#peripherals-and-displays

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muted vector
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What are good keyboard brands

proper sphinx
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Wdym that looks really nice

hazy fiber
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I'm not into the scimitars buttons, but otherwise it's a really nice mouse

muted vector
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Idk Iโ€™m not a big fan of blue and yellow

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Plus it wouldnโ€™t fit the aesthetic of my build

proper sphinx
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Ok

sharp kindle
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@muted vector RK61 or GK61 or GK64

muted vector
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Is rk royal kludge?

sharp kindle
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yep

warm scroll
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Do you have any recommendations @hazy fiber

cunning pewter
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any recommendations im looking for a excellent gaming mouse and keyboard my budget is 1k for them

tacit wing
soft oxide
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These office chairs running around a stack...jeez man

west hornet
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Tubes so pretty

last plinth
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Why is there light bulbs

tacit wing
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light bulb make music go ooooooWEEEE

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it also looks lovely PES_Blush

hazy fiber
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Do you have any recommendations @hazy fiber
@warm scroll if you have a use for those buttons it's great. My favorite is the dark core pro. It's not super small tho

tacit wing
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majority of mmo/moba targeted mice are mostly large and optimized for palm grip

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but i think even with small hands, its comfortable to palm

brisk parcel
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oooh

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love when my amp is literally that amp

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can't wait for wednesday

tacit wing
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@brisk parcel post pics

brisk parcel
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I will when I get it all in for sure

tacit wing
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if i decide to ever get one ill have to make room on my desk

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not my pic btw

last plinth
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@tacit wing wanna cheap down on my headphone stuff

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only mic tho

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i was gonna get wave 1

tacit wing
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no more 990's? @last plinth

last plinth
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imma get 990

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And amp

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wanna save on mic tho

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i need suggestions

tacit wing
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idk much about USB mics

last plinth
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might get rid of 990s

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by that i mean get 80ohm instead

tacit wing
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youre the most indecisive person on this server kekww

last plinth
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true

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what do u think

tacit wing
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either way the Fulla can power both of them

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so it doesnt really matter

last plinth
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no but with 80ohm i wont need amp right

tacit wing
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its always nice to have an amp

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but yes its not needed

last plinth
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what if i get 250ohm without amp and maybe get amp in future

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Would it cause any problems

tacit wing
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go 80

last plinth
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ok

sharp kindle
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lmao yeah ur really indecisive

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with everything

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like i think you still havent decided on a mouse yet

last plinth
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I have

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g pro wireless

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but might get superlight if it comes out

sharp kindle
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oh nice

tacit wing
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cntrlkey will come back later this week asking if X headphones are better than X headphones which was the one he was certain on getting a few days ago and its one endless loop

cunning hearth
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Lmao

high fulcrum
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Lol

brisk parcel
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@last plinth so ummm

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just as an FYI

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berodynamics do LOVE the power

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just because they have a lower impedance doesn't necessarily mean they are easier to drive

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give me a budget on like what you wanna spend max and I'll help you out if you want a few recommendations

last plinth
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including everything

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or just headphones

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Everything meaning headphones and mic

last plinth
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Everything is like 360

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Headphones are 200

tacit wing
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idk why you wouldnt want to squeeze in dac+amp with that budget

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its certainly possible

brisk parcel
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160 on a mic?

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that's a bit much for that budget IMO but not gonna judge

last plinth
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No its like 160

placid junco
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Cntrl

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LMFAO

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Cntrol

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what build list u on now

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number 37

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?

last plinth
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finally changed ur edgy name

placid junco
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?

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You should prolly do the same

last plinth
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no

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why do u take time out of ur day to type

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why

placid junco
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i need to buy a new headset

last plinth
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hyperx cloud alpha

placid junco
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let me check em out

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na

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those big and bulky

proper sphinx
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Mm751/752

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Gsp300

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Pc37x

placid junco
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my budget 300

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i want a usb one

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low profile

daring zenith
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@amber oracle alright, got a question for ya, so I understand Amps are required to drive high impendence headphones, but at which point do you need an amp? I don't really see any numbers for max supported impedance or whatever for say an ALC1220..?

placid junco
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would yall recommend that?

sharp kindle
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@placid junco no

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their bad

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anything steelseries is generally a yes

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anything hyperx

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cosair mics such

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suck*

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and the range on corsair wireless headsets suck

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dont spend 180 bucks on that

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just dont

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plus why do you care if your headset is bulky if you aint gonna see it?

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i mean

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i get if someone wants their keyboard and mouse to look good cause you kinda see it

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but not headset

placid junco
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true

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but

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are the steel series usb?

sharp kindle
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bruh i think

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they should be

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they have wireless too

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by usb do you mean wired usb or wireless with a usb dongle?

daring zenith
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pc37x

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is actually a really good headset :P

sharp kindle
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yeah it is

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open backed headsets arent for everyone though

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honestly i should leave headset reccomendations to you audiophiles

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take it away bois

acoustic matrix
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i cant remember what that one recommended phillips headset was but it was like a $70 range

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needing a headset, coming from wireless steel series

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artic 3 i think?

sharp kindle
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i think most steelseries headsets arent bad

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if you want wireless

acoustic matrix
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i want to eventually get into amps so something that will sound good

sharp kindle
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i think the wireless arctis one is the most affordable

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but if not

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hyperx has the best budget headsets

daring zenith
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Sennheiser is for dat mid-high budget

acoustic matrix
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i opted for it because i thought id want to use bluetooth but overall i never found much use for it. also i want to stay away from any form of latency lol

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I'd like both an amp and budget audiophile headphones somewhere around 180 total. Is that doable?

