peripherals-and-displays

[daring zenith]

Not 68%

[tight pulsar]

it is

its a 68 key 65%

[daring zenith]

What the hell

:p

[tacit wing]

sub X amount of dollars buying guide for pre-built keebs pinned would be a huge help

bc not alot wants to get into custom

[daring zenith]

I'm a keychron advocate

[tight pulsar]

you can have a normal 65 key with the 4 nav keys above the arrow keys or a 68 key or 660 one with 2 like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PGzdUn_LZcM/hqdefault.jpg

[tacit wing]

mind if i do the classic RJN

[tight pulsar]

wuts that

[timber ridge]

for mice help

how to measure your hand

[tacit wing]

yes we dont want no hulk hand lookin mf getting a Viper Mini can we

[tight pulsar]

wait lmao is it loading the full pic for anybody

[tacit wing]

naw its scuffed

[timber ridge]

oof

[granite furnace]

not loading fo rme

[tight pulsar]

lol i didnt give it enough time to load

[timber ridge]

is it scuffed in my message too?

[tight pulsar]

no

im resending it rn

[timber ridge]

kk

[daring zenith]

Tbh we're prob gonna fill the pinned section by the time we're done today

[tight pulsar]

theres a 50 pin limit so probably not

[timber ridge]

ghosty would prob appreciate having the q2u in the pinned messages lol

[tight pulsar]

types of mouse grips

[tacit wing]

Discord is taking a dookie as we speak

ok nice

[tight pulsar]

how to measure your hand size for mice

[daring zenith]

We should compile a list of good prebuilt keebs tho

[tacit wing]

all we need is a buying guide for prebuilt Keebs and thatll do it tbh

for X amount of dollars

[tight pulsar]

theres not really a great guide for it that i know of

[daring zenith]

Like we should make one ourselves >:D

[tight pulsar]

but yeah theres a bunch of more advanced things i could add like ai03s pcb stuff and others but ill probably just throw the basics up

[timber ridge]

$100+ - leopold, $70 - keychron, $50 - eppomaker/royalkludge for prebuilts

[tacit wing]

@daring zenith make a propaganda of why Keychrons should be the default pre-built everyone should buy

[granite furnace]

it's simple. do they have experience with mechanical keyboards? yes > get what you like. no > start with browns

[timber ridge]

kuzu could make anti 6xx propaganda lmao

[daring zenith]

Get keychron keeb

@tacit wing discord oppressing keychron smh

[tacit wing]

yes Discord servers are taking a dookie rn one of my messages aint sent either

[granite furnace]

I'll hate on the 6XX too

[tacit wing]

oh naw

[daring zenith]

Hehe

[granite furnace]

lol

not a fan of the Sennheiser house sound. I think the 6XX is overrated

[timber ridge]

fortnut would be proud

[tight pulsar]

tell drop to come out with the 7xx already :p

[tacit wing]

they have

and completely forgotten

[daring zenith]

@timber ridge tbh keychron is more like 70$-100$ after shipping

[tight pulsar]

thats the k7xx tho

[daring zenith]

From 50$ c2 to like 80$ k8

[timber ridge]

true

[cunning hearth]

keychron

[granite furnace]

there are things in the works. that's all I can say

[timber ridge]

thats like a very rough guide

[tight pulsar]

🤔

[tacit wing]

anyone who doesnt like mids and like subbass would obviously not like the 6xx i can see that. not every headphone can fit into someone's preferences in sig

[daring zenith]

Rough is good enough

[tacit wing]

but to call it overrated is daft bc nothing in its price range attacks upper mids like the 6x0

[granite furnace]

for sure. I don't active discourage people from getting it. I just think there's a lot of hype around it

and it's easy to get sucked in

I tell people to try it alongside other options, if at all possible

I had a friend read all the stuff online and he was convinced it was for him

[tight pulsar]

sounds a lot like hps in the keyboard scene ngl

[granite furnace]

but I had him try a bunch of headphones alongside the 6xx

and turns out he didn't like it

[timber ridge]

thats what happened to kuzu

he waited the super long drop shipping

[daring zenith]

rip kuzu tho

[timber ridge]

and was super hype, got them then found out his ear are too sensitive to treble

tragic story

[tight pulsar]

didnt he say he didnt like their sound before he bought them

[cunning hearth]

but 6xx arent even treble heavy

[timber ridge]

kuzu likes his low ends n stuff

idk what made him get em

[granite furnace]

but I also like Grados, so there's that

[cunning hearth]

[tight pulsar]

lol and he had the phantoms he got for like the same price

[tacit wing]

i was confused why Kuzu got 6xx's in the first place bc he told me he likes subbass and im like..????

that doesnt make sense so i already had an inkling he wont like them

and lo and behold

[timber ridge]

yea and kuzu is informed about audio stuff

[tight pulsar]

hm these penguins feel interesting

[timber ridge]

like he knew what he was getting and he knows what he likes

[tight pulsar]

probably help to put them in a full board

[daring zenith]

hype op

[granite furnace]

the hype man

[cunning hearth]

what

[daring zenith]

weird words from nachos is 99% some switch

[cunning hearth]

oh a switch

[tacit wing]

its not about hype, the hype around 6x0 makes sense. nothing competes with mids that under 1k really except Aeolus. doesn't have quite the eveness and balance but more resolution and dynamics.

