peripherals-and-displays

[daring zenith]

Well, Keychron C1/C2 non-hotswap on Amazon should be ~50$, and I believe viper mini goes on sale for ~30$ semi-frequently

[ancient breach]

Whats the difference between hotswappable and not?

[daring zenith]

Hotswap = You can remove switches and place in new switches without having to solder

But hotswap boards are more expensive

[ancient breach]

Hmm

[timber ridge]

the only decent mouse at 30 bucks is the viper mini imo and it doesnt work with everyone

[ancient breach]

Looking at the keychron c2, whats the difference between red/blue/brown switches?

[timber ridge]

reds are linear, so when you press it goes all the way down smoothly til you bottom out

browns are similar, but they have a bump on the way down

blues have a bump and audible click

[daring zenith]

Browns are tactile, so you have a nice bump feeling

They're the 3 main types of switches, linear, tactile, and clicky.

[ancient breach]

Ill most likely use the keyboard between a console for gaming, and a pc for just general stuff/gaming, so more clicky switches would work best, or?

[timber ridge]

its all preference

[ancient breach]

I like something thats smooth but also clicky, idk

[timber ridge]

the pro to choosing the keychron is that its hotswap, so if you do ever decide its not for you, you can jus buy different switches and swap them out

and if you want clicky then blue is the option

[queen sigil]

unless you want a really loud keyboard dont get blues

[daring zenith]

Browns are the best to start off imo

[ancient breach]

Yeah preferably not loud but I mean, if it feels better then idm lol

When it means like "small bump" what does it mean by that?

[daring zenith]

It's not loud, so no complaints, it's not that big a bump if you don't like it, and it's not a heavy spring or anything, with basically the same actuating distance

There's a tactile feedback

[ancient breach]

doesnt know anything abt this

[daring zenith]

Like when you press down, instead of it going straight down, there's a "bump"

[timber ridge]

can you go to a local bestbuy or something and try a kb on display?

[daring zenith]

Might be easier to see if there's a picture of the leaf lol

It's literally a bump

[ancient breach]

hm

I cant to like bestbuy because the closest is an hr n 1/2 away

[daring zenith]

Anyways, browns are my suggestion for anyone uncertain tbh

It's just right in the middle

You get to try tactile, and not as loud as clicky.

[ancient breach]

Alright

[timber ridge]

i started off with reds

but its really preference and what you think will be best for you

[ancient breach]

Also I saw theres like o rings to make the travel shorter ect?

[timber ridge]

id skip out on that

[daring zenith]

O rings are ehm

Sad

Makes the key press feel mushy

Not reccomended

[ancient breach]

Oh hey, switches are like not that expensive

for gateron anyways

[daring zenith]

Hm? The C2 comes with the switches for ~50$

[ancient breach]

Ik, but like, getting different switches

[timber ridge]

if i were you, id go with browns or reds, then get clickies on the side

[daring zenith]

Well, you'll want hotswap version to do that, which is like 10-20$ more, but yea

[ancient breach]

have people like, for gaming used say, red for certain switched only for like wasd but kept the others brown?

so 2 diff switches (or more) for certain keys

[timber ridge]

some ppl have done that

but im not sure with wasd keys, sometimes they do it with space or something

[ancient breach]

Ah

[timber ridge]

it throws off the typing experience

if you have mixed switches on ur alphas

[ancient breach]

Gotcha

Better to have all the same

I saw the diff between c1 and c2 is the c1 has less keys, but which ones does it not have compared to the c2?

[rugged lion]

Mechanicalkeyboards.com has them

Also kbdfans is in China so they definitely ship to more than just America

[ancient breach]

Oh wait I see nvm

I never use the numpad of keys so the c1 would probably work

Hm, c1 hotswappable and with brown switches is only 55$

[timber ridge]

if you wanna get clicky switches on the side, id look into box switches

they make nice clicky switches

[ancient breach]

Also heard cherry mx are good?

Ill look at box switches rq

[timber ridge]

cherry mx is jus mainstream

not really bad or good

[ancient breach]

Alr

Im guessing gateron are the same ish?

[daring zenith]

cherry browns are frowned upon but yea

[timber ridge]

cherry mx browns are known to be the worse tactiles lol

its one thing the kb community can agree on

[daring zenith]

Gateron is like the cheap decent option

It's basically cherry mx switches, if not better, but much cheaper

[ancient breach]

Oki

[daring zenith]

it's what, 20 cents per gat switch, nearly a dollar per cherry switch?

:P

[ancient breach]

Reccomended decent but still inexpensive switches?

gate switches are 10$ for 35 so, abt that yeah

[daring zenith]

Nothing is really worth over gateron browns until you get to ~50$ for 100 switches, or good deal

[timber ridge]

ks3 yellow for a nice buget linear

[ancient breach]

Alright

[timber ridge]

t1s for a budget-ish tactile

[daring zenith]

I like t1 but

yea

[ancient breach]

Ill just stick w the brown gate's for now

[daring zenith]

feker pandas are interesting but I think leyo said needs lubing because scratchy?

[timber ridge]

and if you wanna go clicky, go kailh box clickies

[timber ridge]

fekers need some work to feel p good

/ sound

[daring zenith]

fair

[ancient breach]

so when it means bump, it mean when you feel that bump is when it actually registers the keystroke?

[timber ridge]

yup

a bump at the actuation piont

point *

[daring zenith]

found a nice gif

https://input.club/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BrownSwitch-3D.gif

compared to linear
https://input.club/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cherry-mx-red-500px-15-frames.gif

[ancient breach]

so basically with brown, once you feel that bump you can let off because that bump is the point it senses the keystroke

[timber ridge]

yep, but most ppl bottom out anyway

[ancient breach]

gotcha

[timber ridge]

its kinda hard to let off right when you feel it

[daring zenith]

yea, there's no reason to stop your hand mid press

[lavish cosmos]

ok thanks will check it

[daring zenith]

usually you'd go all the way because momentum

[queen sigil]

@lavish cosmos don't get a kbd67lite if your budget is 100$

[ancient breach]

I mean, what I do is I dont bottom out keys unless im holding them, ive gotten used to just pushing them until they get registered, I have a light touch when using keyboards for some reason

[queen sigil]

for a built out one is like minimum 150$

[ancient breach]

I think Ill get the brown switches for now

[timber ridge]

browns are basically a silent clicky

[ancient breach]

What would you have to do to switch keys if it wasnt hotswappable?

