#peripherals-and-displays

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timber ridge
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its all preference

normal barn
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woah

timber ridge
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cholax

tacit wing
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majority of peripherals are most often preference

normal barn
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bluetotoh for iems

timber ridge
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you bounce around things so much

normal barn
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dam

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LLMAO

timber ridge
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bruh

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any1 know about these?

queen sigil
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what
@tight pulsar indeed

tight pulsar
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@timber ridge what about them

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they have a video of them on their facebook page

barren stag
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Okay, just wanna say that.... AEKII>Model M....that is all.

timber ridge
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@tight pulsar how do they compare to ink yellows and ks3

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etc

tight pulsar
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we dont know yet bc nobody else has them but probably slightly worse than ks3/ink

queen sigil
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not many things are better than ks3

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in my opinion

tight pulsar
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hence why i said that

timber ridge
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dont think ink yellows are worth the price imo

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ks3 is like half the price

normal barn
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wat is ks3

queen sigil
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a switch

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that's why it's being compared to ink yellows

timber ridge
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wish ks3s were available on more sites

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if those cap switches are p good, they might be a good alternative

normal barn
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???

timber ridge
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its about 30 ish for 100 switches

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ks3 yellows

tacit wing
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for instance, rap and sometimes clairo or something
@last plinth cntrl if you listen to alot of Clairo, youre gonna need to get something warm and more on the low-end

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her mixing is geared towards that sound profile

timber ridge
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indie op

tacit wing
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the way Immunity is mixed sounds so intimate its really unique

last plinth
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So 6xx?

tacit wing
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6xx on some tubes would sound so lush

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or 58x's

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or if you wanna go closed some 99 Noirs

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Immunity would sound so good on those cans

normal barn
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@tacit wing so like how much cans u got

tacit wing
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4 in total lol

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2 on the way

timber ridge
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man

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dino spending big time

tacit wing
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NAW

timber ridge
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uh huh

tacit wing
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you are the bigges whale on this channel lance

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you bought two mice

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a phone

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and what

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in a span of like 2 days

timber ridge
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you should see general chat

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somehow the same ppl manage to get more than 1 3080

tacit wing
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im no hardware man all i play is csgo and genshin

normal barn
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tell me all of them all i knwo is u have 58x and 38x and 5xx cominga

timber ridge
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i play non intensive games too

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but man

tacit wing
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naw i dont need a 38x

timber ridge
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the wants in my life op

normal barn
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wait wat

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i thought u have 38x

tacit wing
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nope lol when did i say that

normal barn
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aigth

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so like u like my new pfp

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lol

tacit wing
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i got 58x's, M40's, 5xx's and Porta Pros

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yes anything but an Among Us pfp lol

normal barn
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its ben 10

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  • goku
tacit wing
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no slander btw i like that game

normal barn
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lol

tacit wing
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Alien X Ben10 would wash Goku

normal barn
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bruh i k

timber ridge
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i stopped watching the newer ben 10 stuff so idek who that is

tacit wing
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even HM5's cant balance it out

brisk parcel
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oooh whatre those

timber ridge
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my cheap extended mouse pad comes today lmao

tacit wing
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you definitely need warm cans for Clairo cntrl bc i dont like it

last plinth
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6xx good?

tacit wing
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@brisk parcel m40x's

brisk parcel
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ahh

tacit wing
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@last plinth yes

brisk parcel
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yes 6XX v good

timber ridge
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heard that stock pads on the m40s are garbo

brisk parcel
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@hazy fiber can testify

tacit wing
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with some tubes. clairo would sound soooo warm

last plinth
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Tubes

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hmm

tacit wing
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especially with her mixing

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super lush

last plinth
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Like?

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Vali?

tacit wing
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no

last plinth
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or ld mk2

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With mullards

brisk parcel
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go for the LD, more tubey

tacit wing
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yes

brisk parcel
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hold on

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cntrl I have an article for you

last plinth
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ok

tacit wing
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Vali is a hybrid which i dont hear much good about

brisk parcel
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read this

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this guy tries a TON of tubes and tells you what he likes/doesn't like/unique characteristics

normal barn
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@tacit wing yo

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u use all 6 cans????

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how

tacit wing
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yes?

normal barn
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howwwwwwww

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i have liek 2 earsbuds

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one wired

last plinth
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broo

normal barn
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one wireless

tacit wing
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6 cans?

normal barn
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and one razer headset

last plinth
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Ninja i cant understand the article

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I dont know what im looking for in tubes

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Gaming tube

hazy fiber
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Yes, 6XX very good 🙂

normal barn
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and i dont even sue my earbuds

tacit wing
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bruh Gaming tube amps kekww

normal barn
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so liek all i use is razer headet

tacit wing
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Razer is taking notes rn

normal barn
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si explain

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so*

tacit wing
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what do you want me to explain?

last plinth
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gaming tubes

timber ridge
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oof

last plinth
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Tubes best for gaming

brisk parcel
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oh god

timber ridge
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all i have rn are coolermaster mh752s and blon 03s

last plinth
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Is what i mean

little crater
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lmao

last plinth
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like high bass or treble

brisk parcel
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okay so you can understand it cntrl it's really easy

tacit wing
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nope i personally wouldnt use warm cans for competitive gaming

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i need to hear those footsteps sing

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the bass just drowns those out

brisk parcel
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lemme copy/paste a tube from that list and explain

normal barn
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bro

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how are u using 6 cans

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liek

last plinth
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Ok then

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Me keep heresy

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Or not?

tacit wing
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Ninj do you game with your Little Dot?

neon quartzBOT
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Lone_Ninja#0069 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

brisk parcel
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bruh

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come on

timber ridge
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oof fortnite has ray tracing now?

last plinth
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lmao

timber ridge
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imagine all the 12 year olds gettin rtx cards for it

hazy fiber
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Heh.

normal barn
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LMAO

last plinth
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They wouldnt even use rtx on fortnite

normal barn
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lol

timber ridge
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3090 for fortnite

normal barn
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lol

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300 bottleneck everything

brisk parcel
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2.4 Mullard M8161/CV401

