peripherals-and-displays

[queen sigil]

you route cables

and like the psu being at the too

top

[timber ridge]

i had to bend my psu cables in ways that make feel uneasy lol

[queen sigil]

like for my case you route it into the top then down the side

if you have long cables

[timber ridge]

thank god my cables were pretty short

and cheap too ngl

130 b4 tax for 750w

[queen sigil]

mine was 110 for 650

[timber ridge]

not bad

[royal sandal]

What mic is that

[queen sigil]

hyperx quadcast

i think

[timber ridge]

^

quadcast s i think @royal sandal

[royal sandal]

Is it any good?

Not that I have any use for it

[timber ridge]

its not bad but for the price you can 100% do better

[royal sandal]

Wave 3?

[timber ridge]

yea

but most of the gamer usb mics sound about the same

[cunning hearth]

fifine t669

ftw

[timber ridge]

for price, you really cant go wrong with it

q2u and fifine kinda stomp the 100usd> mics

not considering xlr mics, bc with the addition of a decent interface its like 100usd more

[royal sandal]

Is USB not a good interface for a mic?

[queen sigil]

oh boy

antoher cyberpunk deskmat

[royal sandal]

[timber ridge]

usb is fine in most cases

[cunning hearth]

usb is good

[west hornet]

well to be clear all mics have a interface, usb mics just have it built into the unit

[wise token]

what does the menu key even do ive never used it a single time

[calm cobalt]

Hey lance

[cunning hearth]

click it to find out

[timber ridge]

how it do

[wise token]

it doesnt do anything if i just hit it

[calm cobalt]

Uhh

general knows how to crash pc's

[timber ridge]

how many crashed their pc so far?

[calm cobalt]

Floppa is going to

IDK about the rest lol

[tight pulsar]

boys its here

o dang the spacebars are hella straight for pbt

[timber ridge]

ooo

cant wait til i buy a epbt set and the space bar is a u shape

[wise token]

buy crp ez

[tight pulsar]

okay should i use scoops, bars, or nubs

[daring zenith]

No nubs, I'd say between scoop and bar

[timber ridge]

bar

[daring zenith]

I don't see what the scoop is lol

Is it just normal key?

Or is there something that I'm not seeing

[timber ridge]

concave

[tight pulsar]

its more scooped/deep

also the esc or ! for escape and the tulip or arrows for the 1u keys

[daring zenith]

Ah, bar then

I say esc for escape

Color being reason

And I say bar too

[wise token]

okay but what for the 1u keys

[queen sigil]

bars

[daring zenith]

Personally arrows, but dunno how tulips would look

[queen sigil]

and tulips with dark esc

[daring zenith]

Dark esc should look nice

[timber ridge]

man i hope this epbt bow kit makes it pass ic phase

[wise token]

which one

[timber ridge]

bow hangul

[queen sigil]

lol why do you wan't it to pass IC so bad

[rugged lion]

i prefer scooped like to type on

however bars/nips look better imo

[timber ridge]

i need the set

[queen sigil]

why

[timber ridge]

redemption for missing kuro shiro

[little crater]

i cry

[queen sigil]

200

[little crater]

stupid

it gets even worse, too

why are these so rare

[sand igloo]

what's the best sub 30$ mic? nothing too special, just something with decent quality

[calm cobalt]

K669b is 35$

Let me check pricing on the au a04 one sec

Hm, cant find it in stock

Oh well

https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-TONOR-Podcasting-Compatible-TC-777/dp/B07WLWN2ZT/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=tc+777&qid=1614036213&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE1R1lFRUJXWE4wQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRJZD1BMDQ2NTE0NDJYUFpGQ0FBUUdXWFgmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDI5MTk1NUNLU1A0SUo4WEFBWCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl hey the tc 777 is on sale, get that instead of the fifine

[sand igloo]

thank you for the recommendations

should i buy a mic with an arm or just buy a separate arm/mic holder?

[queen sigil]

all mic cheap mics are the same

cheap mic arms

until you get something thats like gas spring

[west hornet]

for usb that fifine is fine, a q2u if you go a bit over budget, xm8500 for xlr

[mortal knot]

is a maono Au-A04H a good cheap mic

is the*

i got it for 36 dollars for the whole set i think thats a steal

[calm cobalt]

Tc30 peaking issues would like to disagree

[queen sigil]

did you not see me correct what I said?

[calm cobalt]

Ah ok, yessir you are correct

[west hornet]

snowball

[calm cobalt]

But yeah, for 28$ cant go wrong with the tc 777

[west hornet]

im not very good with mics at such low budget

[calm cobalt]

Q2u is great

But yeah costlier

Oh well, he said he didnt need anything too special, so yeah, no need if im honest

[sly warren]

Tiny budget? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016C4ZG74/ but you'll need RTX Voice

[neon quartz]

Andrew.#5321 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[calm cobalt]

Shoot, he meant mic arms

[west hornet]

i forgot about lav mics xD not most conventional for pc but if you don't mind

[ornate yarrow]

I use that mic 😄

[calm cobalt]

Sweet

Lav mics are a thing, but meh, not for a pc

Or just screw it and get a v moda boom pro (given your headphone supports it) for max convenience

[ornate yarrow]

Oh while I'm here I am seeking advice on headphone selection

[calm cobalt]

Sure, whats your budget?

[ornate yarrow]

100-150

[calm cobalt]

Akg k361

[sly warren]

Eh...

I'd start with something cheaper.

To learn what you like.

[calm cobalt]

Sure ig

[sly warren]

Koss UR40 and Porta Pro are both great options not only for Gaming, but for music.

[west hornet]

hd560s seem decent if you like analytical

[calm cobalt]

560s is pog, but he400i is more

[sly warren]

HD 560S's are great all-rounders

HE-400I 2020 is skip worthy.

[calm cobalt]

Ya think?

[sly warren]

Just get Sundaras if you want to go Planar

[west hornet]

oh boy

[calm cobalt]

Theyre like double the price

[sly warren]

And?

They are more than double the worth in terms of sound quality.

[calm cobalt]

... not the same price range?