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what are ranges for entry amps and whatever else is used for getting good audio

daring zenith
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I think dt 990 pro is the go-to 'budget' audiophile headphone

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No idea on the amps tho

tight pulsar
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probably would be a little over but 990pro/58x's+e10k is a decent setup afaik

acoustic matrix
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hmm alright and thanks for each recommendation. fr trying to learn from zero experience

tacit wing
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I'd like both an amp and budget audiophile headphones somewhere around 180 total. Is that doable?
@acoustic matrix SHP9500's + Fulla 3 or E10k

acoustic matrix
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oou

tacit wing
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if u wanna go closed back go M40x

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but the SHP9500 is the best value that is if you can get your hands on it

placid junco
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I think ill just stick with these siberia x800s

acoustic matrix
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holy hell ๐Ÿ˜‚

last plinth
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ew

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Clean them

acoustic matrix
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way too many angles and that price hurt me

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amazon the best way to get a 9500?

tacit wing
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its discontinued

acoustic matrix
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i saw it available last month but didnt pull the trigger

tacit wing
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available on B&H

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u just have to scour around

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but Philips stopped manufacturing it so get ur hands on it soon

young epoch
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Question to all, looking at the Corsair K95 Cherry MX Brown. I have a Logi G213. Any ideas/recommendations? Hope this is the right place for this question.

tacit wing
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do you know your preferences for switches?

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also keeb layout?

young epoch
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MX Browns, full layout, macro functionality (a absolute need)

placid junco
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@last plinth they are clean

acoustic matrix
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so in stock $80 on October 23

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good enough? or is it ever lower

tacit wing
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well i usually avoid Corsair keebs bc of the non-standard botttom row and their aesthetics are not for me

young epoch
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Respected

daring zenith
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and keycaps can be weird for some

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they are pretty good for the macros tho

tacit wing
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but if you have a preference for MX Browns, consider linear switches as well because alot of folks say Cherry Browns feel like linears than tactiles

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i think the Corsair is great for Macros tho

young epoch
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I'm going to be honest, people have told me the Romer G when made better are Cherry Browns.

daring zenith
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switches are solely personal-preference at the end of the day

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some people still love cherry browns, some people still love cherry blues, etc etc.

young epoch
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I've never experienced anything but Romer-G

neon quartzBOT
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dino ๐Ÿ’ค#8226 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tacit wing
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what

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if thats the case i dont think you'd be too picky with switches if youre going Cherry

young epoch
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Ok. I just prefer low to no noise. That's why I think Browns

tacit wing
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browns and reds

young epoch
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If I find reds, do you think they would be a similar feel?

tacit wing
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yes

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alot of enthusiasts find Browns feel like linears

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theres really little to no tactility in cherry's browns

young epoch
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Ok. Do you think I should find a keyboard without macro keys and make my own to save cost and find something of good quality?

tacit wing
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building your own is astronomically more expensive than buying a pre-built lol

young epoch
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What I mean is I can make my own 12 key macro board for 20 and buy a full layout for 60?

tacit wing
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if macros are important to you, don't compromise on that

young epoch
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Ok

tacit wing
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ohhhh

young epoch
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I can find MX Reds on full easier than I can find one with macros and MX Reds

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I'm thinking Logi G610 and make my own macro board

west hornet
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err those steelseries look massively overpriced

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wait wtf

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the frequency response is 20-20000hz

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for 600usd?!??!?!?!

little crater
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rip

tight pulsar
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you can probably make a 12 key macropad for like 20ish but you would need to know how to solder and use qmk

west hornet
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that is actually worse than my earbuds

acoustic matrix
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so, e10k + shp9500 @163 usd final price. I'm sold on the headphones but is there anything I should know about the dac amp before I order?

tight pulsar
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@daring zenith nobody likes mx blues :p

daring zenith
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nachos

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a guy here does

tacit wing
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qmk literally looks like rocket science to me

daring zenith
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forgot which guy

tight pulsar
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qmk is kinda bad at first and i still dont understand it well but their discord and guides are amazing

daring zenith
young epoch
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@tight pulsar I'm still learning qmk but I use SOLIDWORKS macros, learning how to config with everything so there is no issue. I can solder.

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Wrong sentence structure, my bad

placid junco
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@west hornet why u making fun of my headset?

tacit wing
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i dont think that 600 dollar price tag is msrp

west hornet
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it has a smaller frequency response than my earbuds, heck it smoler than some other gaming headsets ive used that are much cheaper

tacit wing
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i dont know why the Siberia was so popular back in the day im not boomer enough to know but it has became a rare relic and ppl resell it for absurd amounts of money

placid junco
last plinth
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ur trolling

west hornet
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uhhh

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those arent even for desktop use? lol

tacit wing
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bruh thats a helicopter headset

tight pulsar
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romac16, super16, bdn9 are solid qmk macropads and you can just google qmk macropad to find a bunch. i would just see if qmk has good support for solidworks and ask on their discord, not too sure about compatibility

placid junco
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im high

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they look comfy tho

tacit wing
west hornet
placid junco
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well damn

tacit wing
last plinth
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yes

tacit wing
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copping this and plugging it straight to my MOBO

last plinth
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lmao that costs more than my pc

placid junco
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i was thinking these

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they sold for $45,000 tho

brisk parcel
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@tacit wing just buy stacks at that point

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apparently they're the purest audio you can get

tacit wing
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oh no i dont have that kind of money i was kidding

sinful olive
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best 60% keyboard? perferably on Amazon, but if not its fine\

daring zenith
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What budget

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And "best" is likely gonna be a few thousand dollars :p

tight pulsar
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otd356mini

tight pulsar
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@amber oracle what was that autotagging software for foobar you recommended?

amber oracle
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@tight pulsar https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ <- that one, remember. work on a COPY of your music until you understand how it actually works

tight pulsar
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ill try not to ruin my music haha

amber oracle
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keep in mind, that tool has NO problem effing things up if you just click randomly

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is it NOT friendly in that regard

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@daring zenith re: when do you need an amp: when you cannot get the volume/sound you want from a pair of headphones.

re: max impedance: those numbers change from implementation to implementation.

fx, some 1220vb implementations has 550+ ohm support on the FRONT panel connectors

soft oxide
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Only headphones I fw is audio technica

formal island
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Is mechanicalkeyboards a good website to buy my ducky one 2 mini keyboard?