Focus is the word. This mil-spec version of the Mullard CV131 is one of the best sounding EF92 tubes around. It brings to the table all of the fine qualities of the Mullard CV131 and adds to it a background so extraordinarily quiet you will actually notice the silence between notes. A low noise floor lets details stand out, and music with female vocals in particular is presented with a magical sense of focused intimacy that draws you in and makes you feel as if the singer is standing right next to you, singing into your ears with all the inflections and emotions preserved. Overall this tube is well balanced and ‘audiophile’ sounding and is one of my personal favorites.
Bass: 19
Mid: 18
Treble: 19
Detail: 20
Soundstage: 19
Total: 95/100

PLZ WORK

normal barn
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3090*

hazy fiber
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Sure their parents are happy about that one

brisk parcel
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ok cool

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OKI EXPLAIN TIME

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cntrl

tacit wing
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i will get 3090 so i can play csgo at 1280 x 960 stretched

normal barn
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3090 bottleneck

last plinth
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I see

normal barn
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everything cpu and stuff

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we have rn

timber ridge
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woah you can notice the silence between each notes

brisk parcel
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lemme talk to cntrl bois

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okay

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so the top is the name/type/family

last plinth
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I also want something u can game in

brisk parcel
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the description is just that, a description

last plinth
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And dino said warm=bad gaming

normal barn
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@last plinth u are liek old me

tacit wing
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not BAD

normal barn
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remmeber old me

last plinth
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Or prefer not to*

brisk parcel
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now at the BOTTOM is key

normal barn
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all i ask about was gaming headset headhones

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and gaming dacs and sound cads

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@tacit wing do u remember

last plinth
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I see bottom

normal barn
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backin the old days when i was 12

hazy fiber
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That moment when your phone is about the same width as your TI-94 calculator and you grab it by mistake --> confusion

brisk parcel
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okay cntrl listen closely
that score is out of 20, and how well it does it. naturally tubes are "warmer" but this adds that silence that you can hear, so you'll hear the subtle differences in volume so that you can really take advantage of volume changes and whatnot

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so a 19/20 across most of those is good

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now, if you go look at some of the other tubes, read their descriptions, find one you like

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NOT based on score

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and if you get the LD, tube rolling kits can be found online for like $50 that will give you like 6 matched pairs of tubes that you can try and see which ones you like best

last plinth
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Dino said he doesnt like the bass drowning out the sound of treble

brisk parcel
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you'll hear it all just fine

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and yes dino I game on my LD

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So nice and warm and fuzzy

last plinth
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nzxt case

brisk parcel
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yup

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h710i

last plinth
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I saw it

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The cpu cooler is a noctua thing right

timber ridge
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any reason for the low profile cooler ?

brisk parcel
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Silverstone, and yes actually I had a reason

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A long time ago reason

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spins real fast tho

timber ridge
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was it an itx build at one point

brisk parcel
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it wasnt, you'll laugh at the reason

timber ridge
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oof

brisk parcel
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my mom controlled my life 5 years ago

normal barn
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gahhhhhhhh

brisk parcel
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it was the one thing she was so insistent on that it was stupid

normal barn
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somebody help

timber ridge
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felt that kinda

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my parents did not wanting me getting a big atx case idk y

brisk parcel
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Yeah

timber ridge
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good thing i like compact cases anyway

brisk parcel
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also 2020 is like NOT the move

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Like that’s not a lens flare

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Come on send

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Looks like it doesn’t want to

timber ridge
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oof

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cracked camera?

brisk parcel
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no

normal barn
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gusy whos good at math here

brisk parcel
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what math

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But look at that halo

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Not a lens flare

timber ridge
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what is that

brisk parcel
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well it's the moon

tacit wing
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And dino said warm=bad gaming
@last plinth ok look, i didnt say warm = bad, i said i had a preference for brighter highs for gaming

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keyword ***preference ***

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the game i play alot which is csgo, its footsteps are a bit trebly

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so of course i would go towards that sound profile

normal barn
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whos good at math in here

timber ridge
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i cant get into csgo

normal barn
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i need help

timber ridge
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although i play valorant

normal barn
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7 quesions

brisk parcel
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cholax

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what type of math

timber ridge
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i actually like the look of this

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and there is a bunch of dif colors

brisk parcel
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also dino I put 2 bangers in the playlist go look

hazy fiber
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7 quesions
@normal barn I can help up to Calc 2 and a bit of Calc 3 related to Physics

brisk parcel
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@timber ridge lowkey I agree

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tbh rgb mouse mats are cool but

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they can get kinks and not lay flat

hazy fiber
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I want a corsair one with rgb and QI charging

brisk parcel
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I had the razer one and I returned it after 2 weeks cause it just got worse and worse and I tried to fix it and I just couldn't

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does corsair make RGB mouse mats

timber ridge
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rgb mousepads jus mean more wires on ur desk

hazy fiber
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I feel like that isn't too much to ask considering they sell QI wireless mice

yes

brisk parcel
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?*

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they do?

hazy fiber
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yep

brisk parcel
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I thought they only made mousepads

normal barn
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@hazy fiber middle school algebra

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right in ur terretory

hazy fiber
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I thought they only made mousepads
Oh, mousepads, my b

brisk parcel
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bro that's easy

normal barn
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8th grade alegebar 1 to be precise

brisk parcel
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I can do that

normal barn
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help

timber ridge
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qi charging would be cool if your mouse supports it

hazy fiber
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Yeah, sure

normal barn
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with work shown

timber ridge
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if its for your phone i feel like itll jus get in the way

normal barn
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gah

brisk parcel
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we could walk you through it

hazy fiber
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qi charging would be cool if your mouse supports it
@timber ridge Dark Core Pro SE is QI

last plinth
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Im in school rn

timber ridge
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i almost got the dark core pro

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i think its a better productivity mouse than gaming

hazy fiber
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It's pretty nice for gaming actually

timber ridge
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after having a lightweight mouse

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its wayyy too heavy for gaming

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i hve a viper mini for gaming and g502 for productivity

tacit wing
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honesty the main reason why i went with the Viper Mini is bc i dropped my sens dramatically

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i needed the lighter weight than my 203

normal barn
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gahh

hazy fiber
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its wayyy too heavy for gaming
@timber ridge I game with my DPI really high and barely move my mouse 🙂

normal barn
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this is suppsoe to be ez

tacit wing
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Cholax focus on ur hw

normal barn
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ik

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i need help

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i have 3 assignment this being one of them

