#peripherals-and-displays

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daring zenith
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And yea, stereo sound is better than 'surround sound' for headphones

coral void
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I was looking at the c1, I don't want a full keyboard.

steep pelican
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I don’t think I could go back to full just cause buying switches later for it would cost so much

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70 switches vs 110 is a big price difference

daring zenith
daring zenith
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Prob on amazon too

steep pelican
daring zenith
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China

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It's like 2 day shipping via DHL

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Pretty sure it's air freight

steep pelican
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Oh rip

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Air freight

coral void
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Realized that it has the apple command key, what about windows?

daring zenith
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It has both

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It comes with both keycaps

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It's for Mac and windows

shut cobalt
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@sly warren i want gaming headset because im gamer not that much of music listener and also the cable is really annoying and i dont want that headset they look bad and have cable witch i really dont want you really cant recommend me something i want and be decent?

steep pelican
coral void
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Alright looks good, and what about a mouse?

shut cobalt
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@steep pelican but not have gaming features like 7.1

steep pelican
gloomy berry
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Agreed. 7.1 gaming headets are hot garbage

sly warren
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A good pair of stereo headphones like the K361 will be leagues better in ALL situations compared to any "gaming" headset.

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And the Samson Go Mic will kick the ass of any Headset Mic

daring zenith
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7.1 is bad for gaming, stereo is actually just better for positional audio

thick tartan
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i cant take it anymore im getting new stabs for gmk compact

shut cobalt
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but i see reviews and nothing of them say something bad about 7.1

thick tartan
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its driving me nuts

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/rattle

daring zenith
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It's not just sounds bad, positional audio is actually bad relative to stereo tbh

sly warren
shut cobalt
sly warren
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YouTube reviewers are just paid to say it's good

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Trust me, you will be blown away with how good the K361 sound

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Yes.

steep pelican
latent hull
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ngl this just seems like satire rn

sly warren
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He is literally making money from reviews

shut cobalt
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but there is a also a bad reviews and they never mentioned the 7.1 was bad

steep pelican
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Pretty much all of the smart people on here that know lots more about audio than I do say 7.1 surround is bad

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I’m pretty sure they actually know what they are talking about

daring zenith
# shut cobalt you say linus was paid?

I mean, even Linus says surround sound is basically BS here
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Linus testing kinda crap but

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Yaknow

little crater
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"7.1 surround" just messes with your audio, it doesnt magically make an additional 5 speakers and 1 subwoofer appear out of nowhere.

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your headphones are 2.0, and thats all they will ever be, unless you get that one goofy razer one

shut cobalt
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but it dosent make gaming better?

little crater
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its just audio processing to give the illusion of surround

steep pelican
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Nope

little crater
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if you have good headphones, it will make it so much worse

steep pelican
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How would it make gaming “better”

gloomy berry
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I had a 7.1 headset

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It sounded like poo

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went back to stereo

little crater
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for bad headphones, it could potentially make directional audio better, but sound like garbo

daring zenith
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But good headphones just have better positional audio with stereo :p

little crater
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if you only got 50 dollars for headphones, and you only care about directional audio and not audio quality, im sure the surround sound headphones would work

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but dont lol

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invest in a good headphone that you can use for the next 10 years

daring zenith
little crater
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ya know

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prolly

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lol

daring zenith
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Ur40 is actually really nice for positional audio

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And sounds nice

shut cobalt
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so why if it bad why a lot of gaming headset use 7.1

sly warren
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Because marketing exists.

daring zenith
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And they like making the feature list long

sly warren
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On top of that companies don't care about making a good product they simply care about making a product.

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This goes especially for gaming companies.

little crater
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in general, most gaming headsets are poo in the first place

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aside from hyperx cloud 2s and sennheiser gaming headsets

sly warren
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And even those are very mediocre compared to good headphones

little crater
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tru

daring zenith
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PC37x is decent, PC38x is actually kinda good-ish, but yea.

sly warren
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PC38X are okay for music but they actually suffer in gaming. I'm also surprised that Google said that all correctly I'm using voice typing right now.

little crater
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they good enough for integrated PC audio lol

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for people who dont want a standalone mic

daring zenith
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Lol

shut cobalt
sly warren
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But why does the wire matter. It will give you superior audio quality and you will be happier with your purchase if you purchase a wired pair of headphones.

daring zenith
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Knowledge is power

shut cobalt
sly warren
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None of the wireless headsets are anywhere near better than wired headphones without a microphone. Wireless will always give inferior quality and sound.

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I wouldn't even call the best wireless headset adequate for gaming use because it is not built well for audio in general.

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Even my cheapest recommended pair of headphones will be orders of magnitude better than a quote unquote gaming headset.

gloomy berry
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I mean my HyperX Revolvers sounded great for stereo gaming but the 7.1 stuff is garbage marketing :/

shut cobalt
gloomy berry
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Small??

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They def aren't small, completely over ear

shut cobalt
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in the pictures ya

sly warren
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Looks don't really matter with headphones. You put them on your head you can't see them.

gloomy berry
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Super comfy

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But the 7.1 is a gimmick lol

shut cobalt
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so i just can buy a wireless gaming headset and turn off the 7.1 and it will work decent

sly warren
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In my opinion no since they are a waste of money because you can pay the same amount of money for superior audio quality from almost any pair of headphones.0

sly warren
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Gaming headsets are a scam you should never purchase one.

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Wireless is also a scam and you should stop liking it or wanting it.

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Okay I actually mean that towards audio not other wireless gear wireless keyboards and wireless mice are really awesome

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Wireless audio is effectively a scam unless you are purchasing Bluetooth earbuds or headphones for your phone specifically those are fine.

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Yes that is why we are trying to steer you towards a pair of wired headphones and a separate mic Wireless in general is not good for gaming Even dongle headsets are bad.

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You don't need wireless You want wireless even though it doesn't give you any major benefits.

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On top of the fact that wireless has to be charged so you may experience a cutout in the middle of a gaming session and then they become effectively wired anyways.

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In short wireless audio is a scam just by wired headphones!