tight pulsar
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yeah

brisk parcel
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ATH is good but you should expand your options in the future ๐Ÿ™‚

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No offense to you but sometimes you can get very unexpected things from a new brand

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Thatโ€™s why I always tell people to give it a shot, you can always return them if you donโ€™t like them ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ˜‚

daring zenith
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@amber oracle wait wait wait, I thought sound chip was for the rear io connectors?

amber oracle
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both

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depends on implementation

daring zenith
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And also, where could I find the info for those numbers? From quick Google search I didn't find anything and couldn't find specs for the alc1220

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I'm talking about the chip on the MSI b450 pro carbon ac atm

amber oracle
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let me see if there is something i can actually link

daring zenith
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(realtek website was extremely unhelpful)

amber oracle
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aye, they do NOT want you visiting

wintry bramble
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is there a kb that is rlly hot swappable like it accepts plate switches and pcb ones

daring zenith
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Aw

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@wintry bramble that's called making your own

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Go join nachos in doing that

wintry bramble
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D:

daring zenith
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Custom board

amber oracle
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@daring zenith igorslab has a article that is semi related

wintry bramble
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but i don't wanna solder it

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guess ill just go for the gmmk

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wait so gmmk is plate only

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and i have to clip pcb switches if i wanna use them

daring zenith
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"up to 30mw into a 32ohm load"..?

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Uh I think so?

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@amber oracle I guess I've been thinking about it the wrong way, so is max impedance and the need for an amp separate? Or are they related?

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While I'm talking in general, I'll also ask the question of how would the PC37x work with the 1220? It has a 50ohm impedance listed.

Also @amber oracle , if you have any good sources/websites I can read up on for all these basic stuff, that'll be useful too

wintry bramble
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@daring zenith can i technically put any switch in the gmmk

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like as long as i clip them

daring zenith
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Not sure, you go research that.

wintry bramble
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xhat

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ook

daring zenith
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@tight pulsar by the way, what's your opinions on Gateron browns for tactile?

wintry bramble
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so im in between ducky one 2 mini

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gmmk

neon quartzBOT
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Just1ns_#0871 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wintry bramble
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my own "fricking" keyboard

tight pulsar
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@daring zenith theyre slightly better than mx browns but not really super smooth or tactile

daring zenith
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hm

tight pulsar
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theyre no ergo clears but theyre alright

wintry bramble
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@tight pulsar gmmk ducky one 2 or making my own kb

tight pulsar
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depends on how much effort you want to put in ofc i would pick custom but i also know how to lube/build/solder one

wintry bramble
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is it hard to lube/build/solder one?

tight pulsar
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not really you just need a soldering iron/solder and lubing you just need lube, a brush, a switch opener, and a lot of time and patience

daring zenith
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hm

brisk parcel
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^^^^^^^

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that

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especially the patience

tight pulsar
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yea

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none of its hard it just can get frustrating if you dont have patience

daring zenith
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Should I just get prebuilt GMMK with gateron browns and change them down the line to fancier switches?

tight pulsar
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why not just start out with nicer switches?

daring zenith
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Because I don't know about how I like them and how they feel

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like ergo clears and holy panda

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box switches too but I could get a key tester for those at some point

tight pulsar
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you could grab something like this or buy a few nicer switches off mechmarket https://kbdfans.com/products/tactile-switches-tester

KBDfansยฎ Mechanical Keyboards Store

Cherryย Brown Zealiosย 62g Zealiosย 65g Zealiosย 67g Zealiosย 78g Gateronย Brown Aliazย 60g Aliazย 70g Aliazย 80g Aliazย 100g Kailhย Hakoย violet Kailhย Hakoย True Kailhย Hakoย Clear Kailhย Proย Purple Kailhย Proย copper Kailhย Boxย Purple Kailhย Boxย Orange Kailhย Boxย Brown Cherryย Tactileย Gray Cherry...

daring zenith
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oo that's a lot of nice switches

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I like that

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sold out :(

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I really like the looks of that

wintry bramble
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no gateron blacks

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smh

daring zenith
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for testing em

daring zenith
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wacky

wintry bramble
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^more switches

daring zenith
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hm

tight pulsar
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or go to thereminGoat's house and try all 805 of his different switches kekw

daring zenith
tight pulsar
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yeah welcome to keyboards

daring zenith
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I find one key switch tester that actually has the switches I want to test

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not just yaknow browns reds blues

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gah

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and the 130 switch tester so expensive

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I want the 20$ tactile switches

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:(

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@tight pulsar thanks I hate it already

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I might try the clicky switches tester too

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because that one is actually in stock

wintry bramble
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@daring zenith get the 81 switch one

daring zenith
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no

wintry bramble
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3$ off!

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lol

tight pulsar
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but id just suggest buying a few tactile switches off mechmarket to try them ive seen people sell like one of a bunch of popular switches

wintry bramble
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how much does it cost to make a custom keyboard

daring zenith
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I wanna try the zealios and aliaz and such tho

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that 20 switch tester has a bunch of cool stuff I want to try

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:P

tight pulsar
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ya just make a post on mechmarket and see if anybody has them

wintry bramble
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@tight pulsar answer me questioon ppls

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:D

daring zenith
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wats a mechmarket

tight pulsar
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asking how much it cost to build a keyboard is like asking how much it is to build a pc it could be super cheap to like 10k

daring zenith
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oh fun reddit

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Is there a notify me/preorder on kbdfans?

tight pulsar
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ive bought and sold a decent amount of stuff there

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not really

daring zenith
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I mean I can't access it easily

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and no acc

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and I just don't really like it

tight pulsar
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smh my head

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its through paypal even if its a scam u have protection

daring zenith
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no I mean I don't like using reddit

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I know it's backed

tight pulsar
daring zenith
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:P

tight pulsar
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thats ur internet it works fine for me

daring zenith
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it's called site is blocked smh

daring zenith
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25$ for that

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bah

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20$ for that and more on kbdfans

tight pulsar
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yeah its zeal what do u expect

daring zenith
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how do zealios and tealios and aliaz feel?

