peripherals-and-displays

[daring zenith]

think so

[upbeat portal]

anyone else have any suggestions for good headphones

[sly warren]

I mean, I could throw out more suggestions, but for your request of "More Bass" and your budget, the CAL SE's are basically ideal.

[upbeat portal]

prob will go with that samsung go mic though, easiest thing to work with.

[daring zenith]

cal se in stock again eh

[sly warren]

The CAL SE's are basically the baby brother of the ultimate Basshead Headphone, the E-MU Teak.

And E-MU Teaks are like, 500 bucks

[remote zodiac]

GSP 500

[sly warren]

Oof

[remote zodiac]

I know! but wife suprised me for my birthday

[sly warren]

I'm not saying oof in a good way.

[remote zodiac]

I know

[sly warren]

They aren't the worst Gaming headset, but... The PC38X is a little better.

[remote zodiac]

again.. was a gift

[upbeat portal]

yikes, yeah I don't have the budget for a 500$ pair of headphones but I could do $75-$80 with the go mic included in the ~100 budget

if you have any other suggestions, more balanced ones or other bass-focused ones

[sly warren]

Yeah let's see... for the GSP 500, I'd pair it with a https://www.schiit.com/products/hel-2

[remote zodiac]

even still, the sound is MUCH better than the G35s I had before

[sly warren]

If you want more balance, I'd look at the Koss UR40 or AKG K361 (The K361 would need to be on Sale)

https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Headphones-K361/dp/B07X2LQRCF

And they actually are.

[remote zodiac]

nice! you even matched the colour! 🤣

[sly warren]

80 USD

[daring zenith]

hel/fulla fun

[upbeat portal]

Huh alr I'll take a look at the k361

[sly warren]

That's more of an accident. Schiit has 2 colorways, Red and Black or Silver. And the Hel just happens to be in the Red/Black colorway.

[remote zodiac]

ill take it as a sign anyway.

[sly warren]

And apparently Schiit also sells B-Stock devices, so on Wednesday or Thursday i'll be buying a B-Stock Magni/Modi stack

[daring zenith]

oh fun

[sly warren]

Ok, that's hilarious

https://www.schiit.com/products/coaster

[sweet ore]

Also, I can't really give recs on audio equipment. I don't know enough and am wise enough to know that. But I can at least warn the person asking for recs when a particular user is known for getting focused on their preferences.

[sly warren]

Schiit sells a set of 4 "Coasters" that if you want to take the time to solder and buy all the parts, you could build your own hybrid amp

[upbeat portal]

k361 is closed back, but how much does that actually alter the audio quality

[sly warren]

Closed Backs tend to have a little smaller sound stage, but offer better Bass.

Open Backs tend to have bigger sound stage, with a little less Bass.

People game on both.

[upbeat portal]

is sound stage just referring to the range of frequencies or?

[sly warren]

Hell, most professional gamers when playing in Tournament use In Ear Monitors for game audio

Sound Stage is referring to how "Wide" the sound feels.

Typically a wider soundstage can help in competitive games.

[daring zenith]

lmao

The coasters are amazing

[upbeat portal]

yeah I'm just looking for audio quality though, I don't do competitive gaming really

[sweet ore]

I can't stand in-ear headphones/earbuds. It hurts my ears.

[sly warren]

If you just want pure quality for the money, the the K361's are gonna offer super good quality and high accuracy.

Just don't forget the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm dongle

[upbeat portal]

yeah I'm way more comfortable with headphones rather than earbuds

Hm alrighty

[sly warren]

That will help to improve the audio beyond what your motherboard can output.

And since the K361's are pretty easy to drive, you won't need to replace that dongle for a separated DAC and Amp.

Hmm, I'm starting to run out of wall sockets...

And I'm about to buy an Amp that needs a wall socket...

[upbeat portal]

I'm beginning to hunt for a 3080 so I assume a card of that caliber would be a bit less delicate on the audio?

[sly warren]

Yes

A 3080 will output a lot of EMI

Enough to distort audio coming from the motherboard.

[upbeat portal]

alrighty yeah, I'll make sure to grab a USB-C to 3.5mm, I do have a single USB-C port on my case so

[sly warren]

Is it actually hooked up?

[upbeat portal]

to the mobo? yeah

[sly warren]

👌

[upbeat portal]

I haven't tested it but

it's hooked up

the O11-D XL has actually four front USB ports and I had no idea, I thought it was just two + the USB-C

but there's just an extra two little USB ports chilling at the very bottom

but anyways I'll probably go with the K361, sometime this summer I'll get a new desk too so I'll have more room for a better mic to slap on the desk

[daring zenith]

b stock magni modi does sound neat

10$ off each

[sly warren]

Yeah

[upbeat portal]

for now though the samsung go looks good

[sly warren]

It's not Samsung

It's Samson

[upbeat portal]

lmao I completely misread that

[sly warren]

It's aight

[daring zenith]

tho I remember magni heresy being better than magni 3+ or smth

[sly warren]

I heard the opposite

The Heresy being worse than the 3+

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring zenith]

wack

[upbeat portal]

I know almost nothing about audio so yeah, thanks for the help guys.

[west hornet]

They are very close. Dont matter too much

[sweet ore]

Could be a case of people having different opinions on the gear.

[daring zenith]

prob

[west hornet]

I think i heard the 3+ had slightly higher distortion but idk

[tight pulsar]

from what i remember they basically sound the same

[wanton burrow]

if this is gonna be some cringe gasket mount like gmmk pro i'll be disappointed

well, the weight's kewl and all but huh imma see if they'll value sound & feel rather than features

like how they advertise the norm features in custom kits

[daring zenith]

we'll see

[devout fiber]

yeah found that out, that's annoying

[steep pelican]

Hopefully it won’t be 170 either lol

[wanton burrow]

it's gonna be less than 200 it's gonna be fine

[steep pelican]

I’d be down to buy like a 140-150 dollar board but since I’m going to grab other switches anyways idk if I’d pay more than that

[wanton burrow]

tho they mainly should just make the gasket implementation good or else it won't go well in the custom market and will just be sold to the keychron simps

[wanton burrow]

75% is a big board

big board and "budget" would look hella weird

budget alu tkl is like $250-320 iirc

[steep pelican]

Yeah sadly

I really want 75%

[wanton burrow]

for 100-150 there's already good 60-65%

[steep pelican]

Yeah, hopefully comes with decent keycaps and can avoid paying for more keycaps

[wanton burrow]

d60lite, kbd67 lite, ck's bakeneko 60

[wanton burrow]

i thnk they'll prob gonna do that as well

[steep pelican]

Why can’t my switches come earlier 😦 I just want to build my kbd67 lite already

[wanton burrow]

but weird to sell it both as a kit and as a prebuilt tbh

[wanton burrow]

u aalrady have the 67 lite?

