#peripherals-and-displays

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civic fossil
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they have a mic on them

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not a good one

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but it’s there

split nimbus
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Wait are they seriously 1000?

west hornet
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they do have mic

civic fossil
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Wait are they seriously 1000?
@split nimbus no lol

split nimbus
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Oh good

west hornet
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there are the koss ksc75 which seem ok for the price, doesn't include mic tho

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~14usd

split nimbus
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I'll see if they have a similar model with a mic

civic fossil
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why not use your current headset, assuming you have one

split nimbus
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basically it's falling apart

civic fossil
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ah

split nimbus
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It's a 8 year old $5 amazon basic or whatever

civic fossil
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well you could just buy a good headset for long-term use

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but it’s up to you so

split nimbus
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I would be totally fine spending above 20 for a good quality build that would last

civic fossil
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razer and steelseries i would look into

west hornet
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sennheiser

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beyerdynamic, audio technica, etc.

civic fossil
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apparently razer made a headset that shakes according to bass input from the game or video you watch

split nimbus
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Yeah, I don't need that

civic fossil
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beyerdynamic, audio technica, etc.
@west hornet audiotechnica sell headsets with mics?

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Yeah, I don't need that
@split nimbus yeah just an example of a really good quality pair

west hornet
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i've seen a few, i think they have a pretty good wireless headset around 200 tho

civic fossil
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hm ok

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the more you know

split nimbus
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I'm looking more for build quality, not sound quality

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Basically anything with a decent mic that won't break after one year

west hornet
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probably something with changeable earpads that don't cost a fortune

split nimbus
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Yeah, the "earpads" are what are giving out on these things

west hornet
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idk too many details but some heaphones like the hd6xx's i use or beyerdynamic dt 770 have replacement ear pads for when they wear out

split nimbus
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TIL kensington makes headsets

white talon
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My Sennheiser hd6xx come in today

white talon
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Also might get these in a couple of weeks

white talon
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Needing opinions and recommendations I am looking at the magni 3+ for a solid state amp. $100-300 is my price range what do you recommend

latent gorge
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ducky mecha mini or anne pro 2

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?

devout fiber
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Don’t know if this is the right place to ask but, I’m assuming my stream looks bad when I’m streaming because I’m using WiFi and not wired. Im nowhere near any Ethernet ports in my house, so is there any Inexpensive and simple way to get more stable/better internet?

white talon
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Nope sadly not. Gotta do Ethernet my guy

devout fiber
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I’ve heard of powerline adapters, but haven’t really looked into them

white talon
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Just get a long Ethernet cable and find a way to get it to the router

devout fiber
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Dude my nearest ethernet port is downstairs and then some

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That’d require like a 100 foot or longer cable

brisk parcel
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@devout fiber are you able to drill holes and such?

devout fiber
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Nope

brisk parcel
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a cable is relatively cheap, but getting it from your router to your PC is a different story

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and ah ok

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powerline adapters can work yeah

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I haven't used them myself but I think they would be perfect for your use case, I would do some more research

devout fiber
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Okay I gotta look into it too then

inner iron
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Which Ethernet cable is good for in wall

split nimbus
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cat 5e

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If you have _really reeeaaaaaaly good internet, cat 6

west hornet
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cat 6 may be a bit more future proof

calm cobalt
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whats a better headset, Razer Naris or a steel series 5

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the steel series on amazon.ca wont be in stock till August 20th thou

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but it is 50 bucks less

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is this keyboard good?

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^^@split nimbus sry for the ping but is this keyboard good

split nimbus
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Dunno. I don't know keyboards

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It's a cherry, so it's probably good

devout fiber
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seems very pricey for an 80%

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oh it's wireless Cringe

split nimbus
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Oh

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Yeah

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That's bad

calm cobalt
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it can connect wired thou

prisma niche
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@calm cobalt I like the razer nari can’t speak to the steelseries one tho

calm cobalt
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ok

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thanks for feedback

prisma niche
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Also I prefer wired keyboard as there really isn’t a point to spending extra on wireless if you don’t move the keyboard around - mouse I can understand

calm cobalt
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the keyboard has a wired part too

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so you can connect it wired or wireless

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and most other cherry mx red keyboards cost for in Canada

prisma niche
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Even if it does have a wired part I wouldn’t spend the extra money on a wireless

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But if you really like that one I’d go for it 👍

calm cobalt
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ik

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but the only problem here in Canada is that all Cherry Mx Reds And Browns cost a lot

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like either in USD

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or like 150 above

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sry 175 above

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this is one of the best I found

prisma niche
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Ahhh gotcha

calm cobalt
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yea if this was the US

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i would have FOR SURE gotten a another heyboard

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but thanks for the feedback

prisma niche
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For sure

queen wadi
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arctis 5 is pretty good for the price. idk about the nari though

white talon
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My hd6xx came in!!

prisma niche
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Niceeee

white talon
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I'll be taking pictures when I get home

lone lodge
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hey im new here and i’m just wondering what a solid 60% keyboard is

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also possibly a good mouse too

west hornet
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ugly pics NYEHE

tight pulsar
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that ducky with hyperx switches is good and the new razer is decent

untold acorn
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Varmilos are solid as wel

tight pulsar
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yea idk if them or leopold make 60’s, I know they make 68 key ones

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😔 the smallest they both make are 68 key

white talon
west hornet
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just curious, what difference would you say you hear between the 2

white talon
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Dt990 lower end and treble is more focused. Hd6xx wider sound stage so less bass still is present but better highs and mids. And the separation is better

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Dt990 fun headphones vs more focused headphones

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But they both aren't bad headphones they serve different purposes.

jovial scaffold
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I've heard the gk61 is good aswell

subtle pewter
tight pulsar
prisma niche
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Rip

grim aurora
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as adverse as I was to paying over 100 bucks for a headset, the virtuoso corsair set is kind of nice, don't really regret it

jovial scaffold
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You were gonna pay 4k? @tight pulsar

tight pulsar
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nah I’d love to own one of those too expensive for me

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but I have some friends who are making a clone of it and making a few boards so imma get one of them

untold acorn
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What makes it worth that much?

tight pulsar
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basically theyre super rare (they made like 100 total), like 10 years old, good quality

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like cars people pay big money for stuff

untold acorn
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Ooh alr, wasn't sure what made the price so high

calm cobalt
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yea

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same

tight pulsar
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ya otd boards are like ferrari's of cars, super expensive, old, and its an original korean custom so its even more $$$

untold acorn
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I was looking at the keycaps but none of them look interesting

sly axle
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can someone help?

devout fiber
split nimbus
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Yam Yam Yam

sly axle
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my r key isnt regestiring

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its a pain in the ass

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i have to slam my finger on the r key

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nvm i fixed it

devout fiber
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Lol

sly axle
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now the iiii key wants to act up

devout fiber
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Let me guess... membrane keyboard?

solar shoal
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Did you by chance spill anything on it?

civic fossil
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iiiiii

silver scaffold
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my mouse is a cheap one with a dpi button, but it doesnt state the dpui values? anyway to check?

full kelp
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download software

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or check manufacturer website

calm cobalt
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Ate Corsair peripherals good?