[ornate yarrow]

I play games but I've been listing to music a lot more recently... if that helps at all to settle the debate

oh my name is green

[calm cobalt]

More than double the price actually

[sly warren]

I'd start by buying any one of these options

Koss UR40, Koss KSC75, Koss Porta Pro, and Creative Aurvana Live SE.

[calm cobalt]

And the 400i still beats the 560s in overall detail and speed

[west hornet]

the second headphones are mentioned war begins

[sly warren]

Not really.

The 560S's are a better all-rounder.

400i doesn't have more detail.

Speed, sure. Bass Response? sure.

[calm cobalt]

Agree to disaagree

[sly warren]

Detail? Arguably no.

Anyways.

UR40's are mid-forward. They are great for gaming, and don't sound bad for music either.

Though, if your ears are large you might not enjoy them.

Mine get a tad painful to wear for more than 2 hours.

[calm cobalt]

Cheap koss is great, kph30i works too

Swap the pads out they're pretty comfortable (ur40)

[sly warren]

Porta Pros are a bit darker, a little more Bass than UR40's, but they are significantly more comfy, especially after adding Yaxi Pads

[west hornet]

i enjoy portas and kph, the kph are a bit more neutral

[sly warren]

KSC75 are a bit more on the Treble side, but use the same Porta Pro driver

KPH30i is also good, I just don't have them yet, or KSC75's

[calm cobalt]

They're 18$ after all, cant complain too much

[west hornet]

some random chart

[sly warren]

I'll eventually get the 4 Horseman Of Koss

[calm cobalt]

Oddly enough I never used porta pros

Should probably do so

Anywho gtg, see ya

[sly warren]

Creative Aurvana Live SE's are super Bassy, but I hear they are really fun.

[west hornet]

they are nice, had a few harsh peaks to my ears but yaxi pads helped with that

[sly warren]

If you like EDM, or just want the SLAM, then start with Creative Aurvana Live SE's

Because they really go SLAM when you want the SLAM

And if you like those, you have a direct upgrade if you ever desire, and that's EMU Teaks.

[ornate yarrow]

thanks for the help

[sly warren]

EMU Teaks are if you want even more SLAM with your SLAM

They are 450 USD, or 500 USD if you want a removable cable with your SLAM

Oh, wait I mean if you want a removable cable with your Teaks...

Sorry, they just slam really hard for bassheads.

Had to emphasize that.

[west hornet]

so ya that chart is a nice quick reference, if you are not sure what sound you might like you can try something cheaper like we mentioned first. do keep in mind what you listen to is a factor as well

[fossil dune]

Can someone help me find a keyboard that has the same layout as the Lenovo y520? Any contributions very much appreciated.

[sly warren]

But why?

That is a super non-standard layout

Do you 100% need the number pad?

Do you use it on a daily basis?

Because you could easily get a 70% or TKL and use less space on your desk

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard E.x this board

Keychron makes great boards.

[calm cobalt]

Sundara on sale for 280$

[sly warren]

Fuuuuuuuuu

I wish I had 280 to throw around right now...

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[calm cobalt]

When translated over to usd I mean

[sly warren]

Oh...

[queen sigil]

there was like a cheap chineese mech keyboard that looked like the same layout

[calm cobalt]

350 canadian, not bad, not bad

Might give it a try, already have a few planars laying around but nothing over 300$

[sly warren]

Do you have a DAC and Amp stack?

[tight pulsar]

legends for days https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801217082963787827/813606440031354890/IMG_5532.JPG https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801217082963787827/813606447349891112/IMG_5528.JPG

[sly warren]

lol

[calm cobalt]

A30/D30, been looking at tube amps recently

[sly warren]

Be wary of Tube Amps

They color the sound, and are a B to maintain

Do you have a Magni and Modi?

Because for like 90% of audio, that's all you need is a Magni and Modi

[tight pulsar]

tubes are preference 🤷‍♂️

[west hornet]

cute cat

[calm cobalt]

Nah sorry, little dot mk II is what Im looking at, DMS reviewed it, just for that extra coziness/warmth

Say what do you use?

[sly warren]

Me? All I have right now is a Meizu Dongle.

My first stack is gonna be a Schiit stack

Unless I can find an Atom Stack for cheaper

[calm cobalt]

Mhm

Thats nice, headphone wise?

[west hornet]

apple dongle gang

[tight pulsar]

also i totally didnt put the prt sc on a totally random key so i can enjoy more side legends https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801217082963787827/813606437120901200/IMG_5540.JPG

[calm cobalt]

Apple dongle best dac

[west hornet]

i use dongle, motu m2, and schiit stack. i need mooorrrrreee

[tight pulsar]

ghost do u want my apple earbuds

[sly warren]

Right now my headphone list is...

Koss UR40 and Porta Pro

Sennheiser HD558 and PC37X

Audio Technica ATH-M50X

Oh, and my IEM collection is 2, about to be 3.

[west hornet]

i already have apple earbuds xD

[sly warren]

KZ ZS10 Pros and ATH-IM50's are my current IEMs

[west hornet]

might be getting a few more mics soon

[sly warren]

And then I'm about to get some Ear Buttplugs.

ER2SR's are what I am referring to as "Ear Buttplugs"

[calm cobalt]

A30/d30, here for headphones I have well

Ur40/ksc75/kph30i
M1060(ew), m570
He400i
Esp95x

Say hows the pc37x?

[west hornet]

koss trinity

[sly warren]

It needs a DAC to sound good

[calm cobalt]

Oh yeah and a few sennheiser

[sly warren]

It sounds muddy without a DAC

[calm cobalt]

Hd 580, 560s and 600, dont own the 560s and 600 anymore tho

[sly warren]

With my Meizu Dongle though, it sounds pretty good. Nothing like, super amazing.

[calm cobalt]

Better than most gaming headsets I suppose?

[sly warren]

My next major Headphone purchase is gonna be HD 560S's

[tight pulsar]

hm how many people like iems more than over ears

[sly warren]

Yeah, they are above average for a Gaming Headset.

[west hornet]

im fine with iems but i prefer over ear for longer listening

[calm cobalt]

I suppose portability for most people

Over ear is best agreed

On ear is disgusting

Well, apart from a few

[west hornet]

i would like a pair of monitors... eventually...

