#peripherals-and-displays

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queen sigil
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i thinkl

daring zenith
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Yea

queen sigil
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and alps and choc switches

daring zenith
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Romer g is logitech

queen sigil
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but id recommed either kbdfans or glorious

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but youre basically just feeling for keyweight

daring zenith
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Eh, and how it sounds and such.

queen sigil
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because with 100$ you could basically buy premium switches for your prebuilt

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1000$

daring zenith
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(if the prebuilt is hotswappable)

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And that might be a typo

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Maybe they meant 100usd

queen sigil
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idk

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he said 1k

normal barn
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I said below 1k

queen sigil
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well you voulf get a hawswap kit for 200$

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and say keycaps for 100

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and say switches for 100\

daring zenith
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Keycaps for 100$...

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What kinda

normal barn
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lol

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ikr

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well

daring zenith
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Gold plated caps

queen sigil
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wdym

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like gmk

normal barn
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if im going for rbg

queen sigil
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OH YEAH

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rgb

daring zenith
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Gmmk is like 30$ caps

normal barn
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imma get hyex pudding keycap

queen sigil
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ok so more like 30$ for keycaps

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i mean i wouldnt go for OEM keycaps

normal barn
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or if im not going for rbg then gmmk smaurai

queen sigil
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since they just dont sound too good

daring zenith
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Switches could be up to like 50$ for average switches, ig I can see 100$ for really expensive stuff

queen sigil
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its like 20$

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for cheap switches

daring zenith
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Whew

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300$ amp dac

queen sigil
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normal barn
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wahhhh

queen sigil
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just get the gmmk keyboard with no switches and keycaps

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and order maybe ink blacks

normal barn
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ok

queen sigil
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but also order a switch tester

normal barn
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barebones

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keyboard

queen sigil
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yes

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u can order whatever keycapsu want

daring zenith
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Ink switches?

queen sigil
daring zenith
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Huh

cunning hearth
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Wut cherry switches are similar to romer g

normal barn
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sounds pretty nice

queen sigil
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alo get wire cutters and some dielectric greae

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grease

daring zenith
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What's the difference between inks and just normal Gateron switches?

normal barn
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ye

queen sigil
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to lube ur stabs and clip ur stabs\

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the housings

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are thicker i think

daring zenith
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Huh

queen sigil
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the switch housings

daring zenith
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What do you need to clip your stabs for?

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Yea

queen sigil
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they sound like 300x better

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andheel better

daring zenith
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I mean, what part do you clip?

queen sigil
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a part at the bottem

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idk what stabs the GMMK comes with

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just saying

daring zenith
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Gotcha

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I'll take a look at some point

timber ridge
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band aid mod and clipped stabs >

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the regular viper is 40 rn

sharp kindle
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@queen sigil i think Glorious updated their stabs

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pretty sure their like chinese screw ins or something but their p good

queen sigil
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i MEAN AT LEAST THEY'RE SCREWIN

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caps

amber oracle
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edit is a thing.

timber ridge
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must type really fast to not notice you were typing in caps

queen sigil
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I was watching a videa so i wasnt looking at dicord

timber ridge
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gg

gloomy leaf
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is there a chat for like fans

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and controllers

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like fan hubs

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or anything

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or this it

queen sigil
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I would say that's it

gloomy leaf
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ki

brisk parcel
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Yeah the mayflower arc is good stuff

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But there are other options as well, some on-par, some worse, probably some better too

tight pulsar
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is fortnut here to insult it :P

brisk parcel
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😂

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Idk is he...

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I’m at work so I can’t argue much

amber oracle
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well

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aside from all of you needed to tone down the language a bit. it dont see it as arguments

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if anything, its fairly healthy debate

tight pulsar
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whats the difference between an argument and a debate

brisk parcel
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Busy day over here in the world of “hey I manage all these hotels and if you need help call the Lefcon helpdesk :)” which would make our life a living he’ll because we don’t manage half the hotels this one guy oversees

amber oracle
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debate = exchange of viewpoints

placid junco
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Hello world

brisk parcel
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^^^

placid junco
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2 weeks of having corsair virtuoso

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LOVING THEM

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to all the haters who said dont buy them

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HAHAHA

brisk parcel
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Well I’m glad you like them at least

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It’s a perspective thing lmao

amber oracle
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we didnt tell you to "not" buy them @placid junco

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we told you that they sound horrible to our ears

brisk parcel
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Personally I’ve listened to them and they sound like ds

placid junco
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perspective shouldn't influence people out of a good product

amber oracle
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would you have preferred that we didnt say anything at all @placid junco ?

brisk parcel
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So, our perspectives are different because we’ve listened to lots of audiophile things

placid junco
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No naed wasn't directing that to anyone who is here online atm

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there is one guy

tight pulsar
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my cloud ii’s have the best sound around theyre better than ur corsair ones

amber oracle
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there is always one guy

placid junco
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that slammed corsair headphones

brisk parcel
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Are there better options? -00% there are

amber oracle
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and today, you are not that one @placid junco

brisk parcel
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100%*

amber oracle
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:P

placid junco
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Lol

brisk parcel
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I do definitely remember talking about this yeah and I do remember saying there are better options

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The farthest I went to telling you not to buy that was to have you watch Zeos’ review of them

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They’re a beauty to look at they really are, but the sound is just lackluster IMO

amber oracle
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there are very very few things i will straight up say you should not buy

brisk parcel
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^

tight pulsar
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what are they naed :p

queen sigil
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naed how do u know liek everything

amber oracle
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@queen sigil its called having lived a while :)

brisk parcel
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One of those for me is the Arctis Pro, the $350 BS from steelseries

queen sigil
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dang I can't say i've done that yet

brisk parcel
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Alright I’m back to work

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Enjoy guys

amber oracle
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also helps that i am fairly curious by nature

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enjoy Senn

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@tight pulsar nothing specific as such. because it loops back around to the "there are no bad products, only bad prices" sentence

brisk parcel
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Just call me Lone or Nick

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Doesn’t matter

normal barn
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so like for my keyboard i want it to be good for typing and gaming

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@brisk parcel best amp/dac/soundcard/eq combo?

