peripherals-and-displays

[west hornet]

What is dots mean

[stray compass]

GMK dots

but with hirigana subs

[west hornet]

Ow

[daring zenith]

oh interesting

[subtle pewter]

@daring zenith does the C2 have a backlight

[stray compass]

there's an option for it

[subtle pewter]

Ok

[stray compass]

rgb or white

[daring zenith]

one version has white backlight, other has rgb

[stray compass]

$10 difference iirc

[daring zenith]

ye

[stray compass]

the white backlight aint bad tbh

[daring zenith]

yea, I usually just do white backlight on mine xD

[stray compass]

its somewhat pure in my experience

[subtle pewter]

I would do RGB just because I adjust the white temperature of my lights all day

[daring zenith]

it looks a bit blue-ish but ye

[subtle pewter]

My uncle has a keychron (forgot which) with Gskill crystal caps and gat blues

[daring zenith]

I still can't imagine using something like GMK dots without any legends

my brain too smol

[stray compass]

touch typing go brrrr

[subtle pewter]

@daring zenith ok, I think I can do the C2 and the switches, and then macro board later

[stray compass]

good choice

[subtle pewter]

And what switches would be recommend?

I like clicky

[stray compass]

browns out of the 3 stock ones

[daring zenith]

akko cs ocean blues to start off maybe

[subtle pewter]

Crops and clicky

[stray compass]

box pinks for clicky

crops?

[daring zenith]

wouldn't it be box white for clicky?

or box jade

[subtle pewter]

(I prefer the gat blues to the gat browns personally

[stray compass]

both work, isn't box white just a bit heavier

yeah and thats fine

[subtle pewter]

How heavy is white?

[glad yarrow]

Got my G402

[stray compass]

i honestly dont remember lol

[glad yarrow]

initial impression is its a very nice mouse

[stray compass]

i just know it goes pink > white > navy > jade

[timber ridge]

iirc pinks were the lightest

[stray compass]

heavier springs and bigger clickbars

[timber ridge]

i cant remember if jades or navies or the heaviest

[daring zenith]

there we go

[subtle pewter]

I would prefer something with a thicker stem if possible because I like his sturdy these Logitech switches are because they have such a thick stem. There is very little diflection

[daring zenith]

look at box stems lel

[wanton burrow]

kek

[subtle pewter]

I just realized why my wifi is so bad lmfao

[sly warren]

I mean, that's just how Cherry Style switches do. You can get Box Stems that are more stable. But, Cherry Switches are still quite stable.

[wanton burrow]

well thick = no stem wobble lol

[daring zenith]

ye

[wanton burrow]

get some ktt switches like akko cs

[daring zenith]

but there could also just be wobble from bad plate or smth

[wanton burrow]

it's tight af

[subtle pewter]

Yeah, the ones on the logo are really thick, and realllyyy study feeling

*logi

[daring zenith]

is there any clicky akko cs switches?

ocean blue is tactile

[subtle pewter]

I would love a supppeerrr defined tactile response

Like press press press CLICK

[daring zenith]

soo sharp tactile

[wanton burrow]

white, crystel jade/jade, crystal navy/navy yes

[subtle pewter]

Not sure how to describe it

[daring zenith]

aight

[wanton burrow]

for got the other box clickies

but many are good as i see

[daring zenith]

there's like sharp and smooth tactile bumps, I assume you want sharp

[subtle pewter]

Yes

[wanton burrow]

profound bump? prob a holy franken idk

but not cheap

[daring zenith]

how's the bump on ocean blue?

[wanton burrow]

o perhaps some u4t

[subtle pewter]

I love the sound of gat blues, just as a little extra tip

[daring zenith]

where's my crappy clip of me typing on t1s again....

[subtle pewter]

The gat blues are crispity

Sounding

[wanton burrow]

i think it's like a weak tactility. around the not enough one ig

[daring zenith]

fair

[wanton burrow]

dark amber T1s

[subtle pewter]

One thing that is an absolute no for me is low profile switches, or linear switches

Those are 100% nos from me

[daring zenith]

dark amber? is it just different color housing...?

[subtle pewter]

I'm trusting you guys to push me in the right direction >.>

[daring zenith]

crappy video, actually sounds less loud irl, but t1s

[subtle pewter]

It'sa lodin

I prefer a shaper, higher sound

Personally

[daring zenith]

so clicky bois

[subtle pewter]

Yessir

Love the sound of gat blues

Like a mouse click

[daring zenith]

found random sound test for box white:
https://youtu.be/6RdXnXWV8SQ

[subtle pewter]

Those are nice, but I feel like I like even crisper if possible personally

White does sound nice tho

https://youtu.be/otW25orfSOc

I really like this pitch personally

[timber ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ez6b5d/phoenix_aristotle_clone_stem_sound_comparison/

[daring zenith]

this sound be decent pheonix sound test
https://youtu.be/ZlmAtBAz2SE?t=511

but I guess lance got there first

[timber ridge]

😎

[daring zenith]

anyways, sound tests aren't always representative of the end product, so take videos with a grain of salt.

[timber ridge]

yup

[subtle pewter]

I still feel like the Phoenix's aren't as crisp as I am feeling

Is there anything sharper?

[timber ridge]

id go with box switches

[daring zenith]

@wanton burrow know any sharper sounding clickies?

[subtle pewter]

The only ones I know are gat blues, but I know those are like beginner switches

My uncle's gat blues are piercing

Idk if it's because of his caps, but they are soooo sharp

I love it

[daring zenith]

ye, keycap and board can change the sound of the keys a good bit

same switch, different board and keycap, can sound drastically differently on bottom out

[wanton burrow]

technically a recolor but it's full nylon housing t1

[wanton burrow]

boxes ngl

[daring zenith]

same spring stem and leaf?

huh

[wanton burrow]

not sure about the leaf but maybe

[daring zenith]

does it sound differently?

[timber ridge]

most def

full nylon housing op

[daring zenith]

huh

[wanton burrow]

ofc it will but i can't find sound tests anywhere

[daring zenith]

sad

[timber ridge]

join me and make frankensteins

[daring zenith]

I want more and more peripheral things the longer I stay in this channel

[timber ridge]

im making holy t1s with maybe boba tops

[daring zenith]

lol what

[wanton burrow]

get mx browned

[daring zenith]

t1 stem with holy housing?

