#peripherals-and-displays
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wdym by it won't make me happy? I mean I've listened and I think it's worth it
How much is a good gaming mouse
wym you save? our capitalist commodity based economy dictates that I spend as much as possible. And yet, it is in my personal benefit to save as much as possible
could this be... a contradiction

i guess hate on glorious week is over https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ikcbp3/the_future_of_the_glorious_holy_panda/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
2,965 votes and 404 comments so far on Reddit
honestly companies like drop need to be more like glorious
because its all about transparency
if you read the post he addresses everything that happens
and he doesnt try to cover anything up like drop
props to glorious
the challenge with that is that people see a yellow "sale" sticker and they wet their pants while throwing money at the screen
without actually engaging their brains and thinking just a bit first
true but them withdrawing the trademark is great
and it shows that they arent complete a-holes
i am not saying the above in support of Drop.
which is good for a large company that is doing great in the mouse world
but, they do have their bright spots
and is progressing in the keeb world
yes such as the non diffused leds on the drop alt and ctrl lol
ok bad joke
however, unless something changes in the mindset of the people that use those sites ... i think i know where it all leads
yep
heck i greatly enjoyed massdrops existence when i got my first ergodox
drop used to be a lot better but i think they switched ownership and things kinda went downhill a little
i dont really get the point about the trademark tho, holy pandas have been around nearly 2.5 years and nobody has tried to do anything with the name, maybe a new vendor would try to steal it but that seems highly unlikely
to the rockville mic mentioned earlier https://i.imgur.com/Eu8LjSN.png
I have a rockville subwoofer in my car. I'm pretty happy with it.
Do u guys think the 360hz will be in stock In January, I’m building my new setup in January
Can't predict the future, wait and see.
@calm cobalt watch Linus Tech Tip's video on it. You can barely tell the difference between 240 hz and 360hz so its much smarter to invest in a 240 hz panel
smarter or cheaper :v
both
and also, how many of your games are actually gonna consitently hit over 360 fps? (other than games like CSGO or Valorant)
fn
its not worth it @calm cobalt you wont see a difference between 240 hz and 360 hz
not worth it at all
Tin t2 are supposed to get here on friday
nice
be sure to gib review
But I’m planning to play 360fps
but its not worth it
wait for higher response time monitors I guess
impatience
yooooo soon i can get my keyboard hype
Pog
Getting my first ever mechanical keyboard this month (I’m 34) and I can’t decide between cherry reds And browns. I play mostly FPS.
I recommend reds but it comes down to preference
hey no it wasnt off discord
Looks a lot like discord xD
whatever its still gonna be a cool keyboard
Lol
is it custom build?
niceeeeee
hi folks
I bought a pci-e bluetooth / wifi card and I'm generally pretty happy with it aside from it eating up one of the usb 9-pin headers on the motherboard
do there exist any pcie bt cards that self-host the usb bus the bluetooth draws from?
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but there are just usb bluetooth adapters
@celest canyon
My wifi card is pci-e and thats it... No wires or power connectors, just plug into pci-e slot and thats it. No USB headers taken up.
Do you have a picture?
is your card also bluethooth ?
@daring zenith How do you feel about mechanical keyboards?
Or perhaps that's more of a @tight pulsar question
I know the basics, Nachos knows the specifics :D
I'm feeling a little ghetto running with the wired Alienware kbd that came with the PC
From what I've read, getting into mechanicals can go down quite the rabbit hole
Custom boards is just deeeeep
But just "gaming" keyboards aren't too hard
@rich swift well, first, what's the amount you're willing to spend on a good keyboard?
I suppose I'd want to keep it under $150
Fair enough, that gets you into basically all of the good stuff, and yes, try a keyswitch tester, main switches you'll want to test are the Cherry MX blue/red/brown and Gateron Blue/red/brown
That'll tell you what type of switches you prefer
I'm not playing FPS, so high-end performance isn't a necessity.
(since you said you're getting into the mech. Keyboard market I assume you don't know how each thing feels)
You'd be correct there
It's not for performance, it's for the feeling and personal preference :D
linears are smooth, they just go up and down
clickys have a noticeable bump and a click when it actuates
Basic idea is Blues are loud clickies, Browns are nice quieter clickies, Reds don't click and don't make noise on the way down.
tactiles are clickys that are quieter sound but with the bump
Browns and such still have a sound, just quieter than blues :p
yep mb
I guess for now I'll look up some youtube videos on switch comparisons. If I need to feel it for myself, I'll need to find my way into a store - or just add a switch tester to my monitor order, I suppose
i am a weird person and i like membrane keyboards (not the memchanical ones) ones like a logitec office keyboard, but i dont have the desk space for that and a mouse can i get some help findng an 87 key membrane keyboard
Cherry browns sound great, and Gateron browns not so much. But a good amount of people prefer the feel of Gateron browns.
Sweet jebus, what have I gotten myself into?
Heh, just feel them for yourself
Agreed
Ignore the build quality on testers and bottom out sound and stuff, just feel the switch as you press them down and find your preference.
"Sweet jebus, what have I gotten myself into?" <- the start of a endless spiral that is going to cost you a LOT of money over the coming decades
yo uhh i might want a new keyboard is there a clicky blue feel type key but as quiet as possible?
