peripherals-and-displays

[queen sigil]

of what's the most important and what's the least important to yoyu

because on one hand you really want u4t's and on the other handd you dont care that ur getting a super hollow tray mount

[sly warren]

Most Important: Bluetooth, 75% or TKL Layout, White or RGB Backlighting, White Default Caps, White or Grey bottom, Hotswap (To add new switches)

Least Important: Weight (It could weigh a literal brick, I don't care)

I can let the 75% slide to size up to TKL

[tight pulsar]

okay since when was a tkl okay

[sly warren]

But can't go size down

[tight pulsar]

that makes it way easier

[queen sigil]

[sly warren]

I prefer 75% because it's more compact

There's no spacing gaps anywhere

[queen sigil]

and where does sound and feel land on that list

because it seems like it would go pretty close to the bottom

[sly warren]

Let me list off the prior boards I've used.

Corsair Strafe (MX Reds), Magicforce 68 (Otemu Blues), GMMK Full Size (Gat Blacks), this Yuunzi board (Blues I think Gat?), and an Aukey TKL board (Otemu ICE Blues)

I don't like Linear, but Clicky noise is a bit much, but I like the feel of a Clicky

[queen sigil]

yeah and those are all tray mounts

[sly warren]

(If I could have one switch, I'd want Matias Quiet Clicks, tried a Planck with them and it felt heavenly but that doesn't come in what I need for my use case)

So... any results that aren't going to be Group Buys?

Or am I going to have to sacrifice children until someone makes me the board of my dreams?

[queen sigil]

so what it seems like ur priorities are
Bluetooth, tkl/75%, Build quality, feel, sound

[sly warren]

I guess on the Build Quality feel and sound. Not 100% sure the jump in price would be justifiable.

[queen sigil]

no point in putting u4t's in a cheap board that isnt gonna sound that good or feel that good reguardless

[sly warren]

Yeah, but I don't want to be spending like 500 dollars just because some internet man said mah keyboard was gonna sound poopoo

Reasonable budget would be 300 all told.

[queen sigil]

i've literally had a keychron k2 before

and i have a kbd67lite right now

Don't know who else could give you a comparison

[tight pulsar]

i had a tofu does that count

[queen sigil]

i mean they basically the same

unless u oring mount

[tight pulsar]

it was stiff and packed full of foam

[sly warren]

Lack of F-Keys is a no-no

I use them way too much for them to be on a function layer.

[queen sigil]

tbh its easier to use function layers than press f keys

[sly warren]

No it isn't.

I tried it with the MF68

[queen sigil]

easier to hit function and a number key than to find the f key since they are kind out of reach

[sly warren]

No bueno

[queen sigil]

and again

GET A WRIST WREST

[sly warren]

No?

[tight pulsar]

no

[queen sigil]

if ur getting a keychron

[sly warren]

I've never needed a wrist rest.

[tight pulsar]

just have strong wrists like the koreans

[queen sigil]

well you've never tried a keychron

[sly warren]

But, you are also not giving me any other alternatives.

[queen sigil]

I mean I have

but you NEED bluetooth and 75%

[sly warren]

Yeah.

Or TKL

[queen sigil]

and you don't really care about feel or sound

[sly warren]

I can wiggle a little.

[tight pulsar]

is the id80 bluetooth

[queen sigil]

no

i dont think so

[tight pulsar]

darn

[sly warren]

TKL is similar enough in size to 75%

I use the F-Keys way too often to have them on a layer.

[tight pulsar]

yes we know

[sly warren]

Hell, if I go with some botique board, I'll have to deal with not having Media Functions

Which will likely mean I will buy a Media function board thing.

Another point in Keychron favor.

[tight pulsar]

or you could just use qmk and remap it

[queen sigil]

and for switches just get feker pandas

[sly warren]

And also if the main complaint is "it's hollow" just add something in the bigass bottom section on top of the battery

[queen sigil]

since you probs wouldnt care about the slight change in sound

or it being more scratchy

[sly warren]

Scratchy is a no-go

[tight pulsar]

scratch city springs on the fekers

besides that they're nice and cheap

[sly warren]

Also the KBD67 has no lighting on the BT PCB version

I don't NEED RGB, but at least White backlighting is what I'd want.

I tend to set my RGB to White anyways.

Since the rest of my build is White.

Hmm...

How's the MKB87?

https://kprepublic.com/products/mkb87-87-key-dual-mode-bluetooth-mechanical-keyboard-kit-80-tkl-hot-swappable-switch-lighting-effects-rgb-switch-led-type-c?variant=35022502920355

I could paint the case at least.

[queen sigil]

basically the same keyboard

still just a tray mount keyboard with plate mount stabs\

just kinda looks different

[sly warren]

So at this point you are telling me your suggestion of this mythical "gasket mount" just doesn't exist in my needs.

[queen sigil]

keychron k2 is hands down the tallest keyboard i've ever typed on

[queen sigil]

yes

exactally

because your needs has bluetooth

[sly warren]

Then why TF did you suggest it in the first place?

[queen sigil]

and most people dont need bluetooth

[sly warren]

Yeah, a BASIC FEATURE

[queen sigil]

except with most products, not using bluetooth lets them either increase quality

decrease price

[sly warren]

Acutally, I don't think the MKB87 comes with a batt

[queen sigil]

or let the targeted audience do what they want

[sly warren]

Oh, eww

It comes with a paltry 1900mAh battery

🤮

[queen sigil]

since 90% of like actual keyboard enthusiasts would prefer QMK/VIA over bluetooth

and plus keychron keyboards dont last that long with backlight on

[sly warren]

Still, 4000mAh > 1900mAh

[queen sigil]

with backlight on ur probs gonna need to charge it every day

[sly warren]

I mean, I'd turn the backlight off when using Wireless Mode.

I'm not a caveman

Hmm... I wonder if the firmware is smart enough to turn the backlight off after X seconds of non-use...

Probably not...

Which makes me sad.

https://epomaker.com/collections/tkl-86/products/epomaker-gk87-kit?variant=31895652237385 Would this at least be better than a Keychron height wise?

I could probably find a way to put a bigger battery in it.

[queen sigil]

keychron doesnt have any software

so u cant customize rgb or anything

[sly warren]

you can, it's just built onto the keyboard.

[queen sigil]

besides like the presets they give you

[sly warren]

I typically just leave it on Static White

[daring zenith]

@sly warren There is an auto-sleep mode, that might do it (turns off keeb after 10 minutes)

[sly warren]

I'm slightly leaning towards this Epomaker GK87S kit

But, I'd have to buy Caps for it.

Which likely adds cost.

