#peripherals-and-displays
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or make long pole ks3 black
then matcha greens
it's either dogwater or black matcha
but i won't buy soon so that actually is just a fun idea
coz name could be made funny
think ima get ktt peaches but i have to get heavier springs on top of it
so its like another 10 bucks
expensive
yea but he has both
so he did it
"at least i can make the useless switches have some worth"
coz they say aqua king is bad
so as nk creams
bad + bad = ?

lowkey might jus get the matchas bc prime shipping
does anyone here know what ocean blue feels like
and how do they compare to mx brown in terms of tactility
no tactiles should be compared to mx browns
it's like the lightest linear i know
but the only things hes experienced
it's comparable to T1
next person to use the word thocc is getting slapped
should i get T1 then
to be similar to mx brown
like, a less aggressive t1
imagine amrite
hes looking for a more rounded bump
no i mean ocean blue is comparable to t1
ok
okay now you just sound like leyo
t1 has sharp bump iirc
ok
if i was leo, i would of added an emote to the msg
ocena blues is less aggressive then t1
kekw
mx brown
it'd be prob nice since it's also 22 cents per switch
also comes in a box
p sure ocean blues is medium-strong tactile
same
me want sp stars
but sp star kon momo is 90cents per piece
also luminous cyber
Should I start my collection with the Akko CS line
The problem is that
My parents will bully me for being “financially unwise”
how much would this channel bully me for building a full-size keeb with a different switch in each key
its gonna be very unpleasant to type on
Yes I know
out of curiosity how do the ducky keyboards compare to others in the wild?
theyre overpriced
u could do but it's not a good one to do
u could buy a broken board then use it as switch tester 
Yeah
whats wrong with them?
overpiced
whats a good price for a good board
Good products but with an unnecessary premium
Prebuilt?
I’d say around 150 USD is where most boards sit
Ophi probably has a smarter answer though
$70-100 for prebuilt
is it cheaper to build or is it enthusiast
leopold for quality, keychron for price-to-features
Building is way more expensive
but u could start with modding a prebuilt
like womier k66
nice pcb but the rainbows is ugh
i would gladly desolder it out from pcb
how much just to get me in the hobbie and have a good board
So yeah I have a nice HyperX keeb
Was just gonna mod it with some lube and stabs
Then move on with a build
you can get a keychron prebuilt then mod it in the future whenever youre ready
keychrons range from 50-110usd
id rather not mod id want to build
$70-100 for prebuilt, $200-500 for starter custom
Builds will start at like 200
not too bad
Yeah
you'll still mod (like improve its stock perf such as lubing) customs
modding a keychron and a ducky are very differnt, you can swap switches etc
its not limited to jus switching keycaps
i have a ducky is it moddable
if it's hotswappable
Yeah buying a soldered board was my first mistake as someone who wasn’t into keebs
its not its osldered to the pcb
Oh
Hmmm all you can really do then is mod with lube and stabs etc
Caps
welp it's just a good one to have hotswap when starting
but soldered isn't bad too
Yeah I was gonna buy a hot swap and give the soldered to my cousin who isn’t into keebs
yea ive already done lube and oring and some keycaps
u could prob resell it for better board 
im pretty decent at soldering it really doset scare me
bakeneko60, kbd67 lite r2 extras, gmmk pro, frog tkl tho not rly budget
soldeing is ez
desoldering might not be
u need a desoldering gun
i have a solder sucker that works goood and some mesh stuff
frog tkl is p budget imo
yea id need some heat
i just want something that is a little softer really i feel like i slam these keys
it still was tho yea the price isn't that osmething you would always slap on as 'budget' to ppl
but still budget for a tkl
its supposedly 250
Budget to me is around 100usd
Which in the keeb world is basically scrub money
how much is it now?
ebay a good place to go or buy new?
if you want a softer feel, go with gasket mounted keyboards
Would it be scrubby to buy puddings for my keeb (it’s a gamer keeb btw) and then resell for like +40
i think we should have mechmap here
gmmk pro is gasket mount, but its implemented poorly so its p stiff
Who/what’s mechmap
or gummyworm oring mount
^
map of where to buy
Ok
this would help a lot https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
I thought nacho had a pin of that
doesnt' way all but p much usable
we need a mod to pin it
gummyworm what?
