#peripherals-and-displays

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brisk parcel
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glad I could help

devout fiber
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alright thanks for all the help @brisk parcel 🙂

west hornet
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yes i agree with the sound quality in sony being a tad better but i think bose cancels out more noise

hazy fiber
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Maybe. I'll have to compare again. Maybe it was just the more comfortable feel on my head giving the illusion of better cancellation

west hornet
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lol

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and as always we don't all have the same ears, so audio can be completely subjective to the person overall

hazy fiber
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True

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But like we can all agree that the $3 wired earbuds that came with iPod classics are trash compared a $400 offering from bose 🙂

west hornet
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ofc xD

hazy fiber
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I'd say the Sonys have richer sosund than the Bose.... and slightly, slightly, slightly worse NC

west hornet
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lol

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slight

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unless you really ned that nc sony prob better for most

hazy fiber
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Yeah, unless you're me and hit your head hard while wearing them

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Like I have given myself a headache from a direct hit to these bose headphones and they didn't even scratch

astral hinge
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what do u ppl think of basilisk x hyperspeed + razer cynosa for a nice ~ 100$ setup?

hazy fiber
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Harpoon wireless is cheaper than hyperspeed and is a solid mouse. You could also find a decent corsair RGB keyboard to add in at the price point. But if you like Razer, you do you

atomic sundial
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hey guys, is there a good budget (~50 USD) rgb tkl keyboard with red /slient red /sliver, any suggestions? Thank you

atomic sundial
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I have checked rk 87, hyper x alloy tkl, ducky one 2 tkl, corsair, logitech pro x
ducky tkl is not on my budget line so....
I think I will add a little more to buy leopold/filco if i had that budget

calm cobalt
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anne pro 2

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or reddragon keyboards

tight pulsar
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leopold makes good keyboards, same with varmilo

heady spruce
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Anyone know of some good monitors under $200 preferably 144hz

jovial scaffold
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Boom

heady spruce
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Any other reccomendations?

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that one does look pretty good ive been looking at it

eternal beacon
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would anyone know a good gaming keyboard for games like apex and cod? i have small hands

hazy fiber
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Try a few different types of switches, find one you like, buy one from a brand you like with decent reviews

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I personally like Cherry Mx Brown

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Look for injection molded caps if you want to prevent keys wearing out

eternal beacon
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ok thanks

idle cairn
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Anyone got suggestions for a value pcb and board for getting into custom keyboards?

tight pulsar
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kbdfans is a decent place to start

sullen solstice
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anyone know of a good wireless mini keyboard to control an htpc with?

young crown
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@sullen solstice

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that one even has a trackpad built in so you dont need a mouse, i think thats a great choice.

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dedicated volume keys too

sullen solstice
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nice, thanks. saved for payday

thorny aspen
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@idle cairn rk61 board and go to bang good for keycaps and just get switched from any website

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Get a sauter and boom keyboard

idle cairn
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Won’t bang good just have cheap Chinese knockoffs?

thorny aspen
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I mean I know my friends who built one bought keycaps off there

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Like double shot put

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Pbt

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You can always get hyperx or Razer ones

idle cairn
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I might I’d rather give my money to something non China made tbh

thorny aspen
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Ok then get some double shot pbt of your liking on eBay amazon Newegg or really anything whatever your preference is

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But if ya want 60% get the rk61 board

idle cairn
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Is going full reasonable?

thorny aspen
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Yeah

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Rk61 is like 55 and no complaints and it’s hotswappable and you can just plop it in

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20 for switches and 10-20 for keycaps

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Ya set for years

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I think it has rgb

idle cairn
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I just hope I enjoy it as much as my G810

thorny aspen
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You should 🙂

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Worse case return everything

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No harm no foul

idle cairn
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Is browns the way to go for tactile?

thorny aspen
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I love em

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Personal I think they are the best switch

idle cairn
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Im going from romer gs

thorny aspen
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Alpacas have the best sound I think

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Yeah whatever u want is good

idle cairn
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how much stiffer are clears?

atomic sundial
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I might I’d rather give my money to something non China made tbh
@idle cairn ducky made in Taiwan

tight pulsar
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Clears are hella stiff

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this force curve graph is color coded with the mx cherry (higher means stiffer, the light gray are clears and the brown are browns

lilac pagoda
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What’s the best 60% keyboard

split nimbus
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What are the axis on that chart?

jovial scaffold
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Ducky one 2 mini or Anne pro 2

daring zenith
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@split nimbus I believe it's gf of force to distanced traveled in cm

split nimbus
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What is this gf unit?

daring zenith
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gram force

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I think

tight pulsar
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yeah

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The pressure, that’s how mine is laid out (the main way for force curve graphs)

little crater
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this is pretty cool

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i didnt know people made graphs for keyswitches lol

tight pulsar
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:/ all the 62g springs are sold out

merry sundial
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You'd be surprised what people make graphs about.

brisk parcel
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did someone say graphs?

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"makes some graph about headphones because I'm a huge audio nerd"

brisk parcel
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speaking of buying things

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I'm buying the headphones FOR SURE tomorrow, but I need a dedicated mic and boom arm setup too

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so, anyone got any recommendations for a combo that's like $75-ish? I know a blue snowball is $50 and a boom arm, well a good one, is around $25

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but the snowball itself comes in in 4 weeks so like I wanna find a combo that's in stock if I can

jovial scaffold
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I dont have a suggestion but congrats on finally getting the headsets tupb

brisk parcel
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@jovial scaffold thanks haha, from what I know the 660S are better than the 650 so i'm gonna mod the 58X, remove the foam and paper over the driver, and it should sound so close to the 660S

jovial scaffold
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Sounds good

golden bone
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What’s a good 60% or an 87 key keyboard

ionic terrace
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Corsair Ironclaw wireless or just normal?

dapper abyss
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are there any custom keycap sets for the hyperx alloy origins?

tight pulsar
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afaik it has a standard bottom row so any set could fit it, mainly just preference

wicked lake
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kk

timber peak
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Yo, peeps, i need help, im kinda new to the "mechanical keyboard buying business" and im between getting the steelseries apex 5 or the logitech g613, which one would be better

jovial scaffold
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I'm sure there will be proponents of Logitech but I like steel series keyboards as a whole, way better than Logitech keyboards.

hazy fiber
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I just don't like logi :)

jovial scaffold
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Their mice are good

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Most of em at least

maiden night
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Yeah, Logitech's skill is mice for sure.

west hornet
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Logitech is fine

brisk parcel
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ordered the headphones! I have all the instructions to mod them in place, so yay

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they ship on the 10th

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hopefully

calm cobalt
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anyone else hate custom built keyboards

daring zenith
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..?

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Have or hate

tight pulsar
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why would you hate them they look nice

daring zenith
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Have makes sense

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Hate doesn't

west hornet
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Ugly

tight pulsar
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i have come to a conclusion that ghost is too poor to get a keyboard like that so he hates on it

west hornet
daring zenith
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Rip

west hornet
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I want one with those key caps that have pretty pink tree

calm cobalt
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i honestly think they're ugly .-.

