#peripherals-and-displays

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brisk parcel
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I start my new job tomorrow so I'll be able to start actually getting things yay

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but I gotta pay off school first, should still have a little to spare though

amber oracle
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the following will not make you happy

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save

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dont spend

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save

brisk parcel
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wdym by it won't make me happy? I mean I've listened and I think it's worth it

gleaming quail
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How much is a good gaming mouse

swift lantern
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wym you save? our capitalist commodity based economy dictates that I spend as much as possible. And yet, it is in my personal benefit to save as much as possible

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could this be... a contradiction

west hornet
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sad

sharp kindle
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honestly companies like drop need to be more like glorious

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because its all about transparency

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if you read the post he addresses everything that happens

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and he doesnt try to cover anything up like drop

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props to glorious

amber oracle
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the challenge with that is that people see a yellow "sale" sticker and they wet their pants while throwing money at the screen

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without actually engaging their brains and thinking just a bit first

sharp kindle
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true but them withdrawing the trademark is great

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and it shows that they arent complete a-holes

amber oracle
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i am not saying the above in support of Drop.

sharp kindle
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which is good for a large company that is doing great in the mouse world

amber oracle
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but, they do have their bright spots

sharp kindle
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and is progressing in the keeb world

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yes such as the non diffused leds on the drop alt and ctrl lol

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ok bad joke

amber oracle
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however, unless something changes in the mindset of the people that use those sites ... i think i know where it all leads

sharp kindle
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yep

amber oracle
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heck i greatly enjoyed massdrops existence when i got my first ergodox

tight pulsar
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drop used to be a lot better but i think they switched ownership and things kinda went downhill a little

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i dont really get the point about the trademark tho, holy pandas have been around nearly 2.5 years and nobody has tried to do anything with the name, maybe a new vendor would try to steal it but that seems highly unlikely

hazy fiber
calm cobalt
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Do u guys think the 360hz will be in stock In January, I’m building my new setup in January

daring zenith
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Can't predict the future, wait and see.

sharp kindle
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@calm cobalt watch Linus Tech Tip's video on it. You can barely tell the difference between 240 hz and 360hz so its much smarter to invest in a 240 hz panel

tight pulsar
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smarter or cheaper :v

sharp kindle
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both

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and also, how many of your games are actually gonna consitently hit over 360 fps? (other than games like CSGO or Valorant)

calm cobalt
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fn

sharp kindle
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its not worth it @calm cobalt you wont see a difference between 240 hz and 360 hz

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not worth it at all

swift lantern
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Tin t2 are supposed to get here on friday

sharp kindle
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nice

tight pulsar
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be sure to gib review

calm cobalt
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But I’m planning to play 360fps

sharp kindle
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but its not worth it

swift lantern
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wait for higher response time monitors I guess

swift lantern
tight pulsar
jovial scaffold
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Pog

west hornet
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Buying parts off discord

wraith roost
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Getting my first ever mechanical keyboard this month (I’m 34) and I can’t decide between cherry reds And browns. I play mostly FPS.

brisk parcel
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I recommend reds but it comes down to preference

tight pulsar
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hey no it wasnt off discord

west hornet
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Looks a lot like discord xD

tight pulsar
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whatever its still gonna be a cool keyboard

jovial scaffold
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Lol

sharp kindle
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is it custom build?

tight pulsar
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yeah

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private group buy with 2 other people on discord

sharp kindle
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what switches?

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wow pog

tight pulsar
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everglide pinks

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still need to mod them tho :/

sharp kindle
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niceeeeee

celest canyon
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hi folks

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I bought a pci-e bluetooth / wifi card and I'm generally pretty happy with it aside from it eating up one of the usb 9-pin headers on the motherboard

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do there exist any pcie bt cards that self-host the usb bus the bluetooth draws from?

swift lantern
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I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but there are just usb bluetooth adapters

wraith flint
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@celest canyon
My wifi card is pci-e and thats it... No wires or power connectors, just plug into pci-e slot and thats it. No USB headers taken up.

Do you have a picture?

tardy pelican
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is your card also bluethooth ?

rich swift
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@daring zenith How do you feel about mechanical keyboards?

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Or perhaps that's more of a @tight pulsar question

daring zenith
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I know the basics, Nachos knows the specifics :D

rich swift
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I'm feeling a little ghetto running with the wired Alienware kbd that came with the PC

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From what I've read, getting into mechanicals can go down quite the rabbit hole

daring zenith
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Custom boards is just deeeeep

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But just "gaming" keyboards aren't too hard

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@rich swift well, first, what's the amount you're willing to spend on a good keyboard?

sharp kindle
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get a switch tester @rich swift

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see if you like linears, clickys, or tactiles

rich swift
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I suppose I'd want to keep it under $150

daring zenith
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Fair enough, that gets you into basically all of the good stuff, and yes, try a keyswitch tester, main switches you'll want to test are the Cherry MX blue/red/brown and Gateron Blue/red/brown

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That'll tell you what type of switches you prefer

rich swift
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I'm not playing FPS, so high-end performance isn't a necessity.

daring zenith
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(since you said you're getting into the mech. Keyboard market I assume you don't know how each thing feels)

rich swift
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You'd be correct there

daring zenith
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It's not for performance, it's for the feeling and personal preference :D

sharp kindle
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linears are smooth, they just go up and down

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clickys have a noticeable bump and a click when it actuates

daring zenith
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Basic idea is Blues are loud clickies, Browns are nice quieter clickies, Reds don't click and don't make noise on the way down.

sharp kindle
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tactiles are clickys that are quieter sound but with the bump

daring zenith
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Browns and such still have a sound, just quieter than blues :p

sharp kindle
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yep mb

rich swift
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I guess for now I'll look up some youtube videos on switch comparisons. If I need to feel it for myself, I'll need to find my way into a store - or just add a switch tester to my monitor order, I suppose

daring zenith
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You best feel it for yourself

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The sound does not mean the feel

hasty vigil
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i am a weird person and i like membrane keyboards (not the memchanical ones) ones like a logitec office keyboard, but i dont have the desk space for that and a mouse can i get some help findng an 87 key membrane keyboard

daring zenith
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Cherry browns sound great, and Gateron browns not so much. But a good amount of people prefer the feel of Gateron browns.

rich swift
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Sweet jebus, what have I gotten myself into?

daring zenith
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Heh, just feel them for yourself

rich swift
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Agreed

daring zenith
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Ignore the build quality on testers and bottom out sound and stuff, just feel the switch as you press them down and find your preference.

amber oracle
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"Sweet jebus, what have I gotten myself into?" <- the start of a endless spiral that is going to cost you a LOT of money over the coming decades

full kelp
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yo uhh i might want a new keyboard is there a clicky blue feel type key but as quiet as possible?

daring zenith
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I think there's another switch similar to browns thats slightly quieter

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@amber oracle we should get that pinned xD

amber oracle
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and ruin the surprise for people?