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@brisk parcel ikr artic pro is too overpirced and overrated

amber oracle
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@normal barn do you not remember a single thing you have asked about before?

normal barn
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lol

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me no have good memories

amber oracle
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that is what history is for

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ctrl+f

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have fun

normal barn
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bro what

tacit wing
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@normal barn do you not remember a single thing you have asked about before?
@amber oracle same attention span as a house fly

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fortnut REAAAALLY loves his 95x's

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we dont agree on alot of things but that i can commend him with

tacit wing
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balanced pentaconn cable

normal barn
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da faq

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300

amber oracle
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read and absorb info before you copy/paste it here @normal barn

tacit wing
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they are very pricey but i wouldnt fork out 300 for one. if i needed one i would go for a reputable aftermarket like Hart or Periapt cables

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but also you dont need it @normal barn 100%

normal barn
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lol

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ik

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just saw this on amazon

timber ridge
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is there benefits to cable upgrades

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ik ppl with iems get cable mods n stuff

tacit wing
normal barn
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i am literally rofl

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right now

timber ridge
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y

normal barn
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uhh

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join general one

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ill show u

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ill screenshare

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frick

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i cant

hazy fiber
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Should get my RCA cables today so I can finally switch to my schiit stack

tacit wing
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@hazy fiber yes

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how are you running your setup currently without cables?

hazy fiber
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Just on-board audio on my laptop

tacit wing
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surprised it can drive ur 6xx's

hazy fiber
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It's decent for a laptop

tacit wing
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unless ur using those lovely ANC cans

hazy fiber
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Naw, 6XXs when I can

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My rig at home has decent on board sound, but I'm at college

tacit wing
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so the schiit stack setup at ur college dorm or?

hazy fiber
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I wasn't going to, but it got delivered here by mistake. I'm not gonna complain lol

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So yes

tacit wing
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curious to how the Heresy sounds like in comparison to the Magni

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a reviewer says it sounds as detailed as an Atom amp

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more similarities to Atom than Magni

normal barn
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huh

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i need a stack

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maybe

hazy fiber
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Can't compare, but I can give my opinon without another amp as a reference point

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🙂

west hornet
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most say that the heresy and the 3 are near impossible to tell apart

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but idk

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hazy fiber
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I just got it for the looks

tight pulsar
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can we call it the hershey

tacit wing
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obviously can tell u like black and red

west hornet
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yeah pretty much, black went better with setup lol

tight pulsar
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im going 3+ if i get it for dat keyboard match

tacit wing
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the silver looks more elegant imo but i wouldve went for the Hersey if i had a black and red theme going on

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MKBHD stack

hazy fiber
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can we call it the hershey
Legit thought that was the name when I ordered it lol

queen sigil
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gamer colors

tacit wing
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the only one that come close are iFi amps

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in terms of build

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or the Liquid Sparks

hazy fiber
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Ya, they are so solid

calm cobalt
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is 163hz better than 144hz refresh rate? There is a 163hz monitor that is cheaper than a 144hz one so I want clarification.

tacit wing
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i wouldnt fork out 200 on a stack with this amount of panel flex lol

daring zenith
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@calm cobalt ...163hz?

tacit wing
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is 163hz better than 144hz refresh rate? There is a 163hz monitor that is cheaper than a 144hz one so I want clarification.
@calm cobalt difference is marginal

daring zenith
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I'd check that again

calm cobalt
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165 i mean

daring zenith
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Depends on the panel

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Link it?

daring zenith
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Hm

calm cobalt
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what?

daring zenith
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I'm guessing that's a pricing error for 145$

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It'll be in stock in December, I'd wait and see

calm cobalt
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another question, is 1500R VA panel good?

daring zenith
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VA is suboptimal

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1500r tells you how curved it is

tight pulsar
tacit wing
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im pretty sure ive seen 144hz IPS panels for under 200 USD floating around

daring zenith
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G241 for 180$ comes to mind

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But the Acer IPS panel is often 180$ too

timber ridge
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pixio too

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o and sceptre

thick plank
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perspective shouldn't influence people out of a good product
@placid junco i mean what other products have you used? Cause you can't exactly call something good without reference points. If I heard a void pro and nothing else ever and the void pro was $100 I would call it great but if j heard a ur30 first which is 25usd and the void pro after I would ask why the void pro isn't $3 or 4 usd after

placid junco
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well

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if i ask for a good headset

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just cause u like corsair

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dont talk someone out of corsair

thick plank
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Not to say you can't enjoy them but you cant use a comparative term without a reference point

placid junco
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??

thick plank
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dont talk someone out of corsair
@placid junco i talk people out of them because objective reasons