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and they're expensive af for some reason

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people spend thousands on one keyboard

weary lodge
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It's the part of the PC you directly interface with, it's worth making sure it's quality

daring zenith
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Thousands huh

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Gmmk tho

tight pulsar
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thats not a custom :v

split nimbus
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The all metal keyboard probably cost thousands

tight pulsar
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i mean you can get a full brass keyboard for 1k, and just a alu one can be like 140

split nimbus
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No, the keys are plastic

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I want the real full metal keybaord

tight pulsar
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well yeah but nobody is gonna buy brass keycaps

split nimbus
tight pulsar
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yeah salvun made those and its like $60 a piece

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and linus had to send them back rip

split nimbus
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Yes

tight pulsar
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also I wonder who won that 🤔

split nimbus
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Not me 😦

brisk parcel
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@real galleon it's been a few days, liking your 6XXs? think they were worth it?

turbid torrent
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Just got the Tecware Phantom 104 keyboard today, first mech keyboard so I need a little getting use to it

wanton wagon
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how much would a 1080p60fps capture card cost

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for pc

swift lantern
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~$100

wanton wagon
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can someone link me one

west hornet
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Look at elgato

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I’m not at my pc to find link

fiery marsh
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So I am looking to buy this monitor: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CWDBL39/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ggf0c-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07CWDBL39&linkId=2fdea7b32d4a63d6a656cf9f1762d640 . I have a 2080ti and 3900x. I have been looking for monitors (specifically HDR) that have 144 hz, but it never occurred to me that the higher hz, the more power it will take to actually get 144 fps. I have seen some reviewers say that you probably need a Titan gpu or something along those lines to even get 144 fps. Is that true and if so, should I even be looking for 144 hz monitor that is HDR?

daring zenith
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I think you mean the higher resolution

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4k (3440x2160) is a lot harder to run than 1080p to get 144fps

ionic terrace
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Yo, Ironclaw wireless RGB. What to expect?

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Real corsair fanboy and I need a mouse to complete my set plus a mousepad.

hasty quail
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@ionic terrace the Corsair MM800 RGB pad is nice, but $60 lol

ionic terrace
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Breh. That's about almost the same price as the mouse then lmao @hasty quail

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I ain't rich lel.

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I'm even wincing at the fact I bought hs 70 which still makes question why I spent that much.

hazy fiber
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@ionic terrace if you're looking for ergonomics, I'd suggest the dark Core rgb pro

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I love that mouse. I was considering the ironclaw too, but the reviews on it are mixed

reef elk
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Is there any good mechanical keyboard with Brown switches under 60-70 €

violet glen
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why do so many ppl use the hyperx fps alloy?

sullen solstice
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do cherry mx switches only have the two contacts? one on the bottom and one on the side?

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well. they're all on the bottom

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but on the bottom of the bottom and side of the bottom

ionic terrace
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@hazy fiber Aight thanks for the opinion, I'll try and see if I have any cash left for that.

turbid sentinel
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Hey guys, any idea for a mechanical keyboard, preferably gaming and blue switch

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i currently have the hyperx alloy elite blue switches

wide bear
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Depends on what ur price range is

turbid sentinel
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max 250$

cloud ridge
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Someone help me find endgame headphones

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DM if you can help

tight pulsar
west hornet
cursive marsh
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:(

tight pulsar
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okay but it even has a microphone

silver roost
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Is the razer nari/ultimate worth it?

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or the kraken ultimate

astral hinge
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depends on if u rlly need it @silver roost

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like if ur a streamer and u need 150-200$ of mic/audio quality, then go for it

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but most ppl are just fine with regular headphones

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as a non-streamer, i'd go with something a little cheaper like a regular kraken

silver roost
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Well I mean I might go into streaming

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I never tried because I have a bad echo with speakers

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My local best buy sells Nari Wirelesses for $130

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Then I could sell my current speakers for a little less so it’s not really a large loss

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How about the Kraken Ultimate is that good

astral hinge
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all razer headsets have phenominal quality

silver roost
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Hmm

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I’ll do some research between the two thanks

astral hinge
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np

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personally, I have tried both, and the sound quality between razer kraken x usb and razer nari ultimate isn't that much- I also liked the kraken x soooo much better bc it's really light and you can wear it for hours on end without feeling your head getting heavy or your ears hot @silver roost, if you plan to have it on for long periods of time

maiden night
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HyperX clouds are always nice too

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Ive had my cloud II's for 3 years and they still feel and sound great

whole rose
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@ me if you respond please.
Does anyone use a Respawn gaming chair?

silver roost
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I know I'm getting annoying about the headphones but I'm looking for reeeeeeally good ones, looking for ones under comfortable, under $200, wireless

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I can't choose between the many options

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Shoot me a ping if you have answers

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Arctis 5 or 7- those any good?

brisk parcel
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do they have to be wireless?

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because I was gonna recommend the cooler master MH751 or MH752

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probably the best closed back under 200 gaming headset you can get

silver roost
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I'm probably gonna go with the Arctic 5, don't care about the wire

neon quartzBOT
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NJ737#4455 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

silver roost
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woops

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Everyone who had one recommended it said they liked it very much so I was like if I can get it for $88 then why not

maiden night
astral hinge
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If u have such a high budget for headphones @silver roost go Razer nari ultimate

maiden night
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Or if you have a super high budget, get some audiophile stuff. Like, separate dac/amps and stuff

silver roost
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I was told not to go for razer headphones tho

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The issue with this virus is that I don't get to test any of this out so this is very hard for me to make a choice

cursive marsh
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cheap audiophile headphones are good

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cheap being like 80 dolar

brisk parcel
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tbh, wireless is ok but...

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it just has all that gaming gimmic BS

slate oyster
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does anyone know if the hyperx cloud earbuds are any good?

cursive marsh
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no

slate oyster
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alright

cursive marsh
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I do not know, that is :)

gleaming walrus
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I recently purchased an autofocus HD 1080P Webcam and it is not working well with my Mac computers. I need information about software/drivers that are safe to download so the camera will provide a reasonable quality picture on the screen. It works fine on my friend's laptop because the software downloaded automatically when we connected the camera, but that's because he has a PC laptop. I am the person doing constant Zoom meetings with students, and I am all Mac. I hope you can recommend some software that I can download so I don't look so washed out I appear to be a ghost! Thanks!!!

maiden night
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Look for the manufacturer website

gleaming walrus
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I tried to do that, but the manufacturer isn't revealed. Here is the description in Newegg:

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AutoFocus Full HD Webcam 1080P with Privacy Shutter - Pro Web Camera with stereo Microphone - USB Computer Camera for PC Laptop Desktop Mac Video Calling, Conferencing Skype YouTube AutoFocus Full HD Webcam 1080P with Privacy Shutter - Pro Web Camera with stereo Microphone - USB Computer Camera for PC Laptop Desktop Mac Video Calling, Conferencing Skype YouTube The literature that came with it suggests downloading an AMCAP.exe file "from website" but no website is given. Plus, exe files are only for PCs, not for Macs.

split nimbus
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And there is your problem. You are using non mac approved hardware+software with a mac

daring zenith
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I dunno

gleaming walrus
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The webcam came with a pamphlet that suggested AMCAP files, but at the same time said the webcam was appropriate for Mac systems. I found a web site with alternative software for Macs (instead of AMCAP), and one program was Debut. (I keep trying to paste the link here but when I do that it deletes my entry.) I don't want to randomly download programs, but maybe Debut is safe.

clear crystal
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Corsair k70 SE

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Are they good?