@tight pulsar u there my guy
So I’m seriously considering this
HyperX puddings on Amazon are $25
So I’d make some money
u put large oring band in between pcb and plate. sits around bottom housing of switches
Not a lot
no screws
it just fit on the case but it's not like it'll be made to be loos
ez to take apart but not so loose
if you dunno where to buy keyboard stuff, this is a good map to find reliable regional stores.
https://www.mechmap.tech/
o thats a lot better
It’s just too convenient that the most expensive part of a keeb build, the kit
Isn’t on Amazon usually
that's where regional vendors come in
frog is supposed to be 320usd without pcb, he said it’s budget compared to his other boards but not budget overall
rip
dang what a rabbit hole
@wanton burrow half my build is akko lmao
p sure the switch is jus a ktt rose recolor with dif springs
maybe dif material too idk
Second spacebar because the first one is warped.
Specs:
Kbd67 lite no plate screws
Cherry screw-in stabs lubed with 205g0
Feker pandas spring swapped with 63.5g durock springs, lubed with 205g0+GPL105, and filmed with durock films
XDA Shiba inu PBT keycaps
Random OEM PBT spacebar
osu mania hands
i type bad
@swift lantern oh10s are 150 on drop
nah
ggs
the m1070 is fun btw
leyo I'm disappointed
im looking for a racing wheel for my racing sim. I play forza motorsport mainly and forza horizon on xbox
and i have 200 usd budget before tax
i feel like racing wheels is the one thing we know least of
If you are playing Forza just stick with a controller. The game isn't designed for wheels.
true, but if he wants a wheel, who are we to stop him from getting one
I play it with a wheel, hella fun
I'd go ask on a racing sim discord TBH
Already helped them in another channel
why is this a combo lmao
lol
I mean, it's a 3060 and a 1080p monitor.
The more asinine thing is that the 3060 has TWELVE GIGABYTES OF RAM
Why TF does the 3060 have half the VRAM of a 3090?
At this point, a card's a card. Even one with slight weird specs.
Is the gamakay tk68 good?
What is different about red switch and brown switch
idk
Browns are tactile, meaning they have a little tactile bump. Reds are linear, they have no "feel" when the switch actuates. Actuation is different than bottoming out.
What is the best 80 percent keyboard
Yes gskill keyboard
Which coiled cables should i get? Looking for something under 30$
tbh i dont think youre gonna find anything good in that price point unless you get a diy kit
oh i guess i will wait with that then
like 40$
yes
bruh my order is legit all a gamble
taking risk with the keycaps, switches, lube and mouse
Anyone have linear switch recommendations? I have cherry reds currently and I like them but want something heavier
Gat yellows I believe are nice
Gat Blacks are also heavier Reds.
I had Gat Blacks on my GMMK, I didn't ever lube them or anything, but I enjoyed them. Until I accidentally spilled hot chocolate all over my GMMK...
Gat Yellow or Akko CS Matcha Green
if you're strapped for cash get some Gat Yellow KS-3
cheap as hell
but good
glarses gave them middle-of-the-road smoothness rating
but if you can get the milky top that's better for sound
the sound will be deeper
Can’t you lube that out tho
full nylon ks3s are probably the smoothest
Ok
ye
pog
i got matcha greens bc i jus wanted everything to come the same day
and the switches i want been out of stock
havent gotten them yet
Hi, I'm looking for a corsair mouse, one preferably compatible with iCUE. Budget around 60 usd
uh no
corsair doesnt make good mice
corsair mice are all p bad
and mouse shape and size should be more important than rgb
Corsair mice ew
I don't know. I just bought the Dark Core mouse and I'm loving it so far. Why do you say Corsair mice are bad or they just straight up don't make a good mouse?
they oftentimes seem to have quality problems
connection and tracking etc
also a lot of corsair products in general are hella overpriced
and this sadly extends to their mice
also dont use good shapes and are heavy
I would almost argue that for the same quality of mouse that you get for the Dark Core, Logitech and Steel Series equivalents are usually about 50 dollars more.
they recently started making normal shaped mice but their old stuff followed the "gamer" aesthetic
ehhhh
I actually like the heaviness of the Dark Core personally. Had a logitech mouse and it was way too light for me.
G502 Hero is $20 cheaper on Amazon and the quality is similar if not better
...logitech sells weights you know
Depends depends depends
Regardless, I like my mouse
p r e f e r e n c e
I thought I liked heavy mouse and then I went light mice lel
as long as you like the item you bought, thats all that matters
I was just generally curious why they get so much hate all the time.