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Audio isnt subjective at all other than what frequencies you like mostly

daring zenith
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talk em out of Corsair >:P

placid junco
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my corsair

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work perfectly fine

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what u talking about

thick plank
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They objectively have a thin and small sound stage with slow drivers that can't get much detail and very little imaging directionally

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Infact, the drivers image almost 2d

placid junco
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??????????????

thick plank
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But with 2 2d points

placid junco
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I needed headphones

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these work perfect

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for headphones

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idk about ur science behind it

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but they work great for a headset

thick plank
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They work

placid junco
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yes

daring zenith
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ha

thick plank
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Great requires a reference

daring zenith
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there's the problem

placid junco
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???

thick plank
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Great relative to what and why

daring zenith
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your idea of good is "it works"

placid junco
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i said great

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not superior

daring zenith
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audiophiles' idea of good is "it sounds very nice in these specific ways"

thick plank
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If your idea of great is it works then you can go to dollar tree and save like $90

placid junco
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Idk what your on about

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get to the point

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Zzz

thick plank
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Which would make it nkt great as something else would match your definition at like 99% cheaper

daring zenith
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There's a huge difference between headphones that are good and headphones that sound studio quality basically.

placid junco
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@ me 5 hours later

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what point are you arguing

daring zenith
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none

daring zenith
placid junco
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If you're arguing that i can't call a headphone great because they aren't "x" model

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then dont @ me

daring zenith
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@placid junco

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I'm not :D

placid junco
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not u mr1111

thick plank
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That you can use your headphones and be happy but can't recommend them and call them great or good unless you have a reference to what they are good compared to

placid junco
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this fortnut dude

daring zenith
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Nor is he

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He's trying to give you the long explanation

placid junco
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fort

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who did i recommend them to

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?

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and even if i did

daring zenith
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who am I recommending pc38x to? >:D

placid junco
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they work

daring zenith
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I mean

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it's like giving a guy an optiplex for 1000$

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and it does work

placid junco
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it just depends what u want from ur headphones

daring zenith
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yea true it does work

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and to a guy who hasn't used a computer before, it's the best thing he's had

placid junco
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fornut must use aviation headphones

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or something

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idk what he on about

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back to what i was doing

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before i was rudely pinged

tacit wing
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@placid junco Guwop none of our opinions means sh!t

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when it comes to audio

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your ears are the best judge

placid junco
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not even that

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someone might not even care about how they sound or mic quality

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they just want a headset

daring zenith
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oh well

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it's our job to convert them

placid junco
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lol

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like u do the corsair ppl

daring zenith
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if they only want something that works

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I'm not just standing at a distance and poking corsair either, I own a Corsair HS60

west hornet
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lol

daring zenith
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doesn't sound different from apple earpods

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not a joke

placid junco
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yea

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those earpods work

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someone might want those

thick plank
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@tacit wing audio isn't subjective. I can subjectively say I like a lit of highs but I canr subjectively say a lambda pro has more bass than an he5se

west hornet
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koss best budget

tacit wing
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you can easily say that numbers and measurements can be a factor on how certain cans can outperform others over another

placid junco
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someone might even call them great

daring zenith
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koss?

tacit wing
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but ears validate the measurements, not the other way.

thick plank
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@west hornet meh, depends on which proce range

daring zenith
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They ARE great >:D

placid junco
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@thick plank can i call airpods great?

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or is that out of line

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????

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do i need to try 10 products

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b4 i can call airpods GREAT

west hornet
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budget budget

last plinth
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Get 58x

placid junco
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cntrl

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did u ever get ur headset?

last plinth
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no

thick plank
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Although the 95x for anythingnother than people who need loyd bass and trebble makes basically most things into the several thousand dollar range useless for a lot of categories

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And the porta pro and ur 30 own the $25 to 100 range

last plinth
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But its common sense that u cant compare anything to anything unless you tried both of them

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Wait u spent 160$

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scammaz

placid junco
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who

last plinth
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You

placid junco
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na

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i spent $230

last plinth
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actually scammazed

placid junco
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in your opinion

last plinth
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Shouldve gotten 6xx at that point

placid junco
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i dont want any suggestions from cntrlkey

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LOL

west hornet
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audio is subjective, like how you just mentioned earlier that beyer makes no good headphones, i know several people that love their dt770 and 990 as their favorite headphones even tho trying others, not to mention many producers and studios use them

last plinth
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or even audio technica wireless ones

tacit wing
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dont make ppl feel like 💩 about their purchase

last plinth
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im not

west hornet
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im getting very close to breaking the filter

last plinth
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Im just saying a little bit of research before your purchase shouldve been needed

placid junco
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whos to say i didnt

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its the ones i liked

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whos u

last plinth
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ok

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im cntrlkey

west hornet
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trying the headphones yourself is best for a reason, not everyone likes the same thing, so if you want to continue to lead people to the specific headphones you see as better in measurements... get out SeriousEgg im not saying the info you give fortnut is wrong, you just piss me off

placid junco
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ooo yea

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the guy that trolls build lists

thick plank
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Shouldve gotten 6xx at that point
@last plinth 6xx aren't really good though. They are just good at mids but get beat in that too by a lot of headsets that don't cost much more

last plinth
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ok

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yea man im a troll

placid junco
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@thick plank If someone came to you and said recommend me a good headset, and that is all the information they gave you. What would you recommend?

