#peripherals-and-displays

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daring zenith
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ah yes giving them a 60,000$ headphones time

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I mean, you could just start off with a UR40+Meizu dongle

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and that'll give you a pretty good experience before making the decision on if you want to invest more on good audio

little crater
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make this dude an offer

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onboard audio will drive these fine

daring zenith
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that should do a good bit better than ur40+meizu

little crater
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itll do everything just as good as those, except music

tight pulsar
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looks decent

daring zenith
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ur40 does feel a bit flimsy

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well quite flimsy

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but it's decent sounding, good compared to other crappy 'gaming' stuff

little crater
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da hecc

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they make a 32 ohm version of these?

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i wonder how they compare to the 80

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i guess on motherboard audio it wouldnt make a difference

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@karmic horizon

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these are new, not used as well

daring zenith
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Well, is it laptop or desktop onboard?

little crater
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i mean, that wouldnt change it much

karmic horizon
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desktop, x570

little crater
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they both crap

karmic horizon
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oh, so i should upgrade

daring zenith
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Since I believe some relatively good chips like alc1200 can be better than others

little crater
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yeah, alc 1220 etc

daring zenith
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x570 boards should be fine

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@karmic horizon Actually, do you believe you can invest 100$ into dac/amp for good audio?

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Zen dac would make everything nice

little crater
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yeah but its just gaming

daring zenith
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I mean, that's what I thought until I heard good audio :P

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It can also just be an investment they can decide to do after they get that dt770

karmic horizon
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yea i can

daring zenith
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dac is nice for everything

little crater
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i went from my bluetooth HD4.50, to my dt 990 pro, to my amiron home. in gaming, legit no major differences

daring zenith
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ofc, but any music...

little crater
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yeah its sounds cleaner

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but theyre just gunshots lol

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and explosions

daring zenith
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hm

karmic horizon
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im just using steel series artics currently

little crater
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positional audio just as good

daring zenith
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actually

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do you think smth like a k371 would have better positional audio or open backs

little crater
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tbh seige sound always broken so its not like i would notice really

daring zenith
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lol

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I like my pc37x in seg

little crater
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new dac or not

gloomy berry
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Agreed

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I had those, they are meh

daring zenith
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I'm debating on whether or not it makes sense for an extra 100$ into dac without any emphasis on music listening

karmic horizon
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i do listen to music, just not all the time. i really enjoy house music and chill rhythms

gloomy berry
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Durock is 67g

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Th eothers are 62-67 otherwise the same

daring zenith
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@gloomy berry ye, I was thinking the other with the red stem with 67g spring but

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gonna see if nachos has any thoughts

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in case the red stem is made by someone other than durock or smth

sly warren
daring zenith
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smh the positional audio is amazing for me

sly warren
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Everything is too close feeling

little crater
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its kinda hard for a headphone to be bad at that

sly warren
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Then your ears must be broke

little crater
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tbh

daring zenith
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my ears might actually be broke

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ngl

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but also

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siege audio is broken so

little crater
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^

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siege audio has never worked

sly warren
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Even in other games I have problems with PC37X positional audio

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UR40's? No problems in Siege

daring zenith
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I never had any issues with it

sly warren
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I can hear everything crystal clear

daring zenith
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hell, I might play some seg with pc37x, then switch to ur40

sly warren
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Porta Pros? Same as UR40

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Do you have dong?

daring zenith
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I have fulla

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soo

sly warren
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Fulla worse than dong

daring zenith
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not in my experience

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dong is crap for audio for me

sly warren
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Apple dong?

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Or Meizu?

daring zenith
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meizu

sly warren
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🤔

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Your ears are definitely broken then.

daring zenith
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again, no bass, and it feels... empty or something

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it's wack

sly warren
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Yeah... that's PC37X experience.

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No Bass

daring zenith
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no no no

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that's my meizu experience

sly warren
daring zenith
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with pc37x and fulla it's great

sly warren
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Then either your Dong is broke, or something else.

tight pulsar
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wow almost like people have different tastes in audio equipment

sly warren
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Because my Meizu Dong gets pretty boomy with my Porta Pros

daring zenith
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Ofc, different ears are different

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but I feel meizu dong bad for bass

west hornet
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Idk if dong would be better than fulla 2 buf idk i only have dongle schiit stack, m2, um2

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

daring zenith
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I have yet to try ur40 in siege for positional audio tho

sly warren
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Schiit Stack > All of those options that you have Ghosty

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Dong good for mobile though.

west hornet
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xD

daring zenith
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@tight pulsar anyways real question is, are those different switches or the same with different colored stem

grand peak
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so question, gk61 or mz60

sly warren
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Why not Keychron?

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Both the GK61 and MZ60 lock you into the weird Gateron Optical ecosystem.

grand peak
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whats so weird with gateron opticals?

sly warren
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You can ONLY use Gateron Opticals on a board built for them.

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You can't use anything else.

grand peak
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well i mean im not going to be changing them at all so not a big deal

sly warren
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Whereas if you get a Keychron K6 Hotswap, you can use basically any switch you want.

daring zenith
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Nachos gone :(
There's also a full Gateron mech version of gk61 iirc

sly warren
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Then don't buy a friggin hotswap board if you ain't gonna swap the switches.

daring zenith
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And also keep in mind price, only keychron C1/c2 close in price

sly warren
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Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron K6 Compact Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. 65% Layout. Wireless or Wired. Users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. 15+ RGB Backlight

grand peak
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im not buyinh it for the hotswap i just want a 60% mechanical keyboard

sly warren
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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Then just buy a Magicforce 68

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Wow, MF68 pricing is weird AF now.