[calm cobalt]

Kph30is for example are sweet on ears

[sly warren]

I honestly prefer my Porta Pros compared to my UR40's

[calm cobalt]

Hmm, comfort wise or sound you mean?

[west hornet]

porta is my go to for travel

[sly warren]

Uhhh... kinda both?

[calm cobalt]

Icic

[sly warren]

Yaxi Pads make my Porta Pros significantly more comfy

Though, I can't really tell them too much apart.

[calm cobalt]

Im sure a pad swap on the ur40 would imrove comfort quite a bit

[tight pulsar]

do they have estat iems

[calm cobalt]

Stock ones are pretty junk

[west hornet]

yes

[sly warren]

Where TF do you find UR40 pads?

[tight pulsar]

hm

[west hornet]

i think linus even reviewed a estat iem long time ago. it was like 1500usd iirc xD

[tight pulsar]

darn they dont look funier than planar iems

[calm cobalt]

Hehe, planar iems

[tight pulsar]

hm

[west hornet]

[calm cobalt]

Zeos (ew) was using these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HXAV0UY/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8&ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace#cm_cr_carousel_images_section

If koss would put a removable cable on ksc75s/portapros/ur40s/kph30is

That would be amazing

[sly warren]

Just do a MMCX mod

4head

[calm cobalt]

Sure, but thats well

[west hornet]

lol beats

[calm cobalt]

A mod pog

Shhh

Lets not talk about that

[west hornet]

i do have a pair of studio 2s in my house somewhere haha

[calm cobalt]

Anywho, sure it would be beneficial for most people instead of modding it

[west hornet]

brings back good old nightmares

[calm cobalt]

I have worse

Razer opus

Just wanted to try them, still within the 30 day amazon return period

Thing has the worst driver in any headphone I ever tried

[west hornet]

reminds me i tried a relatives krakenx te or whatever it called. It scare me and afterward I just put back on my 50usd iems right away

[calm cobalt]

Boomy pieces of garbage iirc

Razer cant make a headphone

They should stick to mice

Which iems btw?

[west hornet]

i have a pair of tin t2s I use occasionally

[calm cobalt]

Tin t2s sweet, those are built pretty well

[west hornet]

ye the connector seems a bit delicate but no issues so far and they are pretty solid. some soundtracks i really like the sound on them

[sly warren]

Tin T2 Plus is more of the same goodness from T2's, but even better.

Avoid T2 Pro

[calm cobalt]

Opinion on the moondrop ssp?

[sly warren]

Uhh, SSP is... Dark sounding IIRC

SSR is a bit Treble oriented.

The SSP is probably nicer sounding to more people.

[west hornet]

moondrop look pretty

[sly warren]

Good lord, do I really want to spend 40 bucks on Pads for my UR40's?

Like, spending 22 bucks on my IM50's is different because my IM50's were free.

[calm cobalt]

Hmm, graphs show the ssp as being somewhat treble oriented

[sly warren]

Oh, maybe it was SSR is dark and SSP is treble

I don't remember.

[calm cobalt]

Maybe, let me check

[sly warren]

I know one is dark tuning and one is trebly

[sly warren]

SSP is darker then.

Well... "darker"

Both are V shape

[calm cobalt]

Darker I guess, not very dark tho

Ye

[sly warren]

SSP is probably what i'll get when I get one of those.

[calm cobalt]

Wise choice

[timber ridge]

dino got ssp a bit while back

[calm cobalt]

How were they?

[timber ridge]

he liked them

[sly warren]

The body is pretty small too.

Less likely to fall out I'd say, and apparently great to sleep with too.

[calm cobalt]

They look great too

[queen sigil]

lance how do you play valorant

[timber ridge]

i rarely do

[sly warren]

Step 1: Uninstall Valorant
Step 2: Install CS:GO
Step 3: You are now playing better Valorant

[calm cobalt]

Step 4: uninstall cs go because people are being rude to you

Step 5: install rainbow 6 siege

You are now playing superior cs:go

[sly warren]

Eh....

[calm cobalt]

Ehe

[royal sandal]

Two very different games but ok

CS:GO is a lot faster paced

And there are 10v10 modes

[timber ridge]

ones free

i think thats the big factor

[calm cobalt]

Both you need to defuse bombs, therefore the same game

In all seriousness, they arent the same thing (valorant and cs:go as an ex), but similar enough

Overall "context" if you will is the same, tho gameplay is different I agree

This is peripherals, whoops

[timber ridge]

apples to oranges

and peripherals goes out of topic a lot

so its normal 🙂

[calm cobalt]

Gotcha

[royal sandal]

Val is CS:GO but with Overwatch characters and abilities made in Unreal or whatever engine

[timber ridge]

we were legit talking about water flossers yesterday lol

[calm cobalt]

[royal sandal]

When does yours arrive

[timber ridge]

tomorrow hopefully

[royal sandal]

Good

[calm cobalt]

I never really played valorant that much

[royal sandal]

Then you will know true comfort

[timber ridge]

i made sure to pick one with a massage optionlol

and valorant is eh

[calm cobalt]

What games do you generally play?

[timber ridge]

nowadays, not much

college kinda takes up all my time

[calm cobalt]

Hm, yeah, same story here

[timber ridge]

usually jus listening to music tbh

[calm cobalt]

Mhm, must be quite enjoyable on those iems

[timber ridge]

yup

[calm cobalt]

What kind of music do you listen to?

[timber ridge]

everything but country

[sly warren]

lol

[calm cobalt]

Theres some good country music...

[timber ridge]

just not my cup of tea

[calm cobalt]

Yeah, understandable

Favorite artist?

[timber ridge]

hard to say lol

but i have some for specific genres

jazz, kamasi washington is prob my favorite

[tight pulsar]

toc best artist

[sly warren]

Personally I'm a huge fan of Shoji Meguro for Video Game Music.

And, if you don't know who that is, you are wrong.

[calm cobalt]

Heaven and earth is a pretty sweet album actually

[timber ridge]

yea it is

[calm cobalt]

Who's shoji meguro

[sly warren]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Only one of the best VGM artists ever.

Ever listen to the soundtrack for Persona 5?

[timber ridge]

i wanna get another pair of iems, but i need get a proper pair of open backs first

[calm cobalt]

Whats persona 5

[royal sandal]

Martin O’Donnell best music man

[sly warren]

What.