[daring zenith]

desolder each switch

and solder each new switch in

[ancient breach]

Ah gotcha

[daring zenith]

it's just not meant to be in most cases

[queen sigil]

and dissassemble the keyboard

[ancient breach]

Better to get hotswappable in the long run

[daring zenith]

yea

When you're uncertain about switches, hotswap really nice

until you find your perfect endgame switch, hotswap.

imo

[ancient breach]

Alright

Probably wont get another keyboard until I get a good pc so ill stick with the hotswappable and get browns first

Are the logitech mice good? specifically I think it was the 502 I was looking at

nvm its not that one,1 sec

[timber ridge]

do you know your grip type?

[ancient breach]

I dont

[daring zenith]

I just said viper mini because it's the one good cheap mice I remember

[ancient breach]

Yeah

[timber ridge]

if you bump your budget to 50 bucks, you get a whole lot more options for mice

these are the 3 main grip types

depending on that and you hand size

will determine the mice u get

[ancient breach]

Looking at my hand, its kinda between claw and palm

[timber ridge]

and what games are you playing

[ancient breach]

Cod, warframe, more fps games

[timber ridge]

id skip the 502 then bc its heavy

[ancient breach]

Mostly*

Alright

[daring zenith]

I mean, it is a bit thicker

[ancient breach]

Idk much about mice, so anything is helpful

[daring zenith]

for palm

[timber ridge]

if youre a palm user, then go with the model d

if youre using claw then model o

or g305

[ancient breach]

I mean like, its between a palm and claw, I have my palm on the mouse but my fingers kinda claw like

[timber ridge]

oh, thats claw then

claw has palm on it when fingers hunched over kinda

palm means like full on contact

[daring zenith]

Well, do you click with your fingernail or your finger, that's imo the difference between claw and palm

[timber ridge]

another chart

this is more detailed

[ancient breach]

tip of my finger

[daring zenith]

yea

nachos more detailed chart

[timber ridge]

i dont share that one instantly, bc sometimes its a bit overwhelming for some ppl

[daring zenith]

yeye

[ancient breach]

Doesnt look complicated, I just cant read it lol

[daring zenith]

It's a bit easier to read if you open original

[ancient breach]

Yeah I think its more of a claw

[timber ridge]

model o or g305

they should both be under 50usd or right at it

[ancient breach]

Alright

I have about a max of 100$ for both kb and mouse, I wanted to save a bit for a decent mousepad but maybe ill just get a better mouse

[timber ridge]

if youre willing to spend a bit more, xm1/xm1r is lowkey end game for claw users

[ancient breach]

end game?

[timber ridge]

and a nice mousepad option is qck

and by endgame i mean like its one of the best you can get

for claw

[ancient breach]

Ah

[daring zenith]

hm?

[ancient breach]

whats the difference between the model o and o-?

[timber ridge]

size

o- is smaller

[ancient breach]

Ah

[timber ridge]

crazy how much a difference caps makes lol

[ancient breach]

Keychron c1 w/ browns, model o, and a qck medium

[daring zenith]

oh I got so confused for some reason

[ancient breach]

hm?

[daring zenith]

thought you mean xm1 was end game mousepad xD

misread

[ancient breach]

Oh lol

So im assuming best site to buy it all from is the manufacture site

[daring zenith]

eh

For keychron, shipping expensive direct from manufacturer so amazon might be better

glorious also does have shipping fee so amazon may be better

but amazon doesn't have keychron hotswap boards last I saw, only non-hotswap versions

[ancient breach]

Yeah

Also looks like everywhere but pcgamingrace, model o is like 80-90$

I mean, maybe ill get just keyboard and mousepad for now, the mouse I have is decent and its been working for me so far

Okay yeah shipping from keychron for the c1 is 20$ wth

its 65$ on amazon (hotswappable vers)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CNBL4Z4/ref=twister_B08T683S5L?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[timber ridge]

looks good

[daring zenith]

yea

[daring zenith]

It's very fast dhl shipping from China so

[ancient breach]

Says it wont be in stock until may 3rd tho, so may take some time to get here but

but says fastest shipping itll be here may 5th, day after my bday owo

[daring zenith]

The thing is

[ancient breach]

Hmm?

[daring zenith]

Keychron shipping on my keeb got it from China to central US in 2 days

[ancient breach]

Damn

[tight pulsar]

hm might desolder and lube these greetech browns for a future build soon

[queen sigil]

wait u were using stock greetech

how r they

[tight pulsar]

very very scratchy and pingy

well not super scratchy but not smooth

theyre bone dry tho no factory lube

[queen sigil]

then why didnt you lube

[tight pulsar]

cause i was lazy and wanted to break them in

[lavish cosmos]

I can pay 150 but with shipping so im not sure how much will it be will check it later when i get home

[queen sigil]

its like maybe 110 for the board, 30-50$ for keycaps, and then like 10-40$ for switches

then an additional 20+$ for shipping

then u need to wait a couple months for it to arrive

actually no

ur gonna have to order everything serprately from different places

so even more money

but no waiting

[tight pulsar]

i can make one for like $60+ shipping

[lavish cosmos]

Oh

Any other ones then that you suggest? @queen sigil

[queen sigil]

of course you can

[tight pulsar]

heres a sound test of them but it cant pick up the scratch at all

okay that took a solid 10 minutes to send

[queen sigil]

im not a fan of that sound]

what plate

[tight pulsar]

fr4

thats also a flat board until i get the cone feet in and it sounds better not flat

[amber oracle]

For those of you that might want to give your cans a bit of a workout, have a start here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zm5QD7smSw

[sharp kindle]

https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/clearance

great time to cop box switches

[swift lantern]

mfw getting zen can for the second time

[red sail]

Still no gpu to get the pc working tho

[daring zenith]

Interesting keycaps

[queen sigil]

interesting keyboard

mixing backlit keycaps is a big no in my eyes

[wise token]

save my soul

[red sail]

It's a kit from alpherior keycaps

The keyboard is from havit and has red switches

[tribal void]

Any recommendations for headset? I had the logitech g933 but they are starting to give up the ghost. Looked at logitech pro X wireless since I like logitech, but don't know much. Price isn't really a concern if it will last a long time

[rigid valve]

headset meaning built-in mic?