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They used to be like, 40 bucks.

daring zenith
queen sigil
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k6 is basically a 65% gk61

karmic horizon
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alright i bought the dt 770s, you guys sure it will be alright with onboard audio

sly warren
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Ewwwwww

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Why?!?

daring zenith
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what

sly warren
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Good lord, why did you even touch Beyer gear

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Who told this man Beyer was ok?

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I want names

karmic horizon
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sassyfish

sly warren
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@little crater 😠

daring zenith
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afaik it should be basically a k371, except lower impedence?

sly warren
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No.

daring zenith
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or am I just being dumb again

sly warren
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It's a crappier K371

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Treble Spike, Hole in Mids, No Bass: That's basically every Beyer

daring zenith
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ye, need lower impedance to run off onboard

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too lazy to look at response graphs

karmic horizon
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okay so cancel order?

sly warren
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Yes.

karmic horizon
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will do

sly warren
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Let me get you set up real quick for success

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1: Location? We’re not trying to dox you, it’s just that some things are more accessible in some parts of the world than they are elsewhere.
2. Budget? Whatever you’re comfortable with.
3. Do you have any source gear? Owning a competent amp/DAC could mean we recommend better equipment for the price.
4. Where are you going to use these, will it be noisy? Changes what type of gear we can recommend.
5. Previous experience? Could help us find something more suited to your preferences.
6. Main types of music you listen to? Could help us find something more suited to your preferences.

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Answer those 6 questions

daring zenith
queen sigil
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consult nachos

daring zenith
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nachos wouldn't answer :(

queen sigil
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wow

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u in any other servers?

daring zenith
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no

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I think nachos got tired of me asking questions

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@queen sigil no matter what the second one is, most reviews are on the durock t1 that is sold by divinikey, correct?

karmic horizon
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  1. US
  2. None
  3. no, onboard, but can upgrade
  4. in my bedroom, have kids so noise is variant
  5. just play games and occasionally listen to music
  6. chill mix on youtube mostly (if i do)
daring zenith
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Most suggestions made at the start was based off a 150$ given budget btw.

karmic horizon
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yea but later stated i really didnt have one

tight pulsar
daring zenith
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oh alright, answer whenever you're ready

sly warren
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What is your maximum? Like, do you have a max limit of what you are willing to pay?

karmic horizon
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$250

sly warren
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Alright.

daring zenith
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That might be a K371+Zen dac time

sly warren
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Nah

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Zen DAC isn't really worth it.

gloomy berry
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XD

sly warren
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Meizu Dongle at best.

daring zenith
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uh

gloomy berry
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XD

daring zenith
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I think that's one point we disagree heavily on

gloomy berry
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Zen with AKG 371 is perfect in that budget

sly warren
gloomy berry
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AKG 371 still on sale

sly warren
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A feature the Zen DAC doesn't have

daring zenith
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what

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Pretty sure zen dac has input

sly warren
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Nope

little crater
sly warren
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Zen DAC has no 3.5mm mic input

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It also needs a big dingus adapter

little crater
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hes just gaming

gloomy berry
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wat

sly warren
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And they are bad at that too

gloomy berry
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It comes with one LOL

little crater
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he dosent need a ton of fancy audio gear

sly warren
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No, but he can spend less for higher quality than DT 770 Pros

daring zenith
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oh well, they have a yeti either way

gloomy berry
sly warren
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Ah, didn't know that.

little crater
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who said theyre better?

karmic horizon
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i didnt buy the yeti, my wife bought it for my bday

sly warren
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Not the worst mic you could be gifted.

gloomy berry
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Nice!

sly warren
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Do you have a specific type of headphones you prefer?

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Or do you just want raw sound quality and spatial audio?

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Because there are some kickass IEMs in the ~100 dollar range

daring zenith
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IEMs might not be what they want to go into

karmic horizon
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no not really, i had jvc, seinheisers, turtle beaches, steel series

sly warren
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I didn't say brand

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I said TYPE

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There's 4 types of headphones

karmic horizon
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oh, well i cant answer that question correctly

little crater
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bruh, he prolly doesnt know

sly warren
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On-Ear, Over-Ear, In Ear Monitor, and Earbud

karmic horizon
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over ear

sly warren
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Typically we leave out earbuds because they are weird

little crater
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over ear obv

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hes just gaming on a pc

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this isnt complicated

sly warren
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Hey, don't trash on on-ears for gaming

daring zenith
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oh lmao I thought you were asking a open/closed/planar question or something

little crater
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eww

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i thought that as well

sly warren
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Porta Pros are the best gaming headphones sub-50 bucks

little crater
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but

daring zenith
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porta pros are good

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@sly warren can we agree on K371 as a pretty good option for on-ear closed back headphone?

sly warren
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K371's have a weird Bass shelf

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Could interfere with hearing footsteps in games.