Quality and software mainly, and just shape
well cases*
400d airflow or wathever is really nice
4000d airflow and 5000d airflow nice, except that's like 1/20th their case lineup
yea
Except price
thats the only case that comes to mind when i think of corsair cases
besides the 220t
true, but i feel like the 4000d is what everyone wanted the h510 to be
The more I've looked into Corsair, the worse it gets tbh
and coolers are overpriced
Vegeance rgb blocks radiator
but id still take ballistix or gskill over it
But I've seen 2 or 3 times where people bought Corsair vegeance rgb ram and their AIOs wouldn't fit
Because who makes their ram wide
Ballistix is guaranteed better die, g.skill depends on the kit, but I trust g.skill a bit better for not stuffing random dies in ram :p
im trying to think of wht corsair makes thats good besides the 2 cases you mention
this is tragic lmao
I mean, some good PSUs
But only expensive ones, and overpriced when you look deeper into it xD
SSDs are wack, mp600 is basically kinda useless, mp510 has a weird write problem
No it isn't
It's general 2
all the cool kids sit in #peripherals-and-displays
And it doesn't matter what you talk about in what channel
mmm it's my days from buildapc
Man,
rmx series is nice, but you can save like 40 bucks and go with phanteks
I mean
a dac/amp will make any headphones better
@timber ridge you can literally tell how they're overpriced, RMx is built off CWT GPU, which Revolution D.F. is also built off of, except revo d.f. is nice and multi-rail, and generally like 30$ cheaper
@rigid valve depends on the headphones, but it definitely can
ok
corsair logo tax op
the logo isnt even that good either
Be careful, this will get you banned from crinacle

Well, Unless you have expensive headphones already, a 150 dollar DAC isn't going to improve most middling headphones enough to make them worthwhile.
ok
Ofc
But who's going to buy a 150$ amp/dac for some 5$ dollar general headphone
:p
If you want to get started in the Headphone world, I recommend getting the Meizu USB-C to 3.5mm DAC, and either a pair of Koss UR40s, or a few other cheap suggestions.
(if you are, please get some help)
The Meizu Dongle is a great device for the relatively cheap asking price, and scales ok.
Nah
Yes.
Go cheaper
No.
Yes
No.
Yes
Lol

It's 20 ish bucks, and the next lowest device sounds identical, and can't drive more powerful headphones.
Like, you could comfortably drive HD560S's with a Meizu dongle.
You couldn't drive them with an Apple Dongle.
I can comfortably drive m1070 with them
Though those are low impedance
If it's for desktop Meizu is fine but if it's for mobile go with ddhifi or something else
what about a 3.5 to 3.5
Indica
Those don't do anything.
And it's not good for mobile
im looking for desktop only
If it jiggles at all it will cut you off
Meizu decent overall
Then just buy a Meizu Dongle and go.
Meizu and usb adapter
But nothing.
ook
they released a lineup of peripherals a while back
didn't realize they made a hotswap keeb
they kinda all scream gamer
(thought it was the usual non-hotswap offerings you'd see)
4k hz polling rate lmaooo
Ok, that's just dumb.
1000hz is already pushing it.
If it was 4000hz Mouse, that's got legit use.
ok evga
Though games are having issues with higher rate mice.
wuh
not just games
@sly warren hardware were having issues with higher polling rate mice xD
is this some gamer marketing stuff im too enthusiast to understnad
I think its misleading marketing.
I remember seeing something about the razer 8k hz mouse taking like 20% CPU usage in some cases
wow
well, it's about the same for icue so it's what gamers want >:P
Yay
this is peripheral chat
sorry
that would be terrible
I really want to build with id80
But the moneys
Hmmmm what if
I GOT A JOB
Does Newegg stock keeb stuff
Ok
or maybe just mod a womier k66 for the meantime
Or a C1
I’ll think abt it
But honestly my keeb is nice
Just needs stabs and lube
But idk if i can lube soldered switch
Can I?