[tight pulsar]

supposed to be like ergo clears

[cunning hearth]

ic why its called penguin

[tacit wing]

the reason why people are dissappointed is bc they dont like mids

theyre more into the v-shape consumerfi sig or bright headphones

[timber ridge]

i really wanna try mid centric cans but i needa pick up a pair of "safe" cans first

[cunning hearth]

4xx

[granite furnace]

I just don't think recommendations take preference into account often enough

[cunning hearth]

but bad qa

aaaa

[tacit wing]

it depends on the person giving the recommendation

[granite furnace]

absolutely. but the general buying guides don't do that

[tacit wing]

also warm/neutral cans like the 6xx is like a very safe sig that doesnt really offend

[tight pulsar]

if i see another gasket mount 65% with a blocker im gonna have a mental breakdown

[timber ridge]

giving recommendations can be hard lowkey depending on what it is and who it is

[granite furnace]

I still think they are overrated. I'm allowed to be wrong

[glass bear]

gasket

[timber ridge]

sometimes i have trouble deciding to recommend something theyre used to or something that is safe to recommend

[granite furnace]

I know recommendations to random people on the internet often boils down to budget and brand recognition. it's difficult to be more nuanced about it

[west hornet]

it is really the best thing to go out and try yourself but unfortunately not everyone can especially in these times, then there is also the fact that many people don't know what their preference is

[swift lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-lover-awww-puppy-love-gif-19978366

[brisk parcel]

y'all talkin headphone and didn't mention me

I totally understand why people don't like the 6XX and even other sennheiser headsets

personally I love the intimacy for a lot of songs, and I also have the 5XX for other things as well

still wanna sell my 58X and grab 6XXs

and I still want the GL2000s but my tiktok didn't go viral 😦

[sand igloo]

what are the best budget speakers for a pc

less than 40 USD preferably

[swift lantern]

I didn't even send that

I but dialed that thank the Lord it was something like that

[glass bear]

red switches are the way

at first i was a little iffy but coming from blues these are amazing

[swift lantern]

6xx?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-bold-and-brash-more-like-belongs-in-the-trash-gif-15786791

[vernal plinth]

Well i like the 6xx

[high fulcrum]

Keebs?

[tight pulsar]

no

[glass bear]

what is it with 6xx

[swift lantern]

it bad

[rugged lion]

i heard it was very good

someone named like kuzu told me it

[west hornet]

6xx is a fine budget headphone

[gloomy berry]

IDK, I like my HyperX Revolvers.

leaves before I get shot

[swift lantern]

6xx users be like

bro I love cloth sound

[west hornet]

Lol

Everyone has their opinions

[gloomy berry]

I mean, my home theater is great

My headphones, meh

They work well enough

Not as punchy down low as I'd like

BUt they are crisp. And without using separate drivers, it's hard to get punchy lows and crisp highs without sacrificing something

[tacit wing]

Your sinful soul is beyond salvation and you do not know peace and pain, only the cold of emptiness.

[swift lantern]

no actually I quite enjoy music

I'm doing fine thanks for asking

[west hornet]

My home theater is nice but ehh for music, but I also wasnt the one that set it up. Would like to invest in some speakers eventually

[gloomy berry]

I have so many different speaker sizes with crossovers lol. Everything is nice and clear

Klipsch towers and surrounds with a Definitive Audio center and a Polk 12" sub

Do it. it's SOOOOO worth it

Good speakers for movies and music is amazeballs

[west hornet]

Just trying to figure out all the funding needed this year and hopeful income. But it’s in the plan

[gloomy berry]

nice!!!! We've been on Craigslist speaker specials for about 10 years now

Finally upgraded this year

IDK what your budget is but Klipsch and Definitive Technology are great middle road speakers.

[west hornet]

Lol that’s good, I finally got a receiver replacement just last year so we can get surround in that room working haha, and I’ll take a look

[gloomy berry]

Sweet!

I need to upgrade our Denon

It still works but missing some features I'd like

Plus, who doesn't like spun copper cones??

[swift lantern]

kinda wish there were a proper "audiophile" bluetooth speaker that didn't cost an arm and a leg

[gloomy berry]

Define arm and a leg?

[queen sigil]

no

[gloomy berry]

I've got a UE3 Boom and it sounds pretty good for a little thing. Use it outside when working.

[wild sparrow]

you will never get something that is considered audiophile that is bluetooth driven

as bluetooth degrades the audio quality significantly via compression

[swift lantern]

Uh oh you made an oopsie

You said "never" about something technology related

[wild sparrow]

it wont be bluetooth if its wireless

as bluetooth simply doesnt have the bandwidth available to drive true "audiophile" class sound

[swift lantern]

I mean we already have ldac, that's perfect

[glass bear]

Why does everyone need to have an opinion on them though

Y'all talk about 6xx like it boutta run for president and give trump a run for his money

[queen sigil]

i think its just like

mainly kuso

kuzu

[wild sparrow]

wait as in HD 6XX headphones?

I have a pair, they are amazing

[tacit wing]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

i really dont see why some people here think otherwise bc theyre not at all a polarizing set of headphones

[wild sparrow]

honestly for the money I recommend. but I also realize their limits, thats why I have a dedicated speaker and sub system for anything outside their abilities

[tacit wing]

their limits being lack of bass extension yeah

[wild sparrow]

if you are looking for bass get closed back

[tacit wing]

CALS or Teaks are on my sights

gotta go biodyna for the slam

[wild sparrow]

if I want bass I got a 10 inch sub a foot and a half from my left

[tacit wing]

must be nice to not have roomates

[wild sparrow]

I have roommates, I just picked the room of the house that best diffuses the sound travel to the rest of the house via the wall angles

I also generally keep the sound levels down. a 10x10 room with 500 watts peak power is a bit unnecessary to have the system up

now if I was gonna overhaul my desk sound system I would go a pair of elac bookshelfs with a middle channel and a 10 inch sub thats I can tune

probably the Uni-fi UB5's

[swift lantern]

they're just bad m8

that sennheiser veil is awful

I cannot understand how you would ever prefer it

ever

[wild sparrow]

ok ill bite, what do you prefer in a 250ish dollar headphone?