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So they're tactile

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but anything special?

tight pulsar
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tealios are linear but yeah the others are tactile

daring zenith
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or just better

tight pulsar
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pretty smooth and both have a large tactile bump iirc

daring zenith
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hm

daring zenith
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you're making me want that sold out tester even more

tight pulsar
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:p

daring zenith
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what is that tho

tight pulsar
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what is what

daring zenith
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everglides?

tight pulsar
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yeah

daring zenith
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how they feel

tight pulsar
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jwk makes em

daring zenith
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how they feel tho

tight pulsar
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look them up i dont have experience with any of these :v

daring zenith
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bruh

tight pulsar
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i can only tell you specs and others reviews

daring zenith
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ya

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tell moi plz

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I don't know good reviewers

tight pulsar
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if you havent noticed by now everything is preference

daring zenith
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Yea I know

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that's why I want to know the differences

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like if one has a quicker actuation

tight pulsar
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no

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look up the force curves if u want stuff like that

daring zenith
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yea

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I want the force curves lmao

tight pulsar
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then look them up :p

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btw aliaz are silent switches https://www.keebtalk.com/t/aliaz-switches/7638

wintry bramble
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soooo gmmk= easy building

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custom= hard work but it'll be better

daring zenith
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ugh it links a reddit post I can't see

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Custom gives more options, but I don't think perf wise it'd be better..?

tight pulsar
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gmmk only takes 3 pin switches so u cant really reuse them that well if u wanna build a custom tho with straight switches

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kekw nothing about keyboards is performance wise

daring zenith
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bruh I'm a perf guy

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also 3 pin switches..?

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(what's the differences from others)

tight pulsar
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then get a $5 membrane keyboard

daring zenith
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they don't perform well

tight pulsar
daring zenith
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interesting

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plate mounted and pcb mounted

wintry bramble
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give it to me straight

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what that mean

daring zenith
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so there's a plate for things like gmmk? does the plate affect things?

wintry bramble
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in dumb no knowledge for keyboard language

tight pulsar
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5 pin is preferred literally every time because if the pcb only takes 3 pin you can just trim them down

daring zenith
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does the plate affect things?

tight pulsar
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yeah i could write a whole essay but yes plate impact things a lot

daring zenith
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(can you give me what types of changes?)

wintry bramble
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sooo

tight pulsar
wintry bramble
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gmmk good or bad

tight pulsar
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its in between

wintry bramble
tight pulsar
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its decent if you want a hotswap board but not really good vs a cheap custom

wintry bramble
tight pulsar
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@daring zenith heres a quick comparison on how plate materials affect sound but its not super good bc the switches are scratch af https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMvucL8lVjU

0:00 Plateless
0:30 FR4
1:00 Carbon Fiber
1:30 Aluminium
2:00 Brass
2:30 Steel
3:00 comparison
Q: What the heck of experiment is it?
A: To have sound tests of different combinations of plates and cases, while keeping other parts such as switches, keycaps unchanged.

PCB: GT-BL...

โ–ถ Play video
daring zenith
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kk

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will listen later

wintry bramble
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i wanna say i hear a difference @tight pulsar .. but i can't

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maybe a VERY subtle one

tight pulsar
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yeah its not a really big difference and that isnt a great video to show it

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plates affect feel more than sound imo

brisk parcel
real galleon
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Yo

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audiophiles

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UNITE

daring zenith
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@real galleon problem is, can't find specs for the alc1220 lmao

real galleon
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the alc1220?

daring zenith
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all Naed got me was a igorslab.de thing comparing alc1220vs1200

real galleon
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oh i see

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Idk about those LOL

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naed probably better for thazt

daring zenith
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and talked about max 32ohm load

real galleon
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but if you need headphone reqs i got you

daring zenith
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smth like that

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tbh I'm set on pc37x

real galleon
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I want to use a wireless set up

daring zenith
#

there is very little chance I'll get convinced against getting a Sennheiser pc37x

real galleon
#

oo

brisk parcel
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yes, did someone say audiophile?

real galleon
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that isnt too bad

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is that my boi

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its been a hot minute

brisk parcel
#

it is your boy, it has indeed been a hot min

real galleon
#

The HD6XXs are doing my set up justice

brisk parcel
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I got a schiit modi 3 and a littledot mk2 coming on wedensday so pretty hope

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hype*

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and ooooh nice nice

real galleon
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Oop

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im still using the schiit stack i bought

calm cobalt
#

Modi 3 is very bleh

real galleon
#

Im considering switching to a completely wireless set up

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Its very entry level but im happy with it

#

my audio is super crisp with it

brisk parcel
#

yeah I was gonna get a magni but I've already used a solid state and I wanna go the tube route cause i'm curious

real galleon
#

I was considering that too but i already bought the magni kek

brisk parcel
#

and galactic it may not be anything special but what it does do, it does exceptionally well

real galleon
#

i also like how it matches

brisk parcel
#

yeah lmao, if you ever get the chance then I would for sure try a tube amp

real galleon
#

thats probably the only reason why i bought the stack lol

brisk parcel
#

i'm pretty excited tbh and that's fair

calm cobalt
#

Schiit makes junk

brisk parcel
#

I got my modi in black to match the amp and the cans better

real galleon
#

damn my man really schiiting on schiit

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LOL

brisk parcel
#

idk from my experience they make pretty decent stuff so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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comes down to preference I guess

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for $100 I think the modi's a steal, the AK4490 is a pretty beastly dac

calm cobalt
#

Modi 3 in particular pushes the midrange back. It's very odd.

brisk parcel
#

really? I've got 2 friends with modis and I've never heard a pushed-back midrange on either of them

#

mind linking me an article or soemthing?