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Are*

fair gate
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like everything it depends on the model

tight pulsar
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their keyboards suck

daring zenith
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wdym

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k70 good

tight pulsar
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no their stabs suck and their spacebar looks like a tire

daring zenith
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your mouse wheel looks like a tire

tight pulsar
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and they dont even use a standard bottom row even razer does now

sweet ore
daring zenith
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Yes

tight pulsar
jovial scaffold
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Lmao

strong latch
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Any good sub-$200 144hz 1ms monitors out there?

west hornet
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msi g241 @strong latch

sweet ore
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I really do like the feel of that Rosewill keyboard. It's so much nicer than the keys on this laptop keyboard. (Though the new keyboard is put away until I build my new PC.)

burnt thicket
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anyone have some good $50-$60 keyboard mouse combos

turbid sentinel
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Guys, any idea why my spacebar gets stuck on one side when i press it not in the middle. I have the hyperx alloy elite

prisma niche
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Did you spill something or anything like that?

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If not try taking it off and taking a picture and posting it here

thorny aspen
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any good webcams under 60?

west hornet
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phone

thorny aspen
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huh ill try it

full kelp
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yea droidcam is great

devout fiber
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IVCAM gang

snow swift
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Logitech c920 works well for me, Although it is about 70 and out of stock everywhere right now

lone lodge
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anyone know of a good keyboard and also mouse?

jovial scaffold
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G502, G pro wireless, and glorious model O are my usual recommendations

steep stirrup
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Need a reccomendations for a good surround sound headphone

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I also got the k95 Corsair keyboard with macro keys and a kain 120 mouse

little crater
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Lol

untold acorn
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Sold out lmao

tight pulsar
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ya anyway novelkeys has them back in stock if u need any

untold acorn
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Kacakaca

tight pulsar
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aliexpress is the best

untold acorn
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Post it in the mechkeys discord

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Watch how offended they get

torn onyx
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What’s a good headset for $200 aud and down

calm cobalt
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@torn onyx Logitech g pro x

potent mist
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Pepper

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Eat

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N

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I

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S

tight pulsar
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:/

snow swift
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😋

west hornet
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@torn onyx ath m50x, dt770/990 pro, sennheiser hd58x with a modmic

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Ahh I didn’t see aud

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Maybe pc37x

sly axle
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hey can someone help me out here?

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my r key isnt registering

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im just copying and pasting the letter r when i need to

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it legit sucks ass

jovial scaffold
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Membrane keyboard?

sly axle
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no

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ducky one 2 mini with browns 💩

jovial scaffold
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Hmm

sly axle
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i cleaned my keycaps before

jovial scaffold
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Might have to solder a new switch on there then

sly axle
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before bruh

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how

daring zenith
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lol

sly axle
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i might as well get a new keyboard

jovial scaffold
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Lol

daring zenith
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clean the switch

sly axle
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how

daring zenith
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get some isopropyl alcohol and wipe it down I guess

sly axle
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are you serious

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should i contact them and ask for a new keyboard

daring zenith
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maybe

sly axle
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so what should i do

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i sucked my switch and its working now.

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Im dead serious

daring zenith
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smth prob got on the contact

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dust or smth

sly axle
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now its not working

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DAMNIT

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soo?

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could using a blow dryer to dust my keyboard be a reason?

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@daring zenith

daring zenith
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possibly

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might be too hot

sly axle
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how do i check if my keyboard is hot swappable with switches?

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@daring zenith

daring zenith
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if it's not a advertised feature, it prob doesn't support it

untold acorn
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@sly axle duckies arent hot swappable

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Either u can de-solder and put a new switch or contact to see if u can get it replaced

tight pulsar
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use an air compressor/anything that blows air if u need to get rid of dust

latent gorge
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I'm getting a ducky mecha mini, should I get mx browns or mx reds?

jovial scaffold
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Thats all preference

latent gorge
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Ik its preference, and I was looking into browns, but some ppl say mx browns are not good

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although most youtubers and reviewers get browns

jovial scaffold
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Browns are some of the most loved key switches around

latent gorge
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yeah that's what I heard, but some reviewers said that mx browns are not great compared to gaterons

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I can't get gaterons on ducky tho

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ppl said they were too sticky and not really tactile compared to the gaterons

jovial scaffold
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Eh, mx is kinda the standard. Idk much about gaterons tbh

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If you really wanted to feel the difference you could get a key switch tester

latent gorge
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alright, do you recommend any specific keycaps?

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nah I'll just research more and get one

jovial scaffold
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I like doubleshot pbt but I've only ever bought them from hyperx

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Can't really recommend something else that I don't have experience with

latent gorge
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yeah I was thinking about getting the pudding keycaps from hyperx

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they look rlly good with the ducky keyboards

jovial scaffold
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Look nice and feel nice

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But i would get the board first and test it for a week or so before getting keycaps

latent gorge
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ok thank you!

jovial scaffold
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Np

tight pulsar
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mx browns suck gaterons are far superior on basically all of the mx lineup

untold acorn
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Browns are like a good mix of all the switches

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^

tight pulsar
hollow pond
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And rgb

thorn dock
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is it for gaming?