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When explosions are going off

gloomy berry
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lol

daring zenith
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I'm reading K361 is more neutral, that's all

karmic horizon
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so these are good with onboard audio

sly warren
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No

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Get dong

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Onboard audio bad

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Dong Cheap and good

daring zenith
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back to ur40+meizu? xD

gloomy berry
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That's all that's ever recommended

daring zenith
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Well, it'll be a good way to tell if they want to invest more or not

sly warren
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I mean, it's A. Cheap B. Excellent and C. Has crazy good positional audio

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Hell, even my KZ ZS10 Pros have good spatial audio out of my Meizu Dong

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I'm actually using them with gaming right now.

karmic horizon
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call me dumb, buts for a phone?

sly warren
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Right now I think i'm going through an IEM phase

daring zenith
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I just don't like how meizu sounds to me

sly warren
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The Meizu Dongle isn't just for a phone

daring zenith
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Meizu can be used for PC, it's just advertised for phone because usb-c

sly warren
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This thing chooches out POWER

karmic horizon
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oh cool

sly warren
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It's capable of driving a select few 600 ohm headphones.

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If you need to, buy a USB-C Female to USB-A Male converter

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It'll work flawlessly

karmic horizon
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if you dont mind could you link me that converter?

karmic horizon
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i dont think i have usb-c port

sly warren
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Pick a color

karmic horizon
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thanks alot guys

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i appreciate it

sly warren
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NP

queen sigil
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no clue what you mean by that

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but divinikey is good

daring zenith
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okai

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I'm doing it then

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Well I can wait for nachos to give me a response

jovial jasper
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what are some good wireless headsets under $150?

sly warren
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Nothing

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Wireless is bad

queen sigil
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I mean the only thing id say would be cloud II wireless

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because I got that recommended

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from people here

modern wyvern
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audio on my gf's oculus is going out so I am also kinda looking for a wireless headset

wanton burrow
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daaaaaaaamn

sly warren
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If Headphone Jack, then you are SOL, if speakers, then just wear IEMs or Headphones.

queen sigil
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I know the quest 2 has an audio jack on the headset

sly warren
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And the Quest 1

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And Rift S

queen sigil
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so just all the newer headsets

sly warren
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And I think the CV1 has one too

queen sigil
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CV1?

sly warren
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The first consumer Rift

queen sigil
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oh

sly warren
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The one with the cameras

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It's called the Rift CV1

queen sigil
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lmao i forgot those existed

sly warren
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Aka, Rift Consumer Version 1

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Ok, the CV1 has no headphone jack.

royal sandal
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I remember the CV1

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I still have mine in the basement somewhere

sly warren
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Rift S definitely has a headphone jack though.

royal sandal
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Antique

queen sigil
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also qhat happened to lili

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i never got a real reason why she got banned

royal sandal
queen sigil
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yes i know that

royal sandal
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Always advertising for her

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Windshields is next I’m sure

sly warren
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???

queen sigil
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so she got banned because lililabs meme

timber ridge
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wait she got banned?

royal sandal
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Yeah

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Word travels slow apparently

timber ridge
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i really havnt been on discord since im not home

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thats really unfortunate tho

royal sandal
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Mhmm

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We’ve been debating petitioning mike

timber ridge
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i vouch for her to come back

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i havent really talked to her recently bc i havent been on pc, is she doing okay?

royal sandal
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That’s a good question

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She hasn’t been on discord since

timber ridge
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hope shes doing okay

royal sandal
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Yeah

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Check DM

queen sigil
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tbh shes a really good techie to have around

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and she cool

royal sandal
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Mhmm

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Snarky and arrogant tho tbh

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But coole

queen sigil
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also she doesnt like newegg

royal sandal
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She likes the server tho

timber ridge
queen sigil
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i mean

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newegg is kinda pointless

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since amazon

royal sandal
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Amazon doesn’t have every tech product tho

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Surprisingly

queen sigil
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and anybody who things newegg>amazon should be put in place

royal sandal
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And sometimes prices are better on Wegg

queen sigil
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plus lots of people complain about wegg return policy

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amazon return policy is insane

royal sandal
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Insane-ly good or bad?

timber ridge
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insanely good

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you can legit return anything within 30 days

daring zenith
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@tight pulsar So, do you know if there's a difference between the T1's that's sold by divinikey and prime keyboards?

sharp kindle
daring zenith
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@sharp kindle dif stem colors

sharp kindle
daring zenith
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I also don't know the full history behind the switches, and there might be different T1s that aren't made by durock

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@sharp kindle divinikeys offers blue stem, 67g. Prime keyboards offer Red stem, 67g/65g/62g, and Gray stem, 67g

sharp kindle
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huh

timber ridge
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i think hes referring to the kbd incident

olive tide
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is the hyperx haste good?

daring zenith
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wack

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nachos no like me

sly warren
tight pulsar
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let me sleep people

sly warren
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Sleep? It's 8:37AM

tight pulsar
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it was 1am when mr1 was asking me questions

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and yes theyre the same @daring zenith

daring zenith
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Much thank

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I will buy soon

split snow
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hello, I am going to be purchasing the GK61, and I was wondering what gateron switch I should get? I want a switch that's quiet but sounds nice

sly warren
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🤔

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If you want quiet, then why TF do you care what it sounds like?

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Sounds like you want polar opposite ideas.

split snow
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smh

sly warren
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Yes, but why care what it sounds like if it's gonna be barely audible in the first place?

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And why are you buying a GK61 in the first place?