I think there's another switch similar to browns thats slightly quieter
@amber oracle we should get that pinned xD
Anyone have suggestions for a budget monitor for productivity?
dell refurb or outlet models
outlet models?
outlet = store front that focuses on leftover stock
@full kelp best bet would be orings or just slap a bunch of foam to dampen it, zealpc said they were gonna make a silent clicky switch eventually but thats probably gonna be $$$
@rich swift lol u havent even seen the rabbit hole of weird things yet
orings?
yeah
o that looks coo.l
yea i want to use my keyboard but ppl in zoom have been complaining a bit so
i really dislike orings but theyre pretty much the only option
ah
ok what abt silent keys?
im using outemu browns rn, like the feel, but feels a bit too loud
gateron makes silent browns
Purple switches go hard
I been looking for a new headset can someone help me pick one
Idk if I should go for a razer kraken ultimate/tournament edition or the astro a40's
or if there is anything better
@tight pulsar the silent browns are soooo good
@heady spruce dont settle for those gamer headphones you should get the DT series instead because they sound way better and just get another mic ...preferibly the blue series if ur on a budget
dt 990 is pretty good
and the audio technica at2020
nice as the 990's are, they are not for everyone. With them being open
770 might be more relevant for a shared enviroment
I'm looking for headphones myself
I had a paid of Sennheiser 363d's but they broke at the Boom mic (where you move it up and down to mute)
@heady spruce I got the Lucio headsdet (Overwatch Razer) a few days ago, it's on sale now though. For me the audio is great for GAMING but not for talking/hearing people if that makes sense?
@brisk parcel around?
I'm looking for WIRED myself.
@amber oracle yes I am
sorry I have work now lmao
so what do you need? if you still need it lmao
OH
WAIT
@old root
you need help picking headphones?
I had 363d that JUST broke recently. I picked up some Razer nari Lucio headphones that aren't comfy to me.
The boom mic broke
On my senns
so what's your budget? and yeah ok gotcha
150-300 max prob. Preferred to be interchangeable with PC and console as well as over ear and wired
and I assume you want a headset and not just headphones
okay let me have a look 1 sec
okay so some pretty good options for that, the PC37Xs are really good for the price, they're like the 363D refresh(the 373D) but their drivers are more audiophile-like, akin to the 58X drivers, so you know imaging will be lit
they're on amazon but they're a massdrop collab
How about these
Eh idk if that has an adjustable boom mic. I know the senns do.
Massdrop any less quality?
and another unlikely option, the cooler master MH751-2s. they're the best for their price, and considered to be one of the best "gaming" headsets. they're reskins of the takstar pro 82s but they're wider because the back of the earcups leave more room for the driver
and no not at all
I have 58Xs that I use for gaming myself and they're amazing for that and music
tbh I would tell you to go pick up the 58Xs and buy a proper mic for PC but you need interchangeability
the 37Xs are semi-open back, and the CM MH751-2s are closed back
and tbh I don't recommend any "gaming" headphones like that
not even the steelseries apex pro because yeah they're audiophile but you can get much better for less money
Oh those logitech I posted DO. Have a boom mic that moves to mute
And a light to tell you it's off. It would go with my logitech rgb keyboard too
my biggest issue with those is, like I said, they're "gaming" and not really meant for the audio itself. the price isn't really the best either
but I can't stop you from your own opinion
my job is to give you my recommendations and opinions
and you get to make your decision based on that
so yes I will talk against them but I don't want you to feel like I'm dissing on your choice
tbh I would give the 37Xs a try, and if you don't like them you can return them, but it's up to you
@brisk parcel Considering getting a pair of Sennheiser or Grado headphones for my flac collection. I'm not super familiar with Sennheiser's lineup, do you have any recommendations for me to look over? Looking for maybe open backed wired ones, mid-range (ie under $500)
"sorry I have work now lmao" <- excuses, all i see is excuses :P
only a good bit of options 
Naed, get to your work now :P
you have the 58Xs, 6XXs(from massdrop), and you have the HD 600, 650(the 6XXs are just a reskin of these, exact same hardware), and 660s which are all very solid, but depending on your listening will depend on which one you like the most
i am done for the day
I see
that's just for sennheisers
so, what music do you listen to the most? what's your preferred sound signature?
do you perfer more "neutral" or "warm" sound?
I do a lot. Anything but country, so EDM, Pop, Classic Rock, Death Metal, Ledd Zeppelin 🙂
I'd prefer more neutral sound for this set, as I have my WH1000XM4s for more bassy stuff
perfect, I'm gonna say to go have a look at the HD 660S then
they inherit the good from the 600 and 650s, but are a little more neutral, but can be warm on some really smooth tracks if they need to be
sure thing!
and yes NAED it's an excuse
9-5 tues-fri because I need 3 days for school work
Sorry for that not saying thanks myself too
nah man it's alright lmao
yeah but you don't need to trust me
price doesn't always mean good
you'll be very surprised with the 37Xs
I.e these Lucio ones
and super happy too
I know I'm some random guy on the internet but, I promise you won't regret the 37Xs or even the MH751-2s
I was thinking audio technica beforehand. Sennheiser or AT.
they're both good but I've always been more of a fan of sennheiser's sound
Are there any cheap 60-80% white and RGB kahil box white keyboards
Like, as cheap as you can get
The longest 3 days ever for these earbuds
lol i did ask it earlier
but decided to delete and ask once your guys' headphone convo died down
so i wouldnt interrupt anything
i kinda wanna ping nachos for an answer but that would be annoying to him wouldnt it
yes
pretty sure anne pro 2 has them or get a cheap hotswap board and put them in
or if u have a soldering iron u could get a $15 plastic case and just build a cheap custom
Hey
Anybody know of good keyboards?