tacit wing
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if it aint a 95x, fortnut says forget it

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or a porta pr

placid junco
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an

tacit wing
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or a ur 40

thick plank
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@placid junco I would ask them what they want to spend and give them options for a couple different uses

west hornet
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"6xx aren't really good though" - you can easily get a lot of people angry saying this

placid junco
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idk fort

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u seem kinda sketch

last plinth
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I was planning on getting 6xx

thick plank
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@west hornet because other than mods accuracy it isnt good at much

tacit wing
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hating on a set of cans because of its innate characteristics that arent even objectively bad is cringe

thick plank
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It doesn't image well and is known for a 3 blob effect

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Doesn't have much detail

last plinth
thick plank
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Has a pretty slow driver for the price (not terrible)

west hornet
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accuracy is not everything, accurate sound puts stress to many peoples ear and therefore cannot listen as long

thick plank
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Is great at mids accuracy but not detail

last plinth
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wait what

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Accurate sound?

thick plank
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Accuracy is all it has so by your own argument it isnt good

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@last plinth it has accurate mids

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Bass rolls off so bass heads won't like it either

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Sound stage is infamously small on them which leaves them not great fkr gaming either

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Don't get me wrong, I like the 6xx because I like mids

tacit wing
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imaging is more important in gaming, not soundstage

thick plank
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But other than mods lovers playing music and not games they arent good

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@tacit wing they are infamously bad in both

tacit wing
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audio for gaming isnt a tall feet to clear

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i can easily game with 30 dollar Koss'

thick plank
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They are known for imaging with 3 blobs and each blob just being for certain frequencies cause where those frequencies are prevalent create don the diaghram

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@tacit wing $30 loss are great for gamign

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Cause unlike the 6xx they image well and have a wide ish sound stage

placid junco
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@west hornet I think he is tunnel vision

last plinth
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I think

thick plank
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How? I literally just stated who it is good for and at what

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If you want those specific qualities it is a goof option at that proce

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If you want the other mentioned qualities it is bad at then it isnt

daring zenith
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@thick plank go sleep

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You're going to lose braincells if you go further

tacit wing
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bro said "6xx arent good enough" and a few min later "i like 6xx because i like mids"

last plinth
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6xx have good imaging and soundstage right

tacit wing
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i like the passion to get into the nitty-gritty of this stuff but this isnt exactly "consumer advice"

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6xx's are MORE than enough for most of us and only those looking for a certain sound signature will get nit-picky

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there is no one-all-be-all cans for around 200 dollar price range

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you will always have a set of compromises one way or another

thick plank
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6xx have good imaging and soundstage right
@last plinth no, they are famously used as an example of a headphone that can't image well or sound far.

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They are good at mids for 200usd though

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But unless that is your thing

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Like unless you just love gokd vocals they arent really good at much else at 200usd

brisk parcel
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NO

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NO I WILL NOT LET YOU TAIMT CNTRLS MIND

tacit wing
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here we go

brisk parcel
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IT TOOK ME WEEKS TO SHOW HIM THE LIGHT I WILL NOT HAVE YOU PLANT DOUBTS RIGHT NOW

thick plank
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And they used to be extremely good at mids for a wide portion of the market but recently the mids accurate headphone market has had some pretty compelling offerings at not much more money

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For imaging and sound stage though a porta pro is better than them

brisk parcel
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@last plinth don’t listen to him

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Be confident in your decision

placid junco
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lol

thick plank
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Would you like to tell him why nkt to listen to me?

placid junco
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yea dont let fortnut ruin ur decision

brisk parcel
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No one can tell you aside from@your own ears

thick plank
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Perhaps try to provide reasoning

brisk parcel
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From you*

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From your*

thick plank
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Maybe try to say what they are good at and bad at

west hornet
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something is like the hd6xx is also a safe bet being most people in the entry level enjoy them

thick plank
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And what alternatives there are

last plinth
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Honestly im down to get like 500$ headphones as long as i dont have to get a dac or amp with it

thick plank
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@last plinth 95x then

last plinth
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which is not possible i think?

thick plank
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If you want a 650 sound

tacit wing
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yup suggesting estats to a beginner

thick plank
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But with sound stage and good imaging

placid junco
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dino called that one

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LOL

thick plank
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@tacit wing and how is that bad?

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It aint like they are more difficult tonuse

west hornet
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estats are not for people getting into audio for first time

thick plank
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You plug them in and listen

last plinth
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i guess ill just get 6xx

brisk parcel
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^^^

thick plank
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They just sound better and more accurate

tacit wing
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if it aint a 95x it doesnt exists

brisk parcel
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Estats are not for beginners

thick plank
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Ironically they beat the 6xx in everything it is known for

last plinth
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what the heck is a estat

brisk parcel
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They require careful taking care of

thick plank
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Vocal fowardness and vocal accuracy

