with linear switches and Backlit like RGB or at least LED. I also want something hot-swap.

[daring zenith]

keychron

[timber lagoon]

Ok I was looking at those actually

[rigid valve]

Also Rk68

Keychron build quality will be better but Rk has option for flat black or white

[timber lagoon]

I like the look of the keychron

My $30 keyboard with blue switches is wayyyy too loud and stabilizers are absolute garbage.

[fiery marsh]

Anyone have recommendations for a 55 in desk?

[thorny eagle]

is this good by chance?

https://redragonshop.com/products/deimos-k599-wireless-keyboard?_pos=1&_sid=d049a2f5c&_ss=r

[thick tartan]

are herman miller chairs good

[rigid valve]

Yeah just expensive af

[thick tartan]

think im in shop for a new chair tbh

hm

[snow briar]

I love mine, if you’re looking to save some on it look for offices going out of business, usually will sell them for cheap and they all have 10 year warranties

[thick tartan]

ok

[timber ridge]

idk if you believe in spirits or not but i snagged an office chair from a company and it was legit haunted lmao

[thick tartan]

lmfao ive seen some stuff so i could see it

[calm cobalt]

i have rad usd connect its usb 3.2

[wanton burrow]

Womier K66. have fun with the rainbow barf lol

good keycaps aren't shine-through? the case is gonna be the shine-through instead

also, k66 is using south facing led orientation

should be ~$70 iirc

or 80 idk

[marble kettle]

is the razer viper ultimate still worth it

[rigid valve]

yes

100%

[sly warren]

It's a good mouse. If your hand fits it and you have the money for one.

[marble kettle]

im just concerned bout the price

prob should go for the mini

[timber ridge]

the chair would move by itself on carpet which is p hard and i would go to my setup jus to see my headset cable being wrapped around the base n stuff

it was weird asf

[thick tartan]

lmfao

[timber ridge]

yea

i was okay with it but one of my sisters saw it move by itself so my parent got rid of it lol

[sand igloo]

is there a way to adequately lube my mechanical keeb without de-soldering OR dismantling the whole board?

[steep pelican]

No

[sand igloo]

alrighty

i can't even take off the keycaps and brush the switch casing/springs with lube?

[steep pelican]

Nah it either will do nothing or will do bad stuff

[sand igloo]

gotcha

thanks

[steep pelican]

Either sell current keeb and get a hotswap keychron or other budget alternatives which then would allow you to lube switches/buy switches that don’t really need lube, or just wait until you can get a new keeb

[sly warren]

Are there any Linears that don't really need lube?

Or is that just a pipe dream?

[steep pelican]

nk creams idk I meant like factory lubed switches

[rigid valve]

factory lubed switches or UHMWPE switches that are so smooth you won't be able to notice unless you have like hundreds of swtiches

[timber ridge]

my matchas felt good stock

[hollow flower]

I miss my HD800S

My uncle started working on recording again so I had to give them back

[timber ridge]

rip

[hollow flower]

Anyone have some suggestions for $300 closed back headphones

I kinda want to try something new

Can stretch the budget to maybe $400

[rigid valve]

Uh

Do you have a DAC

If you do, definitely consider ATH-M70X
God tier stereo imaging

I think Teaks also sit in that price range

If you don’t have a dac then get like DT770s or K371s with a Zen or something

[hollow flower]

Already have DT770s and a pair of K371s lol

Yeah I have a schiit jotunheim

Why do I want new headphones? I have no idea I just want something new haha

[timber ridge]

teaks would be a fun pair if you can find them used

theyre a bit over budget but biodynamic drivers go brrr

[rigid valve]

Oh lmao

Then I gotta agree with lance

[west hornet]

i've always wanted to try the harmonicdyne zeus but from what i understand they are not allrounders

[timber ridge]

those are the wooden ones right

with like a crazy design

[hollow flower]

Oooh never heard of those

[west hornet]

they have crazy design, idk if it is real wood tho

[timber ridge]

dont they make 2 that look similar

like one is sub 300 then the other is a bit more

[hollow flower]

You know they actually look really good

I think my music shop might have a pair so I’ll try them out

[golden nexus]

Is it cheaper to buy a keyboard kit? Or buy all the parts separately

[rigid valve]

Well you buy a kit and then you buy switches and keycaps

Whcih is almost always more expensive than a prebuilt

But much higher potential for quality

[golden nexus]

What is that brown stuff that the guy is putting under the stabilizers?