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Currently 110 @ BestBuy

gleaming walrus
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I didn't download anything from that web site since I wasn't sure if the site was malware or not. It looks legitimate, but I didn't want to experiment with downloading Debut (or any of the other suggested programs) without checking with other people who are more experienced at using webcam software than I am. The webcam is totally recognized by my Mac laptop, and I use it for all my Zoom sessions with students. The issue is that I need software to help the picture to be better because it's totally washed out. I am hoping Debut might be that software, and that some webstreamer out there uses a Mac and is familiar with software that will work for me.

astral hinge
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get a webcam that actually works fine with mac, like logitech

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@gleaming walrus

gleaming walrus
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Thanks for this suggestion. You are the only person who has shared this key piece of advice with me about which webcams work with Macs! I really hate to spend more money, but I had borrowed a logitech webcam from a friend (before I bought my own webcam) and it worked just fine. (I only now realize that the brand mattered.) Given that online teaching will be continuing for many months to come, I think I need to take your suggestion and buy a webcam that will work with Mac.

brisk parcel
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oh wow I just saw this now haha

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yeah @gleaming walrus get something like a logitech, their webcams are nice, and not too expensive

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I would say you could just get a windows PC in some form, but I assume your mac is school issued

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I just graduated high school actually 😂 i'm thinking about taking the IT opening they have since I know all my teachers would recommend me, they always asked me first before they actually talked to the IT people lmao

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yeah autofocus is notorious for not wanting to work with macs, I never figured out why

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@west hornet 58X jubilees come in tomorrow and I'm MEGA HYPE

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kinda surprised it took so little time

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I ordered them last friday, they shipped on monday

west hornet
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oh nice, I just ordered a new audio interface yesterday

brisk parcel
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what'd you get?

west hornet
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the motu m2

brisk parcel
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oooooooooooh

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i'm jealous

west hornet
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it was impossible to find anywhere

brisk parcel
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I can imagine, lots of things you think would be in stock just aren't

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stupid corona

west hornet
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I ended up buying it from someone on a discord, fingers crossed i get it

brisk parcel
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yeah really lmao, i'm sure you will

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and if you don't you can probably get a refund

west hornet
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yeah im confident i will, if not there is buyers protection

brisk parcel
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that's what I always say lmao

west hornet
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I called a few stores and they all said it could be awhile until they got it in stock

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still waiting to order my mic arm

brisk parcel
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I need to do that too

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I'm waiting to get the cans to try and see how I wanna do it that's all

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probably gonna get a K669 or whatever it's called from fifine

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I just saw a FedEx truck go up the street 👀

west hornet
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yeah fifine has good budget from what i hear

brisk parcel
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lemme check otuside rq lmao

west hornet
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lol

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anxious i see

brisk parcel
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dang sadpepe

west hornet
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the q2u is also a good budget mic

brisk parcel
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see like it says it'll be delivered tomorrow

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but it's literally in pittsburgh right now

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not even 10 mins away

tight pulsar
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y’all are like a black market with all this sus stuff

brisk parcel
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wdym sus lmao

west hornet
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hey it ain't sus. I needed it within 1-2 week and no one else had it

brisk parcel
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lmao

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tbh I'm lucky I'm getting it super quickly

tight pulsar
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why tf u buying stuff off discord

brisk parcel
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I know drop is famous for taking a month to ship

tight pulsar
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like at least do it off Reddit or something

west hornet
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I happened to run into someone with extra equipment

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reddit, ebay, etc. ive already tried

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no one selling or sold out

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it was a last resort

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Yeah massdrop usually takes awhile to ship

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I think mine was about a month

brisk parcel
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then again I guess I got lucky

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they shipped from jersey and I live in PA

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didn't take long at all

west hornet
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Schiit usually takes a while for me too, but I had sorter shipping during quarantine

brisk parcel
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I need to order my modi and magni too

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not yet though imma wait a few months I don't really need them

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my G6 is fine

west hornet
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Ye do research first

brisk parcel
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I did and like honestly I don't think I need them at all

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a lot of people like the G6, it can even drive those legendary 600 ohm things from berodynamic

west hornet
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ofc it is totally up to you, we all hear things different 🙂

fierce nova
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@hushed root how about this one?

hushed root
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Yes

heady spruce
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anyone know of some good keyboards thata arent too expensive

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like 75 and under

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I was looking at the razer ornata maybe

merry sundial
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Logitech k120

weary lodge
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refurbished corsair mech keyboard CORSAIR

boreal thunder
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Redragon mech

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It’s like 30$

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Tenkeyless

clear crystal
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There’s the k63 something that was less than 75

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Is*

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And I think that linus recently did a video

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Can i post the video here or dm?

full quarry
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Can I ask about a router here? I don't see a networking section, so I'm trying peripherals. How does this, TP-Link Archer AX10 Wi-Fi 6 Dual-Band Router, compare to a, ASUS RT-AC68R Wireless-AC1900 ?

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I assume any AX router is going to be better than my AC router. I just want to make sure it is an upgrade before I place my order. This is not the Wi-fi 6 AX router I would prefer to have, but I want to jump on the AX band wagon as soon as possible and I could get this cheaper model now, while I save for a better AX Wi-fi 6 router to buy later.

clear crystal
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For less than 75

Corsair k63
RedDragon devajaras
Logitech k840
Corsair k68
Logitech 610 Orion

@heady spruce

weary lodge
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i have the k63 wireless on my main PC and it's fantastic

turbid torrent
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I use the Tecware phantom 104 with outemu browns, no problems and feels nice

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@heady spruce

void belfry
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does anyone have the myochair or ergo chair 2

void belfry
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or the steelcase series 1

brisk parcel
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headphones came in

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idk what to listen to first

west hornet
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I was listening to bohemian rhapsody and spent a good 2hrs deciding if there was distortion in the recording(clipping)

brisk parcel
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DUDE

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WHAT THE HELL

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WHAT IS THIS SOUND I'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE

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OK

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WHAT

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this is not right

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I think I just heard what you were talking about

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coming from the left side?

west hornet
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yes

brisk parcel
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WHAT

west hornet
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mostly in left channel

brisk parcel
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THAT'S FROM THE RECORDING?

west hornet
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some of the bass and guitar

brisk parcel
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ok

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so like

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moral of the story

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never go back to closed back

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bet

west hornet
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I googled and on reddit some people said it was a strategy of producers

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closed back is still good for some people

brisk parcel
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I know

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but I'm good

west hornet
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All depends on the person 🙂

brisk parcel
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this is too good

west hornet
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lol

brisk parcel
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ok now experimenting time

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gonna remove the foam covering the driver

west hornet
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with mine I wasn't sure what to think at first but then slowly noticed more and more differences in sound

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another song i like to listen to is warriors by league of legends, has a really cool feel