(Without desoldering that stuff scares me)
Like what if I brushed the stem with lube and then pushed them down without a cap
So it got into the housing
i can but u shouldnt
Ok
u aim on the contact points of switch where friction happens
doing that won't reach it
Mmmm so I’m stuck with scratchy scratchy then
Until I can find someone to gib this keeb to
And have an excuse to buy one
keychron c1 might be neat
and also, spray lubing bad afaik (only way I believe you can easily lube soldered switches)
Yeah spray lube bad
Hipyo has a couple vids on it
And yea C1 is perfect
But my parents won’t let me buy stuff since I already have keeb
And breaking it on purpose seems mean
But it’s a soldered keeb
Which limits basically everything
if u ever find soldering stuff, it'll save ur life
im scared to solder and desolder stuff
not buy but like, borrow
soldeing isn't scary
soldering is scary
mm but it is
soldering easy
welp i do think desoldering is the hard part
esp when I've accidently slightly burnt myself with a hot glue gun before >:P
desoldering scary
I'll prob try soldering one day though
its really not bad
soldering might seem tough lol but i was always told how easy it is
it just eats time iirc
once i held the iron on a metal stick too long then i touched other end of the stick with my finger, i had a dent in my finger from that for weeks
no 🤡
oh
i take notes from ppl that already did
i think they said to not keep the soldering iron for too long
but the only issues i have are stabs and some scratchy scratchy on the bottom out
but that all needs me to take it apart right
hmmmm
yes but u kinda still need to desolder swwitches before taking out the stab 
wait
i can try some syringe and inject some dielectric grease?
ok no that's wrong perspectives lmao
u
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This video is a guide to lubing stabilizers on a soldered mechanical keyboard without the need to desolder.
Edit: I use the term “soldered stabilizers” to mean that you’ve already soldered the switches onto the pcb and cannot remove the stabilizers without desolde...
people that can't solder are weak and will be forgotten
also that desoldering tool glarses uses i think that's them ost used one in the community
ss02 is good and cheap
but fr tho soldered board as a begginer is gonna be hard
just saw someone have stab problems after desoldering
also cable should be here in a little wew

is this a good buy?
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hey so
what is the best mouse under $50
w h y
what is that stand
@calm cobalt what grip
why would you spend so much for a stand
idk lol, i dont even own a headset
mix of claw and palm
guess I can't use the website atm but use this
https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/
goddamn that embed cancerously shouts 'gaming'
p sure mz1 is like endgame, so can safely ignore that
looks like the MM710
oh hey it's less expensive than I thought, still expensive
uh, you're welcome?
razer is dropping a 305 shape mouse in like a few days
interesting
oooh i actually would love to see that
its gonna be wireless too
theyre gonna call it like
the boa
no
boas are thicc
hmmm
the cobra
since its flat
like a cobra neck wit the frillls
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jeenyis
thumbs up
leyo how's the experience with feker pandas?
i rly wanna put its stem on ocean blues
just for the sake of naming it unholy/bath/dogwater

ophi you hear about akko stems being to big for other switches ?
not yet but that's some good info to take
it's long boi
someone tried using rose red stem on the ks3 yellow housing
i'll ask
i saw a post saying the diameter of the pole is too big
but idk
i wanna try em with cherry housings
im thinking of doing a gateron brown stem housing and spring swap with creams
ah yes, linear to tactile frankenswitch
i wanna swap in nylon housings
to what
oooh
get the mx blacks
great thing i just asked on that post i liked above
DO IT LANCE

I'm too poor to find out myself
this is basically my mousepad budget going to frankenstein switches
was a good post might try it one day
don't try. do it.
u can give it a nice name too
LOL

😏
so....
hyperglide blacks or 3pin blacks?
can't find some other cherry lol i might go to lazada again
cuxiu i htink is a trusted one but they only sell hyperglide blacks
40 cents per piece
5 pin
Notice any hisses on the Sundara?
Perhaps you prefer the rumble of the oh10
I'm beginning to think I should just cave and get teaks..
Nvm, I shall simply jump in a hole
nope
Huh
does anyone know if the mk21 60% is hotswapable?
no
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“it seems that mqa got checks in place to prevent anyone from getting test signals encoded”
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so the truth of mqa is finally all unfolded
do USB hubs cause lag for inputs ?
if i use my keyboard pass through plugged into the usb hub on my monitor will that cause input lag for my mouse
pretty much every extension will add a input lag. it wont be much at all but its there
not much, but many extensions lower the amount of power it can provide. only really a problem if you are trying to charge a phone with a 50ft cable
🐳
my monitor has an extra power thingy in it
like the plug you use for uhhh routers and network switches
if i use that will it benefit the input lag
Your monitor has an Ethernet port on it?