[swift lantern]

no veil

[wild sparrow]

that doesnt give me a model to compare

[swift lantern]

my headphones msrp is more than $250

but I got them for the same price as 6xx

[wild sparrow]

thats great. bravo

the price point still stands

[swift lantern]

Ok if I were to put it this way

I prefer the $50 tin t2 over the 6xx

because there's no veil

[wild sparrow]

and I prefer a 2000 dollar standing floor speaker set up in a 7.2. but we get what we get

[swift lantern]

I don't have much else in the exact price range to compare to

I know not all of them are gonna have that veil though

preferably, none of them

[wild sparrow]

you are also the first person ive seen reference a veil

[swift lantern]

i'd heard it referenced somewhere else before or else I wouldn't know what to call it

[wild sparrow]

so apparently to get whad you would want you would need to go with HD600's or HD580's for a no veil

or like 400i's

ok the only veil i can find that referenced is a slight trade of vocal clarity and certain frequency for increased bass output

[tacit wing]

650 being "veiled" is a meme

[wild sparrow]

from what I can tell, it was done on purpose to make a difference in the headphone lineup they provide

otherwise things begin to feel samey

[tacit wing]

but you right what you said about the 600's and 580's tho, also less of that bass bloat

differences across the line in the 6x0 lineup is marginal, theyre more or less the same headphone

660s the most different out of all of them, in a bad way

[wild sparrow]

biggest difference would be from the speaker stage (closed, semi, open)

[tacit wing]

the thing with 6x0 is that they dont even stage like an open-back, its below average

[swift lantern]

yeah, none to be found

oh well, that's in the past and I have my own cans

[wild sparrow]

eeeh looking at high end audio is dangerous

I dont need to be spending 1200 on audio setups right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahuW0LB7wQk

[tacit wing]

yes you do

[wild sparrow]

its like 900 for the speakers alone

[tacit wing]

yes

[wild sparrow]

300ish for the powered sub

and then finding a decent receiver that isnt mega huge to run it

[wild sparrow]

do they even make good compact recievers that can run 3.1?

[tacit wing]

this needs to be pinned somewhere

[swift lantern]

thank you for stealing my thougt

:GunLeft:

darn nitro broke

[wild sparrow]

yea, looking at the gear needed...it would be like a 1800 dollar purchase

[tacit wing]

trying to justify an expensive purchase

[wild sparrow]

the speakers would last forever though

[swift lantern]

LET THE RECORD SHOW

[wild sparrow]

if Z reviews says those elacs are amazing. I tend to believe him

[tacit wing]

bruh thats not even your tweet

i saw it on my TL and thought the same i swear

no more 6xx slander on this channel

[small nimbus]

obvious photoshop

[swift lantern]

SCROLL UP

go find it

wait let me just

#peripherals-and-displays message

[calm cobalt]

I mean hard to slander a bad part

[calm cobalt]

Being more detailed, faster, wider (still not wide though)?

[swift lantern]

if it doesn't have the veil it's automatically better

although for the size, comfort, etc, it's NOT worth the price I don't care who you are I will die on this hill

[tacit wing]

technical attributes like those doesnt make a better headphone bc the sacrifice for better detail comes with worse tuning than the other 6x0 counterparts

[swift lantern]

Is it really though

[tacit wing]

also if i prioritize any of those stuff id get planars over dynamic headphones

[swift lantern]

Yeah just get planars

You're right

Do you enjoy (x), get planars

[tacit wing]

660s a step back in tonality with a buff in detail over 6x0

[swift lantern]

Makes me wonder

[stoic solar]

#peripherals-and-displays message @west hornet

[daring zenith]

I don't see how Keychron is too serious

The keycaps just look clean

not like ibm or anything

not completely black like office dell keebs

[stoic solar]

imagine being poor and not using jellykeys for every cap

[west hornet]

ahh i see some camellia, nanahira and t+pazolite nice

[rugged lion]

ayo lets go just got banned off arkeys discord for telling him his prices are dumb and hes stupid

[stoic solar]

who they lol

[calm cobalt]

well

it is time

for me to pluck all the keys off my keyboard

to clean it

this is gonna take awhile cause its so hard to get out

[last plinth]

https://drop.com/buy/domikey-abs-doubleshot-sa-cyberpunk-pumper-keycap-set?utm_placement=0&referer=2G3MJA&mode=guest_open&utm_campaign=Automated Daily Promotional 2021-01-19&utm_source=SparkPost&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily Promotional&utm_content=1611059981554.269367864126639843917505

[calm cobalt]

im done

its disgusting

[tight pulsar]

just get a keycap puller it takes like 3 minutes lol

[calm cobalt]

i dont have one lol

how much are they

heres my disgusting ahh keyboard

i need one of those line

pressurized cans of air

that spray air so i can clean it easier

[brisk parcel]

women are evil

so how do I cope?

I buy more audio stuff of course

[queen sigil]

tiktok

https://youtu.be/h9pzwKJx3_E?t=164

[last plinth]

no u listen to music all night and make yourself some food

[wicked topaz]

whats a good mechanical keyboard?

i have a budget of about 150 moneys

[queen sigil]

thats a good bit of money

[rugged lion]

custom or prebuilt

[queen sigil]

probs prebuilt lol

[wicked topaz]

idk much about keyboards so yeah

[rugged lion]

gk61x, jwk recolored, hk keycaps thats like 150 wdym?