I dont know much about thwm
Just that I would like anything better than membrane. Mainly looking for mechanical
what price/size
@tight pulsar sorry for the late reply
Never thought of a custom keyboard? can you elaborate on that?
@devout fiber what questions u have?
well, i know theres cheap soldering irons i could get
I know like, nothing about keyboards other than some of the switches there are, so, can you like give a general explanation of everything
okay
so the switches get soldered (or if its a hotswap board u just plop them in the sockets) into the pcb, which you screw into the case usually at the bottom, and then put keycaps on
sounds simple enough
how would i get the glorious rgbs?
they come with the pcb id assume
yes
yeah, RGB/LED backlighting depends on the board that you end up choosing
heres a better guide if u want to go more in depth or are just confused https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hlf0ql/a_complete_beginner_guide_to_the_world_of/
in addition, only some switches are compatible/have slots for LEDs to shine through, so when you choose a switch, make sure it has that
how much do you think it'd cost for that? Just a super cheap custom one, hotswap preferred
you could always try Drop, they have the CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and other keyboards
they're all for sure hotswap
ya
but there's definitely cheaper hotswap keebs out there as well
i mean i think building a custom one would be awesome
u could probably build a nice cheap one for like 100-120 with hotswap, or like $20 less with a soldered pcb
including keycaps
really? only that much? i have a feeling it'd hover around the 200-300 mark
depending on what board you end up wanting
an aluminum case would be like $80 more so yeah thats closer to that mark
but kbdfans has plastic 60% cases for like $15 vs 115 for a aluminum tofu 60%
huh
i've had a Ducky Shine IV for around....4-5 years now?
it's worked really well for me but i'm about to start getting into building custom keyboards
anne pro 2 is like $90 it looks like on the egg, so i guess id just go for that over custom since its cheaper
but custom will be in my mind for the future
if you need a keyboard stat, get a prebuilt one IMO
custom keyboards are fun but the rabbit hole goes down really fast
then once you feel comfortable with dropping 400-500 on a keyboard and shit, you can build your own
are there any other switches kinda like the box whites?
and nothing is ever in stock 
huh
Reason: Bad word usage
WHAT
lol
4-500 would probably be a nice custom, u can get a really solid gasked mounted 60% for like sub 250 built
im far beyond that point already lol
i'm including a GMK keycap set i guess
lol ya thats like an extra 150 on the cost
i'm not even gonna be fully custom
but so far i'm getting
Drop CTRL
GMK Ishtar
probably get a set of Glorious Holy Pandas
$500 is like half my entire setup o_0
theres a lot of solid sets 50-100 like the new novelkeys pbt and crp
lol my keyboard is twice the price of my gpu feelsbadman
send pics and info
ishtar looked nice but i dont really dig the red
fair, different strokes for different folks
are there any cheap 60-80%s kinda like that? again, white and rgb. I really like clicky but also an thinking about non-clicky so my friends dont get annoyed
i have future funk coming in october tho so thats pretty nice
they get annoyed my my current outemu blues a lot
maybe i'll just get another one of my keyboards but with black switch -- theyre super cheap too, like $40
aaaaaah but also 60% would be nice for my small desk
im in a private groupbuy for a otd356 mini clone, gonna use some everglide pinks and 205g0/that other stuff
that is hotswappable @devout fiber
the one i linked
but no switches or keycaps
@tight pulsar am not familiar with literally anything you said except the lube lol
hm copper is an interesting plate choice for that
not exactly cheap if you're talking like k70
those are like 120$, and nachos hates their bottom row and keycaps
ya otd boards are hella sexy
i need to get a switch tester
but theyre really expensive cause how old they are and how few there are
icic
ok ok
whats a cheap moderately decent 60%
just want to to be mech and 60%
looking for white, black, or brown switches i guess
i really want to know a range of stuuff
hex3c isnt available to buy yet?
no the groupbuy ended a while ago
dang
i was joking about that
how are the gateron switchs on the gk61? what are they like compared to outemu since ive only ever used outemu
i got one and it should be here in a week or 2 and i luv hex keyboards
gaterons are nice
what are silvers and yellows like
optical?
theyre speed switches
yellow are 10g lighter but theyre like cherry mx speed switches where they actuate faster
yeah
what about silvers
silver are slightly heavier yellows
got it
theyre in between reds and silver in terms of weight
and then blacks are heavier reds kinda correct?
yeah
if u wanna type at all id pick browns or blacks
i mostly game, but i do have to type for school
well ive gtg so rip
dang bye
ill decide on my own. watch some videos
thanks a lot for the help though, seriously
lol ur good this is what i do
ok ive decided blacks
but last question once you get back, are there any 80%s in that price range? white, rgb black switches is what im looking for
thanks!
oh yeah @ me too cause im going offline rn
hm varmilo has good tkl (80%)’s but might be too expensive, id go with something like a gmmk tkl and buy the switches u want
Aww I miss everything
Ew membrane
What’s that mean
It’s a membrane keyboard, not mechanical
Ok so basically
Mech is better
@tight pulsar what size keyboard do you have
I really want a 60%, but literally the only thing holding me back is how hard it’s gonna be to press the F5 key so I can go into 3rd person in Minecraft 
I guess I could just make it a different key, but is it hard to press the F keys quickly since you’d have to press alt+F?
