Haven't personally used it, but I heard good things about it, and if you decide to get it I'd recommend getting hotswap
#peripherals-and-displays
gleaming pond
sand igloo
thanks
stray compass
it’s alright, depending on what budget you’ve got and what needs you have
but if you need an upgradeable full-size under $70 that’s a great option
daring zenith
it's good for price
although I'm still not sure if C- boards get pre-lubed stabs or not now
sand igloo
ah
sand igloo
but if you need an upgradeable full-size under $70 that’s a great option
thanks, that's what I'm looking for
full-sized without blue switches
stray compass
nice
consider upgrading to ks3 gateron down the line, would be much smoother
but yeah, keychron is generally a sure shot in the hotswap budget realm
thick tartan
if i ever invest in a board for traveling cause i dont need one in the immediate future; Definitely gonna pick up some gateron switches
steep pelican
if i ever invest in a board for traveling cause i dont need one in the immediate...
akko cs switches are pretty good value to honesty
thick tartan
thats a fact
steep pelican
or ktt switches if you want something a little heavier
rigid valve
Akko linears and ktt linears p similar
steep pelican
akko cs are made by ktt anyways
thick tartan
if i was gonna try akko switches id probably go for the reds honestly
they sound crisp
steep pelican
Akko linears and ktt linears p similar
well cs rose is like 55g actuation and and ktt rose is 60g
wait nvm lol
thick tartan
to me greens have a wierd scratchy noise that i cant tell what its from
rigid valve
Arent the roses 43
And greens 55
steep pelican
cs rose are 43 g
rigid valve
to me greens have a wierd scratchy noise that i cant tell what its from
Might’ve just been that one specific sounds test the person finger on the keycap
steep pelican
to me greens have a wierd scratchy noise that i cant tell what its from
hamaji neo said they have a ton of spring ping
very noticeable
steep pelican
cs ocean blues are pretty good, tho i would want to lube the spring if i was going to use them
Im returning cause I dont feel like lubing and i have other tactiles coming anyways
thick tartan
for me im probably gonna invest in more linears since im not very familliar with them
been apart of tactile gang for awhile
rigid valve
https://youtu.be/eTbb4DuDNus?t=168 you can hear the ping here
For some reason I heavily doubt it was the matchas
But who knows
And yeah epbt stuff is lit
steep pelican
those keycaps were fire for the price honestly
still 90 bucks but i guess worth it for some people
if i was going to get keycaps that expensive id just go and get like gmk lavender or something
thick tartan
i made a list of good quality keycaps for cheap
rigid valve
What’s on the list
thick tartan
one sec
stray compass
inb4 hkgaming and akko
rigid valve
lmao
steep pelican
only getting one fps on the desktop
rigid valve
LMAO
thick tartan
hk gaming and akko are on there for sure
rigid valve
lmao
thick tartan
but i got a pbt japanese dye sub legend one on here
rigid valve
Why support hk gaming
Big sad
thick tartan
idk what u mean by tht
neon quartzBOT
hzsh#1751 has been warned
stray compass
oops
timber ridge
i got mixed opinions about hamaji neo
rigid valve
idk what u mean by tht
HK Gaming is run by scumbags who refuse to credit original designers while actively knowing that they’re making clones. They flaunt the fact that nobody can touch them since they have so much money.
thick tartan
for sure its scumbaggy
rigid valve
Product is product
thick tartan
and as an artist id be furious if it was my work
but
exactly
i havent bought any keycaps from them so
rigid valve
For cheap caps I’d basically get YMDK or Akko
thick tartan
but if i was looking for pudding keycaps or the like theyre on the list
rigid valve
but if i was looking for pudding keycaps or the like theyre on the list
Ducky puddings tho
thick tartan
yep YMDK is on there aswell
im pretty sure i spent like 2 hours hunting keycaps on kbd
that arent on group buys and arent overpriced
so i have some options there
timber ridge
hk def scummy but there is like no other alternative that is as cheap or constantly in stock
rigid valve
Bottom of the barrel but still decent for me is Happy Balls
rigid valve
Mistel is great
thick tartan
i think thats their name too
rigid valve
Drop sets are nice and vibrant
thick tartan
yup
timber ridge
mistel is nice but oem only
rigid valve
I’ve also heard some decent things about glorious caps
But knowing glorious like
rigid valve
MOOOOOOOM
I NEED $50
thick tartan
ye mistel is oem
timber ridge
lmao
rigid valve
Mistel caps slap lmao
timber ridge
if youre fine with oem, def a solid option
thick tartan
glorious caps are nice but
timber ridge
im jus a cherry simp
thick tartan
havent bought anything from them since my compact
timber ridge
glorious caps are eh
idk how they manage to mess up simple bow
mod text placement is wonky even after they fixed it a bit
thick tartan
i think alll their stuff on the sight is overpriced for the quality you get
timber ridge
and inconsistent legends
thick tartan
maybe like pre model o era glorious was fine but when they blew up they went down in the dumps for me
its like the same thing with Secret labs chair that ive had for like 3 years
i got my chair for 150 when secret labs was even a competitor to DXR
since they blew up everything so expensive lol
stray compass
mod text placement is wonky even after they fixed it a bit
ascend key 
tight pulsar
mistel all text shift ruins it
sharp kindle
maybe like pre model o era glorious was fine but when they blew up they went dow...
So when they made radiators and mousepads
wanton burrow
solenoid engine as breaking in machine hmmmmmmm
raven fulcrum
does anyone know where i can find custom led profiles for the anne pro keyboard
rigid valve
LMAO BRUH
"But but but HK gaming is doing right thing by not gatekeeping behind gb"
and while this isn't wrong, would it really be that hard to pay the designer
stray compass
can’t wait for misaligned versions of pre misaligned legends
hkgaming meme
buy geekark
tight pulsar
sand igloo
are gateron red switches much quieter than mx blues?
rigid valve
Yes
sharp kindle
Lmaooo
wanton burrow
are gateron red switches much quieter than mx blues?
ofc coz no click jacket
lavish cosmos
Where can i buy the orochi v2 in black except razer site(they dont ship to my country)?