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nah

placid dune
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Anyone have suggestions for a budget monitor for productivity?

amber oracle
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dell refurb or outlet models

placid dune
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outlet models?

amber oracle
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outlet = store front that focuses on leftover stock

tight pulsar
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hm what

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who ping

amber oracle
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shrugs

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probably a spam Nachos

tight pulsar
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@full kelp best bet would be orings or just slap a bunch of foam to dampen it, zealpc said they were gonna make a silent clicky switch eventually but thats probably gonna be $$$

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@rich swift lol u havent even seen the rabbit hole of weird things yet

full kelp
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orings?

tight pulsar
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yeah

full kelp
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o that looks coo.l

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yea i want to use my keyboard but ppl in zoom have been complaining a bit so

tight pulsar
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i really dislike orings but theyre pretty much the only option

full kelp
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ah

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ok what abt silent keys?

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im using outemu browns rn, like the feel, but feels a bit too loud

tight pulsar
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gateron makes silent browns

calm cobalt
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Purple switches go hard

heady spruce
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I been looking for a new headset can someone help me pick one

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Idk if I should go for a razer kraken ultimate/tournament edition or the astro a40's

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or if there is anything better

daring pollen
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@tight pulsar the silent browns are soooo good

tawdry breach
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@heady spruce dont settle for those gamer headphones you should get the DT series instead because they sound way better and just get another mic ...preferibly the blue series if ur on a budget

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dt 990 is pretty good

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and the audio technica at2020

amber oracle
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nice as the 990's are, they are not for everyone. With them being open

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770 might be more relevant for a shared enviroment

old root
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I'm looking for headphones myself

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I had a paid of Sennheiser 363d's but they broke at the Boom mic (where you move it up and down to mute)

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@heady spruce I got the Lucio headsdet (Overwatch Razer) a few days ago, it's on sale now though. For me the audio is great for GAMING but not for talking/hearing people if that makes sense?

amber oracle
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@brisk parcel around?

old root
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I'm looking for WIRED myself.

brisk parcel
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@amber oracle yes I am

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sorry I have work now lmao

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so what do you need? if you still need it lmao

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OH

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WAIT

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@old root

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you need help picking headphones?

old root
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I had 363d that JUST broke recently. I picked up some Razer nari Lucio headphones that aren't comfy to me.

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The boom mic broke

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On my senns

brisk parcel
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so what's your budget? and yeah ok gotcha

old root
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150-300 max prob. Preferred to be interchangeable with PC and console as well as over ear and wired

brisk parcel
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and I assume you want a headset and not just headphones

old root
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Anything relatable to the 363ds

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Yes siree

brisk parcel
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okay let me have a look 1 sec

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okay so some pretty good options for that, the PC37Xs are really good for the price, they're like the 363D refresh(the 373D) but their drivers are more audiophile-like, akin to the 58X drivers, so you know imaging will be lit

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they're on amazon but they're a massdrop collab

old root
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How about these

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Eh idk if that has an adjustable boom mic. I know the senns do.

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Massdrop any less quality?

brisk parcel
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and another unlikely option, the cooler master MH751-2s. they're the best for their price, and considered to be one of the best "gaming" headsets. they're reskins of the takstar pro 82s but they're wider because the back of the earcups leave more room for the driver

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and no not at all

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I have 58Xs that I use for gaming myself and they're amazing for that and music

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tbh I would tell you to go pick up the 58Xs and buy a proper mic for PC but you need interchangeability

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the 37Xs are semi-open back, and the CM MH751-2s are closed back

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and tbh I don't recommend any "gaming" headphones like that

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not even the steelseries apex pro because yeah they're audiophile but you can get much better for less money

old root
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Oh those logitech I posted DO. Have a boom mic that moves to mute

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And a light to tell you it's off. It would go with my logitech rgb keyboard too

brisk parcel
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my biggest issue with those is, like I said, they're "gaming" and not really meant for the audio itself. the price isn't really the best either

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but I can't stop you from your own opinion

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my job is to give you my recommendations and opinions

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and you get to make your decision based on that

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so yes I will talk against them but I don't want you to feel like I'm dissing on your choice

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tbh I would give the 37Xs a try, and if you don't like them you can return them, but it's up to you

hazy fiber
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@brisk parcel Considering getting a pair of Sennheiser or Grado headphones for my flac collection. I'm not super familiar with Sennheiser's lineup, do you have any recommendations for me to look over? Looking for maybe open backed wired ones, mid-range (ie under $500)

brisk parcel
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that's a great question actually

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so under $500 opens up a good bit of options

amber oracle
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"sorry I have work now lmao" <- excuses, all i see is excuses :P

tight pulsar
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only a good bit of options da_heck

daring zenith
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Naed, get to your work now :P

brisk parcel
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you have the 58Xs, 6XXs(from massdrop), and you have the HD 600, 650(the 6XXs are just a reskin of these, exact same hardware), and 660s which are all very solid, but depending on your listening will depend on which one you like the most

amber oracle
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i am done for the day

daring zenith
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I see

brisk parcel
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that's just for sennheisers

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so, what music do you listen to the most? what's your preferred sound signature?

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do you perfer more "neutral" or "warm" sound?

hazy fiber
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I do a lot. Anything but country, so EDM, Pop, Classic Rock, Death Metal, Ledd Zeppelin 🙂

brisk parcel
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you do what a lot?

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I'm a bit lost on that lmao

hazy fiber
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My music taste is varied I mean

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lol

brisk parcel
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oh

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gotcha makes sense

hazy fiber
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I'd prefer more neutral sound for this set, as I have my WH1000XM4s for more bassy stuff

brisk parcel
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perfect, I'm gonna say to go have a look at the HD 660S then

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they inherit the good from the 600 and 650s, but are a little more neutral, but can be warm on some really smooth tracks if they need to be

hazy fiber
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Sweet, I'll take a look

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Thanks

brisk parcel
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sure thing!

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and yes NAED it's an excuse

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9-5 tues-fri because I need 3 days for school work

amber oracle
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:D

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thank you for helping @old root with his question :)

brisk parcel
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no worries

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glad to help

old root
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Sorry for that not saying thanks myself too

brisk parcel
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nah man it's alright lmao

old root
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The 363s were $300 when I bought em

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I could pay that again

brisk parcel
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yeah but you don't need to trust me

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price doesn't always mean good

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you'll be very surprised with the 37Xs

old root
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I.e these Lucio ones

brisk parcel
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and super happy too

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I know I'm some random guy on the internet but, I promise you won't regret the 37Xs or even the MH751-2s

old root
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I was thinking audio technica beforehand. Sennheiser or AT.

brisk parcel
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they're both good but I've always been more of a fan of sennheiser's sound

devout fiber
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Are there any cheap 60-80% white and RGB kahil box white keyboards

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Like, as cheap as you can get

brisk parcel
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I coulda swore you said that before lmao

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but, have no clue, sorry sadpepe

swift lantern
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The longest 3 days ever for these earbuds

devout fiber
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lol i did ask it earlier

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but decided to delete and ask once your guys' headphone convo died down

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so i wouldnt interrupt anything

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i kinda wanna ping nachos for an answer but that would be annoying to him wouldnt it

tight pulsar
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yes

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pretty sure anne pro 2 has them or get a cheap hotswap board and put them in

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or if u have a soldering iron u could get a $15 plastic case and just build a cheap custom

calm cobalt
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Hey

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Anybody know of good keyboards?