[steep pelican]

Yeah

[wanton burrow]

so that's the r1 then ig

[steep pelican]

Canceled gmmk pro

[steep pelican]

Nah I checked pcb it’s r2

[wanton burrow]

u bought it from mechanicalkeyboards?

[steep pelican]

Yeah

[wanton burrow]

wait the r2 already shipped out?

[wanton burrow]

ok that's the r1 then

[steep pelican]

Hmm you sure? I’m fairly certain it said r2, and it also has screw in stabs

[wanton burrow]

the instock 67 lites are r1

[wanton burrow]

both has screw-ins kek

[steep pelican]

Well then I’ll send pic of pcb when I get home

[wanton burrow]

r1 has cherry screw ins while r2 uses kbdfans screw-ins

[wanton burrow]

nah tbh the r2 is still in production, no need

[steep pelican]

Any way to differentiate between those two stabs?

[wanton burrow]

the gb orders isn't even out yet lol

[wanton burrow]

the r2 isn't out. it's still all r1 kits

[steep pelican]

K I’ll take your word for it I guess…

I wonder if the keychron is going to be a gb

Or if it’s just going to be retail

I’d be down to grab it for 150, throw in 60 bucks of switches, and call it a day with a 210 dollar build

[sly warren]

I think it's gonna be retail

Just like the GMMK Pro

[steep pelican]

I’m just wondering if it’s going to take 6 months to get it or if I can order and get it in a week

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep pelican]

What the heck

My package

I live in AZ

What is happening

[sly warren]

What did you buy?

[steep pelican]

Switches and stuff

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep pelican]

Sad, they are going to come on Friday

Hmm usps still says in CA

It doesn’t take that long to get from CA to AZ why are they coming Friday 😦

[west hornet]

dw my goes from china > illinois > berlin > new york

[steep pelican]

Did you get them yet

[west hornet]

noppe but they are close, i estimate today or tomorrow

[steep pelican]

Nice

[fluid ridge]

Razer BlackShark v2 Pro vs Razer Nari Ultimate?

[sly warren]

Neither.

If you are spending that much on a headset, you can afford a separated mic and headphones.

Which will give you significantly better performance audio wise for both the Mic and Headphones.

[fluid ridge]

What combination would you prefer?

[sly warren]

How much money are you willing to spend?

[rigid valve]

What’s the budget exactly

[fluid ridge]

Around $200

[rigid valve]

Oh damn

[fluid ridge]

For the mic and headphones combined

[rigid valve]

Do u want a seperate mic or an inline mic

[fluid ridge]

Idk

[rigid valve]

Uh

Ok

[fluid ridge]

What do you recommend?

[rigid valve]

Well

What are u using the mic for

Just gaming?

[sly warren]

I recommend a separate mic if you have the desk space to clamp to it

[rigid valve]

Yeah

[sly warren]

Or just get a Samson Go mic

As for the Headphones themselves, I recommend the AKG K361, they are relatively balanced, comfortable, and won't break the bank

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X2LQRCF

[rigid valve]

Yea

[sly warren]

If you want something a little more traditional for your mic with a boom arm and everything, I recommend https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Dynamic-Microphone-Recording-Podcasting/dp/B086R7G439/ref=sr_1_3

[rigid valve]

Also if you want to bump up your headphones and settle for a worse mic K371s are solid as well

[sly warren]

I just got the Q2U and it's an excellent plug and play mic.

If that's not in the budget, then https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Mic-Portable-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B001R76D42/ref=?dchild=1&keywords=Samson+Go+Mic&qid=1621964123&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-2

[rigid valve]

If you want an inline then just get a modmic
Do not get the vmoda if you plan on buying any sort of DAC or DAC+AMP

[sly warren]

And also don't forget to buy https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter

This will help make the AKG's sound better.

I'm not joking

That little 9 dollar dongle will sound better than your motherboard audio

[fluid ridge]

Great!

Thanks!

[rigid valve]

Anytime

[golden bear]

Is the death adder good for a palm grip

[timber ridge]

yea but its on the heavier side iirc

[steep pelican]

Death adder v2 is pretty light I thought

I mean it’s def light compared to g502

[timber ridge]

there is plenty of lightweight ergo shape mice tho

[sly warren]

Yeah, if you want an Ergo Large mouse for Palm Grip the Deathadder V2 isn't bad.

[main crest]

Any good cheap mouses and keyboards you guys know of?

For gaming

[daring zenith]

not that cheap

[west hornet]

FINALLY

[daring zenith]

20,000 miles traveled later

[west hornet]

ya xD

[sly warren]

Where did your Arias get held hostage?

Or did they literally circumnavigate the globe?

[west hornet]

either circumnavigate or tracking error, china > us > berlin > us xD

[sly warren]

Should have just waited for Amazon Prime shipping

[west hornet]

i don't use prime

[sly warren]

F

[wanton burrow]

any keyboard is for gaming. not someone who knows about mice but u can give us ur hand size and grip style and also budget so they can suggest more easily

[sly warren]

Yeah, Ophi is correct.

[main crest]

Like a general idea if I have a big hand of small one

Or actual size in inches?

[wanton burrow]

actual size

[main crest]

It's about 8 inches

From bottom of my palm

To the top of my middle finger

[steep pelican]

fairly big if you claw or palm deathadder v2 is nice

[main crest]

Hmm

Lemme check it out

Oh so it's pretty big?

😏

[calm cobalt]

I just got a pc and i wanted to get a speaker set. I was considering just a soundbar. Any recs?

[brisk parcel]

@calm cobalt what's your price point?