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I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but you have given no actual use case for your wireless purchase.

shut cobalt
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i cant buy them i need wireless it has the benefit of not having a cable that is on your chair

sly warren
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What? That makes no sense. Having a cable on your chair doesn't matter it doesn't do anything it doesn't hurt you.

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Wow that sentence really needed commas.

shut cobalt
sly warren
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I was talking about my sentence

daring zenith
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Also, you could just route cables differently

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My headphone cables don't bother me like at all, I can just push them to the side and such

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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Amp dac are nice

sly warren
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And, good headphones LAST. They don't go bad like food or GPUs or anything like that.

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Wireless gear has a finite time limit

sly warren
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And the DAC in all Wireless gear sucks.

daring zenith
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Yes, better dac = better sound

sly warren
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(Up to a Limit)

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Not much.

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The Apple USB-C to 3.5mm dongle is 9 USD and smacks around 90% of basic motherboard audio

shut cobalt
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if i want a good dac its gonna be pricey

sly warren
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Again... See my last message

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Apple Dongle beats 90% of motherboard audio

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Only like, the super extreme high-end motherboards have slightly better audio gear in them.

shut cobalt
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but the cable still be annoying

sly warren
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How?

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It just sits there

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It does nothing.

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You can route it however you want.

shut cobalt
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this is not a option for me sorry 😦 and i have an laptop and also the headsets you recommended isnt available in my Country and the taxes here are pretty high

sly warren
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I mean, it is an option

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You just plug the headphones into your laptop

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GG

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Also, what country?

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Oh, well... I think you might be able to get Audio Technica M40Xs

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Those are more widely available

shut cobalt
sly warren
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Why.

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What is making you so vehemently opposed to a SINGLE WIRE

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Did a wire kill someone close to you?

shut cobalt
shut cobalt
sly warren
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Yes, but wireless audio and wireless mice/keyboards are 2 totally different ballgames.

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Wireless audio sucks, Wireless Keyboards and Mice suck

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Whoops

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Meant to say don't suck

shut cobalt
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i think i just make the choice on my on because you cant recommended a wireless gaming headset

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thank for the helps though

sly warren
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And then you will be disappointed with what you get because you won't be able to hear any footsteps or positional audio

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But, I guess you can't fix someone who is so set on 1 thing. Yes, I know there is irony in that statement.

thick tartan
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i want a D60 so bad

shut cobalt
timber ridge
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i think its the alphas

daring zenith
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Cloud ii wireless exists too

timber ridge
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forgot the naming scheme

shut cobalt
timber ridge
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dont get 935

shut cobalt
timber ridge
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i had them a long while back

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theyre heavy, garbage mic and the power switch went out

shut cobalt
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there just no stuck of it

shut cobalt
timber ridge
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cant speak for the nari but i never liked how bulky razer headsets were

shut cobalt
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i really wanted the corsair too but they are very expensive

timber ridge
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i personally wouldnt get gamer headsets anymore after finding out whats actually good in the audio side of things

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but a gamer headset will get the job done

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if i were to go wireless id go with logitech or hyperx

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maybe corsair

daring zenith
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Meh

timber ridge
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my gf had virtuosos but said the comfort wasnt there

daring zenith
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They're all kinda crappy, other than afaik cloud ii being decent

timber ridge
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ye

daring zenith
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And virtuoso is like one of the only headphones Zeo didn't like lel

shut cobalt
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really expensive

timber ridge
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hyperx prob your best bet

shut cobalt
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and i dont want the flight

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or stinger

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they way worse than the cloud 2

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i think the revolver wireless is also not in my country

timber ridge
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oh, the hyperx one should be cloud 2 wireless

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not the stinger or flight

shut cobalt
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and buy from amazon or newegg its just expensive with all the taxses

shut cobalt
timber ridge
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ah ok

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if you think youll be happy with the naris buy that

sly warren
timber ridge
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i wouldnt recommend it but if you think youll like it go for it

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its your headset

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not mine

daring zenith
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Basically, know that every option you currently have is basically crap

shut cobalt
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but i cant get them

timber ridge
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???

shut cobalt
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thats the problem

sly warren
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Then just get Wired if it's so expensive to get Wireless

timber ridge
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you cant get naris either?

shut cobalt
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not the nari

daring zenith
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It's just the lesser of the two evils

shut cobalt
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the hyperx

timber ridge
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if youll be happy with the nari then get them, jus know like almost every other option will be better

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youre buying it for the gamer aesthetic

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not audio quality

shut cobalt
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there is also roccat wireless very cheap like 114 dollars

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but they look cheap

sly warren
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Probably is gonna suck donkey nuts

shut cobalt
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steelseries and nacon for some reason lol

sly warren
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Steel series would be "ok"

timber ridge
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yea

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theyre prob more comfy than all ur options too

shut cobalt
sly warren
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The 1's should be good enough.

shut cobalt
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they look bad

sly warren
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Well, you clearly don't care about Audio Quality

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Why TF are you caring about looks?

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Either care about price, or audio quality

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Looks don't matter when your device is on your head where you can't hear it.

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*see it

timber ridge
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ayyee vintage

gloomy berry
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Wyh TF do you recommend the Samson mic when people want integrated with headset? Same answer, because you like it.

timber ridge
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long time no see lol

gloomy berry
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Nah

shut cobalt
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you know looks matter too and the sound i know not going to be amazing but decnet enough

gloomy berry
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mic on my HyperX was on par with a ModMic or slightly better

shut cobalt
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both g935 and nari ultimate sound bad i heard

gloomy berry
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Neither of which is great since it's going through the onboard Realtek tho

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Find YouTube videos of people using the mics

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Actual real world testing

shut cobalt
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only the integrated mic in g pro is ok

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or the virtuoso

gloomy berry
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If you use the HyperX dongle though it helps

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That timestamp tests the HyperX mic vs the ModMic 5.0

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SO they ain't all bad

sly warren
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Yeah, but all the money realistically went into that mic capsule. The drivers are not great and not tuned for good gaming audio.

gloomy berry
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uh

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They worked pretty good in stereo mode

sly warren
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And yet they get smashed by the 40 dollar Koss UR40

gloomy berry
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On paper

shut cobalt
sly warren
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And in the real world

gloomy berry
sly warren
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I had HyperX Clouds at one point. And the UR40 sound so much more open and have amazing stereo position accuracy

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The Clouds sound muddy

gloomy berry
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Right, clouds

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Which Clouds

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There's a few

gloomy berry
# shut cobalt the g pro and virtuoso has a better integrated mic than the hyperx

Wow, that mic does actually sound pretty good. Just a hint of static in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nom9k0Cn6jU

Wireless gaming headsets offer freedom and convenience, but often at the cost of audio or microphone quality. Corsair's new Virtuoso SE might be the first wireless gaming headset that doesn't compromise on performance. This video is a deep dive into the Virtuoso SE including build quality, RGB lighting, sound and mic tests and wireless perform...