:(

[wanton burrow]

idrk

[daring zenith]

I still want to buy a schiit stack and he-x4

[timber ridge]

opposite

[daring zenith]

ah

[wanton burrow]

most "holy" frankens is halo true stem in sometihng something housing

[timber ridge]

its more tactile than norm t1s

[wanton burrow]

fr tho susboards and shoobs made me like mx browns

[timber ridge]

then i want boba tops to change the sound sig

[wanton burrow]

the good ol cherry pop

[subtle pewter]

I need to head to sleep guys, but if you guys have any ideas or anything, feel free to ping me or DM me. Thanks guys!

[daring zenith]

good night

[timber ridge]

@tight pulsar

almost forgot

[daring zenith]

y e s

[wanton burrow]

there's various box clickies out there

[timber ridge]

lowkey spending too much on kb stuff

especially since i needa pick up a laptop in the near future

[wanton burrow]

should be p cheap in some cases

[daring zenith]

spending more on peripherals is the way to go

:D

time to spend 300$ on a mice

[wanton burrow]

suggesting keyboard stuff while not having mkb

[daring zenith]

heh

[timber ridge]

i have 2 switches i wanna put in a board

so ima do 2 more builds maybe then hit endgame

[tight pulsar]

you just wanted boba top on t1 right

[timber ridge]

yea

[wanton burrow]

black booba u4t

[timber ridge]

holy bobas exist so ik i wont run into stem issues

im get pink tops lol

[daring zenith]

who knows

[wanton burrow]

somewhere in time i want to collect sp star kon momos coz too pretty

should be mine

will be mine

[timber ridge]

lowkey regretting not picking up crp tulip

maybe next drop il cop

[tight pulsar]

no it doesn't work for my t1, binding

[wanton burrow]

rn i'll just invest for bakeneko and kailh stemmed hg blacks

might cop the ones from ilumkb hoping for less shipping

https://tenor.com/view/omegalul-lul-lulw-twitch-emote-gif-13523263

[daring zenith]

lol

[timber ridge]

pain

[daring zenith]

I guess double shot abs is just being shot twice in the abs

[wanton burrow]

yes it is

only way to make good abs keycaps

i think u can't dyesub them

dunno how dyesub works but think it's not possible

[sly warren]

Doubleshot ABS is where there's 2 different ABS colors used.

[wanton burrow]

coz abs melting point is low af

[sly warren]

So, one for the main key, and one for the legend

[daring zenith]

(was making joke)

look at what I was quoting

[timber ridge]

really was hoping the boba tops would work, might jus try to get a dif top housing then

[sly warren]

Oh.

[rigid valve]

In a sense
Wouldn’t dyesub be tatoo
Since it’s just using heat to transfer the color

Tatoo*

Tattoo*

Tyeping 🧠

[tight pulsar]

2 and 3

[rigid valve]

I might pick up some blanks lowkey

Like jellies or something

For RGB

[timber ridge]

wait nachos do you have boba tops with the led slot?

apparently there is like slight differences between the tops

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[timber ridge]

gg

[wanton burrow]

[daring zenith]

What is that?

[timber ridge]

im debating if i should jus go all out and make holy bobas

[wanton burrow]

the dark ambers

[timber ridge]

and get rid of my t1s

[wanton burrow]

it's some pog recolor. looks so nice

also sp star kon momo and luminous cyber

[daring zenith]

Interesting

[rigid valve]

Go all all out and make Bykos

[timber ridge]

too much lol

[wanton burrow]

ktt strawberries too

pog looking switches

[tight pulsar]

hm pwner is joining kc team

should be interesting

[wanton burrow]

yep

[tight pulsar]

hopefully another xeno situation doesn't happen with him

[steep pelican]

This. I feel like I’m more knowledgeable about pc building and parts than a good portion of people yet not to the level of a techie. Also lots of other people in the same boat like Patovak and Ryan

[timber ridge]

welp, if any admin is reading maybe they can think about it lol

[steep pelican]

so close

if not heavy and/or tactile enough for me ill prob return and get t1s or bobas

[stray compass]

Ocean Blues so lit

[steep pelican]

@sly warren I have a question. Which mic would be best for a keyboard sound test

[sly warren]

Probably a Condenser mic.

It should be clearer and will pick up a wider array of sounds more easily.

[daring zenith]

I'm guessing like q2u would be good nuff

[sly warren]

Ehhh...

Q2U is a Dynamic

[steep pelican]

Okay I think I can identify one

I’m choosing from mics I have on hand

[sly warren]

Condensers pick up background noises and things like that easily.

[rigid valve]

what mics do u have on hand

[steep pelican]

Hmm let me see it’s going to take me a minute to list al of them

Peavey PVM 520i - Dynamic
MXL 603s
Peavey PVM 480
Audix CX-112
Audix OM-3xb
MXL 4000

There’s a couple more but there like instrument mics and ribbon mics @sly warren

[rigid valve]

hmm

[steep pelican]

MXL 603s

Audix OM-3bx

There’s a lot of background noise today so would dynamic be better

[rigid valve]

ok

[steep pelican]

MXL 4000 is a cool looking mic hmm

[rigid valve]

yuh

[steep pelican]

Might have to choose this for the flex

[rigid valve]

lmao

[steep pelican]

Has special shock mount too

Oops didn’t mean to send bottom one

[rigid valve]

that recording studio lowkey look like my uncle's

but not quite

but i must ask

is the an Apollo Twin DUO anywhere in that room

[steep pelican]

No

The preamp has phantom power

[rigid valve]

oh

ok

[steep pelican]

Fancy

[west hornet]

Ye condensor

Lol i havent seen a pre amp like that in long time

[mortal jacinth]

Anyone use a gyroscopic mouse?

[rigid valve]

nope

[mortal jacinth]

Everything is shaped like a tv remote. The closest I have seen to being a substitute mouse is a trackball thumb, and seems 50/50 in its manufacture

[rigid valve]

why not just uh

get an actual mouse

[mortal jacinth]

I have a mouse, and it is ineffective with my disability

[rigid valve]

ok

[mortal jacinth]

Numb hands from spinal trauma

[rigid valve]

but

you can type?