It's 89.00 (plus shipping) for an Epomaker GK87S kit

[queen sigil]

@daring zenith do u type with ur wrists on ur desk

[daring zenith]

I go wrist rest

[queen sigil]

yeah ok

keychron wrist wrest very important

[daring zenith]

but my wrist rest feels too thicc

I actually kinda like resting my wrist on my desk tho

[queen sigil]

i mean is it a keychron one

[daring zenith]

no

[queen sigil]

[daring zenith]

I didn't want a hard wrist rest

Actually I think I currently type faster without a wrist rest than with

but I'm weird

[sly warren]

Dammit... I'm now starting to re-think how much I use the F-Keys...

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[daring zenith]

lol

[queen sigil]

i use function keys for alot of games

but I just remap

or I just dont care

[sly warren]

How good are the EPBT caps that KBDFans sells?

Do I need to Lube Boba U4T's?

Or are they just good to go out of the box?

It'd be 182 for me to get a BT KBD67 Lite and a full set of Boba U4T's before Keycaps

[queen sigil]

kbdfans has like 20$ shippinh

[daring zenith]

I did the thing

[queen sigil]

noice

[sly warren]

I'm talking in raw prices right now before shipping.

[daring zenith]

205g0 and lube station now bought

am happi

[tight pulsar]

@daring zenith you should of bought greetechs for $11

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar no, I don't want to

I'm quite sure T1s are what I want

[sly warren]

Ok, final thing. I think I'm just gonna bite on a KBD67 at this point (when I get the money together) Do I NEED to lube Boba U4T's?

Bueller?

[tight pulsar]

if ur fine with them stock then don’t lube them

[sly warren]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I hear others say to NOT lube them because they are fine.

You people are too subjective with this stuff. Does lubing them objectively make them better?

[wise token]

as long as you know how to lube it makes them objectively smoother and objectivity different sounding

[sly warren]

WTF?!?

The BATTERY IS SOLD SEPARATE?!?

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

OH AND IT ISN'T ON A CONNECTOR UNLESS YOU ASK FOR IT?!?

[west hornet]

Woah a second nacho

[sly warren]

No, that's just unacceptable GARBAGE

If i'm buying a kit, it should come with everything except Switches and Caps

[tight pulsar]

well that's not how a lot of kits are

[queen sigil]

bruh

if you dont like that

then dont go custom

like at all

[west hornet]

That is custom keyboard life

[neon quartz]

Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sly warren]

Oh right.

Why are you pushing me to go Custom if it doesn't come with everything I need?!?

If I buy a Raspberry Pi kit, it comes with everything I need for a functional raspberry pi.

If I buy a Model Rocket Kit, it comes with everything I need to launch a model rocket.

But apparently if I buy a keyboard kit, they omit important things like a BATTERY for a Bluetooth kit

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[tiny monolith]

You guys think this is worth?

I brought him down to 265

[queen sigil]

no

NO

silk switches is like 40$
Kbd67 is like 130$ including shipping
Lube is like 20$ (enough for multiple keyboards)
and keycaps is like maybe 40$

[tight pulsar]

you could do a build like that for 200ish+shipping

[tiny monolith]

Okay okay thank you.

I want a keyboard but just don’t know what to look for.

[queen sigil]

that's a good keyboard

but just not for that price

[tiny monolith]

He’s prob charging a builders fee

[queen sigil]

@tiny monolith you looking into building one or you just gonna buy one?

[tiny monolith]

Willing to build it myself it’s cheaper

[tight pulsar]

i hope he's not looking for a bluetooth 75%

[queen sigil]

LMAO

ok

[queen sigil]

it'll def be cheaper but it'll take a while for the stuff to arrive

like possibly months for the keyboard

[tiny monolith]

How long does kbd stuff take to arrive?

[queen sigil]

ACTUALLY

I take that back

divinikey has them in stock

https://divinikey.com/products/kbdfans-kbd67-lite-mechanical-keyboard-diy-kit

you could go with this one

OR

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbd67lite

One of these

the second option will take a while to ship tho

[tiny monolith]

Yikes

[queen sigil]

but there are better colors on the second one

[tiny monolith]

Any suggestions on tactile switches?

Thinking about holy pandas

[queen sigil]

id say no on those'

[tiny monolith]

And for linear alpacas

[queen sigil]

ah ok

[wise token]

thats 9 days thats not even a lot

[queen sigil]

nachos is here

[queen sigil]

it says may

not march

[tiny monolith]

^

[queen sigil]

[tiny monolith]

Alpalcas? Good

Alpacas

[wise token]

thats basically par with their normal shipping but that shouldn't be too bad

its not 14 months like gmk future funk

[queen sigil]

what

oh'

[tiny monolith]

What’s wrong with them!

?*^

[queen sigil]

they like

really expensive

[tiny monolith]

$80

[queen sigil]

yeah 1$+ per switch is pretty expensive

[queen sigil]

don't get a drop alt

[tiny monolith]

Bs

[queen sigil]

get a kbd67 lite if anything

or an ikki68

[wise token]

oh leyo did you hear they're supposed to finally a 5 pin pcb on the alt soon

[tiny monolith]

Hear*

Loo

[wise token]

yes

[queen sigil]

i mean ur still paying big bucks for a tray mount

[wise token]

i hope they keep the legendary traces https://preview.redd.it/1pay69t61ku11.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=72b7e64eabd7bf948786ccc0a2a81b06ed93d977

[tiny monolith]

What’s a good alternative for holy pandas?

[tiny monolith]

Don’t want a plastic case.

[queen sigil]

why is that?

[tiny monolith]

The sound

I want a premium sounding and feeling keyboard

[queen sigil]

then get a kbd67 lite

aluminum doesnt make a keyboard feel or sound better

[tiny monolith]

Difference between drop and glorious pandas?

[queen sigil]

basically the same iirc

[daring zenith]

iirc one has the authentic housing one has the authentic stem or smth

[tiny monolith]

Which one is better?

[queen sigil]

that's all subjective

i'd recommend doing some research

before spending alot of money on a keyboard

[steep pelican]

Wasn’t there a keyboard chart thing in the pins before

Nevermind my service went out lol

[tight pulsar]

preference

[tight pulsar]

that was much needed

[gloomy berry]

I got a good lol out of all of this

[tiny monolith]

Wtf is ups ground and should I pay extra for it

[tight pulsar]

i’d just go with usps prio or free shipping

[tiny monolith]

Doesn’t even tell me estimated delivery

Bs

Leyo should get sponsored by davikey. He just got them a customer lol.