[tight pulsar]

dunno if u can beat lena raine tho for ost

[sly warren]

Did this man just say "whats persona 5"

[royal sandal]

Only one person: Martin O’Donnell. Lena is a hero of mine tho.

[sly warren]

Good lord.

[royal sandal]

Amazing artist

[timber ridge]

he did odst right ?

[royal sandal]

All Bungie’s halo games

[tight pulsar]

lenas music is a bop and the story with the celeste ost was really cool

[sly warren]

Persona 5 is only one of the best JRPG games of all time.

[timber ridge]

odst gives me the shivers

[sly warren]

With a BANGER of a soundtrack

[calm cobalt]

I see

[timber ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk&ab_channel=jesskamo

[calm cobalt]

Never heard of it, might take a listen later on

[timber ridge]

this

[sly warren]

Here's a freebie FLAC of a great song.

Whenever it uploads...

[calm cobalt]

This is taking a bit lmao

[calm cobalt]

Hey, there it is

[sly warren]

I mean, it IS a FLAC.

[calm cobalt]

Thanks, Ill take a listen tomorrow or smth

Yessir

[sly warren]

A 968k FLAC

[calm cobalt]

Downloaded, thanks!

[calm cobalt]

Downloaded

[sly warren]

So, not like, ultra-high def, but still better than a MP3

[calm cobalt]

Do you have tidal?

[sly warren]

No, I skipped Tidal it's kinda meh.

[timber ridge]

sending my 12 min kamasi washington flac

[calm cobalt]

Ah ok

[sly warren]

The list of songs in high-def is mediocre at best.

[tight pulsar]

hm whats the worst flac i have

[west hornet]

tidal and foobar, tidal mostly for soundtracks of stuff i don't have downloaded

[timber ridge]

all the good music is on sc

[little crater]

reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zpegqo-vmc&ab_channel=bigheadbungo

[tight pulsar]

ghost do u have the celeste farewell ost

[sly warren]

The Persona series as a whole has a lot of bangers.

[west hornet]

don't thjink so

[timber ridge]

thats so cursed lmao

[little crater]

yep lol

[sly warren]

Persona 3 has probably one of the most memed battle themes of all time.

Don't need Nitro

[calm cobalt]

Didnt mean to send that lol

[sly warren]

The Server has Nitro

[timber ridge]

can you link me how it sounds like

[calm cobalt]

Ah ok

[timber ridge]

i may have it

[west hornet]

ehem

[sly warren]

Jesus

Even if you aren't a Persona fan, you may have heard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44l2VRP9qwg before.

[calm cobalt]

Lmao, should try sending a 24 minute flac song

[west hornet]

3 minute 4616kbps song xD

[calm cobalt]

Im using bluetooth headphones rn lol

Doubt ill hear the difference

[timber ridge]

@tight pulsar what u want

actually

it lowkey sounds kinda trash ngl

[west hornet]

sad

[calm cobalt]

Pretty good, tho not exactly my cup of tea, you have good taste in music my friend

[sly warren]

Well, Persona has a lot of different tracks.

That's just one of the heavily memed tracks.

[tight pulsar]

those flac?

[sly warren]

Because it literally plays in every random encounter battle in Persona 3.

[calm cobalt]

Ic

[sly warren]

And it's the ONLY battle theme (outside of the Boss theme)

[calm cobalt]

Is the song in super smash bros? Or smth

[sly warren]

It is.

When Joker (Persona 5 Protagonist) got added, he brought a good selection of Persona tracks.

[calm cobalt]

Sweet, well, a few of them, its like 1 hours lol

Nice, might look into the game

[timber ridge]

yea but dont sound so good

[sly warren]

That's a 1 hour loop of Mass Destruction

[calm cobalt]

Ah ok

[sly warren]

Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden (Now on PC!) and Persona 5 Royal (Possibly coming to PC on Epic Games Store) are the main 3 titles.

Nobody really plays Persona 1, and Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Persona 2 Eternal Punishment.

They are all kinda clunky to play. But 3, 4, and 5 are excellent.

And in traditional JRPG fashion you can play them in any order you feel like.

[calm cobalt]

Thats a lot of personas

[sly warren]

The characters and story are all unique to each game.

[ivory ivy]

The P5R thing was a satirical article that a bunch of people surprisingly fell for.

But yea no, it'll be on PC soon.

[sly warren]

What?

[ivory ivy]

Anyway yea, Persona OST is great.

[timber ridge]

lmao

[sly warren]

I mean, Strikers is out on PC.

[ivory ivy]

Yea no, it is coming to PC. I 100% agree.

[sly warren]

So, I wouldn't be surprised if Royal comes to PC

[ivory ivy]

But the article you're referring to is fake.

[sly warren]

Fork...

That makes me sad AF

[tight pulsar]

i think i found a good mega link but if its bad ill let you know

[calm cobalt]

https://youtu.be/MABlVRmvJQ4 should be easier to pick up than other tracks from that album lol

[sly warren]

Oh, and if you want to play Persona 3 FES, it's Playstation 2 exclusive, but easily emulated.

[timber ridge]

doesnt sound so good (sending flac)

[sly warren]

Or if you are feeling fruity, you can play Persona 3 Portable on PSP. It's a tad easier, but the presentation is more like a Visual Novel

Combat is significantly easier in Portable though.

Because you can actually control your party members.

[calm cobalt]

Flac is the only true audio format

[timber ridge]

idk if its my ears but

[tight pulsar]

wait lmao this link also included the sheetmusic lol

[ivory ivy]

Yes! I love the Celeste OST.

[tight pulsar]

but yeah i should be fine with this mega link most of them are 1000kbps+

[west hornet]

this?

ow its mp3

[royal sandal]

It’s only 8 bits anyways

[stoic solar]

didnt i give u the flac celeste ost

dummy

[west hornet]

No idk what celeste is xD

[stoic solar]

[stoic solar]

what flacs

[calm cobalt]

I stood up for Peripherals

[west hornet]

[stoic solar]

i gave someone the celeste ost in flac

weird

[timber ridge]

if i leave the server will i get my rank when i join back

[little crater]

yes

[queen sigil]

yes

[slow copper]

Yoo can some one help me pick out a chair?