I'm not the best at picking soundbars cause I dont really look at them much but I can try lmao

also

today is a good day boys

got sundaras comin saturday, and drop pandas sometime next week

[gloomy berry]

Klipsch

[brisk parcel]

got the pandas in "open box" condition for only $260 compared to $400

and somebody at work today bought my 5XX for $200 so he'll get those on friday, and I bought sundaras since I saved so much money

so

my first pair of Mid-Fi headphones, and some really bangin wireless ANC cans, im excited for both

I do still kinda need a solid state amp tho

I have my scarlett solo gen 3(I think gen 3) from focusrite and a sound blasterx G6 from creative for my 2 "solid state" amps

but the G6 and Scarlett act as combos

[rigid valve]

Why need 2 amp

[brisk parcel]

its just what I have

[rigid valve]

Oh ok

[brisk parcel]

I use my scarlett when I play guitar

and the G6 was when I had cloud 2s and was all gamer-y

do still love its quality though, it really does hold up well

and for my tube amp I got an LDMK2

[rigid valve]

So 2 amp isn’t like a thing u need

It’s just what u had

[brisk parcel]

with some mullard M8161 driver tubes, very nice I was able to get them I LOVE them, absolutely great.

and yeah

its what I had

for like a real just purely AMP im thinkin like a magni 3 or sum to start out, probs something a little better

the only reason the tubes aint really viable is cause planars dont like tube amps well a lot because of the power requirements and stuff

[calm cobalt]

no more than 150

[west hornet]

for speakers you can try Edifier R1700BT, Micca RB42, or Fluance SX6. I hear they are decent in the price range as long as you have device with correct outputs

[vagrant mica]

what do peopel think of the k70 tkl tourney edition by corsair?

[steep pelican]

Corsair

Most “gaming” keyboards are pretty mehhh

[timber ridge]

corsair really makes no good peripherals

[sly warren]

You picked a really good pair of headphones (Sundaras) and a really meh pair of headphones (Pandas)

[brisk parcel]

well I wanted wireless

and ANC

and not trash

[sly warren]

So get XM3's

[brisk parcel]

and planars

me like planar

[sly warren]

Planar and Wireless doesn't really do anything.

There's not enough power in Wireless.

And, The ANC on the Pandas is... not good.

And they don't really sound good either.

[brisk parcel]

eh I looked at the XM3s and I got to demo them at best buy the other day

[sly warren]

Your best option for ANC Wireless is... no joke Airpods Pros

[brisk parcel]

definitely not what I wanted lmao, demoed the pandas from someone at work and like them, so maybe my ears are scuffed, but I like them more lmao

and I dont care so much about ANC

[sly warren]

Or if you are an Android user, the Galaxy Buds Pro

[brisk parcel]

they were just a nice to have for me

[sly warren]

Then why did you buy the Drop Pandas?

You could have just bought a Qudelix 5K for your Sundaras and called it a day.

🤦‍♂️

[brisk parcel]

because I wanted them and only paid $260 and still wanted planar and still wanted wireless?

I mean look man I look at it this way

try it, and if I like it, I'm happy

[sly warren]

Qudelix 5K is 109.99 and gives you Wireless Sundaras

https://www.amazon.com/Qudelix-5K-Bluetooth-Adaptive-Unbalanced-Balanced/dp/B088F7C976

[brisk parcel]

you missed my whole point of wanting something that keeps sound out

I'm going on vacay in 2 weeks, dont wanna listen to my fam for 12 hours in a car

no chance

so, yeah

[sly warren]

If you want to keep sound out, the Pandas are not it.

[brisk parcel]

they made a really good seal on my ears 🤷‍♂️

[sly warren]

Gal Buds Pro seal better and have better ANC

[brisk parcel]

dont wanna seem like I'm not taking your recommendations, but I just like them 😂

[sly warren]

Same for AP Pro

Gal buds pro also cost like 80 bucks less

[brisk parcel]

once again, I still like them, and got a good deal on them, therefore I bought them, like idk what else to tell ya other than that, I looked at other options and didnt want buds, I already have 1more quads and they make a nice seal, but I wanted something more than that, that wasnt buds

so

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk parcel]

idk what to tell you lmao, I dont plan on making my sundaras wireless

[sly warren]

Why not though? Wireless Sundaras as an option is like, badass.

[brisk parcel]

because I just don't want to?

I have no need to?

[sly warren]

I mean, the Qudelix 5K can make ANY (Maybe not something stupid hard to drive) headphone wireless.

[brisk parcel]

but

I don't want to

[sly warren]

If they were easy enough to drive, you could have Wireless Focal Clears or Focal Utopia

[brisk parcel]

my 5XX are wired, my 6XX are wired, my 600s are wired, dont want to make them wireless nor do I plan on it

[sly warren]

I was just trying to give you a cheaper solution that will sound better, or at least be more useful than just outright buying ANOTHER pair of headphones for a new purpose.

Please tell me you have an amp and DAC for all of those...

[brisk parcel]

meh, im crazy so, plus it doesnt take into account all of what I want

and yes, ive been here a while, I do

[sly warren]

Also why did you buy 3 pairs of headphones that sound basically identical.

[brisk parcel]

now imma go schleep

once again

me crazy

[sly warren]

Like, I'd sell the 5XX and 6XX and keep the 600's and Sundaras.

[brisk parcel]

well yes, if you read, I did sell them, going to someone from work on friday

[sly warren]

600's don't have the veiling issue of the 6XX/650, and if you have 600's you just don't need 5XX because 5XX are straight worse.

[brisk parcel]

they're a lot more open to me

not nearly as intimate as the 600s

okay speaking of work I need to sleep, gnight

[tight pulsar]

finally got both boards rebuilt, ignore the scuffed caps on the bottom board

[steep pelican]

What keycaps are those

[tight pulsar]

SAD dyesubs+gmk cmyw on the 60 (ansi enter+pipe are taken from the doubleshots hence why they have the wrong keys on the alice), og doubleshots on the alice with random keys from the dyesub numpad

[steep pelican]

I want gmk set

Looks nice tho

I might buy gmk lavender when it goes live

[timber ridge]

i dont think ill ever get a gmk set

[steep pelican]

I don’t have patience for gmk set

If I ever get one it’ll be off mech market

Waiting a year for something

Ahhhh

[tight pulsar]

i just got the cmyw kit of somebody on gh for a good price, had them planned for a wob build that never happened so now i just use them on biege

[vagrant mica]

idk what to get then

[steep pelican]

whats gh?

[steep pelican]

keychron, swap keycaps ez

gamer time

[vagrant mica]

tkl k8?