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due in like less than 2 hrs

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i need help with this one

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then i can get started on my art and ela to kill a mocking bird annotations

timber ridge
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im debating if i wanna swap my note 20u for a 12 pro max

tacit wing
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@timber ridge I game with my DPI really high and barely move my mouse 🙂
@hazy fiber if anything a heavier mouse is better for that

timber ridge
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dino what dpi do u play at

tacit wing
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400dpi

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i play 61/360cm

hazy fiber
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@hazy fiber if anything a heavier mouse is better for that
@tacit wing I know, that's why the dark core is perfect for me

normal barn
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i play at 800

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and gah somebody help

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with my math

tacit wing
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watch Khan Academy

hazy fiber
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i play at 800
anything below 1600 feels sluggish to me

tacit wing
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if i didnt play FPS games my dpi would be 1600

hazy fiber
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*1000

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I do 1000 with fps

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shrug

last plinth
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My dpi is like 800

brisk parcel
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mine is 3200 lmao

last plinth
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I remember

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I literally rolled this kid

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On csgo

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Map was inferno

hazy fiber
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I literally barely move my mouse half an inch lol

last plinth
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On a site i was graveyard looking at short

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Jiggle peaking

tacit wing
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ok Stewie2k

last plinth
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and then someones goes on balcony

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flicked to his head and rolled his ass

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I got in a match with stewie2k before

tacit wing
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whats ur in game sens cntrl

last plinth
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Faceit a long time ago

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Idk

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I think 1.61

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Or 1.21

tacit wing
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i always see Stew in my dm servers

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bc socal

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in LA servers

last plinth
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All my clips are in ssd

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Hoping i can still access it

tacit wing
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smerth has the lowest sens of us all here

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arm aimer Chad

last plinth
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I tried arm

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i was flicking so good

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But it hurted my arm

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so i stopped

tacit wing
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its definitely a learning curve but i went from nova 1 to LEM

last plinth
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On my rankup games i got 50 kills

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I was like 50-9 or something

tacit wing
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do you still play cs or more valorant?

normal barn
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none of them

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i sue to play them

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but like now they just sitting

tacit wing
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you sue?

normal barn
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while i troll in among us

last plinth
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I dont have pc rn

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But i played valorant more

tacit wing
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what happened to the pc u play Valorant in

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dont u have a channel

last plinth
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its broken

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I wanted to play csgo more

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but

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My friends wouldnt play it

thick plank
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he's on the "5XX are a reskinned deva clone" train without even listening himself
@brisk parcel because it physically us rhe same driver and chasis... if something is physically completely the same then unless new physics apply to it then it will act the same too and yoh can tell that without hearing or measuring it. It also happens to measure the same so there is that...

normal barn
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@tacit wing legitmatly i lay quake chamions fortnite among us

last plinth
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Dino i would love to play with u

normal barn
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and sometimes mobile games

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@tacit wing well for one

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u cant alt tab oout of valorant

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its freeze ur pc

last plinth
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U can?

normal barn
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or just my laptop

last plinth
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I alt tabbed all the time

normal barn
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lol

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and also

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its uhh 5v5 yet like so long

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for game to end

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i like quake champions

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for a reason

last plinth
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lmao

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Quake

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Isnt that old

thick plank
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i dont mind him as long as he has actually correct info, but hes the kinda that just looks at graphs and numbers and doesnt actually look at personal experience or actual usage (the whole atom amp and hersey vs 3+ have difference in the graph when the review couldnt even tell them apart once)
@tight pulsar the graph was ondistortion so unless you have a high detail headset and a high quality recording you shouldn't be able tk tell the difference based on the graph (other than the heresy being more trebbke heavy)

tight pulsar
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yeah

thick plank
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i prob wont be able to tell the difernce between them
@normal barn you will because they have a really unique and distinct sound stage no matter how bad your files are or how bad your equipment is but they are not a comfortable sound unless you love highs

tight pulsar
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and thats the main difference with the atom/3+ afaik so with a mid range pair of headphone there shouldnt be much difference?

tacit wing
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your cans will be the heaviest factor in sound signature

brisk parcel
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both of them

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not the same

last plinth
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Ninja

brisk parcel
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hm

last plinth
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So what amp

thick plank
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I did recommend the 58X to him
@brisk parcel and this you shouldn't do as again it is in every category worse than cheaper options...

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gonan get 5 xx
@normal barn I advise against that as that also has cheaper options that best it in basically every category

tacit wing
brisk parcel
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bro idk how many times I have to tell you that I think they're leagues better than the 559, go look at reviews, what more do you want?

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anyway, cntrl

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there are plenty of good options

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do you wanna go the tube route or stick with solid state?

last plinth
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I do not know

brisk parcel
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we've had this conversation many times before

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still going to recommend you stick with what we picked out

last plinth
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heresy?

brisk parcel
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the littledot, but the heresey is fine too

normal barn
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@thick plank

brisk parcel
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the ORIGINAL thing we picked out

normal barn
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i didn say that

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  1. why
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uhh its ur opionion

tacit wing
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schiit stack, atom stack or LD is a good place to start

normal barn
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i didn want that

brisk parcel
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^

last plinth
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Ok

west hornet
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solid state could be safer route if you get other headphones down the line

normal barn
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schitt atom or ld tho

thick plank
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@brisk parcel 2 sides of magnets wouldnt work with a plannar or dynamic because then charging it would just leave it stuck and neither of the images you sent were accurate

last plinth
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Im actually not sure

brisk parcel
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it's your pick, but you'll have the most fun with tubes

tacit wing
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atom stack a direct competitor of the Schiit stack

last plinth
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I think i should just get “gaming” headphones and call it a day

thick plank
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uhh its ur opionion
@normal barn I'm talking objectively unless you like the metal tamber

last plinth
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Wait

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No

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Dt 880 and schiit stack

thick plank
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@last plinth dont go with schiit

west hornet
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just go simple get pc38x and apple dongle for gaming steveconfused

thick plank
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They are high heavy which is terribke for your rout as the 880 is already high heavy

queen sigil
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apple dongle op

thick plank
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And they are high distortion and not too great at detail