[mortal jacinth]

Everything if index finger. Left, right, middle clicks and scroll wheel all one finger

Thumb on my iphone

[rigid valve]

Ok

[mortal jacinth]

Typing on keyboard can’t be done passively. Still working on how to game with my left hand.

WASD movement has had many failures

[rigid valve]

Well
Can’t think of any mouse substitutes

[mortal jacinth]

Thinking about gluing rings on W, A, and D keys to keep my fingers on them

[rigid valve]

Maaaybe a trackpoint

[mortal jacinth]

I’m currently contemplating this workaround that lets Wiimotes work on Windows

I have tried Zoweetek’s gyroscopic mouse and some Ablenet peripherals at the rehab hospital, but most gyro mice are made for PowerPoint presentations.

I will drop it if it is a tv remote control design, but it is really nice. Just need to find something for gaming/long-term use.

[tight pulsar]

hm otd 356cl dge for 3k on mm

[steep pelican]

I understand tactiles now

[daring zenith]

How to understand tactile

[steep pelican]

I’ve never felt tactile but now I have

But now I need to know rounded tactile

These are sharp tactile

Also these are very high pitched lol

[tight pulsar]

okay guess who accidentally shipped an extra key with a set they sold

now i don't have a 2.25u left shift

[gleaming pond]

worstness' guide on how to understand the beauty of some tactile switches

[rigid valve]

Facts

[gleaming pond]

write a book and make it a series

[rigid valve]

WorstNess’s guide to Peripherlas

I would buy that

Dunno bout u

[gleaming pond]

how to understand a tactile, how to understand a clicky, how to understand a linear

and then for some of the most different switches

he can write

[rigid valve]

How to understand p r e f e r e n c e

[gleaming pond]

"how to understand a Kailh box jade"

[gleaming pond]

same

how to understand cherry mx and gateron blues aren't good switches

[rigid valve]

Cherry nylon housing tho

🤌

[gleaming pond]

yea

@steep pelican if you ever need some help creating your guide ask clem for help and if you need some illustration a 5 yr old can read dm me lmao

[rigid valve]

lmao

[subtle pewter]

@daring zenith

Did you guys figure out what I should get for my new keyboard?

After some much clearer thought, I think I might just end up going with the one that I was getting ready to order, just because I have typed on the Gateron Blues and browns, as well as cherry reds, blues, browns, and all of that and I like these switches waayyyyy more than all of the others

I like the idea of just having a clean, clear, simple product that is just working as intended out of the box if I am being honest

I'm sure there are better switches out there, but I don't wanna spend a ton of money finding out which ones I like. And I also don't really have the time to be doing all of this as well if I am being honest

[gleaming pond]

keychron c2

or womier K66/87

[stray compass]

i’d just grab a c1/c2 and then get a qmk macro pad since that seems to be a big priority

[steep pelican]

via is just too good, i dont think i can go back

[stray compass]

i think the one i have in mind is planning to have via as well

don't remember for sure though

[steep pelican]

tactiles are nice, but idk if its better than linear tho

i need to test more

[maiden current]

do y’all know any good 100% keyboards that are hot-swappable with rgb?

[daring zenith]

C2

[sly warren]

Keychron C2, excellent board overall.

[maiden current]

alr

[daring zenith]

@subtle pewter it's just that Gateron and Cherry switches are not really representative of the nice switches...

:(

[maiden current]

should i get reds, browns, or blues

im a tactile guy but i heard that browns are ass

[daring zenith]

Gat brown is ok

Cherry browns are the joke

[maiden current]

k

does it have software?

[subtle pewter]

I see

Would I be able to test some more exotic switches at a microcenter?

[steep pelican]

Probably not lol

[subtle pewter]

How would I be able to test more exotic switches then?

[steep pelican]

If you are tactile gang I would just go for it and get t1

Linear probably Akko cs rose reds or ks3 milky top yellows

[subtle pewter]

I'm clicky gang

or tactile

either would work

[steep pelican]

Clicky maybe outemu Phoenix

[subtle pewter]

absolute no on linear

[subtle pewter]

Not a big fan of the sound of those IMO

I like something a little crisper/higher

[steep pelican]

Probably box pinks or box whites

[subtle pewter]

Box whites are also lower in pitch than I would prefer if I am being honest

I don't hate the sound of phoenix, but they aren't my favorite

[steep pelican]

For tactile I like my akko cs ocean blues but a little high pitched for my taste tho you might like them

[subtle pewter]

I like the sound of my uncles keyboard. He has the Gateron blues with crystal key caps, and it makes them supppeerrrr sharp sounding

I like the sound of the ocean blues a lot

I am listening now

[steep pelican]

There’s a Frankemswitch (switch combo) with outemu sky blue and outemu dust proof blue, and apparently those are like the loudest clickiest switches

[subtle pewter]

I'm not interested in lubing, so I really like the sound of the oceans

I like the sound of the switches I have here

They are the Remo G tactiles, and i like the sound of them

[sly warren]

Well, Tactiles and Clickies don't really like being lubed.

[steep pelican]

Mmm these look kinda sick

[sly warren]

Clickies when Lubed just lose their clickyess

And improperly lubed Tactiles become Scratchy Linears

Linears need Lube though.

[wanton burrow]

i think that's the opposite

well, u don't get mx browns if u want a "tactile"

tho the cherry pop is still there so it still somehow makes it nice

tho yea it's also what the lightest light tactility is

[wanton burrow]

tactiles need em as well

just the thinner one

[timber ridge]

box switches clicks are a lot more crisp

[wanton burrow]

3203 go brrrrr

[wanton burrow]

box jades or box navy then

box whites have a thinner clickbar

jades and navy had them extra Thicc

[timber ridge]

very thick clicks

[wanton burrow]

perhaps pick them up on novelkeys if thats the only place to get the box crystal variants?

not sure about their difference with normal boxes tho

[wanton burrow]

use box jades instead and give it 600g spring

u now have urself some gigachad jades

[steep pelican]

Ahh I see

[wanton burrow]

forgot the reddit post about it

but it's some torture equipment

[rigid valve]

???