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i assume not

hollow pond
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Ya

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It is why

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That's why it has

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rgb

sharp jackal
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I've been considering upgrading my keyboard but wasn't sure between the razer huntsman or blackwidow

tight pulsar
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huntsman te all the way if ur getting a razer board

sharp jackal
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I've definitely been leaning towards it, right now I have a 2014 blackwidow ultimate

hollow pond
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Just build your own Chef_Kiss Chef_Kiss

wet otter
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should I get the logitech g pro x or the hyperx cloud alpha s

calm cobalt
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@wet otter Logitech

wet otter
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any reason why?

tight pulsar
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anybody know any cheap 3x2 macropads qmk preferred

calm cobalt
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@wet otter really good audio quality, build quality and is quite comfortable

hazy fiber
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If you want good audio quality, I would get an audiophile or consumer set. You pay a ton for the gaming name.

potent condor
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@here I just got the razer cynosa but the cynosa v2 just came out. Should I return the cynosa and get the v2?

calm cobalt
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@potent condor I would keep the original, the v2 is kinda a downgrade. The media keys are cheap and it's cheaper materisls

sly axle
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why cant i change dpi

devout fiber
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Is the DPI button on the mouse itself?

sly axle
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no

devout fiber
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Have you tried clicking the settings button in top right

sly axle
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usually there will be a dpi button on the softwaree

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not there..

devout fiber
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But it could be there

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Never used Logitech mouse tho so I’m just guessing tbh :P

daring zenith
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lemme check my g hub

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I wonder if it's something about the "pre profile configuration" on yours @sly axle

sly axle
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im so confused

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what should i do

daring zenith
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look around

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restart g hub

sly axle
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im gonna re install

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bro

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can u tell me what to do

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@daring zenith

daring zenith
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okay try going into settings

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and my gear

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click your mouse

sly axle
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done

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.....

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@daring zenith

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i dont see any of that

night vessel
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Is there a gaming mouse for under 70 that has a thumb, and ring finger rest

sly axle
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g502

night vessel
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Wut brand? Logitech?

sly axle
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yeea

night vessel
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It doesn’t have a ring finger extended thing tho

sly axle
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ok

daring zenith
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ring finger what

sly axle
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@daring zenith

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How bro

daring zenith
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anyways thats weird

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I wonder if you have to use the other software

night vessel
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@daring zenith rest

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Like the thumb rest is great

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But I also want that on the ring finger side

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But mouse no exist

daring zenith
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Logitech Gaming Software

night vessel
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Wut?

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Wut u on abt

daring zenith
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not talking to you

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@sly axle try LGS

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maybe g hub doesn't work with g502

night vessel
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oh

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Anyone know of anything like this

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Nvm can’t send photo

west hornet
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what were you looking for

echo sonnet
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can any one help me with peripherals

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300$ for monitor mouse keyboard

hollow pond
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@echo sonnet mechanical or nah?

ashen mantle
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Does anyone have a steel series apex 7 that they can give me an opinion on. Im looking to buy one but there aren't very many reviews on it.

night vessel
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Best 144hz 27 monitor

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For around 250

calm cobalt
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okay so i'm thinking of replacing my mechanical keyboard switches

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currently i have outemu blues but theyre just so so loud

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however now i'm on the verge between getting browns or reds

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what is typing like on reds?

hollow pond
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@night vessel go to display channel

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i can answer ur question there

tight pulsar
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reds are linear so yea theyre linear

night vessel
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Kk

golden bone
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Can I get a good xlr or usb mic for around 80ish dollars usd?

west hornet
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samson q2u best budget mic imo near that price. works with both xlr and usb, if you went a little more i'd say the elgato wave 1 usb mic

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@golden bone

violet glen
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samson q2u or elgato wave 1 or yeti nano? @west hornet

west hornet
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yeti nano isn't bad but for the price i'd spend a bit more on a wave

violet glen
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purely for sound quality which is best

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currently i see the q2u for 60, nano for 50, and wave 1 for 100+

west hornet
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both very similar but i prefer the wave a bit more

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the nano is 100

violet glen
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someone in my area is selling one for 50

west hornet
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well used you can get cheaper ya

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timestamp 10:07

violet glen
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ty

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I think I might still go with the nano just bc of the price

west hornet
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if it's not damaged and stills works good than 50 ain't a bad price

violet glen
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good condition

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they say they wanted to start streaming and could never find time to get into it

west hornet
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you can always try to ask them to send sample recordings if it's not too much for them to be sure

violet glen
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true

calm cobalt
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Can someone help me find out wether my keyboard switches can be switched

daring zenith
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what keyboard is it

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its a 95% no

calm cobalt
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Gk61 gateron browns

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I saw something about if my switches don’t have like 2 or 3 pins or something like that at the bottom of it , I can’t switch them , but my switches don’t have any pins at the bottom of them

daring zenith
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gateron switches don't look like they have pins on the bottom

calm cobalt
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Yea but I looked up a picture of the gateron optical yellows and they have two pins at the bottom

daring zenith
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I'm looking at browns

tight pulsar
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optical and normal are different

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its hotswap and should support any mx switches, the pcb is 3 pin but you can just chop of the plastic part of 5 pins

calm cobalt
tight pulsar
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can u flip it over?

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cause idk if optical browns exist

calm cobalt
west hornet
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blurr

calm cobalt
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My lights are off

tight pulsar
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those are optical

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if u wanna swap them this is where u can buy them https://www.epathbuy.com/product/gateron-optical-switches/

Custom mechanical keyboards shop online store, group buy

Gateron Optical Switches: red, blue, black ,brown, yellow and silver optional   The specs for these Gateron optical switches: Gateron silver optical switch: bottom out distances: 3.20+0/-0.3mm actuation distance: 1.0±0.1mm Operating force: 45±15gf End force: < 110gf Gateron bl...

calm cobalt
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K ty

latent gorge
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Hey guys I ordered a ducky mecha mini with mx browns

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I was wonderinng if this was a good purchase or if I should have gotten a gmmk or anne pro 2

haughty wren
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What’s the best quieter mechanical keyboard that still has a good resistance?

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I hate the loud clicking sounds when people type it hurts my ears lol

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Any suggestions?

latent gorge
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Quieter switches?

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Depends on preference but linear and tactile switches should be quieter

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@haughty wren

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For example mx browns are tactile and reds are linear

haughty wren
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Hm... I don’t know much abt key boards.