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feels very chilling to me

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funny thing was when i got new headphones in vc it made there voices sound worse to me at first because my friends don't have good mics

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there was no change in their voices ROFLEgg

brisk parcel
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I don't like it

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go back to the dark theme newegg logo

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I just saw that

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that wasn't about the headphones btw lmao

west hornet
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lol

arctic glacier
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Does anyone have any suggestions for L shaped gaming desks?
I can't find any that are deep enough, or cost more than my computer

boreal thunder
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Hey guys 👋👋👋

hazy fiber
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Sup

arctic glacier
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Heyooo

turbid torrent
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hi

idle helm
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Anyone know good mic?

prime isle
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Yes

cursive marsh
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I know of a good Mike

prime isle
calm cobalt
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anyone know if tp links are worth it? i've been running my pc of a wifi connection for the last year and was wondering if a tp link has major effect as my main internet router is too far away from my room :))

west hornet
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electrovoice RE20 Chef_Kiss

fluid dew
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Just a rando question, but what would be the best way to sell a monitor locally?

little crater
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craigslist

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fb marketplace

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those are your two best options

deep kernel
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Also, use Letgo and Offerup. Using those in collection would broaden your range. FB marketplace would be the fastest way of selling in my opinion since everyone has FB @fluid dew

fluid dew
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Thanks for the answers

full kelp
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didnt letgo get purchased by offerup?

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offerup is a bit more active in the tech area than FB marketplace

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many people have facebook but not everyone uses marketplace

deep kernel
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Np

silver roost
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I see Arctis 7 on newegg for cheap, are they 2019 edition or ????

proper sphinx
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They seem to fake.

calm cobalt
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Only one way to find out

strong ridge
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Do gaming chairs count as peripherals?

hazy fiber
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I'd say so

strong ridge
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Is this a good deal??

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I saw it on offer up

knotty cape
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Yes

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Amazing deal

split nimbus
jovial scaffold
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Lmao

little crater
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heh

flat fjord
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whats the best keyboard for its price?

tight pulsar
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🤔 depends on how much u wanna spend

little crater
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an OEM rubber dome dell or hp keyboard

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theyre so cheap

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but they actually work

brisk parcel
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@flat fjord how much are you willing to spend?

jovial scaffold
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He's not here anymore lol

knotty cape
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Wait he actually got banned

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Ouch

jovial scaffold
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He probably left. Spammers tend to do that when they don't get attention

knotty cape
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Pretty sure he got banned

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Bc he was just trying to level up

jovial scaffold
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

gentle jasper
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best mics for discord?

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and/or streaming

west hornet
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the yeti nano seems like a decent usb mic if you can afford it

fluid dew
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Best keyboard for around 80

graceful jetty
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so I'm new to the keyboard game, but would like to buy a nice keyboard for gaming. I'm currently using a G.SKILL KM570 RGB with MX Browns. It's alright, but quite loud (especially for browns).

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Looking around in the local marketplace, I've found these two in new condition:```cpp
"One 2 Mini (white, MX Speed Silver) for 90 euro"

"Ducky Shine 4 (black, MX Black) for 50 euro"

Any recommendations on which to choose? Is the One 2 Mini worth the higher price?
graceful jetty
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probs going with the mini, because I heard MX blacks are not so great

graceful jetty
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alright, buying the One 2 Mini for 90€ in a bit

tight pulsar
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mx blacks are pretty heavy

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vintage blacks from old wyse boards are pretty nice, but you need to put a lighter spring in them to make them good

graceful jetty
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ah

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went with the speed silver one 2 mini

west hornet
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I'm looking for a mic boom arm around 100, i was going to get the blue compass but it seems out of stock everywhere, anyone know a place that might have it or an alternative

brisk parcel
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just a boom arm or a mic and boom arm?

west hornet
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just arm

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the oc white podcast pro looks interesting but i've never heard of it before, i've looked at a few from auray too

west hornet
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maybe ill just keep waiting for the blue

tidal spoke
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Any recomendations on an affordable and well made keyboard/mouse

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Budget would be around $50 each

hazy fiber
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If you don't mind going a little over, I would wait for a sale on a corsair dark core rgb pro - I personally love it

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Harpoon wireless [in my opinion] is a good budget option if you can find it under $35

tidal spoke
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Oh man i feel bad now

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i was looking at the corsair dark core rgb pro like 2 days ago, it spiked on amazon to over 150 ;-;

hazy fiber
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They have occasional sales down to $69.99. But if that's over budget, eh

tidal spoke
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no no i was contemplating on getting it, i dont mind going over a bit if its worth it you know

hazy fiber
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Yeah, looks like the good sellers are out of stock on amazon

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There are other options, this is just my personal preference

tidal spoke
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Understandable, will keep it in mind though because ive heard good things about before

hasty quail
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i have the Dark Core, it was a hit to my finances but worth the price in the end for me lol

tidal spoke
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ive never owned a wireless mouse how long do they generally hold their charge?

turbid torrent
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Does anyone know a good wireless headphone under 80?

hasty quail
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@tidal spoke this one holds about 2 days for me w/ 10-12hr computer usage each day, plus the USB-C charging cable allows you to use wired while it charges

tidal spoke
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Corsair h60 is $70. heard of it having issues with the usb adapter but overall supposed to bbe pretty goood

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@hasty quail oh wow thats amazing, i was expecting less than a 12 hour battery life

hasty quail
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i use it 2-3hrs before work, 8hrs during work, and 2-3hrs after work, and sometimes i will have to plug it in near the end of a work shift after removing it from charging the day before, so

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like yesterday i removed from charge at noon, and it's 628pm now and it's "low" but not "critical low"

tidal spoke
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Does it ever get randomly disconnected?

hasty quail
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nope, neither wired or thru the wireless adapter

tidal spoke
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Oh ok awesome, you guys just sold me on it

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Big thanks!

hasty quail
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i was very hesitant about it, but so glad i got it

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it's the most expensive mouse i have ever bought lol

tidal spoke
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Same here, kinda scary but since its something im going to use on a daily basis might as well get something of quality right

knotty cape
#

Does anyone know if the hyperx quadcast mic is any good

west hornet
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the polar patterns are meh, should stay on cardioid. It's nice to have a mute button on the top and the sound is decent. it is a little expensive.

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ports are also in a weird spot, the headphone jack on it i wouldn't use because you cannot turn off direct monitoring

knotty cape
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Normally it goes for around 120 so if I find one for that price would it be good?

west hornet
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im not sure tbh, could depend on the person, like if you have a deep or high voice etc. other usb mic options would probably be samson q2u, blue yeti nano, blue yeti. You can look up reviews for them, I like reviews from Podcastage.

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could also try a budget xlr setup possibly, but that would be a bit more complex

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I would honestly check out the q2u instead. i like it more and it cheaper @knotty cape

knotty cape
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Ok ty I'll check it out

thick plank
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@jovial scaffold thanks haha, from what I know the 660S are better than the 650 so i'm gonna mod the 58X, remove the foam and paper over the driver, and it should sound so close to the 660S
@brisk parcel this is actually wrong. They use the smaller driver and surrounding of the hd559 which is usually $70 to 90 just in the body of the 660. The reason some people believe this is because a poorly researched video from hw Canucks unfortunately.