calm cobalt
#

You've never heard much else I imagine

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So you wouldn't be able to tell

brisk parcel
#

I mean i've heard a few things yeah, not like a crazy amount

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I try what I can get my hands on lmao

#

I've heard a few other DACs, and I personally have a scarlett and a G6 that also have DACs in them

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I use the scarlett when I play my guitar, I have an acoustic electric, great for recording. and well the G6 is kinda there cause I had it when I had my cloud 2s

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I am a bit curious on that midrange bit tho so I will for sure have a look and a closer listen when I get mine

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and rudy, glad to hear you enjoy the 6XXs pepeluv

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I modded my 58Xs a bit, removed the foam and the paper over the driver to open them up a nice bit

real galleon
#

yee

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I jsut bought an etymotic er3sr too

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Just as a an easier listening

brisk parcel
#

hmmm I heard about them, never used them though

real galleon
#

ill let you know when i get them

brisk parcel
#

only real audiophile balanced armature IEMs I have are the 1more quads but they still have a full size driver in them with the 3 armatures

last plinth
#

mr. ninja

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should i get magni or fulla

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@brisk parcel

brisk parcel
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oh so

#

the fulla is a DAC/AMP combo

last plinth
#

yes

brisk parcel
#

I would obv recommend the modi/magni stack since the fulla isn't too far off that price

last plinth
#

its the same price

brisk parcel
#

oh really? didn't know the fulla was the same price

last plinth
#

Also the mobo im getting has a good dac im pretty sure

brisk parcel
#

then for sure I would go for the modi/magni stack. you get more physical product for your money plus lots of people(myself included) recommend think the stack sounds better than the fulla

#

maybe so, but

#

external DACs are just usually better

#

what mobo are you getting?

last plinth
#

Maximus hero

brisk parcel
#

ok so really quick just pulling up the specs, you'll enjoy the stack better than the fulla, either way when you buy the external stuff you no longer use the DAC on the mobo

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plus, mobo dacs just aren't as good, they're there as a simple feature, not really something to rave about

elder remnant
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isnโ€™t the maximus $400?

brisk parcel
#

it's up there

#

but yeah you should pick up the modi/magni stack. it's more money but

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much more worth it

last plinth
#

It is 400$

brisk parcel
#

you still need headphones right?

last plinth
#

I have headphones

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Dt 990

brisk parcel
#

buy them yet?

last plinth
#

No

brisk parcel
#

ok, so I'll give you a few other options if you'd like just so you can look around a bit

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the beros do love their power, and the fulla might be able to drive them, but maybe not as well as a magni

#

well, definitely actually lmao

#

anyway, let me get you a list of a few cans in that price range

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you hear me mention these all the time, they're my babies and they punch well above the price(not to schiit[haha get it, schiit] on your 990s @amber oracle I know you love them <3), plus with a little modding by removing the foam, they open up even more.
https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-hd-58x-jubilee-headphones
and well, these are planars, they deliver sound in a completely different way, also worth a look into:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones

last plinth
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I dont plan on modding

brisk parcel
#

Drop does great collabs with headphone makers, plus the prices are spot on

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I know you don't plan on it but like, it takes the whole of 2 mins to remove the foam lmao

#

no harm done to the cans at all

cunning hearth
#

Best headphones for gaming under $100? I was considering the hyperx cloud alpha but idk if there r better options

last plinth
#

I guess

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Headset

brisk parcel
#

I will honestly make a video right now lmao and put it in this chat

last plinth
#

Or headphones

brisk parcel
#

^

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yeah @cunning hearth a headset has a mic attached, headphones are just the drivers without the mic

last plinth
#

Headphones are shp9500

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Headset stick with cloud alpha

cunning hearth
#

Ah ok

#

Thx

brisk parcel
#

I also recommend the cooler master MH751-752s

cunning hearth
#

Wow that name tho

brisk parcel
#

personally I think they're much better for sound than the clouds at the price

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they're just a copy of the takstar pro 82s which are also super good

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so do you want a headset or headphones?

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cause for headphones there's quite a few recommendations aside from the 9500s

cunning hearth
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Headset lol sry

last plinth
#

@brisk parcel is there a better mic

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i was gonna get elgato

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Wave 1

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but figured it was too expensive

brisk parcel
#

what's your mic budget?

last plinth
#

130

brisk parcel
#

oh yeah that's right, I remember

#

tbh, I have a revised option for you

#

pick up a fifine T669 boom arm combo for $75, better than a blue snowball in my experience, and then throw that extra money back into the headphone hat

#

and pick up the 6XXs instead

#

but yeah the wave 1 is nothing special

#

no different than any other ~$50 mic, unless you're streaming you don't really need anything better

#

tbh, Fifine T669, modi 3, magni 3, 6XXs, you'll be golden

last plinth
#

Ok

#
FIFINE MICROPHONE

What's Included A FIFINE MICROPHONE T669 An arm stand A shock mountย  A pivot mount A tripod stand A pop filterย  A foam cover Features An update of the prototype FIFINE K669B and so much more The same fool-proof installation onย Mac, Windows andย PS4ย (incompatible with Xbox).ย The...