[wicked topaz]

pebuilt

[queen sigil]

no i mean like

most people wont want to build a custom one

[rugged lion]

u could easily also cheap out and get milky yellows and just lube them

lorenz do u want custom or prebuilt

[wicked topaz]

i have no idea what any of that means...

[rugged lion]

im not recommending it yet just saying

[wicked topaz]

uhhhh

[rugged lion]

custom would be hotswap prob

recommend custom its easier than u think

u pop some switches in and u pop the keycaps on and boom it works

[queen sigil]

lol simple answer get a keychon, leopold, or varmillo keyboard

[wicked topaz]

if i get a custom one, do i built it myself?

[rugged lion]

yeah

[queen sigil]

yes

its like building a pc

except simple

[rugged lion]

but gk61x comes with a case and pcb

and iirc i think it comes with foam

and a plate

[brisk parcel]

@queen sigil lmao tiktok

well ur not wrong

[rugged lion]

so u kinda jkust put the switches in and keycaps in

[queen sigil]

[wicked topaz]

oh cool

so its relatively easy?

[rugged lion]

if u want a prebuilt, be lame and get a keychron varmilo or leopold

if u wanna be alpha

custom

yeah its easy

[wicked topaz]

cool

[rugged lion]

if u can do basic human functions u can do it

[wicked topaz]

but then i have to pick all the parts myself

[rugged lion]

eh

[wicked topaz]

and i dont have a clue

[rugged lion]

i can help u if u want

[wicked topaz]

yes please

[rugged lion]

okay u said 150?

[wicked topaz]

yeah

[rugged lion]

is that firm or...

[wicked topaz]

i can probably push it up to 200

thats it though

[rugged lion]

if u can push it up to 200, get an nk65ee, (switches we need to figure out), and hk gaming keycaps

for the switches, linear tactile or clicky?

[queen sigil]

nk65

[wicked topaz]

uhh, the ones that are the most silent

[rugged lion]

nk65 still best budget board beside portico

[wicked topaz]

tactile?

[queen sigil]

yeah

[rugged lion]

30 dollars more

[queen sigil]

i mean kbd65lite

[rugged lion]

linear and tactiles, do u want silent linears/silent tactiles?

[queen sigil]

id say is better then 65ee

just because the case is gonna be alot better

carrying case*

[wicked topaz]

whats the diference?...

[rugged lion]

between what

[queen sigil]

and the screw in stabs

[rugged lion]

oh my gosh the carrying case

[queen sigil]

apparently the 65ee carrying case

was garbage

[rugged lion]

bro

i literally have it

its fine

[wicked topaz]

between tactiles or linears

[queen sigil]

https://keyboard.university/

[rugged lion]

tactiles: as u press it theres a tactile bump at the beginning
linear: its just a smooth even press

keyboard university will definitely help u learn a bit

[wicked topaz]

then tactile

[queen sigil]

https://keyboard.university/100-courses/switches-101

[rugged lion]

also u need to look at size

Tactile: has a tactile bump during the keypress before bottom-out

Linear: has an smooth keypress with no tactile bump

Clicky: has a tactile bump and an audible click sound

[wicked topaz]

yeah tactile

[rugged lion]

theres variations in each category

silent tactile or tactile

[wicked topaz]

is normal tactile loud?

[rugged lion]

ehhh

[queen sigil]

i dont like that chart

[rugged lion]

what are u worried about?

[rugged lion]

not ideal

[queen sigil]

it includes 1800 for some reason

[rugged lion]

i had a really good one but i lost it

[queen sigil]

but not like

96%

[wicked topaz]

and does making it silent more expensive?

[rugged lion]

doesnt mention 70% either

[rugged lion]

well

boba u4s are probably the move rn for silent tactiles

[queen sigil]

apparently the kbd67 comes with one of theses

https://kbdfans.com/collections/carrying-case/products/gb-60-65-keyboard-carrying-case

at least the 67lite

[rugged lion]

that looks the same as the nk65 carrying case i have

[queen sigil]

I asked support lol

[rugged lion]

just it has nk on it

its 20$ for 30 switches

if u got 60% thatll be like 40-60 dollars

[queen sigil]

the nk65ee case has like

no padding

[rugged lion]

bro its a carrying case

[wicked topaz]

probably tkl

[rugged lion]

oof

u werent supposed to say that

[wicked topaz]

oh

[queen sigil]

portico ends in like 3 days

[rugged lion]

lol

[wicked topaz]

why?

[rugged lion]

portico is 65%

[queen sigil]

keychron c1 and replace the switches

[rugged lion]

yeah honestly

theres no budget hotswap 80%

u were supposed to say 60% or 65% lol

[queen sigil]

rgb C1 doesnt exist

white hotswap is 55$ for hotswap white backlight

[wicked topaz]

uhhh

65% - 60% is a bit smol

[queen sigil]

u can get a keychron c1 if you dont need RGB

[wicked topaz]

whats wrong with getting a prebuilt?

like the Varmilo VA87M seems good

[queen sigil]

varmillo is a good brand

varmillo has nice looking keyboards

but I like leopolds

[rugged lion]

not the best bang for buck also switch options are doo doo

varmilo is neat

[wicked topaz]

how much would a custom tkl be?

[stoic solar]

i like my sakura

[queen sigil]

i mean you can modify

a keychron

but ive never tried one of their lower end keyboards

[wicked topaz]

what about a leopold FC750R

[queen sigil]

i like leopolds

but their switch collection isnt the best

[rugged lion]

hotswap or solder?