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Or switches

daring zenith
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Tactile click makes sound

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bottoming out makes sound

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which one do you want to minimize?

haughty wren
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I don’t want it terribly loud but I want the click

latent gorge
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I think he has blues rn

daring zenith
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then cherry browns or gateron browns

latent gorge
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Yeah then browns would be the way to go

daring zenith
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other companies I'm not so sure about

haughty wren
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What key board would be a good pick for this? I use a wireless Logitech 20 dollar mouse and keyboard rn...

daring zenith
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what is the budget

tight pulsar
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if u get cherry browns i will break ur keyboard

daring zenith
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there's the 1000$ keyboards, the 100$ keyboards, and the 50$ keyboards

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different price ranges

haughty wren
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I don’t want anything to far over 100 bucks

daring zenith
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@tight pulsar I'm getting cherry browns and you can't do anything about it

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it sounds better than gateron browns

latent gorge
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Ehh I just ordered a ducky mecha mini with mx browns for about $120

daring zenith
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idc if gateron browns have a bigger tactile click

tight pulsar
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ur on drugs then

daring zenith
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they don't sound as good

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cherry browns make a nice crisp sound

latent gorge
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Ya mx browns> gateron

daring zenith
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Gateron browns supposedly feel better tho

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I like the sound of cherry browns better tho

tight pulsar
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mx browns are just dirty reds

latent gorge
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That’s what I’ve heard too

tight pulsar
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sound isnt everything

daring zenith
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it is for me now

latent gorge
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Mx browns are apparently “sticky”

untold acorn
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Gateron browns feel better than mx

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imo

tight pulsar
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people dont like cherry browns because they have literally no tactile bump

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which is why you buy tactiles in the first place

untold acorn
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Anne Pro 2 gang

tight pulsar
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thats why theyre called dirty reds cause they just feel like scratchy linears

latent gorge
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I just got a mecha mini with mx browns

daring zenith
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I'll prob have to get a keytester to tell for sure but I'm pretty sure I'll like cherry browns

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the sound matters more to me than the tactile click :P

untold acorn
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I was gonna get blues but i love my family too much

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lmao

daring zenith
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I honestly can barely feel the click on these blues when I type

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doesn't matter as much

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I like the sound

tight pulsar
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im getting everglides cause im smart kek

latent gorge
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Ducky > Anne Pro 2

untold acorn
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Well the Anne Pro 2 is in stock more often

latent gorge
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Tru their both nice

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Wish they were hot swappable tho

untold acorn
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and it comes to what u prefer too

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Wireless or adjustible height

latent gorge
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I don’t really like the plastic on the anne pro 2 either

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Mecha mini is full metal

tight pulsar
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it has actually good switches

daring zenith
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preorder eh

untold acorn
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I wanted the skyline

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but theyre always sold out

daring zenith
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I'm prob still gonna get a gmmk tkl one

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fite me

tight pulsar
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🤷‍♂️ its the price of gateron yellows in a retail board u gotta wait

latent gorge
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Its nice but compared to the mecha mini the one 2 mini isn’t worth it

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Unless u really need the arrow keys

daring zenith
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arrow keys op tho

untold acorn
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^

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Skyline is one of my fav keyboards

tight pulsar
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60% best %

latent gorge
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Should I cancel my mecha mini and get a gmmk

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Rlly can’t decide

untold acorn
#

Mecha mini is just meh imo

daring zenith
#

tkl% best %

tight pulsar
#

gmmk rly just has hotswap going for it also the usb connector sucks

untold acorn
#

65% is the best imo

daring zenith
#

ye

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is ok

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I like tkl better

latent gorge
#

Is hotswap worth it

untold acorn
#

Depends

latent gorge
#

Like as a feature

daring zenith
#

I want it

tight pulsar
#

not really

daring zenith
#

so eh

tight pulsar
#

its one of those features that sounds great but 99% of people will never use it

latent gorge
#

Yea

tight pulsar
#

main thing benefit is for modding them

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u dont have to desolder to lube or anything

untold acorn
#

^

west hornet
#

too much keyboard talk here smhmyhead

tight pulsar
#

go back to headphone land

daring zenith
#

not enough keybord talk

west hornet
untold acorn
#

for most people its not actualy a useful feature

daring zenith
#

less head phone talk

west hornet
#

this chat ain't big enough for the both of us

tight pulsar
#

also hotswap is easier to break

daring zenith
#

I'm one to change my mind often so

west hornet
daring zenith
#

indeed it is

latent gorge
#

I was gonna get the new novelkeys keyboard

daring zenith
#

but I want moar options

latent gorge
#

But I can’t wait that long

tight pulsar
#

nk65 is pretty nice if u can grab it

daring zenith
#

but tkl

tight pulsar
#

but the whole thing was a mess

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too overhyped

untold acorn
#

my desk to small for tkl or full size

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😢

latent gorge
#

Honestly I’m fine with anything. Anything is better than my corsair membrane

untold acorn
#

I had a random dell keyboard

latent gorge
#

Same

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Then I got this corsair thinking it was rlly nice

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Paid $50 same as the price for a gk61

untold acorn
#

That was my old keyboard

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Lasted a lifetime

tight pulsar
#

lol ps2

untold acorn
#

i told u it was old lmao

tight pulsar
#

lmao wtf does this mean Polished holes for smooth keyboarding

untold acorn
#

Funny thing is it doesnt sound too bad

latent gorge
#

SMOOTH KEYBOARDING GUYS

tight pulsar
#

like i could get the smooth keyboarding but what do holes have anything to do with it

latent gorge
#

Polished or lubed lmao

untold acorn
#

Very Tactile feel

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Kinda takes a bit for the keys to get pressed

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tho

tight pulsar
#

😔 nobody here uses a topre keyboard i wanna know how nice they are

untold acorn
#

ask mechkeys

tight pulsar
#

yea but that requires more effort

untold acorn
#

lmao

tight pulsar
#

also they'd be like it feels like topre duh nerd

untold acorn
#

They always criticize anyway

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I would ask for u but idk what the channels are

tight pulsar
#

hm wait actually i have to yell ask a vender there how long it takes to ship springs cause its been 17 days

untold acorn
#

all i look at is vendor announcements and show and tell lmao

tight pulsar
#

stupid canada

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hm it should be here soon

slow depot
#

hey should i save up for a 2060 super or buy a webcam for my stream, i have a 1660 btw

west hornet
#

1660 is still decent, I’d wait to see if new cards come out, could be better for money or lower cost of 2000 series cards on used market

slow depot
#

i guess

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thx for helping

west hornet
#

Webcam, the cheapest thing you can do is use phone, phone cameras are decent at webcam

hollow pond
slow depot
#

i was just wondering cause recently all of my streams have been a little laggy and i was wondering if it was a gpu problem cause idk how good a 1660 is

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and because it is a question based on a peripherals

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and cause i can

west hornet
#

You use nvenc encoder right?

slow depot
#

?

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whats that

hollow pond
#

and 2000series cards arent going down in price

west hornet
#

A video encoder for streaming and recording built into nvidia cards

hollow pond
#

^^

slow depot
#

oh ok do i have to download it

west hornet
#

For single pc streaming you must use nvenc, it is the best way to stream

slow depot
#

or is it already running

#

ok

west hornet
#

In OBS settings look under stream and encoder

slow depot
#

ok

west hornet
#

Default is x264 software you want hardware nvenc new

slow depot
#

ok thx

hollow pond
#

1660s>>

haughty wren
#

and 2000series cards arent going down in price
@hollow pond wdym?

tight pulsar
#

how many sales have u seen on 2000 cards

haughty wren
#

i dont even see prices anymore lol

hollow pond
#

it was conrfirmed that they're going to dry u stock on purpose to put out the 3000series

#

and when stock dries up

#

prices go up

brisk parcel
#

^

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this

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unfortunately

grizzled flint
#

Only tech that really gets cheaper anymore are really old cpu's

terse wolf
#

Hey does anyone have a DK63?