[daring zenith]

@queen sigil 3204 good for tactiles or nah, I know 3203 is good

but yes leyo convinced me to buy some t1s from divinkeys

[tight pulsar]

sure just don’t drown it in lube

[tiny monolith]

That was the only one in stock 😳 hopefully I got the right one

[daring zenith]

fair

[queen sigil]

3203 is thinner then 04 iirc

[wise token]

yeah

ur not gonna die if you use a thicker lube with tactiles it's just harder to lube consistently than thinner lube

[sharp kindle]

i used 205g0 on my cherry browns and now theyre even more linear

[wise token]

yeah that too

[tiny monolith]

Is it possible to lube a switch with different lube once lubed before?

[daring zenith]

Pretty sure you're supposed to clean off the previous lube

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[daring zenith]

That reminds me, what are you supposed to use to clean off lube, just wipe it off or use isopropyl alcohol?

[tight pulsar]

you can just wipe it off

[tiny monolith]

I thought it’s super sticky

Says it won’t come off with soap and water

Just wipe it dry?

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[woven garden]

are any of the final mouses good?

[sharp kindle]

[sly warren]

No.

They are memes

[woven garden]

ok

[sly warren]

If you want a good mouse that fits your hand, I'd go to www.rocketjumpninja.com and measure your hand and use the mouse finder.

[digital walrus]

does anyone know a good 60% keyboard under $40?

[queen sigil]

not many good things around that price

[wanton burrow]

Geek GK61
Gamakay MK61
Royal Kludge RK61
Redragon K530 Draconic

Not that great but it's around or lower than $50 and is 60%

gonna tell u rumi 61 and tecware b68 but rumi61 is only available in the philippines and b68 is always oos rn (prolly gonna go up to $65 coz of slow production and rising popularity of the brand)

[digital walrus]

thank you

[wise token]

https://youtu.be/kxT1ja8OWRY?t=581

[sly warren]

Man, I wish someone made a legit Wireless Buckling Spring keyboard...

[queen sigil]

bucking springs kinda suck

[small nimbus]

my qc 35s are starting to tilt me bad and I wanna get xm4s

is there any estimation if Sony is gonna release xm5s soon or bose w/ a new qc?

[timber ridge]

theyre dropping new in ear stuff but no news on headphones so far

but my guess would be kinda soon ish

[small nimbus]

i think i will just xm4 now then if there's no concrete estimates

[timber ridge]

aev finally retiring the qc35s

insane

[bronze mural]

what's wrong with the qc35?

[small nimbus]

i have been using it since they came out

literally bought it on release even though i was travelling in europe at the time

[bronze mural]

the anc nerf?

[small nimbus]

been wearing them daily pretty much ever since? keep having problems w/ the ear pads ever since a trip to cuba last december

[bronze mural]

oh

[small nimbus]

replaced them 2x just not in the mood

they are great but i wanna wear something new

[bronze mural]

the pads are starting to crack on mine

[small nimbus]

the pads are easy to replace i think mine got cucked from like intense heat/humidity from cuba bc i was like

in the sun for 12 hrs w/ them i literally couldn't touch my headphones because they got so hot

[bronze mural]

yeah they aren't the most breathable headphones

[small nimbus]

just order from bose/amazon and some alcohol swabs the pad replacement is easy im just tired of these i guess i've been with them too long

and people have good reviews about xm4 so why not

[bronze mural]

are the bose 700 a no go?

[small nimbus]

i just dont wanna buy the xm4 and have the xm5 or a new QC come out like a month later

oh ya the bose 700 hard no

yikers

[bronze mural]

I really don't like the design of the 700

[small nimbus]

they probably sound better but dear lord the design

cy@

[bronze mural]

why did they do that lol

[small nimbus]

its so bad

my battery is also getting weaker considering i've been using it daily for years

it can still last 2days 2.5 days but

fresh batteries would be nice

[bronze mural]

makes sense

that's what I don't like about non user replaceable batteries

[small nimbus]

xm4s have way better wraps too

qc15s had rerplaceable batteries but like regular batteries

[bronze mural]

either buying batteries every few weeks or having a battery that you can charge over and over again but degrading over time

a real hard decisions

[small nimbus]

such is life

xm5s soon hopefully or new qcs

[bronze mural]

I just iems now when I go outside

[small nimbus]

that would be nice but

i live for anc

[timber ridge]

anc iems

[small nimbus]

i wish

[bronze mural]

sony has some

the wf1000xm3

[timber ridge]

newerr ones are dropping soon

[swift lantern]

wasn't one of those wfxms the ones with a cursed curve

[timber ridge]

not sure

[bronze mural]

like sound signature wise?

[swift lantern]

like the actual graph

[timber ridge]

not sure about sound sig but anc is good

[bronze mural]

I like the wf1000xm3

[queen sigil]

wow sassy spamming reactions on my message

hey buckling spring is a membrane with extra steps

[sly warren]

ANC IEMs aren't even that hard to get. You have Airpods Pros, Galaxy Buds Pro, Sony's WF1000XM3's (With the WF1000XM4's launching soon-ish)

[low stream]

alt time

[sly warren]

Well, now in my keyboard search I've kinda come full circle. My next board is gonna be a Keychron K6 with Gat Reds. I'll foam mod and lube the switches and stabs after a few months of use.

[wanton burrow]

any $50 mkb that's more than 60% and has non-clicky option?

[sly warren]

Lolno

Ok, you might get a TKL, but it's gonna be Clicky switches.

[wanton burrow]

ok wait

ok i think tecware phantom has a non clicky option

tho outemu

$40

[west hornet]

new tidal ui UwU

[sly warren]

Who uses Tidal? At that point just get your own FLACs

[wanton burrow]

in case she'll want to change out switches i'll see if all outemu-manufactured switches fit on outemu hotswap sockets

or else i'll need to remove the sockets (if it's even possible) and change it to a millmax socket

[sly warren]

Socket removal as far as I know isn't possible

And Otemu Switches that are Hotswap are not Cherry compatible

[wanton burrow]

yep

ok ok

but soldered switches could have hotswap sockets, no?

[wanton burrow]

[sly warren]

I wouldn't do anything as drastic as that.

[west hornet]

it was cheap tidal, expires soon tho. i still use my local files more

[sly warren]

Sounds like a recipe for a broken keyboard

[wanton burrow]

idk bout socket desoldering guides there but 1000% there's a good millmax socket soldering guide out there

[sly warren]

Still, I wouldn't do it. Sounds like a recipe for a broken keyboard

[swift lantern]

$70 with extras is more than fair my dude

[tight pulsar]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GAF-Caps-Trash-Panda-II-MX-OGTP-Archive-/133701246886?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

[queen sigil]

ah yes gaf

[lavish cosmos]

Good mechanical keyboards at around 100$?