So what keyboard should I get in the future Bc I wanna upgrade and also I love the clicking noise my keyboard makes
Type type type
Just get something with a blue switch
If you’re looking for cheap I use the E-Element Z77 with outemu blue switches. Super clicky, and for $30-40 it’s awesome
Rgb isn’t on rn but sound test
Idk really then, ask someone else lol. I don’t look into keyboards much
Well, there was the Duck One Two mini with kahil box white switches I was eyeballing. That’s a pretty good clicky keyboard. Small tho
@mellow leaf
i can just on amazon
also a black keyboard would look nice since ive been using that from day 1
i like this
i got the grado rs2 and the cobalt c09
mines gonna be a 60
idk if this is the right chat, but i’m building my first and build now but i dont know what wifi card is a good one trying to stay at around $50
@lone lodge you could just get a motherboard with built in wifi
i was looking into that, but i just dont know what would be a good one to get, i’m trying to keep my build around $900 but be able to upgrade in the future
right now i have a ryzen 5 3600, 1660 super, and gigabyte b550 aorus elite motherboard
nzxt h510 case, 3600mhz ram because i heard that it’s good to have faster ram with amd processors
MSI B550 Pro-vdh wifi
simple
get rid of the h510
might as well use #building-and-recc-chat
https://www.theremingoat.com/blog/glorious-panda-switch-review glorious panda review
pog
they sound better than arctic pandas imo
the thocc when lubed is amazing
too bad you have to lube them to sound good
OH FOR THE LOVE OF
Oof
T2 finally here
So far they are pretty dang nice, excellent clarity
hm

are they worth $50 in ur opinion
I'm not 100% sure
If they last for long enough I'd say sure, and god that cable sure is nice
Ye the cable I especially nice for 50usd
they're pretty comfy too
they have really good clarity
I'd like more bass but I can't complain
The blue tips not everyone likes but they also have silicone so it good
I believe the tin t2 is more mid centric but I could be wrong, could put some eq
that might be right, I noticed they have very clear vocals
The Apple earbuds I’m using rn hurt my ears, very little bass and one upper mid freq that is very boosted 
apple lol
if this cable was black I'd officially say it's the best cable ever
I mean I guess I could try painting it 

pls no sins here
?
a black cable can be a pita to actually find
Does pop out a bit rather than black which some people don’t like
hm might pick up a pair after i sell my keyboard
I think the colors aren't complimentary to the earbuds themselves
Lol nachos
I seriously might paint these suckers idk
living paycheck to paycheck is last year im living keyboard to keyboard
Chocolate to chocolate 
need audio help. how do you know what type of dac/amp you need to drive a specific pair of headphones?
like, im planning on getting the sony 1000mx4s by the end of the year, and i need to know what i need to drive them properly when i connect them to my pc using a wire
For nearly 20 years, EVGA has built the most powerful graphics cards to play your games at the highest settings, powerful motherboards to run your system at optimal settings, and reliably efficient power supplies to power your system. Now, EVGA extends its enthusiast tradition...
im thinking about getting this in the future for my next build, assuming more ever come back into b stock at some point, because i dont want a standalone dac/amp setup, i want it integrated into the pc
and i need it to look cool and such
so how do i know if this evga sound card is enough to drive the sony headset?
It would certainly be enough to drive, a phone should be able to drive those no problem.
so the evga card does up to 600 ohm, so as long as the headphones are less than that i should be fine?
aye,
however, i would strongly suggest thinking really hard about the "no dac/amp" stance
im not a super audiophile, i would just like an integrated solution for convenience
i have not personally tried the NU cards (there are more in the series iirc)
i was initially just planning on sticking with the bluetooth connection in the future, but decided i should take more advantage over a 350 dollar pair of headphones
Now dac is a different story, but I hear that the nu audio card was decent, stand-alone would be better for upgradability, but honestly I think you would be fine without
Wireless headphones have a built in amp/dac as well
yeah, but i would imagine they arent as goos as a dedicated dac/amp
ah yes, its the one with the ADI chips on it
Depends on the specific headphones
especially with the advertised range limited to 20-20k on bluetooth
and 4-40k on wired
side note: you might want to bug them about updating this list @little crater https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-NU-Audio-Official-Certified-Headphones-List-m2948418.aspx
This is an official list of headphones that have been tested and certified to use with the EVGA NU Audio Card. Initially, you will likely only see headphones that we receive as samples from manufacturers, but we will add more over time. This list should not be taken as a be...
its not a downside that they have not tested
i just personally find it quite amusing :)
lol
it definitely can be.
heck, i dont see a reason it isnt solid (looking at the specs/components)
it would just show a bit more ... commitment from them if that list was actually at least touched since last year
im just a convenience over quality kinda guy, and considering i want my mx4s for when im away from my pc, i figured i would want to use them with my pc as well without dropping too much money on a full blown external dac/amp
msrp is like 250
gah!
half of which is probably the evga tax
which is why i would only buy it from the b stock for 80
assuming it ever shows up again
sonys spec sheet isnt helping much
i cant tell what the impedance of the headphones is
oh wow thats small
i have been trying to convince myself that i dont need this
wow thats crazy expensive for such a small piece of equipment
ahh, is this the newer version or something?