#

They also do that while having more bass impact

tacit wing
#

Ironically they beat the 6xx in everything it is known for
@thick plank have u seen the price difference

brisk parcel
#

Cntrl I’ll explain it when I can I’m not home rn

last plinth
#

ok

thick plank
#

Yep but they also are good at the things the 5xx is bad at @tacit wing

west hornet
#

and iirc ive heard a lot of complaints from people about the 95x, tho it was awhile ago so i cant remember, but decent for the price

thick plank
#

Lire detail which they are one of the best headphones at period even for an estat

last plinth
#

i doubt myself a lot

brisk parcel
#

Cntrl go with the Senns, it’ll give you a much better baseline for the future

thick plank
#

Unlike the 6xx which is just okay for detail

brisk parcel
#

DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM RIGHT NOW

thick plank
#

@last plinth what are you looking for in a headset

last plinth
#

I always think to myself “will i need these stuff? Im not even a audiophile”

thick plank
#

The 95x may also have the best vocal image all around

#

Like nkt just for the price

last plinth
#

but i also counter that with “music does sound nice sometimes”

thick plank
#

I mean like nothing can move a vocalist as forward and out of the picture

brisk parcel
#

We talked about this already man don’t even worry right now

last plinth
#

Who knows, if i really get into it ill save up for orpheus

thick plank
#

Meh, orpheus is overrated from what I hear

brisk parcel
#

I mean if you really want to go that route

last plinth
#

I dont want to go that route

#

:P

brisk parcel
#

Fortnut, stop. For the love of all things holy, stop

sharp kindle
#

at this point we need a separate channel for audio

brisk parcel
#

cntrl is very new and what we picked out will give him a very good baseline

thick plank
#

It is great compared to plannars and dynamics for sure

last plinth
#

I never knew the word “audiophile” existed

thick plank
#

But for certain things stax has cheaper options that beat it

tight pulsar
#

also estats suck ass at bass

brisk parcel
#

But you need to take good care of them, and there are other factors to consider

thick plank
#

@brisk parcel if he is getting it more for gaming the 6xx isn't a great baseline though

brisk parcel
#

He’s going for both

#

We’ve been over this

thick plank
#

And if for detail at that proce an estat or plannar are much better

last plinth
#

No its more towards gaming

#

@brisk parcel

brisk parcel
#

I know you’re going more for gaming but you care about both

#

That’s the point

last plinth
#

yea but if it leaned towards gaming more it would be pog

thick plank
#

@last plinth so something like a 4xx would be good

#

Pretty detailed and a good sound stage and imaging

#

They won't be as mid accurate

#

But other than that they will be fkr the most part better

last plinth
#

what do u think ninja

#

6xx?

thick plank
#

And if youbplan on spending $500 and want mids then the 95x

tacit wing
#

you want more treble for gaming since footsteps land higher around that frequency range

thick plank
#

Plus it comes with an energizer

tacit wing
#

990 pros

thick plank
#

An actually pretty good one if you replace the opamp chips

last plinth
#

ninja do i get 990 pros

thick plank
#

@tacit wing 990 pros aren't good for that either really. 880s are the good gaming beyers

tacit wing
#

990 pros wil make footsteps sing

brisk parcel
#

I think they’re both good but for you I still recommend the 6XX because they’re better for music overall than the 4xx and not that bad for gaming

tacit wing
#

good for competitive

thick plank
#

990 pros don't reallybdonthat

last plinth
#

I think imma get 990 pros @brisk parcel

tacit wing
#

the treble is bright on those cans what are u talking about

thick plank
#

They just make highs sibelant and all highs morph into one area which isnt good

#

They image highs too close too

last plinth
#

i thought 6xx was really good for gaming and not just music

brisk parcel
#

They are good, they’re good for both

#

Look I’ve gotta go

thick plank
#

No, they really aren't

brisk parcel
#

My gf is here

thick plank
#

They are good for vocals

last plinth
#

But for gaming 990 pro better option right

thick plank
#

And that is about it

tacit wing
#

also i can game with any cans suggested here, i am more meticulous towards music listening

thick plank
#

@last plinth 880 is better than 990 for that

west hornet
#

ye the 880s are better buy

thick plank
#

If you want louder highs

#

Like just straight up better

last plinth
#

Ok

brisk parcel
#

I will help you later @last plinth

thick plank
#

990 and 770 are just bad options for any user tbh

#

880 is good if you just purely game

last plinth
#

ok bet

thick plank
#

But the loud highs make them still more sibelant for certain sounds and I dont like them for music at all

tight pulsar
#

what dac/amp and headphones would you suggest for 350-400 then for gaming and music is everything we suggest is trash

thick plank
#

For the amp an atom cause low distortion for the price

tall wasp
#

can someone hepl

tacit wing
#

6xx + Atom Stack @tight pulsar

tall wasp
tight pulsar
#

yes what about that channel

tall wasp
#

I need help

#

😦

tacit wing
#

u can go Schiit as well but I reckon the Atom will scale better

#

or u can go Heresy stack

thick plank
#

Atom has much lower distortion

last plinth
#

What stack should i get for 880

#

Schiit?

thick plank
#

And doesnt see major distortion pickup at post or sub half load

#

@last plinth atom

tacit wing
#

zero distortion on magni on low gain

thick plank
#

About the same proce but just harmonically better

#

@tacit wing thaybisnt true

#

Also, the magni is notoriously high heavy

tacit wing
#

telling my ears what isnt true

last plinth
#

Dino do i get schiit or atom stack

thick plank
#

So fkr an 880 is is just not a good option

tacit wing
#

no measurements on low gain

#

never had to switch it on to high

tight pulsar
#

have you been comparing it to the 3?