[queen sigil]

depends what you call good

[lavish cosmos]

i dont realy know which switches are good and all of that so i guess good overall keyboard and rgb will be nice

[daring zenith]

lmfao

@queen sigil looks like I got the lubing station thing shipped to the wrong place, so I'm going to have to use t1's without lube at first

[queen sigil]

u dont need a lube station

just get like 3 bowls

[daring zenith]

noo

the point was the switch opener and the brush that it came with

[queen sigil]

bruh those are like the cheapest parts

[daring zenith]

ye

I mean, I could waste some money and buy another one >:D

but waste bad

[wise token]

how does it get shipped to the wrong address

[queen sigil]

yeah its amazon

[daring zenith]

Shipped to school address

[queen sigil]

LOL

[daring zenith]

so uh

yay

[queen sigil]

someone rando is getting a free lube kit

[daring zenith]

Nah, it's shipped to me, just to my school's post office

[sly warren]

Lol

Wait... Am I older than Mr1111?

Cause you just said School. Which to me implies College.

And I'm already done with College.

[daring zenith]

You're probably older

[sly warren]

I'm 22.

[daring zenith]

Well, not probably, definitely

[sly warren]

Lol

[west hornet]

oldies

im still in elem

[little crater]

imagine being 22 oof

im getting there soon myself tho

[tight pulsar]

ghost is 8

[gloomy berry]

[west hornet]

yes i turn 9 next week dw

[little crater]

yee ghosty cool

[daring zenith]

yee

[calm cobalt]

With so many gaming mouse pads out there. Any recommendations on a budget one? Im from Canada btw

[daring zenith]

Steelseries qck mat should be decent

[gloomy berry]

I have

I like

[daring zenith]

I soon have

[gloomy berry]

I throw mine in the sink with some laundry detergent to wash it, works well

Anything out there comparable to or better than the ModMic? not interested in a boom mic setup. SOmething I can add to my AKG's

[sly warren]

Do you want Speed or Control?

[calm cobalt]

Control

[sly warren]

QCK and keep it clean

[sly warren]

Just buy a cheap Lav mic and use RTX Voice.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016C4ZG74?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[sharp kindle]

Still not worth it

[queen sigil]

[tall siren]

https://www.staples.com/Staples-Hyken-Technical-Mesh-Task-Chair-Black/product_990119 I wonder if this is actually worth it. Looks solid and has a good rating.

There is also this chair at costco tho for $40 less and also a good rating. https://www.costco.com/bayside-furnishings-metrex-iv-mesh-office-chair.product.100522611.html

[sly warren]

I hear it's good. (The Hyken Mesh)

[tall siren]

Ok

Maybe I'll get that

[daring zenith]

this is a lot more expensive but gud rating from GN
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CC1DZYF

oof it went up even more than last time

[tall siren]

Also my room is carpeted so anything I should get for that?

[sly warren]

Yes, a mat

For some ungodly reason the Amazon app and the Reddit app I use are just not working.

[wanton burrow]

any mod wanna pin this spreadsheet?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0

nachos not online yet

[queen sigil]

i mean is it really needed

people rarely need it

[tall siren]

Do you have any recommendations? I could link the desk I bought (will be delivered March 26th-March 30th).

[wise token]

owo

[daring zenith]

uhhhhhhhh

@tight pulsar why is that

why

[wise token]

what

[daring zenith]

it's just

that white light

it hurts my eyes

[wise token]

too bad

[daring zenith]

isn't the point of that keeb to look old

and not be rgb

keycap

[wise token]

okay first its not designed to be old it is old

[daring zenith]

:P

[wise token]

and second thats an indicator led not rgb

[daring zenith]

:P

[wise token]

there does that fit your weak eyes better

[daring zenith]

ah yes thank you very much

I like that keeb now

[wise token]

i'd kill for a 356cl like that board

[sly warren]

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=carpet+chair+mat&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 Just get one that has the little pins on it so that it gives the chair a hard surface to roll on instead of getting caught on the carpet.

[tall siren]

kk

[sharp kindle]

@queen sigil GMMK Pro reviews come out tomorrow

1030 CT

we know taeha, apiary, alexotos, and badseed have one

jsut an fyi

[queen sigil]

wow they didnt just send it to like the bad youtubers

like kristopher

and that other person who does like peripheral vids

[sharp kindle]

his first vid was a mess

abt keyboards

now hes decent but still kind of crap

[queen sigil]

beast troll minecraft got me into keyboards

and he built a sat75 like a week ago

wwait probs a month ago now

[sharp kindle]

damn

[sharp kindle]

time flies in lockdown

[timber ridge]

forgot to show this

[twilit socket]

Thought it was Russian for a minute

[wanton burrow]

How much krytox 205g0 do u need for full size keyboard + stabs?

[wispy pelican]

not much

i got 5ml and i have a 60% but i still have enough left for another keyboard

i bought it from novelkeys bc it was the cheapest

[wanton burrow]

🙂

damn

it's from one of the reviews from the shop (not mine but ok) said it's great for its price of $30

[last plinth]

bruh

how often should i wash my qck

[timber ridge]

depends how dirty u are

[queen sigil]

what

wdym reviews from the shop

[last plinth]

room is p dusty

[wanton burrow]

i mean at the shop. from the customers

[queen sigil]

are you talking about the keycaps or what

[wanton burrow]

keycaps ofc

am looking on the reviews as some are expensive but poop qual lol

that one seems to be good tho

[queen sigil]

he back from robbing glorious

[tight pulsar]

basically the board is what i expected

[queen sigil]

haven''t watched it yet

[queen sigil]

HAHAHAHA he said GOAT stabs bad

i mean not bad

but not good

yeah ok

its just a really plain sounding keyboard

[timber ridge]

it's not bad or really good

[queen sigil]

yeah

But i mean you could probs just buy like 2 sets of durock stabs if ur still gonna get it

one for ur kbd67

[timber ridge]

I don't think ima get it

or keep it at least

I can prob resell for a but over retail

[tight pulsar]

v2 ce for 6800 on mm

[queen sigil]

oh god nvm they did send it to him

[timber ridge]

any cool kits coming out ?

[sly warren]

I honestly don't trust reviewers anymore.

Well, ok. I trust ONE reviewer. Crinacle.

[tight pulsar]

do you trust me

[gleaming pond]

Nachos easily most trustable source

[queen sigil]

glarses comparing GOAT stabs to cheap palte mount stabs

[charred rapids]

Tempted but I want to wait for Satisfaction

[timber ridge]

nachos knows too much

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

they needa drop more wkl kits

[queen sigil]

@timber ridge did u end up getting a KBDfans giftcard

or did u get ur SA keycaps

[timber ridge]

neither

waiting a bit b4 I ask

[queen sigil]

when are they shipping

[timber ridge]

I'll give it til the end of this month

[queen sigil]

that was a while ago

[timber ridge]

adam said most of them got sent during the 10th of this month

around that time

[queen sigil]

So if they ship it you're just gonna take the keycaps?