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This one right

brisk parcel
#

yuperoo

last plinth
#

Ive had bad experiences with condenser mics before

west hornet
#

condensor picks up more bg noise

last plinth
#

Like my friend said there was ear explosions

brisk parcel
#

ahhhhhh, well in that can

west hornet
#

plosives?

brisk parcel
#

samson q2u is a good dynamic mic

#

case*

west hornet
#

^

last plinth
#

do u know why the ears exploded

brisk parcel
#

idk what you mean by that still lmao

last plinth
#

like out of nowhere

brisk parcel
#

still don't know what you mean

last plinth
#

there would be this super loud sound

brisk parcel
#

what mic was it? sounds like a bad connection

#

not necessarily the mics' fault

west hornet
#

well that could be a fault of the mic or connection, but if you mean like when you say a p or b then it pops almost then a pop filter should fix something like that

#

condensers are good for some people, for others dynamic

brisk parcel
#

if you're in a loud environment then def not a condenser

#

but for dynamics, yeah the samson q2u fits right in that price range

last plinth
#

I dont remember

#

It was cheap mic from amazon tho

brisk parcel
#

well that's probably one issue lmao

last plinth
#

Like 20$

west hornet
#

maybe one of those cheap neewer mics

brisk parcel
#

^

last plinth
#

Not on amazon anymore

west hornet
#

i daily a condenser mic and i love it, but i do not represent everyone

brisk parcel
#

you should try and give everything a second chance

#

a $20 condenser mic doesn't represent all of them lmao

#

if that makes sense

last plinth
#

Ok

brisk parcel
#

Fifine T669 or the samson q2u will be your best bet

last plinth
#

Ok

#

I think sound from my headphones leaked out into mic

#

is that possibility

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@brisk parcel

brisk parcel
#

it is but not likely

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i'm making my lunch sorry

last plinth
#

its ok

west hornet
#

i don't have sound leak from my headphones into mic on open back

last plinth
#

yea im just gonna assume it was cuz it was cheap and random brand

amber oracle
#

@daring zenith the problem with the specs you would like... Realtek does NOT like parting with those

daring zenith
#

yea I'm sad

amber oracle
#

well, its not as if you are so important that giving away company secrets is suddenly okay :P

gritty wedge
#

I have a question about the Logitech Pro X

last plinth
#

what

amber oracle
#

@gritty wedge please ask away

#

and just ignore the trolling from @last plinth

last plinth
#

wym

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im tryna help

gritty wedge
#

does the top of it have a USB slot?

amber oracle
#

elaborate @gritty wedge ?

last plinth
#

what do u mean by top

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it has a dongle

gritty wedge
#

on the keyboard is there a USB slot. I use a Fingerprint scanner that plus into my keyboard

amber oracle
#

@gritty wedge there is not a usb hub in the keyboard

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also, just so you are aware "Pro X" is a moniker/name that applies to both a keyboard and a headset

gritty wedge
#

the keyboard

amber oracle
#

yes, i know that "now"

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:)

#

and as i said

#

there is NOT a usb hub in the keyboard

gritty wedge
#

alright thx

amber oracle
#

you are very welcome :)

daring zenith
#

Anyways @amber oracle , any good article I can reference to for "how the hell does it all work" when it comes to amp/dac/headphones?

amber oracle
#

when i stop burping from Ribs , i will have a look around

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i cannot remember one at the top of my head

daring zenith
#

alright

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because I'm either going to have to keep asking you questions or just get you to find an article that'll explain everything lel

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I have a feeling it'll only go around in circles

amber oracle
#

:)

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as ive said before, i dont mind your questions

#

they at least are intelligent

daring zenith
#

I mean, it'd be less productive than just reading how it is supposed to be

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because I have a feeling what I believe is wrong

amber oracle
#

:)

daring zenith
#

:)

amber oracle
#

it is NOT recommended to eat close to 3kg of ribs

daring zenith
#

And you still did it, for good reason >:)

amber oracle
#

yes, and i regret it deeply right about now

daring zenith
#

mmm tasty

amber oracle
#

if sweating and feeling crosseyed from eating too much meat is "tasty"? then yes

daring zenith
#

hey, at least you had the good experience of eating it

amber oracle
#

trust me, i am trying to convince my stomach about that

#

it is NOT listening right now

daring zenith
#

what does one even do in that situation?

#

just sit it out?

amber oracle
#

aye

#

ive been here before

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i walked from downtown after dinner (which helps a LOT)

#

now the body just has to catch up

daring zenith
#

hm

#

@tacit wing by the way, what's going to be the differences between different glides for mouses?

amber oracle
#

friction/feel

daring zenith
#

I kinda assumed better = less friction

#

would that be the case?

#

and would I have any incentive to replace the glides on a gpw? :P

amber oracle
#

generally yes

#

i have no idea about the GPW

daring zenith
#

and how are glides installed? glue?

amber oracle
#

aye, adhesive on the back of them

daring zenith
#

interesting

#

are they reusable?

amber oracle
#

they are a consumable. so generally no

daring zenith
#

ah so if I took the stock glides off to clean the insides, I wouldn't be able to reinstall them?

amber oracle
#

aye

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have a look there

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that is the glides for my current daily driver

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very very custom shapes

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and "thin"

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aka prone to being distorted in shape when you pull them off

daring zenith
#

huh

amber oracle
#

shrugs

#

there are other companies that make glides

#

i just like sticking with original parts if possible :)

daring zenith
#

yea fair nuff

#

hm apparently gpw stock glides are pretty good

last plinth
#

U think the superlight gpw is gonna be same price

tacit wing
#

@tacit wing by the way, what's going to be the differences between different glides for mouses?
@daring zenith idk the technicalities of it but STOCK mouse skates are generally made of Teflon and aftermarket skates are PTFE Virgins

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PTFE Virgins offer the smoothest glide = more consistent

#

the top brands being corepadz, tiger arcs and hyperglides

#

the new GPW Superlight will come with PTFE skates as standard rather than Teflon, and hopefully all their new mice from now on

last plinth
#

how much u think its gonna cost

full kelp
#

150$ ish i think

last plinth
#

wtf

tacit wing
#

considering its smaller in size than the OG GPW it will have no competitors

last plinth
#

smaller?

full kelp
#

yea GPW is expensive af

last plinth
#

Gpw is 130$

full kelp
#

so if its gonna be the "new" flagship

tacit wing
#

superlight is smaller yes

last plinth
#

not that much

full kelp
#

its gonna be more expensive

tacit wing
#

not unless Razer releases a Viper Mini Ultimate, i can see it going down in price

last plinth
#

shouldnt it cost less if its smaller

#

also will that mean if u have big hands its nono

full kelp
#

its lighter

tacit wing
#

generally yes smaller = more affordable

full kelp
#

which will make it more expensive

tacit wing
#

but it is the first time we ever seen a mouse this size in the wireless space

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so it could be costy

full kelp
last plinth
#

and its gonna be available in white or bladk color maybe

full kelp
#

honestly G305 with a triple A battery is great imo

tacit wing
#

305/203 shape is so OP for claw

last plinth
#

u have to replace batteries?