[wicked topaz]

hotswap

[rugged lion]

hotswap tkl board

geez

[wicked topaz]

: /

[timber ridge]

https://prevailkeyco.com/products/monstargear-alu-xo-k80?variant=38606429913239

[rugged lion]

rakk lam ang pro, id87, gk87, k87

[timber ridge]

this gb is up rn

[rugged lion]

gk87 is the only solid budget option

id87 is solid but 180$

once u go past like 65% (upwards in size) it gets very expensive and rare for hotswap boards to exist jkinda

[queen sigil]

lance wth

we talking about like 150USD boards

[timber ridge]

i didnt see budget

a lot of budget hotswap tkl kits have floating keys

kind of a yikes

[wicked topaz]

: /

then i might just get the Varmilo VA87M

if i can find it somewhere that ships to Europe...

[timber ridge]

does a 75% not have what you want?

[tacit wing]

bruh LMAO

[timber ridge]

id80 is a nice budget kit

man

is that in headphoen hq

[queen sigil]

ah yes

im not audio person

but it not supposed to go through his ear

[rugged lion]

75%

[wicked topaz]

Huh

Its a tkl

[queen sigil]

75% im pretty sure are 84

not 87

[tight pulsar]

84 could be tkl or 75

[queen sigil]

[rugged lion]

no

im saying do u want a tkl

[wicked topaz]

Ye

[rugged lion]

no wait

im saying do u want 75%

[wicked topaz]

no

i want a tkl

[rugged lion]

then u gotta spend a lot for hotswap

[wicked topaz]

yeah then ima prob get a prebuilt...

[rugged lion]

go for it

smells like broke in here

-sent from my id80v2 with tealios and aftermarket gmk spirit

[wicked topaz]

ok

[rugged lion]

lol

get like a varmilo board i'd say

[tight pulsar]

dunno man smells like overpaying in here

[queen sigil]

droq moment

droq with his turquoise tealios

[daring zenith]

Keychron moment

[wicked topaz]

yeah i might get the Varmilo VA87M if i can find it somewere that ships to spain...

[rugged lion]

living in spain without the s

[wicked topaz]

i have heard that joke to many times

[west hornet]

lol i’m wearing those iem rn

[daring zenith]

Keychron K8 and then swap some things out is still an option

[wicked topaz]

is the normal k8 good

cause that seems like a good deal

[queen sigil]

I mean keychron keyboards are all p good imo

but I recommend the c1 if you arent gonna get an alu k8

[wicked topaz]

is the k8 better that the Varmilo VA87M?

[unique sparrow]

Whats a good mouse?

New to buying them

Same with keyboards

[tacit wing]

refer to the pinned messages and tell me what you fall under

[timber ridge]

thank god for pinned messages

[unique sparrow]

I believe im extended finger

[tacit wing]

so i believe that FK shapes will suit best for you, how small or big are your hands?

[unique sparrow]

I have fairly normal hands

[tacit wing]

ok the most budget option that can work is the Viper Mini

and its not even budget its a top tier mouse with a budget price

also Endgame XM1 will work for extended fingertip, the buttons are low to the ground

Model O mice as well

[timber ridge]

he could be using extended finger grip bc of his mouse

[tight pulsar]

yes pins nice

[timber ridge]

i can see how someone with something like a g502 could be using extended over reg ftip grip

[unique sparrow]

I have this one atm https://www.msi.com/Gaming-Gear/CLUTCH-GM08

Actually

[tacit wing]

yup, get an FK clone. you dont need that mass of a hump if you fingertip

[unique sparrow]

I think im just palm grip

[tacit wing]

[unique sparrow]

Yes

Ik

Mb lol

[timber ridge]

heres another pic of grip types

[unique sparrow]

Yes

Palm

Mb

Imma dumbass

[tacit wing]

Model D, G-Wolves Skoll, DA V2, EC1 or EC2, Pwnage Ultra Custom Ergo

these may be large mice for "normal" hands

but its great for palm

[sly warren]

Or if your hands are freakish like mine, you could get a Model O Wireless and palm that.

[timber ridge]

doesnt xtrfy have an ergo option?

[sly warren]

(Seriously, I can palm a Razer Viper)

[tacit wing]

M4

its pretty weird, its an original shape by them

atleast its not an EC clone

[timber ridge]

yea, bit wonky

[sly warren]

You could also look at the xtrify MZ1

[tacit wing]

i can also palm my Viper but ergos are more optimized for palm

[sly warren]

Yeah, and I can only barely palm my Viper.

[tacit wing]

FK shape caters towards fingertippers

[sly warren]

It's just barely long enough.

I claw it typically.

And when I get my MOW I'll claw that too

[timber ridge]

i wanna wait a bit b4 pulling the trigger on a mow

[sly warren]

Jeez, how much longer do you want to wait?

[timber ridge]

prob like a few weeks

[sly warren]

It's been out for 3 months now.

[timber ridge]

and my viper mini is still doing really good

i also prioritize audio stuff over mice stuff

[sly warren]

I'm mostly waiting because of paychecks and stuff.

[timber ridge]

i recently cashed out, so i need some recovery time lol

[sly warren]

I really wish I drove an EV or Hybrid right now.

[unique sparrow]

Why?

[sly warren]

It'd severely lower my driving costs.

[timber ridge]

what do you drive rn ?

[sly warren]

2013 Mazda 3

~33 MPG

I drive till I hit about 1/4th of a tank left.

[timber ridge]

thats p good

[sly warren]

And so, that's about a 19 dollar fill up every 2 weeks on average.

[timber ridge]

if i picked up a heresy i would of ordered a mow already

[sly warren]

I mean, do you really need a Magni or Modi?

What cans are you trying to drive?

[timber ridge]

im picking up dt880s for sure then a more neutral pair of cans later downt he road

[sly warren]

Yikes.

I'd just start straight up with HD 560S's

Or K361's

[west hornet]

560s seem nice, idk how it compare to 880 tho

[timber ridge]

i might invest in new iem cables too

[sly warren]

Why?