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The materials used in the driver are also very different along with the membrane

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It is basically a 559 in a less comfortable housing and at a higher price. If possible I would recommend returning it and getting the 559 or paying slightly more to get an hd650 as they tend to go pretty on now that the 660s took over their price bracket and have been discounted a couple times

jovial scaffold
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Oh I see, you quoted a message that had a ping to me in it, which in turn pinged me again

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Confusing lol

thick plank
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595 is the same deiver as the 559 just the 595 has a plate glued on the housing to make it sound less open which is pretty easy to remove

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I actually modded mine today lol

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And its surrounded wirh more of a metal than a cloth substance along with a metal mesh behind the driver (which I recommend removing if possible)

brisk parcel
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you sure? I've even had the chance to compare these with the 650s and 660s that a friend owns, and they sound nearly identical to the 660s, which I prefer over the 650s. Even doing harmonic and acoustic measurements, they're within a margin of error of my friends' 660s

thick plank
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650 isnt the same either nor is it the same as the 58x

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Both are just all around better than the 58x lol

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As again the 58x uses the more low end driver of the 559

brisk parcel
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like I said before, I know the difference between them, but they still sound much better than the 559s to my ear

thick plank
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660s shares a driver with ethe hd800 if im not mistaken

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Then that is you brain tricking you

brisk parcel
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maybe it is, but then in this case I'm glad it's tricking me

thick plank
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Also the 650 and 660 are obviously going to sound vetter as they arent using that lower end driver

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And if using the 650 I recommend removing the foam back of the driver as it really hurts audio quality

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I did that mod to my 650 too lol

brisk parcel
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according to the page from drop itself, the 58Xs do in fact use their newer 150-ohm driver, not the one that the more aged 559 uses

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I've removed the foam and the paper over the driver, it sounds so close to the 660 it's not even funny, and I've listened to the 559s a lot, I used them for a few months

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these just have more

thick plank
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For starters the cloth isn't supposed to me removed and also doesnt cover the driver. Secondly the drivers aren't even the same size as the 660 driver even if we ignored changes in membrane shape and pattern and internal material

brisk parcel
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you're right, they're not the same size

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but that doesn't mean they don't sound so close

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I had the chance to listen, side-by-side, like I said

thick plank
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Except they also factually dont as they dont have the same frequency response or sound curve

brisk parcel
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I grabbed the 58Xs over the 6XXs since Zeos pointed out that they sound similar to the 660s than the 6XXs do to the 650s

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and since I prefer the 660s over the 650s, while the 650s are warmer, I went with the 58Xs

thick plank
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I own both the 559 (which now is a 595) and hd650 and none sound like the 660s at all

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Also, dont use zeos

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He is a laughingstock in the audiophile community with most people joking that he is deaf

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Because he hasn't given a single accurate description of a headset

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On the technical side or sound side

brisk parcel
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have you listened to the 58Xs though? read what people have said about it, while it LOOKS similar to the 559s, they sound nothing alike

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it even says on the product page itself that it uses the newer driver, while it's not the SAME one, it is based off of the newer driver

thick plank
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Again, they have the same frequency response and the same sound curve and are physically the same driver (the 58x and 559 that is). They are not physically the same as the 660s nor do they match up in either of those departments

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It isnt subjective

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You are experiencing the badder meinhof effect

merry sundial
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You are the Baader-Meinhof effect

thick plank
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...

brisk parcel
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who is

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me or him lmao

junior flower
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him

brisk parcel
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let me get you some charts

junior flower
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i dont need them

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its ok

brisk parcel
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oh it was for him

junior flower
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oh go ahead

brisk parcel
tight pulsar
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okay what does that even mean

junior flower
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"magic"

tight pulsar
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ah yes

brisk parcel
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what, the Baader-Meinhof effect?

tight pulsar
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no the graph

brisk parcel
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ah

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that's for tonal balance

thick plank
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@brisk parcel yep and for audio those are very different

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Showing one is much higher on bass and lower on highs

tight pulsar
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dunno man they look pretty similar

thick plank
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Most sennheiser hedsets follow that same shape @tight pulsar

brisk parcel
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let me find a chat comparing the modified 58Xs to the 559s

thick plank
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What matters is how high or low they are at points which those are opposites for

tight pulsar
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so is the blue one better on the first one or no

thick plank
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No

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It is much worse

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On both graphs

tight pulsar
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so you want it lower

thick plank
#

The hd600 is also a different driver than both and is also worse than the hd660s but also better than the hd559/58x

brisk parcel
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the other graph was an untouched pair of 58Xs

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very similar

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it's almost alughable

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laughable*

thick plank
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No, again for a frequency response graph that is not nearly the same

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It shows the 58x being much less balanced and dropping off really quickly for higher frequencies

brisk parcel
#

since you think I didn't do my homework, and about the graphs, it's worth noting that the S stands for (symetrical) in 660S, since it comes with a symetrical cable, the 58X does not

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which buying a symetrical cable is not nearly enough to make up for the price difference

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simply put, the 58Xs are DIFFERENT, they definitely are

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but VERY close to the 660S, so they're basically a poor man's 660S

thick plank
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They are completely different. About as different as you can get with a headset from the same company in the same chasis

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But theya re identical to something in every way

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The 559...

brisk parcel
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this is my first time getting into audiophile stuff, so of course I had to learn all this stuff and do research

thick plank
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They are not a poor man's 660 any more than the cheaper 559 is

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Which it is not

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As they sound completely different in both highs and lows

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And not in a good way

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The 559 are mainly for listening to types of bass driven music

brisk parcel
#

let me get charts for the 559s too then, since I clearly don't have a clue what i'm talking about

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the 559s even have a different impedance, and they don't even have the same frequency response

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you said the 559s are basically the 595s now?

thick plank
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They literally are other than a foam pad on the back

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It isnt a subjective thing

brisk parcel
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alright

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well unfortunately I can't find charts that compare them directly, so I have to dig a little deeper

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umm

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it appears that it is a subjective thing

thick plank
#

...

brisk parcel
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the 595s have a larger frequency response than your 559s

thick plank
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It really isnt

brisk parcel
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14 Hz to 26 kHz, for the 559s

thick plank
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It is physically the same driver for all 3 along with the same surrounding for the driver for all 3

brisk parcel
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12 Hz - 38.5 kHz, for the 595s

thick plank
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@brisk parcel that is because of how the foam pad slightly impedes some of the interaction between air and the driver

brisk parcel
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and wow would you look at that

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I remove the foam on my 58Xs and it makes no difference?

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but it does in your case suddenly?

thick plank
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The 58x doesn't have foam...