[tribal void]

Yes sorry should of made that more clear

[queen sigil]

budget?

[tribal void]

$300 is max

@queen sigil

[west hornet]

pc38x is pretty nice for gaming and music

[tight pulsar]

8 pairs of porta pros and a modmic

[queen sigil]

ok skiptrace

[rigid valve]

lmao

[daring zenith]

I say grab a PC38x and a Zen dac

it's like 160$ for headset, 120$ for dac

really nice

[tribal void]

Ok I'll look into that ty

[daring zenith]

PC38x : https://drop.com/buy/drop-sennheiser-pc38x-gaming-headset
Zen dac : https://www.amazon.com/iFi-Zen-DAC-Converter-Unbalanced/dp/B07YZK5MDS/

There's also other great options but without built in mic

[tribal void]

Ya that's the hard part is I would jsut go that route and get external mic, but right now I need the portability of both in 1

[daring zenith]

There's modmic options like this
https://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-BoomPro-Microphone-Gaming-Communication/dp/B00BJ17WKK/

[gloomy berry]

Dac pog

[daring zenith]

But your choice in the end, PC38x is very nice for a "buy and be done" option

[tribal void]

ya so many options man! thanks for your opinion

[daring zenith]

:)

actually @gloomy berry does zen dac have mic input?

[gloomy berry]

No

[daring zenith]

hmm

[gloomy berry]

I just use pc for that

Modmic

[daring zenith]

might be a bit weird but

hm

[rigid valve]

wait what if like

do you have to connect dac to pc right

to actually make it work

[daring zenith]

yes

[rigid valve]

would it not work to have a y-split connecting mic in and line out

go into dac

and then oneway from the modmic into dac

PC>----DAC----Headset

like that

[daring zenith]

thing is

headset has 2 3.5mm plugs, one for input and one for output

[gloomy berry]

It works fine tbh

Ahhhh

[rigid valve]

what if my headphones only have one 3.5mm

[daring zenith]

So it has to be like
PC --- DAC --- Headset
\ --- --- --- --- /

we're talking about headsets

[rigid valve]

well yes

but im doing a switch

😄

[wanton burrow]

what is this? a gray-tone, blank, handarbeit?

[daring zenith]

anyways

hmm

@gloomy berry can ya think of any nice dacs for ~100$ with mic input?

[west hornet]

nice mr1

[daring zenith]

hi ghost

can you think of any nice dac for ~100$

[daring zenith]

164,000 :)

[west hornet]

dac or dac amp

[daring zenith]

dac amp

[rigid valve]

what about just dac

[west hornet]

hmm idk

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring zenith]

schiit stack time xD

[west hornet]

atom or schiit dac is nice

lol oops

[daring zenith]

anyways

tryna think

@tribal void I'm going to think about some other dacs, since zen dac is a great dac for headphone, but it doesn't have an input for mic, so it might be annoying.

A very mediocre but still an option is a schiit fulla, this boi here, zen dac should be a bit better for audio quality and such, but fulla is a nice smol boi that has mic and headphone inputs.
https://www.schiit.com/products/fulla-1

[rigid valve]

Wait so zen dac has no mic input meaning like

I’d have to do like

PC—DAC—HEADPHONES
PC——-MIC—/

[wise token]

wonder when the next version of the fulla is going to happen, the hel got a new one recentlyish

[tight pulsar]

also hm should i grab these og dyesubs for 110ish

[paper thunder]

Trying to burn some cd's, can windows media play convert flac to wav before download?

[sharp kindle]

yes

[west hornet]

Idk about media player, i use exact audio copy for rips maybe it burns too

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[paper thunder]

I got it, nvm

It's crazy to me you can literally burn dye in cd/dvd on the power from a 5 watt usb port

[coral temple]

Can somewhen recommend a TKL board with linear switches?

[sharp kindle]

tgr jane with hirose oranges

[queen sigil]

i mean that is a tkl with linears

also are hirose oranges even good or are they just rare

[coral temple]

Thanks

[sharp kindle]

theyre rare

pretty sure its basically an mx black

[timber ridge]

arent they like 5 bucks per switch

[wanton burrow]

Leopold FC750R or Keychron K8/C1 or Womier/Gamakay K87

[sharp kindle]

like 10

[timber ridge]

oof

[wanton burrow]

[wanton burrow]

https://www.amazon.com/HK-Gaming-Mechanical-Switches-Keyboards/dp/B08PDTXGNB/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

yo wth

Horrible Kompany gaming makes switches too?

[lavish cosmos]

Is the womier k87 worth it ? Are gateron switches good?or cherry better?

[wanton burrow]

cherry top ousing good

gateron best stock switches

[queen sigil]

no

[wanton burrow]

h wait

[queen sigil]

gateron is a but smoother for cheap

[wanton burrow]

don't mean stock that's not lubed

wrong word lmao

i mean for prebuilts

coz it's cheaper but still great

[timber ridge]

gateron qc is kinda trash ngl

best stock switches imo are jwk switches

[wanton burrow]

yea, but imo k66 hotswap better coz it's south facing already. more switches to fit and good for cherry profile keycaps. no interference but also not for pudding keycaps. case is translucent already so ig that still works.

[queen sigil]

i heat good things about waterkings

[timid hound]

[queen sigil]

hear

[timid hound]

peripherals hmmmmm

[wanton burrow]

ah yes, the transluscent switch

[timber ridge]

i remember nachos mentioning it a long while back , then it blew up after

[wanton burrow]

transparent build when

discipline65 + waterkings + gmk wasabi + durock v2 smokey stabs?