tacit wing
#

the Magni provides a ton of power

tight pulsar
#

cause theyre on the 3+/heresy now and people say theres a noticeable difference

placid junco
tacit wing
#

Dino do i get schiit or atom stack
@last plinth depends on what cans youll get and also if you care about build quality or not

tacit wing
#

i have heard the heresy and the atom is very similar

thick plank
#

They arent

tacit wing
#

more comparable than the magni 3+

last plinth
#

Ill just wait for ninja

wraith roost
#

schiit and atom are both trash

#

and heresy is for scrubs

thick plank
#

@calm cobalt my girlfriend would probably know how to help you with that lmao

#

She is obsessed with anime

tight pulsar
#

nunu

#

its like 1100 on mechmarket tho kekw

tacit wing
queen sigil
#

TRUE

queen wadi
#

opinions on the viper ultimate? thinking of retiring my model o and going wireless

#

my choices are GPW, a classic/viper ultimate, amazing mouse/model o wireless, a familiar to me but not out yet

tacit wing
#

opinions on the viper ultimate? thinking of retiring my model o and going wireless
@queen wadi you will feel at home going V ultimate from the Model O

#

both shapes are similar to the FK1

#

GPW a more rounded shape more suitable for claw

queen wadi
#

i default to a blend of palm and claw

#

but if its similarly shaped im probably gonna go viper ultimate

tacit wing
#

yes

#

very similar shape

queen wadi
#

thank you

tacit wing
#

look at the comparison lol

queen wadi
#

damn

tacit wing
#

model O vs Viper Ultimate

queen wadi
#

wiat thats actually way more similar than i thought

tacit wing
#

basically Fk1 clones

queen wadi
#

the viper design makes it look way different

tacit wing
#

this shape is very common its copied so blatantly

#

look at the Ducky Feather same shape as well

queen wadi
#

lmfao it is

tacit wing
#

handy tool for comparing mice

#

if u wanna experiment and try something new GPW is very different with what ur familiar with

#

it might change the way u grip

queen wadi
#

yeah i just checked

sharp kindle
#

i will tell you that zowie has great shapes

queen wadi
#

model o vs gpw

sharp kindle
#

but honestly zowie is a stubborn company

tacit wing
#

yes lol

#

no paracord no PTFE no wireless

#

timeless shapes but thats kinda it

#

yup that extra ass on the GPW is a huge difference

queen wadi
#

thicc

#

lmao the difference between the first mouse i had for a little the harpoon vs my current daily

timber ridge
#

viper gang

#

i was tempted to get a regular viper since its basically 50 percent off but im not spending anymore

hazy fiber
#

I recommend checking out the dark core pro

#

Even the last gen is a really nice mouse for $50

sharp kindle
#

no

#

corsair dark pro?

#

no way

tacit wing
#

finally a fresh twist to the honey comb design

#

these hole mice are getting too boring

queen sigil
#

whats the fresh twist

tacit wing
#

put a thin piece of plastic over it

#

looks translucent

#

whats another mouse that looks like that?

queen sigil
#

but thats like

#

ruins the point

tacit wing
#

not really

queen sigil
#

its honeycomb to reduce weight

tacit wing
#

still manages a 68g weight

queen sigil
#

but ur gaining un neccessary weight

#

which if youre using a honeycomb mouse

#

sounds like you need light weight for some reason

hazy fiber
#

no way
@sharp kindle what's your problem with the dark core pro?

tacit wing
#

also some people dont like the sensation like myself

#

also rigidity

#

oppose to just thinning out the walls

queen sigil
#

i mean ur not supposed to use palm grip for most sketonized mice

tacit wing
#

lol no

#

why does the Skoll exist

#

EC1 clone meant to palm

queen sigil
#

but going back to the mouse

tacit wing
#

why does the Mountain Makalu exist, its too big not to palm it

queen sigil
#

you might as well just remove one of the layers

#

because whats the point of adding extra plastic on a mouse

#

where the point is that its light

#

but if for some reason that's an aestetic choice why do it to only small parts of the mouse

tacit wing
#

im just glad someone else is doing something different

#

because the market is getting over-saturated with the same thing

#

OVER and OVER again

#

you do have a point tho @queen sigil

#

but if Roccat just followed the crowd, they would make a boring mouse

queen sigil
#

also that mouse looks really long

#

and flat

tacit wing
#

its a direct competitor to the Viper Mini

#

pretty small

queen sigil
#

maybe my perspective of the image is off

tacit wing
#

oh yeah thats why people put like quarters or bananas next to stuff theyre showcasing for like a size reference

#

cant easily tell with pics

sturdy barn
#

Nice icon

thick plank
#

@tacit wing you are going to like this

#

I figured out how to fix the schiit magni 3

#

And mod it into a really high end amp

#

Issue i always knew for it was the opampa but it uses soil instead of dip

#

It uses cheap ass 60 cent opamps

#

But I found an soic to dip converter

#

So get 2 ss301 and 1 soic to dip converter

#

And boom, it is fixed

#

The opa 1678 is the issue basically

normal barn
#

Happy bday to me

solar raft
#

Happy birthday FeelsBirthdayMan

normal barn
#

thx

brisk parcel
last plinth
#

Feelsbirthdayman

brisk parcel
sharp kindle
#

@sharp kindle what's your problem with the dark core pro?
@hazy fiber for 80 - 90 bucks there are better options

tacit wing
#

@thick plank yknow what im intrigued

#

not exactly familiar with components inside my amp but i want to learn

#

do you have a link to a forum someewhere regrding this topic?