[sly warren]

Don't you ??? me

[rigid valve]

???

[sly warren]

Clickies literally become un-clicky if you lube them

[rigid valve]

Tactiles need lube just like linears do
Just don’t use the same lube

[rigid valve]

Mmmmmmm no

[sly warren]

mmmmm Yes.

[rigid valve]

Only if you get trash clickjackets

[sly warren]

Ever see 3ildcat spray lube MX Blues?

[rigid valve]

Kailh Clickbars are hard to lube but will happily accept it

[sly warren]

They literally become crappy MX Reds

[timber ridge]

spray lube

keywords

[sly warren]

And?

[rigid valve]

Guess what
you’re not supposed to spray lube anyways

[timber ridge]

spray lube anything and theyll become crappy

[sly warren]

If you can do it one way, it's likely to end up the same regardless of the method.

[rigid valve]

3ildcat can spray lube because in Korea the spray lube is way different

[rigid valve]

???

[mortal jacinth]

Being partially deaf and numb fingers, the keyboard key debates seem so weird

[sly warren]

I've also literally never heard of anyone lube a clicky switch until seeing the spray lube video.

[timber ridge]

its still bad, he does it knowing the consequences of it

[rigid valve]

Lol

Feelsbadman

[daring zenith]

You can probably get a better experience if you don't lube the leaf or the back of the stem at all, but you may get something out of lubing the side of the stem and housing

[rigid valve]

And the spring obv

[daring zenith]

And spring

[rigid valve]

But tactiles will always take lube

Just don’t use Krytox205g0 unless you’re sped

[daring zenith]

If you don't touch the back of the stem or leaf, you should be fine tactility wise

[timber ridge]

you can lube with 205 if you know how to lube

[rigid valve]

Trybosis 3203 or 3204 is preferred on tactiles
However if you live on the West Coast USA or Southwest area I’d also consider Carbon GS-1 from kinetic labs

[rigid valve]

Yeah it’s just really difficult to lube properly

Using 205g0 on tactiles

[mortal jacinth]

Link for kinetic lab?

[rigid valve]

Outemu Phoenix mods might also be super loud

[rigid valve]

https://kineticlabs.store/hipyo

I used the hipyo affiliate link btw

[mortal jacinth]

Ty

[timber ridge]

aristotles op

[sly warren]

Dang, those Penguin switches seem dope

😢 They aren't factory lubed...

[wanton burrow]

i mean if u manage to lube the click bar and tactile bump, ig it will

[rigid valve]

Penguins are lit

But they’re made for enthusiasts

So no factory lube

Same with most of KL stuff iirc

[sly warren]

Yeah, that's literally the only thing stopping me from buying them...

[rigid valve]

Hippos

[steep pelican]

Probably similar tactility to ocean blues, but priced at 65 cents a switch

[rigid valve]

More tactility

Way different than oceans

[sly warren]

They should be more tactile

They are based on Ergo Clears

[rigid valve]

Hipyo made a nice quality review on them

[sly warren]

Which if I remember correctly are tactile AF

[steep pelican]

Hmm

[wanton burrow]

but some ktt switches

[timber ridge]

hipyo is super bias

[wanton burrow]

little factory lube iirc

[rigid valve]

That’s true

[wanton burrow]

but u can use thm stock anyways

[rigid valve]

But his representation of the tactile bump seems to fall in line with the experiences I’ve heard from others

[sly warren]

I might have to buy the Switch Opener that Kinetic Labs sells

It seems to be the only one I can find that is KNOWN to hold Kailh and MX Switches

[timber ridge]

theres a bunch that offer that

i got a cheap one on amazon and it does both

[rigid valve]

It’s so cute too

And yes, reputable

[mortal jacinth]

Not sure how the key press will feel, but I might get this keyboard just so my finger can stay in position when I’m not looking. https://www.newegg.com/p/0GA-00UM-00069

[rigid valve]

what specifcially about this keyboard would cause you to be able to stay in position
me confuse
is it just the brightness

[sly warren]

You might just need a very concave keycap set.

Oh and Box switches

[mortal jacinth]

Regular QWERTY are small enough that pressing a single key and holding it can wander. I have a hard time just trying to hold ctrl while selecting files to delete

[rigid valve]

ah

[sly warren]

Something like an MDA Keycap Profile might help

Or SA profile

http://xahlee.info/kbd/imisc/keycap_profile_wh4ty.png

Here's a "list" of Keycap Profiles

[rigid valve]

those are the more common ones yeah

[sly warren]

OEM and Cherry are the most common, but if you have issues with keeping your fingers on a certain key, then SA or MDA profiles might help

DSA is also a fairly common profile

[mortal jacinth]

My fingers won’t feel the difference from those

Hospital WiFi is terrible today

[rigid valve]

hospital wifi is generally terrible at least from my experience

[mortal jacinth]

I was trying to say hollow centered keys might help

And that I contemplated using a USB numpad mapped for WASD keys, but I don’t know if ctrl-alt-shift and space would be integrated into that

[steep pelican]

kalih switchs are super easy to open without a switch opener anyways lol

[sly warren]

I'd rather not umm... stab myself repeatedly.

[rigid valve]

lmao

just some tweezers and practice

[steep pelican]

i jsut use one side of my switch puller

[rigid valve]

and maybe some band-aids

[hushed root]

Who are u ppl?