[timber ridge]

id build it with an id80 crystal

[charred rapids]

I really want to say screw it and just get gmmk pro

Instead of waiting for Satisfaction 75 3rd drop

[timber ridge]

hve you looked into the kl 90?

[charred rapids]

That's out of my budget

[timber ridge]

sat75 should be like the same price if not more

[sharp kindle]

ISNT THAT ONLY FOR INKS

whoops

caps lock

[charred rapids]

Sat 75 is cheaper unless I'm looking at the wrong link for Kl90

[neon quartz]

Wangson#2343 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[timber ridge]

yea inks have been questionable since launch

[sharp kindle]

dont water kings have bad stem molds

[timber ridge]

and the kl90 is 400

[sharp kindle]

i cant get used to this filter

[timber ridge]

i havent looked into waterkings

[sharp kindle]

hali says that gateron doesnt even qc them

[charred rapids]

Link for KL90

[sharp kindle]

i wouldnt be surprised if thats true

[charred rapids]

I'm seeing it for 600usd

[timber ridge]

they mightve sold out lmao

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111514.0

[lavish cosmos]

Thx

[amber oracle]

@brisk parcel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilut9TzMfXs <- have fun with a decent set of cans

[brisk parcel]

whoah

That’s crazy

so well done

[amber oracle]

both have lovely voices

[brisk parcel]

you know I HAVE to try it with my 6xx when I get them now

And you’re damn rithr bro they do

Good thing to listen to while I go to work 😂

And yes I miss spelled right to rithr on purpose

It’s an inside joke 🙂

[amber oracle]

if you dont have it already, Rag'n'bone' album Human is 100% worth picking up

[brisk parcel]

I’ll look that up rithr now

Definitely gonna give that a listen later

[amber oracle]

you are aware of the track Human right @brisk parcel ?

[brisk parcel]

I am

Just not the rest of the album 😂

[amber oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQhvBgJrVts

accu-ish version

also, if you need/want a good example of Pink knowing how to actually sing, Mr President, just about any video of it should do the trick

[timid crown]

Hey does anyone know a good place to look for custom sized mousepads? I have a really sized keyboard tray in my desk and am wondering where a good place to order a custom sized mousepad is

[amber oracle]

just about any print shop should be able to help @timid crown

because its "just" a custom vinyl print

[coral temple]

Thanks

[wanton burrow]

https://www.keychron.com/pages/qmk-prelaunch

this is prob becuase of gmmk pro

might need to look on their private group

[lavish cosmos]

Gk61 good?

[wanton burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-4880183

[lavish cosmos]

ok ty

[wanton burrow]

they're so problematic

[tight pulsar]

lol https://instagram.com/stories/smkeyboards/2555334362155314411?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=l13eu2zfoemh

[wanton burrow]

so keychron making a software for their boards is kind of my misreading

[rigid valve]

How much is GMMK PRO costs

[wanton burrow]

that post was via for their new like of boards

[wanton burrow]

170

[rigid valve]

Ow

[wanton burrow]

yep

but imo bakeneko and kbd67 lite still better

[wanton burrow]

story unavailable

[rigid valve]

Is there like a mouse mat guide that someone has

[tight pulsar]

basically their new via/qmk board is their gmmk pro

[wanton burrow]

yep

also 75%

exploded 75

gasket mount

might come in constant stock to compete against gloros and to not make another dissapointment

[tight pulsar]

i wish a larger company would just make a good top mount and not another gasket mount 75

[wanton burrow]

gummy worm oring mount too coz it's interesting

[tight pulsar]

thats why its so easy to make a good top mount tkl

step 1. have hiney h87/88 support
step 2. use jane v2/v2 ce plate for f12 or f13
step 3. add posts to allow for gunmyworm
bam it’s an amazing top mount tkl and you can gummyworm it if you want

[wanton burrow]

epbt black-red jp subs or npkc white-orange?

[tight pulsar]

crp

[timber ridge]

xraypads and theres another website but i lowkey forgot

[brisk parcel]

@amber oracle I’ll keep that in mind too, thanks buddy 🙂

[timber ridge]

RVU is 99 bucks with the dock rn

if anyone is interested

[amber oracle]

anytime

[sharp kindle]

i agree with kbd67lite but bakeneko is 60 percent and someone looking at a 75% probably doesnt want a 60 percent

[rugged lion]

~no problemo

[lone chasm]

Anyone know if the grips that come with the G Pro x Superlight are any good?

[brisk parcel]

❤️❤️

[rigid valve]

question

anyone know keebs with rgb backlighting

like not prebuils

just the housing or whatever its called

the board

[rugged lion]

Pcb with rgb

What size?

[rigid valve]

tkl or full

[rugged lion]

So a case, pcb, plate

With rgb

[rigid valve]

sorta

[rugged lion]

Do u have a budget?

[rigid valve]

not really

it depends on how big the feature differences are

[rugged lion]

Any preference on hotswap or solder

[rigid valve]

hotswap

solder scares me ngl

[rugged lion]

Hm

[rigid valve]

or would it make more sense to buy hotswappable rgb keybord

and swap switches

[timber ridge]

id87 v2 is 220 im p sure

[queen sigil]

i wonder if its possible to oring mount razer keyboards

[tight pulsar]

probably not

[queen sigil]

how consistant is the feel and souns on oring mounted tofus

do u know

[tight pulsar]

burger mount or gummyworm

[queen sigil]

ima be honest i dont know the differnce

[sharp kindle]

burger is small o rings on the standoffs

gummy worm is a big flaccid band that goes all the way around the plate and pcb assembly

[queen sigil]

ok burger

apparently brand new

[rigid valve]

how much is normal

[queen sigil]

actually nvm u can get them for 100USD on amazon

[rigid valve]

like 180?

oh

[queen sigil]

its just the other like cyberpunk one that's expensive

[odd sable]

im gonna get the viper mini

bc small hands

[rigid valve]

its a great mouse

my friend has one
my cousin has one
my brother has one
i have one

[odd sable]

it really seems like it

[neon root]

180 for the ultimate normally but though only once have i seen this sale because it was during christmas, the ultimate was at $80

