#peripherals-and-displays
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step one dont buy a gmmk
why not
the PCB doesn't support 5 pin switches
oh well do u know any good hotswap keyboards then
what price and formfactor
congratulations go buy a keychron
which one
literally any that is hotswap
ok thx
and a modern varient so it comes with prelubed and clipped stabs
does the k 8 or k6 have that
does either say it's hot swap
i picked the hotswappable version
ok
that was easy
wait so can a k6 have a cherry red
it supports any 5 pin switch
as long as its like the standard cherry style switch
and not autemu
idk
what hyper x headset is good
@elder current only the clouds are good. quote on quote "good"
you sure are asking for alot with a 60 dollar budget
is the gk61 any good
yes
ok
@deep marsh oof
might just build one my self actually
@deep marsh so any cloud hyper x set
@elder current you are pinging the wrong person
i wouldnt spend money on any hyperx headset tbh but if you point a gun to my head then id say go for Clouds
Cloud Alphas or Twos
read the last thing i said
@zealous silo dont get a v1 keychron
whats the v1 keychron
besides updated bluetooth
if you think the v2 is a thicc/high keeb
the v1 has no angle
it NEEDS a wrsit wrest
yea its great for the price
but i f i remember correctly the aluminum version is kinda wonky
like its not a full aluminum case, its jus bumpers screwed on to it
id expect for that price to be like to be barbones
yeah
but still aluminum make sif feel more prermium
still nice they give you the option tho
and it's only 10$
yup
they need low profile optical
i wouldnt know tbh
it recently got a 1$ price drop
but I wouldn't buy that
Do you really need 8?
and also for r25$ thats really expensive
which would u rec instead @queen sigil
literally any cheap one
I don't see what would make a difference between a cheap and expensive cable sleeve
also do you know where I can buy a switch opener?
literally any website
should i get a Madcatz mouse?
or you could just use a flathead screrwdriver
no
rn i have a G502 hero
dont get a madcatz mouse
but it has double click protection which i no like
if you have to get something from madcatz get the glide mosuepad
ye i have the mousepad
keychron p op
if you're ordering from keychron maybe ordering switches at the same time isn't too bad of an idea
i want the mad catz mojo m1, whenever the hell they release it
i didnt go with a keychron bc the height
and i had wrist problems b4
with keebs '
whats ur grip type
wdym?
bruh
hwo do you grip ur mouse
how do you hold your mouse, claw, fingertip or full palm
theres some other types but those r the main
is the basilisk similar to the g502
and some corsair options
yes its the direct competitor
wait @queen sigil how many switches would I need for a TKL
not a clone but a competitor
87
and are those a really good price what are they on other websites?
what is a good price?
th g502 lightspeed is 50 off rn
huh
those are only 70 pieces
find some with 10 pc per set
first off
thats a 3 pin switch set
gross
second banggood usually takes ages to arrive
and usually packages get dammaged
kbd has 20 dollar shipping
@timber ridge
thats like more than half the cost of swiches alone
@timber ridge
so would the keychron or Novelkeys between those two for yellow gats?
wait so ur just ordering switches
yes
for what keyboard
honestly, you may be able to find some on amazon
EW
not good?
what about keychron?
keycrhon uses 5 pin switches
k2
3 pin is ok but 5 pin is a lot better
get a razer keyboard
very good
lots rgb
great stabs
yea
zero case ping
razer best
amazing
0 case flex
/s
i'm good
what keyboard
hades 68
Keychron K2 Hot-swappable version is a 75% layout wireless mechanical keyboard, yet compact. Users can hot swap every Gateron switch in seconds, while compatible with other MX-styled switches. With Mac and Windows layout, connect up to 3 devices, comes with wired cable option,...
a reviewer said it had better stabs than the k2 i think
what baout this?