Amazon only sell white version
rigid valve
which country is your country
lavish cosmos
Israel
rigid valve
idk anything about vendors over there
lavish cosmos
They do sell it here but it is 100$ so I rather not buy it here
Will just wait for amazon to have black version i guess
hollow flower
I canceled my order for the DROP ENTR
I tried out a 60% in a store and realized I can just set my arrow keys to Fn+WASD
Any recommendations for good 60% keyboards under $150?
steep pelican
Any recommendations for good 60% keyboards under $150?
Bakeneko 60 I think is under 150 but just restocked so won’t for a minute. Keychron k12 maybe
rigid valve
come on what
steep pelican
Or kbd67 lite but wait list for that is huge
rigid valve
someone sent me a vid of his stock unlubed mx blues
and they friking thocked
in a 67lite
steep pelican
I want a custom aluminum plate for mine tbh
The pc is nice but it has a bit too much thocc, and I think I want a little bit more stiff experience
hollow flower
Bakeneko 60 I think is under 150 but just restocked so won’t for a minute. Keych...
That’s just the case tho
rigid valve
also hard to find in stock
timber ridge
i read the word thock too many times in last few messages
stray compass
thock????
rigid valve
thoooccc
timber ridge
carter pc vibes
thick tartan
you can go alot of diffenrent routes for a 60% keyboard. the problem is if theyre in stock
hollow flower
It’s a kit?
thick tartan
bakeneko is a kit yes
hollow flower
My life is a lie
That’s actually not bad then
I’m guessing I’ll also need key caps on top of the switches
sharp kindle
come on what
You literally crapped on me for leopold the other day
rigid valve
and?
oh bruh i rec'd leopold to alec one time thats crazy
i must be a disgusting hypocrite
steep pelican
That’s actually not bad then
There’s some 65% too but similarly they are OOS
timber ridge
You literally crapped on me for leopold the other day
thick thock leopold pbt keycaps
sharp kindle
I’m so done
gloomy berry
-_-
rigid valve
no
steep pelican
I have created the holy bobas
rigid valve
ayeee
how they feel?
hipyotech server is exploding since hes doing a joinathon so im busy fielding newcomers lol
steep pelican
Idk I’ve eating lunch then I’m going to go get my switch puller lol
rigid valve
whats for lunch
steep pelican
Tacos
rigid valve
nice
steep pelican
Just realized I’m not in hipyo server lol
steep pelican
Holy bobas are in
tight pulsar
thin boi pcb+some fr4 plates from a friend
timber ridge
half plate?
rigid valve
thin boi pcb+some fr4 plates from a friend
ooh nice
steep pelican
Huh for some reason the back space key gets stuck with a u4t or holy boba
tight pulsar
yeah got 2 half plates so i could make one into an iso compat one and just have a normal ansi one so if i messed up the iso one i'd still have a working one
hollow flower
Are GK61X kits any good?
rigid valve
they're okay
steep pelican
They are pretty meh I believe, north facing leds
rigid valve
i would get bm60 instead personally
rigid valve
They are pretty meh I believe, north facing leds
everything at that price is north facing but yes
unless you literally just buy a dz60 pcb and use that
do what squashy did and put it in a shoebox
hollow flower
What exactly is the difference between the bm60 and gk61x other than the LEDs
and would it be a good match for say halo trues?
Im probably going to buy the halo trues for now and later down the line turn them into holy bobas
rigid valve
gk has a lot of ping and hollow sound
my cousin has one
its just
eek
bm60 takes longer to ship but more value imo
rigid valve
yeah
hollow flower
How do i buy from them?
hollow flower
Im on their website but theres no option to check out
rigid valve
I'm not sure
but do remember you were looking for XDA
i think mistel only makes a couple oem sets though
taihao might have some
idk much about them
hollow flower
Ahh ok
rigid valve
so ive asked around
and in terms of XDA caps basically the stuff off amazon
i did get one specific rec
which is these https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32893869108.html
page is in german btw
hollow flower
That’s fine I can understand it
Is there anywhere else I could get them other than Ali express?
rigid valve
idk
hollow flower
Actually I think I’ll just go for some standard key caps set, it’ll be a lot easier to find
steep pelican
Actually I think I’ll just go for some standard key caps set, it’ll be a lot eas...
theres tons of xda on amazon for around 30 bucks
rigid valve
are they good though is the qeustion
steep pelican
probably mediocre
stray compass
my friend got a katakana subs version of those
they were… decent
the legends were poorly dye subbed in many sections and the bottom of the keys was uneven in some places, but at a glance they’re pretty good
if my np crayon set is a 10 to compare, those are a solid 6-7
deft heart
I have a model 0 wireless and all a sudden when I left click once or right click once both click buttons click
So basically one click makes left and right click go off
I can send a video in dms to anyone who can help
hollow flower
theres tons of xda on amazon for around 30 bucks
Can’t find any in black
steep pelican
I have a model 0 wireless and all a sudden when I left click once or right click...
email glorious support, the model o has terrible quality control
rigid valve
^^^
thick tartan
Huh for some reason the back space key gets stuck with a u4t or holy boba
could be your keycaps
i had that issue with my space bar which disgusting
was*
steep pelican
could be your keycaps
It’s weird, worked with all my other switches I’ve tried but not u4t or holy boba. I ended up putin a polia with boba stem back in
queen sigil
@steep pelican loosen ur plate screws and check if keycap is warped
thick tartan
also if you have any sound foam/ packing foam in your board it could also be cause its really tightly packed against your pcb atleast thats what my issue was
i fixed it by doing what leyo said
steep pelican
And that would prevent the switch from going back up?