[odd sable]

it's perfect size for my small ass hands too

[neon root]

which is a great deal considering the mouse

[odd sable]

they're selling it for like $40 on the website

the viper mini

iirc

[rigid valve]

yeah its 40 normally

one of their cheapest mice

along with deathadder essential

[neon root]

$30 rn for the mini

[odd sable]

i thought it was 40

[neon root]

rn

sale

[timber ridge]

viper ultimate is 100

rn

[queen sigil]

yeah

[timber ridge]

on amazon/bestbuy

[odd sable]

oh

nice

[timber ridge]

with the dock

im gonna pick one up tbh

[neon root]

i got my ultimate for $80 during christmas

[sharp kindle]

actual goat mouse

[queen sigil]

im fine with my cheap mice

[odd sable]

ye

[rigid valve]

when prime day

[odd sable]

they had it at like a walmart once

and i put my hand on it

and instantly thought im gonna get that

[timber ridge]

i got a viper mini rn

if they drop a viper mini ultimate id buy it instantly

[rigid valve]

what would they add

[queen sigil]

I got a free Corsair g305 clone and a free hyperx pulsefire dart

[odd sable]

tf would a viper mini ultimate even be

like

extra buttons or something

[timber ridge]

wireless

[rigid valve]

ohhh

[queen sigil]

and I use the g305 because I think i'm liking claw better than palm

[odd sable]

that makes sense

[timber ridge]

yup

i run two mice so itd be nice if i had one wireless mouse

[neon root]

i wouldnt like the idea of a viper mini ultimate if they keep the charging dock for it because that would ruin the realestate of the bottom of the mouse for mouse feet

[sharp kindle]

wireless

[neon root]

viper mini already smol, dont need even smoller mouse feet

[timber ridge]

the ptfe pads on the mini are p big

but the dock would def shrink it down

[neon root]

yes

by quite a bit

like

a lot

[timber ridge]

for 100 bucks tho, i think the rvu is a better pick than the mow

v2 models supposedly have better switches which are less mushy

[neon root]

this is the viper ultimate. treating the viper mini the same the viper mini would have even more smol feet than these

theyd have to make changes to the charging dock if they do make one for the mini to try and keep the feet they have now without ruining them

[queen sigil]

why are the feet so small

[neon root]

main issue is the middle cutout which lets the mouse sit on the charging dock

extends to the bottom cutting off the bottom mouse feet which sucks

theyd have to move the cutout more towards the center and make it smaller so they can keep the large mouse feet if they were to do a viper mini ultimate

if they do make a viper mini ultimate though and do as i say, im finna buy

theyd also have to remove the rubber side grips. i dont like the rubber side grips for the viper lineup

[rigid valve]

Oh yeah I forgot the wireless stuff need charge

Reject charging
Return to wires

[glass bear]

the viper ultimate is on sale

[odd sable]

k

[glass bear]

for 99 with the dock

i really wanna get it

[rigid valve]

Wait with the dock?
That’s a steal

Hmmmm

[glass bear]

and its on amazon so good support and stuff

[timber ridge]

😔✌️

[glass bear]

sheesh

im gonna have to ship it to

[rigid valve]

Damn lance

Ur knee is hawt

[glass bear]

an amazon locker and then sneak out lol

[odd sable]

nice

[timber ridge]

it's the same price at bestbuy

wish my store had more colors but didn't wanna wait for shipping

[glass bear]

easier for me to get it from amazon

locker is down the street

if i bike like 4 minutes

[rigid valve]

Have y’all ever tried play games with ergo mouse in other hand

[glass bear]

if i do end up buying

itll be with mining money

[daring zenith]

I tried playing games with ambi mouse in other hand

not nice

[rigid valve]

Lol

[timber ridge]

welp rip my viper mini

time to retire it

[rigid valve]

Wait lance

Wait nvm

Wait

Nvm

[timber ridge]

idk if you nvm your nvm

[glass bear]

viper mini is a great mouse

[rigid valve]

Yes

[timber ridge]

yup

best value imo

and is wired endgame

[queen sigil]

wow rude you didnt get me one

[rigid valve]

yeah man

so rude

[glass bear]

yeah and its crazy for its price

[neon root]

ultimate has been on sale for $80 before

but it was during black friday/cyber monday

[glass bear]

with dock? @neon root

@neon root

[hollow flower]

I’m thinking about building a custom keyboard but I have no clue what switches I should go for

I’m trying to stay under $150

[timber ridge]

ks3 yellows for linear

t1s for tactile

unless you wanna mess with greentechs or feker pandas

[daring zenith]

feker panda might need lube

[tight pulsar]

well yeah they both do but they're cheap

[hollow flower]

Also what should I be looking for in a chassis and key caps

I have absolutely no clue other than I want to put together a custom keyboard

And what’s the difference between linear and tactile

[neon root]

ye. only reason why i have the ultimate since i bought it then

[daring zenith]

hm

[neon root]

$80 for the ultimate

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar any good custom kits now kbd67 lite gone?

[neon root]

also ultimate = dock
wireless just the wireless mouse, no dock

the wireless was $70 during that time but i mean $10 for the dock; i mean

[hollow flower]

It doesn’t have to be hot swap if that makes anything easier

[daring zenith]

uhhhh

[neon root]

when in rome might as well get the dock for the viper ultimate

[daring zenith]

can you solder?

[hollow flower]

I build guitar amps from scratch so I’d say yes I can very well

[daring zenith]

hm

whenever nachos comes back

cheapest decent board I knew was kbd67 lite, hotswap, but gb gone now

[hollow flower]

Ahh ok

[wanton burrow]

the r1 i think still sold in stock on mechanicalkeyboards.com

only black rn iirc

[daring zenith]

hm

[timber ridge]

d60 lite is coming out soon

[wanton burrow]

linear = smooth all the way, good ones sound clean
Tactile = has tactile bump, more broad topic than linear coz different bumps. not so budget coz it will base on ur feel more than sound.