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “the plug you use for routers and network switches”
is that.... the power cord
there's the giant power cord and then there's also this
Okay but what ports are on your monitor?
there's no label for it
Regardless, that will not assist with input lag regardless of what it is
Dell something idk let me look
And it has the regular 3 prong ac power port as well?
what switch
Outemu Phoenix clickys, 62g
They have a double click. Click down and click back up
that's called clickbars ig
TIL
if the clickers is like a rod which the stem flicks, it's clickbar
if the clicker's in the stem it's a clickjacket
lol
retooled
Logitech g703 /g403 good?
yea, g403 has a p stiff wire tho
how much is it?
77
whats ur grip type?
Claw
do you need wireless
No
xm1r is really nice for claw
I want to flip a table right now.
Razer just released the Orochi V2 Wireless, and... It's so good...
What about the g502 hero?
ok
It's a brick. Good luck with hand problems later in life.
I might go with the g403 then
Why a G403?
Idk he said its good
🤦♂️
Do you have any suggestions?
it has no spring
Yes. Go measure your hand and use https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search
👍
Honestly I might buy a Razer Orochi V2... I thought i'd be free from Razer's grasp, but... the Bluetooth and 2.4ghz modes are calling me saying "Use us because we are super versatile!"
I think it's a little smaller than a Model O Wired.
The Ov2 is also quite nice because it's got a swappable battery.
yea, but everyone was asking for a viper mini ultimate
dunno why they didnt drop that
And the battery should last a hella long time also.
Damn you Razer... I think I'm gonna buy it and put it on PayPal Credit...
Yeah, I love my Model O Wired. But... that Wireless is calling my name.
I'm already getting a 2.4ghz/BT Wireless Keyboard, might as well go fully wireless.
Aw
If the Model O Wireless had the functionality for BT and 2.4ghz, I'd have gotten the MOWireless
?
how is ur mow
Eh, I watched :3ildcat's review of the Iqunix A80 and made my decision on that. It's pretty good and fits my needs.
i heard very mixed opinions about its qc/build quality
iirc, iquinx uses those weird stabs
forgo tthe term for it
Pretty sure they are costar stabs
Yeah, they use Costar stabs. Which, I've never had a board with them, so it'll be an interesting experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-FnkTzZ4dY Here's the A80, I personally bought the L80 which is just a different color. I got mine with Cherry Reds.
0:00 Intro
0:16 Unboxing
2:16 Keycaps & switches
2:50 Costar stabilizers
3:26 Feet
3:39 LED indicator
4:14 Fn combos
4:58 N-key rollover
5:07 Non-backlit
5:14 Dolly shots
5:46 Typing sounds
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I mean, it was this, or wait eons for a Keychron.
I didn't want yet another wired board.
whoever invented the "thingy that grips the sides" way of swapping pads needs to be taken out behind the chemical shed

Headfone pads?
Hm
Oh, like the Koss and AT pad method?
Where it has the little lip around the edge?
And you have to feed a tiny sliver of fabric into that lip?
well yeah but that's the "ever headphone other than like 3 companies" method
that sounds nicer
Hmmm
Velcro would come off tho
14 minutes I'm not even kidding and I haven't gotten a pad on
at this point I would rather they literally have to be screwed on to the sides or something
jesus
Dayum
finally got one
Holy cow, the Orochi V2 is shorter than Zy's Rail.
It's 10.8cm long
Grip width should be fine though, the entire thing is 6cm wide.
The Model O grip width is 5.68cm so, it shouldn't be too bad for grip width on the Orochi V2.
It'll just be weird using a mouse that is so short length wise.
same
why did I have to be cursed with such treble-sensitive ears
buy new ears
kuzu buys bad equipment confirmed
listen to rhapsody in the blue by the thirteen right now
if there's no hiss on s's you're either not treble sensitive or the sundara are magic
im using sundaras rn
but it reminds me of music that is played at disneyland lmao
I'mma buy a used HD60 for a capture card
I used to use my phat xbox one
But I have a series s now with no hdmi in
do yall ever start typing and just say "im not really feeling this board today"
and proceed to swap it
if so
you should watch Shoobs vidoes on the keyboard rabbit hole
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lmfao
I am now struggling to find a mid range set of CLOSED BACK cans

accept that you hit midfi peak and need to make the jump to hifi
@rigid valve amazon stepped up their custom kb parts, you can get ks3s on amazon lmao
:DDDDDDD
ye you can get some crazy stuff for keebs on amazon i love it
these pom keycaps are end game changing its lit
where did you get your pom caps from ?