[timber ridge]

peripheral ppl

[rigid valve]

yep

[thick tartan]

yes

[calm cobalt]

yes

[glass bear]

i see video on ultimate budget custom keyboard

i check inventory

case costs 155 dollars and theres 4k mfs signed up for it

[glad yarrow]

Got my mouse... 100% plug and play with ghub

[wanton burrow]

sa, mt3, osa, dss, kat, oem, were the moulded ones i know

mt3 is almost sa if i'm not mistaken

kat looks cool

[gleaming pond]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

seems about right

[rigid valve]

Keyboards have exploded since the yt algorithm started simping for Glarses

There was this Korean dude in hipyotech server like “bro I need advice making this keyboard”
And we all said “ok what’s up, what’s your budget”
He said “5k”
And I thought “5k Korea is $5”
But then he said “5k USD”

And it made me realize that keyboard hobby is growing so so fast

[gleaming pond]

5K usd

yk mane

this guy seems to be the type of elitest you find on the mechanical keebs subreddit

not saying he is

kekw

[rigid valve]

Naw man
He couldn’t tell whether he liked Linears or Clickies

So we just said “just buy both bruh”

[glass bear]

ahaha

[stray compass]

5k without knowing whether you like linears or clickies

madman

[rigid valve]

lmao

At least he can get both

[glass bear]

both

lmao

[stray compass]

"yeah bro just try bykos and add a clickbar to see if you like clickies"

[glass bear]

i mean when you have 5k

you can

spend like

40 on

extra switches

even like

200

on extra switches because you have...

5k

sheesh

[rigid valve]

So someone told me that Jane uses a proprietary mounting system

Is it true
And if so what kind?

[gleaming pond]

hm

[tight pulsar]

no

[rigid valve]

ok

what mount does it use

[tight pulsar]

there's 4 janes which one

[rigid valve]

uh

damn

idk

lemme check

[wanton burrow]

prob some jelly epoch or frog or f2-84/f1-8x aftermarket

[rigid valve]

i told him to look for the korea-specific GBs as well

[wanton burrow]

then some $3-5 hiroses

[tight pulsar]

why are epoch's so expensive they don't look that special

[wanton burrow]

idrk maybe coz sound? ppl call them lit not sure why

[tight pulsar]

they're at f1 8x money and i don't really see the draw

[rigid valve]

v2 i guess

[wanton burrow]

don't really know never really cared about something i highly possible that i cannon buy

[tight pulsar]

v2 is just top mount

[rigid valve]

ok

[tight pulsar]

v2ce is gummyworm+top mount

[wanton burrow]

tgr tomo layout looks nice imo

[rigid valve]

oh thats why shoobs memed on it in his video

[wanton burrow]

65% with frow kek

[rigid valve]

"Not even gasket mount no thocc smh"

[rigid valve]

that actually sounds super nice

[tight pulsar]

do you understand how many people unironically say this

[wanton burrow]

[rigid valve]

yes i do
as someone who gives free advice in both hipyotech and shoobs server

it is infuriating

[tight pulsar]

it makes me want to cry

[rigid valve]

"looking for gasket mounted 65%"
and i was like "do those even fricking exist"

"oh and also budget preferably under 200CAD"

[tight pulsar]

the amount of gasket mount 65's is too much

[rigid valve]

i think imma go sandwich mount design for my custom case

what do u think

should i consider any other mounting styles

[tight pulsar]

look at linwork's boards for good sandwich designs

[rigid valve]

ok

quick question

how is tofu mounted

[tight pulsar]

montage and whale (can't confirm but believe it should be) are both really nice sandwich boards

normal tofus are tray mount and wkl/hhkb are integrated plate

[rigid valve]

ok thx

hm
what are some examples of a gasket mount done well

so not gmmk pro

[tight pulsar]

otd boards

[rigid valve]

ok

thanks

[tight pulsar]

most people i know that have a v2ce just run it top mount but i guess the jane did it pretty well, most similar designs to it should be decent, keycults seem to get nice reviews for the mounting, most gummyworm 60's similar to the otd 356mini and unikorn, ogre

[rigid valve]

ok

[tight pulsar]

oh yeah and geon's stuff is super solid

[wanton burrow]

time to hype 1800 and oring gasket mount like bakeneko so more places sell them in pog prices

y'all think it's worth to invest for burgundy stemmed mx black?

black borgar is a nice name coz i rly wanna call burgs borgar lol

[rigid valve]

wdym

[wanton burrow]

kailh pro burgundy stem on hyperglide blacks

70g spring ofc

[rigid valve]

sounds interesting

[wanton burrow]

be careful btw

the burg stems that's separately sold is factory rejects

and it's rough

[rigid valve]

you could also blow all your money and make darlings

[wanton burrow]

i might evn take 10+ months to be able to have a keeb

but pc first kek

[rigid valve]

ok

last smol brain question

could i oring a sandwich mount
and quasi-gasket it

[steep pelican]

What are darlings

[rigid valve]

frankenswitch

named after everyone's favorite waifu

ZERO

TWO

[steep pelican]

I know but with what switches

[rigid valve]

Darlings: raed/inky red bottom, okomochi top, kailh pro burgundy stem

i think that if you get every switch whole it's about 1.3-1.5 each

not sure though

[steep pelican]

Aren’t glorious pandas like 2 dollars a switch or something

[rigid valve]

uh

the retail is like 0.7 each

[steep pelican]

Oh

So when it’s listed for 25 dollars it’s not just 10 switches

[rigid valve]

not on divinikey no

[steep pelican]

Makes more sense

[steep pelican]

So expensive but kinda tempting, they probably look sick

Also with raed switches it’s 1.73 dollars per switch

[rigid valve]

credit: Belled on shoobsland

[steep pelican]

Mmm

[rigid valve]

he wanted to put them in a full 02 baord but couldnt find GMK Darling for a reasonable price

[steep pelican]

Gmk darling looks so nice too

[rigid valve]

it do fr

[steep pelican]

But since based off a waifu it’s probably boosted by like 100% aftermarket

Similar to Olivia++ prices prob lol

The base set was 185 bruh what

I’m scrolling mechmarket knowing full well I can’t afford any thing on there

[rigid valve]

lol

[steep pelican]

Wait people really be selling base gmk kits for 330 aftermarket

[rigid valve]

well yah

everyone know that GMK provide maximum thocc

[steep pelican]

Explaining to my parents how buying gmk kits is a investment with 200% yearly return

[rigid valve]

i mean you'd not be wrong

[steep pelican]