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Which defeats a lot of the 880's advantage

tacit wing
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bright highs are fantastic for gaming so thats a plus

thick plank
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They also dont sound stage too well

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I mean the schiit not the headset

brisk parcel
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okay so

normal barn
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@last plinth ok so get the pc38x

brisk parcel
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first of all

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many planars have magnets on both sides

last plinth
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no

thick plank
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@tacit wing they actually aren't especially once they become sibelant

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@brisk parcel how do you think a plannar works

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They work in the same way as a dynamic in principal

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Ac current goes through the copper traces (instead of a coil) and then pushes a thin membrane away from the magnet as those traces create a small magnetic field

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If you surround it then it pushes on moth ends and then the driver just stays in place

queen sigil
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kee bord

brisk parcel
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okay discord had to restart I'm back sorry

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now

neon quartzBOT
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fortnut#7992 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

thick plank
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Which would require a ton of power and not be a plannar

last plinth
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Now

thick plank
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But none of this matters cause the image you sent just isn't accurate

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They both have 9 straps of the same magnets pushing the same copper pattern on the same membrane

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With the same sound signature

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Same sound stage

tacit wing
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so youre saying the manufacturer is wrong

thick plank
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Same imaging

last plinth
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What are u saying

thick plank
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Same tamber

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Same chasis

last plinth
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Fortnut why dont u get hired and make the perfect headphones

brisk parcel
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look at that

tacit wing
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do you have both cans in-hand right now Fortnut?

amber oracle
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@last plinth why dont you make up your mind and select what parts you want?

timber ridge
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oof

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mousepad came in

thick plank
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@last plinth I am studying computer engineering and not audio engineering but im pretty good at amp design

last plinth
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Can u code ur own cpu

brisk parcel
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Note the position of the horizontal bars (magnets) relative to the empty oval pieces (diaphragm). The magnets are positioned on either side of the diaphragm, front and back, this is a dual sided magnet structure.

Because dual sided magnetic structures produce more precise diaphragm motion, which translates to otherwise unattainable detail through the mid range, high end, and upper octaves (“air”). Sub-bass also manifests in unique ways, HE-500 reviews cover this at length.

"dual sided wouldn't work"

west hornet
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cntrl what headphone do you use rn btw

last plinth
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a bad headphone

thick plank
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Cpus arent code but if you mean can I design a cpu through my understanding on cpu microarchitecture then yes

last plinth
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its like some onikuma hing

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Thing

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I got it in amazon for like 20$

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the mic always crackled and echoed

brisk parcel
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so, yes, it is dual sided

last plinth
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And the headphone would crackle sometimes aswell

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Scuffed but it was decent

west hornet
#

what kind of music do you typically listen to, besides ofc that you also play games

last plinth
#

Rap

brisk parcel
#

scroll down a little

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whole comment explaining

last plinth
#

Like juice wrld or something

brisk parcel
#

don't assume that it's just "incorrect"

thick plank
#

@brisk parcel it isnt the he500 on any piece, it is only 9 magnets, it isnt dual sided, that wouldn't add to detail, and the he500 isn't either

tacit wing
#

i like purr1n's threads

brisk parcel
#

if it isn't dual sided

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explain the diagram

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never said it was the he500 at all

thick plank
#

They slso share the same sensitivity. You know why? Same 9 magnets pushing on the same copper pattern pushing the same diaghram

brisk parcel
thick plank
#

Why did you send a 480p image?

brisk parcel
#

which is also why I referenced that

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because I printscreen'd it because I'm lazy

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and will not take the time to do it the right way, click "open orignal" and zoom in

amber oracle
#

come now, you are both adults, please behave like it

last plinth
#

Use snipping tool

amber oracle
#

no need for the pointless territory weeing.

brisk parcel
#

also, why do you say "plannar" and not planar, also naed what did I do wrong? I'm literally providing proof as to why it is the way it is

amber oracle
#

breathe Senn :)

brisk parcel
#

OOOOO

amber oracle
#

that is all i am saying :)

tacit wing
#

it wouldnt be a problem if some folks wouldnt make ppl feel bad about their purchase

amber oracle
#

its just words on a screen guys

brisk parcel
#

we have no way to tell until we get the cans

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also dino

amber oracle
#

so, its okay to not agree with everything everyone else says

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as i said earlier

last plinth
#

Imma get 6xx modi and

brisk parcel
last plinth
#

ld mk2?

amber oracle
#

what someone says, reflects on them alone.

west hornet
#

honestly cntrl the pc38x might just be best option for you and keeping it simple, if you want 6xx that is a good option too

brisk parcel
#

we get an extra $10 in credit so pog

thick plank
#

Gonna solve the whole argument real quick

last plinth
#

Even if i get ld mk2

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what tubes

brisk parcel
#

shipping won't be 2 days but

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oh well

thick plank
#

No magnet and same pattern

last plinth
#

Ninja what tubes do i get

thick plank
#

Almost like physics still apply and if they put a second set of magnets the driver wouldn't move

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@last plinth dont start off with tubes

brisk parcel
#

you can pick whatever tubes you want, that guide has some really good ones mentioned

west hornet
#

if you decide on 6xx that is good option, most people are happy with that

amber oracle
#

@thick plank if you are having a argument, i think you have misunderstood something quite severely

thick plank
#

Get a jds atom and then move on to tubes and maybe even use the atom as a pre amp fkr a tube amp

brisk parcel
#

@thick plank let him do what he wants

last plinth
#

Ninja said its better if i do get ld mk2

brisk parcel
#

if he wants tubes then let him get tubes

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I didn't really say it was "better", just that you could have more fun

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and sennheiser cans do love their tubes

west hornet
#

solid state is the safer option to go, idk about tubes but i just hear a lot that tubes are really nice on them

amber oracle
#

if anything. its SUPPOSED to be a debate between people that care about audio gear

last plinth
#

What does “fun” mean

amber oracle
#

a debate is a MUTUAL exchange of viewpoints/knowledge/opinion.

west hornet
#

the eternal war has begun

brisk parcel
#

"fun" just means that you can mess with it a little more

thick plank
#

@west hornet he wants a headset thatbis good for gaming and the 6xx is about as far as you can get from that in spite of being good for the price for vocal lovers playing music

amber oracle
#

it is NOT a "this is the only possible way" declaration.