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timber ridge
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it got better with updates iirc

timber ridge
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but comfort isnt there

gloomy berry
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IDK I could wear my HyperX all day without issues, it was comfy

shut cobalt
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i found the cloud 2 wireless but very pricey like 237 dollars

timber ridge
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talking about the virtuoso

shut cobalt
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its really close to the virtuoso

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in the price range

gloomy berry
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Virtuoso better I think

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If they're the same price where you are, Corsair then

shut cobalt
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its really pricey the nari costs like 153 dollars

gloomy berry
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Razer Nari?

shut cobalt
gloomy berry
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From my experience, Razer headsets aren't that great.

shut cobalt
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the g935 cost like 178

timber ridge
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g935 is garbage

shut cobalt
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i dont understand whats the differences models of corsair virtuoso

timber ridge
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one jus looks fancier

shut cobalt
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and just more expensive

timber ridge
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the more expensive one use to have a worse mic

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but i think thtey fixed it with an update

sly warren
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No Surround garbage, no dongle, just Headphones and Mic

shut cobalt
sly warren
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The dongle makes the sound worse.

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Yes, it had it's own USB Dongle even as a Wired headset

shut cobalt
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the color espresso of the virtuoso looks amazing

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but very pricey

thick tartan
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hyperx used to make me go bald

jolly stratus
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vg259qm vs aw2521hf?
240hz 1080p monitors

rigid valve
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Make sure they’re IPS panel type

timber ridge
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imo you dont need 240hz unless youre playing osu or some

rigid valve
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If you’re a pro gamer

west hornet
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Pro osu

daring zenith
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Prosu

steep pelican
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I’m a prosu

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Jk

west hornet
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lol that was one of my friends name

rigid valve
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I swear I just got a ghost unread

gentle nymph
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whats a good wireless mouse, (preferably white) and budget, $100 USD max

also does any mouse have an option to toggle a hold key? like so i can toggle it so the right click for example is constantly held down with out the need for a weight (to afk in games such as mc)

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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There is model o wireless

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Also the razer wireless mice, forgot name

shut cobalt
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there is a also razer mamba gears of war edition in white

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looks amazing

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74 dollars in amazon!

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but before i think it was like 50 dollars or 60

daring zenith
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@shut cobalt was thinking of viper ultimate, but that's 120$, orochi should be good though

shut cobalt
shut cobalt
daring zenith
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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??

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I'm talking about the Orochi v2

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the one that came out like a month ago

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The one that's pretty nice for claw

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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...

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more expensive doesn't mean better

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And mice is all about what fits your hand

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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....???

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wat

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Orochi is better for palm/claw from what I can tell

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Orochi should also be lighter with a better sensor

shut cobalt
daring zenith
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eh, orochi would be lighter, the rest depends on their hand and grip

wanton burrow
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god i love this so much

daring zenith
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wat

calm cobalt
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Any of ya know if akko ocean blue switches are good?

sly warren
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Also that is not a feature of any mouse I know of.

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If your hands fit it, I highly recommend the Orochi V2

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Very solid mouse.

timber ridge
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yea really depends on your grip type

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i would skip the orochi if you have big hands and use claw grip or something

timber ridge
sly warren
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So, fairly average hand size.

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I wouldn't want to even use it if I had my friend's gigantic 20cm x 11cm hands

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He's like 6'9"

timber ridge
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oof

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wireless mice are getting way more love

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so if he were to use palm or claw id prob recommend something else

sly warren
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Now all we need is a proper Bluetooth implementation on PC and we can have good Wireless everything!

steep pelican
sly warren
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Maybe I'm miss-remembering his hand size.

steep pelican
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My dad is 6’3” and probably 24-25 cm length

wanton wagon
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uses feet for height

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uses cm for hand

timber ridge
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do you need the wire around your neck?

sly warren
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How?!?

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Just buy a pair of Koss KSC75's and a BTR5 and call it a day.

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The BTR5 probably will be expensive for you, but they will let you use ANY pair of headphones with Bluetooth

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If you were a bit more responsible and didn't keep losing your right earbud somehow, I'd recommend the QCY T5's for a very good sounding cheap pair of TWS IEMs

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Then get KSC75's and a BTR5

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The KSC75's clip on over your ear, and the BTR5 has a clip.

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Then you just run the wire through your shirt

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And GG you have the best of both worlds.

timber ridge
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you look into sports oriented wireless earbuds with hooks?

sly warren
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sigh

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See previous statement

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KSC75's will fit any human being's ear.

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Including yours.

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I meant to say Qudelix 5K actually.

timber ridge
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tbh im not familiar with wireless earbuds with the neck band thingy

sly warren
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I keep forgetting it exists.

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Or alternatively if you think the KSC75's will somehow not fit your ear, you could get Koss PortaPros instead.

timber ridge
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isnt there a really good budget bt dac

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forgot the name but its square shape

sly warren
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That I know of? No

gloomy berry
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How cheap?

sly warren
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For a little less than the Q5K you can get the ES100

timber ridge
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i was thinking of the es100 but i could of sworn it was cheaper

gloomy berry
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Trying to find the pair I got my wife, gota check amazon history XD

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Does battery life outweigh sound quality? Pretty sure hers were less than $50 and they sound OK but not great.

sly warren
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ES100 + KSC75. The ES100 lasts around 10hr on a full charge

timber ridge
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bruh

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gotta learn how to recommend stuff that people are looking for whether if its not the best or not

gloomy berry
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Ah, the ones I got her were on Massdrop for $30 instead of $85. Not sure if you want to wait or not

timber ridge
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some ppl are looking for things that simply fit the description

sly warren
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I did.

gloomy berry
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Let me look some more tho

sly warren
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ES100 lasts more than the time they need, and would still fit the needs of a runner.