[timber ridge]

stock cables with the oh10 are kinda meh

[sly warren]

IEM cables are snake oil.

Just use them until they die.

[timber ridge]

and i might pick up one with a 4.4

and dt880s are my "safe" headphones

sound sig is something im familiar with

[sly warren]

DT880's are "safe" for you? Jeez

[timber ridge]

havent owned or tried a pair of neutral cans

[sly warren]

Start with Koss UR40's then.

[tacit wing]

have you ever thought to let ppl make their own decisions

it aint that hard

[timber ridge]

second pair of cans will either be 400i 2020s, 6xx, or sundaras

unless drop releases something new by the time i needa upgrade

[swift lantern]

[tacit wing]

choose between 6x0 or Sundaras bc theres no point of having the 400i there if you can get Sundies

[timber ridge]

tru

ill only do 400is if theyre discounted

[swift lantern]

Yeah so just go with Sundara

[timber ridge]

ive seen them around 140ish

new

[swift lantern]

If it's down between the Sundara and the bad, obviously just get the Sundara

But know that it will likely be a bit cold out the box

[timber ridge]

sundaras will probably be endgame ngl

i prob wont be buying any cans afterwards

[tight pulsar]

yes join the club

[timber ridge]

still dont hav a dac yet tho

lowkey wanted silver, but didnt wanna spend 20 bucks extra

[tacit wing]

atom dac and call it a day

[timber ridge]

im done deciding

[tight pulsar]

wait does that have se

[timber ridge]

jus waiting on my sister to put in the order for me

yup

[west hornet]

lol kudzu

[tight pulsar]

you going balanced or se

[timber ridge]

se for now

ima slowly transition over

[tight pulsar]

ic

[tacit wing]

4.4 pentaconn on the a50s right?

[timber ridge]

yup

[tacit wing]

ur gonna need an interconnect if you switching to balanced

[tight pulsar]

4.4 what now

[tacit wing]

the balanced headphone out on the a50s is 4.4mm Pentaconn

[timber ridge]

dt880 cables are non detachable right

[tacit wing]

SE is typically quarter inch, Balance outs are typically 4.4 or XLR

[glass bear]

are all keyboard switches a little wobbly?

like my old keyboard was pretty bad but this one is a lot better

[tight pulsar]

is pentaconn like a brand or just standard

[west hornet]

razer are wobble wobble

[tacit wing]

naw its just a name for 4.4 outputs lol

[tight pulsar]

yeah all switches have some wobble

[tacit wing]

idk where the name came from

[glass bear]

my keyboard is just a budget huntsman mini

oh ok

[queen sigil]

lmao what

[timber ridge]

if hte l30 didnt blow up i would of still picked one up

big rips to that

[queen sigil]

define a budget huntsman mini

lmao

[tacit wing]

if the serial number starts with 2011 its an explosive device

otherwise its good

[timber ridge]

yeye

didnt wanna risk it tho

and at 150 its kinda steep

[west hornet]

I thought pentaconn was a company

[glass bear]

it looks like a huntsman mini

and has rgb that isnt as good as the huntsman mini but still pretty good

[timber ridge]

you basically have a huntsman mini

[glass bear]

also no optical switches but that isnt really a big deal

[timber ridge]

you jus didnt spend like 70 bucks more on a logo

[queen sigil]

so you have a 60% keyboard

[glass bear]

yep and i also get wireless

[queen sigil]

Its literally

[west hornet]

full size best

[queen sigil]

not a huntsman mini

what are you talking about

[swift lantern]

[granite furnace]

at least you have switch testers and tons of switch options. it's a good problem to have

[tight pulsar]

these new gmk trays are annoying

[rugged lion]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103849.0

joining in for base kit and deskmat wbu?

[timber ridge]

darker alphas

cursed

[queen sigil]

icongraphic

looks like a keycap set you'd see on a ducky one two mini

dark mods>literally everything else

unless the alphas are black or soemthing

[timber ridge]

idk how gmk matcha made it pass ic phase

matcha mocha *

[queen sigil]

lmao

[timber ridge]

gmk shrek

[queen sigil]

gmk poop

[timber ridge]

gmk devoted looks like a reverse taro kinda

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

what is that

[queen sigil]

PBT R&R

man i REALLY want those blurple keycaps to be a thing

[timber ridge]

if they had all white mods and legends

and have pink and blue alphas be 2 separate things

[stoic solar]

i like that

[timber ridge]

it would be decent

[stoic solar]

if it had white

[queen sigil]

i would pay

[stoic solar]

bisexual keeb

[queen sigil]

good money for this

darker alphas but it still looks so nice

[west hornet]

Woah those look so pretty

[stoic solar]

discord keeb

[timber ridge]

yea that looks decent

[queen sigil]

exactally

[stoic solar]

a while back i would have actually worn discord merch

#7289DA

is blurple

[timber ridge]

gmk civilization can look super good with the right kit

[stoic solar]

but they discontinued the shirt

[timber ridge]

pain

[queen sigil]

lance do u know when kbd67lite is shipping

is it still like

mid march

[timber ridge]

not sure

my tracking # expired apparently

https://mechsandco.com/

theyre getting a lot of nice keycaps

[queen sigil]

I mean they arent shippinh it

[timber ridge]

agent 01, devoted, lazurite and civilization

[queen sigil]

so why would you have a tracking number

[timber ridge]

idk

i didnt get that message for any of my other orders

my kono order status is on ready to ship, kbd is on expired lol

[stoic solar]

would have worn this

[timber ridge]

looks like a nice sleeping shirt lol

[stoic solar]

ikr

that was what i was going to use it for

but then i realized i dont like shirts when i sleep

so

and now they dont make it anymore

[timber ridge]

you sleep shirtless?