I literally just awnswered what you said
ooo
if you want a thinner version of that, ik eppomaker has a hotswap version of that
same layout
in terms of quality
are there any 60% hotswap keyboards that arent the GMMK
oh ye forgot about that one
@timber ridge does the durgod come with ABD keycaps
am i able to get it naked cuz i dont really want gateron opticals
budget ?
at least $100 but im not going to get the drop alt or ctrl
dont
i want a prebuilt
its 250 but the keycaps alone are 150
andit comes with everything
only downside is the color scheme isnt for everyone
honestly might just get keycron k2 v2
and get different keycap set
wait is the gmmk 5 pin
oh my god

yes ik but i orgot
you want an awnswer or the quick awnswer
isnt the gmmk pro 5 pin
depending on the price of the madcatz mojo m1, il probably get both the mojo and the basilisk, because yes
k
oh ok
the m1 looks hideous but cool idea
considering most mouse with that shape is super heavy
im going to stab myself
youre not obligated to help him
im very sorry im just trying to multitask and its hard
try to do a tiny bit of researrch
it supports either 3 or 5 pin
before you buy something that you have no clue what it is
i just did some research people say it supports both so i might get that instead and get a keycap set for it
are you not swapping switches?
i will
this is my current keyboard
It has kahil brown switches is what i was told by the friend i bought it off of, as he changed the switches to take the RGB better
this is what it looks like now
i want to change the extra keys to the right into some cool looking keys and change my spacebar to look sick
how would i go about doing that
that is a go od lokig key board
I don't know if your image got mirrored but if you're talking about the macro keys on the left
Yes these macro keys on the left
Also I have no clue what the layout of your keyboard is so I can't recommend you a keyboard
or keycaps
is that hyperx pudding keycaps
sicne you have a "gAmInG kEyBoaRd" the bottom row is usually unorthodox
Yep just last week got a new keyboard and mouse
Been rocking original deathadder and a death stalker
And when I was younger I was a hot head and they served me well
Yeah I got it 30$ off a buddy
Just remove the keycaps on the bottem row and send a picture of it
Did he not give you a keycap puller
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Too many infractions
Lmfao
I said s word
He basically had a key cap remover and lube and stuff but he didn’t end up giving me it bc I told him I didn’t need it XD
You could use a flathead screwdriver probs
Might dammage the case and switches
but probs nothing
like
dangerous
yea i think ill ask him
i believe this is the site documentation
is there an easy way to see what you want?
Yeah looking at that keyboard
you do not have the corrrect size keycaps for your bottom row
what does that mean
It means the keys like your left alt and cntrl
they are not meant for your keyboard
they are the wrong size
ah
doesnt seem like an issue though
they seem to work like normal just... leave a bit of room between eachother
whic his quite nice as i type very quickly and its a plus
Wait so you're just looking for macro key rerplacements?
You are'nt replacing all keycaps
just the macro keys
nah just the macro keys
and maybe the space bar
i just love the color purple and want to get some cool looking designed keycaps
You aren't going to be able to replace either of those with keycaps that really fit in
The spacebar isnt the standarrd size
and you can't really but special looking dedicated macro keys
that are the same form factor
For macro keys the only thing I think you could get is get novelties with like DSA or XDA fortmfactor
so sad the sound quality is quite good for 50usd, but the capsule picks up so much vibrations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJQLRzDZ3mo
Today I review the Razer Seiren Mini, a budget USB super-cardioid condenser microphone. The mic has a very crisp and clear sound, although leans towards being a bit crunchy. It does a decent job at background noise rejection as well, but most importantly it is plug and play, e...
i picked uo this JLAB talk go for like 40$
its an insane value
atleast compared to the mic on my corsair void pro elite wireless thing
the first model is the one you have
the second one is the standarrd layout for a fullsize
wait
thats wrong
it has from left to right
whatever so what i'm saying is
that spacebar is probs not gonna get replaced with anything that looks nice
same with macro keys unless you're willing to spend a bunch of money on a full set of DSA/XDA keycaps with novelties
you're speaking japanese to me

can anybody reccomend a good 1440p 120hz curved monitor?
looking to spend 300 dollars max
does anyone have the g903 and have an issue where hold clicking acts weird?
LOGITECH MOMENT
Hmm
what happened leo
huh
@timber ridge :KEK:
does anyone have the g903 and have an issue where hold clicking acts weird?