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Clip it on your shirt and go for a run

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And then the KSC75 are like, peak running headphones as long as you thread the cable through your shirt.

timber ridge
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for 50 dollars there isnt much that fits the description and i usually hate recommending them but beats flex fit the description perfectly

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50 dollar with the thing that goes around ur neck

gloomy berry
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yeah, or the Massdrop ones.

timber ridge
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yup either or

gloomy berry
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Still looking though, I had a pair on stand by that I passed on

timber ridge
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beats are more readily available so you can maybe test them out and return them easily

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and they work with apple products well iirc

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not sure if the same goes for their budget products but their more expensive stuff connects the same way as airpods

gloomy berry
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Like, just a wire that goes behind your neck or something more like a necklace that kind of rests around your neck?

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Gotcha

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You like bass or don't care?

timber ridge
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ooo if its jus wired then there is like 100x more options lmao

gloomy berry
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Nah

sly warren
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Like the KSC75

gloomy berry
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There are two kinds of bluetooth IEM

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One is just a cable

sly warren
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Or the Tin T2

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Or like, a billion other Wired IEMs

gloomy berry
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The other has an actual thing that kind of clips around the back of your neck

timber ridge
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are you talking about the plastic neckband?

gloomy berry
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Yeah

timber ridge
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ohhh ok

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gotchu

gloomy berry
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that houses the battery and BT module and stuff

timber ridge
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i think lg has stuff with the plastic neckband iirc

gloomy berry
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Yeah but Rommy doesn't want that

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Which is why I asked

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$40

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15 hour battery life

timber ridge
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if you have smaller ears id go with the headphones that are readily available in stores and amazon b4 touching drop

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return process should be much easier if you dont start with drop

gloomy berry
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For sure

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Oh wow, just found some JBL's too, stand by

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Never mind

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32" cable might be a bit long XD

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Sure

timber ridge
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so the options so far is xb400, beats flex and the drop ones?

sly warren
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Skip most anything wireless then. It's gonna accentuate Bass

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Beats, those Sonys

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Etc.

timber ridge
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im not sure how new beats tuning is but if its anything like the airpods pros then it should be fine

sly warren
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Most people are like "More bass equals more bettar"

gloomy berry
sly warren
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When, there's a GOOD way to do bass

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The KSC75's should fit exactly what you need other than not being wireless inherently.

timber ridge
gloomy berry
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Maybe XD

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Yeah

sly warren
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Well, you are already above and beyond a normal consumer

gloomy berry
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The SOny's are pretty neutral

sly warren
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You don't like gigabass

gloomy berry
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Despite being labeled as bass

sly warren
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KSC75's have slightly recessed bass, but they are very crisp and clean and don't sound muddy at all

timber ridge
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pretty sure the beats flex has usb c and a form of quick charge

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something to keep in mind while deciding

steep pelican
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Lubing switches takes so long

gloomy berry
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Yeah, they do have a quick charge actually

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Actually, I'ma side with Lance

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Those beats look the best with the smallest earpiece

sly warren
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Pretty sure they said in-ears suck because their ears are smol

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So, even those might not be smol enough.

#

I think something that actually would "clip" onto their ear would work best.

#

Hense my suggestion for KSC75's

#

And they double as Wired Headphones if they ever need them.

gloomy berry
#

You didn't listen well enough. :/

sly warren
#

The ES100 just turns them into BT headphones also

#

And really any headphones or speakers into BT headphones/speakers

gloomy berry
#

Shake N Lube?

steep pelican
#

Mmmmm that scares me

sly warren
#

Bag Lubing Springs 👌

#

Bag Lubing Housings 🤮

steep pelican
#

I require perfection

#

Main problem is that I’m watching YouTube while doing it so it’s slower lol

gloomy berry
#

That didn't take nearly as long as when I had to replace the screen cable in my Dad's laptop. Did it at their house. Asked for the laptop, they gave it to me. Got it 75% torn apart before we all realized it was my Mom's machine and not my Dad's. XD

sweet ore
#

Ouch

gloomy berry
#

Lunch was worth it XD

thick tartan
#

looking for new tactiles

#

might fo go for fekker

timber ridge
thick tartan
#

springs are prefrence i imagine or what weight

timber ridge
#

they cheaped out on springs

steep pelican
timber ridge
#

@tight pulsar you know if polia stems are similar to panda stems?

tight pulsar
#

yeah

timber ridge
#

might try to swap them in t1s housings

steep pelican
#

12 switches lubed

#

55 to go

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😦

gleaming matrix
#

Does evga make good keyboardz?

rigid valve
#

Nope

#

If you need a keyboard recommendation then I’ll need some info first

gleaming matrix
#

I just got the Corsair K60 but saw evga was having a sale on keyboards and power supplies

sly warren
#

Well, you can really only go up from that keyboard.

#

Big manufacturers don't really make the best keyboards.

gleaming matrix
#

I don't see anything wrong with it besides the lack of sound control but I set a macro for it

sly warren
#

There's a lot wrong with like 99% of the Corsair, Logitech, and Razer keyboards.

#

Mostly about build quality.

#

An actual keyboard nerd would be able to tell you the full thing.

rigid valve
#

So

#

Gamer keyboards present with a couple problems usually

#

Low-quality keycaps that aren’t very thick, occasionally shine light, and have weird “gamer” fonts
Proprietary or Cherry switches that are scratchy as hell and wobbly
Low-quality soldered PCB
Lack of screw-in stabilizer support
Lack of hotswap
Lack of QMK/VIA support (less important)
Bad build quality
Occasional/often use of optical switches, which are much less customizable

#

That’s what I can think of at the moment

cyan raven
#

anyone know a good chair

rigid valve
#

What’s ur budget

sly warren
#

Cheap: Staples Hyken Mesh
Expensive: Pick a Herman Miller and buy it used
I have no limit: Buy a new Herman Miller

cyan raven
#

chairs?

rigid valve
#

Any cheap mesh chair will do

#

Just feel it a lil

gleaming matrix
#

I was looking at the keychron but there's no way for me to test it out before I buy it

sly warren
#

Ehhhh, The Hyken Mesh is the only cheap chair I can solidly recommend

rigid valve
#

Cheap, hotswap, build quality is decent-good

gleaming matrix
#

Ye I heard dat but like ya can't try it out without buying it

sly warren
#

And?