its the portable upgrade to it
@amber oracle so for a dac setup you just need a dac and headphones right or is there something else
Wow that looks tiny
Amp depends on the headphone tho afaik
here is the actual page for the HD https://centrance.com/dacport-hd/
well, as my current setup update plans stand, ill be watching the evga nu b stock now that ive confirmed that it will work. im also watching it because it matches the color scheme of my future build
ah :)
lets clarify a bit
you want the amp for driving a specific set of headphones
the DAC for the "sound"
the Dacport is a combined DAC and AMP
and yes, that is not logical
because we normally just write dac/amp
and / is normally meant as "this OR that"
here it means "this AND that"
does that answer it for you ?
okay so it is just a dac amp combo
aye
okay thats what i kinda thought but i got thrown off by ur comment cause idk much about audio
and because i personally daily drive a pair of 990 250ohms, not having a amp is just really a gesture in futility IF i also want battery life on the go
the 990's can really really suck up power
hm
my first smartphone, the HTC one X, you could physically feel the phone sweating bullets if you asked it to drive those headphones
you good with recommendations?
dac/amp
we should get @brisk parcel to move his lazy behind in here too
(mainly so he doesnt pout about missing a audio talk again)
yeah you two and ghost are the only people that ik that are good with audio stuff
at its core, it comes down to figuring out what kind of "sound" you want/like
what kind of sounds do you mean? like bassy or no
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/centrance-dacport-slim.21134/reviews <- try and have a look at this guys review, specifically the "comparison" section
(i had that one handy, because i was looking for the original price earlier)
sorry @tight pulsar i meant, the section just ABOVE the comparison
(i really should have just done this from the start)
what you can probably notice is that there are a LOT of "wishy washy" words that dont on their own mean all that much
but for me, because i have tried a number of dac/amp and headphones, it gives a fairly decent starting point/idea about how that one sounds
but the words, just read without that context? close to useless imo
lol i just have the cloud 2’s and apple earbuds so i dont have much experience
:)
and no to say that i dont want to talk about it, i really do.
But i think you are better served IF we can talk when its not just you and me
because sound is so preference based etc
yeah i get u ive got dinner rn but ill be free after
Idk much about soundcards, but for amps and dacs I know a lot of people like something like the schiit fulla or hell for entry level, and ye it’s about what sound you like. Many people prefer mids, but I often see others that prefer “v shaped” basically higher in bass and treble. You can always look at what others say to get a feel of how they might sound, then listen to some in person to see what sound best fits you.
sorry guys
I'm here
I was watching a movie
I'm sure you've all heard of it
The Wolf of Wall Street, 3 hours long but wow
great movie
anyway
give me a rundown
what'd I miss
and hey @amber oracle don't think I didn't see what you said
so basically im trying to pick/learn about a dac/amp
@tight pulsar DAC= Digital audio converter. Soul purpose is to take the digital signal from the PC and convert it to audio recognizable by headphones. And Amp takes that signal and adds power to run various level and sizes of resistance and power headphones use
as for brands. Lots out there, depends if you want a more analytical or warm sound
Analytical is good for sending through a equalizer to make it warmer to your liking
is who I use atm with Dolby atmos on the windows side for gaming directional sound
I can tell you right now that the HEL will do both jobs easily as an all in one and can drive 600 ohm headphones to unreasonably loud levels. once you equalize it, really nice
hm
ive seen a decent amount of recommendations for jds models like the element line or atom, any opinions on those?
I personally dont have any first hand experience. Z reviews on youtube might have dac/amp reviews. he does alot of audio stuff
ic
if anything. hes got a wide variety of speaker and headphone reviews of all types
@tight pulsar go to his videos. Hes got all sorts of amp reviews. just checked
^
@wild sparrow got you @tight pulsar
personally, of everything I've tried, I'm gonna go for a schiit modi and magni
To me magni and modi stack have a bit of a warmer sound than my motu m2 which interfaces goal is to have neutral sound, I prefer the schiit for general listening, and the motu when doing something in audio correction, sound design etc
So out the box they arent very bassy buy with some Eq adjustment they are indeed quite nice
should i go with a Kemove Snowfox or Glorious GMMK?
@calm cobalt I main the GMMK White Ice and it is really good
but if you wanna save some money then you can get the Snowfox
Whats a good monitor recommendation for my friend Im giving her my pc with a 1080ti and i7700k she would like to keep it cheap
What price do you consider "cheap"?
Under 200$
Lemme check if g241 is in stock again
I'm selling my pc to her for 380$
Looks like it is
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047
Well, I haven't bought any, but it should be decent consider MSI is a large company and as I haven't heard about any major qc issues
@daring zenith thanks for the help!
u can also just rma it if theres an issue
(which is the advantage of a large company)
any nice white audiophile like headphones??
something along these lines
Hello everyone. I'd appreciate any suggestions on a streaming cam. Budget is $100 or so
@hollow pond the Sennheiser hd 599s are ivory by default
My mic setup
gimmie @karmic bramble
Haha no
I wish I had a mic on an arm
I feel like kind of an idiot for just getting a standing mic and I don't have a really good spot for it
I sold a bunch of old computer parts to buy this gear. I think I dropped around $400 on my audio setup (not including speakers)
I wanna use an XLR setup but for cheap 
on the cheap you can get something like a xm8500 mic with a uphoria um2 interface, or you can get something like a samson q2u and get a nice interface later as it has usb and xlr, but there isn't too much difference using the q2u with usb vs xlr besides upgradability, and the uphoria um2 mentioned earlier just has a bit of a high noise floor. so cheap can be done and is upgradable in the future, but whether it is worth it or not it up to you
Is 2560x1440 worth it if its still high refresh rate
yes
@calm cobalt its the best thing i've experienced
i can't go back to 60hz
like actually
ok
can someone help me out with choosing a headset
what are you looking for? @heady spruce
a good mic
or pure audiophile
budget?