[tacit wing]

[timber ridge]

forgot ima have to buy textbooks n stuff

[stoic solar]

and pantsless

[timber ridge]

doesnt ur chest get cold

i cant sleep shirtless bc of that

[stoic solar]

no because i have people next to me sometimes and for the times i dont my bed is warm enough

[timber ridge]

gg

[wicked topaz]

bruh the Varmilo VA87M is out of stock literally in every eu website

holdup

i dont know much about keyboards

are the cherry mx clears any good?

[swift lantern]

[wicked topaz]

I take that as a no...

reeeeeeeeeee

[tight pulsar]

if you want to get a workout every time you use your keyboard sure

[wicked topaz]

lol ok i get the message

then i guess i can't get the Varmilo VA87M

: (

[queen sigil]

keychron

leopold

[wicked topaz]

can you recommend any from keychron?

[queen sigil]

c1

k8

[tacit wing]

this man is Michael Phelps

[queen sigil]

wdym

[tight pulsar]

bonk

[little crater]

pink

[small nimbus]

gimme gimmie

[clear lichen]

Anyone here try the COWIN E8s?

I hear they're pretty good cheap headphones

but I've also heard negative things about size and sound leakage

[neon quartz]

fortnut#7992 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick plank]

You mean slightly better bass extension and slightly more flat mids? That's called being better in spite of neither being remotely good for the price

[thick plank]

There are 2 good options there and one all around bad option

cough cough 6xx is the bad one cough cough

[tacit wing]

[west hornet]

cough cough you could also help someone asking a question rather than arguing the same thing for several months cough cough

[tacit wing]

naaw my social interaction with ppl only consist of disagreeing with people just for the sake of disagreeing with people, while in tandem, spreading misinformation

[thick plank]

Very ironic seeing as I still haven't made any false claims while you continually called the 5xx not a deva and said it is more detailed and wider than a 400i

And claimed the 58x is not a 559 driver with a changed voice coil cause z reviews said it's a 660

Lmao

[tacit wing]

i have acknowledged the 5xx are Devas

[thick plank]

Doesn't change that you are accusing the guy who corrected you ok things you were objectively wrong on and tried to spread of spreading misinfo

And doesn't change how ironic that is

[tacit wing]

my acknowledgment of the 5xx being Devas came from watching Resolve doing a full breakdown of both headphones and i sure wouldnt take it from some guy in a Newegg server

youre not correcting anyone

[candid vale]

Could someone help me with my lighting with the fans inside of my computer or direct me to someone that could? Please & Thank you

[tacit wing]

#old-cooling folks might able to help you out @candid vale

[candid vale]

Ok thanks 🙂

I have a problem with my headset that I do not know how to fix without extension cables

I have a microphone that plugs directly into my headphones but I can’t get it to work for my games that I play

[tacit wing]

what is the headset and microphone were working with here?

is the microphone something of this nature?

[candid vale]

i don't know the exact name but it is a turtle beach headset

[tacit wing]

what is in that hole lol

and how does your microphone connect to that headset

[candid vale]

The hole is where the mic goes

[tacit wing]

via 3.5?

[tacit wing]

check device manager if your PC recognized a recording device

[candid vale]

I got the headset a while ago and I don’t have what it is

[candid vale]

What would it be under?

[tacit wing]

does the headset connect via USB or splitter?

wait lets see how the headset is connected first

[tacit wing]

how is the headset connected to your rig

USB or splitter?

[candid vale]

Splitter?

[tacit wing]

if its only one headphone jack it needs to be a 3 pole for the mic input

[candid vale]

Oh

[tacit wing]

lol

[candid vale]

That is all that it has, I usually use it with controller and it works fine

[tacit wing]

is the end of that cable 3 pole?

[small nimbus]

dino helpinh

[tacit wing]

oh well youre good to go

[candid vale]

Wdym?

[tacit wing]

check this tab to see if windows recognizes it

right click on the audio icon on the bottom right corner

and go to sounds

also try plugging it directly into your mobo instead of your front panel

[candid vale]

Yah

[tacit wing]

front panel can get stinky sometimes

[candid vale]

Ok

There is what it says for that one

[tacit wing]

o GOD realtek

[candid vale]

Hmm?

There are 3 different colored ports in the back of the computer, which one?

It’s that or the 2 at the top :/

[tacit wing]

wait hold up return it back to your front panel

check if your mic gain is even up

lol

[candid vale]

hmm?

where?

[tacit wing]

right click on stereo mix > properties

then go to levels

[candid vale]

thhere is one thing saying 100

[tacit wing]

your mic gain is at 100?

if it is update your realtek drivers

[tacit wing]

go to listen tab and check the box Listen to this Device

[candid vale]

ok, i did

[tacit wing]

can you hear ur self

through your headset

[candid vale]

No

[tacit wing]

is your headset plugged at the front panel where the headset icon is at?

if it is and it still no workie, update realtek drivers

[candid vale]

My headset mic is on, volume is turned up, computer volume is on and I no hear nothing

[tacit wing]

google your motherboard's model and go to the manufacturers support site

just like where you got your stuff setup when you built your PC

[candid vale]

Mhm, built, definitely

[tacit wing]

o GOD dont tell me its NZXT BLD

[candid vale]

hmm?

[daring zenith]

Looks like nzxt case

[tacit wing]

if its a pre-built then its most likely drivers not installed properly or theres no drivers at all lol

[candid vale]

oh

[tacit wing]

did it work before?