helping someone buy a keyboard, but im not too well versed in this area
budget: around $100
no rgb and quiet
any recommendations? not sure if this kind of stuff exists for mechanical keyboards but i dont want to get a crappy $30 keyboard for them
if you wanna get the best prebuilt in terms of quality, its leopold but its slightly over budget
models range from 100-120 im p sure if you stick to mechanical switches
hm, alright ill check those out
thank you
@timber ridge not sure if you know a ton about mouses, but is the G305 lightspeed wireless good? its pretty cheap and looks decent
G305 is a good mouse for sure
alrighty
depends on your grip type and its heavy for what it is
hm, im not sure about that bc this stuff isnt for me lol
theyre pretty much just going to be using it for office tasks though
whats ur current mouse ?
they use a laptop right now
but theyre getting a monitor/kb/mouse and all the stuff and im helping them pick stuff out
does mechkeyboards have a discord
yeah
I didn't realize people did anything other than palm grip lol
theres actually more but those are the main 3
sorry i made type mistake
its most common not palm
or some variant of claw
fingertip is less common
but still common
Bro I've only tried literally 3 "midfi" cans
lmao somebody is trying to buy 70gal of 205g0 to lube car shocks
Wat
Lube car shocks
So the dust and dirt stick to them
And destroys seals
Fantastic
get teaks
i didnt even see you question until now but i got mine from amazon but if i was gonna buy another set i probably wouldve just waited for POMs website to restock cause these took atleast a month to get here with a few days to spare lol
are they not the same ?
can you link the one u got ?
cause i dont think POM sells the keycaps on amazon if tht makes sense
idk looking at it now i dont think they are after looking at the sellers inventory LOL
oof shipping time looks rough
was too rough
overall tho happy with the purchase cause theyre keycaps i wasnt in a rush
flashquark should be quicker if you wanna get more
what you building in u rnext build ?
The only thing that scares me about teak is the lack of return policy
I mean heck do they even have a warranty of any kind
either think or gamakay with creamerons or akko cs mods idk yet
was also looking at the new glorious keeb looks pretty nice
for the price too
Well obviously someone must not like them since you'll see them on eBay occasionally
But usually for more than brand new price, wack
its p nice for the price but acoustics/typing feel isn the best
i wouldnt waste creamerons on em
Amazon doesn’t have that many kits
True
theres a lotta hotswap kits on there
Wait rlly
yup
Oh
if u want kits u prolly have to visit like monstargear or DRP websites like them i think escape keyoards is also a really good site
shorter shift
Ok thx
ggs
ah sheeesh
where they goin
^
smfh
how many boxes did u order
yea
Can't believe they're making a zen dac 2
$30 viper mini or that which will probably be near $200
$20 when on sale
viper mini is literally a free mouse at this point within the small/lightweight mice lineups
ew finalmouse
isnt finalmouse qc worse than glorious
think theyre quality control is better than glorious but its not great either
theyre good mice; just theyre way overpriced now and not as good in this market that they used to dominate
plus glorious is really only bad on first batch most of the time, something theyre good at is fixing stuff somewhat fairly quick
well again, their mice are good, its just now theres so many mice within the market now its kinda dumb to look towards finalmouse if you want a lightweight mouse
my spelling, dont look at it
fixed
good mouse, bad price
yeah
well, hopefully good
eh im not going for it but it does look cool
wonder how they did the latency stuff but considering its already at 1ms
who cares
theres a bunch of cheaper wireless mice from smaller chinese companies being discovered rn
ill probably save up for a viper ultimate on sale
yeah i was talking about that like two days ago actually
something like
droppin a mouse at like 200usd is not the move
depending on the mouse, imo the only expensive mouse thats somewhat worth is pricepoint is the gpro lightweight
even then its kinda a hard buy
yea
xenic mice are really nice
basically pwnage mice with better sensors
thats like 20 days of work 
lowest viper ultimate has been was $80 but that was during black friday/cyber monday
yeah
ordered a delux m800 and its prob gonna retire my ultimate
imo id just go for a model o wireless or something else
its basically a viper mini ultimate for 45 bucks
i have the ultimate and its really teetering on the fence for me rn
same size?
slightly bigger
i like something similar to a rival 3
razer viper ultimate is a good mouse but at the same time not
in between a reg viper and a mini
i have a ftip grip but also palm sometimes and rival 3 fits me well
thats why i was thinking about the aerox 3
same shape as my rival
but other issues
i use ftip p much all the time unless im using my g502 for productivity
aerox 3 wireless i wouldnt recommend from what i said before in general chat