sturdy sinew
fethead inline preamp any good?
sturdy sinew
I've been thinking about picking up the rode procaster again/ sm58
does the sm58 require a fethead/cloudlifter?
west hornet
you can do without one, depends how far you are to the mic but the sm58 holds up pretty well on it's own
west hornet
just the standard xlr interface, post processing not needed imo unless maybe you are doing a recording for something specific
maiden current
deathadder v2 or model d?
rigid valve
Deadadder imo
maiden current
aight
sturdy sinew
just the standard xlr interface, post processing not needed imo unless maybe you...
same with the procaster?
west hornet
ye
west hornet
ye, eq, compressors, limiters, etc
timber ridge
wonder if they kept the brass weight
thick tartan
i hope
would be nice
i wondering more about the options for the case and plate though
wanton burrow
there's already q2 btw
same board but the f-row was removed 
if they'll make 1800 layout on their q lineup at least don't just put numpad on the q1
thick tartan
lmfao
sturdy sinew
question what are good headphones around 250-300 dollars for audiophile I have dt 770 pro's rn and looking for a upgrade
hollow flower
The sennheiser HD600s are really good
I’ve been using them for a while now for recording
hollow flower
question what are good headphones around 250-300 dollars for audiophile I have d...
Also do you want open or closed back headphones?
rigid valve
For open backs def get HD600 or 650
For closed backs uhhhh…
There’s got to be good closed-backs at 300 but idk any of them
sly warren
question what are good headphones around 250-300 dollars for audiophile I have d...
Do you have an Amplifier or DAC?
hollow flower
If he has DT770s I assume he does
Closed backs I’m not really sure about good ones 250-300, I know a couple that are 400 that are really good if you have the extra 100 to spend
rigid valve
I feel like K371s would still be solid rec at 300 tbh
hollow flower
Those being the Monolith M1060C and Shure SRH1540
hollow flower
I feel like K371s would still be solid rec at 300 tbh
Those are about $150
rigid valve
Yeah ik that’s the point
There are very few good closedback headphones between 150 and 400-500
queen sigil
gmmkpro isnt exactally thocky
rigid valve
^
sturdy sinew
Do you have an Amplifier or DAC?
I have a syba sonic amp and dac I believe
rigid valve
What’s syba
Never heard lol
sturdy sinew
Also do you want open or closed back headphones?
I have open back now but I might try out open
I found from a random frank p video
It’s like 50 bucks on Amazon
sturdy sinew
I am interested when the name is “schiit”
hollow flower
Yeah they’re the schiit
hollow flower
I hope that doesn’t break the rules for bypassing the bot
rigid valve
Yeah they’re the schiit
I wonder if nachos will pin this
rigid valve
I hope that doesn’t break the rules for bypassing the bot
Well technically since it’s a pun I think ur fine
hollow flower
I’ve finally decided on my build, BM60 kit off of kprepublic, U4Ts, and Mistel key caps
All for just about $150
steep pelican
gmmkpro isnt exactally thocky
i dont have gmmk pro
rigid valve
I’ve finally decided on my build, BM60 kit off of kprepublic, U4Ts, and Mistel k...
Sounds good
Have fun
rigid valve
Idk much about open-backs
sturdy sinew
yup
sturdy sinew
here
Its usually mics for me
I asked about headphones a while ago and then settled for the dt 770's
now wanting a upgrade
sturdy sinew
alright my fault I have been running around ever since I woke up
I'll check them out
hollow flower
All good I feel that
steep pelican
https://kprepublic.com/products/bm60-rgb-poker-60-gh60-hot-swap-custom-mechanica...
personally id buy kit 2 the one without stabs then buy durock or everglide stabs
hollow flower
Wdym mod?
sly warren
I have a syba sonic amp and dac I believe
You should probably get a Meizu Dongle to replace that.
sly warren
Open backs like I said before Sennheiser HD 600
They can be good. But they also don't have a great soundstage for being openback
nocturne timber
Hi. Looks like someone was just talking keyboards. I'm looking for the closest approximation to a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 that I can find and not having any luck after stabbing around too many "best alternative" lists that are full of flat keyboards. Hayulp, please!
steep pelican
Hi. Looks like someone was just talking keyboards. I'm looking for the closest a...
theres a bunch of custom ergo keyboards but they are really expensive
rigid valve
Reviung39 but that’s gone
That GB was long time ago
There’s YMDK Wings which is a 40% columnar stagger ergodox
tight pulsar
if you’re willing to pay for a nice keyboard iris/ergodox ez are nice
ah wait those are ortholinear
nocturne timber
There’s YMDK Wings which is a 40% columnar stagger ergodox
Also, I need F keys and my main problem with Mikey's 'new and improved' ergonomic keyboards is that they seem built for tiny hands. I'm looking for a production tool. I've looked at YMDK, Ergodox, and Iris and they all look too small with too few rows of keys. I can't stray too farm from QWERTY because I regularly need to use keyboards other than my primary.
BTW, thanks very much for fast replies, DM4CU and @tight pulsar
tight pulsar
what part(s) of the microsoft did you like? there's a ton of different ergo boards from really cheap to really expensive, most are flat with the tenting in the middle if you like that, maybe look at a few lists such as these and see if you like any? https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-ergonomic-keyboards https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-ergonomic-keyboards/ (just a few off of google)
nocturne timber
what part(s) of the microsoft did you like? there's a ton of different ergo boar...