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The oval of cloth around the driver isn't supposed to be removed

brisk parcel
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it's literally foam

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do you want to see it>

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?*

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I can take a picture right now

thick plank
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Sure

brisk parcel
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Not even close to cloth dude

tight pulsar
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i see that trying to flex ur pc there

brisk parcel
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no I used it for the light

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so you can see the material

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my living room is dark at night lmao

thick plank
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Ah, you meant on the inside of the driver? That is meant to protect it and you should never remove that!

brisk parcel
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no

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the foam on the back of the grille

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you pop that grille off, and there's foam right there

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I removed that

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it helps to widen the soundstage, brings the sub-bass up more and leaves the trebles less constrained

thick plank
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I thought you removed the oval of cloth on the outside which in sennheiser's words has to do with the damping effect and keeping a consistent sound profile in different environments

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Also it doesn't do all that if jt is on the back of the grill

brisk parcel
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actually I noticed a pretty marginal difference

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my ears are fairly good

thick plank
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The reason the 559 modd matters is because it is a thick foam that blocks air completely and the 650 has a foam against the driver which restricts how it moves

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Clearly they are not quite as good as you thought as the effects you are describing would not occur from that change

brisk parcel
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the foam here is not much different from that, it dampens sound coming in from outside the headset by at least 10-15% more

thick plank
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No, that isnt what it does

brisk parcel
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well clearly it does if I can hear people much easier without the foam

thick plank
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As it is a thin foam and does not block air pressure changes in the headset and it doesn't press against the driver

brisk parcel
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but, without that foam it still allows the sound more freedom to travel

thick plank
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What that foam does is protect against stains and damage because the 559 driver is much more susceptible to that than the 650 driver

brisk parcel
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it 100% widened the soundstage, and I looked into that, it's not like I'm gonna be taking these anywhere

thick plank
#

...

brisk parcel
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for the mods watching I'm sure this is fun 😂

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seriously dude, I did plenty of homework on this

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I was torn between the 58Xs, 600s, 6XXs and 650s for over 2 months

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I went with the 58Xs as modding them would bring them closer to the 660S, but that's out of my price range

thick plank
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And again, you are objectively wrong on all the points you made but support them with anecdores which are also wrong...

brisk parcel
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dude I just graduated high school, I need to save for college, and really?

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charts don't lie

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I even gave you a PDF to back it all up

thick plank
#

The images you sent demonstrated how different they are and if im correct on what that pdf is from it also explains that it isnt the same driver at all nor is it even a similar sized driver or using the same shape or materials

brisk parcel
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this filter might help as well, the roll-off allowed the bass to extend into the mids more, and the treble could go higher without being over-bearing

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I never said they were the same driver

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I said they were based on the same driver, which they are

thick plank
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No, they arent

brisk parcel
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directly from the product page: "The HD 58X Jubilee uses Sennheiser’s new 150-ohm drivers, which require less amplification than previous driver platforms while retaining the same magnet strength and driver size. "

thick plank
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They are not the same in terms of material usage, driver size, membrane used, dampened material, dampener size, or dampener shape

brisk parcel
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so who do I believe

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you or sennheiser?

thick plank
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Sennheiser didn't make the product page on Massdrop and there are plenty of forums and discussions on how massdrop lied in the marketing and product page of the headset (and they dont have only one 150 ohm driver)

brisk parcel
#

I know they don't have only one driver, and where are these things saying that drop lied? I never found any of that in my months of research

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go onto the product page there and look at the graphs yourself, I don't want to waste my time putting them here, I will link the page for you though

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they compare to the 650s btw

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at least in the charts

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which are better than the 559

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they're not even considered in the same league as the 559 man

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you can say the 559 and 595 are the same, but from what i've seen from tonight alone, clearly they aren't

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foam around a driver doesn't affect frequency response

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and if so, that would be clearly reflected

#

give me a few mins to switch over to my phone please, if you want to even keep talking

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Alright I’m on my phone now, unless you have anything else to say I’m about done

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@west hornet you should love all this ^

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Just scroll up a ways, you’ll see where it starts

west hornet
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I have no clue what’s going on rn

junior flower
#

why would you specifically love this lol

west hornet
#

Charts lie? Well some people do test the frequency response of headphones themself and I don’t remember any reviewer babbling about how the charts were wrong. They are usually not exact but the one on product page would be average for it

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why would you specifically love this lol
@junior flower /shrug

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wow didn’t work, I feel like failure now

junior flower
#

i am a failure all the time

west hornet
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Failure club rise up

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Also this discussion kind of reminds me of sm57 vs sm7b. Although they are based on same capsule. By making some adjustments like a windscreen and a bit of eq you can get the 100usd sm57 to sound near the same as the ~400usd sm7b

brisk parcel
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I figured you would love it because you and I have always chatted about headphones

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I wish an audiophile role existed, I would take that for sure

west hornet
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Lol, roles for specific subjects you are into

brisk parcel
#

Exactly

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Hey man I only started doing this recently but man I love it

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It’s so interesting

west hornet
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In terms of modifying a hd58x idk much about and haven’t researched it yet so idk much

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I love to listen to music

brisk parcel
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I mean same here, but with good audio equipment too 😂

west hornet
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Hearing differences of gear is so cool. Listening to a soundtrack on speakers vs headphones can be such a difference it is so cool

brisk parcel
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And yeah I get it, I removed the foam and the paper over the driver and it does sound noticeably better and so close to the 660S, and YES I TOTALLY GET THAT

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I’ve done that before on quite a few things

west hornet
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I’ve been listening to the weathering with you soundtrack for 10+ hours love_it

brisk parcel
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Bruh 😂

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That’s a loooong time

west hornet
#

The only way to know for sure is trying both headphones on hand

brisk parcel
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Which I’ve done

west hornet
#

Some people just buy a lot of popular headphones for testing

brisk parcel
#

Yeah I’ve seen posts on that

west hornet
#

I know someone that has like 20+ mics and several interfaces XD

brisk parcel
#

Lmao that’s a lot of mics

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Imagine recording on all of them at once

west hornet
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Then you need a big boi interface

brisk parcel
#

Oh for sure

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But hey

#

Go big or go home

west hornet
#

There was a jz vintage mic on sale for 400. If I had money I would want it. Sounds so nice on guitar

brisk parcel
#

For the 58Xs to be my first personal pair of audiophile headphones, I’m very happy with them and ooh

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Guitar

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I had one, haven’t been able to get it fixed though

west hornet
#

Rip

brisk parcel
#

Yeah

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Tbh I need to learn more but it’s very difficult with my eyes

west hornet
#

I’m learning piano rn and hopefully learn the bazooki one day

brisk parcel
#

I have nystagmus, so they move back and forth on their own and it’s hard to stay focused so I can get off sometimes

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And oooh I would love to learn piano

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If I had one 😂

west hornet
#

It’s pretty fun, I have a pretty cheap keyboard

brisk parcel
#

I might do that honestly but I’m not sure

west hornet
#

Someone offered to give me a grand but I have no space to put it

brisk parcel
#

That’s money that I don’t have to spend right now

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BRUH I WISH

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I want a grand so bad

west hornet
#

Same

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I’m so sad there is no space in this place

brisk parcel
#

Same here, not with 7 people in my house 😂

west hornet
#

Plus my dad doesn’t like piano so he against it

brisk parcel
#

Ahh

#

That’s a big rip

west hornet
brisk parcel
west hornet
#

Speaking of piano I actually have to practice right now lol

brisk parcel
#

Alright go do that

west hornet
#

See ya Hi

brisk parcel
#

I’m gonna try and get some sleep, it’s almost 1 am for me

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Peace man

untold acorn
#

Is there any good keyboards in stock rn? (60% or higher)

thick plank
#

Sorry for the late response

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Was putting these images together

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Just to make what should be already a pretty clear fact by how far highs and lows were in the charts or if you actually read the pdf you sent even more clear...

merry sundial
#

So which of those should I buy to flex on internet discord nerds?

thick plank
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559 or 660s or the 650

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The 58x are just a more expensive 559

merry sundial
#

how's the massdrop 6xx

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I currently use an aging pair of ATH-m50x's

thick plank
#

It is just a repainted hd650

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Like it actually is the same part

merry sundial
#

I assumed so - but cheaper, yes?