#

I really doubt you are going to be dissatisfied by a Keychron.

#

Hell, I take the plunge on Audio gear without recommendations sometimes.

rigid valve
#

If u want 60% layout then wait until June or July when the K12 drops

gleaming matrix
#

I like the full keyboard since it's full price lol

sly warren
#

I got the HiFiMan x Drop HE-X4 without any real knowledge about it other than "It sounds like the HE400SE, but it's cheaper" and it's a very 👌

sly warren
#

Full Size Keyboards are stupid

rigid valve
#

Lol

sly warren
#

How often do you REALLY use the numpad?

gleaming matrix
#

often tbh

rigid valve
#

They have a place
But in a very very specific niche

sly warren
#

In a working situation? Yeah, I use the numpad at work a lot

rigid valve
sly warren
#

But at home? I have no use for one.

gleaming matrix
#

I don't use the arrow keys often though but I do the numb pad

#

work and gamin

rigid valve
#

You use the numpad
For GAMING!?

#

Most unusual

gleaming matrix
#

Oh not for gaming but for work

sly warren
#

Here's a big brain idea.

#

Get a 60% board, and a separate numpad

#

Bring the numpad down for work

#

Put it away for play

rigid valve
#

If u need arrows then go 65

#

75 if u want

sly warren
#

75% is the "ideal" layout for least space, most keys

rigid valve
#

This is true

cyan raven
#

i love my numpad

rigid valve
#

Mmmm

#

Preference ig

glass bear
#

Honestly I'm blissfully ignorant lol

#

My keyboard isn't spectacular but I've never had anything better so it's perfect

gleaming matrix
#

poor numpad ;-; it'd be so lonely

steep pelican
#

Bought prebuilt mech, was decent

#

Then watched YouTube

#

Now bought 200 dollar custom keeb

rigid valve
#

lmao

#

At least you actually have the money to randomly drop on a keyboard

gleaming matrix
#

My thing with the keychron is that it's built around macs at like the one I looked at the C2

#

plus the type-C

glass bear
#

i mean i do too but

#

im a little more

#

careful about what i spend it on

#

its like idk

timber ridge
#

corepads came in 4 the m800

glass bear
#

im not sure how much better a more expensive keyboard will be if i dont have an issue with this one

#

oo

#

im gonna have to order them eventually

timber ridge
#

its a lot smoother unless im experiencing the placebo effect

glass bear
#

waiting for my nicehash payout

#

yeah corepads are pretty good

timber ridge
#

feels a lot smoother

#

makes me question if its placebo or not lmao

glass bear
#

lmfao

#

i kinda want them too

#

seems like a good investment for something im probably going to use for like 2 years

#

at least

#

but never in a million years is my dad agreeing to that

#

so i gotta figure out a way to get them delivered somehow lol

#

if they were on amazon it would be super easy

timber ridge
#

gl

glass bear
#

just use the locker

#

but they arent

gritty marlin
#

sorry but all other keyboards are now cancelled

near coral
#

heyo, prob a weird question, but whats the best “prebuilt” 100% keyboard i can get? (need 100% for work, ie numpad n function keys). I don’t know much at all about keyboards, but i love the sound of holy panda switches. I currently have the red dragon s101 (its cherry mx browns i think?) and i want something thats a lil quieter for when i work late nights. Dont really care much for rgb but it would be nice. Wired is preferred

rigid valve
#

Uh

#

Uhhhhhh

near coral
#

yeah im kinda new to keyboards ngl

rigid valve
#

All I can think of is the Keychron C2 for fullsize

#

Why no build?

rigid valve
near coral
#

lack the time and knowledge

rigid valve
near coral
#

hm

rigid valve
near coral
#

i was under the impression it would take hours😂

rigid valve
#

It takes hours if u lube and film

#

But you don’t need to

#

It’s just for feel

#

And sound

near coral
#

im more of a functionality guy, but my current keyboard is EXTREMELY loud

rigid valve
#

Uh

#

Hmm

#

Would you want more of a tactile bump

#

And also do you have some sort of budget

near coral
#

id like to keep it under $100 but i just looked at the price of the switches and had no clue they went for that much

near coral
rigid valve
#

It’s hard to find cherry switches on their own

rigid valve
# near coral what does this mean?

So when you press down with a brown, there is a momentary phenomenon of increased resistance provided by the switch which then lets go

#

It may be hard to notice on browns

#

Because their resistance increase is small

near coral
#

i like to feel like im actually pushing something down if that makes sense so i would say yes tactile bump

rigid valve
#

$100 for full-size your only option basically is Keychron C2
And you could swap out the switches for Boba U4 Silents
It’d take probably half an hour to an hour

#

If even that long

#

Idk much about the Keychron hotswap sockets

#

Hotswap is a feature where you can take switches out and put them back in without soldering/desoldering them btw

near coral
#

oooooo okay

rigid valve
#

Super super useful

#

Especially if you’re lazy/scared of soldered

near coral
#

Keychron C2 104 Keys Mechanical Gaming Keyboard for Mac, Gateron Red Switch/White LED Backlight/Double Shot ABS Keycaps Full Size Wired USB C Computer Keyboard for Windows Laptop PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CN9ZV2N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ABF459YEWF1HGNZC06C2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

rigid valve
#

Just like me!

near coral
#

Like this?

rigid valve
#

Yep

near coral
#

And its hotswappable?