[queen sigil]

budget

[timber ridge]

oh okay

[queen sigil]

trust me

[timber ridge]

ill try to help this guy

[slow copper]

$110

[timber ridge]

b4 i go

[slow copper]

And it needs a headrest

[queen sigil]

i've been kicked like 3 times, banned twice, and muted like 4 times

110 is kinda

not that much

[timber ridge]

110 with headrest is kinda impossible ngl

[queen sigil]

GAMING CHAIR

no dont actually

that probs doesnt exist

[slow copper]

Well ive found a few, can u guys tell me if they are good?

[sly warren]

Yeah, you basically have enough money for a fancy lawn chair.

[timber ridge]

if you can bump it to 150, get a hyken mesh

[sly warren]

They likely are all garbage.

[timber ridge]

its a no brainer pick

[calm cobalt]

NO GAmING CHAIR

ERGO

[sly warren]

Like just legitimate garbage

[calm cobalt]

Void knows

Gaming chair=bad

Office chair=good

[slow copper]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TQN5W68/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_SHZMKV576XZHDBEMPD8C?psc=1

[calm cobalt]

Void uses em at void's desk.

[timber ridge]

i bought a more expensive chair with a similar design and the worse part of it is the seat cushion

[queen sigil]

i knbow gaming chair bad

because i sit on one

[queen sigil]

[calm cobalt]

Gaming Chair hurts.

[timber ridge]

with that design, youre gonna be sitting ona piece of wood in like less than a week

[queen sigil]

i bought an amazon chair

and it has a pretty big cushion

but it still not that nice to sit on

[calm cobalt]

Void has good ergo chair.

[slow copper]

I have a small pillow i could use to make it more comfortable

[calm cobalt]

Helps with back support.

[timber ridge]

if you can bump the budget just a bit

https://www.staples.com/staples-hyken-technical-mesh-task-chair-silver-53293/product_24328579

id recommend that

[neon quartz]

Br(ain)|Celeron Shill#9612 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[slow copper]

Oh

[queen sigil]

imagine being tall

[slow copper]

What about a chair without a headrest

[sly warren]

https://prnt.sc/104g8ue This is cheap chinese garbage.

[calm cobalt]

5"7

[sly warren]

Uhh, just get a Hyken.

[sly warren]

There's not much under 100 bucks outside of a fancy lawn chair.

[queen sigil]

yay we're average

im like 5'8

[slow copper]

Im 5’5 😅

[calm cobalt]

lol

Imagine not being a TA next year

this post was made by the recruited TA Gang.

[slow copper]

Okay so ive learned that i am poor, i gotta get more money for a better chair

[slow copper]

Is it really that bad?!

[sly warren]

Yes...

Look at that typo

[timber ridge]

its buy nice or buy twice

[slow copper]

True

[timber ridge]

and im not sure long the hyken mesh will be on sale for

msrp is like 200 or something

[neon quartz]

cloudybxbad#3103 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sly warren]

229.99 MSRP

[slow copper]

Shiii

[timber ridge]

i actually cringed irl from that

[slow copper]

Dude please stfu for everyones sake

[timber ridge]

jus let em be

no point in arguing

@young crown

[junior flower]

I gor it

[timber ridge]

thx

[junior flower]

I got it

[timber ridge]

u were on mobile so didnt know if you wanted to be @

[slow copper]

Fair, but do u know a good price for a mesh chair without a headrest?

[timber ridge]

i didnt really look into it much

but ik 100% the hyken can compete with chairs 5x its price etc

[sly warren]

If I had the money, I'd buy a Hyken right now.

Then my mother won't have to B about me using her crappy chair.

[timber ridge]

i hoped i kinda helped

gonna take a break for a while, feeling a bit unmotivated in everything

care

[slow copper]

Ight thanks

[queen sigil]

rip lance

[pearl ginkgo]

Does any1 know a good cheap transparent acrylic case for a custom keyboard I am a beginner and my budget is $120

For the whole keyboard

[queen sigil]

that aint happening

[pearl ginkgo]

Not just the case

Y not

[queen sigil]

acrylic cases dont start that cheap for custom keyboards

there are like tkl acrylic prebuilt keyboards

[pearl ginkgo]

What abt this type of case

It’s resin

[queen sigil]

resin cases are even more expensive

for 120$ i wouldnt go custom

[pearl ginkgo]

It’s 62 here

[queen sigil]

well thats just the case

[pearl ginkgo]

Keycaps I alr have

So the 120 is for everything else

[queen sigil]

then like 20$+ for pcb 20$ for the plate 30+ for switches

and ur just getting a tray mount

[swift lantern]

Why do you need an acrylic case for your keyboard

[pearl ginkgo]

These are the switches I want

They are only 20

[queen sigil]

well i guess thats ur opinion

[pearl ginkgo]

I wanna slowly get into customs keyboards

[queen sigil]

speed switches are pretty gross

[pearl ginkgo]

I alr have a super nice keyboard in my opinion I have a apex pro tkl and before u ask, no I don’t play Fortnite

[queen sigil]

speed switches arent exactally good

and neither is the apex pro

[pearl ginkgo]

I like my apex pro and I got it on a big discount from micro center because of first responder discount I only spent 120

[queen sigil]

If you like it then save up for a better custom mech

[pearl ginkgo]

What keyboard do u have

[queen sigil]

currently using a kbd67 lite

with stock feker holy pandas

[pearl ginkgo]

Nice

This case is cool for it

[queen sigil]

well that's out of ur budget

[pearl ginkgo]

I wanna buy like a full keyboard kit so like have everything but build it myself for experience

[queen sigil]

and also speed swithes arent worth it

[pearl ginkgo]

How much was ur keyboard

[queen sigil]

like 190 before tax and shipping

[swift lantern]

Yike

[pearl ginkgo]

Damn

That’s a lot

[queen sigil]

not really in terms of custom keyboards

[swift lantern]

A singular yike

[queen sigil]

but again, don't buy speed switches

[pearl ginkgo]

K

I want something tactile cuz I use linear everyday and I got tired of it

[queen sigil]

then buy a decent tactil switch

[pearl ginkgo]

Is there anyway you can send me the parts to ur build so I can save it and when I get enough money buy a similar build

[queen sigil]

A-keycaps are preference
B-Switches were like 37$ but I spent like 40$ on stuff to mod them
C-switches are also preference

[pearl ginkgo]

Keycaps I have

I just want to have a really nice case

[stoic solar]

that looks NICE

[stoic solar]

i forgot how much my main keeb was valued at

i think like 400 something

cause it was when ppl were paying insane prices for frozen llama

plus 300 of artisans on top of that

[queen sigil]

frozen lama?

isnt that like a ducky thing?