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keyboard

calm cobalt
#

no

calm cobalt
#

Any good 60% mechanical keyboards?

#

Preferably under $100

untold acorn
#

Ducky one 2 or Anne Pro 2

calm cobalt
#

Ok I'll look em up now

#

Thanks

north ridge
#

i recommend the ducky

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it’s what i’ll be buying same with glorious O mouse

calm cobalt
#

How much is the mouse?

untold acorn
#

Ducky isnt always in stock tho

calm cobalt
#

Yea I've heard it gets sold out quickly

untold acorn
#

Anne Pro 2 is pretty much the same thing

calm cobalt
#

What switches are theh?

#

They*

untold acorn
#

Anne Pro 2 has Gaterons and Kahil

#

U could pay more for mx but just go with the gaterons

#

what switch do u want?

#

or u can check out the new razer

north ridge
#

it’s down 50$ compared to newegg

calm cobalt
#

I was thinking either cherry mx red, blue,or brown

#

I'm not sure if they're available

north ridge
#

red

untold acorn
#

brown

north ridge
#

RED

untold acorn
#

Anne Pro 2 has gateron browns which are pretty good

north ridge
#

it’s all preference

untold acorn
#

and the huntsman has red equivalents i think

#

Red switches are meh

calm cobalt
#

So are brown switches my best bet?

untold acorn
#

Check out the huntsman 60%, anne pro 2, or the ducky and see which ones u like

calm cobalt
#

Ok bet

untold acorn
#

Id recommend the anne pro 2

calm cobalt
#

Isn't the huntsman a lil bit more expensive?

#

And ok

untold acorn
#

Maybe im not sure

#

anne pro 2 has gaterons, browns which are good

#

hunstman has like blue and reds i think

calm cobalt
#

I see

tight pulsar
#

huntsman is 120

untold acorn
#

Anne Pro 2 is 90-100

#

Ducky is 98 if u get it retail

calm cobalt
#

Ye the huntsman a lil bit more expensive

#

I'm thinking the ducky if I can find it in stock

untold acorn
#

Theyre all in pre-order

calm cobalt
#

Hmmm

untold acorn
#

if ur lucky u might be able to snag one if ur patient

calm cobalt
#

Fr

untold acorn
#

Thats why i went with the anne pro 2

tight pulsar
#

keyboards are a great way to gain patience

calm cobalt
#

Whats the best mouse for semi bigger hands

tight pulsar
#

model d looks pretty decent

calm cobalt
#

Because the mouse I have rn for my Xbox is kinda small

north ridge
#

glorious O

#

is my favorite mouse

calm cobalt
#

Isn't it small tho?

north ridge
#

they have a bigger and smaller version

#

50$ as well

tight pulsar
#

they have the o o- and d

#

pretty much all sizes

calm cobalt
#

Which one is bigger?

north ridge
#

oh u like big eh

tight pulsar
#

d is the biggest

#

it does d o o-

calm cobalt
#

Ok

#

Is there anything similar to the Corsair Iron Claw but cheaper?

untold acorn
#

wired or wireless?

calm cobalt
#

Wired

#

I just need something that is wide and sits a lil higher off the ground than the model o

karmic bramble
#

Anyone here into custom keyboards? I have some questions

tight pulsar
#

yea what u need @karmic bramble

karmic bramble
#

I was looking at stabilizers and reading the comments on them. They mentioned lube for them. As I don't know anything about custom keyboards, could you explain the use of lube on a mechanical keyboard?

#

I am also curious as to whether what parts I have chosen will work together

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@tight pulsar

tight pulsar
#

okay so for switches and stabilizers, the stem (the cross looking part) and the housings are plastic on plastic, which causes friction. Lube helps get rid of that, for switches it slightly changes the sound/feel and makes them more smooth, which is what people want. For stabilizers, it’s more important because it reduces the rattle between the stem and the wire, and makes it smoother. For switches it’s more optional, but it’s something that makes the stabilizers way better

karmic bramble
#

Okay. That makes a lot of sense. If I sent my list of parts, could you calrify that they would work or not?

tight pulsar
#

yea

karmic bramble
#

Cool. Should I do it here or through DM?

tight pulsar
#

doesn’t really matter for me

karmic bramble
#

Okay

neon quartzBOT
#
Zippman#9960 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

tight pulsar
#

okay dms then lol

feral minnow
#

anyone recomend a gamimg mouse

#

preferably under 80 bucks

untold acorn
#

Wired or Wireless?

neon root
#

depends on what kind of gaming youre doing but glorious model o- is what i recommend

feral minnow
#

wired

#

was maybe thinking about the logitech g502 hero

neon root
#

also a good mouse

#

also on sale rn it seems on amazon though gotta wait for it to be in stock

untold acorn
#

Razer Basilisk is a solid wireless mouse

solar star
#

Elgato Cam Link 4K vs. dedicated card? +/-? Thx

neon root
#

depends on what camera but cam link if you can get it at a reasonable price

solar star
#

Canon Vixia HF R800.

neon root
#

i say depends on what camera because some cameras can connect via usb such as select canon cameras

solar star
#

It can connect with the cam link -- but I like to keep things in the box if possible and not usb everywhere.

neon root
#

check out canons support on their eos cam support because they have a select cameras that can connect via usb and be used as a webcam

#

otherwise again, cam link if you can get it at a decent price

solar star
#

yes -- this one is camcorder (and upgrade from my c220).

#

But I'm curious if there's a performance difference (there should be) -- but does it matter. As I'd rather go internal.

neon root
#

depends on what fps youre recording at and at what resolution as hdmi vs usb can only handle so much but cam link itself vs lets say an elgato hd 60 pro, they would be about same performance

midnight wharf
#

how much cost i7

#

???

neon root
#

that varies from i7 to i7 as there are many

#

9700k

#

a lot

#

an old 3000 series

#

eh

solar star
#

Exactly. And HDMI. @humble depot makes fun of me because I only have a GTX 1060 6GB, but I'll never saturate it, so no point to by a Titan so I can say that I have a better card :)😆

neon root
#

well a cam link/elgato card wouldnt matter to much with what gpu you have

#

as theyre their own encoders unless you use the nvidia encoder in something like obs

midnight wharf
#

To work at home what suits I7 or I5

neon root
solar star
#

That I know -- I was making the example that I won't saturate USB or PCI b/c I'm only doing 1080p. Just wanted to make sure there's no "gotcha" of running an internal card. That's why I gave the video card example, I don't need more than a GTX 1060.

halcyon siren
#

Yo

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Is the logitech g pro headset good?