Buy gmk kit, wait for it to arrive, sell for 2x to 3x the price

Ez

[rigid valve]

a $150 gmk base kit in box never opened

could easily sell for 350%

just make sure its a popular set

or nice colorway

[tight pulsar]

yeah but is that worth 16 months

[steep pelican]

i mean regular investments dont make 100% to 200% in 16 months lol

[tight pulsar]

yes but it doesn’t scale well

if you want to make actual money you need a lot of money that you can have missing for 1-2 years, and if you only flip a few sets you could just work a few days and make the same amount

and it’s very reliant on other factors, such as how much the set sells for on the aftermarket and how many people will buy at that price, the market isn’t normally how it is now, rn it’s crazy because of all the new people and covid money

look at how much jane v2/ce’s sell for, a month ago it was 7k+ and now it’s 5k, with the execption of some sets/boards the prices are heading downwards (look at how 7v also, it went from 1500 to not many people buying at 1100ish)

[steep pelican]

i dont understand what makes jane v2 worth 5k

i mean i understand why keyboards get more expenisive but only up to a certain point

why is its construction make it worth as much as a full 2 year treatment in braces

@rigid valve do i buy tangies for the clout, they are back in stock

[tight pulsar]

it’s tgr

[stray compass]

the greatest rectangle

no don’t get tangies

[steep pelican]

oh okay

i want a nice linear, what do you reccomend

[stray compass]

i haven’t used many, i’ve got Gateron Yellows right now

getting some Nylon SP Stars soon

[steep pelican]

i have gateron yellows too

for tactile im getting some boba u4t prob, but i haven't decided what linear to get

[stray compass]

Tangies just aren’t worth because they’re from a bad vendor, they don’t sound good (to most), and they have little uhmwpe which is a big selling point for them

u4ts seem very nice

i’d also consider Akko CS Ocean Blues

[steep pelican]

i have ocean blues in my keeb rn

[stray compass]

very nice

[steep pelican]

i want something with a little more thocc

and slightly more tactility and weight

i put a gat yellow spring in my spacebar switch but still not tactile enough

[stray compass]

68g U4ts probs fit that bill

or 67g or whatever the higher of the two weights is lol

[steep pelican]

68 i think

should i make darling switches and just spend 120 dollars lol

1.73 dollars per switch mmmm

[stray compass]

not worth

[steep pelican]

can make creamsicles for 1.30 a switch

[stray compass]

you can do it for cheaper than that

aren’t regular kailh switches’ stems POM

[steep pelican]

im sure it varies per switch

[stray compass]

well kailh reds and kailh blacks, for example, are the same iirc except for spring weight

just like gat clears, reds, and blacks are identical except for stem color and spring weight

[wanton burrow]

Tkc yikers

Funni qc

Try some ktt or sp star

Pretty switches

Also ktt carpinteria poggars

It's a ktt matcha recolor

Colors is

[steep pelican]

The question is do they make good Frankenswitches

[wanton burrow]

Some ktt is wing latch so idrk

Both manu hard to find in stock

[steep pelican]

I might buy durock poms

Probably not tho

I want mid range thocc

Milky yellows a tiny bit too mush

[thick tartan]

keychron q1 launches in july

poggers

[thick tartan]

try halo trues

its what im rocking rn

theyre pretty dam thoccy

[steep pelican]

Halo trues are tactile tho

Aren’t they?

[thick tartan]

yes

or were you looking for linears

[steep pelican]

Linears

If I wanted halo stems I would get polia probably

Holy bobas look kinda nice

[stray compass]

Holy Bobas probably my ideal tactile, or some variation of Bobas

more of a linear guy but good tactiles with a larger bump intrigue me

[rigid valve]

Meh
I mean you could

Personally I’d get Frankie ingredients

[timber ridge]

im making holy bobas

i can tell yall how it is

[thick tartan]

i think everglides are my new gav

[timber ridge]

the moyu blacks?

[thick tartan]

yee

[timber ridge]

i was interested in them a while back ngl

then u4t dropped and i was swayed over lol

[thick tartan]

thts fair

[rigid valve]

Guys you won’t believe this

My grandparents have a full stack

It has an amp and a tuner
It’s crazy

[thick tartan]

hori cheet

[reef lichen]

Yeah, a lot of us Boomers have stereo equipment 😉

[maiden current]

thoughts?

[tight pulsar]

it’s a keyboard

[stray compass]

the fact that it is a keyboard is the strongest endorsement i can give it

[steep pelican]

Not even a pain 27

Has apostrophe

[steep pelican]

Ahh what Frankie ingredients do you recommend, also shoobs dropped zero two vid and I am excited to watch

[stray compass]

could get polias for the stem

[rigid valve]

Halos or Polias for the stem
NK creams for the stem
Bobas because they’re awesome switches

Bobas also to make Holy Bobas/bykos

[steep pelican]

k, any other linear parts?

if i want to make linear frankie ill need a housing

[rigid valve]

Well what do u want from your Frankie
Eg. Deep sound

[steep pelican]

medium range sound

or deeper sound but with more clack

than thocc

lubed gat yellows a little too much thocc

[rigid valve]

For smooth medrange sound I’d probably make Creampacas
Ofc no Frankie is cost-efficient or practical

[steep pelican]

lol

so true

alpacas always go out of stock so fast for some reason

[rigid valve]

They’re good

[steep pelican]

ok, for now I think im going to get boba, polia, and creams

then wait for alpacas to go instock

[rigid valve]

Also wait

If you can get cream stems then you might wanna consider just getting cream stem
Because the housings are gaaaarbage

[steep pelican]

yeah idk how id get just stems but maybe

would probably have to be off mechmarket

[timber ridge]

what you making ?

[steep pelican]

probably would make holy bobas, and eventually creampacas

[rigid valve]

You could also become unmoney and make Bykos instead of holy bobas

[timber ridge]

clear tops are slightly dif from the colored ones

[steep pelican]

whats that

im finding results for zykos

[rigid valve]

Bykos: halo true stem, boba top, zealios bottom

Boba top instead of panda top

If you buy each switch individually as a whole they’re around $2 each to make iirc

[steep pelican]

rip

that is unmoney

[rigid valve]

Zeal - 1.1
Boba ~ 0.5
Halo ~ 0.4
I think at least

[steep pelican]

im going to buy polia instead of halo

since on clearance

[rigid valve]

Ok

[steep pelican]

halo are .5 anyways

should i return my ocean blues?