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When the Keychron K6 exists.

split snow
sly warren
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

split snow
sly warren
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Then don't buy a clicky switch?

split snow
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you're not getting the point

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I asked a simple questiona

sly warren
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Like, your only option is Linears or Quiet Tactile switches.

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Your question makes no sense though.

split snow
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and instead of helping me, you just keep questioning me

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I already explained it

sly warren
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If the point is not being loud, then that automatically means sound isn't a factor other than "Not Loud"

split snow
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which gateron switch is quiet but doesn't sound bad

sly warren
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None of them "sound bad" if they are quiet.

split snow
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THEY ARENT FULLY SILENCED

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omggg

sly warren
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Are you wearing headphones while you are using them? If yes, you probably CANT HEAR THEM ANYWAY!

split snow
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thank you so much for not helping or answering my question.

sly warren
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And, realistically if you are chasing silence, you want to skip any generic switches.

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Boba U4's are where silence is at.

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Or Zilents (But Zilents are just expensive Boba U4's)

split snow
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I said gaterons

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for the gk61

sly warren
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Did I stutter?

split snow
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not any other switch

sly warren
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None of them.

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All of the Gat switches are fairly noisy, even Reds.

split snow
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but what's the quietest gateron

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omg

sly warren
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None of them.

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And, technically Boba U4's are a gateron switch.

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They just aren't made BY gateron

split snow
sharp kindle
gloomy berry
sharp kindle
sly warren
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Actually, most switches that aren't made by Cherry, Kailh, or Otemu are Gateron, even if not directly made BY Gateron.

sharp kindle
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all bobas are outemu

sly warren
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Wait they are?

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Huh, TIL

sharp kindle
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yep

split snow
sly warren
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I thought they were Gateron clones.

sly warren
sharp kindle
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all gazzew switches are outemu

split snow
sharp kindle
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someone fact check me

sly warren
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I was telling you to skip Gaterons and go for Boba U4's if you are chasing silence.

split snow
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you didn't answer my questions

sly warren
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I did

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You just didn't like my answers.

gloomy berry
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No, you didn't

split snow
gloomy berry
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XD

sly warren
split snow
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sheesh

sly warren
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So, any switch is an option

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(Outside of Matias/ALPS)

sharp kindle
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the k61 is mech hotswap

sly warren
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Uhh, there's a normal Gat Hotswap IIRC

split snow
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jeez

sly warren
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Then why TF are you buying a GK61?

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Don't buy a board to not use a feature it comes with.

split snow
sly warren
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Magicforce 68 says hello

split snow
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I don't care about hot swapping

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I literally don't

sly warren
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Then don't buy a board with hotswap

split snow
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I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT HAD HOTSWAP

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YOU CAN BUY A KEYBOARD TO USE THE KEYBOARD IN GENERAL BUT NOT USE ITS HOTSWAP FEATURE

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jeez

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actually so unhelpful

sly warren
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But then you aren't using all of the features.

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Which then why did you buy the board if not to use all the features.

split snow
gloomy berry
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How bout you let it go. Getting tired of you treating people like crap and posting just to annoy them.

sly warren
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I'm not posting to annoy people.

gloomy berry
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Bet

sharp kindle
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like what are you looking for

sly warren
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Apparently he doesn't want to hotswap to a new switch but he wants silence.

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Which, there's no stock switch on the market that's gonna be quiet.

sharp kindle
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gk61 doesnt have silents as an option

sly warren
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Even reds are fairly loud.

sharp kindle
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youre gonn ahave to swap

split snow
sly warren
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And none of them are quiet

gloomy berry
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Bruh

sharp kindle
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i mean all of them other than blues are bsiaclly the same

split snow
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they all aren't the same loudness

sharp kindle
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other than blues htye kind of are

sly warren
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They actually kinda are.

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Reds and Browns effectively sound the same.

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Blues are just louder.

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Because Clicky

sharp kindle
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@split snow down the line if you want to use the hotswap function you can get ACTUAL silent switches and pop them in

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you dont ahve to but its an option because the gk61 is hotswap

split snow
gloomy berry
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Orings exist also

sharp kindle
sly warren
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Boba U4's are the cheapest good silence focused switch.

sharp kindle
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both are silent

sly warren
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I haven't heard of Silent Alpacas TBH

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Are they tactile?

sharp kindle
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linear

split snow
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skip trace, I just blocked you cause at this point you're not helping me yoire just frustrating me and annoying me. peace out skip

sly warren
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Boooo, Linear...

sharp kindle
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@split snow whats your budget for switches

sly warren
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I literally told you the exact same thing Wangson did.

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

sharp kindle
split snow
sharp kindle
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or clickies

split snow
sharp kindle
split snow
sharp kindle
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iirc

split snow
sharp kindle
split snow
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65 cents?

sharp kindle
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yep

split snow
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how many keys on the gk 61

sharp kindle
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wait nvm

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they might be in budget

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cause you only need 61 switches

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get 70

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45.50 usd

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60 CAD

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and then there's shipping

#

F

split snow
#

where do I get them

sharp kindle
#

you can dm gazzew on reddit

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cause theyre always out of stock

split snow
#

kk

west hornet
#

Linear ftw

sharp kindle
#

+1

daring zenith
elfin wren
#

Anyone know some pudding keycaps that work for the classic Corsair K70 keyboard?