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I dont know much about thwm

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Just that I would like anything better than membrane. Mainly looking for mechanical

tight pulsar
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what price/size

devout fiber
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@tight pulsar sorry for the late reply
Never thought of a custom keyboard? can you elaborate on that?

tight pulsar
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@devout fiber what questions u have?

daring zenith
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build the whole thing

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be like nachos

devout fiber
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well, i know theres cheap soldering irons i could get
I know like, nothing about keyboards other than some of the switches there are, so, can you like give a general explanation of everything

tight pulsar
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okay

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so the switches get soldered (or if its a hotswap board u just plop them in the sockets) into the pcb, which you screw into the case usually at the bottom, and then put keycaps on

devout fiber
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sounds simple enough

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how would i get the glorious rgbs?

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they come with the pcb id assume

tight pulsar
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yes

copper adder
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yeah, RGB/LED backlighting depends on the board that you end up choosing

tight pulsar
copper adder
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in addition, only some switches are compatible/have slots for LEDs to shine through, so when you choose a switch, make sure it has that

devout fiber
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how much do you think it'd cost for that? Just a super cheap custom one, hotswap preferred

copper adder
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you could always try Drop, they have the CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and other keyboards

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they're all for sure hotswap

tight pulsar
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ya

copper adder
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but there's definitely cheaper hotswap keebs out there as well

devout fiber
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i mean i think building a custom one would be awesome

tight pulsar
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u could probably build a nice cheap one for like 100-120 with hotswap, or like $20 less with a soldered pcb

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including keycaps

devout fiber
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hmmmm

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about as expensive as just buying a ducky or anne pro

copper adder
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really? only that much? i have a feeling it'd hover around the 200-300 mark

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depending on what board you end up wanting

tight pulsar
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an aluminum case would be like $80 more so yeah thats closer to that mark

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but kbdfans has plastic 60% cases for like $15 vs 115 for a aluminum tofu 60%

devout fiber
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huh

copper adder
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i've had a Ducky Shine IV for around....4-5 years now?

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it's worked really well for me but i'm about to start getting into building custom keyboards

devout fiber
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anne pro 2 is like $90 it looks like on the egg, so i guess id just go for that over custom since its cheaper

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but custom will be in my mind for the future

copper adder
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if you need a keyboard stat, get a prebuilt one IMO

tight pulsar
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custom keyboards are fun but the rabbit hole goes down really fast

copper adder
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then once you feel comfortable with dropping 400-500 on a keyboard and shit, you can build your own

devout fiber
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are there any other switches kinda like the box whites?

tight pulsar
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and nothing is ever in stock kekw

daring zenith
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huh

neon quartzBOT
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Mr1111#1350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

daring zenith
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WHAT

devout fiber
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lol

daring zenith
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I was about to be like

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since when can you say dat

tight pulsar
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4-500 would probably be a nice custom, u can get a really solid gasked mounted 60% for like sub 250 built

copper adder
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......yeahhh i'm still questioning my financial decisions

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fair point

tight pulsar
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im far beyond that point already lol

copper adder
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i'm including a GMK keycap set i guess

tight pulsar
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lol ya thats like an extra 150 on the cost

copper adder
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i'm not even gonna be fully custom

but so far i'm getting
Drop CTRL
GMK Ishtar
probably get a set of Glorious Holy Pandas

devout fiber
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$500 is like half my entire setup o_0

tight pulsar
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theres a lot of solid sets 50-100 like the new novelkeys pbt and crp

copper adder
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and that's around $500

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....yeah custom keyboards are very pricey

tight pulsar
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lol my keyboard is twice the price of my gpu feelsbadman

copper adder
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send pics and info

tight pulsar
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ishtar looked nice but i dont really dig the red

copper adder
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fair, different strokes for different folks

devout fiber
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are there any cheap 60-80%s kinda like that? again, white and rgb. I really like clicky but also an thinking about non-clicky so my friends dont get annoyed

tight pulsar
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i have future funk coming in october tho so thats pretty nice

devout fiber
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they get annoyed my my current outemu blues a lot

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maybe i'll just get another one of my keyboards but with black switch -- theyre super cheap too, like $40

copper adder
devout fiber
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aaaaaah but also 60% would be nice for my small desk

tight pulsar
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im in a private groupbuy for a otd356 mini clone, gonna use some everglide pinks and 205g0/that other stuff

copper adder
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that is hotswappable @devout fiber

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the one i linked

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but no switches or keycaps

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@tight pulsar am not familiar with literally anything you said except the lube lol

tight pulsar
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hm copper is an interesting plate choice for that

devout fiber
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pricey

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im not going over 100

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80-90 is max

copper adder
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wow that's a pretty board

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Corsair has some cheap keebs right?

daring zenith
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not exactly cheap if you're talking like k70

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those are like 120$, and nachos hates their bottom row and keycaps

tight pulsar
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but silver

copper adder
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k63 is only 80 apparently

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@tight pulsar oh my lawd that is beautiful

tight pulsar
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ya otd boards are hella sexy

copper adder
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i need to get a switch tester

tight pulsar
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but theyre really expensive cause how old they are and how few there are

copper adder
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icic

devout fiber
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ok ok

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whats a cheap moderately decent 60%

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just want to to be mech and 60%
looking for white, black, or brown switches i guess

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i really want to know a range of stuuff

tight pulsar
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hex3ccccccccccc

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gk61 is good

devout fiber
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hex3c isnt available to buy yet?

tight pulsar
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no the groupbuy ended a while ago

devout fiber
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dang

tight pulsar
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i was joking about that

devout fiber
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how are the gateron switchs on the gk61? what are they like compared to outemu since ive only ever used outemu

tight pulsar
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i got one and it should be here in a week or 2 and i luv hex keyboards

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gaterons are nice

devout fiber
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what are silvers and yellows like

tight pulsar
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optical?

devout fiber
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i mean like compared to other switches

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yes optical

tight pulsar
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theyre speed switches

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yellow are 10g lighter but theyre like cherry mx speed switches where they actuate faster

devout fiber
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gotcha gotcha

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so like, reds but fast?

tight pulsar
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yeah

devout fiber
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what about silvers

tight pulsar
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silver are slightly heavier yellows

devout fiber
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got it

tight pulsar
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theyre in between reds and silver in terms of weight

devout fiber
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and then blacks are heavier reds kinda correct?

tight pulsar
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yeah

devout fiber
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mmk mmk

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im kinda debating between silver, brown, and blacks

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on the GK61

tight pulsar
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if u wanna type at all id pick browns or blacks

devout fiber
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i mostly game, but i do have to type for school

tight pulsar
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well ive gtg so rip

devout fiber
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dang bye

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ill decide on my own. watch some videos

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thanks a lot for the help though, seriously

tight pulsar
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lol ur good this is what i do

devout fiber
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ok ive decided blacks

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but last question once you get back, are there any 80%s in that price range? white, rgb black switches is what im looking for
thanks!