[rigid valve]

No

[steep pelican]

but my wallet

and some of them have bad leaf crunch

[rigid valve]

Skfmtemsifj

[steep pelican]

sorry was testing for leaf crunch

there is much

[timber ridge]

i wanna pick up some linears but i jus cashed out on some switch stuff

[rigid valve]

I wanna pick up some linears but my parents would get pissed :p

[timber ridge]

i wanna get rid of my t1s b4 getting linears tbh

but the switches i want are gb

[steep pelican]

do i buy polia now because only on clearnace for limited time, or do i buy boba then polia later

[timber ridge]

cop the polia stems first

[steep pelican]

got u

[timber ridge]

you can make a lot of stuff with the stems if you dont go down the holy boba route

[steep pelican]

@timber ridge unmoney successful

[timber ridge]

nice

mine come on the 8th

[steep pelican]

mine should come the 8th too

or 9th

[timber ridge]

really wished boba tops worked on jwk bottoms

holy t1s seem really nice

[rigid valve]

thoughts on DT990s?

nevermind

frequency response is making me sick

[peak atlas]

Does anybody know any software that I could use instead of ASRGB for more customization?

[timber ridge]

big skip

[rigid valve]

yeah i was having a convo with this dude

he was like "so i use them for mixing"

and i said "w h a t"

[timber ridge]

only ones really worth it from the dt lineup are 1990s and 880s

[thick tartan]

sup my keeb qts

[calm cobalt]

hey, i have asus monitor thats 1920x1080 165hz, but i want a second monitor. should i make the current one my second and get a 240hz monitor?
i also want a dual monitor stand, are there different ones that work with different type of monitors?
i also, need a new desk like a minimalistic one, if anyone can link it
that would fit the dual monitor stand

[timber ridge]

i would get two single monitor arms

and unless youre pro or play osu, dont really need 240hz

and you can get an ikea desk top with some legs and make something p nice

[tacit wing]

yall jacking my swag

[rigid valve]

Arguing with people is tough
Got a guy trying to convince me that $300 can get someone a gaming PC and a custom keyboard

[daring zenith]

lol

[daring zenith]

what are they saying to get?

optiplex and a office keeb? xD

[rigid valve]

Used Xeon, Huanan mobo, used server ram, cheap PSU, cheap hdd

Which I tallied to be about $290

[daring zenith]

...

[rigid valve]

Oh also a 970 since we were talking about pre-shortage etc

That’s where the other $100 came from

Xeon E5 1650 - $100
Mobo - $50
Used RAM - $35
PSU - $40
Hdd - 20

970 - 100

Wait I went over

[daring zenith]

smh just get an optiplex+psu+gpu at that point

[sweet ore]

That guy seems a bit crazy. Maybe that was a good option once, but I'm pretty sure those parts are ancient now.

[daring zenith]

that's still without a keyboard

@rigid valve what keyboard did they think they'll get?

[rigid valve]

No clue lmao

[glossy prawn]

i have a VESA mount system, ypu can go to any tech store or onlien retailer and they'll have vesa mounts, make sure you bave the correct aiE

size

the one i got from amazon ran me $75 (well $50 but shipping and tax)

pretty good

hadda cut a hole in my desk though

[hollow flower]

What makes a keyboard good per se?

Is it mostly just the switches?

[rigid valve]

no

switches
compatibility with VIA/QMK (more for nerds but still important)
plate material
pcb RGB LED placement
case build
mounting style (sometimes)
stabilizers
keycaps
different mods can change the quality of a keyboard as well

[rigid valve]

also just for future reference the term is "per se"
sorry i'm feeling kind of dickish today

[hollow flower]

Because I have an old cyberpower keyboard from like 5 years ago lying around and I kinda want to mess with it

[hollow flower]

Yeah that was autocorrect

[rigid valve]

got banned from a discord server 10 minutes ago :p

[hollow flower]

Hehe :p

Think it would be a fun project to throw in a set of those blue akko switches?

[rigid valve]

if you can desolder and resolder

then absolutely

[hollow flower]

I build guitar amps so I’d say my soldering is almost flawless

Yeah I’ll go for the project then

Rn there are pretty bad cyberpower blues in it

[rigid valve]

lol

clemv1 case first design

any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated

lil bit of side profile action

[steep pelican]

that looks cool, mind sending over the cad file so i can have a better look at it?

[rigid valve]

ok

i used tinkercad like a goddamn normie

[steep pelican]

kekw free cad software for life

[rigid valve]

this is a small brain question

but how do i send cad file

could i just like
send the tinkercad link

[steep pelican]

sure

[rigid valve]

or do you want an stl

ok

[hollow flower]

Rhino 7 is daddy ain’t changing my mind

[rigid valve]

ohhh rhino 7 the software

not uh

the male enhancement supplement

[gleaming pond]

when will you release your book?

[steep pelican]

Uhhhh

[steep pelican]

Idk maybe next week

[gleaming pond]

ima be the first one to get it kekw

[steep pelican]

Do you know of any book writing softwares, like ebook ones

Cause I think I have a good idea of what the book is like, I just don’t know where to write it

[gleaming pond]

no sorry

[rigid valve]

google docs

[gleaming pond]

times new roman looks like hot garbage in docs

if ness has word I'd recommend he uses that

kekw

[tight pulsar]

@rigid valve most people use fusion360 for designing, works pretty well

[rigid valve]

Ok
Is free?

Doubt

But might as well ask

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[rigid valve]

Oh

[tight pulsar]

for personal use

[rigid valve]

Delightful

Thanks

[tight pulsar]

unless you make 100k+ using it it should be free iirc

[rigid valve]

Ok

[steep pelican]

browser word is free

[gleaming pond]

kek

worstness' guide to peripherals discord server when?

kekw

[steep pelican]

@rigid valve watching shoobs vid on nk cream stem alternatives, thought wow i should get kailh reds intead, looked it up and they will never go instock on novel keys ever

😐

[thick tartan]

could just go for duroc

probably the best stem alt to a cream

unless again u can somehow snag K reds or Blacks

[steep pelican]

might go for pro burgundy since some people also said those were close

also durock would destroy my budget almost as much as nk creams

[thick tartan]

tru

but wat can i say i have expensive tastes

[timber ridge]

i learned the hard way to not go with dual arms

[rigid valve]

Get pro burgundies if you can

But yes reds are solid

[thick tartan]

really i have a dual monitor arm mount

[timber ridge]

running dual 27in and i dont get much movement

[drifting flax]

Any recommendations on chairs?