[timber ridge]

got no choice but to

prob gonna sell it for cheap bc I do not want sa keycaps lol

[queen sigil]

I mean the MSRP is like 80$

thats alot of keys

[timber ridge]

I think

[queen sigil]

I might get geekark BOW accents

[timber ridge]

not planning to make profit

[queen sigil]

Hey if you aint tryna make money off it i'll take them

[timber ridge]

aren't you in cali too

[queen sigil]

yea

[timber ridge]

what city ?

[queen sigil]

kinda close to sacramento

[timber ridge]

same lol

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

im like 45 min away or so

with no traffic

[queen sigil]

i thought u were like near the bay area

im like 30 or so min away from sac

according to google maps

[timber ridge]

nope

I use to live in sf

I'm like southwest from sac

[queen sigil]

oh im like east

[timber ridge]

ur prob super close to me lol

u in Santa Rosa or some ?

[queen sigil]

lol no

im east of sacramento

[timber ridge]

ooo east

so like rancho cordova

[queen sigil]

yeah

[timber ridge]

ggs

I'll prob sell the kit for like 60-70

• shipping

[sharp kindle]

that beanie really accentuates his ears

[queen sigil]

lol

[timber ridge]

his review seemed like glorious gave him a script

it was so boring

[queen sigil]

who

taeha?

[timber ridge]

yea

[queen sigil]

yeah true

man said more on keychron than the gmmk pro

[sly warren]

Hmmmmmm

[timber ridge]

some glorious mod pointed it out but you can't really compare the two

[sly warren]

More credence to the "Reviewers shouldn't be trusted" mantra

[timber ridge]

they target 2 different price brackets

[queen sigil]

compare what two

[timber ridge]

gmmk pro and keychron

[sharp kindle]

90 prebuilt - 170 barebones

[timber ridge]

yea empress mentioned it and I was like bruh

a full keychron build can cost as much as a gmmk pro kit alone

[sly warren]

Yeah, I'm gonna get a Hotswap K6 and get Gat Reds to start, and probably lube them later.

If I like it, I'll get Gat Blacks (I had them with a GMMK) and lube those.

I just have no real use for a fully wired keyboard anymore

[queen sigil]

so much for needing a tkl/75%

[timber ridge]

still getting a 75%

planning on picking up the id80v2

[queen sigil]

not u

[tight pulsar]

tldr if you want a 75 its okay

if not just get a 65/60 for cheaper and/or better

[timber ridge]

I use to be a fan of rotaries on a keyboard but now I have no use for it

[queen sigil]

i just like how they look

[sly warren]

Well, I sat down and thought about how much I actually use the F-Keys

And, I use them, but I think I can live with them on a function layer.

[queen sigil]

unless you use multiple at once or u use them with number you dont need them

[sly warren]

Yeah, and I thought about the Tactile vs Linear, and I bottom out so much already, and I've used Reds before and been ok with them, that I'll try A. Lubing them and B. Foam Modding the K6

It won't be perfect, but I won't need to sell a kidney to get a decent keyboard.

And the K6 isn't as tall as the K2

[tight pulsar]

glad to hear you're taking consideration into account and thinking through what you need and want in a board 👍

so many people automatically dismiss something because it doesn't immediately fit all of their requests without putting thought into it

[steep pelican]

Apparently I have very large hands

20 cm length 11 cm width

[sly warren]

Yeah, that's pretty large.

I'm about average 18.5 x 9.5

[wanton burrow]

is this worthy to invest on? $121

gonna give it to pc so console incompatibility isn't an issue

[queen sigil]

mfs in the nzxt server

also people in there got mad at me because I said GOAT stabs are bad

[wanton burrow]

when someone already have a preference and still ask a less specific question:

[sly warren]

That seems like it's gonna be a low quality fight stick. Most good ones are around 200 or so.

[sharp kindle]

lmao

[royal sandal]

Cherry switches are coming to laptops

Starting with new Alienware laptops

[tight pulsar]

yes

[daring zenith]

low profile bois

[snow briar]

Anyone have any drawing tablet suggestions? I’ve used a really crappy Wacom starter one before... hoping for something a bit better. (Was basically a textured touch pad)

[echo widget]

whats a good gamer chair for around 100-75

USD

[royal sandal]

Any actual chair that is ergonomic and not uncomfortable to sit in

[wanton burrow]

a comfortable ergonomic chair that has nice building quality. ergonomic chair > any leather, expensive, gamer chair out there

check reviews from reddit, the customer reviews, or on youtube

[sly warren]

You're not really going to get a good office chair for less than about $150. Gamer Chairs are a misnomer and are almost always objectively worse than a good office chair with proper ergonomics. The only real exception is the $1,500 Logitech G chair that's basically a re-color of an already good ergonomic chair.

https://store.hermanmiller.com/gaming/herman-miller-x-logitech-g-embody-gaming-chair/2517590.html?lang=en_US This is actually CHEAPER than a normal Herman Miller Embody.

The Herman Miller x Logitech G stuff is, actually quite reasonably priced.

[wanton burrow]

wow, that'd fit the budget

[sly warren]

I know it wont, I'm just trying to inform them about how MOST "gamer chairs" are really poorly made, and then also using the only exception as an example of a GOOD chair.

[royal sandal]

question for peripherals chat

maybe you guys know this one

how do I make a website use OBS Virtualcam instead of my USB webcam

[queen sigil]

randomfrankp sounds so excited about 50$ poop glorious keycaps

cRaZy gOoD fOr a KeYcAp SeT

he's comparing them to GMK sets

WTF

BRASS PLATES ARE 50$

They sell GOAT stabs separately

10$ for a brush

why

and 35$ for a lube station

this is so bad

but I mean it looks good if that's a requirment you need for some reason

Ofc they send all this stuff to randomfrankP because he'll just say everything is good value and everything is amazing

[daring zenith]

I mean, from what GN said about Herman Miller, it's horribly overpriced without much gain but it has a crap ton of adjustment options. With the price in mind, and other options like say a ergo chair 2, I wouldn't call that reasonably priced. Of course it's a good example that decent ones exist, that just doesn't make much sense at the price.