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oh yeah @ me too cause im going offline rn

tight pulsar
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hm varmilo has good tkl (80%)’s but might be too expensive, id go with something like a gmmk tkl and buy the switches u want

west hornet
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Aww I miss everything

sullen aurora
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is hyperx cloud 2 good

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mr 1111 says no

mellow leaf
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Sad

devout fiber
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Ew membrane

mellow leaf
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What’s that mean

devout fiber
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It’s a membrane keyboard, not mechanical

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Ok so basically

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Mech is better

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@tight pulsar what size keyboard do you have

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I really want a 60%, but literally the only thing holding me back is how hard it’s gonna be to press the F5 key so I can go into 3rd person in Minecraft Dumb

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I guess I could just make it a different key, but is it hard to press the F keys quickly since you’d have to press alt+F?

mellow leaf
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So what keyboard should I get in the future Bc I wanna upgrade and also I love the clicking noise my keyboard makes

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Type type type

devout fiber
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Just get something with a blue switch

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If you’re looking for cheap I use the E-Element Z77 with outemu blue switches. Super clicky, and for $30-40 it’s awesome

mellow leaf
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I don’t need cheap

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Anymore

devout fiber
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Idk really then, ask someone else lol. I don’t look into keyboards much

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Well, there was the Duck One Two mini with kahil box white switches I was eyeballing. That’s a pretty good clicky keyboard. Small tho

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@mellow leaf

mellow leaf
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i can just on amazon

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also a black keyboard would look nice since ive been using that from day 1

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i like this

tawdry breach
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i got the grado rs2 and the cobalt c09

tight pulsar
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mines gonna be a 60

lone lodge
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idk if this is the right chat, but i’m building my first and build now but i dont know what wifi card is a good one trying to stay at around $50

daring zenith
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@lone lodge you could just get a motherboard with built in wifi

lone lodge
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i was looking into that, but i just dont know what would be a good one to get, i’m trying to keep my build around $900 but be able to upgrade in the future

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right now i have a ryzen 5 3600, 1660 super, and gigabyte b550 aorus elite motherboard

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nzxt h510 case, 3600mhz ram because i heard that it’s good to have faster ram with amd processors

daring zenith
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MSI B550 Pro-vdh wifi

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simple

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get rid of the h510

tight pulsar
sharp kindle
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pog

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they sound better than arctic pandas imo

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the thocc when lubed is amazing

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too bad you have to lube them to sound good

swift lantern
west hornet
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Oof

swift lantern
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T2 finally here

swift lantern
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So far they are pretty dang nice, excellent clarity

tight pulsar
#

hm

west hornet
tight pulsar
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are they worth $50 in ur opinion

swift lantern
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I'm not 100% sure

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If they last for long enough I'd say sure, and god that cable sure is nice

west hornet
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Ye the cable I especially nice for 50usd

swift lantern
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they're pretty comfy too

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they have really good clarity

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I'd like more bass but I can't complain

west hornet
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The blue tips not everyone likes but they also have silicone so it good

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I believe the tin t2 is more mid centric but I could be wrong, could put some eq

swift lantern
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that might be right, I noticed they have very clear vocals

west hornet
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The Apple earbuds I’m using rn hurt my ears, very little bass and one upper mid freq that is very boosted Sick

swift lantern
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apple lol

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I mean I guess I could try painting it thinkW

west hornet
swift lantern
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don't you think a matte black finish would just

tight pulsar
#

pls no sins here

swift lantern
#

?

west hornet
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I like the color as it is

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

amber oracle
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a black cable can be a pita to actually find

west hornet
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Does pop out a bit rather than black which some people don’t like

tight pulsar
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hm might pick up a pair after i sell my keyboard

swift lantern
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I think the colors aren't complimentary to the earbuds themselves

west hornet
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Lol nachos

swift lantern
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I seriously might paint these suckers idk

tight pulsar
#

living paycheck to paycheck is last year im living keyboard to keyboard

west hornet
#

Chocolate to chocolate blobcookie

little crater
#

need audio help. how do you know what type of dac/amp you need to drive a specific pair of headphones?

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like, im planning on getting the sony 1000mx4s by the end of the year, and i need to know what i need to drive them properly when i connect them to my pc using a wire

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im thinking about getting this in the future for my next build, assuming more ever come back into b stock at some point, because i dont want a standalone dac/amp setup, i want it integrated into the pc

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and i need it to look cool and such

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so how do i know if this evga sound card is enough to drive the sony headset?

cursive marsh
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they go by ohms I think

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headphones are xxx ohms, dac/amp drives yyy ohms

west hornet
#

It would certainly be enough to drive, a phone should be able to drive those no problem.

little crater
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so the evga card does up to 600 ohm, so as long as the headphones are less than that i should be fine?

amber oracle
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aye,

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however, i would strongly suggest thinking really hard about the "no dac/amp" stance

little crater
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im not a super audiophile, i would just like an integrated solution for convenience

amber oracle
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i have not personally tried the NU cards (there are more in the series iirc)

little crater
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i was initially just planning on sticking with the bluetooth connection in the future, but decided i should take more advantage over a 350 dollar pair of headphones

west hornet
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Now dac is a different story, but I hear that the nu audio card was decent, stand-alone would be better for upgradability, but honestly I think you would be fine without

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Wireless headphones have a built in amp/dac as well

little crater
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yeah, but i would imagine they arent as goos as a dedicated dac/amp

amber oracle
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ah yes, its the one with the ADI chips on it

west hornet
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Depends on the specific headphones

little crater
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especially with the advertised range limited to 20-20k on bluetooth

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and 4-40k on wired

amber oracle
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side note: you might want to bug them about updating this list @little crater https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-NU-Audio-Official-Certified-Headphones-List-m2948418.aspx

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its not a downside that they have not tested

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i just personally find it quite amusing :)

little crater
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huh

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well, they dont seem to have very many in that list

amber oracle
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aye, which is what i find amusing :)

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i am NOT saying the card cannot be good

little crater
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lol

amber oracle
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it definitely can be.

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heck, i dont see a reason it isnt solid (looking at the specs/components)

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it would just show a bit more ... commitment from them if that list was actually at least touched since last year

little crater
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im just a convenience over quality kinda guy, and considering i want my mx4s for when im away from my pc, i figured i would want to use them with my pc as well without dropping too much money on a full blown external dac/amp

amber oracle
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aye aye

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how much is the NU listed at?

little crater
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msrp is like 250

amber oracle
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gah!

little crater
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half of which is probably the evga tax

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which is why i would only buy it from the b stock for 80

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assuming it ever shows up again

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sonys spec sheet isnt helping much

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i cant tell what the impedance of the headphones is

amber oracle
#

something like a centrance dacport slim

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would do the job just fine

little crater
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oh wow thats small

amber oracle
#

i have been trying to convince myself that i dont need this

little crater
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wow thats crazy expensive for such a small piece of equipment

amber oracle
#

disclosure, i own the dacport slim.