daring zenith
#

iirc Corsair keebs have non-standard bottom row, so need to watch out for that

elfin wren
#

I saw it’s a common issue that the bottom row isn’t usually compatible

elfin wren
#

Yeah I wasn’t the one who bought the set but they didn’t do research

queen sigil
#

also it doesnt say how much 205g0

#

@elfin wren check KPrepublic

elfin wren
#

Thanks

queen sigil
#

IIrc they sell keycap sets for non standard bottom rows

#

but they are like around 40$

daring zenith
#

Apparently this is the size chart for K70

queen sigil
#

okay maybe not

#

thats like reallyt not standard

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I take that back

sharp kindle
#

tf is corsair doing

queen sigil
#

making bad keyboards

sharp kindle
#

u not wrong

daring zenith
#

@queen sigil any thoughts on getting 205g0 (or 3203 with some kind of spring lube, preferably 205g0 because lazy), a switch opener, and a brush? Also, would like a lube station, but not a necessity.

sharp kindle
#

lance got a lube station for cheap that came with brushes and a switch opener

queen sigil
#

lube stations dont help me

#

it didnt help me

#

made it slower

sharp kindle
#

i mean i just lube in batches of 10 when i have time so its a waste of money for me

daring zenith
#

It would be very nice for me not to get lube everywhere

elfin wren
#

We got a Corsair k70 used that still worked great for like half the price

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Only reason we have it

daring zenith
#

I don't really care about easier to lube or anything

queen sigil
daring zenith
#

I don't want lube everywhere

#

I do things even I don't understand

#

for example

#

there's thermal paste on the fins of my d15

#

I don't know when or how it got there

#

it's there

sharp kindle
#

my films never go in right

queen sigil
sharp kindle
queen sigil
#

me when my film falls off when trying to reassemble

#

wait wtf i thought this was general cat

#

chat

sharp kindle
#

🗿

daring zenith
#

well

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keeb talk

#

@queen sigil anyways any ideas on other ways of acquiring those things? Preferably Amazon, because shipping costs

queen sigil
#

uh

daring zenith
#

(Divinikey and primekb both out of 205g0)

queen sigil
#

divinikey

sharp kindle
queen sigil
#

wait for restock

daring zenith
#

ick

queen sigil
daring zenith
#

I'm impatient

sharp kindle
queen sigil
#

divinikey got cheap shippinh

daring zenith
sharp kindle
#

cannonkeys can go suck a fat one

#

20 dollar shipping for a deskmat

queen sigil
#

cough kbdfans

#

woah woah woah

daring zenith
#

nk?

queen sigil
#

deskmat shipping is expensive because they heavuy

#

i paid like 13$ for shipping on my bruhmat

sharp kindle
#

i wish i got the bruhmat

queen sigil
daring zenith
#

Main reason I'm impatient is because I'm only going to be here for the next week or so

#

then I'm going to be gone for a few months

#

:P

queen sigil
#

those keycaps dont last long and dont feel to good

#

but if you like how they look go for it

#

wait nvm dont

#

that's terrible for pudding keycaps

elfin wren
#

It’s the only ones I could find that actually don’t have the weird enter button

split snow
daring zenith
#

hmm

elfin wren
#

And that fit the bottom row

queen sigil
#

just get a nicer keycaps set for like 10$ more

daring zenith
#

its not rgb thooooo

split snow
sharp kindle
queen sigil
#

tru

sharp kindle
#

they might not like it

queen sigil
#

dsa feels kinda weird

sharp kindle
#

@daring zenith

elfin wren
#

Was only looking for pudding keycaps

daring zenith
#

hm

elfin wren
#

Gonna throw the whole keyboard away and find one that works

daring zenith
#

that price+shipping will be interesting

elfin wren
#

I’m joking lmao

sharp kindle
#

its a corsair

elfin wren
#

It’s used actually

#

I might just buy a new one

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My brother bought it

sharp kindle
#

get a keychron

daring zenith
#

@queen sigil Would anything be wrong with buying the kit off amazon? Mostly because Amazon ships relatively fast, and I could just buy the lube again if it comes with knockoff 205g0 or something..?

queen sigil
#

i mean the desc of the product doesnt even say it coems with 205

daring zenith
#

hm

sharp kindle
#

just get the lube from 1up

daring zenith
#

also, I feel like the 1upkeyboard calculator is being dumb, there's no way it's 0$ tax in IL, but anyways

#

11$ seems like a lot

sharp kindle
#

how many ml?

daring zenith
#

3

sharp kindle
#

eh

daring zenith
#

divinikey is 12$ for 5ml

sharp kindle
#

i think its free shipping though

#

idk

daring zenith
#

sad they don't have t1

#

While I want to buy everything from one place, this might be good nuff

split snow
#

@daring zenith dms

daring zenith
#

Other than that, I think I'll bite the bullet on 205g0 from 1up, 90 T1s from divinikeys, and whatever the rest from Amazon

sly warren
#

Ooh, that's a neat station.

#

Hmm

#

Might be worth it to buy that station instead of the individual stuff.

queen sigil
#

i mean brushes are like 1$ and switch openers are like 2$

#

and the stem holder is like maybe 4$

sly warren
#

Not from Amazon

queen sigil
#

but from aliexpress

sly warren
#

Aliexpress shipping takes eons

#

I am already set on buying Boba U4T's which ONLY ARE SOLD THROUGH ALIEXPRESS

daring zenith
#

I'm fine with spending more to save on shipping time if possible

sly warren
#

But, 60 USD for 90 switches is damn near theft

#

I honestly wish I could order JUST the Keychron K2 Hotswap frame.