[pearl ginkgo]

I think so

[queen sigil]

imagine valuing ducky stuff

[stoic solar]

yeah it is

and its cause its a cool board

[queen sigil]

i mean artisans is probs the only thing that would keep its value

[stoic solar]

i have like 7 keebs lol

[queen sigil]

i have like 5 after selling my last one

[calm cobalt]

I heard duck?

Duck kabobs?

[stoic solar]

its fun to swap keebs when ur not feelin it

[calm cobalt]

Nvm then.

[pearl ginkgo]

With custom keyboards do I have to solder or are there kits where I don’t

[queen sigil]

hot swap

[stoic solar]

not as hot as swapping entire board

[queen sigil]

hot swap kits

[stoic solar]

i have like 3 varmilo keebs

[queen sigil]

swapping switches takes like 20 min

for my 65%

[stoic solar]

swapping keebs takes like 3 seconds

i have a pile next to my desk

[queen sigil]

i have a black widow, a huntsman

[stoic solar]

i swap between brown blue and jade

im liking browns tho

[queen sigil]

and you say you hate linears

[stoic solar]

i feel like theyre the least tactile tactiles

[queen sigil]

yet you like browns

[stoic solar]

but without feeling like garb

[queen sigil]

[stoic solar]

like every other linear

[queen sigil]

brown is basically a linear

you know that right

its more linear than tactile

nk sherbets and box navys are the only clickies id every consider using

and maybe outemu pheonixes

[stoic solar]

i like box pinks

cause

pink is cute

:)))

[queen sigil]

box silent pinks?

[stoic solar]

https://novelkeys.xyz/products/novelkeys-x-kailh-box-pinks

https://youtu.be/qvuF6S9lxZQ

[calm cobalt]

I saw some cheer blossom one

Cherry pretty

[pearl ginkgo]

What’s a good hot swap diy kit

[queen sigil]

kdb67 and portico

[queen sigil]

https://youtu.be/3HkgFxgy1FA

lili^

also you cant like browns and dislick linears as a whole

not how that works

[fossil dune]

I'm an animator and having the function key on the left side is very helpful

also the shallow keystrokes help me type faster

[queen sigil]

the keyboard its just a membrane

but the layout isnt exactally real

just get any fullsize keyboard with a numpad

[fossil dune]

id like to but the layout is super efficient for me in mobas and stuff as well

[queen sigil]

then get like a keychron k4

closest thong youre gonna find to that

[fossil dune]

aw, but no leftside function key

[queen sigil]

leftside function key?

[fossil dune]

yeah

lenovo y520 has a left side function key which is very helpful for transform tool functions on adobe animate

[queen sigil]

alright, no clue what you are talking about, but the layout you are looking for

isnt a real keyboard layout

its just something that lenovo made

for their laptop

[fossil dune]

damn, what a shame

it's a smart layout

[queen sigil]

not really

like are you talking about the one with the left side numpad?

[fossil dune]

no

[queen sigil]

i mean arrow cluster

also if you need alot of keys just buy an ortholinear board

[fossil dune]

the numpad and arrow cluster are on the right side for me

[queen sigil]

maybe i just saw a diff pic

can you send a pic of ur laptoo

laptop

[fossil dune]

not in this channel, no

[queen sigil]

just dm it to me

[fossil dune]

sure

[queen sigil]

okay so a left side function key never really exists

[pearl ginkgo]

This is a nice one

[queen sigil]

for custom keyboards you could flash a new layout but thats brobs out of your busget for what layout you want

and that right side numpad is something basically nothing has

this type of keyboatd layout is basivally gonna only be found on laptops

@pearl ginkgo thats probs gonna be like 2-3 hundered

d60 isnt exactally a budget option

[pearl ginkgo]

Damn that sucks

I need a budget option that actually looks good

[queen sigil]

only good cheap options is the portico and kbd67 when it comes to budget

for typing experience and sound

[pearl ginkgo]

Portico isn’t purchasable it’s pre order

[fossil dune]

oh are custom keyboards a thing?

I hadn't considered that

[queen sigil]

both are

[pearl ginkgo]

Can u pls send me a link to kbd67 my phone is glitching

[queen sigil]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbd67lite

[pearl ginkgo]

Thx so much

Can u pls tell me what it includes

[queen sigil]

the pcb and case

screwdrivers

extra screws

carrying case

coiled cable

[pearl ginkgo]

Let’s just say I want that and some Khail box pinks how much would that be

I have some keycaps alr

[queen sigil]

i mean id say not to get them

[pearl ginkgo]

So what are some decent switches on the cheaper side

[queen sigil]

but a kbd67 would be 130 before tax and after shipping

[pearl ginkgo]

And I don’t need any extra customization

[queen sigil]

i mean you dont need to

[pearl ginkgo]

Like lubed switches and stuff like that

[queen sigil]

like 70 durock t1s are like 40$

and they come prelubed

and are pretty nice tactile switches

[pearl ginkgo]

That’s nice

What color is ur kbd67

I wanna get green

[queen sigil]

I got r1

so i got the dark grey transparent option

[pearl ginkgo]

Ima get r2 and green if I get it

That’s nice

My friend rly wants a shiba inu

Do u have one or do u just like them

[queen sigil]

used to own one

[pearl ginkgo]

I have a Portuguese water dog

[queen sigil]

i mean it wasnt really mine but i lived with one

[pearl ginkgo]

I used to live with a shiba inu also

I have an extra floor in my house so I rent it out and they had a shiba inu

I’m number #2435 how long do you think ima gonna be waiting?