[rigid valve]

Probably bandaids for the bandaid mod

[thick tartan]

you could get switches that have self lubing material

[queen sigil]

[rigid valve]

[sharp kindle]

What

[sharp kindle]

Akko cs are pretty decent stock

No ping

Smooth

Cheap

Or any ktt lol

Since akko is ktt

[thick tartan]

what do you mean what

look it up

[rigid valve]

If you’re talking about POM

That is a massive scam

[thick tartan]

pretty sure im not talking about pom

[rigid valve]

So whatcha talking bout

[sharp kindle]

Creams are pom

The self lubricating thing is just untrue

Finally clem and I agree on something

[thick tartan]

again i didnt say anything about pom

[rigid valve]

kekw

[sharp kindle]

So what self lubricating material are you referring to?

[rigid valve]

So what are you talking about lmao

[sharp kindle]

POM is marketed as “self lubricating”

keyword being marketed

Idk any other material that’s marketed as self lubricating

[timber ridge]

creams a scam

[rigid valve]

Fax

[timber ridge]

only thing good is stem but you can get cheaper long pole stems elsewhere lol

[rigid valve]

Yep

[sharp kindle]

Speed silver

Only good for stems

[timber ridge]

any kailh linear p much

[rigid valve]

Yes

[timber ridge]

speed silvers are atleast cheap tho

[sharp kindle]

Speed silver for the memes though

[timber ridge]

its like 2.70 for 10

[thick tartan]

hmm the only thing is actually pom i thought it was also UHMWPE

[neon quartz]

EonServo#7007 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton burrow]

haven't seen uhmwpe being marketed as self lubricating, i have only seen the "smoothest" material for switches bs

[thick tartan]

lmfao

im just saying tht ive seen tht i never believe it

like pom on pom just creates resistance so i know it was never true

thts why creams are scartchy

[wanton burrow]

any KTT Linear with transluscent top housing (kang whites, strawberry, Rose, etc.), that new gazzew boba linear thocks if stock u4t perf would also apply to that

[sly warren]

Holy mother of God. KTT Kang Whites are DIRT cheap

I can get 90 switches for 24.30 USD from Dangkeebs

Does anyone have information on the Cherry "Hyperglide" switches?

Apparently they were announced at CES 2020, and is a new tooling from Cherry for increased smoothness and tighter tolerances.

[floral lake]

The price of gateron optical yellows are so high for 104 switches, ree

[sly warren]

Ok, just from looking at one review. That's forking bogus, they are literally the same.

Yeah, because Optical shiz

[floral lake]

I wanna try replacing em in a keeb I have my eyes on lmao

[sly warren]

You... uhh... I'm pretty sure need a special PCB for Optical switches.

[floral lake]

Really?

[sly warren]

At least, from what I have found can't just put normal switches in a board that came with Optical switches.

And, I'd assume the inverse is also correct.

E.x Keychron says you can't put Keychron Optical switches in a normal Keychron board.

[floral lake]

Oh, depends on the slot then

[sly warren]

You need a Keychron board that was pre-equipped for Optical switches.

[floral lake]

Sad

[sly warren]

Yeah

[floral lake]

Eh, whatever, I'll do with reds

[sly warren]

You definitely need an Optical equipped board.

That is NOT at all, a normal bottom housing

[floral lake]

Yep, that's definitely a diff socket

[sly warren]

Just buy regular Gat Yellows then.

Should be a damn near identical experience.

[floral lake]

I'm aiming for fast switches

[sly warren]

For what purpose...

Your switch speed is not the limitation to your APM

[floral lake]

I play osu

[sly warren]

And Optical switches haven't been proven by anyone to be better for gaming.

[floral lake]

I don't need typing speed, just want that stamina for that game lel

[sly warren]

Then just build a single button board.