#

No Switches

#

Just the Board and Keycaps

queen sigil
#

bruh if ur gonna do that might as well get like a kbd67

sly warren
#

And lose wireless functionality?

#

Hell no

daring zenith
#

Okay, I think I'm doing that station then

sly warren
#

This board will be like, my board I use to do EVERYTHING

#

Desktop PC? Wire it up to charge. Home Theatre PC? Wireless to sit on the couch with.

daring zenith
#

oh yea it's BT so no need to put receivers on everything

sly warren
#

Exactly

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And it even supports MacOS

queen sigil
#

why do u need a wireless keyboard exactally

sly warren
#

So if I ever work in a place where they use Macs for some ungodly reason, I can just bring my keeb to work.

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Because it's useful.

queen sigil
#

cough

sly warren
#

Yeah, but i'm spending like 3x the money

#

For not a 3x increase in quality

queen sigil
#

lol yes it is

sly warren
#

No, it isn't.

queen sigil
#

ur getting a keyboard that feels and sounds good

sly warren
#

There is no way the KBD67 is worth triple the cost of a K2 Hotswap

queen sigil
#

lol a kbd67 is a gasket mount

daring zenith
#

Keebs don't scale linearly with price

sly warren
#

And?

queen sigil
#

k2 is a tray mount

sly warren
#

And?

queen sigil
#

it feels garbage

#

and sounds garbage

#

thats why if you are actually into mechanical keyboards you shouldnt get keychron

sly warren
#

I really doubt the sound and feel are going to be triple the cost worth.

queen sigil
#

but if you just like how they look and the layout then you get them

daring zenith
#

kbd67 is probably a step up, and the price reflects that, but the price also reflects the cost of the hobby

queen sigil
#

also keychron keyboards are really tall

#

like

daring zenith
#

isn't there a k2v2

#

or was it k4v2

#

that's thin

queen sigil
#

k2 is really tall

#

I got a k2 hotswap

#

unless your hands are gonna be floating mid air

#

ur gonna need to get one of their wrist wrests

sly warren
#

Also, I don't want a 67, I want the 75%

#

And, my current board is pretty tall

queen sigil
#

just spend money on other stuff before spending money on switches

queen sigil
#

because if ur getting a keychron and you dont want it to be basically every other gaming keyboard

#

bruh then why are you upgrading

#

they like the exact same

sly warren
#

No

tight pulsar
#

vint browns or bust

sly warren
#

This one sucks because the USB Port is broken

queen sigil
sly warren
#

And this isn't Wireless

tight pulsar
#

lame

queen sigil
sly warren
#

No?

queen sigil
#

lol yea

#

they both tray mount

#

with poop stabs

sly warren
#

I'm paying for a significantly better board.

queen sigil
#

no ur not

sly warren
#

Also, this doesn't feel bad.

queen sigil
#

keychrons are all tray mount

tight pulsar
#

also wew used og doubleshot feel so much different than crp

queen sigil
#

really stiff and inconsistant

#

just like that board

sly warren
#

Yeah I am. The Keychron is Wireless and has actual QC

#

There's no real stiffness I can feel in this board.

tight pulsar
#

can you feel any flex

sly warren
#

There's no deck flex.

tight pulsar
#

thats not what i asked

sly warren
#

Yes it is.

queen sigil
#

kbd67 is lightyears better than any traymount

sly warren
#

Yeah, but it's not justifiable for it to be 300+ dollars

tight pulsar
#

my case is a solid piece of metal and has flex it does not have deck flex

sly warren
#

150? I'd buy a KBD75

queen sigil
sly warren
#

Switch Cost + other stuff

queen sigil
#

thats like 200$

#

including switches and keycaps

sly warren
#

My K2 Hotswap total cost will be 186.99

sharp kindle
#

hkgaming keycaps is 40 dollars + any budget switches

queen sigil
#

and that's with what

sly warren
#

And, it's a 75%

sharp kindle
queen sigil
#

getting used to function keys is really easy

#

i mean

sharp kindle
#

youre literally comparing two boards with different form factors what

sly warren
queen sigil
#

getting used to no function keys

tight pulsar
#

kekw who’s buying the utd boards

sharp kindle
#

i would pay the extra 15 dollars for gasket mount

sly warren
#

I already have a Magicforce68 I don't want a tiny board without F Keys

#

I want Bluetooth + 75%

queen sigil
#

yeah that's because its not liek VIA/QMK compatable

tight pulsar
#

just because something is gasket mount does not mean it is good

queen sigil
#

so its gonna be poop

#

when it comes to getting use of function

tight pulsar
#

you can have a good tray mount and a bad gasket mount

sly warren
#

I don't modify my layout.