[queen sigil]

thats not how it works

they do a groupbuy/preorder

theyre gonna do one in a month

then its gonna ship in june or something

[pearl ginkgo]

Holy

That’s a while

[queen sigil]

i mean for custom keyboards its not that long

[pearl ginkgo]

Is there anyway I can get an r1 and not r2 and not wait so long

[queen sigil]

besides buying from a third party?

nope

and r1 only had transparent greynlike the one i got and white and black

[pearl ginkgo]

What abt portico it doesn’t let me pre order

Plate a or plate b?

[queen sigil]

portico is also a preorder

also why do you need a playe

and the plate depends on ur pcb

[wanton burrow]

i changed the k6 to phantom elite tkl

for a 5600xt

[sharp pine]

Update I've been using the roccat mouse for a few months, my only complaint is that the mouse feels warm, so i turned down the LEDs and that appears to have fixed it, the right side on the base of the pink has some flex that you can feel, nothing real bad but it's a bit annoying, but I'll take these issues over the click issues that are apparent in the logictec, MSI and corsair mice.

because they appear to be the only company not using garbage china switches in their mice, I might swap to one of their keyboards as well after this G910 dies

[sly warren]

I mean, any gamer keyboard is gonna feel garbage.

I'd get a Keychron.

And, all switches for mice are... from china...

Ideally you get the lightest mouse you can possibly get that fits your hand size and grip style.

Because throwing around a heavy mouse while gaming is not good for your hands.

Can lead to a repetitive strain injury.

[sharp pine]

the roccat is fine, i do like my logitech keybaord, but the logitech software doesn't even work because they botched the update

now loads of people are having issues with the G software

i use to be a logitech fanboy, not anymore

this coolermaster CPU fan is making a noise like the bearings are gone on it, and it's a new CPU cooler

logitech also use to use japan switches, they don't anymore which has them plagued with the "double click" issue in the g903 and g502 i think it was

it pisses me off that I spend a few hundred and a few hundred on the mouse mat and they end up being dog poo

might as well spend money on a $50 madkatz and throw it out

[sly warren]

I mean, this is why you don't 100% trust big companies.

My next mouse is gonna either be an Atom Palm Hydrogen, or Model O Wireless

[sharp pine]

i'll support roccat, their stuff isn't giving me dramas

[sly warren]

So... you'll support garbage?

[sharp pine]

they're not garbage

[sly warren]

Because Roccat keyboards are pretty garbage, and they don't have a lightweight mouse yet.

Roccat is consistiently behind the curve in 90% of their products.

The only thing i'd ever consider buying from them is their Lapboard

[sharp pine]

this kone mouse is light enough though

i don't get RSI

it's grip is near perfection

[sly warren]

Oh, the Kone Pure Ultra is a 66g mouse.

[sharp pine]

yes

[sly warren]

Ok, so they do have an ultralight.

[sharp pine]

any lighter and it'll be rubbish

[sly warren]

They are just way late to the party.

[sharp pine]

late to the party but their stuff works

the rubbish corsair mouse click died within 1 day

[sly warren]

Well, Corsair isn't a mouse maker, they are a crappy case maker.

[sharp pine]

I also found my MX1000 mouse while looking for my AMD bracket

[sly warren]

Looks like Roccat uses Omrons, just like everyone else.

[sharp pine]

also a crappy PSU maker

[sly warren]

Ehhhh, I'd trust a Corsair PSU over a newer EVGA

EVGA's G3 units were a downhill slide from the glory of the G2

[sharp pine]

I use a courgar in my current setup

they had great reviews

I wouldn't mind trying an MSI PSU since I'm an MSI fanboy

[sly warren]

Ewww

Those are just crappy OEM'd units from some company

[sharp pine]

working as a computer tech MSI gives me the least amount of headaches

[sly warren]

Eh, I hear great things about ASUS's BIOS

[sharp pine]

but the mouse I had lasted 2 months before you couldn't soft click

ASUS are absolute rubbish

[sly warren]

[daring zenith]

PSU wise, the brand that's on the finished product means little

99% either cwt ss or sf rebrand

[sharp pine]

ther rampage 4 board I have you had to start it with a hairdryer, which was still apparent in the maximus extreme 4

[sly warren]

Those are like, ancient boards though.

[daring zenith]

@sly warren bios is really personal preference, but I've had people complain a lot about x570-plus' bios

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe just asus calling it docp for some reason

[sly warren]

DOCP is XMP for AMD

Because XMP is trademarked by Intel

[sharp pine]

and asus have gotten worse, from a tech standpoint, i remember telling a customer not to buy ROG shit, he went and bought a gaming laptop then brough it to us with GPU glitches, the GPU ended up being faulty

[daring zenith]

Yep, except all the other mobo makers got permission to call it xmp

eh, laptops are wacky

I actually like Asus on the laptop side atm, lots of performance offered, not many other players in yet

[sly warren]

Oh no...

G-Wolves has a Hati in Black/Purple...

G-Wolves plz... I don't want another wired mouse...

But... black and purple...

[daring zenith]

lol

[sly warren]

My setup isn't even Black and Purple and I want it...

[sharp pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNeP8Kkl9s Look at this, this is the same issue mine had, it's pretty hilarious, oh and the ASUS 4k monitor doesn't turn on half the time

[sly warren]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

And it's cheaper than a MOW

[daring zenith]

eh

[sharp pine]

i will forever boycot asus

[daring zenith]

I still need to figure out how to fix the squeaky scroll wheel on my mow

[sly warren]

Ooh, the Hati Medium also comes in an Aqua color.

Maybe I can get my Fiancee a mouse upgrade.

She's been using a G403 I had lying around for awhile.

If only the Hati came in a Wireless.

It'd probably be my perfect mouse.

[daring zenith]

I thought I saw some hati wireless mods

might be going crazy tho

[sly warren]

They have the Small in a Wireless.

[daring zenith]

huh

[sly warren]

Oh, it's a 1200 unit giveaway that I think already is over.

Probably testing the waters before going full blown production

Dammit, the Pixio PX248 Prime is not in stock anymore on Amazon

Time to finally get my Wi-Fi card also.

Because I'll need that sooner or later.

And for some reason my Wi-Fi network is somehow faster than my Ethernet, with no added latency.