My favorite things were the size & shape, followed by the back & forward buttons right below the spacebar. I'm going to go ahead and give the Mikey Sculpt a try; they keys are clearly better separated than their plain Ergo and the detached number pad could be really nice for me. Cramazon are good about returns and I figure I'll try the Ergo K860 if the Sculpt isn't comfy enough. Thanks again and may the wee folk in the wired treat you kindly.
wraith roost
🤦♂️
I just realized the reason my color looked off on my portico case is because they sent a mint case and not terminal
rigid valve
Mint better imo
But that’s just TKC for ya
“Huh? Terminal? Green is green my dude.”
calm cobalt
I have an i5-9400f should i do 2000hz or 4000hz polling rate for my mouse
(it can go up to 8k)
glad yarrow
8k then
calm cobalt
wont that use up a lot of my cpu
glad yarrow
Cpu doesnt really matter for polling rate tbh
rigid valve
(it can go up to 8k)
8k
calm cobalt
ok thx
queen sigil
tkc moment is when the color they show pics of isnt the same color as what they send out
because they dont color match 
rigid valve
TKC hires a colorblind dude to organize the cases to ship based on the color the customer ordered
thick tartan
lmfao
gleaming pond
TKC hires a colorblind dude to organize the cases to ship based on the color the...
lmao
gleaming pond
I just realized the reason my color looked off on my portico case is because the...
I kinda like the contrast of the mint tho ngl
calm cobalt
Something I’d always thought was stupid was paying a bunch for a keyboard
What is different from a $60 mechanical razor keyboard compared to a $250 one with whatever switches are relevant
Are my clicks gonna be slightly more precise or what
queen sigil
how they feel look and sound
gleaming pond
^
calm cobalt
Well yes but is it that much of a difference gaming wise
I’m probably over thinking it
queen sigil
if how they feel effect how you game
calm cobalt
But
gleaming pond
the custom mech keyboard community is just spending tons of money on stuff you don't need
gleaming pond
Well yes but is it that much of a difference gaming wise
sometimes yes, but its not usually drastic
calm cobalt
I’ve had the same razor huntsman pro for 2+ years and was gonna want to know if it’s worth upgrading to one of the ducky like ones or whatever the keyboard community likes
Alright well
With the non mechanical ones can I just push it half way down
And in game it will not go full speed till it’s all the way done compared to a mechanical only having full speed and not moving at all
If that makes sense
tight pulsar
Something I’d always thought was stupid was paying a bunch for a keyboard
What...
why don’t people just build pc cases with carboard boxes
calm cobalt
A $60 razor keyboard is not a cardboard box
queen sigil
why don’t people just build pc cases with carboard boxes
because u cant flex cardboard to rich people
tight pulsar
an expensive case doesn’t make it run faster
gleaming pond
the keyboard community isn't about whether it helps you in game, most spend that much for a good sound, build, and feel
queen sigil
ive done my best on osu with a razer keyboard
wraith roost
an expensive case doesn’t make it run faster
An expensive watch tells the same time as a cheap one
But I’d rather have a Rolex than a timex
daring zenith
Note : been modding my keychron K8's stabs, they don't come pre-clipped, needs clipping, and the lubing job it came with is a bit lacking, mainly, the 'bend' in the wire is completely devoid of lube, I added some there, and in the end, it comes out sounding decent to me, but the space bar is still a bit rattle-y, tried to kinda bandaid mod, didn't help much, seems to be just the stabs are bad.
sturdy sinew
They can be good. But they also don't have a great soundstage for being openback
What would you recommend for open back for around 300
thick tartan
Note : been modding my keychron K8's stabs, they don't come pre-clipped, needs c...
are you doing the holee bandaid mod or the one where u have it on your plate/pcb
razer keyboards
sly warren
What would you recommend for open back for around 300
HD560S from Sennheiser
daring zenith
are you doing the holee bandaid mod or the one where u have it on your plate/pcb
Plate/pcb
thick tartan
try puting 2 layers on top of each other and also make sure if you clipped your stabs that its flush and doesnt have any etra plastic on it
that could be a reason
other than that the only thing i can think of is u didnt lube the wire too much or yeah they could be bad. lots of factors LOL
daring zenith
I could try holee mod
But since the stem(?) of the stab seems pretty loose from the housing(?) Of the stab, I'm guessing just bad stab
thick tartan
ye
just becareful u cut the bandaid so its not hitting the walls of the housin(?) cause itll make your stab mushy
for my first time doing stabs im swearing by using only krytox for lubing my wires
grease is just no thank you
daring zenith
(I'm using 205g0 for literally everything so yea)
Maybe it's just not enough lube too
queen sigil
insert housing and wire
daring zenith
Actually I'll just mess around with it more
thick tartan
i messed with my stabs at 3am and it took me 3 hours to finish messing with them LOL
daring zenith
Heh
daring zenith
Finally finished putting it back together, lubed like 20 more switches, now more than half way through lubing all my switches I believe
rigid valve
Oooooooh
daring zenith
Oooooooh
Was kinda annoying getting factory oil off but now that I use isopropyl alcohol wipes, much easier to work with rather than trying to wash them
rigid valve
Nice
thick tartan
aw crap
dont remind me
my splits are coming in soon and theyre factory lubed im pretty sure
rigid valve
Maybe they are just another smooth linear
But get this
they’re in stock
And like .55 or .6 each iirc
If you get a pack of 70
Pack of 10 is like .9 each
odd sable
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k12-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39299048144985 good?
thick tartan
they sound so muted tho
rigid valve
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k12-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?vari...