[tight pulsar]

why would you want a brass plate in the first place

the tofu still reigns supreme as the best alu board

[snow briar]

just go to office liquidations if there's any near you get one of those SICK 10 year warranty aeron chairs for like 100$

[daring zenith]

Yes, that's a great option, but the one he linked was 1500$ straight from Herman Miller

[steep pelican]

If there’s a setting to change it the virtual cam should show up there

[royal sandal]

i fixed it

[sly warren]

I've literally never seen an Aeron go for less than $300.

[snow briar]

sounds about right. was just over exaggerating

[sly warren]

I'd rather just buy a new one at that point.

[snow briar]

for a grand off?

[sly warren]

I mean, if I buy the chair myself, I KNOW I have the warranty.

[snow briar]

i mean its a super quality chair, there isnt much u can do to mess it up, ive had mine for 2 years now with no noticeable issues secondhand

[calm cobalt]

does anyone know where i can find mpc450

[queen sigil]

Just look it up

[tight pulsar]

i must say the legends and colors for glorious's keycaps look absolutely terrible imo

[queen sigil]

yea

its literally like any generic gamer keycap

do you put ur middle finger for right click

like for gaming

because i dont know if thats normal

[coral temple]

has any1 owned the redragon k552? if so is it good for $35

[tight pulsar]

yeah middle finger for right click is normal

[queen sigil]

well i dont

[queen sigil]

yes

[coral temple]

ok thx

is it weird having ur index on left click thumb and pinky on sides ring on right click and middle on scroll?

[cobalt nova]

i do that

it's not weird

[queen sigil]

left index on left click?

[coral temple]

index on left

[queen sigil]

yeah I mean that's what ur supposed to

what else would you click with

[coral temple]

ok i was just wondering cus sum ppl put middle and ring on right

[glad yarrow]

I pick my pointer finger up from left click and use the scroll wheel

And middle finger on right click

[glad hound]

about how much does each milky yellow switch cost?

[echo widget]

whats a good mouse?

like 50-75 USD

[tight pulsar]

18-30¢

[glad hound]

ty definitely gonna buy some soon

[sharp kindle]

just o ring mount it

[sharp kindle]

they sent stuff to other reviews too wtf

all the other reviewers got all the accessories

[queen sigil]

random frankp was the only one who mentioned the accessories like keycaps

out of the people i watched

[sharp kindle]

all of the reviewers got the same stuff

i think

badseed is making a seperate vid on accessories

[queen sigil]

I mean none of their accessories look like its worth to buy driectly from them

[tight pulsar]

okay so here it is

nachos very scientific gmmk pro review based on not my reviews
pros - it's not super expensive

• it has qmk support and supposed to have via support later
• they at least somewhat looked at the hobbyist community and based their design around it (things like the pcb and all of the features)
• supports pcb mount stabs
• supports 5 pin switches
• has south facing switch cutouts
• has lots of customization with other products they sell

cons - the sticker on the back sucks

• the customization isn't the best because most of their prices for other parts are expensive
  -? the stabilizers they come with are a little smaller than normal ones so you might need to sand the plate edges to use aftermarket ones
• the stabilizers aren't really that great
• the marketing was bad with things like goat stabilizers when they were not good
• doesn't have a great sound signature, just went the route of stuffing it full of foam to make it sound better (am personally very against this)
• very time consuming and annoying to take apart, many screws and over a dozen just holding the plate to the pcb
• very stiff, not necessarily a bad thing, but shows they focused on the trends such as gasket mount and didn't follow the triangle of keyboard design and tried to make it feel and sound good
• focused too much on buzz words and not actual design, would much rather have a good top mount instead of a bad gasket mount
• rgb and the side led bar isn't that great but rgb isn't important anyway

tldr - its decent for the price but not super great in other areas

[coral temple]

ok

[sly warren]

So Say it with me now.... The GMMK Pro is bad!

[queen sigil]

wHAT?

What?

this is about the GMMK pro

[sly warren]

I made a typo.

[queen sigil]

and it's not bad

[sly warren]

If it has more cons than pros, it is bad.

[queen sigil]

except each pro can outweigh multiple cons?

[sly warren]

You didn't even talk about the Rotary Encoder.

And, I'd call it pretty expensive if a barebones board is 1 Hunge.

[queen sigil]

you just don't know that much about custom keyboards

[sly warren]

I know they cost way too much.

Like, if you wanted to compare getting into Headphones vs getting into Keyboards, it's SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive to get into Enthuseast Grade Headphones.

[queen sigil]

yeah that's because "Enthuseast Grade Headphones" are just good headphones

[sly warren]

You realistically only need to buy 2 things. An Apple or Meizu Dongle, and a pair of headphones that are well reviewed by the community. GG you have entered into the audiophile world.

For Keyboards, you have to sign your firstborne child away just to build a half decent board.

Because you have the Case, PCB, Plate, Switches, Caps, Cables, and all of those are stupid expensive (Ok, PCB's are actually fairly cheap)

[tight pulsar]

i could build a $60 board that would be way better than any prebuilt

[sly warren]

Riiiight

[tight pulsar]

you my friend have not been enlightened with taobao

[sly warren]

Sorry, I don't feel like waiting an eternity for my items.

Or 2 eternities if it's Aliexpress

[tight pulsar]

🤷

[queen sigil]

then stop commenting about the hobby

[sly warren]

Then maybe make the hobby cheaper.

Or stop being so snobby.

[wanton burrow]

lol

[queen sigil]

I mean I could make commenta about how you dont need a dac

or good headphones are overpriced

[sly warren]

Yeah, but for 7 to 9 bucks, you have a DAC that about 70% of people won't go beyond.

It's not like an Apple Dongle costs as much as a new set of Keycaps

[queen sigil]

Like why would you pay hundereds of dollars for headphones when you can get airpods

[sly warren]

Uhh, you don't need to spend hundreds of dollars to blow past Airpods quality.

[queen sigil]

They arent collectables or anything

so why buy them

just seems overpriced

[sly warren]

My Tin T2 Plus are 60 bucks and would kick the ass off a pair of Airpods

[queen sigil]

THat's not the point

[sly warren]

That's entirely the point.

[tight pulsar]

i assume you're talking about aluminum cases being overpriced

[queen sigil]

I'm saying they are both hobbies

[sly warren]

Even plastic cases are overpriced.

[queen sigil]

and that hobbies dont always appeal to all people

Just like how I honestly dont give two thoughts into headphones

[sly warren]

It's injection moulded plastic, it's a repeatable process, it shouldn't cost that much to just blow through 1000 units or more for like, 10 bucks.