#

Or only for g305

full kelp
#

for G305 yea

#

i use rechargable ones

#

with a tin foil ball lmaooo

tacit wing
#

how much weight u saved with triple A?

daring zenith
#

fun

soft oxide
#

ATH is good but you should expand your options in the future ๐Ÿ™‚
@brisk parcel I see the Sennheiser in your name...I like them too...Long as you aren't saying beat by dre then you are OK in my book lol

tacit wing
daring zenith
#

hm

#

@tacit wing was just browsing about

#

are those good?

tacit wing
#

Corepadz and Tigers are usually top 2 pick

#

Hyperglides are too overpriced for what they are

daring zenith
#

alright

tacit wing
#

but each brand will vary more in thickness rather than material

#

but that shouldnt be a problem since GPW LOD isnt too finicky

#

also these skates have a break-in period, they will not be smooth out of the box

#

once they turn a shiny gloss they will be BUTTER

amber oracle
#

just dont mix-and-match

last plinth
#

whats lod

amber oracle
#

(because thickness diff)

#

re: LOD : normally its Level Of Detail

daring zenith
#

yea

tacit wing
#

lift-off distance in sensors

daring zenith
#

think I'll get some later

thorny aspen
#

Need headset no mic send me please

calm cobalt
tacit wing
#

headset no mic... so headphones bigbrain

thorny aspen
#

Like a link please

calm cobalt
tacit wing
#

nice pickups

calm cobalt
#

;)

tacit wing
#

789?

calm cobalt
#

Yes

tacit wing
#

me wanty

calm cobalt
#

Is nice

tacit wing
#

whats that beside it?

calm cobalt
#

Chord Qutest dac

last plinth
#

dino should i spend extra money for lightbulb on amp

#

@tacit wing

tacit wing
#

lightbulb on amp

#

i suggest not, for your very first amp

tight pulsar
#

yeah people also say the vali vs magni are basically the same

last plinth
#

ok

tacit wing
#

that 789 is sooooo nice AStriggered

last plinth
#

LOL

daring zenith
#

@tacit wing should I get the Tigers or the Corepad glides?

tacit wing
#

they both perform about the same doesnt matter

#

both have rounded edges

#

literally you can close your eyes and pick one and you'd be just as happy if it went the other way

muted vector
#

What are the best keyboard brands?

tight pulsar
#

otd and tgr

formal island
#

Itโ€™s cheaper then other online stuff for 99 dollars

tacit wing
#

lol of course it is

#

theyre based in Tenesee i believe theyre Ducky US retailer @formal island

gritty wedge
#

@amber oracle if your still here how good is the Pro X

last plinth
#

not good

#

how much u paying

amber oracle
#

@gritty wedge which one are you asking about this time?

gritty wedge
#

keyboarfd

amber oracle
#

i have never used it

#

so, read actual reviews of it

#

and make up your own mind about it :)

chrome latch
#

can someone help me with this mouse issue im having

#

this is my second mouse ive purchased

#

that has the same issue

#

"double clicks"

tacit wing
#

oh no

#

let me guess

#

do u have a logitech? @chrome latch

#

i bet my left nut its a GPW

chrome latch
#

how did you know?

#

-__-

tacit wing
#

i knew it

chrome latch
#

both mouses i had issues with

#

were longitech

tacit wing
#

well yeah man the omron switches on those are notorious for double clicking

chrome latch
#

ok so

tacit wing
#

pls RMA them if you can

chrome latch
#

i saw on youtube its fixable

tacit wing
#

well yeah

chrome latch
#

but i dotn want to open it up

tacit wing
#

look up beardedbob's tutorial

chrome latch
#

im looking for a suggestion

tacit wing
#

well you dont have much of a choice

chrome latch
#

soemthing that wont break

#

any suggestions?

daring zenith
#

blow on the switch

tacit wing
#

return them

daring zenith
#

it works

#

:D

west hornet
#

uh doesnt that fix void warranty

chrome latch
#

i mean i dont even know if i have the box

tacit wing
#

unless you dont want to do mouse surgery and solder some Kailh switches return them

daring zenith
#

just blow on the switches >:D

chrome latch
#

i used a dust can

#

didnt help

noble patio
#

In my experience Logitech has pretty good customer service, so I'd recommend contacting them to see what they can do

chrome latch
#

i dotn have the box

#

or the reciept

noble patio
#

The worst Logitech can do is say no, so it doesn't hurt to contact them

chrome latch
#

im jsut upset that i payed twice and had the same issues

#

i dont mind the loss

#

i mind the hassle

#

you know what i mean?

tacit wing
#

blame Omron

brisk parcel
#

hmmm

#

can anyone confirm that fedex is a little wack this morning

#

hm

#

it was

#

nvm

#

looked a bit wack lmao

#

ooh my DAC is coming TODAY

#

amp still tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

last shadow
#

ok should i buy the philips shp 9600 or x2hr

summer atlas
#

Keyboard recommendations

#

Go

tight pulsar
#

tgr jane v2 and otd 356 mini

proper sphinx
#

@summer atlas depends what kind do you want

summer atlas
#

Tkl

#

Decently priced

#

@proper sphinx

#

No blues

proper sphinx
#

Decently priced so under 80?

summer atlas
#

Sure

summer atlas
#

First one only comes in red

#

Wtf do aquas sound like

proper sphinx
#

Huh I thought I selected mx reds?

daring zenith
#

Both are mx reds

proper sphinx
#

Hyperx has reds which are basically mx reds with a different name

summer atlas
#

the rgb color

#

in the first one

#

was red only

daring zenith
#

Man's gone

little crater
#

poof

west hornet
#

Pop

golden bear
#

I might get a free black widow keyboard

brisk parcel
#

oh dear lord

#

my ears

#

are in love

tacit wing
#

are in love
@brisk parcel modi came in?