[thick tartan]

ahh okay

[timber ridge]

and they came in

[thick tartan]

i have 2 24s so i see wat u mean

[timber ridge]

hyken mesh is like the best budget ergo chair

[thick tartan]

Secret Labs

dont go cheap

[drifting flax]

I just need something better then the folding chair currently destroying my back lol

[thick tartan]

what board is tht

[thick tartan]

whats ur budget tho

[timber ridge]

67 lite

[thick tartan]

fook lucky

[drifting flax]

No idea what they even go for maybe like 100-200

[thick tartan]

so ur willing to spend 200?

[timber ridge]

hyken mesh constantly goes on sale but you can find them at like 160 at the cheapest

usually around the 180 mark

[drifting flax]

I mean if it's a real good chair sure. Would prefer cheaper obviously but if its noticeably better

[thick tartan]

yea then def go with hyken mesh

[drifting flax]

Ight

Ty guys

[thick tartan]

Secret labs went the DXR route so dont bother

npnp

[drifting flax]

Dxr?

[thick tartan]

Dxr racer

[drifting flax]

Ohhh

[thick tartan]

they used to be the high rollers

for good chairs

[drifting flax]

Yea no something comfortable is good lol

@timber ridge is it the task model?

[sly warren]

No, just the Hyken Mesh

Oh

[timber ridge]

they changed the name ig

[sly warren]

https://www.staples.com/Staples-Hyken-Technical-Mesh-Task-Chair-Black/product_990119

That ^

[timber ridge]

but yea task chair

[drifting flax]

Haha yea thats what I'm looking at ty!

[timber ridge]

np

its on the cheaper side too

usually its 189 on sale

[sly warren]

I wish I had the money for one right now...

[steep pelican]

67 lite gang

I’m saving all my mining money for keychron q1 when it releases tho

[timber ridge]

lite op

i joined the gb back in december ish lol

[steep pelican]

Do you have r2?

[timber ridge]

r1

i joined the first gb lol

[steep pelican]

Oh lol

I just ordered mine and got it in 4 days

[timber ridge]

im waiting for the frog tkl

then i might cop either the q1 or d60 lite if they make a nice collab kit

[steep pelican]

Hopefully with q1 the customizability means you get it without switches in it but that might be too much to hope for

Since I’m going to put my own switches in it anyways

And they are kinda marketing it as a entry level enthusiast option

[thick tartan]

bro

what switches are these

[timber ridge]

looks like t1s

[thick tartan]

welp i never knew i had thse then

lmfao

[timber ridge]

dunno why its rotated

but holy t1 in the middle

[thick tartan]

sheeesh

i think im gonna do a halo stem swap

[timber ridge]

i wonder how boba housings will compare

[drifting flax]

@timber ridge how is the chair for taller people?

Was just reading not so good for ppl over 5 10

[timber ridge]

im not too sure but im p sure there is a version for bigger ppl

forgot the name tho

[drifting flax]

Ight ill deff check it out then. Someone had recommended the markus

[timber ridge]

have a link to it?

[drifting flax]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/markus-office-chair-vissle-dark-gray-90289172/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwweyFBhDvARIsAA67M72wq4qI9IGqfvS2xNq7tFHgyiV0YwDilsaELlg2rcl9y9uKOXwF3JEaAtpvEALw_wcB

[timber ridge]

dont know too much about it so i cant make any comments

but this is the bigger version https://www.staples.com/staples-dexley-mesh-task-chair-black-56946/product_24398921

dont know if itll be any better tho

[drifting flax]

I'll swing over and check it out thank you!

[thick tartan]

i forgot i dont have a switch opener so the franken switch is gonna be put on hold

tho honestly i forgot how nice these feel stock

[steep pelican]

Time to get a switch opener lol, one of the actually heavily recommended tools for

You can do without a stem holder

Or lube station

[thick tartan]

ye i know.

reason why i didnt get one was because i kind already knew how to open the switch i was using without one

but i change my mind now too tedious

[timber ridge]

i got mine off of amazon for cheap

came quick too

and if i didnt get bobas, i would of been satisfied with holy t1s tbh

should of waited b4 buying

[thick tartan]

what are hoyl t1

stem swapo?

[timber ridge]

yup

[thick tartan]

ohhh

[proven dawn]

is it normal for g304 scroll wheel to get stuck over time? i tried opening it and it seems the wheel is hitting against all the border/walls around it. it's like it became too large for its slot.

also, any issues with orochi v2 so far?

[rigid valve]

Get the one from kinetic lab
Work well and looks cute

Also Kinetic Lab is locate in Cali so fast ship

It’s $6 or 7 iirc

[steep pelican]

Really? Most name brand ones are like 20 dollars or something ridiculous

[rigid valve]

I don’t remember lmao

Yeah I was wrong again

It’s $16

[thick tartan]

still pretty cheap honestly

actually

eh

but still it is a primary component lol

[steep pelican]

I’d just grab a offbrand combo opener for like 9 bucks

Bad thing about mine is that it’s only mx style but kailh switches are pretty easy to open without a opener anyways

[hollow flower]

What’s the difference between a Kailh Box White and Jade? And which would you say is better

[rigid valve]

Jades are much clicker/louder and somewhat more tactile.

Neither are particularly "better"

It's based on what you prefer

Whites are also fairly light

[hollow flower]

I’m planning to buy the Keychron C1 and replace the switches in it but I still have no clue what switches I want

[rigid valve]

well, first I would try the switches in the C1
What's your budget for switches?

[hollow flower]

I’m trying to spend less than $100

Well more around 50 but I’d be willing to stretch it a bit if there’s something good

I’m definitely wanting some form of tactile switch

[rigid valve]

Ok

[daring zenith]

You want sound or no

[rigid valve]

^