[wanton burrow]

oof

[daring zenith]

I also have gifs

tactile:

https://input.club/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BrownSwitch-3D.gif

dat bump

linear:

https://input.club/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cherry-mx-red-500px-15-frames.gif

dat smooth slide

[tight pulsar]

bakeneko is basically the best one when it comes out

[daring zenith]

moar and moar research will do the job

hm interesting

@tight pulsar isn't that the 60% one tho

[tight pulsar]

and

[daring zenith]

i no liek rec 60% for new people

[tight pulsar]

its not that hard to use a 60 people

[daring zenith]

how do you get into bios

[tight pulsar]

fn

[daring zenith]

wack

[neon root]

or, dont be lazy if youre already in windows you can enter bios through windows instead

yeet

[wanton burrow]

there's bakeneko65 iirc but i haven't seen any ic for it

still on github and stuff

[timber ridge]

keychron is dropping some soon

hopefully

[sharp kindle]

bakeneko better

gummy worm o ring

alu case

[tight pulsar]

so i'm trying to buy some light tactiles to try different ones

[sharp kindle]

retooled or hyperglide browns

pewters

wait why am i recommending stuff to nachos

[tight pulsar]

and this dude is trying to sell me 75 cherry browns lubed+filmed for $65

[sharp kindle]

im dumb

[sharp kindle]

lmao

show him your niche thai gb items

[tight pulsar]

bro when they're back in stock they're .30ish

[queen sigil]

imagine thinking lubing icnrease price

[tight pulsar]

well it does but thats not the point

[sharp kindle]

his lube job is probably horrible too

[tight pulsar]

that's good vint brown price

no i trust him on doing a decent job i seen him around a fair bit so i'd assume he isn't new/bad to lubing

okay somebody else has retool browns lets see how much he wants

okay its been 3 minutes and this is the third person with browns how many people have browns to sell

okay no never mind this dude has koalas

[wanton burrow]

i might go with ocean blues

$0.22/switch

[tight pulsar]

he seems nice tho

akko?

[wanton burrow]

yea

[tight pulsar]

i've heard they're decent for the price

[wanton burrow]

yea, a review compared it to t1

like, a less agressive t1 iirc

[tight pulsar]

lol this guy is selling 70 for 25 shipped

okay i will soon be in possession of mx browns

[wanton burrow]

lol i thought that was $25 for 70

in which is prob the price of actual mx browns

[tight pulsar]

no he is selling them for $25

[wanton burrow]

ah

[glass bear]

On one hand I really want the dock

But on the other hand that's a dead giveaway

[sharp kindle]

i found the 16 cent jwks

gonna buy 500 so i never have to buy switches again

[queen sigil]

yo send me some

[sharp kindle]

theyre 16 cents its 100 for 16 bucks you get some yourself

[queen sigil]

off taobao?

[sharp kindle]

https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy?nTag=Home-search&from=search-input&_search=url&position=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fitem.taobao.com%2Fitem.htm%3Fid%3D628703622748

[queen sigil]

@sharp kindle what switches are they

[wise token]

jwick

[sharp kindle]

get the Jian Haos

[wise token]

the ones that start with jiang are the jiwck, just different stem color and spring weight

[sharp kindle]

huang = 67g bottom
hong = 60g
bai = 37

weight breakdown

@queen sigil

[queen sigil]

HELL YEAH 37G?????????

oh so its jwck

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[queen sigil]

whats the difference between jiwck and JWK

[glass bear]

oh

on amazon the ultimate is also sold without the dock

https://www.razer.com/gear-accessories/razer-reusable-straw/RC81-03540101-R3M1

does razer straw count as peripheral

damn youd have to be a mega chad to suck that though

[queen sigil]

yeah razer can get their fanboys to buy anything

[glass bear]

ikr

i mean it doesnt look half bad

but its also 20 dollars for a piece of metal that probably cost them 8 dollars from their supplier in china

[queen sigil]

8$ is a streatch

[glass bear]

never mind more like 3

i searched it up on amazon

6 95 with free shipping LMFAO

[wanton burrow]

ymdk wings/split 64?

[little crater]

yo is razer website just broken for anyone else

it loads then goes totally black

oh nvm it was trying to harass me to log in, but it was doing a poor job at it lol

[neon root]

never had a problem with razer site'

nor has it ever asked me to log in

[timber ridge]

@queen sigil bouta change my 67 lite build

kat cyberspace is legit gonna take 1 year

[queen sigil]

what r u changing

[timber ridge]

im aim for gmk rainday and tropical switches prob

gonna wait for 1 more update then decide prob

[tight pulsar]

what color case?

[timber ridge]

black

[tight pulsar]

grab a set of crp when r4 runs

very good quality and good colorways and pretty well priced

[timber ridge]

gotta link to an ic or anything?

[tight pulsar]

https://imgur.com/a/Vx0O6w4

if it’s priced similarly to the run on taobao it should be 35ish for most alphas and 45-65 for the modifiers

[timber ridge]

i might be picking up epbt cyrillic

looks p similar ngl

[tight pulsar]

cause they’re both based on a sav board

[timber ridge]

what vendor are they doing the gb with?

[tight pulsar]

probably syruplabs like when they ran r2.2

[timber ridge]

geekark dolch looks p nice too

[rigid valve]

Is there a site or chart or something that’s like
How much click do u want
What color
What force
What travel
Ok these are the best options

Because I’d hate to keep on harassing you guys abt keeb

[queen sigil]

@tight pulsar whats the best light tactile u can get rn

in ur opin

[tight pulsar]

uh well probably vint browns but if we're being more practical the jwk ones look decent

and if they don't sound that great you can probably put milky or cherry tops on them

[queen sigil]

how do greetech browns compare to other switches

and hows the qc

[rigid valve]

im having an eyegasm

sexy keeb

cool mouse

and the NUGGIES

wait wait wait hold up

apple keyboard is 100usd

what

[queen sigil]

those look like mini corndogs

not nuggets

smh

[rigid valve]

omg im sorry

both are amazing

[tight pulsar]

well the leaves are perfect if you want a clicky switch and they're bone dry so super scratchy, decent after lubing, and very loose top housings

[rugged lion]

SHEESH

[wraith roost]

Yes

Mini corn dogs > nuggies.

Why everyone sleep on mini corn dogs?