brisk parcel
#

think of it like ice cream toppings

last plinth
#

I dont eat ice cream

tacit wing
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its an analogy lol

last plinth
#

But yes

brisk parcel
#

yeah it's an analogy

last plinth
#

I dont put topping on my ice cream either

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Go on.....

brisk parcel
#

the amps can add a little extra on top

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just like ice cream toppings

thick plank
#

@amber oracle except his claim of it being an he500 in any way and the dual sided magnet claim (on both the 5xx and 500) are objectively wrong physical claims and not opinions

brisk parcel
#

and tubes help with that cause different tubes have different charcteristics

west hornet
#

i would not say 6xx is far from that as many consider it the best and safest option under 300usd

amber oracle
#

which can be reasoned about @thick plank

brisk parcel
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^

thick plank
west hornet
#

that is just what i see on countless forums and communities

thick plank
#

The front of it

brisk parcel
#

ok, first of all, I never said that the 5XX were a 500 clone

last plinth
#

Yes but what tubes do i get

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Idk what im looking for in one

brisk parcel
#

GE JAN5654W are a great start

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they're on amazon let me get you the link

thick plank
#

@brisk parcel they share 0 parts or features with a 500

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Acoustically or physically

brisk parcel
amber oracle
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IF you are both intent on doing the weeing show and tell. Please set the terms for it before you start it.

brisk parcel
#

did you just notice that I said that I NEVER said they were a clone?

thick plank
#

Even sound staging and imaging is as far as it can get comparing the 2

last plinth
#

Are they good?

west hornet
brisk parcel
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yeah lots of people use them as their go-to for the LD mk2

thick plank
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They share nothing with the 500

amber oracle
#

because you are both stamping your feet and missing what the other is saying from my pov

brisk parcel
#

I understand what you're saying

thick plank
#

They do however share tamber, mids, trebble, sound staging, imaging, and detail and speed with the deva

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With slightly lower bass cause the pads

amber oracle
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so please, try and actually reason it out instead.

brisk parcel
#

but, I don't think that they would straight up LIE about the diagram of a driver

amber oracle
#

the community at large is better served IF you BOTH can do that

thick plank
#

They also share the physical driver piece to piece and the same chasis

west hornet
thick plank
#

I just sent an image of the driver

tacit wing
thick plank
#

There is no magnet

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So if we ignore physics that claim isn't even true

amber oracle
#

@thick plank have you ever heard that "yelling louder" is not a solution?

thick plank
#

@amber oracle issue is him making objective claims and acting as if they are opinions...

amber oracle
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not answering the question.

tacit wing
brisk parcel
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^^^

thick plank
#

He can say he likes the deva and 5xx cause he likes for example high and loud highs and likes a metallic sound

daring zenith
#

@west hornet with type 2 I'd format it without the spacing for the second line lol

west hornet
thick plank
#

Maybe he listens to only transe music

last plinth
thick plank
#

That would be valid

tacit wing
#

i can tell you didnt even read the thread you just skimmed throught it @thick plank

brisk parcel
#

I never said a word about them being an HE500 clone, nor did I rule out that they aren't a deva clone

amber oracle
#

@thick plank IF you are interested in "proving" anything. Go back, get the references. Then either Snip them or copy the post links. And formulate a response with that included

brisk parcel
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all I said was that I ordered them and will tell you what I THINK of them

amber oracle
#

because then the playing field is actually even

tacit wing
#

yup me too @brisk parcel i cannot say anything about the 5xx's until i get them in hand

amber oracle
#

Because as i said. You are both talking way past each other from my POV

thick plank
#

You cant however say "this has this part" when it doesn't or "this part (which is high heavy and has bass rolloff" sounds like this other product (which is the opposite)"

amber oracle
#

and i have no interest in having you two having a wee match here

thick plank
#

What you look for in a headset is subjective

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What a headset is and how jt acts isnt

amber oracle
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because as i said, it would be a loss for the community.

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Example for both of you:

brisk parcel
#

Naed I know and I'm sorry cause you're right I 100% got heated about this

tacit wing
#

What a headset is and how jt acts isnt
@thick plank have you even heard said headphones

west hornet
#

you could always just take this somewhere else 🙃

amber oracle
#

IF i start talking about details of my work, with the lingo I use. Both of you would be hopelessly lost inside of seconds. Which IF i was looking for a conversation about a topic, would be a SILLY thing for me to do

queen sigil
#

nead big brain 10000 iq

amber oracle
#

You are both using your own personal "i am used to this lingo" for describing things

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which makes you BOTH misunderstand what the other is saying

thick plank
#

@tacit wing deva I have and seeing as it is physically a deva with different pads I guess I have heard the 5xx too with different pads

amber oracle
#

so instead of being hellbent on proving the other "wrong"

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how about you BOTH focus on ACTUALLY understanding the other

queen sigil
#

i have no clue what the context of this situation is but I gotta agree

amber oracle
#

because IF you cannot take the time to do that, you are both VERY much showing that you have a LOT of growing up to do.

tacit wing
#

funny because i just did a paper on empathy

amber oracle
#

but what do i know. I am just a grumpy old man

thick plank
#

None of this is at all a point of view related thing. When talking about a physical detail there is no opinion involved @amber oracle

brisk parcel
#

I understand what you're saying completely, I'm trying to show you that there is other evidence you need to look at

west hornet
#

🤦

tacit wing
#

you are entirely missing the point Fortnut

amber oracle
#

When people have their heads up their bums @thick plank

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its VERY much a case of opinion

last plinth
#

Dino whats ur main amp and dac

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Its schtack right

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@tacit wing

tacit wing
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yessir

amber oracle
#

because from what i understand of biology. Its really hard to see the point of view of the person you are talking with from there

last plinth
#

What about headphones

thick plank
#

@tacit wing the point is both sides should respect rhe others opinion hence why I said he can say it is good all he wants if he says why he likes it and what for but he can't make objectively wrong claims on physical aspects because that isnt an opinion

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If my leg hurts then how much it hurts is an opinion but if I get an xray and it isnt broken and I say it is broken I am lying, not giving my opinion

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So if someone states "it isnt broken" they arent disrespecting my opinion

west hornet
#

schiit stack and jds stack are both very popular at the budget, im pretty sure i've even seen people do a mix of both, modi and atom i believe?

thick plank
#

They simply are correcting my false claim

brisk parcel
#

it's not an objectively wrong claim if I have facts and articles to back it up, right?