Good
odd sable
scale 1-10
thick tartan
7
odd sable
pros and cons?
rigid valve
Gimme a sec
rigid valve
yea dude these sounds so muted
I don’t think it’s the switch tbh
thick tartan
guess this guys board just blows
odd sable
and also what are some recommendations for 60% keyboards? budget is like $130 usd
thick tartan
hmm
idk they sound like hippos too
which isnt a good thing imo they dont seem that great
rigid valve
So pros of Keychron K12:
Mac compatibility
Hotswap
Comes with Gateron and not like Outemu or sum
Wireless
RGB
Option for aluminum Case
odd sable
mhm
rigid valve
Cons of Keychron k12:
Some ppl say Keychrons are super tall
Wireless can be spotty
Cable on the side (preference personally I dig it a ton)
The rest of the cons are stuff that you would expect from a sub 100 prebuilt
Eg. Not so good stabs or caps
odd sable
Main problem i have with it is wireless and wireless isnt always the best
rigid valve
It has a wired option tho
thick tartan
you dont need to use the wireless
rigid valve
With a type-c port
odd sable
Oh ok
thick tartan
ye its wired
odd sable
Also what are some good switches
odd sable
well it has multiple choices
thick tartan
are u a tactile or linear
rigid valve
To get with the K12?
thick tartan
kind of person
rigid valve
Get the gaterons
rigid valve
Ah
thick tartan
oop
rigid valve
Linear usually a safer starter choice
thick tartan
do u like smashing your keys
thick tartan
or do u like them being soft
thick tartan
then go linear
odd sable
i like the sound of gateron reds
thick tartan
do u like clicky or quiet
odd sable
I dont like super clicky keys
thick tartan
then reds
odd sable
Ok
thick tartan
mhm
thick tartan
npnp
ye since ur budget is 130
just grab the board with reds
anf get urself some nice keycaps
rigid valve
I would grab the k12 with reds and maybe some tactiles or keycaps
odd sable
ya
thick tartan
a general rule of thumb for keycaps
odd sable
also any of you notice they changed the font?
thick tartan
if its like 30 bucks its probably trash
odd sable
also any of you notice they changed the font?
small discord changes
rigid valve
Except YMDK and Akko which are decent
And HK Gaming but personally I don’t choose to support them, refusing to recognize the original designer and such
thick tartan
^
daring zenith
Crappy sound test again, now with more things lubed
This is the before lubing stuff video, main thing is spacebar sounds more stoopid before
thick tartan
thock, thock, thock, thock.
daring zenith
No foam, tried foam last time, pushed too hard on PCB and did weird things, without much effect on sound
wanton burrow
ah
perhaps silicon mold or stupidfish foam
or just bunch of stacked 2mm foams so u can increase and decrease
wanton burrow
ah
daring zenith
I placed foam between case and pcb, maybe I should try between PCB and plate..?
daring zenith
Yea they're decent caps but by no means good
daring zenith
Hm?
thick tartan
ye zip n fit
personally i just used packing foam that came with my halo trues awhile back decided to save it for future modding
packing foam slaps
dont judge my scuffed keycaps
daring zenith
Weird foam
wanton burrow
do u get electrocuted when u test a pcb with tweezers with no esd coating?
wanton burrow
ok ic
arctic lichen
I'm looking for a wireless gaming headset for 160€ max, what would be the best wireless headset in that price range? Tbh I'm not that much into steelseries headsets but if they're the best I might consider them
arctic lichen
Also I don't need the mic since I have a standalone mic
maiden current
razer viper mini or razer deathadder v2 mini
steep pelican
razer viper mini or razer deathadder v2 mini
Those are mice lol
steep pelican
I'm looking for a wireless gaming headset for 160€ max, what would be the best w...
- Gaming headsets are absolute garbage sound quality and if you don’t need the mic no reason to get one
- Does it have to be wireless since you can get really nice headphones with that budget, it’s just that those quality headphones aren’t wireless because sound quality of wireless headphones will be much worse than their wired equivalent
arctic lichen
1. Gaming headsets are absolute garbage sound quality and if you don’t need the ...
I rather just buy a wireless pair of gaming headphones since I've never had a pair of "audiophile" headphones, so I don't mind not having the experience of them cos wireless is a requirement for me rn
steep pelican
I rather just buy a wireless pair of gaming headphones since I've never had a pa...
Well I’m not the expert on headphones in this server but I think there’s one wireless, way better than gaming headset headphones that could work for you and your budget
steep pelican
U mean the audio technica wireless gamimg heaphones
steep pelican
How else do you do wireless 😐
steep pelican
I’m pretty sure it’s fine for gaming
arctic lichen
I've tried Bluetooth headphones for gaming in the past and let me tell u, at least in my experience it's absolute garbage
steep pelican
But these are studio headphones, so they try to minimize delay as much as possible
And even 2.4 ghz wifi will have more delay than a wired cable
arctic lichen
Yes but the new ones are way better
steep pelican
I mean if you want to go ahead and get a headset that sounds about the same quality as free airplane earbuds it’s your choice I guess
arctic lichen
And for example the new hyperx cloud 2 wireless is almost identical in the name of sound quality (compared to the wired one) and latency isn't a problem either
And I've used a wireless gaming mouse for gaming over a year now and can't tell the difference between wired and that
steep pelican
Mice is different
arctic lichen
But they use the same connection type
steep pelican
Okay whatever, I don’t think I can convince you to get good headphones so basically it’s your pick of whatever gaming headphones you want
arctic lichen
All the wireless gaming peripherals use 2.4 GHz wifi connection
steep pelican
Xbox controllers be like
arctic lichen
Okay whatever, I don’t think I can convince you to get good headphones so basica...
I'm not trying to deny u, I'm just trying to tell u what I know about wireless and "gaming" headphones
And I do know that actual headphones have a drastically better sound quality but the problem is that they're not wireless
And I used wireless headphones once, changed back to wired and now regret it
But if u wanna give me a few suggestions I would love to hear them and I'll give a thought about if I really need a wireless pair of headphones
steep pelican
But if u wanna give me a few suggestions I would love to hear them and I'll give...