@idle cairn switch issues are prominent with the Omron 20m's in Logitechs
more prominent in the GPW than other mice
whether you have a good unit or not is a shot in the dark
my G203 has no issues
If I have had this thing for like 3 years is it worth getting from a different brand or a new mouse?
if you want a SUREFIRE way to not have this issue again
i suggest staying away from Omron
look for a mouse with Kailh or Huano switches
or Optomechanical like what Razer, Roccat and Endgame Gear has
otherwise, getting another Logitech is fine but dont be surprised if the same issues come up again
for what reason]
i know but the memories 🥺

i have 2TB of storage and i have nothing personal in it lol
well actually i really dont have anything tbh
started my FLAC collection tho 
Nice

im slowly easing my way into more games on pc
i was planning on getting everything on the ps5, but gave up on that
so ima jus start buying games for pc
speed switches are honestly a scam
the lower actuation point doesnt make you better lmfao
if you want a quiet switch get a silent switch
well linears are nowhere near as loud
Fair point
gateron yellows are great for a budget
considering he wants speed silvers, yellows might be too heavy for his liking
he used blues though
yellows are a bit more heavy than mx blues
wait nvm
ok
nvm
no yellows are like buttery smooth
what are you talkin about lmao
bro espeically lubed switches
anyone know the difference between ev 01 vs ev 02 switches
gat silents have the pad things on the end
that help make it not loud
and I don't have to use 20kg of 205g0
are jtk kits good?
idk

ima do a eva them build for my second build
im bout to ACT UP
i smell 🧢
if they dont price compete with the MOW, id still reckon they will sell
GPW getting an even worse scroll wheel
then again 63 grams, no holes plus wireless is unheard of
if its anything like my g305 itll berak in about 3 years
it has no direct competitor
@timber ridge jtk is nice
thatll work perfectly with my theme
i swear
huh
GPW getting an even worse scroll wheel
@queen sigil no
bruh
the only prominent issue of the GPW is the double clicking issues
been getting cholax vibes from u lately
an supposedly that's for a "gas bike"
Logitech cuts down on weight where it matters, not just pUt HoLeS oN mOuSe

hes getting iso?
I don’t like holey mice
O
I already have one
I get nervous about dust and dirt
i've used alot of mice in the past
but the pulsefire dart is the most comfortable mouse
but its super heavy and expensive
the G403 clone lol
The Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight might be released/announced tomorrow. Looks interesting
yes
Oops didn’t see the picture above
very interesting
holey mice were nice when finalmouse first had them
and then glorious made one
but now that everyone is making holy mice
its bland and boring
im still gonna buy a mouse if its good, regardless of if it has holes or not
holey mice are good
but the market is so overly saturated with them
FinalMouse dropped the Air58 and everyone and their mama ate that mf up
working on a sleeper build. Anyone know of a good brand that makes oldschool looking keyboards? Those big beige ones.
IBM
lol the case I'm using for the sleeper is IBM
ajazz
last time I checked there are no IBM case clones that take cherry style switches
and i doubt epomaker has an old lookin keyboard
there are lots of retry style keycaps for different price ranges
Okay cool. Yeah doesnt have to be anything fancy. As long as it is mechanical, responds well and looks legit I'm good.
and the EPOmaker one uses SA keycaps
so thats a no
also what's ur budget
and do you have experience soldering/ do you have access to a soldering iron
epomaker uses xda
the ajazz whatever
nah, couldnt throw it together myself. Just thought there might be a brand out there that i didnt know of that made old school looking boards.
So are you looking for an old keyboard clone
Because you said "sleeper" which usually means it has good internals
and i wouldn't consider buckling spring switches to be good
Kind of. I'm honestly open to ideas. Yeah the rig is a sleeper. 1990's IBM case with all new 1440p gear inside. Have to mod the back a tiny bit for an exhaust fan, but otherwise unmodified
Could do either. Like I said I'm open to ideas and thought you all in chat might have a good idea of where to start 🙂
and what's your budget
Dont really have one lol just willing to get something that fits the look.
Like this..
Thanks for the Ajazz suggestion
But if you know of something better let me know
then get an original like say 2000+ cherry keyboard
I think they still make retro unique designs for their keyboards @foggy palm
like the g80 11900
You def know your stuff, cheers for all this help. Rigs I know, keyboards not so much 😛
np for the help 🙂
np for the help 🙂
@timber ridge LANCE U SAID 4 WRODS SHUSH
Just buy authentic ibm keyboard
@timber ridge they were 4 great words <3
@queen sigil again thank you though.
@west hornet yeah, for a laugh i'm going to look into what would have been purchased in addition to the IBM computer during the time of it's launch and see if I can grab one.
Just for a laugh that is. Not wanting to game with a old keyboard like that.