[steep pelican]

that works, i recommend buying off amazon tho

[vagrant mica]

also is there liek a software to program macros and stuff

wait nvm

[steep pelican]

no i dont think so

[vagrant mica]

whats the diffrence beetween optical and normal switches

[steep pelican]

idk optical are supposedly faster, but id personally just go normal cause you can find new switches to put in later, also i recommend getting hotswap version

[neon quartz]

Zwei#7497 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vagrant mica]

https://www.amazon.com/YMDK-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard-Gradient/dp/B07GGTF6XZ/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=YMDK&qid=1622004767&sr=8-10

these keycaps slap

[wanton burrow]

optical uses laser and the laser connection being cut is where it actuates

norml is just copper leaf contact points

[wanton burrow]

geekhack ig

[vagrant mica]

so is normal better? especially if i wanted to get diffrent switches in the future

[wanton burrow]

yea coz alot more options

[steep pelican]

oh yeah makes sense

[wanton burrow]

optical switches uses different styles so that makes the switch diversity very smol

[steep pelican]

opticals just kinda seem budget and you kinda really only see them in gaming keebs or prebuilts

[wanton burrow]

gluck finding one on a gb price

[steep pelican]

yeah looking at it now ill probably stick to instock options 😦

What i plan to get next

[wanton burrow]

it's all collector's item so price after productions is uh

yea

[steep pelican]

yeah i would get group buy price but a year is a long time

[wanton burrow]

instock gmk sucks a well

[wanton burrow]

u can pay then forget that u did

[steep pelican]

yeah i meant like cheaper non gmk stuff

[wanton burrow]

then the gmk set will come to u liike a surprise

[steep pelican]

id buy gmk lavenders

gb makes me die

tho

[wanton burrow]

welp gmk is the most known yet one of the slowest manus

[steep pelican]

gmk needs to get more factories smh

[wanton burrow]

since alot of people design a set and give it to gmk

[steep pelican]

47 week production and shipping time 😐

switches coming tomorrow hopefully

still havent ordered switch puller tho

cause im dumb

[wanton burrow]

lol

ok puller is so cheap

[steep pelican]

yeah but i need to sell bitcoins and transfer monies to my debit card and parents have to approve transfer and uhh

"why are you buying more keyboard stuff you should be focusing on school"

[wanton burrow]

[sharp kindle]

lol i have a corsair headset

v lit

[sharp kindle]

they alr tripled machinery apparently

its just that there are lots of sets with tedious color matching and sublegends

queue is literally filled with hiragana/katakana

[wanton burrow]

wait is crp as open as other keycap manus to community designs?

[sharp kindle]

no

crp does beige and just beige

[wanton burrow]

awww

[wanton burrow]

master mode so painful

[neon quartz]

Lone_Ninja#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brisk parcel]

@sly warren that was my bad, sorry for the ghost ping. anyway, I'm still not buying the qudelix 5K since I don't need it, but I do need something portable that I can store all my music on that will work with tidal. I doubt something like that is possible because I know all of those things are usually MP3/FLAC, but I'm open to options

my phone's only got 32 gigs of storage, and most of it is used up because apple sucks

[sly warren]

So buy a Used Android phone and call it a day.

[brisk parcel]

please dont suggest getting another phone, and yup that's what I was expecting lmao

[sly warren]

One with expandable storage.

That's 100% the solution. Most used Android Phones are going to kick butt compared to a DAP

A DAP with the functionality you want is gonna cost like, 1 grand.

While you could buy just about any Android Phone and not use it as a phone and instead use it for storing Tidal stuff and playing it back.

That's the big brain play.

[brisk parcel]

I guess I could, alright

[west hornet]

I hear apple music is adding lossless

[steep pelican]

If switches dont come today I’m going to be sad

[sly warren]

Yeah, but none of Apple's current headphones support it

It's hilarious.

[west hornet]

500usd headphone lol

[sly warren]

You can't even use the Airpods Max with the Lightning connection to get Lossless piped into them

[west hornet]

Is it supported with normal headphone

[sly warren]

Yeah.

[west hornet]

Nice

[sly warren]

An Apple Dongle will totally output Lossless CD Quality Audio

And that's really all you need is Lossless CD Quality. Anything beyond the Red Book audio standard for Music is basically placebo.

Human hearing really only caps out at the 44.1khz range.

[west hornet]

Good thing i not human

[sly warren]

Riiight

[latent hull]

sadness the kbd67lite wont start shipping until the 25th of june

[steep pelican]

Ha imagine not getting it on mechanical keyboard .com

I already got mine and I ordered it last Friday

[lapis sparrow]

Huntsman mini or huntsman TE

?

[latent hull]

That is the r1 version of the kbd67lite and also I wouldve been on a trip for the time that it would be delivered and I dont need it just this minute

[steep pelican]

Hmm question, when putting in switches is it really necessary to hold the back of pcb or can I have it just put switches in when the board is put together

[daring zenith]

I don't believe you have to hold the back of pcb when board is put together

[glass bear]

razer huntsman mini 65%

is 180 dollars

shee

[lavish cosmos]

I think its 120

Oh thats the 60%

[steep pelican]

Razer keyboards ahhh

[thick tartan]

^

[lapis sparrow]

I mean the 60

130 or 120 bucks i think

[lapis sparrow]

Ahhh?

I want to buy a 60 keyboard

Gmmk compact or huntsman mini?

[sly warren]

GMMK Compact would be way better

[daring zenith]

gmmk pro or the normal gmmk

[lapis sparrow]

Compact idk

60

[daring zenith]

lemme check when the keychron 60 board starts shipping

[strong atlas]

I got the Razer huntsman mini

[daring zenith]

hm, june

[strong atlas]

And its actually bad for typing.

[lapis sparrow]

I have those instock in my country

[daring zenith]

what

they just released the k12, it's on pre-order

[lapis sparrow]

They are in stock in my country

[lapis sparrow]

I cant get them

[daring zenith]

???

[lapis sparrow]

Between those. Which one?

[glass bear]

I'll sned mine

[daring zenith]

gmmk, even though it has some not so good bits, it's still hotswap and better than huntsman mini

[glass bear]

https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Illumination-Compatible/dp/B08BYB46VS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=drevo+seer+pro&qid=1622047748&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFZQUs5V1pMT0ExNFEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4OTM1NjgyV1pLQ05LVFA3SVhZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMDAwNTk2V1Q5R0IxSDdORlYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

im no

expert

[lapis sparrow]

Hmmm. Thanks all of you.

[glass bear]

so i cant really offer you a good review

but i saw bluetooth 5 and gateron reds for 54 dollars

[lapis sparrow]

Gaming?

[glass bear]

i have this keyboard

[daring zenith]

prob bad board heh

[sly warren]

Yeah, cause it has a stupid light switch

The Razer Red Optical switches you can BREATHE on them to actuate them

I'm not joking

[glass bear]

lmfao

reds are superior though

[daring zenith]

depends on preference

[sly warren]

No?

[daring zenith]

imo, tactile is

[glass bear]

in my experience

blues are too noisy

but i also had a really bad

[sly warren]

Reds are good yes, but they are far from a superior switch

[glass bear]

blue keyboard

[daring zenith]

I assume they mean from only the gateron offerings

[glass bear]

like if you remember the video linus did

[daring zenith]

well yellow exists but ye

[glass bear]

the one with cheap keyboard

[sly warren]

There's also more than just Reds for Linear switches.