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Hence the massdrop branding

thick plank
#

I mean usually but some sales on the 650 bring it to lower prices or about the same

merry sundial
#

Fair enough

thick plank
#

Which is worth it imo for the better paint finish and the better packaging tbh

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Although if you plan to repaint it that doesn't matter much lol

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I want to make mine a blue and purple theme

merry sundial
#

Are those closed back? My use case would prefer closed back.

thick plank
#

There is a closed back version of the 559

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I forgot the name

trim plover
#

Should I get the cloud 2 or artics 5

brisk parcel
#

Dude I’m telling you now they’re not the same driver

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I’ve used both extensively, and there is a major difference, both in sound quality and soundstage

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They don’t even look the same in the pictures you sent

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@untold acorn what’s your budget for keyboards?

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@trim plover tbh, if you have the money, I recommend the cooler master MH751 or MH752 instead

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The only difference is that the MH752 comes with the little DAC/AMP that has surround sound

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Sorry, I didn’t mean to say “if you have the money” they’re a very similar price

trim plover
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yea the budget is a $100

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I just ordered the hyper cloud 2

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I mean I could cancel it

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but I like the sound controls and etc

brisk parcel
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Ah alright, you won’t be disappointed by those either if you really want them

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I had cloud 2s for 3 and a half years before I got my new headphones

trim plover
#

are the cloud 2s good?

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I’ve seen a lot of pros use them

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especially csgo players

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and I’ve just never seen the cooler master brand

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as a headset

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so idk

brisk parcel
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Yeah they’re good, but my only thing about that is that, they’re marketed for “gaming” etc

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Long story short

trim plover
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I mean I’m not doing very serious gaming but I do play competitively

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I play valorant

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maybe fortnite sometimes

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idk

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or even modern warfare

brisk parcel
#

If you want to cancel the cloud 2s and try the cooler masters, they’re definitely a little higher quality for the money

#

Yeah yeah I get it no worries

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One thing about the cloud 2s though, they have better imaging with the surround turned OFF

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imaging is being able to tell directly where the sound is coming from

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If you have the time to watch these 2 videos I’m gonna send you, they’re about the cloud alpha, which is a slightly newer cloud 2, they use the same driver, and the MH 751/752

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You’ll be happy with either though, don’t worry

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After personally listening to both, I agree that the MH75Xs are better for the money, but both are good

trim plover
#

how long do you think the headset would last though

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since you’ve had it before

brisk parcel
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Well, it really depends

trim plover
#

Alright ima watch the video

brisk parcel
#

I put mine through very rigorous use for the years I had them, and the mic was going bad, not the mic itself, but since there’s no splitter for mic and audio, the mic connection in the cable was going bad

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So, as my friends put it, it sounds like posseidon was coming up out of the water, occasionally

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Depending on which way the cable was turned, etc

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But I could still hear fine with them

tight pulsar
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i have the cloud 2s and i can give the most unprofessional review if u want cause idk anything

trim plover
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so the mic got worse?

brisk parcel
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No, the quality of the mic stayed the same

trim plover
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are the cloud2s good though @tight pulsar

brisk parcel
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But the connection in the cable got lose, and I don’t know why

trim plover
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oh

brisk parcel
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And since it’s not a detachable cable, it’s hard to fix

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But like I said, you’ll be happy with them

tight pulsar
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theyre pretty good for gaming and music

brisk parcel
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They’re definitely one of the best for the money

tight pulsar
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but i got mine for free so i cant really complain about them :v

brisk parcel
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Watching those videos will help you out

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So I recommend you do that and come back to me

trim plover
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isn’t it like the takstar headphones

brisk parcel
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Yup

trim plover
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but they just added something

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lol

brisk parcel
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Exact same ones, but the earcups are slightly wider, to give the sound more room

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And it’s not like the logo on the side says “cooler master” either

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It’s just that little hexagon

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So if you wanted to use them for mobile listening, which I recommend since they’re great for music too, you can just detach the mic

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You can do the same for the cloud 2s though

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Alright just watch the vids I’ll be here 😂

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If you have a chance, and the budget sometime, I would pick up a pair of open-backs, they’re really something else

rotund oasis
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amazing mother board guys

untold acorn
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@brisk parcel my b i didnt check discord yesterday

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Im cool with anything under 200

thick plank
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Dude I’m telling you now they’re not the same driver
@brisk parcel and after everything shown so far that is a delusional statement in denial...

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@kenny ツ#9101 neither

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@kenny ツ#9101

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Why is it not working

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Also please stop using z reviews

split nimbus
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Kenny is gone

thick plank
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The guy is largely as much of a meme in the audio community as hw canucks is in the pc community

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The only difference is that the MH752 comes with the little DAC/AMP that has surround sound
@brisk parcel dac is to remove electrical noise and amps are just to supply power (different caps can effect noise output due to how they discharge)

split nimbus
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um

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DAC is digital to analog converter

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It converts digital to analog

thick plank
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This is why most cheap audio equipment uses electrolytic caps, useless audio equipment use solid caps, and high end stuff use film caps

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@split nimbus the point of a dac outside of your pc is to remove electrical noise. People dong get then because your pc is somehow incapabke of converting a signal

split nimbus
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By solid cap, do you mean ceramic?

thick plank
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There are many types of solid caps

split nimbus
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Is ceramic one of them?