Should i get buckling spring switches
well yes but no
is it complicated
in theory they are
but some people dont like em
because its not comfy and it doesnt feel relaxed
o gg
at thats what ive seen
im debating if my second keeb build should be unit 01 theme or have night sakura caps
vertical mice are for people who find having their wrist turned vertically, more comfortable
lol
naw
i personally wouldnt get the mx vertical
i dont find it any more ergonomic than an mx master but thats just me lol
or any other EC clone for that matter
pic
Tips on In stock options:We will have 600 sets D65 in stock available from November. So if you choose the in-stock option, that means it will take a few weeks for the processing time In Stock options: Orders of Grey and Black color will start shipping from November 4...
1 instock in grey if anyone wants it
pre-built?
barebone
so its gonna need keycaps and switches
either Razer or Glorious has to make a move
drop a Viper Mini Ultimate or a MOW Minus to make this thing run for its money
im bouta make some big keeb purchases
jus having trouble deciding rn
feel like cholax
nope
lance how many keebs have gotten to ur doorstep this past week
jesus christ
mf bought every damn keeb
3 came broken
good times amrite
but this time ima be ordering keeb parts
jus deciding if i wanna go thru with this evangelion theme or not
Which eva?
anyone know a good mmo mouse?
a chair would be considered a peripherial correct?
i need a new chair because this standard wooden one is giving me back pain
go to secret labs 👍
Whos that?
whats your budget
like 150 max
refurbished/used is ok
this one?
and can someone tell me if the steelseries artics 5 headphones are good
is that one good
is the chair good
seems good, leatherette
is the steelseries artics 5 headphones good
idk i use bose
yea but it's not good for gaming
its meant for like phone calls, i've got a separate mic for my pc
what do the reviews say about your headphones though
i use iems
it says its like discord certified
🤔
discord certified what the
yea i havent heard that
personally i like the krakens because its booming
oh i might buy a kraken unless oyu say its bad
what krakens do you reccomend
i'm tired of using a separate mic ;;
but as of recent ive been using my razer hammerhead pro v2 and a pair of iems
the uwu kraken or no kraken at all
send me a link to the headphones you reccomend
the kraken x is the latest one
What is the difference between SteelSeries Arctis 5 and Razer Kraken X? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the PC and gaming headset ranking.
try looking at that comparison
most people say that the kraken x is better than the ss arctis 5
dude the artics 5 says it won the comparison
freq doesnt matter
plus its better to base off what others say when it comes to experience with products
so which one do you reccomend
i need one with the noise cancellation
any other razer one you reccomend that has microphone noise cancellation
i wouldnt buy any krakens for more than 5usd to be worth it
a ksc75 for 15usd or koss porta pros for <40usd would easily beat them, the blackshark might be decent i haven’t seen much on them. and sadly i dont know much on the steelseries
which headphones that have a noise canceling mic are good idk which one would be good
@tacit wing wait
is that the 2020/2021 new g pro
oh shoot
i might have bought my g502 too earlyyyyyyyyyyyy
will there be a new g502?
shoot
too less buttons for me
the old gpw is kinda better
since 2 side button on both sides
Speaking of G502. Im rocking a g700s and looking to upgrade this BF. Would a G502 or a G604 be a better to go to? (Note the reason Im conflicted is I use all 4 side buttons on the G700 in most games, so a 502 feels like I would be missing buttons, and a 604 from what I see is a quality downgrade). Ive cleaned/taken apart my G700 and so its still going strong but its going on 6 years now, so I expect it to go soon.
Hey the buttons for power and menu options look like that under my monitor is that right or are there supposed to be caps
depends if that specific monitor is supposed to, but those are normal basic button mechanisms. i wouldnt be surprised if it didnt come with a cap on top
I need good speakers I'd like 4.1 setup but the two back speakers wireless. Is that possible?