#

ah nvm it isnt

rigid valve
#

Oh I forgot to check mb mb

#

C2 hotswap appears to be out of stock, unfortunately

near coral
#

ah rip, thank you tho

steep pelican
#

I’m in this chat more than build chat now lol

thick tartan
#

this chat is home

rigid valve
#

Yes

#

As someone who’s PC runs everything he wants very nicely, I’m lookin for more random stuff to dump money into
Or at least fantasize about dumping money into

wanton burrow
rigid valve
#

What

wanton burrow
#

don't get how cherry switches is "hard" to find on their own

rigid valve
#

It’s not like hard

#

Not like rare

#

But the price on them can be stupid

wanton burrow
#

oh maybe vints in aftermarket?

#

haven't seen the price but the effort of getting them kinda gives a sense of its price ig

#

hypergildes are gud tho some says the springs is meh

#

it breaks in fast

sharp kindle
#

also cherry springs have always been wack

#

if you dont spring swap cherries youre doing something wrong

wanton burrow
#

lol

#

i already listed 70g tx springs kek

wanton burrow
wanton burrow
thick tartan
#

holy sheet

#

tht wpm mmmm

shut cobalt
#

i just heard the mic on the pulse 3d and i think its the best mic on gaming headset

#

better than the g pro and the virtuoso for sure

#

and its kinda insane because they cheaper than them

tight pulsar
#

why does everybody think cherry switches are expensive

#

retools are cheaper than jwks

#

and people swap the springs because they aren’t the best, they have a lot of variance (pretty sure blacks have +/- 10g where sprit has +/- 1 or 2g) and blacks have heavy springs stock

wanton burrow
#

80g bottomout with +/- 10 deviance kekw

brisk parcel
#

well

#

the sndaras are...

#

sundara

#

pads are a little wrinkled though, gonna probs take them off to let them fluff up

calm cobalt
#

Is the razer Huntsman a good keyboard to buy

tight pulsar
#

@brisk parcelyou picked up some sundaras?

west hornet
#

You have sundara now?

wanton burrow
#

most if not all "gamer" keyboards from gamer brands is aa hard guess of it being "good"

#

i'd say keychron for wireless and hotswap
womier for cheap prebuilt that's aslo great for tight budget but still wants custom board
and leopold of u just don't care about modding and just want a premium prebuilt that's not so mcuh premium in price

brisk parcel
#

@tight pulsar @west hornet I do

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sundara

#

pads have a few wrinkles but im sure they'll flatten out over time

#

gotten a lil better already

#

and I think hifiman was right about the burn in time, said abt 150 hrs and after letting them go overnight there is def an audible difference, not crazy but it'll get there

#

and surprisingly they dont sound bad tubed

west hornet
#

How you like

brisk parcel
#

oh

#

me like a lot

west hornet
#

Nice i was thinking about getting maybe one day

brisk parcel
#

yeh im excited for their final sound

#

got drop pandas coming wed the 2nd too

#

found em open box on ebay for $260

#

gonna be great for vaycay esp the 12 hr car ride lmao

tight pulsar
#

what tube/ss amps you have again?

west hornet
#

yikes long car

brisk parcel
#

@tight pulsar got an LDmk2 with stock power tubes and mullard M8161 driver tubes, I have a scarlett solo 2nd gen for my guitar which also doubles as a dac/amp combo, so does my sound blasterx G6 from creative

#

those last 2 are SS but I want a proper SS amp too

#

powering the tube with a schiit modi 3

#

well, DACing rather lmao

brisk parcel
#

damn

#

sour just hits different on these things

#

tell me sour is a bad album and will VERY MUCH disagree with you

craggy crag
#

SteelSeries Arctis 5 (2019) vs CoolerMaster MH650 vs Logitech G PRO X vs Corsair HS60 PRO ( Assuming all of them cost roughly the same, except the HS60 Pro which costs a bit less )

sly warren
#

Koss UR40 + ModMic Uni

#

It'll kick the butt of all of those headsets.

#

If you are in the UK, your major alternative would be... Creative Aurvana Live SE's

steep pelican
sly warren
#

No

#

G Pro X is a headset

steep pelican
#

Huh

sly warren
#

The mouse is called the G Pro

#

Or G Pro Wireless

steep pelican
#

Branding 100

sly warren
#

Or G Pro Wireless X Superlight

#

But, I know those are all headsets because he said Steelseries Arctis 5, and Corsair HD60 Pro

#

And MH650 technically stands for "Master Headphone 650"

steep pelican
#

I would not trust cooler master peripherals lol

sly warren
#

They used to make some pretty killer keyboards NGL

steep pelican
#

Even their pc hardware is janky

sly warren
#

And most of their headsets are re-badged Takstars

#

Their Mice are pretty good too

#

But, I will never recommend someone purchase a Gaming Headset ever.

#

Unless you only play on Console, and then at that point audio quality goes out the window anyway so just buy whatever's cheapest.

steep pelican
#

I need a new mic but I also don’t want to spend money on one.

sly warren
#

Samson Go mic is dirt cheap and sounds great.

steep pelican
#

I have some fifine usb mic that for some reason is so quiet

#

Like nobody can hear me

sly warren
#

It's also super tiny (The Samson Go)

steep pelican
#

How much is mod mic

sly warren
#

A Modmic Uni (3.5mm jack) is... 59.95? I think

gloomy berry
#

Ya

sly warren
#

Oh 49.95

gloomy berry
#

I have a ModMic

#

Works great

sly warren
#

The USB one is 79.95

#

And the Wireless one is... I think 129.95?