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the slim has served me VERY well

little crater
#

ahh, is this the newer version or something?

amber oracle
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its the portable upgrade to it

tight pulsar
#

@amber oracle so for a dac setup you just need a dac and headphones right or is there something else

daring zenith
#

Wow that looks tiny

amber oracle
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dac + headphones can be enough

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well, dac/amp

daring zenith
#

Amp depends on the headphone tho afaik

amber oracle
#

here is the actual page for the HD https://centrance.com/dacport-hd/

DACport HD Portable USB DAC/AMP with DSD Reference quality USB DAC with a powerful headphone amplifier BUY NOW Power to The Headphones Building on the legacy of the original DACport, Stereofile’s recommended component for many years running, the new version gets smaller and of...

little crater
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well, as my current setup update plans stand, ill be watching the evga nu b stock now that ive confirmed that it will work. im also watching it because it matches the color scheme of my future build

amber oracle
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ah :)

tight pulsar
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hm

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so would just a dac be fine for something like t2’s or dac+amp be better

amber oracle
#

lets clarify a bit

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you want the amp for driving a specific set of headphones

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the DAC for the "sound"

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the Dacport is a combined DAC and AMP

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and yes, that is not logical

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because we normally just write dac/amp

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and / is normally meant as "this OR that"

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here it means "this AND that"

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does that answer it for you ?

tight pulsar
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okay so it is just a dac amp combo

amber oracle
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aye

tight pulsar
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okay thats what i kinda thought but i got thrown off by ur comment cause idk much about audio

amber oracle
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and because i personally daily drive a pair of 990 250ohms, not having a amp is just really a gesture in futility IF i also want battery life on the go

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the 990's can really really suck up power

tight pulsar
#

hm

amber oracle
#

my first smartphone, the HTC one X, you could physically feel the phone sweating bullets if you asked it to drive those headphones

tight pulsar
#

you good with recommendations?

amber oracle
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(first actually usable smartphone i should say)

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for?

tight pulsar
#

dac/amp

amber oracle
#

we should get @brisk parcel to move his lazy behind in here too

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(mainly so he doesnt pout about missing a audio talk again)

tight pulsar
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yeah you two and ghost are the only people that ik that are good with audio stuff

amber oracle
#

at its core, it comes down to figuring out what kind of "sound" you want/like

tight pulsar
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what kind of sounds do you mean? like bassy or no

amber oracle
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(i had that one handy, because i was looking for the original price earlier)

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sorry @tight pulsar i meant, the section just ABOVE the comparison

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(i really should have just done this from the start)

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what you can probably notice is that there are a LOT of "wishy washy" words that dont on their own mean all that much

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but for me, because i have tried a number of dac/amp and headphones, it gives a fairly decent starting point/idea about how that one sounds

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but the words, just read without that context? close to useless imo

tight pulsar
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lol i just have the cloud 2’s and apple earbuds so i dont have much experience

amber oracle
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:)

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and no to say that i dont want to talk about it, i really do.

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But i think you are better served IF we can talk when its not just you and me

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because sound is so preference based etc

tight pulsar
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yeah i get u ive got dinner rn but ill be free after

amber oracle
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hopefully @brisk parcel pops in

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enjoy dinner :)

west hornet
#

Idk much about soundcards, but for amps and dacs I know a lot of people like something like the schiit fulla or hell for entry level, and ye it’s about what sound you like. Many people prefer mids, but I often see others that prefer “v shaped” basically higher in bass and treble. You can always look at what others say to get a feel of how they might sound, then listen to some in person to see what sound best fits you.

brisk parcel
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sorry guys

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I'm here

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I was watching a movie

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I'm sure you've all heard of it

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The Wolf of Wall Street, 3 hours long but wow

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great movie

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anyway

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give me a rundown

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what'd I miss

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and hey @amber oracle don't think I didn't see what you said

tight pulsar
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so basically im trying to pick/learn about a dac/amp

wild sparrow
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@tight pulsar DAC= Digital audio converter. Soul purpose is to take the digital signal from the PC and convert it to audio recognizable by headphones. And Amp takes that signal and adds power to run various level and sizes of resistance and power headphones use

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as for brands. Lots out there, depends if you want a more analytical or warm sound

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Analytical is good for sending through a equalizer to make it warmer to your liking

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is who I use atm with Dolby atmos on the windows side for gaming directional sound

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I can tell you right now that the HEL will do both jobs easily as an all in one and can drive 600 ohm headphones to unreasonably loud levels. once you equalize it, really nice

tight pulsar
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hm

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ive seen a decent amount of recommendations for jds models like the element line or atom, any opinions on those?

wild sparrow
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I personally dont have any first hand experience. Z reviews on youtube might have dac/amp reviews. he does alot of audio stuff

tight pulsar
#

ic

wild sparrow
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if anything. hes got a wide variety of speaker and headphone reviews of all types

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@tight pulsar go to his videos. Hes got all sorts of amp reviews. just checked

brisk parcel
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^

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@wild sparrow got you @tight pulsar

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personally, of everything I've tried, I'm gonna go for a schiit modi and magni

west hornet
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To me magni and modi stack have a bit of a warmer sound than my motu m2 which interfaces goal is to have neutral sound, I prefer the schiit for general listening, and the motu when doing something in audio correction, sound design etc

tight pulsar
swift lantern
#

So out the box they arent very bassy buy with some Eq adjustment they are indeed quite nice

calm cobalt
#

should i go with a Kemove Snowfox or Glorious GMMK?

sharp kindle
#

@calm cobalt I main the GMMK White Ice and it is really good

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but if you wanna save some money then you can get the Snowfox

hoary salmon
#

Whats a good monitor recommendation for my friend Im giving her my pc with a 1080ti and i7700k she would like to keep it cheap

daring zenith
#

What price do you consider "cheap"?

hoary salmon
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Under 200$

daring zenith
#

Lemme check if g241 is in stock again

hoary salmon
#

I'm selling my pc to her for 380$

daring zenith
hoary salmon
#

I feel like I'm losing alot of money but I like helping out lol

#

Hows the QC?

daring zenith
#

Well, I haven't bought any, but it should be decent consider MSI is a large company and as I haven't heard about any major qc issues

hoary salmon
#

@daring zenith thanks for the help!

tight pulsar
#

u can also just rma it if theres an issue

daring zenith
#

(which is the advantage of a large company)

hollow pond
#

any nice white audiophile like headphones??

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something along these lines

#
karmic adder
#

Hello everyone. I'd appreciate any suggestions on a streaming cam. Budget is $100 or so

swift lantern
#

@hollow pond the Sennheiser hd 599s are ivory by default

hollow pond
#

gimmie @karmic bramble

karmic bramble
#

Haha no

swift lantern
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I wish I had a mic on an arm

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I feel like kind of an idiot for just getting a standing mic and I don't have a really good spot for it

karmic bramble
#

I sold a bunch of old computer parts to buy this gear. I think I dropped around $400 on my audio setup (not including speakers)

hollow pond
#

I wanna use an XLR setup but for cheap love_it

west hornet
#

on the cheap you can get something like a xm8500 mic with a uphoria um2 interface, or you can get something like a samson q2u and get a nice interface later as it has usb and xlr, but there isn't too much difference using the q2u with usb vs xlr besides upgradability, and the uphoria um2 mentioned earlier just has a bit of a high noise floor. so cheap can be done and is upgradable in the future, but whether it is worth it or not it up to you

calm cobalt
#

Is 2560x1440 worth it if its still high refresh rate

hollow pond
#

yes

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@calm cobalt its the best thing i've experienced

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i can't go back to 60hz

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like actually

calm cobalt
#

ok

heady spruce
#

can someone help me out with choosing a headset

sharp kindle
#

what are you looking for? @heady spruce

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a good mic

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or pure audiophile

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budget?