gaming or not?
i'm gonna get this one keyboard
what keyboard @north nimbus ?
just needed to get the link
yeah i'm getting the pink one
it's a good 60% though
Reason: Bad word usage
i like 60%
ooh
did i use a word
i hate that
it is so natural i do not perceive it
i need to start throwing in the hecks again
everything has mixed reviews in the world of inexpensive keyboards
yes true
it's likely the polarizing nature of the optical switches
those are probably a whole new feel
thats why i wouldn't reccomend most cheap keebs
with the exception of a few on millenial engineers that have genuine reviews by youtubers
sometimes you want an aesthetic
i like how it says it has swappable switches but only within gateron optical
so like
you have 4 choices maybe
is it $300 or $200
also is it cute
its cheaper i believe
then your other one
and i have personally owned it
and its rlly good
wait what
like most hotswap boards
i am pretty sure they are different
gaterons are cherry mx clones
they have optical sensors in every single switch
they have probably an extra power lead
to connect to the optical sensor
i believe this is cheaper than your other one
it is the same price
and it has genuine youtube reviews
it isn't cute, but i can get razer keycaps to make it cute
Reason: Bad word usage
oh lmao no
NO
those curved keys are hecking bad
i do not like them and think they can go to heck
nvm i was looking at a different keyboarrd
i'm ridiculousu
razer sells a pink PBT keycap set for like $30 yo
yeah it does
it's nice too with nice looking text font
if ur looking for aesthetic
i need aesthetic
i do because i like cute stuff
who doesn't?
i also like anime but i like manga more probably
manga is good
i read a lot of yuri/trans/queer manga because heck yes
i will tell you how it is
it looks so good with that font on the keycaps too
so i'm sold on it pretty much
@celest canyon
My wifi card is pci-e and thats it... No wires or power connectors, just plug into pci-e slot and thats it. No USB headers taken up.Do you have a picture?
@wraith flint oh, hey. sorry for the delay. Can you give me your make / model of your wifi card? Is it also bluetooth?
@celest canyon I have a TP-Link WDN4800. And no, it is not BT 
while I'm here, maybe you all can help me. I have a storage array case that's just drive bays, no motherboard. I get the SAS channels via SFF-8088 cables from the case next to it. The drive arrays also have some bluetooth ports on them, but I'd need to get the bluetooth from the other system if I wanted to use them. The back of the case has something that seems to be most commonly referred to as a "centronics plate". Here, I have pictures.
I don't have permission to attach files, so give me a sec.
dm me the photos and ill send them
done
I was hoping to get something that would fit in to one of those blank "centronics" ports and get a pci-e usb-c card to connect the two cases together
I found some things that look like they might work, but there's nothing that will mount in those little brackets, I don't think.
there's i/264787458209 on the eist of bays.
also if i/392013567133 was mounted on a centronics plate, it would work. I would prefer to have two or three of them on a single plate if I could find something like that.
I'm trying to find a dedicated microphone and a headset that will work best with a future build. Anyone able to offer some insight?
@west hornet @brisk parcel if either or both of you could give Caleb a hand, it would be appreciated :)
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@gray onyx budget? and do you prefer mic quality or headphone? open back or closed back?
@west hornet Sub 300 for both. Mic quality is significantly more important to me. Don't know enough about open vs closed to have an opinion.
300 for each? or combined
Combined
also willing to consider a headset+mic combo if you feel the quality in the mic is there.
it a little hard to fit in something like xlr with cost of interface, but for standalone mic, you can probably get a elgato wave 1, along with maybe beyerdynamic dt 770 pro or dt 990 pro, main difference between them being the 770 is closed back and the 990 open back. you could also look at other options for headphones like the ath m40x or sennheiser hd58x. to me the wave 1 sounds like the best mic for it's price point, if backround noise is a issue than dynamic could be better option so maybe samson q1u and dt 770 pro. the beyerdynamics people say are a little bright in sound so if that bother you might want to look at the sennheisers
i try to think, maybe xlr path you can fit in a focusrite scarlet solo + neat king bee for mic and ath m40x for headphone or other 100usd headphones
neat king bee does have fantastic sound, doesn't look the prettiest to some xD but sound is most important
sorry, lot of text 😛
I just wanna add that if you have tinnitus closed back isn't very great
open back has very nice soundstage, only main disadvantage of open is people outside being able to hear and you hear others outside
but ye for mic sound quality and upgradability i'd go with king bee and ath, for usb the first one
yeah I just mean like closed back headphones though that really do block out all outside noise, it does amplify the effects of tinnitus a little bit
I was split between sennheiser gsp 500 and 600s and got the 600s because people said the closed back gave them more immersion. my last headset was open back and i didn't have any issues but with my 600s my tinnitus is a bit more prominent
not really an issue unless theres nothing playing from them at all, but if you care about that it's worth considering
@west hornet sorry had to get on the phone. Mind if I pm you shortly?