Literally just build a board with 1 key, and make that key as large as you want.

And it's not like you are going to wear out a switch that easily. Most switches are rated for like, 50m keystrokes.

Some are nearing 100m

[floral lake]

Mhm, well. I just wanna start with a whole keeb first myself

Maybe I'll consider it

If I have money by then

[timber ridge]

good

[sly warren]

How are they good when they are literally identically the same as the normal switches.

At least according to a couple of videos I found.

They even SOUND the same.

[timber ridge]

what are you comparing it to

[rigid valve]

Sound tests are not an accurate representation of a switch as the mic and environment will be different as well as the fundamental build of the keyboard which affects sound much more than the switches in the board.

[rigid valve]

Compared to normal cherries, hyperglides use newer tooling which makes them smoother

[sly warren]

In the videos I looked at it was Cherry Blacks vs Cherry Hyperglide Blacks

[rigid valve]

Yeah the hyperglides will be smoother

[timber ridge]

updated molds n stuff

[sly warren]

Hrm...

KTT Kang Whites or Hyperglide Blacks...

🤔

the Kang Whites are cheaper, but the Cherry Blacks I know I'd like because I've used and enjoyed Gat Blacks before.

[rigid valve]

Kang Whites will feel better if you aren’t gonna lube

[sly warren]

Ah ok

And would they feel better beyond that If I do decide to lube?

[rigid valve]

Uh

Kang Whites vs Hyperglides Blacks I’m not sure

[wanton burrow]

cherry's new tooling, should be easier to break in iirc

it has "fuller" sound iirc than retools

nor sure

forgot what tempe5t implie on their differences

[ivory fable]

So can i get someone's opinion on the nothing ear one? Because I was looking for some earbuds that i can just have with me when it's awkward to bring my headphones and comfort and fit is a big factor for me as earbuds usually don't fit very well in my ears but the ear ones look pretty good from what i can see and priced decently too, sound quality isn't as important to me but it looks like it's about airpods pro quality which would be plenty for me.

[sly warren]

Yeah... I'd skip them.

They don't even have AptX

[ivory fable]

Really?

:/

[sly warren]

And there's not even a Frequency Response Graph yet.

[ivory fable]

Right, i was just kinda comparing from reviews

[sly warren]

And the Case is HUGE

Just get Airpods Pro

[ivory fable]

Thing is they aren't comfortable to me

[sly warren]

🤔

[ivory fable]

And don't stay in my ear

[sly warren]

How?!?

[ivory fable]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly warren]

Are you talking about normal Airpods or Pro?

Normal Airpods suck

[ivory fable]

Odd shaped ear or something

[sly warren]

Airpods Pro are actually good

[ivory fable]

Nah pro

[sly warren]

I'm very skeptical of that.

Have you tried using say, Foam eartips?

Comply makes replacement Foam Airpods Pro eartips

[rigid valve]

have you tried different earthings

[ivory fable]

My gf has airpods pro and they felt uncomfortable and fell out easy

Ehh i haven't actually

[ivory fable]

Comply? Never heard of them I'll have a look

[west hornet]

Airpods are known not to fit everyone, its like 50/50

[sly warren]

Comply is like, one of the biggest Foam Eartip Manufacturers on the planet.

Yeah

Nothing Ear 1's don't even support AptX

Hard pass

[rigid valve]

what is a nothing ear 1

never heard

[sly warren]

It's a new TWS IEM made by former OnePlus engineers.

It's already hot ass due to a lack of AptX support

And a fugly gigantic case

[rigid valve]

could be good in the future

just needs revisions yeah

[ivory fable]

They're supposed to sound good, tuned by teenage engineering and stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly warren]

That means literally nothing.

[west hornet]

Idk much in wireless scene

[sly warren]

Until a Frequency Response graph exists for them, they are hot ass

[west hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ivory fable]

Case isn't a deal-breaker for me as long as it's pocketable

[rigid valve]

until one that's not from rtings*

[sly warren]

It's a BIG case

It's larger than an iPod Mini

[west hornet]

I mean a freq response graph is not a deal breaker, it is mostly personal preference anyway

[ivory fable]

Yeah that's fine as long as i can fit it in a pocket lol

[sly warren]

I doubt it actually can.