#

I could probably do a google search right now to tell you that having magnets on both sides is a thing

thick plank
#

It is objectively wrong because you claimed the driver is using 2 9 row magnet arrays and as demonstrated it is 1

west hornet
#

have you ever heard that "yelling louder" is not a solution?

thick plank
#

And that is ignoring the physics side where if you have equal push and pull you cant move a part

brisk parcel
#

okay, so if it's one, they're basically lying completely to everyone on drop, right?

tacit wing
#

yeah i have grown past of how much you dislike the 5xx's because of its innate characteristics and similarities of the Devas. whether they are the same drivers or not, my ears are the ultimate judge as a consumer @thick plank

thick plank
#

So the driver wouldn't move

brisk parcel
#

but that's the thing, it's possible to have magnets with different strengths on both sides

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for more precision

#

I am seriously about to post a how-to-geek article in here

tacit wing
#

but we must listen to @amber oracle and have a discussion with Layman's terms rather than have a pissing competition

thick plank
#

@tacit wing they objectively are the same driver with the same electrical impedance and same sensitivity which alone wouldn't mean much but we also can see both are the same 4 trace 4 hump pattern and both have the same magnet array and again other than bass from the pads measure the same which doesnt just suggest they are the same driver

#

It just shows they are

brisk parcel
#

yeah dino I know you're right lmao

tacit wing
thick plank
#

There isnt any if or but about it

#

Again, if you like transe or metallic tamber they both can still be good

last plinth
#

dude i cant

tacit wing
#

Cholax gave me the biggest headache in this channel but someone else just took the crown

west hornet
#

i feel like we are in a court case rn

thick plank
#

But outside of that the 4xx is faster and more detailed with a slightly wider sound stage and muc more natural tamber which for most people will be better

tight pulsar
#

okay i just got back from dinner where we at on this convo

brisk parcel
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"What makes the whole setup work is a series of precise and evenly-spaced magnets on both sides of the thin, electrically-active diaphragm material. Hence the name, planar magnetic: magnets acting on a flat plane. The magnets are so precisely cut and spaced that the diaphragm is perfectly held in the magnetic fields. This wide and flat layered construction makes planar magnetic headphones larger in diameter than most full-sized dynamic headphones, but somewhat “thinner” in the cups."

that is DIRECTLY from the article on what a planar magnetic even is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#

just please, slow down

#

and read that

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and tell me how it's wrong

#

because I'm pretty sure they fact-check their stuff

west hornet
#

@tight pulsar oh nothing much

brisk parcel
#

^

thick plank
#

It is wrong because physics and because there is no magnets on the other side...

tight pulsar
#

oh cool

thick plank
#

It is a plannar because the copper pattern instead of coil and magnet rows/plane instead of a single circle

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And those 9 rows are on 1 side

brisk parcel
#

why do you say plannar

#

it's planar

#

I can stoop that low and I really don't want to

#

on the side of physics, it makes total sense that magnets would be on both sides

last plinth
#

Ninja what are ur thoughts on sennheiser game zero

brisk parcel
#

that's what the electrical current running across the driver plane is for, right?

#

@last plinth idk, never tried them but I'm sure there are better options

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https://www.howtogeek.com/327846/what-are-planar-magnetic-headphones/

How-To Geek

The world of audiophile hardware is dense and hard to parse… and to be perfectly honest, audiophiles seem to like it that way. Even so, a technology called “planar magnetic drivers” is making its way into cheaper and more accessible headphones as of late, promising audio fidel...

west hornet
#

1 question @last plinth are you planning on getting anything anytime soon or is it going to be awhile

brisk parcel
#

here's the article so you can look as well

last plinth
#

A while

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I just want best

west hornet
#

than i would say dont worry about it for now, you can come back asking closer to when you get them. although you can look up reviews and such on headphones that a lot of people mentioned here in the mean time

#

current reviews would be best

thick plank
#

The current through the copper traces creates a magnetic field which pushes against the magnet. The advantage of a planar there is the plane is flat so it won't desync like a dynamic from inner to outer so they dont have as harsh of rolloff and the other advantage is the ability to make thinner and lighter diaghrams allowing more speed as a result and more detail. That magnetic field would do nothing if you had it pushing on 2 sides...

#

But again

#

Don't take my word for jt and you can ignore physics too

brisk parcel
#

how would the magnetic field do nothing if it's on both sides? you create perfect suspension

thick plank
#

But light doesn't lie and the light that reached any camera that snagged a picture shows no front magnet

#

And there are more images of the same thing

last plinth
#

What are u guys even arguing about

brisk parcel
#

"Like a dynamic driver, the sound in a planar magnetic driver is generated by regulating the electrical flow through wires suspended in between magnets. But like an electrostatic driver, the diaphragm mechanism is replaced by directly vibrating a large, flat film, allowing for more precision and range. Combining these operational principles allows planar magnetic drivers to be constructed in smaller, cheaper speakers and headphones (at least compared to extremely expensive electrostatic hardware) that can still generate much better sound than ordinary dynamic speakers and headphones."

this is the second paragraph right below it ^^^^^^^

#

also about what you're saying with the magnets on the 5xx

#

so it would be hard to tell

#

also, I looked for that image and I can't find it, can you link it?

#

I also just noticed the lines on it, and it looks like the lines are showing two different rows of magnets

thick plank
#

Pretty sure from how they curl on the edge they are filtering or they are a padding but id they were magnets your claim that it is a different driver because of that still wouldn't work

brisk parcel
#

I only see one side on that, do you have a better picture?