@gray onyx that’s fine
I'm still concerned that if I do get the 6xx I won't be satisfied with the bass
Or the "pressure" I guess
I feel the 6xx is pretty even, not too much bass that it is muddy and not too little. Some people say they lack a bit in the sub bass, but I find the bass to be just plenty. Has a nice warm sound when connected to my schiit stack
@gray onyx - I like my Jabra Evolve 80 well enough that I got one for each of my kids. I use them pretty much all day for my work, and still use them on the weekends for gaming.
Is the Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx good its an ips panel, 144hz, 1ms response time and its 2560x1440? for $420
https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/black-aavara-av-ds610-stand/p/N82E16824969018 thinking of getting this monitor stand. Any better suggestions? (x5 23 inch, x1 27 inch)
i clicked and it said sorry we couldnt find this item
anyone here an audiophile thats knows a fair amount of speakers and such?
i saw these and i liked them
someone on ebay is selling the speakers without the controller in the middle
was wondering i it'd still work without it and pairing it with the ones i have currently and possibly getting a second sub
and if not that then maybe just another pair of these with the sub
anyone who uses a 60% keyboard and thoughts compared to tenkeyless? looking at doing a first time mech build, and i'm thinking 60% to start, because i can put together an entry level one for about $80 all said and done
but i've never actually scaled down that far, i've used full size until a few months ago when i picked up a corsair tenkeyless
https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL850-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07TD94TQF/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=lg%2B27gl850&qid=1599464528&s=electronics&sr=1-3&th=1 to my understanding, @calm cobalt this one is a little more expensive but measurably faster
https://youtu.be/T5Loh7vOcVM at least according to
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hmm im gonna check it out
im looking for a mechanical keyboard that has short keytravel i am very used to short key travel and i have not been able to get used to the long key travel of my redragon k552
@hollow pond i would not recommend that you try that.
because the sub in those systems contains the amp
and the amp is scaled to the satellites that come with the sub.
Linear switches might have easier actuation
or just speed switches
linears still have the same actuation distance as tactile or clickies
Oh okay thanks @amber oracle
What about my other idea with getting a second pair of them?
Also does anyone know if this is a good audio interface?
It's local where I'm at and it sells for $80 brand new just looking for someone who has knowledge on this kind of stuff
MXL 990, XLR Connector Condenser Microphone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002GIRP2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_K87vFbT2687ZH
And someone's selling this for like $30 and it comes with everything so I think it's a good what do yall think?
same problem/challenge really @hollow pond
which of the questions @hollow pond ?
i cannot see the first link
as in, it does not open
and iirc, Vault makes different models :)
the mic could be quite nice
but you will need a interface that uses XLR (or adapter at least)
Yeah that's why I was thinking of getting that interface
Lemme try and send it again
Vault AI22 24-Bit/96kHz Audio Interface with 2 Inputs and 2 Outputs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KFPZ6K2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rs8vFb1WE3J6D
@amber oracle found it on Amazon
for a beginner interface that is fine
especially for the price you might be able to get it at
Alright cool
best of luck :)
Thx
What is the cheapest best gaming mouse on the market
How cheap?
The viper mini is 40
Model o/o- for 50
I think there’s some ajazz clone of the model o for 25
Model d/d- for 50
Even cheaper g203/102
@west hornet u around?
maybe
good enough
hurp de derp!
trying to get a dac/amp and headphone set up for like 25-350, any suggestions?
250-350?
yeah that
no $25 tops :v
25-350 lol
the most funky of ranges
just for general listening?
yeah games and music
for dac/amp i am schiit fan
so maybe hel or magni modi stack. do you know if you want open or closed back headphone?
open back preferred but im not gonna die if its closed back
then maybe dt 990 pro or hd58x
if you ever want xlr mic you could possibly get interface for dac/amp, they are more meant for critical listening tho
i would always look at reviews of some of these headphones if you can't listen in person to get idea of what you might like 🙂
Any audiophile headset plus mic combo for under 100?
Or should I go with a gaming headset
Are wireless or wired headphones better? Or is it solely preference
@arctic juniper preference
wired better, wireless has packetloss and wireless headphones require a amp and dac built in which drives up the cost, problem with wired is there is a cable
@proper sphinx the 37X are great if you can find them in stock
aside from that, the cooler master MH751-752s are just a reskin of takstar pro 82s
the Cloud alpha from hyperx are good too, but they're a bit more expensive than your budget
Anyone have JLB Quantum 300’s
@brisk parcel are the gsp 300’s good?
they are, but tbh you can get better for your money
i.e, the other 2 I mentioned, the cooler masters should be in stock
Reason: Bad word usage
ooooooh
Right now the gsp 300’s are cheaper than the mh751’s
is the corsair void elite any good. plan on buying the logictech gpro X headset but i like having second options just in-case
What's the best way to approach learning more about keyboards? So many switches, colors, ect.
anyone here has one of those pre-built coiled cables from Matrix?
just going to warn you @gray onyx its a black hole for money
Seems like it. I've spent about 2 hours on the /r/ mechanical keyboards wiki it's crazy
@tight pulsar you around? and up for some keyboard talk?