You want suggestions for wired headphones?
arctic lichen
Yeah
steep pelican
Rip I am not the expert in headphones so might have to ping the resident expert
I know a bit
@rigid valve headphones suggestions for 160€
steep pelican
Uhh for closed back it’s probably the non Bluetooth version of the k371
steep pelican
For open backs, which have wider sound stage and sound but bleed audio out into the environment a bit and you can hear stuff around you more, BeyerDynamic DT880
arctic lichen
Got it 
steep pelican
How 'bout the ath m50x
They look decent, I’d maybe try to find a review of them by a YouTuber who also reviewed k371 to get their verdict of which is better
rigid valve
How 'bout the ath m50x
No
Skiptrace has reported that m50x literally only has left and right sound
No directional sound
For wired closed back def K371s
For wired open back prob DT880 or 990
Sorry I’m late slept in way too long
arctic lichen
For wired closed back def K371s
If I was to buy the K371s would I need a amp or dac?
gloomy berry
I've got K371's with a iFi Zen Dac
I like
They aren't bass heavy and are neutral
Good in games as well
rigid valve
What would be a good dac?
Zen Dac is $120
Schiit Fulla is $100 iirc
Schiit Modi is like 80 or 90
I would pick one of those personally
arctic lichen
I'll take a look at all of those
steep pelican
Skiptrace has reported that m50x literally only has left and right sound
My dad has m50x for producing I think
rigid valve
M50X good for prod most type of music since they don’t have to be atmospheric
Usually just mono
hollow flower
How 'bout the ath m50x
They get pretty uncomfortable after having them on for a bit
And the sound quality isn’t really that good
gleaming pond
tbh I'd get beyer dt770s instead of m50x's
calm cobalt
what are some good keyboards under 70 dollars? asking for my friend. I recommended the k2 but the 70 dollar version is only on the seller site (which has 20 bucks more for shipping)
at or under 70 dollars is cool*
rigid valve
What size?
calm cobalt
60-65%
rigid valve
Rk61 or Rk68, could also get Gk64 for a 60% with arrow keys.
Womier/Gamakay K61 or K66 for RGB
Gk61 is fine but can be pingy and hollow
So can Gk64 actually
calm cobalt
great thanks
i currently have the k2 which i like, but my friend just didnt wanna pay that much
gleaming matrix
Anyone here have a cosair K60?
queen sigil
corsair keyboards aint value
gleaming matrix
for some reason my "W' key only activates once
like when I hold down the key it'll type two 'W's' one for when the keyboard is down and another when it is going back up
any ideas as to why it'd be happening?
daring zenith
Other keys work fine?
tight pulsar
probably leaf chatter/bad solder joint
also hex6c turned out great might try to grab an extra
gleaming matrix
Other keys work fine?
Yeah all other keys are fine
daring zenith
Probably what nachos is saying then
gleaming matrix
so do I have to rma it?
daring zenith
It feels weird to be typing on this after more of the keys are lubed :P
gleaming matrix
only bought it maybe a month ago
gleaming matrix
that sucks wtf corsair, had a keyboard for over a decade and it ain't never have a problem. I buy a new keyboard and the 'w' key freaks out after a month
daring zenith
¯_(ツ)_/¯
queen sigil
cosair keyboards aint exactally good
gleaming matrix
but I mean failing in less than a month lol?
sand igloo
how's this monitor? curved VA panel, 1440p 144hz for 250
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084CYSSBG/ref=
daring zenith
Viotek is viotek, wouldn't expect anything good for pixel response or color accuracy or any of that
wanton wagon
Looking for a cheap monitor that has a lot of HDMI ports, or any port in general
anyone know any?
wanton wagon
Friend needs a monitor which can have his PC, ps4, and switch connected but on a tightish budget
Or just two of the 3
Only ones I can find are pretty expensive
daring zenith
kvm switch
sly warren
Just buy an HDMI Switch...
Or... like a normal human being just... switch the cables.
It's not like you are going to be playing the PC, and then be like "I want to drop everything RIGHT NOW and play on my PS4 or Switch"
west hornet
There are few kvm switch monitors around. Id say just get a hdmi or kvm switch depending on needs. I rarely see any monitors or tvs with more than 2 hdmi
devout fiber
ayo do you guys know where i can buy 3 whole gateron black switches lol
tight pulsar
mechmarket
steep pelican
m27Q has a kvm switch
Not the same type
It only has 1 hdmi port afaik
I could be remembering incorrectly
little crater
also hex6c turned out great might try to grab an extra
i like
steep pelican
M27q has 2 hdmi ports and a dp port
Oh I’m dumb, yeah you could have ps4 and switch in hdmi and then pc in the dp
prime notch
I have a plan to upgrade a keyboard that has a hot swap pcb with new key caps and new switches
What keyboard do you recommend i leaning towards a gammakay/wormier k66 hot swap edition
steep pelican
I have a plan to upgrade a keyboard that has a hot swap pcb with new key caps an...
Keychron c1/c2 off Amazon is good
rigid valve
I have a plan to upgrade a keyboard that has a hot swap pcb with new key caps an...
What's your budget and what size do you want
prime notch
What's your budget and what size do you want
around 70-90$ for the keyboard i plan to get the akko rosey reds switches as they are great and cheap
prime notch
Keychron c1/c2 off Amazon is good
Oh woah seems great
prime notch
oh ok thx
steep pelican
around 70-90$ for the keyboard i plan to get the akko rosey reds switches as the...
Akko switches are nice especially if you don’t want to lube them
I’d recommend gat yellows for deeper sound if you do want to lube tbh
rigid valve
this is true
prime notch
I’d recommend gat yellows for deeper sound if you do want to lube tbh
dont wanna lube
so yea ill go with akko
rigid valve
Networking question once again:
So i found the "hub". It's a box in a closet with a bunch of 5e cables that have been cut, as well as other cables for sound or television or something
what do i do now?
rigid valve
So i found the "hub". It's a box in a closet with a bunch of 5e cables that have...
by "cut" i literally mean cut. i can see all the little wires inside the sheath
the biggest forseeable problem i have with this is that there's no outlets in the closet to power a switch or gateway
sweet ore
... so they had the house all wired. I'm guessing whoever lived there before was kicked out and they cut the cables out of spite when they left.
sweet ore
Upside is you have the wall jacks all in place. You'd just have to run new cables.
rigid valve
I'm not sure if you and I are visualizing the same thing.
it's literally a box in the wall with the ends of the cables
there are no jacks in there
rigid valve
Upside is you have the wall jacks all in place. You'd just have to run new cable...
oh im so stupid
sorry
sorry
i thought you said "upside is you have all the wall jacks in 1 place"
🧠
sweet ore
I wonder if the builders cut them on purpose or if somebody was really incompetent and sliced the cables accidentally.
rigid valve
I feel like there's a purpose to that because i was talking to one of my uncles and he said that it's entirely possible that the cables are snipped.