[rigid valve]

that case is fugly ngl

[west hornet]

What price were you looking at pato?

[ivory fable]

I don't want to spend air pods pro money anyway

Preferably 100€/$ or less

[sly warren]

Do you have an iPhone already?

[ivory fable]

Nope

[rigid valve]

sparks then

imo

[sly warren]

Oh, screw it just buy Moondrop Sparks

[west hornet]

I know sony had some new wireless iems but i cant find a price, probably over anyway

[sly warren]

They don't have ANC, but they are BANGERS in the sound department.

[rigid valve]

and i mean if you get good eartips and a proper fit you can go without anc imo

[ivory fable]

Another reason i dont want airpods cuz i hate anc feeling and can't turn that off easily with Android afaik

[rigid valve]

yeah

sparks

[sly warren]

Yep, Moondrop Sparks.

[ivory fable]

Okay I'll have a look thanks

[sly warren]

They come in 3 colors too!

Black, Pink, and Purple

[ivory fable]

Ik this is quite subjective but are they comfy and do they fit well is the main factor for me so like sound quality isn't as important to me, they comfy and fit good?

[west hornet]

That reminds me there was also those new beats wireless iems that work much better with android and bit cheaper, don’t think there is anc either tho

[rigid valve]

i haven't heard of anyone with concerns about fit

probably just take a while to get a proper seal

but that's not abnormal

[ivory fable]

I never use anc anyway so ya

[rigid valve]

wait

ddi someone say

[ivory fable]

Wdym by take a while to get a proper seal?

[rigid valve]

beats?!

[sly warren]

Though, TBH I might take the plunge on the Ear (1) and see if they are good. But... The lack of AptX is making me trepidatious.

[rigid valve]

as the iem eartip leaves minimal room for bass to leak which allows for a fuller sound

[wanton burrow]

are spinfits nice?

[rigid valve]

as well as you need less volume

[west hornet]

Ok ok beats are usually terrible ye but apparently their new iems were actually not that bad. Cant say for myself tho

[rigid valve]

which preserves ear health

[ivory fable]

So it kinda shapes over time?

[rigid valve]

if you get foam it'll work like that

sort of

kinda

[ivory fable]

I see

[rigid valve]

they look nice idk though

dont do much in the iem world personally

[ivory fable]

Well i mean I've had tinnitus since about the age of 15/16 anyway so not a huge concern x)

[rigid valve]

rippp

[ivory fable]

Also kinda despise the vaccum feeling

I'll have a look at the sparks tho

[timber ridge]

nothing ear 1 have really good anc apparently tho

[ivory fable]

Have any you guys tried out the sparks btw? They don't look very comfortable, bit concerned bout that

[timber ridge]

friend of mine has them

[ivory fable]

Do you know if they find them comfy? Want to know as my ears are wack lol

[timber ridge]

ill ask him

[ivory fable]

Ty :)

[timber ridge]

dont think hes up rn but ill lyk when he replies

[ivory fable]

Np not in a rush :)

[timber ridge]

"honestly p solid, the foam ear tips are really nice because they mold to the shape of your ears'
the other ear tips didn't fit on the thing for me so idk"

he said they do look a bit funny tho

[ivory fable]

Hmm okay

Ik this sounds weird but is there a way you can describe how foam tips feel, because if it's kinda vaccum-ish would be a no go for me

[wanton burrow]

yo

new drop from moondrop

it looks p cool

[timber ridge]

foam tips kinda jus expand til it no longer can in ur ear canal

[west hornet]

Foam tips have a great seal, the ones i have just fall out of my ears slowly sadly 😦 i think they are too big for me

[wanton burrow]

it's see-through olololol

[timber ridge]

i kinda wanna get back into audio but im getting back into shoes

[wanton burrow]

[ivory fable]

Hmmm idk if i would like that or not lol, worth a shot i suppose, any cheap good foam ear tips i could throw on some old earphones i have at the moment to try what they feel like?

[timber ridge]

yup

only dif is prob build quality