KARINA GB ENDS TOMMOROW 
not sure if this goes here? so i just installed an ethernet cable and the connection is way better with downloading and stuff(as shown by picture) but for some reason in games, or more specifically, overwatch, the ping is like 300
specifically on NA servers, I am in the EU but with wifi I got 120 ping and now I get 300 with ethernet
which is strange
it doesn't seem to affect other games
and the IND whatever that means is way higher
Yeah that sounds more like a server location issue
could depend on what sever in na perhaps, latency can greatly vary me getting anywhere from 30-90ms in na. i would try a few games to see if it is consistent
karina?
ive tried like 3 games
all are like 100~ ping on NA so idk
nevermind fixed it
sorry haha
@magic jacinth if thats an aoc monitor, install g menu
@west hornet
aww
I dont think it sold 100 units in a month
so many shift key

ooo i saw that kit
finally shipped
ooo
is the kemove snowfox/shadow any good
not sure how good the stabs r on it
looks like a tomato
but it being hotswap, you could always mod it
ok
hey if ur gonna ask us for recommendations
then completely ignore them
dont come for help
ok
@tight pulsar how many packs did u buy
anyone know a good mmo mouse?
@small nimbus G604 or Naga Pro
i got them off a friend but 110
god bless dino
i looked at some articles online about mmo mice but i gave up after a while
the Naga Pro is modular but its $$$
mhm i wouldnt call it local cause he lives in enon but i have my places
dw about $
you can change how much side buttons you have. its interchangeable
i just need more buttons on the side
@tight pulsar Is it just you buying off friends or do you have like a place you find keyboard stuff
or like local keeb discords
i saw that but idk if i would actually use that and change the amount of side buttons
it depends but usually in the switchmodders or ohio mk discords
the dude i bought them from was in both but i put the wtb post in the switchmodders one
Time to look for a local discord
g604 is worth a look
yea i would take the 12 button set anyways so idk if it's worth to pay for the interchangeability
o you need 12 buttons?
g600
not the 604
theres also the Schmitar but that isnt very good lol
hmm maybe i will get naga anyways seems like better grip than g600
also SS is rumored to drop an Aerox 9 soon
the G600 has a good shape and solid buttons but i admit its pretty outdated
the sensor isnt even optical its laser lol
boomer mouse
oof
hmmm if it's soon i can manage waiting
plus i want wireless but i dont wanna get banned for that ;;
ok well the Aerox 3 just dropped a week ago, you would have to wait for the 5 to drop first before you can get to the 9 
what if they never drop the 9
o im sure they will, everyone was skeptical when they saw this chart and then SS dropped the Aerox 3
if you want wireless i think Naga Pro is a no brainer
for now at least
dino you picking up the new gpw?
anyways ty dino
now this is an aerox9 waiting room
no problem
aerox 9 i believe will be the lightest mouse with 12 buttons on the side once it drops
it wouldnt have a direct competitor
rn i have a corsair m65 but it's only has 2 side buttons it's tilting me
hopefully aerox 9 comes out before raiding starts ;;
mmo gamer?
i see aev on WoW all time
welp that answers my question
i want glorious to make a mouse with multiple side buttons
thats lightweight
cause glorious will prolly be directly competing with steelseries if they do that
mmm
that market is kinda deserted
i would prefer glorious cause im a simp for them
i dont think their aiming at mmo gamers tho so i dont think itll happen anytime soon atleast
mmo mouse lightweight
yeah true but lots of mmo gamers want lighter mice
might be happening soon tbh bc theyre starting to make all types of mice lightweight now
yes the market right now is too focused on the FPS arm aiming mfs
mad catz m1 is basically a lightweight g502
the only mouse that made noise with MMO lately is the Naga Pro
afaik
o god i have sour memories with MadCatz
i thought they went bankrupt
same
i used to have a Rat 7 and omg that thing was dreadful
really hoping razer drops a wireless viper mini
if it happens, itll prob force other companies to drop prices to compete
if razer doesnt bump up the price by like 70 dollars
i only remember madcatz from the days when they sponsored cs events
back in 2015 or something like that
Viper Ultimate Mini or MOW Minus will make the Superlight run for its money
wait actually no theyre not comparable
yeah cause the shape
i reckon Logitech can set F you prices on their flagship mice because not alot are cloning the GPW
theres the Hati but afaik, thats the only clone i can think of
and the HK Mira
isnt the hati an fk clone too?
naw i dont think G Wolves is cloning the FK
k i was mistaken
EC with the Skoll and Hati with the GPW
boop
i wouldnt be surprised if the OG GPW will tank down in price this Friday
boop
when you put the O ring insidie the switch
^^
did he get banned for stream sniping that one Rivals event
apparently he got banned for stream sniping in fall guys
but fornite for life

you can stream snipe in fall guys ?
wait nvm
it was because it was twitch rivals
LMFAO
HE STREAM SNIPED IN TWITCH RIVALS AND STILL LOST
you can stream snipe in fall guys ?