#

I still can't find that 5XX picture

#

@tacit wing did you see that we get an extra $10

#

on drop

#

mega pog

#

aight I'll be back later I got some HW to do

tacit wing
#

wtf lol

#

i will get my Porta Pros for 8 dollars

#

@brisk parcel aPES_Zoom

brisk parcel
#

POG

queen sigil
#

wait what

#

8 dollar

#

where

brisk parcel
#

yeah look at the article on drop, and Leo we have drop rewards

queen sigil
#

dang

tacit wing
#

@queen sigil they messed up somehow and gave us free 10 dollars

#

and i have another 10 dollar reward on top of that

brisk parcel
#

so they didn't mess up actually

tacit wing
#

so i can get porta pros for 8 dollars

brisk parcel
#

the headphones got to the warehouse early and went out early as well

tacit wing
#

its the good kind of mess up

queen sigil
#

so it's just a 28$ fair of headphones

#

not 8 dollars

#

dang

tacit wing
#

i mean i could save up for a 789

#

but idk

brisk parcel
#

the best mess up

#

dino you might end up getting yours on the day you're supposed to anyway lmao

tacit wing
#

are ETA's even accurate at this point?

keen aurora
#

anyone here build custom keyboards?

tacit wing
#

@queen sigil

west hornet
#

@tight pulsar

queen sigil
#

YesS

#

who tag

tight pulsar
#

yeah thats my name

queen sigil
#

hi nachos

tight pulsar
#

also imma be biking in like 10 minutes so probably cant answer rn

queen sigil
#

do u do

#

mtb

#

or raod bike

#

road

#

or do u just

tight pulsar
#

mtb

tacit wing
#

i miss mtbing

queen sigil
#

casually bike

#

Do u do XD

#

XC

#

enduro

#

or downhill

west hornet
#

no biking nachos

tight pulsar
#

yeah we have mainly xc trails here but dh is nice ive been up to a small dh park

queen sigil
#

anyone here build custom keyboards?
@keen aurora yes hi

#

Dh is fun

tacit wing
#

i misspoke its actually 38 dollars

queen sigil
#

but last time I got bucked really hard late at night

#

and I had a heart attack

#

so I stopped

tacit wing
tight pulsar
#

night rides are fun

#

its like pitch black rn and its only 6:30 vs like 8:30 when we did it in summer

keen aurora
#

nice I just built kbdfans mkii with holy pandas and gmk's

#

i love keyboard now

#

i want an alice next

queen sigil
#

cool

#

do u mean liek the kbd75 mk2?

brisk parcel
#

lmao @tacit wing pog

keen aurora
#

nah the 67

queen sigil
#

o

keen aurora
#

what builds you got?

queen sigil
#

with real holy pandas or cheapo pandas

keen aurora
#

cheap drops

#

lubed of course :^)

tight pulsar
oak fractal
#

What extended mouse pads (the ones that cover the whole desk) would you guys recommend?

queen sigil
#

as long as it's a soft mousepad any should be fine

late pier
#

anyone build their own keebs?

keen aurora
#

you can get custom ones for cheap now

queen sigil
#

anyone build their own keebs?
@late pier yes

keen aurora
#

and theyre pretty big too

tight pulsar
#

yes and yes

keen aurora
#

ye

#

id post a pic but I cant

late pier
#

hey so im trying to build a keyboard that is pretty budget friendly and Im having trouble choosing what parts I can get cheaper than others anyone know what I should do about that?

keen aurora
#

lol goodluck

queen sigil
#

Define budget friendly

#

And what formfactor

tight pulsar
#

aight ive gtg so dont ping me for the next hour or so

queen sigil
#

alr seeya nachos

late pier
#

like under 300 preferably closer to low 200s and 60%

queen sigil
#

oh yeah that's totally dooable

keen aurora
#

tofu is cheap idk the exact price tho

queen sigil
#

as long as you stick away from like GMK keycaps and stuff

late pier
#

Ya I know its dooable Im just wondering like how much I should spend on a plate or a case or keycaps stuff like that

queen sigil
#

like you could probs get keycaps for 40$

#

Switches from 30-60$

#

a board for 150ish

late pier
#

ya i got alpacas for 35

keen aurora
#

depends if you want acoustics on the keycaps it wont sound a sgood but itll feel great

queen sigil
#

If you got some time to wait

#

IDK if they're doing another drop

#

but NK65 is hands down the best budget keeb

#

100$

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65%

late pier
#

Thats cool

queen sigil
#

comes with coiled cable and caryying case

late pier
#

oooo nice

queen sigil
#

they have like glow in the dark case options

late pier
#

what site does that sell on

queen sigil
#

polycarb I think

#

NOvelkeys

late pier
#

nice

queen sigil
#

But it's a group buy

late pier
#

ye

queen sigil
#

and they sell out in underr a day

late pier
#

ya I bet

last plinth
#

Link it

keen aurora
#

if you want alu kbd has the low profile 65% for 125

late pier
#

and what does it come with

keen aurora
#

pcb plate and case

late pier
#

ooooo thats a great price

#

could you link it

keen aurora
#

heres one

#

cant send links

#

lol

queen sigil
#

Just look at the NK website

late pier
#

k

queen sigil
#

it should be unde keyboards

keen aurora
#

make sure u do be hittin that lube tho

#

very worth it

late pier
#

ya of course

last plinth
#

@brisk parcel so ld mk2 with what tubes?

#

Link tubes

#

I want good ones

#

Good treble and bass

#

More treble than bas

brisk parcel
#

I thought I did but here

last plinth
#

Ninja do you have a magni heresy

#

Or magni 3

brisk parcel
#

I have neither but have tried a magni 3

#

tbh, it's a pretty standard amp, nothing special

#

it's been a while and I only listened for 15 tracks or so

mild latch
#

Having owned a magni 3, not the 3+, I concur. It does its job well, but isn't anything special.

last plinth
#

Is it as good as ld mk2

mild latch
#

I haven't tried any tube amps, sorry.

last plinth
#

Asking ninja

#

@brisk parcel

#

Can u notice a difference between magni and ld mk2

brisk parcel
#

yeah, tubes have that "tubey" sound

#

warmer, a little wider(the mullard CV4015 at least), more natural sounding to my ears

#

not a full tube amp

last plinth
#

Is it better?

brisk parcel
#

for me, since I'm all about warmth and fuzziness and soundstage and really feeling like I'm "in" the music, yes