#

The older version I think

calm cobalt
#

@halcyon siren it’s pretty much exactly the same as the newer version except it doesn’t have the Blue microphone that the new one has

#

If you don’t really care about the mic then I would get the older one

tight pulsar
#

that’s a Corsair rgb hub

calm cobalt
#

@calm cobalt a fan and RGB controller

calm cobalt
#

oh ok

woeful spire
#

Im thinking of getting a new monitor that has 144 Hz and good colors was a good low price one my budge is 200$

west hornet
#

@woeful spire

daring zenith
#

@west hornet the one listed first is shipped from China, the Newegg listing is more expensive

west hornet
#

oh whoops

daring zenith
#

There's the Newegg listing

#

Don't want them to buy it and find it takes 5 months to ship xD

west hornet
#

lmao

inner iron
#

Is an analog keyboard good for gaming

calm cobalt
#

A what

west hornet
#

What is this black magic

calm cobalt
#

Analog are okay. Unfortunately a lot of games don't have programming to allow that kind of continuous input to be usable. I would say if you're playing racing games, sure. Otherwise it's comparable to a standard keeb, maybe worse if the actuation is crap.

grim grotto
jovial scaffold
#

Purty

full kelp
#

;0

untold acorn
#

Hyperspeed Basilik is 60 bucks

calm cobalt
#

ye i can budge for the 3 dollars up

#

just tryn to figure out what i can get

untold acorn
#

So you want a mouse and a keyboard for 57 bucks?

calm cobalt
#

ye

untold acorn
#

I would go with the deathadder then

calm cobalt
#

its a good mouse right?

#

like is there much of a difference on 16.4k dpi vs 6k

untold acorn
#

I've never used the Deathadder but from what ive heard its a good mouse for the price

calm cobalt
#

ye im watching a yt vid on 16k dpi

#

i dont like that reaction in games, hard to aim

#

mouse moves too fast even on ultra low sensitivity

calm cobalt
#

tbh my logitech mouse aint bad

#

i dont even think i need to get a mouse tbh

#

i got wireless logitech mouse

#

thats my mouse

untold acorn
#

if u dont wanna get a new mouse, thats fine

calm cobalt
#

idk what gen that is

#

i have had issues with it maybe cuz i dont have a mat

#

but response sometimes fails, not sure if it was because of battery issue

#

or if its the game itself

#

i played heroes of the storm, it is a click to move game

#

and so i would click and i wouldnt get a response

#

but doesnt seem to have that isue in any other game i play

strong latch
#

Any good 144hz 1ms 1080p monitors for under $200?

calm cobalt
#

ye

#

@strong latch

strong latch
#

i was hoping for ips ngl

calm cobalt
#

ips isnt that great

#

its for movie makers really

#

to get everylast color out of ur screen

strong latch
#

im not gonna be gaming all that often

calm cobalt
#

but if ur gaming the difference is so subtle u wont notice

strong latch
#

and if i am it's gonna be visual titles like ac

calm cobalt
#

its still for video makers mainly

strong latch
#

hmm ok

calm cobalt
#

but y cant find a good one under 200

#

if u want psi

#

especially at that inch display

#

kinda gatta sacrifice one for other

#

higher cost for better looks or lower screen size for a lower price

edgy shard
#

I bought the most adorable mechanical keyboard that I thought was unique on Amazon (that I could find). Hopefully I don’t become a keyboard enthusiast and grow to hate it

#

Then again it was only $50, so maybe not a total lose

halcyon siren
#

Yo is the logitech g pro a good headset

#

I think the older version of it

tight pulsar
#

@edgy shard just be poor and that will never happen can confirm

edgy shard
#

It should be fine probably

strong latch
#

Is the Corsair Harpoon Pro a bad mouse? I've seen mixed reviews of it, some people saying that it's amazing while others claim it's a terrible mouse.

hazy fiber
#

It is a good mouse if you can get it for $35. It's a nice budget-ish mouse, but not worth $50 imo

#

If you have $50 get a refurbished Dark Core Pro

tight pulsar
fair steppe
#

jsut got this, so far its been awesome

golden bone
#

Looking for a new mouse any ideas

split nimbus
golden bone
#

Yea, you aren't wrong it is cute, but not the mouse i need

split nimbus
#

Ah, that kind of mouse! imagine coming to a tech server looking for a computer mouse 🤣

burnt thicket
#

cant relate

split nimbus
#

From my experience, logitech mice are nice

hazy fiber
#

Yea, you aren't wrong it is cute, but not the mouse i need
I like the Dark Core Pro RGB. There are some last gen ones on Corsair.com for $50 refurb and they are very nice mice. Great for a palm grip, a bit of heft, well built

#

I'm honestly not a logi fan. The ones I have tried were meh

#

I had an old ergonomic flagship and a midrange one briefly, sold both.

calm cobalt
#

i know razer is a very expensive brand with not that great of build quality but their mice are quite good

#

i have the mamba elite and its really nice

queen wadi
#

Drop alt high profile, lubed sakurios silent linears, took the stabs off of a salvaged ducky one2 mini and lubed those myself, and some cheap $20
Pudding keycaps from amazon

edgy shard
#

The keyboard I might came in. I don’t know if I like it. I’m so used to membrane keys that a mechanical just feels like a weird adjustment

tight pulsar
#

the hi pro alt looks pretty nice

lament lynx
#

What 100$ or below keeb withers switches should I get, preferably full sized

wheat dune
#

Finally

#

I get to throw out my Dell keyboard

tight pulsar
golden bone
#

Thoughts?

wheat dune
wild sparrow
#

Im gonna be picking up a Steelseries Apex pro here in a bit

unkempt timber
#

Does anyone know what keycaps would be compatible with the steel series apex pro?

wild sparrow
#

I read hyperx's pudding caps work but you might have to slightly shave down the inside of the spacebar where the LED's are and the left shift @unkempt timber

unkempt timber
#

Okay, thanks!