But i never asked for specifics on that.
sweet ore
I'm just wondering why. A house that's fully wired for Ethernet is more valuable
But like I said, the jacks being there is still good. Even if you'd have to run new lines to replace the cut ones. Still a heck of a lot easier than having to do it from scratch. (My house well predates the Internet, so we have no convenient jacks.)
rigid valve
oh rip
rigid valve
But yeah if anyone has some help as to what I’m supposed to do with a bunch of cat5e wire ends it would be so greatly appreciated
gloomy berry
As in how to terminate them?
rigid valve
How to make them connect or something
gloomy berry
With a wall plate or the male ends?
rigid valve
So i found the "hub". It's a box in a closet with a bunch of 5e cables that have...
Need help with this
gloomy berry
ahhhh
is there enough of the cable left to have them go into a switch or router?
If you terminate them?
gloomy berry
Trying to find some parts that are reasonable
rigid valve
So, I do the stuff to make the cables actually have ends, then install a switch?
gloomy berry
Ya
rigid valve
Only the right image then?
gloomy berry
yes
rigid valve
Oh
gloomy berry
To have internet, yes
But
That also means
It could be in another room connected to a wall plate
rigid valve
Why would they put the office and the Ethernet box on opposite sides of the house
rigid valve
It could be in another room connected to a wall plate
Not sure if this matters at all but the cables aren’t daisy chained
You asked me to test that a while ago
gloomy berry
Don't have to be, that's why you need a switch in the box with all the cables
Switch is a dumb connection, IE it controls nothing
Think of a switch as a splitter
Like a fan hub
rigid valve
And one last small brain question
What do I do if the closet which contains the Ethernet box has no outlets for me to plug a switch into
gloomy berry
Hmmmm
rigid valve
Or maybe it does and I haven’t looked hard enough
gloomy berry
That will be an issue if there's no power in there
rigid valve
Or maybe it does and I haven’t looked hard enough
That’s probably more likely
Worst case scenario, I run an extension cord from across the hallway
Best case scenario, there is a wall outlet in the closet
Tysm Vintage!
gloomy berry
YW
I've run hundreds if not thousands of miles of CAT cable XD
Could do it in my sleep
rigid valve
lol
sturdy sinew
Thoughts on the hd 58x headphones?
fading needle
I need a lightweight mouse, what'd you suggest (keep it around $50-120)
thick tartan
I need a lightweight mouse, what'd you suggest (keep it around $50-120)
whats your grip
fading needle
whats your grip
fingertip
thick tartan
do you care about it being wired or no
fading needle
I prefer it wireless but it's ok if it's wired
thick tartan
nah its fine most of these have wireless counterparts
viper/viper mini, model o, g pro(too overpriced imo)
i personally use a g305 but i use every grip just depends on the mood
fading needle
viper is razer's right ?
thick tartan
yes
thick tartan
orochi is also a good one smaller than the g305 if u happen to come across it
ye npnp
wanton burrow
We postponed the pre-order release date to the end of July, and the shipping date to late August to implement all changes.
Pre-Order will be available at the end of July. Shipment is set for late August to match all the feedback we got!```
Ophiuchus#3530 has been warned
wanton burrow
wuut
wanton burrow
Barebone 139USD
Fully assembled with double shot ABS keycaps and switches 169USD.
That's entirely my fault; I simply messed up the exchange rate and just put 150€ as 150USD. We've now agreed to reduce the price Keychron originally requested for the barebone from 150USD to 139USD, and for the fully assembled from 179USD to 169USD bringing the fully assembled price closer to the original price I called out.
I'm really sorry for that and I know when people are angry about it but it was a honest mistake.```personally atleast
wanton burrow
well the price is vey compelling so idc
wanton burrow
Available plates are changed to PC, FR4 and Alu.
Badges are now available in matching colors for the keyboards.
Switches will be pre lubed by Gateron.
Keycaps for the fully assembled board are made out double shot ABS.
Used stabs are PCB stabs that are similar to Gateron Ink stabs. And Keychron is atm buying durocks and gmk stabs to check if they fit without any workaround.
USB part of the board is separated from the normal pcb so it won’t be affected by the flex.
A darker blue/navy blue will be an selectable option too for the case color.
Changing the bottom row 3x 1u to 2x 1.5u will be an option after the release of the first badge but nothing that will be available from the beginning.
Chips used are the Atmega32U4.