#

Oh, 119.95

steep pelican
#

My dad has a bunch of recording mics but I don’t think he would let me use any of them. Also I don’t have a amp and they are all xlr

#

😦

sly warren
#

The Samson Go is 39.99 and I can't confirm it sounds better than a ModMic, but it's certainly a good little mic.

steep pelican
#

My dad, even though he loves his audio stuff isn’t an audiophile somehow

#

Maybe he should be…. 🤔

#

He mixes everything on his dual Yamaha h8 studio monitors

craggy crag
steep pelican
#

@rigid valve do i go all out and make sky blue and dust proof blue frankenswitch, or do i just buy box whites lol

tight pulsar
#

bruh i sold this dude my crp tulip r3 set for 190 and i just saw him try to sell it for 200

#

is he trying to flip it because he'll probably lose money on shipping lol

steep pelican
#

and kiwis

tight pulsar
sly warren
#

Handmade my ass

timber ridge
tight pulsar
#

it's not that hard

timber ridge
#

think ill jus cop crp next drop

#

i already have some kits i wanna pick up

tight pulsar
#

r4 is ending today if u want to grab anything

timber ridge
#

yea, im really tempted

#

but there is like 1-2 epbt sets i want that is coming up

steep pelican
calm cobalt
#

Bet

gleaming pond
#

all the fruit switches look like candy

calm cobalt
#

Lool

#

go ahead

#

Thx

#

I'll look in a bit

gleaming pond
#

no

#

keke

#

even if he is already in the corsair ecosystem I'd recommend looking elsewhere for mice

#

yea I'd recommend he goes with one of those options above

timber ridge
timber ridge
calm cobalt
#

palm and towards the larger side

timber ridge
sly warren
#

And that will get you either A. Nothing because your hand is weirdly sized or B. A lot of options.

calm cobalt
timber ridge
#

vaxee has a lot of nice options for palm and wired, ninjutso origin and kone pro air are some nice wireless option

#

steelseries released a new ergo mouse but there isnt too many reviews on it since its new

sly warren
#

There's also the Deathadder V2

timber ridge
#

its on sale rn actually iirc

#

the wireless one is like 90 rn

sly warren
#

I may start using it for playing League.

#

Doing right clicks a lot with the Orochi V2 is kinda painful for some reason.

steep pelican
timber ridge
#

about the same

calm cobalt
#

Is The Ducky one 2 Mini a Good keyboard

rigid valve
#

It’s overpriced

#

Technically yes it is “good”

#

But you can prob get better stuff

#

If u need silents then ig go for it

#

But still you can probably just buy a gk61 hotswap and silent switches

wanton burrow
#

just choose ovr what i suggested to u tbh

#

it's all around a hundred dollas

graceful jetty
#

Oh hey I was just about to ask about this keyboard. I got mine used for like 70€, pretty happy with it.

#

HOWEVER, the keys are laid out in baguette formation (I bought it in France so it is expected).
This means AZERTY, you have to Shift for numbers, and all the important programming keys are hidden behind Ctrl+Alt+Something. 🤢

#

I can touch type so I tried switching it to ISO QWERTY in software, but I'm not used to the 60% layout and my laptop kb has a spanish layout so it messes with my muscle memory.

#

So I'd like to swap my keycaps. However, I really like the look, so I'd want to ideally buy an official QWERTY ISO (big enter key) keycap sett. However, I haven't been able to find one being sold anywhere online. I emailed Ducky support and they were not helpful at all.

wanton burrow
#

what keyboard

sly warren
#

I am super confused as to how you have a Spanish layout for your Laptop Keyboard, but a French layout for your new Keyboard... What country do you live in?!?

wanton burrow
#

buying it in different countries perhaps

tight pulsar
#

is this the layout you want?

daring zenith
sly warren
daring zenith
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

graceful jetty
#

I type French sometimes so accent marks are helpful, but I don't need the Ñ key. Could just remap that one since every key is a macro on this keyboard.

#

But I mainly use this rig for programming and some gaming, so easy backslash and curly braces access would be nice(r?).

graceful jetty
wanton burrow
#

ah

graceful jetty
# sly warren That must be one helluva culture shock

Y E S.
I actually grew up in Spain (where my parents got a laptop from work), then moved to the US for six years, and just this year moved to France. I've been through a lot of different cultures and languages.

wanton burrow
#

oh so any keycaps that's prob not oem neither cherry profile

graceful jetty
#

I think someone said Ducky's have the OEM profile.

#

I'd like to buy official Ducky ones if possible, since I really like the legends and the Fn+key binds are helpful.

wanton burrow
#

yea many prebuilts do use oem profile

graceful jetty
wanton burrow
#

ah yea maybe u can do so if they're not that expensive

graceful jetty
#

(yes, the baguette layout has a :/ key. It's amazing.

graceful jetty
#

Ducky has been outstandingly unhelpful in helping me buy the keycaps set. Never buying a keyboard from them again haha.

#

They claim to sell a product on their official website, but they can't help me buy it.

daring zenith
#

Well, official ones always harder to find

graceful jetty
#
graceful jetty
#

Any chance I could purchase these keycaps?

graceful jetty
#

Would it work if I buy an ANSI QWERTY set and just use the fat enter key from my current french set?

tight pulsar
#

you would need to keep the enter, pipe key, and left shift+key to the right of it

graceful jetty
#

oh that's fine then, sweet

tight pulsar
graceful jetty
#

So now I just need to find a way to give money to Ducky so they sell me the US keyset that they claim they sell but doesn't exist.

#

noice

#

maybe I should just sell my keyboard and buy a new one.

#

since buying keycaps is literally impossible

steep pelican
graceful jetty
graceful jetty
steep pelican
graceful jetty
#

yes

steep pelican
#

Well just changing keycap sets wouldn’t change the binds for the keys

#

So the macros would still be the same

graceful jetty
#

It defaults to a US keyboard lol

#

I had to change it to 🥖 in the Linux setup

steep pelican
#

Oh ok

graceful jetty
#

But I'm considering selling this one and buying a TKL QWERTY one instead.

steep pelican
#

If it has all the legends you want

#

I would sell and buy new one

#

But if you find keycap set with the side legends I would just buy those and swap em

graceful jetty
#

ye

steep pelican
#

I’m not entirely sure how many keycap sets have those special side legends considering most keycap sets aren’t specifically made for 60% keebs with multiple function layers

graceful jetty
#

Any TKL keyboard you'd recommend? The Ducky ones seem overpriced to me at 169€ (nice) here in baguette land.
I like the s h i n y backlights and the per-key macro. Using cherry speed silver switches but I can adapt.

steep pelican
#

What do you use for the macros?