@timber ridge yes like queue sniping
and griefing
i thoughy that game died after Among Us took over
it did
Hi im XQC and today we're going to stream snipe the presidential inauguration
me too
but twitch is behind
twitch 
Hi im XQC and today we're going to stream snipe the presidential inauguration
@queen sigil imagine XQC's chat calling Biden a soy
god i cannot type on my phone i need my keeb to tupe coherent sentences
is ur phone tiny ?
pixel 3 XL
no wonder cntrl likes him
hes like a teenager with adhd with the body type of a middleschool chess team leader
i dont mind xqc that much is just that just that his fanbase... 
their mob mentality is THROUGH the roof
yeah he's like ninja
and its not like entertaining loud
like tyler1 when he rages or something like that
hes really toxic but has the fanbase to support him
its just straight up loud
my friend ran into him in league and they argued over all chat lmao
apparently he played cs and got bullied
the one time i like the toxic csgo community
ive seen kids with touretts talk better than him
like more than half the pro player base of Val are ex-cs players
or retired from CS and came back in the field
valorant is easier than csgo
the point and click part of valorant is alot easier
it feels alot slower
but you're going to learn alot of tactics
in terms of Gun play and movement mechanics YES absolutely
team stuff
yes agree with dino
and lance
valoarnt is eaier
and gaod damn it
at 150 the new gpw is
so god damn bad to me
cholax
model o wireless

looks more appealing
he even yells on twitter
lol
damn
OHHH NOOOO RGB HOW COULD THEY
ikr
valorant is def a lot slower
there was a huge problem with the operator
where the operator was op
cause there wasnt enough util to block off angles
and the movement speed was slower
also spraying and first shot accuracy is a lot better in val
one thing id say about Val though is that itll be my main FPS game if CSGO didnt exist
val is plagued with cc tho
counter strafin is choppy
so many blinds in the game
oh god what they did to Breach thry massacred my boy
you cant counter strafe in val
hes so broken
valorant is team based
so is cs wdym
while csgo is op point and shoot
they are both tac shooters
extremely team based lmfao
lol watch Astralis play and come back @queen sigil
treid cs go for the first time
didn even know what happend
and i got killed in 10 second
didn know where to go
i would actually argue valorant is less team based because of ults and stuff like that
13 year old playing CSGO moment
leyo go watch any good csgo team such as liquid during the grand slam or astralis
yeah I know how you play CSGO
extremely team based and util based
astralis created the meta of using lots of utility
POG
HES ONE OF US
wait he might be kapping
I have a cloud 9 jersey with my name on it
pog
that I got from there
bruh
oh damn
hot
how they got their ass whooped by OG
@tacit wing i would say that OG is actually really hard to face without a nice game plan and practice
cause alekisb is a genuis
@queen sigil brooooooooooo
5 igl's in one team pog
wtf
dino eating good
eating real good
dino not sharing? toxic
being worth it is 100% up to the consumer. in this case if you wished you want your GPW to be lighter and you have 150 to burn, I'd say is worth it
not for me tho lol
dino not sharing? toxic
@small nimbus no
i love chicken shawarma
all these anime profile pics and the same name color is confusin
clearly
toxic
@brisk parcel
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im super tempted
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sp basically according to badseed
@sharp kindle loll i saw his vid too
he said glorius blew the market and they cut out so much features like 2 buttons on both sides and why u romove rgb logitech bad moveeeeeeee
being worth it is 100% up to the consumer. in this case if you wished you want your GPW to be lighter and you have 150 to burn, I'd say is worth it
@tacit wing even if u have 150 he said viper ulti is more worth it
its not even about the rgb
or 2 buttons on both sides
its just the shape is bland and it doesnt have many features
and im the person to say button wobble doesnt matter a lot but it looked like it had A LOT
Superlight is still going to sell like hotcakes no matter what reviewer thinks. alot of people are a big fan of the shape and there is a 63g version of the GPW ppl will fork over money no matter what
also like i said being "worth it" is ultimately up to how much boxes a mouse ticks for the consumer