[wanton burrow]

[queen sigil]

God you remind me of that one person who kept complaining about how GPUs are overpriced and that they should cost the amount of the raw materials

Again, someone who knows nothing about the hobby, shouldn't complain about it

[tight pulsar]

the price does not come from how much the raw material costs, it comes from how much the injection mold machine is. From what I know a decent one is 10k+

[sly warren]

an injection mould is STAMPED STEEL... It can't cost 10k to make a "decent mould"

[queen sigil]

but it can cost 10k to buy a machine

that does that

[sly warren]

This isn't the industrial revolution era

[wanton burrow]

[queen sigil]

again, you hardly know anything about the hobby besides "hurr durr keyboards expensive"

[sly warren]

Yeah, they are expensive for no reason.

[queen sigil]

These keyboards arent made by massive companies like Razor and Corsair

[wanton burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-time-movie-theater-watching-michael-jackson-gif-3579864

[sly warren]

Switches? Eh, ok they have a lot of tiny parts, that can get expensive to machine/mould.

[queen sigil]

They're expensive because developing a keyboard and all the machinery to do so is expensive

[sly warren]

Understandable that switches can cost a lot.

[tight pulsar]

switches are quite literally the cheapest part of a build

[sly warren]

The PCB? Those are dirt cheap to make, I could probably have a company hammer out like, 100 PCB's for 50 bucks or so.

[queen sigil]

I mean if you wanna buy a machine that can injection mold, sell maybe a thousand peices and expect a profit selling stuff for 10$

[tight pulsar]

and they're made by large companies that can mass order things for cheaper parts for the machines

[queen sigil]

im sorry but you need to wake up

[sharp kindle]

only plate problems are on brass

[sly warren]

Plate? Stamped (Insert Metal Here), or if you are real fancy it's CNC'd. ~20 bucks at most

[queen sigil]

And how much does a good CNC machine cost?

[sly warren]

Doesn't have to be a GOOD CNC machine

It just has to be A CNC machine

[wanton burrow]

lmao

[sly warren]

You can always file away any imperfections.

[sharp kindle]

bruh

[queen sigil]

and filing takes man power

[wanton burrow]

then that still add to the cost

[queen sigil]

and man power is expensive

[wanton burrow]

more man power = more expensive

[sly warren]

These items are all made in CHINA.

[tight pulsar]

molds are not cheap

[sly warren]

Where manpower is the cheapest.

[wanton burrow]

just like how carbon fiber stuff is made by hand so they're so expensive

[sly warren]

I mean, Carbon Fiber is an exotic material regardless.

I wouldn't expect Carbon Fiber ANYTHING to be cheap ever.

[queen sigil]

I mean I still don't think you know how expensive these things are

Do you knot know how much a machine for injection molding is?

[sly warren]

Yeah, I don't understand it because it's little squares of plastic and big chunks of pressed steel moulded to fit our hands.

[queen sigil]

If you want a cheap case then you can get them

[sly warren]

It shouldn't be 300+ dollars for a "good" build.

[queen sigil]

wow look its 15$

[queen sigil]

and it isnt?

What?

[tight pulsar]

hey no my taobao tkl is $12 and has a case and pcb

[sly warren]

That's what you people keep throwing at me.

[queen sigil]

thats because ur talkin about how you want "eNdGaMe"

and u getting u4t's like you actually care about how its gonna feel

[sly warren]

That's what EVERY keyboard guy has said is "You're using this switch? Eww, use X switch that costs like 332140 more dollars"

[queen sigil]

But if you don't care about how they feel then you can build a keyboard for like 40$

[tight pulsar]

behold the glorious $12 kit

[sly warren]

Or, "your using that PCB? It's hot garbage, use this one that's another 2123125345 dollars"

[queen sigil]

Yeah that's because they have more features that someone like you wouldn't care about

[sly warren]

But I DO care about how it feels somewhat. But apparently all of the prebuilt boards are "bad" and nobody has a REAL reason why they are "bad"

[queen sigil]

And i'd like to see what "keyboard people" you talk to

[sly warren]

They just state "things and stuff" about why the are bad.

Literally anyone on the MechKeys discord

[tight pulsar]

try the #kustoms channel

[sly warren]

I mean, I'm already at this point resigning myself to getting a K6 with Gat Reds

Because anything else with a reasonable feature set just doesn't exist.

[queen sigil]

plus it's because those people in the discord probs care more about keyboards than you

[sly warren]

Apparently nobody cares about Wireless keyboard functionality.

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[sly warren]

Something I use on a daily basis.

[queen sigil]

Yeah people would rather have QMK and VIA

[sly warren]

For what purpose? Just use AutoHotKey for key remapping

It's UNIVERSAL!

[sharp kindle]

we want our coiled cables lmfao

[sly warren]

It works on LITERALLY EVERYTHING

[tight pulsar]

working on everything and working well do not mean the same things

[sly warren]

AutoHotKey works perfectly fine.

[queen sigil]

I mean I could say you can just get a bluetooth dongle

itll work

[tight pulsar]

1. they have bad construction
2. the pcb's are not well designed, many don't have good software support
3. they severely limit upgradability
4. they focus on the wrong parts such as rgb and not how it actually feels to use
5. they use cheap parts and overprice them

[sly warren]

And then have to figure out how to power the board?

[queen sigil]

bro if you want the advice you crave

then go ask in any generic gaming server

[sly warren]

Eww, no.

I'm not a generic gamer.

I have some shred of dignity.

[queen sigil]

Bruh you cant talk about me being snobby

you literally scoffed at browns ye you haven't even tried anything better

[sly warren]

Because I know for a fact that Browns are garbage.

[queen sigil]

Whilst you also scoffed at the kbd67 yet you haven't typed on anything besides cheap tray mount gaming keyboards

[sly warren]

Because it costs a firstborn child to build with one

[queen sigil]

kbd67+ switches + keycaps = 150$

[sharp kindle]

a kbd67lite is 110

[queen sigil]

[sharp kindle]

tf

135 for bt i think

[sly warren]

110 for JUST THE BOARD

No Battery for the Bluetooth version also.

[sharp kindle]

🗿

[sly warren]

Gotta source your own battery

[queen sigil]

You don't care about how a keyboard feels if you ignore the kbd67

[sharp kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-gif-19334424

[queen sigil]

so you shouldnt care about getting browns

[sly warren]

No, I do care, you people are just uber picky.

[sharp kindle]

what

says you LMAO

[queen sigil]

you just have no clue what you are talking about

[sly warren]

Like, nobody is quantifying the improved feel

There's no objective proof it feels better.

[queen sigil]

yet choose to think that you know how everything is

[queen sigil]

And there's no proof browns feel bad

[sly warren]

Yes there is.

[queen sigil]

By whom

[sly warren]

Literally ask any keyboard enthuseast.

[queen sigil]

The same people you complain about for recommending you all the expensive stuff?