#

happy 13th @normal barn

normal barn
#

@tacit wing thx

#

finally legal for discord now

timber ridge
#

wooow

#

youre all grown now cholax

fiery basin
#

lmao

normal barn
#

LMAO

#

@tacit wing what mouse is that and how much is it

#

oh saw it nvm

thick plank
#

@tacit wing just open them up and use digikey

#

For the magni I can get you component numbers before I mod it

thick plank
#

Guess I could also get you the replacement part links

tacit wing
#

i dont plan to tinker on my amp

#

bc my ears dont detect any distortion on low gain

#

but i am interested on this modding procces ur talking about

sharp kindle
#

hbd cholax

normal barn
#

@sharp kindle thx

sharp kindle
#

oh yeah new glorious artisan mousepads coming out

#

kinda pog

tacit wing
brisk parcel
#

who said they weren't?!?

eternal beacon
#

😳

#

autograph

normal barn
#

@tacit wing u watch atla?

#

woahhhhh

tacit wing
#

yeah

#

i even read the comics but i stopped

normal barn
#

lol me 2

#

also

#

dino

#

is burst pro good

last plinth
#

Whats atla

tacit wing
#

but i havent seen legend of korra

normal barn
#

i just finsihed

#

@last plinth avatar?

#

the last airbener

last plinth
#

Oh

#

Who doesnt lmao

normal barn
#

no way

#

i missed this

#

dam 71 hr battery

#

if it had more buttons

#

dam

#

better than g pro wireless

#

prob

tacit wing
#

not for claw users

#

definitely not for claw users

#

not one mouse is better than the other because different hands like different shapes

normal barn
#

im palm

#

like im used to it

#

and sometimes claw

tacit wing
#

palm leans more toward ergo mice

normal barn
#

yep

#

i got the g502 because of it

#

i was tinking of model o

#

g502

#

g pro

#

and like razer viper

#

deathadder

#

i kinda want basilisk

#

wirels

#

wireless wit hdock

#

cuz like

tacit wing
#

You wouldnt like to palm an O or a Viper

normal barn
#

ik

tacit wing
#

its too flat

normal barn
#

thast hwy i got

#

g502 wireless

tacit wing
#

... you just said you were thinking of getting them

#

if you palm ur better off with a DA or G402

normal barn
#

ik

#

but like g502 fits me

#

now that i use it

tacit wing
#

or a Zowie EC or Skoll

normal barn
#

@tacit wing bruh

#

502 is 402 upgrade?

#

so like why 402

tacit wing
#

how tf is it an upgrade

#

its different shapes

normal barn
#

is the new deathadder wireless worth it

tacit wing
#

thats it

normal barn
#

it looks liek a upgrade to me

#

same overall shape

tacit wing
#

i misstyped i meant to say 403

normal barn
#

but 502 got thumb rest

tacit wing
#

the 403 is a different shape

normal barn
#

hhhh

#

ohhh

#

thi is g pro shape

tacit wing
#

no

normal barn
#

i was considering g pro

tacit wing
#

100% it is not g pro shape

#

G pro is an ambi

normal barn
#

bro u off ur bonkers

#

i like ergo???

tacit wing
#

that is not the same shape are u blind

normal barn
#

ehh

#

welp

tacit wing
normal barn
#

uhh what

#

da

tacit wing
#

not the same mouse

normal barn
#

ok then

#

whichc on is grpo

#

which is the other one

tacit wing
#

g pro is ambi

#

symmetrical on both sides

normal barn
#

wat

#

g pro s ergo

tacit wing
#

no its not

normal barn
#

ye it is

tacit wing
#

do u even know what that means

normal barn
#

ergo is right handed stuff

#

ambi is both hands

tacit wing
#

then tell me why the g pro has side buttons on the right side then

#

its ambi

#

its symmetrical on both sides

normal barn
#

uhh i felt it aight

#

i used it

#

its ergo

tacit wing
#

cholax will mald if he sees a lefty using a G Pro

normal barn
tacit wing
#

oh no

#

how will i recover

normal barn
#

lol

tacit wing
#

all my reputation has been shattered to the ground by an Amazon description

normal barn
#

LMAO

tacit wing
#

also the word ergonomics isnt just solely chained to it being "right hand" only

normal barn
#

reputional

#

lol

tacit wing
#

its simply just comfortability

normal barn
#

ehh

#

g pro is conforable

#

i agree

#

but 502 fits me

tacit wing
#

sitting up straight and proper posture is considered ergonomics

normal barn
#

just want a bit lighter

#

lol

#

even tho i put all the weight on it

#

for fps

tacit wing
#

but the G Pro is considered ambidextrous because both lefties and righties can use it

normal barn
#

and the scrool wheel for 502

#

is freaking amazing

tacit wing
#

omg ur mind just flies off elsewhere huh

normal barn
#

lol

#

@tacit wing how old are u again

#

i forgot

tacit wing
#

9

normal barn
#

23

#

nvm

#

well 22 rn

tacit wing
#

are u planning to buy me a present on my bday

west hornet
#

Amazon reviews scary

normal barn
#

uhh

#

if u get me sumthing ill get u suthing

#

that i promise

tacit wing
#

naw i will already be 6 ft deep by the time u decide on something

normal barn
#

naw

#

ehh

#

gimme a budget

#

and ill pick umthing within tmr

hazy fiber
#

@hazy fiber for 80 - 90 bucks there are better options
@sharp kindle theygo on sale/last gen -> makes it a very good option imo