[glass bear]

i had the keyboard that looked like a typewriter

from that video

[daring zenith]

linear switches are weird, can't remember all of them

[sly warren]

There's Gat Yellows, Gat Blacks, and a myriad of other Linear switches.

[glass bear]

because my dad got it for me as a surprise gift for getting on school math team and i didnt have the heart to return it lol

[strong atlas]

Gaming is actually good

Just not for typing.

[daring zenith]

all I know is gat yellow, the akko cs one, and one of the food-named switches

[glass bear]

what are gateron yellows

as in

linear? tactile?

[daring zenith]

it's a good linear switch

[strong atlas]

They’re apparently the “fastest” switch.

[glass bear]

how does it compare to a red

[daring zenith]

slightly heavier spring than red iirc

[glass bear]

shorter bottom out

?

[daring zenith]

uh

why do you want shorter

[strong atlas]

gAmInG

[glass bear]

no just asking

[daring zenith]

and bottom out should be about the same for all cherry style switches?

[sly warren]

Bottom out doesn't matter

It's Actuation that does.

[daring zenith]

actuation point matters tho

[glass bear]

damn yellows actually sound so good

[daring zenith]

hehe

[glass bear]

more pressure probably stops mistype

[daring zenith]

yellow is great, but basically no one offers them already in a board

[lapis sparrow]

Gmmk with what switches?

[daring zenith]

gmmk lets you choose

[glass bear]

o

that sucks

[daring zenith]

I think they have gat

[sly warren]

Yes

Also don't forget to Lube your Linears

[strong atlas]

Check out Holy Pandas

[daring zenith]

I'm still keychron advocate for whenever gmmk is the choice

[sly warren]

That helps

[daring zenith]

nah, t1

[lapis sparrow]

Yeah but which one is better for gaming?

[daring zenith]

hehe

all preference

[strong atlas]

I’ll check it out

[daring zenith]

there is no absolute in keyboards

[lapis sparrow]

I got my first build . I dont have preference lol.

[glass bear]

https://www.amazon.com/DoubleW-Typewriter-Mechanical-Detachable-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B07XVCP7F5/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=typewriter+mechanical&qid=1622048109&sr=8-3

this was

the first one i got

lol

it broke so my dad got a refund

[strong atlas]

The first mechanical keyboard I got was a dirt cheap pictek blue switch keyboard.

[glass bear]

the keys were super wobbly and the fact that it was high profile didnt help either

[strong atlas]

25$

[thick tartan]

honestly for a 75% keyboard a couple mods to the gmmk and its def an okay board/build for the price

but at tht point i would just get a decent kit off KBD fans etc. and call it a day

[daring zenith]

Keychron ftw

[daring zenith]

Tbh I believe browns are best for first build just because tactile masterrace, and if you don't like tactile, it's not that tactile

[thick tartan]

i think my only complaint for the gmmk pro is the south facing pcb, gasket mounts it uses, and their "goat stabs".

[daring zenith]

Lol

[lapis sparrow]

I think so. But im trying to find a ducky one 2 mini.

[daring zenith]

Bruh

Get Keychron

[thick tartan]

the case itself is pretty clean

[daring zenith]

Hehe

[thick tartan]

def get keychron

duckys and anne pro are OP

[daring zenith]

Still dunno what you meant by this tho

Keychron ships globally

[lapis sparrow]

I mean I am in iran

They dont ship here

[daring zenith]

Ick

@lapis sparrow wait

Sad

[lapis sparrow]

Yup. Always

[steep pelican]

Same bottom out, but 10g heavier bottom out force. They can get a really nice thocc sound when lubed and filmed

Also there’s a gmmk compact what

Oh that looks not amazing

Especially when keychron exists

And rgb on keyboards looks terrible anyways IMO

[daring zenith]

:(

Keychron rgb neat

[dull owl]

Don’t know where to post so I’ll just do it here

So I got this wifi card installed but it’s not showing up in device manager

[steep pelican]

Download drivers

[neon quartz]

Preston#7132 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull owl]

Forgot, thanks

They gave me a disk of drivers but I trashed it bc I have nothing to read it

[steep pelican]

Just search up the drivers on manufacturer website

[gleaming matrix]

Does a good desk count as a peripheral?

[gloomy berry]

Sure

[tight pulsar]

duck rgb good https://i.redd.it/s81tvzphm4yy.jpg

[thick tartan]

@lapis sparrow

[gleaming matrix]

What would be a good desk to get if I wanted to get a new one? currently mine is 45 in.

[thick tartan]

get a standing desk

easy

but before i say tht

wats ur price range

[gleaming matrix]

Not more than maybe 120$ cause their is the furmax 55in. on sale for around that rn

[thick tartan]

ahh im not too familliar with desk around tht price range

if you go on amazon and look up desk in ur price range there is some good ones

just look at reviews before ur final decision

[gleaming matrix]

okay

[glass bear]

ikea

is good for desks

[timber ridge]

mid profile and hot garbage pcb kinda not epic

glorious banned a dude who kept on complaining bout qmk support and the pcb

then he went on to fix the issue himself

[thick tartan]

basically what i said

i think if u mod the heck out of it its good

[timber ridge]

something glorious thrall couldnt even do

[thick tartan]

not enough for me to give it good reviews tho

[timber ridge]

the pro is also on the more expensive side of the budget end

spend a few more bucks and you can actually get a good baord

[glass bear]

lol

tkl is same price as

full size

but almost half the price of

tkl

[timber ridge]

scarlet was like 50 bucks more

[desert trout]

Fifine K669B overall thoughts?

It’s €20 in my country lol

[timber ridge]

good for the price

theres an updated version with a dedicated mute switch tho

comes in handy

[desert trout]

True but i have a streamdeck so i am not in need for a mic mute button

But should i cop? Because i’m scared that my keyboard will be so loud

[timber ridge]

do you have a rtx/gtx card?

could jus use rtx voice

[sharp kindle]

wtf is that typing angle

[tight pulsar]

duck boards are usually 11-13 degrees

[timber ridge]

duck boards are what got me into customs

i think it was the unicorn or orion that i first found

[tight pulsar]

probably orion since singa makes the unikorn lol

[timber ridge]

prob lol

[tight pulsar]

i'd like to own one of their 60's or orion but i'm not the biggest fan of their designs

[timber ridge]

yea same tbh

[steep pelican]

mmm gateron yellows do have mega thocc

[glass bear]

Krisp noise cancellation is good too

[steep pelican]

Keeb completed (until I have time to lube)

[daring zenith]

neat

[steep pelican]

Space bar has mega thocc

[daring zenith]

thocc is great

[tight pulsar]

no

[daring zenith]

Nachos why must you reject thocc

[timber ridge]

epic creamy thocky keyboard

[rare raft]

anyone wana help me put together a list of stuff to build a keyboard

[sly warren]

Just buy a KBD67 Lite kit and whatever switches you want

GG

Or I should say, get on the waiting list for the KBD67 Lite

[tight pulsar]

it’s stupid

[daring zenith]

:(

I sad

[timber ridge]

"thock" got runied

[odd sable]

is the nk65 good

[timber ridge]

get a 67 lite instead

[odd sable]

what reasons

[timber ridge]

its p much better in every aspect

you get stock screw in stabs and gasket mount for not much more

[odd sable]

what are some good keycaps?