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gaming or not?

north nimbus
#

i'm gonna get this one keyboard

sharp kindle
#

what keyboard @north nimbus ?

north nimbus
#

just needed to get the link

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yeah i'm getting the pink one

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it's a good 60% though

neon quartzBOT
#
Grey#3002 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

north nimbus
#

i like 60%

sharp kindle
#

ooh

north nimbus
#

did i use a word

sharp kindle
#

that looks not bad

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apparently

north nimbus
#

i hate that

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it is so natural i do not perceive it

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i need to start throwing in the hecks again

sharp kindle
#

mixed reviews though

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some say it isn't good and some say that it is really good

north nimbus
#

everything has mixed reviews in the world of inexpensive keyboards

sharp kindle
#

yes true

north nimbus
#

it's likely the polarizing nature of the optical switches

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those are probably a whole new feel

sharp kindle
#

thats why i wouldn't reccomend most cheap keebs

north nimbus
#

this one i like

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i like it for many reasons

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i will take the risk

sharp kindle
#

with the exception of a few on millenial engineers that have genuine reviews by youtubers

north nimbus
#

sometimes you want an aesthetic

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i like how it says it has swappable switches but only within gateron optical

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so like

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you have 4 choices maybe

sharp kindle
#

look into the gk61

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it has hotswap also

north nimbus
#

is it $300 or $200

sharp kindle
#

but for cherry kailh and gats

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its relatively cheap i believe

north nimbus
#

also is it cute

sharp kindle
#

its cheaper i believe

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then your other one

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and i have personally owned it

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and its rlly good

north nimbus
#

that's got gateron opticals

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the gk61

sharp kindle
#

yes

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but you can swap for any cherry kailh and gat switch

north nimbus
#

wait what

sharp kindle
#

like most hotswap boards

north nimbus
#

doesn't it require switching to opticals

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because of different wiring

sharp kindle
#

i dont think so

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just look at the pins on the pcb

north nimbus
#

i am pretty sure they are different

sharp kindle
#

gaterons are cherry mx clones

north nimbus
#

gateron opticals are not

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they are like

sharp kindle
#

really?

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hm ok

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never knew that

north nimbus
#

they have optical sensors in every single switch

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they have probably an extra power lead

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to connect to the optical sensor

sharp kindle
#

yeah your rigght

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my bad

north nimbus
#

np

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you can still get browns

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delicious browns

sharp kindle
#

i believe this is cheaper than your other one

north nimbus
#

it is the same price

sharp kindle
#

and it has genuine youtube reviews

north nimbus
#

it isn't cute, but i can get razer keycaps to make it cute

sharp kindle
#

lol

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this is a lot less sketchy than the other one

north nimbus
#

yeah i've heard of the gk61

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i had forgotten about it

neon quartzBOT
#
Grey#3002 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

north nimbus
#

oh lmao no

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NO

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those curved keys are hecking bad

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i do not like them and think they can go to heck

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nvm i was looking at a different keyboarrd

#

i'm ridiculousu

sharp kindle
#

oh ok

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i thought there was something wrong when you said curved keys lmao

north nimbus
#

razer sells a pink PBT keycap set for like $30 yo

sharp kindle
#

yeah it does

north nimbus
#

it's nice too with nice looking text font

sharp kindle
#

if ur looking for aesthetic

north nimbus
#

i need aesthetic

sharp kindle
#

go with your other one

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if u want the pink

north nimbus
#

i do because i like cute stuff

sharp kindle
#

who doesn't?

north nimbus
#

well

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i know of a lot of guys who have hangups

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and dislike cute stuff

sharp kindle
#

i mean i do like anime

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soooooooooooooooooo

north nimbus
#

i also like anime but i like manga more probably

sharp kindle
#

manga is good

north nimbus
#

i read a lot of yuri/trans/queer manga because heck yes

sharp kindle
#

but my library doesnt have lots of manga

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and i hate reading ebooks

north nimbus
#

i don't read BL though because it has weird power dynamics

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and they're kinda gross

sharp kindle
#

yeah

#

i gtg

#

but if you get the pink one

#

tell me if its good or not

north nimbus
#

i will tell you how it is

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it looks so good with that font on the keycaps too

#

so i'm sold on it pretty much

sharp kindle
#

yeah

#

cya

celest canyon
#

@celest canyon
My wifi card is pci-e and thats it... No wires or power connectors, just plug into pci-e slot and thats it. No USB headers taken up.

Do you have a picture?
@wraith flint oh, hey. sorry for the delay. Can you give me your make / model of your wifi card? Is it also bluetooth?

wraith flint
#

@celest canyon I have a TP-Link WDN4800. And no, it is not BT 200Sad

celest canyon
#

while I'm here, maybe you all can help me. I have a storage array case that's just drive bays, no motherboard. I get the SAS channels via SFF-8088 cables from the case next to it. The drive arrays also have some bluetooth ports on them, but I'd need to get the bluetooth from the other system if I wanted to use them. The back of the case has something that seems to be most commonly referred to as a "centronics plate". Here, I have pictures.

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I don't have permission to attach files, so give me a sec.

tight pulsar
#

dm me the photos and ill send them

celest canyon
#

done

tight pulsar
celest canyon
#

I was hoping to get something that would fit in to one of those blank "centronics" ports and get a pci-e usb-c card to connect the two cases together

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I found some things that look like they might work, but there's nothing that will mount in those little brackets, I don't think.

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there's i/264787458209 on the eist of bays.

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also if i/392013567133 was mounted on a centronics plate, it would work. I would prefer to have two or three of them on a single plate if I could find something like that.

gray onyx
#

I'm trying to find a dedicated microphone and a headset that will work best with a future build. Anyone able to offer some insight?

amber oracle
#

@west hornet @brisk parcel if either or both of you could give Caleb a hand, it would be appreciated :)

tight pulsar
west hornet
#

@gray onyx budget? and do you prefer mic quality or headphone? open back or closed back?

gray onyx
#

@west hornet Sub 300 for both. Mic quality is significantly more important to me. Don't know enough about open vs closed to have an opinion.

west hornet
#

300 for each? or combined

gray onyx
#

Combined

hollow pond
#

ayo

#

i got a question

gray onyx
#

also willing to consider a headset+mic combo if you feel the quality in the mic is there.

west hornet
#

it a little hard to fit in something like xlr with cost of interface, but for standalone mic, you can probably get a elgato wave 1, along with maybe beyerdynamic dt 770 pro or dt 990 pro, main difference between them being the 770 is closed back and the 990 open back. you could also look at other options for headphones like the ath m40x or sennheiser hd58x. to me the wave 1 sounds like the best mic for it's price point, if backround noise is a issue than dynamic could be better option so maybe samson q1u and dt 770 pro. the beyerdynamics people say are a little bright in sound so if that bother you might want to look at the sennheisers

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i try to think, maybe xlr path you can fit in a focusrite scarlet solo + neat king bee for mic and ath m40x for headphone or other 100usd headphones

#

neat king bee does have fantastic sound, doesn't look the prettiest to some xD but sound is most important

#

sorry, lot of text 😛

mighty storm
#

I just wanna add that if you have tinnitus closed back isn't very great

west hornet
#

open back has very nice soundstage, only main disadvantage of open is people outside being able to hear and you hear others outside