#

Is it just ducky software of some sort?

graceful jetty
#

They're "hardware macros"

steep pelican
#

Oh

#

Let me get on my pc to look something up

#

Cause 169 euros is a hefty price

graceful jetty
#

You press a special key combo to record it to the on-kb memory, and then it works anywhere. I've macroed the arrow keys that way and it works on any OS.

graceful jetty
steep pelican
graceful jetty
#

It's $206

steep pelican
#

206 dollars oh my

graceful jetty
#

y e a h

#

*laughs in no-income student*

steep pelican
#

My new custom keeb cost 210 dollars and the board was 130 by itself

graceful jetty
#

O W

#

I paid 70€ for my current keyboard locally, and that was already pushing the budget.

#

I have a full-size G.Skill keyboard that I used before this one, but its Cherry Brown switches are way too loud.

#

(also it's too big to fit on my desk, at least with my current setup.

steep pelican
#

Ahh Cherry brown, the crunchiest linear

graceful jetty
#

I have only experienced browns and speed silvers, so no idea about other switches

steep pelican
#

Hmm

graceful jetty
#

Just need it to not feel like garbage (and preferably feel good?) while not being mega loud

steep pelican
#

I’m not too familiar with pre built keyboards

graceful jetty
#

Can I build my own on a budget?

steep pelican
#

Yes, though I don’t know how many budget boards there are with decent macro support

#

My board I know supports Via a software that does really nice macro layer stuff

graceful jetty
#

Can I make my own firmware? I do a lot of programming, could be a fun project.

graceful jetty
steep pelican
#

I want to help but I can’t use my computer rn

#

And have limited knowledge of prebuilt

graceful jetty
#

I can wait, thanks a lot!

graceful jetty
steep pelican
# graceful jetty Is this a possibility btw?

I do not know much about programming and how keyboard firmware works, but I assume some one has done it. It probably works better with certain keyboards I would have to guess

#

Maybe someone has made YouTube video on it

graceful jetty
#

hmm.. sounds a bit scary actually. I'll wait in case someone else can recommend a prebuilt ^^

steep pelican
#

I’m building my keyboard rn actually

#

Lubing is a tedious process

steep pelican
#

Yep

graceful jetty
#

oof. sounds very involved

west hornet
#

(╹◡╹)

graceful jetty
#

But congrats on actually doing it, sounds awesome

#

hi Ghosty

steep pelican
west hornet
#

Very nice i like the shape of them more and they sound pretty good. Will be my new travel iems

steep pelican
#

Nice

steep pelican
#

40 switches down, 27 to go

brisk parcel
#

@tight pulsar @west hornet amazon is shipping me replacement sundaras

#

seems those earpads are actually messed up

#

so the replacement comes on wed.

#

I contacted hifiman to get new pads as well lmao so like

#

if I can, ya know

#

keep em both 😉

tight pulsar
#

👀 i may be interested in getting some later

brisk parcel
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no, now

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do it now

graceful jetty
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lol

tight pulsar
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no i’m poor now

calm cobalt
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i wrote this on the walmart ipad lol

steep pelican
calm cobalt
steep pelican
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I see

calm cobalt
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i can’t lie membrane keyboards actually don’t sound bad

steep pelican
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Some

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I tried to tell friend to get keychron but he said he wants cherry because they make you better at gaming

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😐

calm cobalt
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okay i don’t know that much about keyboards but that’s so stupid

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peripherals aren’t gonna make u better 😆

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is he a rgb = fps kid

steep pelican
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Cherry switches are not good quality

steep pelican
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I really want to buy gmk set now

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But group buys

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But gmk lavender looking so nice

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Are they clicky

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Or just loud

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Idk I’ve never looked at hyperx reds but they might just be rebranded outemu or gateron reds

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I’d avoid gaming keyboards in general

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Keychron c2 hotswap rgb is like 65

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And much better build quality prob

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Rip

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Almost done with new keeb and maybe will buy some more switches

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I like linears but I have never tried tactile so I’m going to

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Probably speed silver copy

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Blues and greens are clickies and have a different feel and mechnaism

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All depends on materials used

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And board

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Could be a red copy

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45g actuation actually sounds like a red

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But the travel distance is so short

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Reds have like 4 mm

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Might buy 3rd keeb

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In a min

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No they are very different

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You can’t have a cross

daring zenith
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uh

steep pelican
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It could be so loud because the bottom out happens very fast and the spring is really light

daring zenith
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you can't just have something in-between flat and bump
if there's a bump, it's not flat any more :P

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anyways

steep pelican
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Hmm do I go boba u4t, wait for kiwi restock, or do I save money and get t1s

daring zenith
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hm

steep pelican
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or spend 1 dollar a switch on cherry mx browns

daring zenith
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I thought t1 was cheaper than u4t?

steep pelican
daring zenith
steep pelican
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Meant save some money by getting t1s

daring zenith
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aight

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t1 is neat either way

steep pelican
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True

steep pelican
daring zenith
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I did lube them a bit, a bit better, but stock was also nice

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(I lubed like 15 T1s, left rest stock because I was lazy and ran out of time)

steep pelican
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Hmm might keep stock since I don’t feel like buying tribosys rn

daring zenith
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I used 205g0

steep pelican
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Oh

daring zenith
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for everything

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spring too

steep pelican
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Well Idk if I feel like lubing everything since I haven’t even finished lubing my gat yellows

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40/67 done

daring zenith
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yea I kinda broke some switches by lubing so uh

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yeaaaa

steep pelican
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I broke a top housing

daring zenith
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lesson learnt was don't jam the copper leaf in when lubing it

steep pelican
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But that’s about it

daring zenith
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because the switch doesn't look like it's broken

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it just doesn't work any more

steep pelican
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Switch films are my enemy

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They never want to go on easy

daring zenith
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lol

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I'm just not going to film

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too annoying

steep pelican
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Good, I play esports titles only NYEHE

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I need new cpu for video editing but I also don’t want to buy one

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Cause monies

glad yarrow
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what test

steep pelican
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User benchmark Cringe

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Hmm nice

glad yarrow
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you have an 8690M?

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Just because it prforms worse than a 3080 doesnt mean it suddenly bad...

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If you dont need extra performance you dont need a new pc.

timber ridge
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ktt roses finally restocked if anyone is interested

rigid valve
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Poggers

steep pelican
timber ridge
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yup