[timber ridge]

crp

[steep pelican]

R1 not instock on mechanical keyboards.com anymore?

[steep pelican]

Some nice ones I just got were these BoW keycaps on Amazon made by gliging

They have a couple other ones too and they seem pretty quality for 30-35 bucks

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep pelican]

I just bought kbd67 lite on Friday

Built it today

Via is such a useful tool

I used the 1u shift for my layer shift key

[odd sable]

Cool

[thick tartan]

stupid question for my sound geeks

is there an adapter to improve apple earbuds just out of curiosity

cause although im not looking to improve the sound quality i am looking to buy an adapter so i can actually use my earbuds at a less restricted length rn i have to squeeze in to use my earbuds wihtout them popping out of my ears lol

[odd sable]

best 60% keyboard for gaming?

[tight pulsar]

uh might wanna put a budget down

[odd sable]

$120 usd

[wanton burrow]

leopold fc660m

[odd sable]

reasons?

[wanton burrow]

high quality parts

not that much moddability but hey it still didn't disappoint its users

and oh

no best keyboard

neither keyboard for gmaing

[odd sable]

true ig

where should i get it from

ive been typing on a chromebook membrane keyboard for the past 3 years

also is it hotswappable

[wanton burrow]

no

[odd sable]

[wanton burrow]

welp u can also go for womier k61/k66/k87 hotswaps

then replace the stabs and switches and keycaps

[odd sable]

I dont really know much about keyboards yet

[wanton burrow]

or build with CK's bakeneko or smthn

[odd sable]

What are stabs?

[wanton burrow]

stabilizers

[odd sable]

tbh i should know more about keyboards

[wanton burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NpNygIrnaQ

[odd sable]

chromebook keyboards suck

chromebooks in general suck

[wanton burrow]

kek i'm fine with my craptop's keyboard

sucks more than a chromebook

[odd sable]

lol

even with chromebook keyboard i can type 110+ wpm

[wanton burrow]

don't feel the membrane's tactility anymore

i jsut smash the keys cz i got faster kek

[odd sable]

i can tell

[wanton burrow]

well, easier, unescapable bottomout

[odd sable]

yeah

[heady pilot]

A question, I have a evga rtx 2060ko.

Should I run 3x monitors with same Hz to ensure I get the smoothness on any applications I use on secondary and third monitors while I game on middle monitor?
Or would I be good with 144hz main monitor and 2 monitors of 60hz?

[odd sable]

main problem with it is that my chromebook is so slow it doesnt register my typing very well

[steep pelican]

@odd sable I’d just grab a keychron c1/c2 since they look slick and then just put in lubed gat yellows

[odd sable]

what are you gonna be doing with the other 2 monitors?

[sharp kindle]

looks great!

[odd sable]

if its just discord and stuff like that then 60hz is fine

[steep pelican]

Thanks!

[heady pilot]

Mostly Discord/Netflix/other non gaming apps and some Zoom

[odd sable]

Yeah 60hz should be fine but im not an expert

[sharp kindle]

nah 60hz for the others will be fine

[steep pelican]

Totally fine

[odd sable]

144hz for main monitor and 60hz for that is fine imo

really no need

for above that

[sharp kindle]

if youre getting 144hz for your side monitors u kinda dum

[steep pelican]

I can barely tell difference between my two monitors if not gaming

170hz and 60hz

[odd sable]

Lol

yeah

[heady pilot]

Been seeing Reddit that people ran into stuttering issues with secondary and other monitors

[sharp kindle]

144hz oc'd to 170 hz?

[steep pelican]

Nope native 170hz, M27q

[sharp kindle]

oooh nice

[steep pelican]

Maybe 165hz oc to 170 but I thought it’s 170

Rip I need more keebs to have excuse to buy more switches

I just want to buy switches tbh

[odd sable]

i have a 120hz monitor but my computer is a dumpster fire currently

technically not even my pc, its my dads

he doesnt use it though

currently looking for a gpu so i can start building a pc

[steep pelican]

Time to buy keychron and then put gat yellows in them and then buy some u4t and box jades

and lavenders

All the switches

[odd sable]

i want banana splits

they sound so creamy

[steep pelican]

Banana splits over rated

[odd sable]

still good tho

from what ive heard

[steep pelican]

Look cool but are mediocre I’ve heard

[odd sable]

literally

i like the sounds of them

[steep pelican]

Not super smooth

[odd sable]

i might get silent reds

[steep pelican]

I want lavenders for that ultra deep sound and maybe tangerines or alpaca v2 for smoothness

[odd sable]

if im on my pc late at night

[steep pelican]

My non silent gateron yellows are super thoccy and aren’t that loud

They just sound good

Way quieter than my cherry reds

[odd sable]

thocc but quiet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mGVzdMLSk&list=PLpngPEipUUv_UKJX1DxGJSxvmkjGaBkDy

playlist

thocc playlist eargasm

[tight pulsar]

can i ban certain words from this channel

[odd sable]

Lol

[wanton burrow]

144hz discord monitor

[odd sable]

nah 240hz minimum for discord

[wanton burrow]

tkc not pog

[odd sable]

u have to experience discord to the max

[wanton burrow]

weird ass qc

if u want pure, clean clack just get sp star meteor white or some pricey ass jwk switch

[tight pulsar]

hey no don't say the c word

[odd sable]

my current keyboard at my dads house is a logitech g213 membrane keyboard that i bought like 8 months with no knowledge of keyboards

probably more than 8 months ago tbh

looks like i got it early september

so about 8 months ago

lucky guess

[thick tartan]

i have a side monitor thts running on 144

[calm cobalt]

I need a mouse claw palm and hand size is 19.85x10.8

Also i wanna be able to use palm too

[timber ridge]

try checking what vaxee has to offer

[shut cobalt]

what is better g935 or nari ultimate?

[sly warren]

Both are trash headsets.