wild sparrow
#

basically if its to thick of a cap it binds, the switches dont have a recessed LED like standard Cherry switches

unkempt timber
#

Ok

wild sparrow
#

little bit of a shame the 200 dollar keyboard only has ABS instead of PBT caps

unkempt timber
#

Yeah, I wasn’t paying much attention to the caps customization until it was too late

wild sparrow
#

good keyboard reguardless?

unkempt timber
#

Yeah

wild sparrow
#

im looking to grab one

unkempt timber
#

Great Keyboard

wild sparrow
#

the reddit for mechanical keyboards might be able to steer you ina clearer direction

unkempt timber
#

Ok, tysm

wild sparrow
#

np

strong latch
#

Does HyperX make good headsets? All of my other peripherals are HyperX and I kinda wanna keep it consistent but idk if their headsets are any good.

neon root
#

only headset ive used from hyperx is the cloud flight which ive been liking as theyre pretty comfortable and lightweight but for overall sound and quality, theres probably some better headsets for around the same price depending on which models youre comparing

hazy fiber
#

I would avoid "gaming headsets," as you get far better sound quality for the price with an audiophile or consumer set. You pay for the gaming name. I'd suggest looking at the Sony WH1000XM3s (NC), Grado SR60s (openbacked), or Sennheiser headphones

#

I tried a flagship HyperX headset and was very disappointed compared to my daily drivers

devout fiber
#

I bought some “gaming headphones” from amazon for $13 when I used them for my Xbox one. They were actually pretty decent and the mod wasn’t that bad

#

Gaming stuff isn’t always expensive

#

:P

hazy fiber
#

True. But the $13 market isn't exactly picky

#

at that point it's like "I need something that plays sound"

#

Very low bar lol

devout fiber
#

And I’m like literally deaf

#

I use Apple earbuds for my PC and they sound good to me

hazy fiber
devout fiber
#

Lol audio people are triggered

hazy fiber
#

Yeah, no comment lol

grizzled flint
#

Whatever works. If all you are doing is watching youtube and streaming spotify you wont ever notice the difference in a reasonable cheap set of headphones and $200 ones. Some headsets do just sound horrible though.

untold acorn
#

I use my beats lmao

cedar dock
#

@queen wadi If you're taking pics like that, id recommend using a slower shutter speed or more light and then bring up the saturation and vibrance in post to make the rgb pop

dapper compass
#

I am looking for a hub/docking station for a Macbook Pro that I can support an external hard drive, HP (HDMI) monitor, samsung TV as a monitor (via HDMI), and USB microphone as well as power my Macbook. Will the Wavelink USB-C Triple Display Universal Docking station work or any other suggestions?

queen wadi
#

@cedar dock it was my phone I don’t have a camera

cedar dock
#

Suggestion still applies other than shutter speed, but great pics!

calm cobalt
#

Razer huntsman or a ducky 60 mechanical?

tight pulsar
#

ducky

thorny aspen
#

Huntsman

#

I hate ducky’s with a passion

timid horizon
#

Cloud ll gang

remote grail
#

Kraken te work perfect for me

jovial scaffold
#

Why do you hate ducky's? @thorny aspen

thorny aspen
#

Fork knife kids man they made me hate them

jovial scaffold
#

Oh lmao

#

that doesn't mean they're product is bad tho

#

Id recommend them over razer tbh

west hornet
#

triggered

jovial scaffold
west hornet
#

if you are buying headphones under 20usd then you are just looking for something that turns on, but even in that case i'd recommend the koss ksc75 or ksc75x for very low budget

untold acorn
#

Duckies are cheaper and have a larger selection of switches

#

Although theyre often sold out now

#

@calm cobalt

#

Huntsman 60%s will be availible in certain retailers and is aluminum i think

tight pulsar
#

eh I’m not really a fan of razers optical switches

thorny aspen
#

@jovial scaffold also the price makes me mad I mean 110 for blue switches

untold acorn
#

And the reds arent out yet if im correct

jovial scaffold
#

Ya, the price for what your getting amazing. You're really paying for a brand. Thats why something like a gk61 is a good choice. Cheaper, better switches, and hot swappable

tight pulsar
#

:v every tray mount will feel like a tray mount

calm cobalt
#

So is the ducky better if I can find it in stock?

queen wadi
#

You can back order it on mechanical keyboard . com

left vapor
#

what s a good but cheap gaming keyboard?

#

and can you get number pad separately?

split nimbus
#

You can

mellow leaf
#

okay welp im gunna post this here bc idk where it does if it belongs here then thats good

#

but ewww

#

i mostly care about the color

#

it just looks ewww

untold acorn
#

@calm cobalt Yea wait for them to come in stock, I believe the TKL blue led one is in stock rn

winged furnace
#

does any one know of a good mechanical keyboard for around $70

night vessel
#

Ayyy could someone help me find cheap key caps for apex 5?

#

@winged furnace gk61

tight pulsar
#

@west hornet best iems for like 50?

west hornet
#

artiste dc1 is good for money, but might be long shipping. i hear good things about the kz zs10 too and it would probably be better shipping

tight pulsar
#

hm

#

thank

west hornet
#

oh also forgot the TIN T2's @tight pulsar

tight pulsar
#

ic

#

would those be fine for stuff like biking

west hornet
#

if you kept the wire tucked somewhere so it doesn't hit the bike i think it should be fine, the tin's have a solid metal body, my only concern if i was biking is the wire getting stuck and them falling out of my ear, but falling out depends on the individual

tight pulsar
#

ya they won’t get stuck or something idk if the sweat would be an issue or nah

west hornet
#

I don't think it should be an issue, cables and iem are sealed mostly it seems

tight pulsar
tight pulsar
west hornet
daring zenith
#

Lol

calm cobalt
#

I’m don’t like cherry switches

#

Too much hype for what it delivers

#

Gaterons are way better

#

But halo trues and holy pandas Chef_Kiss

tight pulsar
#

ergo clears far superior tho

jovial scaffold
#

Lmao that meme

untold acorn
#

I dont like clears in my opinion

tight pulsar
#

thats why u make ergo clears ez

golden bone
#

are maono mics any good?

untold acorn
#

Cousin has clears and theyre Sick

gritty sluice
#

Anyone know mouse those bigger full sized mouse pads? any recommendations.