tacit wing
#

honestly any price for a mouse, if the shape is for you, is worth it

normal barn
#

welp the 502 is 90 dollars rn

tacit wing
#

shape over everything

normal barn
#

@tacit wing get me a headphone or iem lol

#

i got it fro 110

#

the 502

tacit wing
#

im good man

normal barn
#

i got it for like 110

hazy fiber
#

Yeah. It's a heavy mouse which I like and fits my palm great

normal barn
#

yep me 2

sharp kindle
#

i can see it come into contention if it goes on sale

#

honestly doesnt look like a bad mouse

normal barn
#

@sharp kindle 502 wireless

#

is like 150

#

down to 90 ish

#

on amazon rn

#

so liek

#

ye

tacit wing
#

looks like a G604 competitor

#

the Dark Core Pro

normal barn
#

oh ye tat one

#

@tacit wing get me a cheap but good iem

#

less than 50

#

and ill get u sumthing too

#

@tacit wing yo dino

#

so like

#

do i need amps

#

for iems?

tacit wing
#

i am no IEM man

#

still, my answer to like most of your questions is: it depends

last plinth
#

Is there any mice similar to the g903

#

@tacit wing

tacit wing
#

502 lol

#

very different shapes

#

similar features

#

the shape of the 903 is very unique

last plinth
#

or ay good mice like it

tacit wing
#

youndont see very large ambis very often

last plinth
#

Any

tacit wing
#

in terms of similar shape no

last plinth
#

My friend bought a viper mini and got scammazed

tacit wing
#

???

last plinth
#

Too smol

#

well not scammaz

#

but like

#

you know what im tryna say

tacit wing
#

thats why u measure ur hands

#

anything over 18cm in length is a no go

last plinth
#

Well

#

lets assume that my friend has a hand size that is recommended for g903

amber oracle
#

lets assume that you give said friend a slap to the back of the head and tell them to measure their hand

last plinth
#

ok

amber oracle
#

now, go and measure your hand

last plinth
#

mine?

tacit wing
#

really your best bet with mice is to treat them like shoes, its always best to try them out in person. but with the pandemic going on thats kinda hard to do

last plinth
#

yea

tacit wing
#

and also not anyone has a neighborhood micro center

last plinth
#

17cm length 10cm wide

tacit wing
#

u have the same measurements as @timber ridge

#

and hes happy with his Viper Mini

last plinth
#

Im getting gpw

tacit wing
#

but still there could be other factors that would refrain u liking that mouse

last plinth
#

My friend is 18cm lemgth 13cm wide

#

fat finga

tacit wing
#

super wide hands lol

last plinth
#

yea

#

Hes like a football man

#

Wide reciever

tacit wing
#

Mountain Makalu 67

#

or EC1

last plinth
#

ok

tacit wing
#

G-Wolves Skoll Large

#

not the Mini

last plinth
#

I dont think he would like those

#

look bad

tacit wing
#

is it just iT LoOkS BaD or he just doesnt like holey mice

#

bc for a 13cm width u need something chonk

last plinth
#

he doesnt like the general look of ot

#

I dont think he minds not having a chonk

west hornet
#

Holey mice make me nervous

last plinth
#

phobia

queen sigil
#

g pro wireless gang

tacit wing
#

GPW is a safest shape

#

that fits alot of hand sizes and grips

#

the shape is designed to be universal thats why its selling like hotcakes

last plinth
#

Hopefully i can force myself to change my grip

#

palm is so scuffed

tacit wing
#

palm may provide the least ROM for micro adjustments but it doesnt mean you cant be good at it

amber oracle
#

@west hornet the only thing i see is a big ball of dead skin cells

west hornet
amber oracle
#

happy i could give you that mental image

#

dont worry, it wont ever go away @west hornet

west hornet
#

Time to get new mouse peepoSadSip

#

I should just get new camera too, has too much dust :(((

tight pulsar
#

give it to me KermitVader

west hornet
#

Never KermitVader

tacit wing
#

super stoked

last plinth
#

Why do audiophiles have different types of headphones

#

@tacit wing

#

what for?

tacit wing
#

sound waves me likey

amber oracle
#

@last plinth why do you want X ?

last plinth
#

?

#

whats X

#

@amber oracle

tight pulsar
#

whatever product u want

last plinth
#

X = product?

tight pulsar
#

yes

west hornet
#

This is math equation

tight pulsar
#

have u taken alegbra

last plinth
#

yep

west hornet
#

You failed

last plinth
#

i dont know what product he means tho

tight pulsar
#

then u should know x=variable

last plinth
#

Also i dont know what type of variable x is

west hornet
#

int

amber oracle
#

if you are not being daft on purpose.

west hornet
amber oracle
#

i would strongly suggest that you go back and tell your teacher that you are sorry for not paying attention, and that you would like to retake that course

tacit wing
#

99% of the stuff i talk about on here is more of a want than a need

#

it all started when @brisk parcel told me to get 58x's

#

but i am fully aware as a consumer that this hobby is may potentially turn unhealthy, but i swear ill settle down after the 5XX's

queen sigil
#

does anybody know anything about tropical linear switches It has a POM stem, Polycorbonate top, and a nylon bottom housing

tacit wing
#

but if anything headphones are a much better investment considering i burned 200 dollars just to have some anime girls on my screen so i can enjoy a dumb gacha game

open sail
#

Best mic to get?

queen sigil
#

Mic for what