[west hornet]

https://youtu.be/NHkqWZ9jzA0

[sly warren]

Yeah, I'm happy this guy is calling them to the carpet.

MQA is a dumb standard that never should have been made. Just use FLAC or MP3.

[gleaming matrix]

Is the razer cynosa a good keyboard?

I have just a basic keyboard rn and thinking of upgrading

[daring zenith]

@gleaming matrix what's the budget

[west hornet]

Its very expensive for a membrane

[daring zenith]

Mmm, would rather get good mech keeb

Keychron time maybe

Depending on budget

[gleaming matrix]

My budget is probably 100$ or less

[daring zenith]

Keychron C2 with let's say Gateron browns

Hotswap version

[gleaming matrix]

Ur saying the cynosa v2 isn't gud for 60$ though?

Jus wondering

[west hornet]

Could pay near same price for a keychron that is a real mechanical keeb

[thick tartan]

ye^

[gleaming matrix]

Okie was asking bc they have only razer or Corsair stuff at my local best buy

[daring zenith]

Keychron from Amazon.

[thick tartan]

yup

[daring zenith]

C2 hotswap with browns was either 55 or 65 on amazon

[thick tartan]

amazon better

[gleaming matrix]

What's the difference between mechanical and membrane?

Nvm I googled it lol

[daring zenith]

Completely different in how it's constructed, how it feels, how it sounds, upgradability, and pricing :p

[thick tartan]

keychron will last u longer in the long run than a pos razer keeb

[gleaming matrix]

Would a razer black widow would be better? Or still keychron

[thick tartan]

still keychron.

[daring zenith]

Keychron

Razer keebs are all kinda bad

[thick tartan]

yep

if its cause u want rgb

keychron has rgb

[daring zenith]

Corsair keebs are basically either bad or expensive

Oh yea there's versions of keychron boards with rgb

[west hornet]

Razer keebs bad, i have one

[daring zenith]

And you can switch keycaps if you want

[gleaming matrix]

HyperX alloy origins any good?

Sorry I'm jus trying to see if I can avoid having something shipped

[daring zenith]

Very mediocre, better than Razer, but worse than keychron still

I mean, amazon shipping doesn't take too long

[gleaming matrix]

Keychron doesn't have rgb does it?

Logitech G910 orion any good? Last one I promise lol

[west hornet]

Some keychrons have rgb

[gleaming matrix]

Is the Logitech g910 orion any gud?

[daring zenith]

iirc g910 has the reallly weird logitech switch

But this is rgb, hotswap, c2, on amazon for 75$ @gleaming matrix
https://www.amazon.com/Swappable-RGB-Backlight-Blue-Switch/dp/B08CNB11ZL/

[sly warren]

Anything more than 20 dollars for a Membrane board is too high a price.

Oh also I ordered a Schiit Stack finally

So, now I'm basically at peak Amp and DAC for anything I want to buy.

[daring zenith]

ooo

@sly warren what cans are you going to test the magni modi stack with?

[sly warren]

HE-X4

The Meizu Dongle isn't quite enough power.

They don't feel as impactful as I think they should.

[daring zenith]

hm

planar

interesting

[sly warren]

Yeah, it's HiFiMan's cheapest Planar

It's very good thougb

*thougb

Dammit

*Though

[daring zenith]

yea, I want a schiit stack w that now

but another 300$ into audio is going to be very hard to justify

:(

[sly warren]

If you want a slight upgrade, the HE400SE is "better"

The major difference is the Headband.

The sound is basically identical.

[daring zenith]

I now have an urge to scalp to get money for audio now

this is bad

[sly warren]

Lol

What would you scalp?

[daring zenith]

dunno, got a 3060 earlier, was going to probably mess around on it, check out resizable bar and do some OC

[sly warren]

Also, just invest like, 90 bucks into Safemoon and wait for it to hit 1 cent

[daring zenith]

lol

[sly warren]

I put 50 bucks into Safemoon, but it's gone down in value.

I'm sitting at like, 34 bucks

[daring zenith]

rip

[sly warren]

Eh, I'm playing Diamond Hands with this one and waiting for it to explode and hit 1 cent. Though if it goes up to 1 cent, it might hit more than that.

[daring zenith]

who knows

I'm prob going to be a bad person

will be sad

[sly warren]

Do you have a GPU of a higher power than a 3060?

[daring zenith]

No, but I have a 2070, basically equal.

[sly warren]

Keep the 3060, sell the 2070

[daring zenith]

meh, don't have org box for 2070, so I'd sell 3060 if possible at all

[sly warren]

Nobody cares about a MF'ing box

They just want a GPU

[daring zenith]

(very annoying to package and such without the original box)

[tight pulsar]

@daring zenith hi yes sell me the 3060 or ban

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar hi yes ready 500,000$

[tight pulsar]

okay ban

[daring zenith]

ok but i do sell for 500,000$

[coral void]

Anyone got any keyboard and mouse recommendations?

[jolly stratus]

Anyone wanna help me pick out some peripherals? I've always used crappy stuff so kinda want some advice

[coral void]

Also no logitech, I'm currently coming off that road of pain and suffering lol.

[jolly stratus]

@coral void same boat, looking for mouse and keyboard and a monitor lol

Using a m510 which aint a gaming mouse:3

[coral void]

Yeah my g502 se hero just died for no reason, was working fine but when I woke up it wasn't working at all. Maybe its time, been dealing with a broken right click (which apparently is common on the g502) for about 8 months.

[daring zenith]

@coral void @jolly stratus what budget

[coral void]

$200 for both, but if I can get anything reasonable for less that would be great.

[daring zenith]

For mice, try this rq
https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search

200$ each or 200$ total?

[coral void]

Total

[steep pelican]

Keychron c1 hotswap keyboard, for mouse its really dependent on hand size and grip, monitor probably M27q

[daring zenith]

Depends on budget and what they need smh

Monitor wise depends heavily on GPU

[steep pelican]

Yeah true

[daring zenith]

Would not want to suggest a M27q to someone with say a rx570

[steep pelican]

g242 is the good 1080p monitor right

[daring zenith]

Ye

[daring zenith]

Do you know what switches you like?

[steep pelican]

Blizzard storm guy kinda disappeared

[daring zenith]

Ye

[steep pelican]

@daring zenith debating on whether to buy c1 now for experiment board to try clicky and tactile and stuff and maybe put gat yellows in once I get lavenders, or whether to save up and wait for keychron q1

[daring zenith]

Didn't you get a kbd67 lite?

[steep pelican]

Yeah

[daring zenith]

You could test switches in that

[steep pelican]

True

Keychron q1 mmmmm

[coral void]

I don't know much about switches, currently using the logitech g512.