#

what dac were u using before

last plinth
#

Should i get dac and amp

brisk parcel
#

oh the amp came in as well

last plinth
#

Making me reconsider everything

#

lol

brisk parcel
#

@tacit wing was using the sound blasterX G6

#

yes I am @last plinth

#

trying to move you away from the norm lmao

tacit wing
#

oh the amp came in as well
@brisk parcel little dot?

brisk parcel
#

mhm

#

no mind the schiity camera quality

last plinth
#

is this thing on mobo good

tacit wing
#

can u post a pic beside your modi so i can get a scale on how big it is

brisk parcel
#

yeah dino 1 sec

tacit wing
#

if u dont mind

brisk parcel
#

lemme help ctrl out

#

@last plinth as I said before, it's your standard gaming grade BS

#

once you get a real audio setup, none of that matters, it's not worth it, it's a marketing gag

#

trust me, go with a modi 3, magni 3, and the 6XX

last plinth
#

Is there a dac and amp i could get for 100

brisk parcel
#

you'll be happy

last plinth
#

or just amp is fine

tacit wing
#

even the sennheisers gaming dac+amp is bs lol

#

atleast the surround sound feature on it

#

Is there a dac and amp i could get for 100
@last plinth fulla

brisk parcel
#

I wouldn't use just the amp, the GPU will create lots of EMI noise

#

trust me, go with the schtack

tacit wing
#

weve had this conversation like 3 times @last plinth

last plinth
#

yes

brisk parcel
#

trust us please ๐Ÿฅบ

#

the schiit's in my name ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

I would not recommend it to you if I didn't believe in it 110%

#

don't think about the norm here

last plinth
#

yea ik

brisk parcel
#

the goal is to get you out of that and "see the light"

last plinth
#

I do

#

My question was

#

is the dac on the mobo good

tacit wing
#

Fulla 3 is great to get your foot in the door with this dac+amp thing

#

or Stack if budget allows

brisk parcel
#

trust me when I say the combo is an absolute dream, and about the DAC itself

last plinth
#

whats a schtack

brisk parcel
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I did tell you that the chip is basically average

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the dac chip isn't going to be as good as the one in the modi, it's average

tacit wing
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also Schiit Stack's direct competitor is the Atom Stack

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so thats an option as well

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but Im a schiit fanboy

brisk parcel
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a schtack is a term we use for schiit stuff

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the schiit "stack" is a modi and magni 3 together

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the dac is fine yeah, but it's nothing to scream about on a $400 mobo that's already a bit overpriced IMO

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plus like I said, your GPU will create hella EMI, you will hear static

last plinth
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Yep

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static from the audio from mobo

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right

tacit wing
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on-board audio will always have interference no matter what

last plinth
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ok

brisk parcel
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it's possible, likely even, but an external solution dedicated to the feature will almost always be better

last plinth
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so do I need a dac as of rn

brisk parcel
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well, if you're getting a magni you shold get a modi as well

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your budget allows it, so I would jump on it

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if you're spending that kinda money, cutting corners on audio is an overlooked downside

last plinth
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I could save money on mobo

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and get dac

brisk parcel
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as of now, stick with the original revisions we did, and for sure please do that

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I can help you pick a mobo if you want

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let me get a midterm done rq, I'll be back in 30-40

last plinth
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I decided to get magni

tacit wing
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i say only invest on your MOBO if youre doing some serious overclocking

last plinth
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what mobo should i get

tacit wing
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otherwise its not worth the investment

brisk parcel
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and even that you need a beefy cooler to boot

last plinth
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Z490 and 300$ budget

brisk parcel
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I will help you as soon as I'm done with my midterm for my programming class

last plinth
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ok

tacit wing
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that little dot sexy as hell

brisk parcel
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it really do be

tacit wing
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im envious

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enjoy it

brisk parcel
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I do get a bit of EMI and I know it's coming from the GPU, so I'm gonna get a shielded cable probably

last plinth
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Actually

brisk parcel
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it's not really noticeable until I crank the amp past 1-2 o'clock ish

last plinth
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imma just get same mobo

tacit wing
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i want one but i will have a problem with desk space

last plinth
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Buy dac later

brisk parcel
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cntrl you sure

last plinth
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uhhh

brisk parcel
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there's no going back from this, I seriously think you can save on the board easy

last plinth
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I know i can

brisk parcel
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even $300 is kinda overkill

last plinth
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but it has cool features

brisk parcel
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such as?

last plinth
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actually i might overlook it

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5gbps ethernet

tacit wing
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gaming on WIFI PES_Yikes

brisk parcel
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but, home internet isn't even that fast yet...

tacit wing
last plinth
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Wifi 6 and bluetooth

placid junco
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are these any good?

brisk parcel
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@placid junco for the price? try the cooler master MH751-752s

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you'll be pleasantly surprised ๐Ÿ˜„

placid junco
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those are wired

tacit wing
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that Cooler Master and the Cloud Alphas are just Takstar clones

brisk parcel
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alright @last plinth hold off on your decisions please, let me finish this and then we can talk

last plinth
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Ok

placid junco
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i like the fact the logitech is wireless and also has the usb connection

tacit wing
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which is pretty good

brisk parcel
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@placid junco I will help you as soon as I'm done with my midterms as well

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@amber oracle jump in if you'd like ๐Ÿ™‚

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time to jump this lad down the audiophile rabbit hole

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will be back in 30 guys, @last plinth sit tight I'll be back

tacit wing
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i like the fact the logitech is wireless and also has the usb connection
@placid junco Cloud Flight S, Arctis 9, are wireless cans i can vouch for

last plinth
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I think i just get z490e

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Asus rog strix

tacit wing
last plinth
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K

brisk parcel
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you're very impatient Sadge