#

but ye for mic sound quality and upgradability i'd go with king bee and ath, for usb the first one

mighty storm
#

yeah I just mean like closed back headphones though that really do block out all outside noise, it does amplify the effects of tinnitus a little bit

#

I was split between sennheiser gsp 500 and 600s and got the 600s because people said the closed back gave them more immersion. my last headset was open back and i didn't have any issues but with my 600s my tinnitus is a bit more prominent

#

not really an issue unless theres nothing playing from them at all, but if you care about that it's worth considering

gray onyx
#

@west hornet sorry had to get on the phone. Mind if I pm you shortly?

west hornet
#

@gray onyx that’s fine

swift lantern
#

I'm still concerned that if I do get the 6xx I won't be satisfied with the bass

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Or the "pressure" I guess

west hornet
#

I feel the 6xx is pretty even, not too much bass that it is muddy and not too little. Some people say they lack a bit in the sub bass, but I find the bass to be just plenty. Has a nice warm sound when connected to my schiit stack

celest canyon
#

@gray onyx - I like my Jabra Evolve 80 well enough that I got one for each of my kids. I use them pretty much all day for my work, and still use them on the weekends for gaming.

calm cobalt
#

Is the Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx good its an ips panel, 144hz, 1ms response time and its 2560x1440? for $420

honest cliff
calm cobalt
#

i clicked and it said sorry we couldnt find this item

honest cliff
hollow pond
#

anyone here an audiophile thats knows a fair amount of speakers and such?

#

i saw these and i liked them

#

someone on ebay is selling the speakers without the controller in the middle

#

was wondering i it'd still work without it and pairing it with the ones i have currently and possibly getting a second sub

#

and if not that then maybe just another pair of these with the sub

weary lodge
#

anyone who uses a 60% keyboard and thoughts compared to tenkeyless? looking at doing a first time mech build, and i'm thinking 60% to start, because i can put together an entry level one for about $80 all said and done

#

but i've never actually scaled down that far, i've used full size until a few months ago when i picked up a corsair tenkeyless

swift lantern
calm cobalt
#

hmm im gonna check it out

hasty vigil
#

im looking for a mechanical keyboard that has short keytravel i am very used to short key travel and i have not been able to get used to the long key travel of my redragon k552

amber oracle
#

@hollow pond i would not recommend that you try that.

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because the sub in those systems contains the amp

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and the amp is scaled to the satellites that come with the sub.

daring zenith
#

Linear switches might have easier actuation

tight pulsar
#

or just speed switches

#

linears still have the same actuation distance as tactile or clickies

hollow pond
#

Oh okay thanks @amber oracle

#

What about my other idea with getting a second pair of them?

#

Also does anyone know if this is a good audio interface?

#

It's local where I'm at and it sells for $80 brand new just looking for someone who has knowledge on this kind of stuff

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And someone's selling this for like $30 and it comes with everything so I think it's a good what do yall think?

amber oracle
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same problem/challenge really @hollow pond

hollow pond
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Oh okay

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You know any about what I just put in chat? @amber oracle

amber oracle
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which of the questions @hollow pond ?

hollow pond
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Both of them

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Do those look like good options or should I just buy brand new gear?

amber oracle
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i cannot see the first link

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as in, it does not open

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and iirc, Vault makes different models :)

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the mic could be quite nice

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but you will need a interface that uses XLR (or adapter at least)

hollow pond
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Yeah that's why I was thinking of getting that interface

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Lemme try and send it again

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@amber oracle found it on Amazon

amber oracle
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2sec

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aye, that seems decent enough @hollow pond

hollow pond
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Any interfaces that you'd recommend?

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@amber oracle

amber oracle
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for a beginner interface that is fine

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especially for the price you might be able to get it at

hollow pond
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Alright coollove_it

amber oracle
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best of luck :)

hollow pond
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Thx

spice coyote
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What is the cheapest best gaming mouse on the market

proper sphinx
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How cheap?

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The viper mini is 40

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Model o/o- for 50

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I think there’s some ajazz clone of the model o for 25

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Model d/d- for 50

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Even cheaper g203/102

tight pulsar
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@west hornet u around?

west hornet
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maybe

tight pulsar
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good enough

amber oracle
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hurp de derp!

tight pulsar
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trying to get a dac/amp and headphone set up for like 25-350, any suggestions?

amber oracle
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250-350?

tight pulsar
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yeah that

amber oracle
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or 25-350?

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ah :)

tight pulsar
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no $25 tops :v

west hornet
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25-350 lol

amber oracle
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the most funky of ranges

west hornet
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just for general listening?

tight pulsar
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yeah games and music

west hornet
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for dac/amp i am schiit fan love_it so maybe hel or magni modi stack. do you know if you want open or closed back headphone?

tight pulsar
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open back preferred but im not gonna die if its closed back

west hornet
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then maybe dt 990 pro or hd58x

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if you ever want xlr mic you could possibly get interface for dac/amp, they are more meant for critical listening tho

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i would always look at reviews of some of these headphones if you can't listen in person to get idea of what you might like 🙂

amber oracle
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880's?

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semi-opens

proper sphinx
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Any audiophile headset plus mic combo for under 100?

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Or should I go with a gaming headset

west hornet
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ye maybe 880s

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only headset i think of rn is pc37x at price

tight pulsar
arctic juniper
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Are wireless or wired headphones better? Or is it solely preference

static pond
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@arctic juniper preference

west hornet
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wired better, wireless has packetloss and wireless headphones require a amp and dac built in which drives up the cost, problem with wired is there is a cable

brisk parcel
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@proper sphinx the 37X are great if you can find them in stock

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aside from that, the cooler master MH751-752s are just a reskin of takstar pro 82s

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the Cloud alpha from hyperx are good too, but they're a bit more expensive than your budget

misty plinth
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Anyone have JLB Quantum 300’s

proper sphinx
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@brisk parcel are the gsp 300’s good?

brisk parcel
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they are, but tbh you can get better for your money

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i.e, the other 2 I mentioned, the cooler masters should be in stock

neon quartzBOT
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KingLachy22#6076 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

brisk parcel
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ooooooh

proper sphinx
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Right now the gsp 300’s are cheaper than the mh751’s

hushed mantle
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is the corsair void elite any good. plan on buying the logictech gpro X headset but i like having second options just in-case

gray onyx
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What's the best way to approach learning more about keyboards? So many switches, colors, ect.

tacit wing
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anyone here has one of those pre-built coiled cables from Matrix?

amber oracle
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just going to warn you @gray onyx its a black hole for money

gray onyx
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Seems like it. I've spent about 2 hours on the /r/ mechanical keyboards wiki it's crazy

amber oracle
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@tight pulsar you around? and up for some keyboard talk?

west hornet
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anything can be a black hole if you put your mind to it

amber oracle
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@west hornet it IS nachos that can ramble on and on about keyboards right?

west hornet
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yes nacho boy

amber oracle
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good :)

stable axle
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Whats a good 24" 144hz monitor under $200

mellow leaf
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You can find some on Newegg and amazon

robust geode
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does anyone know some good cheaper priced keyboard and mouse?