[sly warren]

Not just them.

[queen sigil]

Then show me someone who doesn't know anything about mechanical keyboards say they are bad

[sly warren]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[queen sigil]

And the reason everybody says that is because it's a meme

[sly warren]

Yeah, well Keycap pricing is a meme.

[wanton burrow]

[neon quartz]

Wangson#2343 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sly warren]

60+ USD for plastic squares and rectangles?

[queen sigil]

and at that its basically the most overused joke in the keyboard community

[sharp kindle]

omg browns arent actually a crappy switch

[sly warren]

Yeah, I'm noping right TF out

[sweet ore]

Anyone get the feeling this guy just wants to argue?

[queen sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-talk-gif-5290288

[sly warren]

No, I don't "just" want to argue

[wanton burrow]

$30 could be great

[sharp kindle]

i thought he was trolling at first

LMAO

[sharp kindle]

cap

[queen sigil]

God I haven't used that gif since cntrl needed help

[tight pulsar]

here is a great read if you think that keycaps are overpriced and cost $4 to make https://matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/

[sharp kindle]

just because some people dislike browns, doesnt mean theyre bad

pewters are basically upgraded mx browns

[sly warren]

It's just that nobody is wanting to give me a reasonable answer, or something that is reasonably priced that fits in that category of "good"

And fits my rough needs.

[tight pulsar]

it explains the reality of making keycaps and how much work and cost goes into it

[queen sigil]

It's more just people who aren't giving you the awnswer you want

[sharp kindle]

i feel like youre gonna be the guy that follows the herd so im gonna throw the fact that taeha likes mx browns out there

[sly warren]

Like, it can't be so impossible for someone to make a reasonably priced Bluetooth capable board WITH A BATTERY that "doesn't suck like a Keychron"

Because otherwise I have no choice but to buy a Keychron.

[queen sigil]

OKay im gonna make a comparison maybe you can understand

[sly warren]

Because it's actually reasonably priced at 79.00 USD for The Board, The Battery, The Switches, AND the Caps all in one.

[sharp kindle]

time to ooga booga dumb it down for him

[sweet ore]

I'm not hardcore enough to want to bother getting into the deep end of keyboards. I bought one last year I'm relatively happy with and feels good to me. (Bought in anticipation of the new desktop build that is still in limbo because of the current crappy supply situation.)

[queen sigil]

Asking for a Cheap BT 75% keyboard that feels and sounds good is like asking for a cheap wireless gaming headset that has amazing sound quality and an amazing mic

[sly warren]

No it isn't!

[sharp kindle]

as much as i like keychron, the keycaps are actually horrible, the alu frame is basically a scam, the board is meh, and the switch options are just generic gateron

[sharp kindle]

then what is it

[queen sigil]

Enthusiast grade bluetooth keyboards dont exist

at least for your standards

[wanton burrow]

:me buying some $30 keycaps to replace K6's stock caps

[sly warren]

If Keychron can make the PCB at mass it shouldn't be impossible to make one with an upgraded case and Gasket Mount for like, 110 for EVERYTHING (Switches, PCB, Batt, Case, Caps)

[sharp kindle]

because no enthusiasts care abt bt

[sharp kindle]

at mass is the keyword

[sly warren]

And?

[neon quartz]

Wangson#2343 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[queen sigil]

Gasket mounted keyboards are alot harder to make than ur traymount keyboards

[sly warren]

Why can't we just take the Keychron PCB and put it in a "better case"

[sharp kindle]

godammit

[queen sigil]

Because keychron PCBs don't have any compatability

[sharp kindle]

go do that heck idc

[queen sigil]

to reduce cost

and increase simplicity

[sly warren]

I don't NEED compatibility, I just need it to be a normal QWERTY keyboard.

[sharp kindle]

try to put a square peg into a circular hole

[sly warren]

If I need special hotkeys then I'll use AHK

Because it's orders of magnitude easier to use and is more robust than QMK ever could be (I've seen QMK firmware, it's a hot mess)

[wanton burrow]

this argument doesn't flow really well

kinda goes into different directions lol

[sharp kindle]

@sly warren go put a keychron pcb into a sat75 case

heck idc

[queen sigil]

Tryna help him understand but he just doesn't get it

and refuses to understand

[wanton burrow]

so would a modded k6 sound great then? (lubed, new caps, gonna test some switches first before buying new ones)

[queen sigil]

Because i'd say
A good feeling and sounding wireless keyboard is just as hard to find as a good cheap wireless headset

[sharp kindle]

that should sound and feel ok

get new stabs for sure

[queen sigil]

because they dont exist

[sharp kindle]

or at least try to mod the stabs

also case foam

[queen sigil]

yeah for keychron keyboards they arnet the best

[wanton burrow]

yea foam mod and clip stab too ig

[sharp kindle]

also lube stabs

or even holee mod

[wanton burrow]

yea

[queen sigil]

id just get a c1, maybe fill it with sillicon, then mod the stabs and replace keycaps

and mod switches

[wanton burrow]

hmmmm

so c1 then build a 65% cheap custom one? just ike 65% the most mainly coz of aesthetic

[queen sigil]

I mean if u want a 65% i'd just save up for an entry custom keeb

[sharp kindle]

^

[wanton burrow]

hmm then that's settled 🙂

[queen sigil]

esp if u want it to feel and sound good

[sharp kindle]

@queen sigil has the portico shipped yet?

[queen sigil]

i don't think so

@wraith roost has ur portico been shipped

[sharp kindle]

oof

[wraith roost]

No

[queen sigil]

i have 6 days to make up my mind about those geekark BOW accents

[wraith roost]

I haven’t ordered my lube stuff yet either

[queen sigil]

Thinking about sea salt blue

[sharp kindle]

https://www.twitch.tv/apiarykeyboards

apiary building a pro tonight

[queen sigil]

ooh the portico has a sillicon dampener on the case

and uses normal gaskets

[tight pulsar]

whoever said qmk was a mess has clearly never seen it work right

[sharp kindle]

i wish i got the ikki

[sharp kindle]

it was Skiptrace

[wraith roost]

Is that good, bad, indifferent?

[queen sigil]

its good

[wraith roost]

[queen sigil]

https://youtu.be/ctTzM-xBjtI?t=924

[wraith roost]

I knew that

[queen sigil]

alot higher pitched than the kbd67

https://youtu.be/I3bch72zNqc?t=18

both of these sound test are nk creams

[sly warren]

I would eventually lube my switches, but not immediately.

I know lubing is an improvement.

[sharp kindle]

why not immediately though?

most switches dont have a break in period

[sly warren]

Because I don't have 4 to 5 hours to dedicate to doing it.