If there are any other questions or feedback please let me know and ping me in #lounge or anywhere :slight_smile:
Thanks and have a great start into the week```139 for the barebones kit
so lit
and that's the lowest it can get
knob i think adds $10 for the price and brass weight option still tba
thick tartan
100 for a knob
imagine
pretty nice unfortunately i already ordered my tofu
time for hamberger mod
sturdy sinew
hamburger
thick tartan
i purposely spelt it that way ty tho
wanton burrow
borgar
rigid valve
When shopping for an Ethernet switch, is the number of ports the primary feature I’m shopping for? As in, there are no “gimmick” features.
undone tide
any good deals on nice headphones/dac?
trying to transition from gaming headset
i got a wireless set but its on its last leg so i need to start looking for a better set up
rigid valve
Nothing good on Prime Day if that’s what you’re asking
However, we can still help
Do you have a budget, preferred sound signature, etc?
rigid valve
Nothing good on Prime Day if that’s what you’re asking
The best deals for peripherals on prime day I found were:
Approx. 50% off most Razer mice
Redragon K552 discount
Cooler master keyboards/mice discount
No audiophile stuff unfortunately
Well, not entirely true
Big deal on Sony ANC headphones, but I don’t know which are “good”
thick tartan
keychron boards are also like 20 bucks off too for prime day
found this and im interested
sand igloo
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MQBPMJ2/ref=
should i snag this acer nitro deal?
steep pelican
Looks decent
rigid valve
This is a stupid stupid question
But when people say Cat5e only supports gigabit over “short distances” how short are they talking? Like 10ft or 100ft?
rigid valve
Ok
agile lynx
This is a stupid stupid question
But when people say Cat5e only supports gigabit...
5e can handle gig up to 100m, however there is very little reason to buy it now over 6a, that is a better construction cable and has shielding.
rigid valve
Wait are you the guy from buildapc
agile lynx
panic....
rigid valve
5e can handle gig up to 100m, however there is very little reason to buy it now ...
And cat6a is backwards compatible with 5e
agile lynx
yes
rigid valve
Hm
agile lynx
rj45 ends, the only currently availible cat cable that doesnt come with rj45 ends is 7.
dont buy 7
agile lynx
and yea im from Buildapc, clicking through servers bored and found an interesting question.
rigid valve
Mhm
agile lynx
then use it 😄
agile lynx
6a then you cant grab the wrong one later if you upgrade.
rigid valve
That’s why I asked about 5e length since the distance is like 10 feet, if even
agile lynx
and its then end to end legnth that matters, including the wall run, most are installed to a spec that allows 2m on each end for patching.
undone tide
Nothing good on Prime Day if that’s what you’re asking
Probably around max 200$ for the headphones themselves. Dac or amp could be fit in later
rigid valve
Do you want open back or closed back
open-back headphones have a mesh back which allows for a much better soundstage and better imaging but leaks sound into your surroundings and does not isolate you as much. Recommended if you're going to be using them alone, but not for public use or in a loud area
closed-back headphones have a plastic or metal back which leaves less opportunity for soundstaging but isolates you much better. They also heat up your ears after extended use
usually anywhere from 1-4 hours depending on the person, headphones, and environment
undone tide
Anytime ill be gaming my set up is in the living room so tv will be a possible interference so most likely closed back
rigid valve
oops i mistyped 6 and 7
my apologies
K361s are great as well though
they use the same drivers
my understanding is just that they're tuned differently
steep pelican
Check for a deal on K371
undone tide
So k371 vs dt 770 pro. Bass isnt a big deal for me but if it makes it more immersive maybe
undone tide
I dont really have a standard yet especially since ive been using a wireless gaming headset for a year
gloomy berry
K371's are clear and very neutral
rigid valve
^
gloomy berry
But not a lot of bass without a DAC/Amp
It's great for games
but if you like Bass then DT770's
undone tide
Are there dacs or amps that are good pairing with headsets AND mics?
rigid valve
um
there are dacs with mic in
not very many, but they exist
the first one that comes to mind is the Schiit Fulla
which is $110
the Schiit Hel is also there, but comes in at a hefty $200
undone tide
Would i be better off getting a separate module for the mic then?
rigid valve
Not necessarily, especially if budget is a primary factor
the Fulla is a good dac, i know some guys who are more than satisfied with it
there are obviously other dacs with mic in
i just can't think of them rn
gloomy berry
yeah, I'd recommend starting with the Schitt line
undone tide
Do the k371s have 1/4 or 1/8 jack
undone tide
Its got an adapter included i think
undone tide
Now that that's decided, mic. Nothing too crazy but something that's decent
rigid valve
What's your budget?
gleaming matrix
best mechanical keyboard around 100$? I like full size
rigid valve
best mechanical keyboard around 100$? I like full size
Keychron C2
undone tide
Probably 200 or lower
undone tide
I know mics get expensive lol but i was thinking probably just a blue yeti tbh
gleaming matrix
are non full sized keyboard cheaper?
rigid valve
You can get cheaper stuff, but under 100 it's all p similar
wanton burrow
said around, not rly under lol
undone tide
Leopold good i got one of the fcs but i just dont like that the board is inset. Lost of gunk and hard to clean
Lots*
So im thinking the at2020
rigid valve
at2020 seems very popular
wanton burrow
huh?
rigid valve
mics
wanton burrow
u can just disassmble it to clean it easier lol
neon quartzBOT
Ophiuchus#3530 has been warned
wanton burrow
oop
but yea i just meant the thing about the leopold but
i know zero stuff about qudio equipements lol
rigid valve
so
wondering about gigabit-compatible switches that I could turn on, set up, and leave in a closet with minimal maintenance
rn eyeing the Netgear GS308 bc it seems small, simple, and robust
hollow flower
What’s the difference between the RK61 and BM60?
rigid valve
The BM60 supports PCB screw in stabs, it does not come with keycaps, and has the option to come as a kit without switches and stabs. It's also like $25 more expensive. It will likely take longer to ship from kprepublic as well.
Both have north-facing LEDs
There's probably some other stuff that I am overlooking
Oh, only the new Rk61 models are hotswap
all bm60 kits from kprepublic are hotswap
hollow flower
I’m thinking of canceling my BM60 and getting an RK61 instead since I’d get it within a couple days instead of a month and I’d be saving about 50 because I wouldn’t need to buy Keycaps
I’d still be replacing switches with bobas tho
hollow flower
And eventually the stabs later down the line
agile lynx
I have the bm60. recomend getting the plate with it, because not does not end well, getting ones that fit is.... interesting
@hollow flower
hollow flower
How much would the plate cost if I was to buy one?