#

sennheiser cans do love tubes I can confirm that

last plinth
#

Does ld mk2 come with cables needed

brisk parcel
#

it does

last plinth
#

wakt

#

Wait

#

So do i get ld mk2 or magni

brisk parcel
#

like I said, I believe you'll have more fun with the ld

#

regardless if it's your first time getting into audio stuff or not

#

but, you'll enjoy both. since you're getting cans that benefit from the tubes, I would learn towards the LD NOW and the magni or another solid state amp later

last plinth
#

I think imma tet magni heresy

#

Sike just kdding

#

Me get ld

brisk parcel
#

awesome

#

remember if you're curious about other tubes just look at that article I sent earlier

last plinth
#

Is it decent for gaming tho

brisk parcel
#

does the job just fine

last plinth
#

ok

brisk parcel
#

for my taste, better than the magni. I know that you want to be competitive but I encourage you, strongly, to give it a try

#

you could even make that a thing you have now, and buy the PC later

#

you don't need a good PC for the audio equipment lmao

mellow leaf
#

Hey

#

I’m looking for headphones and I’m at Walmart rn

#

There’s also razer and Logitech

west hornet
#

lol

tacit wing
#

if you have to get something from that rack id get clouds. but id look for the exit if i were you

mellow leaf
#

Okay clouds it is

tacit wing
mellow leaf
#

Which one

tacit wing
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doesnt matter. cloud 2 or alphas

mellow leaf
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Okay

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That have the stinger

tacit wing
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i wouldn't get that

mellow leaf
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Oh

tacit wing
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clouds are basically rebranded Takstars

mellow leaf
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Okay cloud II

tacit wing
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which are decent reference headphones

last plinth
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Imma just get cloud 2

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@brisk parcel

west hornet
last plinth
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Or keep

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6xx

brisk parcel
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keep the 6XX

west hornet
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just wait for decision until closer when you actually looking to buy

tacit wing
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no matter how much i want to sway people away from "gaming" audio i realize that alot of them are adequate enough for the average consumer

last plinth
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Ninja hear me out

tacit wing
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the marketing still makes me cringe tho

brisk parcel
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oh god

last plinth
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Schiit stack + dt 880

tacit wing
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any reason why u want the Beyers?

last plinth
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Or dt 990

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cost less and comfy

brisk parcel
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you are not going to enjoy the hiss based on what you listen to, but I can't MAKE you decide, I can only help

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I still recommend the 6XX, 990 aren't bad but you have the budget to spare so 🤷‍♂️

tacit wing
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fair enough. ill be happy with any decision u make cntrl

last plinth
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I dont really have the budget

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Also ld mk2 is confusing

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At this point im just gonna get cloud 2’s

tacit wing
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lol

brisk parcel
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remember, I made a promise to you that I would never recommend anything to you again if you're gonna spend all that money and get sub-par audio

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it's not sub-par, but for your budget?

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crazy sub-par

west hornet
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as i said, if you want sweet and simple but have the money for something like a 6xx and such, pc38x is a very nice option

last plinth
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My budgets like 500

brisk parcel
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then you can 100% get what we recommended

last plinth
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If its lower it would be better

brisk parcel
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it's 1000% worth it

mild latch
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I would prioritize the headphones themselves and upgrade source later, but it's up to you

tacit wing
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after the countless discussions youve had with countless of people you cannot possibly settle with just Clouds 2's

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theyre by no means a bad headset but cmon

brisk parcel
west hornet
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lol what is going on here

last plinth
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But do i really want to

mild latch
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Ninja has a good point, tubes are pretty sexy

brisk parcel
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^^^^

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gets all the ladies 😎

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lmao

last plinth
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The chance of me not liking them are really high

brisk parcel
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okay, let me ask you why>

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?*

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you have no clue what to expect

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TRUST ME

mild latch
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I'm using LCD-2s, so I went full solid state, but I do want a tube amp or pre at some point

brisk parcel
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I owned the cloud 2s for THREE YEARS

last plinth
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Just to be safe

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I get dt 880 and schiit stack or something

brisk parcel
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you're going to be very safe with the 6XX

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like I said you can do whatever you want but

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doesn't mean I wont recommend something else based on your taste

last plinth
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Recommend

west hornet
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the 6xx is the most safe option in general, most people that try them like their sound signature

brisk parcel
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because at this point you might as well buy the 880 for gaming and the 6XX for music because that's what you're showing right now

last plinth
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Purely imaging and soundstage

brisk parcel
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then the 6XX

last plinth
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I dont wanna buy 2 headphones

mild latch
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That's what everyone says before they buy 2 pairs of headphones

brisk parcel
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if you want purely imaging and soundstage then get the 6XX

tacit wing
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I dont wanna buy 2 headphones
@last plinth yes you do

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youre gonna want atleast 4

brisk parcel
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if you don't, then the 880

last plinth
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I cant tho

brisk parcel
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because they're closed back

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and the treble is

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well

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very bright

thick plank
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"990 aint bad" they really are though

last plinth
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I dont want little dot

thick plank
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Like nothing they do is goof

tight pulsar
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aight im back

tacit wing
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ok here we go

brisk parcel
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alright

thick plank
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*good

brisk parcel
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let's use that newfound wisdom

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cntrl, can you tell me why you don't want it?

thick plank
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Theybhave loud highs but they are disgusting sounding and image too close so even if you like highs they arent good for that

last plinth
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Expensive

thick plank
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880 beats them in imaging and sound stage for the price and so does the 4xx

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4xx is faster and more detailed

brisk parcel
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but totally worth it

west hornet
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we dont even need to talk about this if you not getting anything soon anyway lol

thick plank
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They have yucky and not accurate mids

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And bass rolls off quickly in spite of being somewhat present in some ranges

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990 are just bad

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880 are fine for like 1 thing but mostly I dont like them and that is basically gaming

brisk parcel
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alright cntrl, so yeah it's 100% expensive

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like don't get me wrong

last plinth
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i should take advantage of my ears not being introduced to audiphile

mild latch
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I got lucky and had an audio shop within driving distance where I got to try out dozens of headphone models. I would recommend trying to do that since apparently you have some time until you buy.

amber oracle
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@thick plank question: the 990 you are talking about, is that the Beyerdynamics?

mild latch
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To answer for him, yes

west hornet
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yes it is naed

thick plank
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Yea @amber oracle