#

So, I don't need VIA or QMK

queen sigil
#

there's like a certain price point where ur getting the most bang for ur buck

sly warren
#

I just need Bluetooth + 75%

queen sigil
#

and keychron isnt one of those if ur trying to go custom

queen sigil
#

yes

sly warren
#

And the KBD75 has no Bluetooth option

queen sigil
#

5$ is good bang for buch

sly warren
#

So, it's out of the question

queen sigil
#

see where it says bluetooth

sly warren
#

That's a SIXTY SEVEN

queen sigil
#

just get this

sly warren
#

No.

queen sigil
#

its so much better

sly warren
#

No.

tight pulsar
#

but my function keys

sly warren
#

I want 75%

sharp kindle
queen sigil
sharp kindle
#

or id80

queen sigil
#

^

sly warren
queen sigil
#

god why do you need bluetooth for a keyboard

tight pulsar
#

no my 40% friends are scary

sharp kindle
#

fr

queen sigil
sly warren
tight pulsar
#

60 is small enough for me

sharp kindle
#

laughs in pain 27

sly warren
#

I can literally pick up my keyboard, go to another room and instantly it will pair with another PC and just start working.

tight pulsar
#

60 is nice mix of size and usability

queen sigil
sharp kindle
#

or a gmmk pro

queen sigil
#

takes the same amount of time

sharp kindle
#

heck idc

sly warren
queen sigil
#

if ur going tactile id say like

#

dont get u4ts

tight pulsar
#

aviator ez

sly warren
#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

queen sigil
#

they gonna sound real poop

tight pulsar
#

okay i misspelled that by a lot but whatever

sly warren
#

I have people saying U4T's are fine after lube, and now I have people saying they are going to be bad.

#

Make up your F'ing minds people.

tight pulsar
#

gazzews stuff doesn’t need lube

sharp kindle
#

welcome to keyboards @sly warren

queen sigil
#

the switches arent bad

tight pulsar
#

for some switches he recommends no lube

queen sigil
#

im just saying putting them in a tray mount is gonna be bad

sly warren
#

Then recommend me a 75% with "gasket mount" and Bluetooth

#

Because otherwise your suggestions are gonna go in the gutter

queen sigil
#

get a kbd67 lite and then go be sad that you got a 65%

sharp kindle
#

he can o ring mount his keychron

#

cause its tray mount

#

i did it on my tofu

queen sigil
#

it has battery

sharp kindle
#

oh u right

sly warren
#

65%, It goes in gutter suggestions because not 75%

sharp kindle
#

why tf ar you so picky

tight pulsar
#

Jupiter75

sharp kindle
sly warren
tight pulsar
#

endgame is a myth

queen sigil
#

bruh its your endgame layout

#

then dont get a poop board with it

#

I want an 1800 or a 75%

sly warren
#

HAH, 289.00 for a SIXTY SIX UNIT GROUP BUY?!?

#

Nope

queen sigil
#

Im still here with a kbd67 because its still hands down the best keyboard for the price

sly warren
#

I want something that isn't going to literally cost my firstborne child and take ages to ship.

tight pulsar
#

it already happened

sly warren
#

Then why TF did you suggest it?

sharp kindle
#

extras kekw

tight pulsar
#

because it fit all of your criteria

sharp kindle
sly warren
tight pulsar
#

it just had to be gasket mount+bluetooth+75%

sharp kindle
tight pulsar
#

was that one of the criteria

sly warren
#

Obviously!

sharp kindle
#

nachos feeling spicy today

sly warren
#

If I can't buy it then I can't get it.

sharp kindle
#

you can buy it

#

r/mm

sly warren
#

...

tight pulsar
#

...

queen sigil
#

dot dot dot

sly warren
#

Not without being stupid lucky and someone selling their's

sharp kindle
sly warren
#

Yes, you are.

sharp kindle
tight pulsar
#

no people flip every board

sharp kindle
tight pulsar
#

i flipped a tofu and thats an in stock board

queen sigil
sharp kindle
#

he got banned

tight pulsar
#

people flipped the nk65 lol

sly warren
#

Jesus, someone 5 months ago wanted to sell one for 450 USD shipped

tight pulsar
#

welcome to the hobby

sly warren
#

Welcome to Nopesville

sharp kindle
#

a TGR jane went for 5.3k or best offer the other day

tight pulsar
#

some otd boards are 10k+

sharp kindle
#

not surprised

sly warren
#

Yeah, I'm gonna have to nope out of this mythical Jupiter75

tight pulsar
#

and thats if somebody is even willing to sell

sly warren
#

There's only 5 entries for it on MM, and there's ONE still avalable

#

For a 2x markup of the original price.

tight pulsar
#

darn if only you didn’t need bluetooth i could of shilled the hex 4b

sly warren
#

Maybe boards should start coming with actually useful features like Bluetooth that people use?

sharp kindle
#

nobody wants bluetooth in their board

#

other than you ofc

queen sigil
#

makes it not QMK/ VIA compatable

#

Adds a battery

#

makes it need a special PCB

sly warren
#

Who cares about QMK though? If you just use your keyboard like a normal human being, you wouldn't need to care about QMK crap.

#

Battery? Who cares?

queen sigil
#

im so very confused

sly warren
#

I've literally never needed to change a single key function on my keyboard ever.

sharp kindle
daring zenith
#

welp, I'm going to buy the t1 and 205g0 and the lubing station thing

queen sigil
sly warren
#

And? I just change the keybinds in the game.

sharp kindle
#

but with programming required

#

dude...

#

omg

sly warren
#

I don't change my keyboard to fit the game's original keybinds. I change the keybinds to fit my needs.

sharp kindle
#

thats not-

queen sigil
#

yes but what if you don't like the position of page up

#

or you want a keybind for something like print screen

sly warren
#

I deal with it?