[sharp kindle]

the deskmat is the best part

[wraith roost]

Ty

I enjoy it

Gator Ron approves

[sharp kindle]

Gater Ron lets go

[wraith roost]

https://tenor.com/view/farmers-alligator-feed-alligator-fail-gif-14684132

[coral temple]

Check out novelkeys they’re having a clear eve sale pretty good deals. Also can sum1 recommend me a TKL pcb/case combo?

Clearance*

[sharp kindle]

its still going?

box pinks for 22 bucks

110 box pinks for 22 bucks is actually insane

[coral temple]

Yep

Imma get hako royal trues

Can any1 send me a hot swap TKL I’m thinking the keychron c1

[queen sigil]

yikes box pinks

they too light

[sharp kindle]

preference moment

[queen sigil]

ur a prefernce

but if u got pinks and think they are good weight then u got some weak fingies

[sly warren]

Aren't pinks like, 45g?

[tight pulsar]

idk but probably

[rigid valve]

uhh

do you mean BOX Pinks by Kailh

because uh

from novelkeys

[queen sigil]

im thinking of box silent pinks

[rigid valve]

Those are like 35-45g

Light

[sharp kindle]

you can always spring swap

[wanton burrow]

yo

holy razer

'greetech' razer green + halo true stem

[queen sigil]

thats olda

[wanton burrow]

yea but like, just seen it last night

[little crater]

my microphone has stopped functioning

and i do not know why

is very sad

[slow galleon]

Looking for keyboard and mouse, tenkey mechanical would be preferred
Budget is $80-90 split between both
Thanks in advance

[queen sigil]

Keychron C1 and mouse depends on what grip type and hand size @slow galleon

[slow galleon]

handsize is medium, grip type is average

[rigid valve]

Are you looking for ergonomic mouse or ambi

[wanton burrow]

keychron K4/C2, Leopold FC980M. for mice, get a ruler then measure ur hand. there's no average grip type lol. i assume ur ''average'' grip type is on ur right hand?

[slow galleon]

Yes

[wanton burrow]

ambidextrous means it fits both hands while ergo fits onto one specific hand.

[wanton burrow]

do you like, grip the mice like it fits or ur palm (palm grip) or you just mainly grip it with your fingers (claw & fingertip grip)?

[slow galleon]

palm grip

[slow galleon]

ambi

[queen sigil]

SPLIT BETWEEN BOTH

[wanton burrow]

yo so akko cs rose reds was a long boi long pole

[queen sigil]

he he bouta get a 980m within 90$

those are like 120$

[wanton burrow]

that's why it's only 3.5mm travel

[wanton burrow]

ah, just suggesting it in case they get some leftover from the mice

[queen sigil]

he got 90$ how he gonna get a 120$ keyboard lol

[wanton burrow]

but he said palm grip which is idk bout palm grip

[queen sigil]

G502?

[wanton burrow]

palm ambi he wants

'medium' hand

[queen sigil]

well ambi palm grip doesnt really exist

or at least ive never heard of one

[wanton burrow]

ah ic

[sharp kindle]

it does exist

elige from tl has one

its just not that common

[timber ridge]

@tight pulsar you familiar with blue velvet switches ?

[wanton burrow]

y'all think dielectric grease is too thick for a holee modded stab?

in case i need to holee mod i might need a less thicker lube

[wanton burrow]

ok i think imma frankenswitch ks3 yellows and akko cs rose reds

long pole frankenswitch and the leftover is a display switch similar to banana splits

[tight pulsar]

i haven’t tried them but they seem decent if you want that kind of tactile

[wanton burrow]

akko rose reds stem + ks3 housing frankenswitch

the leftover rose reds housing and yellow stem might look nice to put in a jar

[timber ridge]

i was gonna go for linears maybe

ktt rose looks v nice too but its out of stock everywhere

[wanton burrow]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/bakeneko-60?_pos=4&_sid=481fd1569&_ss=r

[queen sigil]

its cast aluminum

and painted i think

[wanton burrow]

yes

gommyworm o-ring mount

cherry clip-in stabs on stock

only $130

unique mounting style

looks clean

constant stock

fr4 plate

can only acommodate clip-in stabs coz screw-ins has some issues with it

doesn't have regional vendors so shipping takes so much money and time (at least for me)

[tight pulsar]

clip ins aren’t even bad

[wanton burrow]

well yea, but it rly has some problems with screw-ins so it's more of a note when you're wanting to buy it other stab

[glad matrix]

can anyone tell me what is the differnce in color coding Cat Cabling (5-9)?

[wanton burrow]

but tbh i think cherry clip-ins might be decent already

[daring zenith]

@glad matrix I don't think each version is color coded, but comparisons here
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/connectivity/ethernet-ieee-802-3/cables-types-pinout-cat-5-5e-6.php

[sly warren]

I've finally found it...

My holy grail of Keyboards.

https://iqunix.store/collections/80-series/products/iqunix-l80-formula-typing-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32620689948732

This thing is awesome. 165-ish bucks. Hotswap, has not only Bluetooth, but also 2.4ghz reciever and Wired.

[calm cobalt]

yo i need a good keeb n mice

[sly warren]

Keyboard: What kind of switches do you want?

Mouse: https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search Measure Hand in cm and figure out your grip style.

Thank you PayPal Pay in 4! Got the Iqunix L80 for 40 dollars over 4 payments!

[queen sigil]

190$ for a tray mount plastic case with north facing switches

yikes

[queen sigil]

budget?

and why would gateron be the same price as cherry

like who would choose gateron over cherry at the same price on a hotswap

[daring zenith]

I would >:D

[sly warren]

I would

Gaterons are less scratchy from my experience

And who really cares if the outer case is plastic. You ain't trying to slug someone with it.

If I wanted a self defense product to go with my keyboard I'd buy a Model M

[sly warren]

I got mine for 160 on the dot. Free shipping, and no tax. There was a video I watched on it and they had a promo code for like 5% off

And it's already on sale.