[steep pelican]

I want a lot

[steep pelican]

Keyboard switches

Wait is 512 a keeb

[daring zenith]

I want to spend 300$ on audio things so yea

[steep pelican]

My goal is to not become audiophile

Cause I can’t afford

[daring zenith]

Temped to copy what skiptrace is doing atm

Schiit stack plus the cheap-ish planar from drop

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren why?

[daring zenith]

@coral void do you care about sound, and do you want tactile feedback?

[steep pelican]

Did you just ping with literally no context

What message are you replying to lol

[coral void]

Anyone heard of Venatos? Been seeing their stuff all over YouTube shorts.

[daring zenith]

The who

[shut cobalt]

@steep pelican i answer why he probably knows

[daring zenith]

Both are trash

[shut cobalt]

@steep pelican lol if you look up you see what i answer to

[daring zenith]

Just audiophile things

Both of those headsets are trash compared to good audio offerings tho

@west hornet btw, what's the cheapest retailer for q2u?

70$ still seems wrong to me

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith like who and they have some features some headsets dont have

[daring zenith]

Features

We care about sound quality

Not gimmicks :p

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith so tell me what do you think is better in this price range

[coral void]

I like my clicky sound

[sly warren]

I don't think it is.

[daring zenith]

Does it have to be wireless?

If not, k371+Zen dac

Hm, clickies eh

[daring zenith]

Thought it was supposed to be like 40$ :(

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith yes it as to be i have really bad gaming headset and i hate the cable

[daring zenith]

Ick wireless

@sly warren remember any good wireless headphones?

[coral void]

https://venatos.com/products/bundle-venatos-northern-glow-venatos-swapper-pro This is what I was looking at.

[daring zenith]

The heck

200$ for that

[coral void]

Yeah for the bundle

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith what is lck??

[daring zenith]

Why is it called swapper when it doesn't even seem to be hot swap switches :p

[daring zenith]

Wireless makes it annoying

Most good headphones are wired

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith oh now i understand

[coral void]

$170 if I use their current discount code

[daring zenith]

@coral void I'd just get like a Keychron C2 or C1 with a mice that fits your hand

Keychron C1/C2 hotswap

Hotswap lets you change switches for nicer switches

[steep pelican]

Then get box whites

Or box jades

For a clicky switch

[daring zenith]

Droq was pretty happy with outemu phoenix so

Dunno about clickies tho

[steep pelican]

How much are outemu Phoenix per switch

[daring zenith]

I think .6

[steep pelican]

Box switch are 34 cents I think

[daring zenith]

Huh

[steep pelican]

Infinity recommended box jades/whites.

I know there is also box pinks too

But idk much about them

[shut cobalt]

@daring zenith i hate the cable i have wired one for gaming and its really bad and i also have wireless one witch not intended for gaming it as Bluetooth and its really annoying to wait until it connected and also the the auto play and pause just not good i just want something decent for all Platforms because i have computer and xbox one s and i planning to buy ps5 when it have stock

[daring zenith]

The one place I found box white is .75 a switch lel

Eh, if you really need wireless, I can't think of anything other than cloud ii wireless

[sly warren]

Good lord that's a meme and a half.

[daring zenith]

Lol

[tight pulsar]

yes that's the point

[sly warren]

Mr1111, did you ghost ping me?

[daring zenith]

Not ghost ping

[daring zenith]

Was asking question

[sly warren]

I can't find the message about wireless gear

Weird

[daring zenith]

Didn't show you my message?

[sly warren]

If you need pure sound quality for the cheapest price, QCY T5's are great.

But they won't do for PC stuff

[daring zenith]

~200$ budget afaik

[sly warren]

Because Bluetooth

Oh Jesus, just buy BT K361

Or does this need to be for a Gaming PC?

[daring zenith]

Hm? Thought that was the bad version

[sly warren]

It's worse than the K361 Wired Only

[daring zenith]

Thought porta pro wireless and k361 wireless were bad relative to og

[sly warren]

But it's far from the worst you could buy for BT audio

[shut cobalt]

i say i dont want Bluetooth i want wireless with dougle

[sly warren]

Eww

Just buy Wired at that point

All the dongle headsets suck

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren all of them suck really?

[daring zenith]

@coral void anyways, point is, grab a Keychron hotswap board with Gateron blues to start, and whatever good clicky switch you want to try down the line

[sly warren]

Your choices for good audio are Bluetooth or Wired. 99.99% of the Wireless Dongle headsets just get murdered by either BT gear on the Wireless side, or Wired gear on the Audio Quality side.

[shut cobalt]

Bluetooth isnt good for gaming

[sly warren]

Not on PC no, but on Console it's typically good enough.

AptX Low Latency has caught up recently

But, for PC, you are way better off just buying Wired gear

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren but in consoles i need to connect them wired so whats the point the consoles dont support Bluetooth audio

[sly warren]

Uhhh, I thought consoles supported BT.

How weird.

Just buy Wired

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren no way i hate wired you really think all of them arent good enough?

[sly warren]

For 200 bucks you can get K361 Wired, Samson Go Mic, and an Apple USB-C to 3.5mm dongle to fix bad motherboard audio.

Why do you hate wired?

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren i hate the cable just hate it

[sly warren]

Like, I enjoy me some Wireless Mice and Keyboards, but Wireless Audio on PC just takes the piss

Why? Audio is super sensitive to latency, and even Dongles still are worse than Wired

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren how is Bluetooth have better latency then doungle i dont understand

[sly warren]

Wireless Audio will never be that good.

I never said it was better.

I said BT has caught u0

*up

You will never find a Wireless Headset with a Dongle that will sound as good as a Wired pair of Headphones.

Because all of the headsets have crappy "gamer" tuning that bloats Bass and Treble.

And they have NO sense of Stereo Imaging.

And the 7.1 mode they add in-post absolutely slaughters audio quality.

I highly implore you to get away from Wireless Audio

Unless it's for your mobile phone

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren but 7.1 not help in games?

[sly warren]

No

It hinders

[coral void]

seems to be unavailable

[daring zenith]

Hm?

[coral void]

its out of stock

[shut cobalt]

@sly warren i want gaming not wired wireless you also gave me a wired that also not for gaming

[sly warren]

Gaming headphones suck

You just want a good pair of stereo headphones

K361 fit the bill excellently

[shut cobalt]

i just check them i didnt know they exist until now

[daring zenith]

Right here for example
https://www.amazon.com/Swappable-RGB-Backlight-Brown-Switch/dp/B08CNCXSP8/

@coral void