[candid vale]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala224/p/N82E16883360021?Item=N82E16883360021&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-83-360-021-_-01082021

[tacit wing]

or was it not working out of the box

[candid vale]

That’s the computer that I got

I couldent figure out how to make it work but I could take out my mic and plug it into a separate outlet and it would work

[tacit wing]

oh boy, contact Newegg support

[candid vale]

They said to go to abs

[tacit wing]

not trying to voidnyour warranty LOL

[candid vale]

And I went to abs and their contact us support page is non existent

[tacit wing]

dm @fallow glacier

[candid vale]

There are links to it and it just brings you to a this page does not exist go back to abs.com

Ok

thanks for the help

[tacit wing]

no worries man, i would help you out further but im not gon be liable for voiding the warranty on ur prebuilt

[timber ridge]

imagine them mass producing this

[tacit wing]

that guy is a wizard

he made wireless mod with no added weight from stock

literally witchcraft

[timber ridge]

yea

[tacit wing]

prolly did some beardedbob style weight reduction in its internals

[timber ridge]

so if xmi were to actually do it, prob will be lighter

xm1*

wait im dumb, xm1 is the mouse

[queen sigil]

i mean

theres no way they can mess up BOW keycaps

[swift lantern]

got tape pros

[tacit wing]

nice

suits the sub bass man

[swift lantern]

nope

[vernal plinth]

Is there something close to the c: kiwi switches but cheap?

Looking to build a cheapish tactical keyb

And c3 never have stock

[swift lantern]

physically they are capable of making nice bass

they just, don't.

or do I just have really bad luck and constantly get defunct units?

[tacit wing]

actually no i confused the tapes with something else

[swift lantern]

well people SAY the tapes have nice bass

and I suppose that's not... wrong

it has high quality bass

good extension

[tight pulsar]

not really any cheap koala/kiwi/t1 profile tactile but theres some cheap less tactile ones like gateron/greetech browns and ergo clears/ ktt or ttc might have some stuff in the future but cant promise that

[swift lantern]

ok there's definitely something going on here...

they sound better on da phone than on the dac/amp

perhaps cuz they're so senstive?

[tacit wing]

youll know if its sensitive if distortion is within audible range

[onyx stump]

Bit the bullet and bought the Pwnage Ultra Ergo (and color customized it to a purple/black, to match my theme)

[tacit wing]

nice ec2 clone

[swift lantern]

like, I'm using them with foam tips

and I believe they are already "bass" tuned

yknow those little screw things

I don't know what to think..

[tight pulsar]

i have come to the conclusion that artisans are rigged

[swift lantern]

I can't be that unlucky can I

[tacit wing]

naw youre just expecting more from what youre getting

still, unit variation is still a thing

[swift lantern]

I didn't do the screws thing right

I got the blue ones in now instead of silver

ok this is better but still not what I was expecting

is it just cuz they're too sensitive?

is that why the high end is like.. ouch

[tacit wing]

arent tapes like revealing in tonality

emphasis on the upper mids

i probably would like it

[swift lantern]

the upper ends of vocals is painful

like literally painful

[tacit wing]

i love pain

[swift lantern]

bro

they also aren't retrieving any detail

unless "4-5k hurting your ears" = detail

let me just compare to t2 again rq to make sure I'm not going insane

[timber ridge]

fh3 timeeee

or cash out and jus cop oh10s

[swift lantern]

I can't return them though so

[timber ridge]

where did you order from ?

[swift lantern]

ebay

[timber ridge]

used?

[swift lantern]

technically yes

[timber ridge]

did you atleast pay under retail

[swift lantern]

well no duh

if I paid retail for these I would be going sicko mode on someone

[timber ridge]

oof

60?

[swift lantern]

they're usually $130 I got them for $100

dude literally used them for 2 hours

you can tell, everything is in pristine condition

hurray, waist of my $100

https://tenor.com/view/anger-rage-gif-5455153

[timber ridge]

maybe copping the phantoms used up all ur luck

[swift lantern]

maybe so man

and I mean, they can eq to be nice

but so can my t2

they don't do anything my t2's can't do

[timber ridge]

is it an upgrade ?

[swift lantern]

NO

[tacit wing]

you can clearly see the man's sheer disappointment and mans said is it an upgrade

[swift lantern]

they're a sidegrade at best

[tacit wing]

its time

[swift lantern]

no

it's time for me to keep using t2 until they break and then get more when they do

[tacit wing]

post it for sale on Crinacle's server

someones bound to pick it up

[swift lantern]

discord?

[tacit wing]

sell your Tapes and cop that guy's Z1R

[swift lantern]

z1r?

[timber ridge]

my recommendations are blon 05s, fh3 and oh10

[swift lantern]

sony z1r?

[timber ridge]

arent they like 2 racks

[swift lantern]

no

I should've gone with tri i3

I knew I should've

[timber ridge]

i lowkey forgot about tri i3s

lowkey kinda interested in them

[swift lantern]

they are so darn big and heavy though

[small nimbus]

pls god make it stop

[timber ridge]

heavier than oh10s?

[swift lantern]

how much is oh10 per earbud

[timber ridge]

if i remember correctly then like 32g

[swift lantern]

amazoon says 12.3 ounces

says tri i3 are actually 4.9

wait what

[timber ridge]

i would peep a review for weight

[swift lantern]

it would appear the i3s are lighter

well... okay then

bight me even harder hindsight why don't you

[timber ridge]

was that a reason why you skipped it ?

[swift lantern]

mostly the price

[timber ridge]

yea 150+ is p steep ngl

[desert shore]

is there anywhere I can get a blank white large mousepad?

[glass bear]

best part

of red switches

is being able to use computer when parents dont know

unlike red you dont gotta bottom out the switches