#

Where you can put the keyboard and mouse on it

split nimbus
#

I had a corsair one

half herald
#

Any decent 50~ dollar mechanical keyboards?

lament lynx
#

G502 hero, or cm mm711??

tight pulsar
#

glorious has a pretty big mousepads

analog brook
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what do yall think about the logitech pro keyboard vs the steelseries apex 7 tkl

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im considering getting one and theyre both $130

untold acorn
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@gritty sluice Steelseries has a pretty big one

snow swift
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I just got a corsair one

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It was 25 dollar for their 36*15 and it was the thiccccccccc variant. I think it's 6mm thicccccc

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Was on sale tho

prime breach
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Steelseries arctis 1’s for $35 bucks on amazon rn

untold acorn
hollow pond
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Too good not to share! Just found this item on Mercari. Tap the link to sign up and get up to $30 off. https://merc.li/8tt2nAVtb

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Use your Xbox One controller on your PC with this adapter. Works as it should.

I have a lot of other computer stuff for sale on my page, feel free to check it out!

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This a good deal or nah?

frail knoll
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Most of the newer controllers work with Bluetooth

hollow pond
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i dont have bluetooth on my pc

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and wouldnt there be more latency?

west hornet
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bluetooth usually has some latency

calm cobalt
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😀

frail knoll
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I mean if you're using a controller it's gonna add some latency anyway

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and if you're really worried about latency just plug it in with a micro usb

graceful jetty
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I'm really confused this keeps happening with my One 2 Mini.

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Basically seemingly randomly it goes into a weird mode where Windows goes weird.

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Pressing esc focuses different windows, pressing tab pulls up the old alt tab menu, and hitting shift changes keyboard languages (as if per win+space)

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Unplugging and replugging the keyboard does not fix it. Restarting windows does.

amber oracle
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@graceful jetty has it switched into tablet mode?

graceful jetty
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I do have a tablet plugged in but this issue was happening to me long before I got my tablet.

winged furnace
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i have $50 what is the best keyboard i could get

graceful jetty
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Depends on what you want.

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I like to buy keyboards in local used markets when on budget because you get more for much cheaper.

amber oracle
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not what i mean @graceful jetty. Windows has a tablet mode, that amongst other things enables a software keyboard.

graceful jetty
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oooh

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It was the accessibility on screen keyboard

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Enabled from the Settings app.

amber oracle
graceful jetty
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I think I'm always in tablet mode now (my tablet is always plugged in, but I don't always use it).

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nope nvm

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I forgot that option existed. Didn't touch it.

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I thought you maybe meant Windows Ink.

amber oracle
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next time it happens, check if that one has switched on

graceful jetty
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Doesn't it change the taskbar iirc?

amber oracle
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i honestly cannot remember

graceful jetty
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I'd have noticed if my beautiful taskbar had been messed with GWchadThinkeyes

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Actually the tablet is one of the things that helped me diagnose the issue.

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When you hold a mod key like Ctrl and use the pen, it shows "Ctrl" under the cursor.

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When it's in the glitched mode, I see Alt Gr under the cursor all the time.

amber oracle
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that "sounds" like your input being "glitched/locked/bugged"

graceful jetty
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I'm on a french keyboard if that helps.

amber oracle
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it should not matter.

graceful jetty
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What's weird is, I can sort of type on discord (typing is normal but some functions don't work), but if I go into Settings or the Start Menu I can only type Alt Gr keys (like € if I press E).

amber oracle
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check your keyboard settings in windows, that you dont have a "weird" keyboard added

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quick way to do that is winkey+space

graceful jetty
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Windows + Space pulls up the region switching dialogue I thought?

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It shows English and French (AZERTY)

amber oracle
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which is ALSO the keyboard switch IF you have multiple

graceful jetty
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Ah. It only shows English and French as options.

amber oracle
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okay, so that does not seem to be the option then

graceful jetty
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In the glitched "mode", pressing shift on Discord or Chrome (haven't checked other apps) opens the Win+Space menu.

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But on UWP (like Settings or Start), it doesn't seem to do anything iirc.

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Can't check since I'm not in glitch mode.

amber oracle
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aye, which makes me lean towards the glitched/locked/bugged comment i made earlier

graceful jetty
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I'd like to tell you if it happens on other PCs too, but I can't really repro the bug.

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It hadn't happened in ~two weeks.

amber oracle
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a couple of things you can try:

graceful jetty
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It used to happen a lot more often (every few days). IDK if I've been lucky, but I've only had the kb for a couple months.

amber oracle
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run a reset of windows.

graceful jetty
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also btw I am off my PC until tomorrow so I will have to try stuff tmrw (it is late here)

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I don't want to reset all my installed apps..

amber oracle
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trying to use a different keyboard (and keep using it until it either happens or doesnt)

graceful jetty
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It's really customized.

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It doesn't happen with another keyboard.

amber oracle
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then take that keyboard, load it in a trebuchet (if you dont own one, get your mcguyver on and build one) and launch it at the manufacturer

graceful jetty
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Only the Ducky One 2 Mini. Other keyboard being a Logitech membrane (oof) keyboard I had to use for a month, and a G Skill full size mech.

amber oracle
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see above :)

graceful jetty
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A key difference (besides the ducky being much smaller) is that the ducky is AZERTY while all my others are QWERTY.

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haha good idea

amber oracle
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because what you are describing should NOT happen.

graceful jetty
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I bought it in my local used market so I'm not sure if they'll take it but worth a try.

amber oracle
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perhaps have a look at some of the mech keyboard forums and see if anyone else has seen that

tight pulsar
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o it’s a french layout

graceful jetty
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Fractal Design took my case from 4 years ago that I bought when living accross the Pacific because a USB port broke.

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Yeah I hate it @tight pulsar

amber oracle
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because it COULD be a borked solder joint or controller bug

graceful jetty
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I've googled it a lot. Haven't found much :/

amber oracle
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try and reach out to Ducky

graceful jetty
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Some people suggest installing the latest firmware for similar issues, but been there done that.

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wildew

tight pulsar
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also id just get something like switch hitter and see what the keys do

graceful jetty
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*will do

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Thanks, voice type lol

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Switch hitter?

tight pulsar
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basically it tells you what each key resisters like if ur key was mapped to something else

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it’s nice for testing pcbs

graceful jetty
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Oh nice.

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The One2M doesn't have a Alt Gr key but worth a try.

amber oracle
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it has "some" way of triggering the alt-gr key

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it might be a multi-key press, but there IS a way

graceful jetty
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Problem is, to test I have to repro the bug. As you can probably guess it happens very sporadically and this time hid for two whole weeks.

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I can do Ctrl+Alt to access altgr functions, but neither ctrl nor alt are reported as held.

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Should mention it's left Ctrl and Alt. The right ones are remapped to arrow keys.

amber oracle
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which again, leads to the previous comment

graceful jetty
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Which one?

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RMA?