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im going to bed now so if someone has something for me ping me so i remember to come and look

weary lodge
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anyone have any experience with the cheap GK61 mech keyboard kits? i'm thinking of doing a first time build with maybe some gateron reds and whatever keycap set strikes my fancy, but i'm just curious if anyone has worked with that particular board before

amber oracle
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nope, that that board, i have gateron reds here in a ergodox

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but that is all i can throw in the ring on this one.

weary lodge
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how do you like the reds? i have cherry reds in my corsair, and i like the feel of them. from what i was reading, it's the same actuation on the gaterons

amber oracle
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hmm, smoother "feel"

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lighter feel to the spring iirc

weary lodge
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ahh ok

amber oracle
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i would have to check my notes thou

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because i cannot remember if this particular ergodox is the one with mixed springs and switches

weary lodge
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the kit itself is cheap enough that i might just pull the trigger anyway, it's $50 plus shipping via banggood or $65 w/prime shipping via amazon, plus a mess of switches for $15 and a set of keycaps for another $20 or so

amber oracle
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yeah, that is (in this context) nothing

weary lodge
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the software is supposedly a nightmare, but if i can get some basic lighting control through it, that's a minor headache

amber oracle
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:D

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best of luck

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i will be eating popcorn on the side while you curse

weary lodge
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it's just clunky and if you get the wrong version, it's not in english heh

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but my understanding is that it lets you not only control lighting, but set the multiple custom layouts that you can flip through via function key combos

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i like my corsair, but it's fixed to blue LED's, so if i can have the experience of building my own keyboard and get full customizable RGB on top of it, i think it's worth it

wild grail
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Hello! quick question for you guys if you know cuz I haven't been able to get a solid answer anywhere. If I wanted to return a open box keyboard would i get the full refund or have a 15% restocking fee? or not receive one at all? or is there someone in newegg staff i can ask?

weary lodge
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you can DM @fallow glacier and they'll get back to you during business hours

wild grail
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thanks!

swift lantern
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can earbuds have incredibly good bass or is there a technical limitation

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like is over-ear just gonna be better in that department

amber oracle
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iem's can have stupid good sound

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but it normally circles back to the "pressure" problem

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as in, people "expect" a specific feeling on/in their ears

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if that is not there? you could be vibrating them around with bass and they would still tell you that there is not enough bass

tight pulsar
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@amber oracle im here now :v

gray onyx
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lol I just wokeup, what timing.

tight pulsar
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https://keyboard.university/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hlf0ql/a_complete_beginner_guide_to_the_world_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf are both good starting places, geekhack.org has a bunch of people and info, and larger discords like taeha types’s and kbdfans’s have a bunch of people and info, and taekeyboards has a pretty good tutorial

amber oracle
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just like a wizard @tight pulsar you show up when you are supposed to

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but that also means we can feed you to the Balrog

tight pulsar
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:(

amber oracle
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hey, you get swanky clothes after it happens

tight pulsar
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u should be fed to the balrog for using an ergo board smhmyhead

amber oracle
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considering how much i type? heck no.

tight pulsar
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they look weird tho

amber oracle
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that they do

gray onyx
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@amber oracle Was talking to a B&H audio rep. He mentioned that KVM switches do not affect audio quality?

amber oracle
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depends on the kvm switch

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that is not a question, as in, i can go to one of my clients and grab a kvm switch that i know doesnt affect it

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i can also leave a sizeable amount of money to check it out of the storage facility

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but yes, you can go "around" a kvm

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then yes, it obviously wont affect anything.

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however, as the situation was when we talked about a kvm, there that would have resulted in an extra wire

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which would have worked counter to what you wanted to obtain with the kvm

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does that make sense?

gray onyx
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Yes

amber oracle
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not saying there isnt a kvm switch that can solve it, or that there is one i dont know about (there are hundreds of them that i dont know about)

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but from my understanding of how they work. what i said above and previously is the case

gray onyx
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Having a hard time deciding on a USB microphone/arm or like a modmic setup for some HD 6xx that I am trying to source. Main appeal for me with the standalone microphone is the higher sound quality, arm flexibility, and not having to charge it. Would love some advice.

weary lodge
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bought all the stuff to build my GK61, will probably be here in 2 ish weeks.

swift lantern
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Well idk I think the perceived pressure might be all that matters then

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Because straight up my cheap headset sounds better when hooked up to an amp than the T2's do and I'm disappointed

gray onyx
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@tight pulsar while it was very interesting to learn about board components it seems like both links have to do more with building a keyboard. While I'm certainly interested in doing that someday I'm hoping to find more information on purchasing a ready to go board.

tight pulsar
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yeah a lot of guides are more that, id just look up the part u wanna learn about like “switch guide” or smth

tawdry breach
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i have the durgod fusion coming soon

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with speed silvers

paper venture
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thoughts on the glorious model o?

amber oracle
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ugly as sin

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and a bacteria bomb just waiting to happen

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i do not want to think about how disgusting those cutouts are going to be after just a months use

sharp kindle
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i have a model o and ive used it for a long time

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its really solid if you want a light mouse with rgb

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and the opinion on looks are different person to person @paper venture

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the cable is amazing

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the feet are also amazing

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and the scroll wheel feels great

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it won't get dirty if you treat it normally

amber oracle
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you got a claw grip @sharp kindle ?

sharp kindle
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a fingertip grip

paper venture
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i just palm it :/

amber oracle
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well, that is claw :)

sharp kindle
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i used to claw

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they are kinda different

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but yeah

paper venture
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but model worth the price?

amber oracle
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you dont "rest" on it in either is my point :)

paper venture
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o

sharp kindle
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yes its great for the price

paper venture
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got it

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thx 🙂

sharp kindle
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if you want a claw grip mouse get the model d

daring zenith
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I'm fingertip grip :D

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I think claw has you like arching your fingers to the point of using your fingernails, and fingertip is more smooth using the tip of your finger

sharp kindle
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i switch between the model d and o and the logitech g503

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not really

tawdry breach
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viper mini vs g203

sharp kindle
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personally i dont like razer

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so g203

copper adder
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not entirely sure if this is the right channel, but has anyone gotten a monitor-mounted desk lamp before? if so, are there any dece brands to look at?

gray onyx
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@tight pulsar So I know I want a 65%, MX Cherry Blue, PBT keycaps. I don't understand keycap profiles or production methods of the keycaps. With that information do you have any suggestions on how to find boards of that specific style?

tight pulsar
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theres a decent amount of keyboards on mechanicalkeyboards.com that fit that, easiest way to find options would be to google 65% keyboards (most should have pbt caps and/or cherry mx blue options)

gray onyx
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I'd love to find a 65% with this type of aesthetic

tight pulsar
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varmilo va68 and leopold fc660m are my recommendations, both with all the things you wanted and 160 and 110 prices

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get rid of the http and send the link

gray onyx
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the discord you recommended also said the leopold was a good buy

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iqunix.store/products/f96-coral-sea-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=30308777001020

tight pulsar
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leopold makes pretty good boards, a lot of people like them

gray onyx
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they also said durgod hades 68 with something called jades is a good buy

tight pulsar
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and for keycap stuff, basically the profile is the shape of the keycap (look up keycap profile chart) and for production method look for doubleshot or dyesub (legends dont wear basically at all)