#

I already have one?

#

Oh, right the K2 doesn't have Prnt Screen

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sharp kindle
#

well then deal with not having bluetooth

#

godammit

#

EZ Clap

sly warren
#

It was handy to have, but I already have a utility I use.

#

No.

#

Bluetooth is significantly better than having to dangle a wire across my living room to use my HTPC

daring zenith
#

blah blah different people different situation one keyboard might work for one person and not another :P

sly warren
#

Or my Raspberry Pi

queen sigil
#

bruh I still dont understand why you need one keyboard for like so many pcs u got

#

u said u got multiple keyboards

tight pulsar
#

just get a netdot and a few cables

sly warren
#

I have 2 keyboards. My Yuunzi and my MF68

#

Eventually the MF68 will become a showpiece

sharp kindle
#

how many pcs do you have?

sly warren
#

4

sharp kindle
#

tf do you do with them

sly warren
#

Main PC, HTPC, RasPi, Laptop

#

Main PC is for well, everything

sharp kindle
#

and you have to use your keyboard with your laptop

queen sigil
#

40$ keyboard on sshowcase

sharp kindle
#

just use your laptop board

sly warren
#

It's kinda busted.

#

No joke

sharp kindle
#

your problem

sly warren
#

Shift + some keys just do nothing

#

And the solution is plugging in a keyboard.

sharp kindle
#

then get a chiclet for 10 bucks off of lai

sly warren
#

No?

sharp kindle
#

ali*

tight pulsar
#

if only you had qmk to remap something to fix it

sly warren
#

When I can just buy 1 keyboard that works for all 4.

#

No, like Shift + Keystroke = literally no input

#

It's a electrical issue with the hardware.

daring zenith
#

n-key rollover no work?

sly warren
#

Yes.

daring zenith
#

rip

queen sigil
#

ur priorities are wack

sly warren
#

But Shift + A for example just flat has no input from the keyboard electrically

#

I've probed it.

queen sigil
#

u need u4ts but u cant care about how a keyboard sounds and feels

sly warren
#

It's weird as F

queen sigil
sly warren
#

I mean, I do care about how it sounds.

queen sigil
#

bruh then dont get a keychron

sly warren
#

Why though?

#

What sounds so "shitty" about a Keychron?

queen sigil
#

and ur buying new keycaps correct?

sly warren
#

No?

queen sigil
#

oh no

sly warren
#

Why would I?

queen sigil
#

really thin ABS keycaps

sly warren
#

And I care why?

queen sigil
#

really hollow case

sly warren
#

And?

queen sigil
#

sounds bad

sly warren
#

You have done nothing to convince me.

queen sigil
#

feels bad

sly warren
#

All you have done is say words

queen sigil
#

yes its because ur priorities are really strange

tight pulsar
#

nobody can convince you because of your ignorance

queen sigil
sly warren
#

Give me an A/B comparison with Boba U4T's in a Keychron vs another board that has the critera I want that I can actually buy and not have to scrounge for and I might listen to reason.

#

Otherwise your argument holds no water.

queen sigil
#

how about this ill just say differences in how a kbd67 and a keychron k2 feels and sounds

tight pulsar
#

nobody is putting u4ts in keychrons

sly warren
#

No, no "saying" anything

#

I want video proof.

daring zenith
#

as a side note, wasn't the whole point of u4 was to minimize noise therefore bottom out sound not a concern..?

tight pulsar
#

u4 silenced vs u4t non silenced

sly warren
#

I mean, the U4T has a bit of a thocky sound

#

It's called the U4 Thocky for a reason

daring zenith
#

hm

queen sigil
#

kbd67 is not hollow, Deep sounding, and has a fleexible plate and squishy gaskets
K2 is really hollow, sound is really inconsistant, super stiff

sly warren
#

I want auditory and visual evidence of the "issues" with a Keychron K2 Hotswap

queen sigil
#

bruh I was the one who first started recommending keychron to people here

sly warren
#

vs another "proper" hotswap with BT and 75% layout.

queen sigil
#

But for someone clearly looking to go into custom keyboards

#

you kinda dont care at all about anything

tight pulsar
#

u4t is for all the weird people that like long pole switches

queen sigil
#

besides "it needs bluetooth and 75%"

sly warren
#

I'm not trying to go into custom boards.

queen sigil
#

then why are you getting u4t

#

and speaking of "endgame"

sly warren
#

Because they are Tactile, and sound good and don't literally cost a firstborne child.

queen sigil
#

listen to some of the NEGATIVE things he says

sly warren
#

If I wanted custom shit, I'd sacrifice my firstborne child and build a KBD75 with Zilents V2

queen sigil
#

the only pros were basically it's cheap

tight pulsar
#

okay well don't pick zeal stuff if you want a reasonable price

queen sigil
tight pulsar
#

yes that's the same link again

sly warren
#

Different timestamp

queen sigil
#

and if you want tactiles just get gateron browns

sly warren
#

EWWW

#

Browns?

#

Are you a madman?

queen sigil
#

since you dont care about feel or sound that much

sly warren
#

But I do

#

Browns are 🤮

#

God bless, why would you ever suggest someone buy browns?

tight pulsar
#

vint brown

queen sigil
#

god your priorities are terrible

#

Can I get like a list

sly warren
#

My priorities are practical to my use case.