[queen sigil]

i mean mx reds arent better value but id say they are better switches

[tight pulsar]

weight isn't the only difference between them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVD31ZTo-z4

[queen sigil]

my god thats so hollow

but i mean sound and feel arent too tall on his priority list

75% and bluetooth are much more important

[calm cobalt]

@queen sigil 180

[queen sigil]

@calm cobalt do you need a specific sized keyboard

and do you need stuff like RGB

[sharp kindle]

oh god wtf

[sly warren]

This goes even further beyond just bluetooth. It comes with a 2.4ghz dongle too.

[queen sigil]

if you need 2.4 ghz just use wired

[daring zenith]

I don't see need for 2.4ghz after using bt :p

[sly warren]

You clearly underestimate the usefulness of a wireless keyboard.

BT is a bit laggy for use for Gaming, but the 2.4Ghz dongle still has NKRO and 1000Hz Polling Rate.

[sharp kindle]

who needs 1000hz polling rate for keebs

[daring zenith]

Pretty sure bt still has nkro?

[queen sigil]

heh hi @sharp kindle

[sly warren]

1000hz is the standard for USB Polling.

[sharp kindle]

hi Leyo

[queen sigil]

1000 hz for keyboards is not neccessary for any games

unless you play rhythm games

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring zenith]

T a b l e t

[sharp kindle]

even then its unnecessary

[queen sigil]

only if u play like osu mania

[sharp kindle]

if youre using hall effect switches maybe but with a mech switch its useless

[daring zenith]

Also if you're worrying about bt vs 2.4ghz latency wouldn't you go for optical switches? Don't those technically have a few ns quicker response time?

[queen sigil]

https://youtu.be/DK4X4TrsbBA

[sly warren]

That extra few ns is... not worth it. And most optical switches don't have a good feel to me.

[queen sigil]

u need good press and releasing time

[daring zenith]

Lol

[sharp kindle]

my fingers hurt looking at this

[queen sigil]

this level isnt even hard

its fun tho

https://youtu.be/LvY2L5RS-6s

[daring zenith]

I call hax

[queen sigil]

8 min song lol

[daring zenith]

@queen sigil why do you need to say 15.93gb usable lel

It just bothers me a bit

[queen sigil]

that was geforce

i used gforce to upload

instead of just uploading the file

[queen sigil]

laughs in 63.5g tactiles

[sharp kindle]

bruh

[queen sigil]

tbh linears are better for games

also osu mania is probs one of the most intimidating rhythm games

https://youtu.be/ULFpTUOjpZo

osu mania leaderboards lol

[swift lantern]

This really do be a please go outside moment

[sharp kindle]

kek

[queen sigil]

i mean you could probs say that to anybody who's #1 at any game

bro jakads is actually different

https://youtu.be/2f0HkRiB500

he does better one hand then me with two

[calm cobalt]

@queen sigil 65

[timber ridge]

welp my kono order is cancelled

i lowkey overspent bc i spent 189 on a cap/switches

and it was supposed to be budget

[daring zenith]

Lol

[queen sigil]

WAT

wat

[timber ridge]

yea, idk

i got 181 back

but ima spend like half of it or something

[queen sigil]

what board were u buyin stuff for

[timber ridge]

the lite

ima aim for ktt rose, and a cheap keycap set

idk which, maybe hk or some ali kit

[queen sigil]

olivia clones

[timber ridge]

find me one with a decent legend

[queen sigil]

none found

[timber ridge]

if kbd restocks in cases, ima jus get a new case and rock islander

[queen sigil]

u got white case?

god i cant play osu mania im so rusty

[timber ridge]

i have a black case

[queen sigil]

wait you got a black kbd67?

[timber ridge]

yup

[rugged lion]

man i really want a kbd67

[timber ridge]

i think ima pick up keychron's qmk board when it drops

[solar nebula]

whats a good keyboard

that doesnt cost over 180 dollars

[timber ridge]

peep pinned messages

[wise token]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112430.0

pylon's been doing good work recently with his force curve tester

[sharp kindle]

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/blogs/news/gmmk-pro-possible-qmk-compatibility-impacts-from-global-chip-shortage

[lusty beacon]

oof i hope my flex batch order is fulfilled before that switch

[queen sigil]

i mean it doesnt matter unless you use QMK

[timber ridge]

the longer its out, the worse it gets lol

[sharp kindle]

tbh i dont blame glorious for it

what can they do

[timber ridge]

true

this is out of their control, but everything else that was an issue was

[lusty beacon]

the other option id imagine is to just take longer to fill orders while production is slow, or is production completely halted on the arm chip?

[tight pulsar]

https://www.cnet.com/news/from-ps5-to-ford-f-150-how-a-global-chip-shortage-is-impacting-everything/

[sly warren]

Solution: Just halt sales on new EVERYTHING for like, 8 to 12 months. Only produce parts needed to keep older products running so you can build a backlog of new parts for new products.

New car sales? Not needed, buy a Used car and help save the environment. New fridge? Buy a used one, it'll help keep more freon out of the ozone layer. New phone? Buy a used one, less E-Waste.

[rigid valve]

good luck convincing people to just buy only used stuff though

"omg used bad"

[sly warren]

Those people are what we call idiots.

[rigid valve]

and they are plentiful

your idea is absolutely perfect

if we don't account for the human aspect

[sly warren]

I have a Used Oculus Quest. No problems with it. Used iPod Mini, amazing little MP3 Player that can be upgraded. And a used Saitek X52 HOTAS that just needed a little contact cleaner on the Twist Potentiometer to make it work properly.

Hell, if I didn't have my contract with Verizon I'd probably be buying a Used Phone to replace my Pixel 2 XL

Verizon kinda sucks in terms of what phones you can buy.

[rigid valve]

mmmm

[timber ridge]

verizon do be cursed

[swift lantern]

Idea is a good one if we didn't live in a capitalist profit driven world

They ain't gonna stop doing things gahah

[calm cobalt]

Hello I need help finding a 60% hot swap board under 110 cad

[daring zenith]

At that price point, you'd be probably finding one of the [ ]k61 boards

make sure it's mech hotswap tho

[calm cobalt]

What’s k61

[sharp kindle]

kemove k61

or wormier k61

cant remember the company name

[daring zenith]

I mean any of the [blank]k 61 boards