I don't know how, and I don't know why.

I get 87.66 Mbps down on Wired Speedtest

On my Desktop

On my Phone (Using 5Ghz Wi-Fi)

Wait what...

45.3 Mbps???

2 weeks ago I got like, 230 Mbps on Wi-Fi on my phone

Oh, maybe it was because I was near-er to the router.

Which, my Desktop would be put closer to the router after I get my Wi-Fi card.

[rugged lion]

interesting

skeletn87 the move?

[sand igloo]

i'd like to splurge on some headphones under the 100 usd range. i've heard some good things about the akg k361s from audiophiles and headphone enthusiasts, but the reviews on amazon mention that there are better options for the price range. is this true, or are the akg's the go-to option for that budget?

[sly warren]

Uhh, I would start with something cheaper to learn what you like.

There's 5 really good cheap options, cheaper than that.

You have the Four Horsemen of Koss, which are

Porta Pro, UR40, KSC75, and KPH30i

and the Creative Aurvana Live SE.

And, while the K361's are nice, and they actually are one of the best options in the ~100 USD price range. I wouldn't just blind buy them before you know what kind of sound you like.

And, all of the Koss headphones have a Lifetime Warranty

And, Headphones really never "go bad" so it's not like you have a reason to toss older headphones if you buy new ones.

[sand igloo]

gotcha, thanks. i've heard a lot of good things about the CAL se headphones, but i'm a bit put off by the cheap looking design. a few reviewers mentioned that the build quality isn't great either.

[sly warren]

The build quality is sacrificed, but you get that good SLAM with the CAL SE's

CAL SE's are a basshead's dream, while also not being woofy like most "bassy" headphones.

And, if you end up enjoying CAL SE's, then your endgame is at around 500 bucks with the EMU Teaks

[ivory ivy]

Sounds like my type of headphone.

I'm a huge sucker for bass.

[sand igloo]

do the CAL!s have the best bass under 200, like i've heard?

[sly warren]

Yes.

Hands down CAL SE's have the absolute best sub-200 dollar bass

Probably even Sub-300 dollar bass

[sand igloo]

wow

that's really compelling

[sly warren]

Yeah, Sundaras are 350 to 500, which technically have better bass because they are Planar headphones.

Planar Magnetics have better Bass Extension due to their design, but they can be pricey.

The best entry level Planars are HiFiMan Sundaras, and as said before they are ~350 to ~500

Sometimes you can find an Open Box pair for like, 280 on the HiFiMan website.

Excellent headphones, though you will want an Amp and DAC for the Sundaras.

Back to CAL SE's though.

If you want to get the most out of the CAL SE's you'll want either an Apple Dongle or Meizu Dongle.

Even on Desktop.

Do you have an iPhone or an Android phone?

[sand igloo]

i have an android phone

[sly warren]

Do you have your own library of music?

[sand igloo]

i do not

[sly warren]

Does your phone have a 3.5mm jack?

[sand igloo]

yep

[sly warren]

Ok, so you are lucky enough to have that.

You can use your CAL SE's on your phone for spotify.

[sand igloo]

yeah lol, 3.5 mm jacks are a dying trend

*dead, actually

[sly warren]

If you didn't, you'd have to use a Dongle, but Android has a dumb limitation where without using a special mode, you can't use the DAC in a dongle.

So, for example, my Meizu Dongle (Or Sonata Dongle) can't be used with Spotify

And the DAC in my Pixel 2 XL sucks donkey balls

It's super bassy

[sand igloo]

aye a fellow pixel user

[sly warren]

I really hope the 5A actually comes with a Headphone Jack.

There's rumors it will have one.

[sand igloo]

i like the trend of the "a" phones having the jack

i'm still rocking the 3a

[sly warren]

So, I'd get a Meizu Dongle if you have the spare 22 ish bucks.

[sand igloo]

is it that worth it?

[sly warren]

It's a massive upgrade from your PC motherboard audio

[sand igloo]

ah ok

[sly warren]

Yes, very worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/Meizu-MasterHIFI-Converter-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B08H89VZKQ/ref=sr_1_1

Excellent little DAC.

It gets LOUD though.

[sand igloo]

ah nice

better to be too loud than too quiet

[sly warren]

You'll probably need to crank down your CAL SE's or whatever you put in it to around 50% or lower volume in Windows.

My UR40's I put at like, 30%, and my Porta Pros I put around 40%

With around 2% volume in MusicBee

That's how loud the Meizu Dongle can get.

[sand igloo]

wow

[sly warren]

If you ever want to start building your own library of music, I recommend getting the HiBy music app on your phone, it'll let you use the DAC in the Meizu Dongle by using "USB Exclusive Mode" which bypasses the android audio stack.

[sand igloo]

noted

the ur40 design is growing on me, i might go with those

i really wish they came in black, though

[sly warren]

There are some limitations to USB Exclusive Mode, E.x Volume cannot be changed outside of the app, and Android audio will not play through USB Exclusive Mode headphones (Notification Sounds, Youtube, Spotify, etc)

I enjoy my UR40's, but the pads are a bit fatiguing for my ear size.

After about 1 to 2 hours I have to take them off.

I'm debating on buying a pair of Shure HPAEC1540 earpads to replace them.

But they are 40 bucks.

Which is more than the cost of the UR40's

It's one of those "Is it really worth it" situations

If you do enjoy UR40's but they are uncomfortable, then a pair of HD560S's are basically a straight upgrade.

They are ~200 USD though.

[sand igloo]

hd 560s are seinheiser right?

[sly warren]

Yes.

One of the only good HD 500 series headphones out there actually.

[sand igloo]

design is great on the 560s

[sly warren]

The 560S is an excellent all-rounder can that can do just about anything well

Gaming, Music, Movies, etc.

They do need a bit of oomph to drive, a Meizu Dongle can drive them, but it's preferred to have an Amp and DAC stack to get the full potential.

It's not like you are going to lose anything using a Meizu Dongle with the 560S's but the power will leave a bit to be desired.

[sand igloo]

i'm currently using the razer kraken x's. they get the job done but the bass is a bit weak

[sly warren]

If you really like the SLAM of Bass, get some CAL SEs

And a Meizu Dongle.