@west hornet it IS nachos that can ramble on and on about keyboards right?
yes nacho boy
good :)
Whats a good 24" 144hz monitor under $200
does anyone know some good cheaper priced keyboard and mouse?
im going to bed now so if someone has something for me ping me so i remember to come and look
anyone have any experience with the cheap GK61 mech keyboard kits? i'm thinking of doing a first time build with maybe some gateron reds and whatever keycap set strikes my fancy, but i'm just curious if anyone has worked with that particular board before
nope, that that board, i have gateron reds here in a ergodox
but that is all i can throw in the ring on this one.
how do you like the reds? i have cherry reds in my corsair, and i like the feel of them. from what i was reading, it's the same actuation on the gaterons
ahh ok
i would have to check my notes thou
because i cannot remember if this particular ergodox is the one with mixed springs and switches
the kit itself is cheap enough that i might just pull the trigger anyway, it's $50 plus shipping via banggood or $65 w/prime shipping via amazon, plus a mess of switches for $15 and a set of keycaps for another $20 or so
yeah, that is (in this context) nothing
the software is supposedly a nightmare, but if i can get some basic lighting control through it, that's a minor headache
it's just clunky and if you get the wrong version, it's not in english heh
but my understanding is that it lets you not only control lighting, but set the multiple custom layouts that you can flip through via function key combos
i like my corsair, but it's fixed to blue LED's, so if i can have the experience of building my own keyboard and get full customizable RGB on top of it, i think it's worth it
Hello! quick question for you guys if you know cuz I haven't been able to get a solid answer anywhere. If I wanted to return a open box keyboard would i get the full refund or have a 15% restocking fee? or not receive one at all? or is there someone in newegg staff i can ask?
you can DM @fallow glacier and they'll get back to you during business hours
thanks!
can earbuds have incredibly good bass or is there a technical limitation
like is over-ear just gonna be better in that department
iem's can have stupid good sound
but it normally circles back to the "pressure" problem
as in, people "expect" a specific feeling on/in their ears
if that is not there? you could be vibrating them around with bass and they would still tell you that there is not enough bass
@amber oracle im here now :v
lol I just wokeup, what timing.
https://keyboard.university/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hlf0ql/a_complete_beginner_guide_to_the_world_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf are both good starting places, geekhack.org has a bunch of people and info, and larger discords like taeha types’s and kbdfans’s have a bunch of people and info, and taekeyboards has a pretty good tutorial
just like a wizard @tight pulsar you show up when you are supposed to
but that also means we can feed you to the Balrog
:(
hey, you get swanky clothes after it happens
u should be fed to the balrog for using an ergo board 
considering how much i type? heck no.
they look weird tho
that they do
@amber oracle Was talking to a B&H audio rep. He mentioned that KVM switches do not affect audio quality?
depends on the kvm switch
that is not a question, as in, i can go to one of my clients and grab a kvm switch that i know doesnt affect it
i can also leave a sizeable amount of money to check it out of the storage facility
but yes, you can go "around" a kvm
then yes, it obviously wont affect anything.
however, as the situation was when we talked about a kvm, there that would have resulted in an extra wire
which would have worked counter to what you wanted to obtain with the kvm
does that make sense?
Yes
not saying there isnt a kvm switch that can solve it, or that there is one i dont know about (there are hundreds of them that i dont know about)
but from my understanding of how they work. what i said above and previously is the case
Having a hard time deciding on a USB microphone/arm or like a modmic setup for some HD 6xx that I am trying to source. Main appeal for me with the standalone microphone is the higher sound quality, arm flexibility, and not having to charge it. Would love some advice.
bought all the stuff to build my GK61, will probably be here in 2 ish weeks.
Well idk I think the perceived pressure might be all that matters then
Because straight up my cheap headset sounds better when hooked up to an amp than the T2's do and I'm disappointed
@tight pulsar while it was very interesting to learn about board components it seems like both links have to do more with building a keyboard. While I'm certainly interested in doing that someday I'm hoping to find more information on purchasing a ready to go board.
yeah a lot of guides are more that, id just look up the part u wanna learn about like “switch guide” or smth
thoughts on the glorious model o?
ugly as sin
and a bacteria bomb just waiting to happen
i do not want to think about how disgusting those cutouts are going to be after just a months use
i have a model o and ive used it for a long time
its really solid if you want a light mouse with rgb
and the opinion on looks are different person to person @paper venture
the cable is amazing
the feet are also amazing
and the scroll wheel feels great
it won't get dirty if you treat it normally
you got a claw grip @sharp kindle ?
a fingertip grip
i just palm it :/
well, that is claw :)
but model worth the price?
you dont "rest" on it in either is my point :)
o
yes its great for the price
if you want a claw grip mouse get the model d
I'm fingertip grip :D
I think claw has you like arching your fingers to the point of using your fingernails, and fingertip is more smooth using the tip of your finger
viper mini vs g203
not entirely sure if this is the right channel, but has anyone gotten a monitor-mounted desk lamp before? if so, are there any dece brands to look at?
@tight pulsar So I know I want a 65%, MX Cherry Blue, PBT keycaps. I don't understand keycap profiles or production methods of the keycaps. With that information do you have any suggestions on how to find boards of that specific style?
theres a decent amount of keyboards on mechanicalkeyboards.com that fit that, easiest way to find options would be to google 65% keyboards (most should have pbt caps and/or cherry mx blue options)
I'd love to find a 65% with this type of aesthetic
varmilo va68 and leopold fc660m are my recommendations, both with all the things you wanted and 160 and 110 prices
get rid of the http and send the link
the discord you recommended also said the leopold was a good buy
iqunix.store/products/f96-coral-sea-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=30308777001020
leopold makes pretty good boards, a lot of people like them
they also said durgod hades 68 with something called jades is a good buy
and for keycap stuff, basically the profile is the shape of the keycap (look up keycap profile chart) and for production method look for doubleshot or dyesub (legends dont wear basically at all)