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Or are they more like tantalum caps?

thick plank
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Well capacitors aren't just an insulator

split nimbus
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I understand what a capacitor is

thick plank
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Infact, the conductor material is about as important

split nimbus
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For the ESR and Z scores and such?

thick plank
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Aluminum polymer is one of the more common solid caps

split nimbus
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So not like the ceramics

thick plank
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Correct

split nimbus
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More along the line of tantalum

thick plank
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If you see mainly aluminum polymer cap for an amp generally that means it will sound bad

west hornet
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umm dac is to remove electrical noise? They can very much add noise if the manufacturer wanted. the point of it is to convert a digital signal to a analog signal headphones and speakers can read. you could get a external one to limit the interference coming in or even using a connection like optical to eliminate most of the noise from outside sources.

split nimbus
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The solid cap thing makes sense. Tantalum also has pretty bad frequency response, so I imagine aluminum would behave similarly

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The dac thing though is odd I agree

thick plank
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No, the purpose is not to add electrical noise in any instance... that is simply the result of bad design

west hornet
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it is not the purpose but if the manufacturer did choose it could very well be the purpose

split nimbus
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The purpose of a DAC is to take a digital signal and convert it to an analog voltage or current level

west hornet
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electrical noise is not the main function

thick plank
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It would be like saying tuting is designed to need larger dies to do the same work as pascal. That is simply the result of a poor int focused design and nvidia didnt consciously say we want to have a worse design

split nimbus
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Oh, I remember you now

west hornet
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it is one of the aspects of converting a signal you should look out for as you don't want a dac or amp spewing out more noise

split nimbus
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A digital signal is more immune to EMI as compared to an analog one. That might be why you thank the DAC removes noise

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That's one of the reason VGA cables degrade over distance

thick plank
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@west hornet which is why it isnt what manufacturers aim for and parts that see high effects from external electrical noise are just bad designs

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The manufacturer doesn't sit down and say "how can we have more unterfereence effect our signal"

split nimbus
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Actually, a good manufactuere will do just that

west hornet
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you buy a dac/amp to get the most out of the headphones you own. this could be in frequency response, clarity, depth, etc.

split nimbus
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If you can find paths for EMI to make its way in, you can block it

thick plank
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You dont want it effecting the actual analog signal as that will alter the sound to the headphones

neon quartzBOT
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fortnut#7992 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

thick plank
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Oof

split nimbus
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DAC will always affect the analog signal

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That's just the nature of DAC

thick plank
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No, the goal of a dac is to keep the signal integrity as perfect as possible with as little alteration as possible from the original sound

west hornet
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different dacs often have different signatures if you will. there are consumer dacs that generally have a bit of a warmer sound that is better for listening where many studio dacs in interfaces and such have a goal of keeping the signal as flat and accurate as possible so it depends on the use case

split nimbus
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But it will always affect the signal to some degree

west hornet
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another example is tube amps often have different unique sound signatures, so you don't buy one cuz it's good, you get it to suit your own ears

thick plank
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@west hornet actually that usually has more to do with the amp unless your dac is just doing s poor job converting the signal

west hornet
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it can do with both

thick plank
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Not unless you have a bad dac design

west hornet
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amps are mostly supposed to raise the level of the output while keeping the signal clean with least amount of noise

thick plank
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The amp however it is heavily dependent on due to how caps discharge to supply power for certain frequencies

split nimbus
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It also depends on the inductors, but the biggest thing is what sort of active component it uses

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A bipolar amp will sound very different than a mosfet amp for the exact same components in the rest of the circuit

thick plank
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The purpose of a mosfet for power delivery is to block the flow of electrons or let them pass by switching from an active or non active state... an amp doesn't need to block the signal as that would alter audio...

split nimbus
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um

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Okay then

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You just googled what a mosfet is, didn't you?

thick plank
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No, I study computer engineering and have known this since I was maybe 15?

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It isnt a complex topic lmfao

split nimbus
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I too study computer engineering, so I know that this is more electrical engineering than CEG.
That said, I probably have been working with breadboards and discrete components since I was 13 or so

west hornet
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one last thing i might add is audio is highly subjective to the person. We can talk about electrical differences all day but in the end it comes to how it sounds to you. the best way to know the differences is to simply hear it for yourself.

split nimbus
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Yeah

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The mosfet deal is mostly calling fortnut's bluff. If you want to have high signal fidelity, you're going to want to have a veryhigh, ideally infinte, input impedence. mosfet's have that, and that's why they're used for opamps and rc circuits.

west hornet
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it's like the magni 3+ and heresy from schiit, the heresy is a op amp that measures slightly better but they both sound identical.

split nimbus
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Yeah

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Frankly, I think the "perfect fidelity" circuits sound kinda cold, I like there to be a little bit of distortion or non-linearity or whatever in there to warm things up

west hornet
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exactly why measurements don't always matter, in the end it's what you like 🙂

split nimbus
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Same reason I like AM over FM I guess. FM just sounds harsh

thick plank
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Just got back and I will admit that was my mistake (on not realizing why they would be needed)

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The main reason for sound difference on tube amps however is more because they are higher impedence (which results in compromise if used for output)

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It isnt that they are supplying a different sound, it's just a design needs to be tweaked to accommodate the worse impedance

split nimbus
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Yeah, output impedence is a whole nother issue

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If you're dealing with high power stuff, you can actually burn out your amp if you have mismatched impedences

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Never seen it happen, but heard reports

brisk parcel
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@thick plank I know what a DAC and an AMP is

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My sound blasterX G6 acts as both, and btw, you forgot about DSP

thick plank
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They dont effect the sound stage as that has to do more with the headset

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Actually entirely

merry sundial
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Since no DAC is perfect, different designs and constructions will impart their own nuance to their analog output signal.

brisk parcel
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I’m getting a Schiit modi and magni here soon, and I prefer my 58Xs on those over my G6, although the filter option on the G6 is a very nice added bonus

thick plank
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Not this again...

brisk parcel
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And I agree with Chopsticks, it all depends on what the manufacturer wants to achieve, and what the end user wants for their ears

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And what do you mean “not this again”

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While my G6 can drive up to 600 ohms, it doesn’t provide the warmth that the modi and magni will

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I considered a tube amp honestly, but that’s not something my budget can afford right now

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I can’t even afford the modi and magni atm, I’m waiting, but they will be my end choice for sure

merry sundial
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I'd guess a tube amp would have a higher THD vs a similar class D amp built with semiconductor based switching components.

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But might have a "warmer" feel

brisk parcel
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Yeah, from what I’ve heard and researched, tubes have a “warmer” feel

west hornet
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I am mildly intrigued by tube amps, but it is something i would have to listen to on hand

brisk parcel
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It depends on the type of tube obviously, and not each tube of the same type is similar

thick plank
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That again is because they are higher impedance which makes powering bass harder if they are incorporated in a design and not adjusted for

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Not because they are better for highs or mids or some odd reasoning like that

brisk parcel
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Since tubes have an overall warmer feeling, some could argue that depending on the cans you’re using, the warmer feeling could influence how the mids and highs sound

west hornet
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Im not sure i would say quite warmer. but tube amps you really have to listen to on hand

thick plank
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Again, that isnt what is happening. The sound appears "warmer" because they are higher impedance and bass is harder to power with them if you have a bad amp design that doesn't accommodate them

fierce nova
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is sound warmer near volcanoes?

west hornet
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Yes love_it

thick plank
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It is not improving mids or highs in any way nor is it an automatic characteristic of the tube transistors

west hornet
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sounds very pretty when you take a dip in

brisk parcel
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@west hornet I agree, I’ve only listened to the Schiit Vali 2(is that how it’s spelled) and one other that for the life of me I can’t remember the name

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But I don’t consider the Vali 2 to be a real tube amp

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I definitely noticed that the tubes gave a warmer feeling

brisk parcel
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I can’t check right now I’m on my phone, Service is bad

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Ah thanks

fierce nova
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I totally thought you were memeing that name

brisk parcel
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Lmao

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Sorry

west hornet
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lol

split nimbus
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It is a rather unfortunate name

fierce nova
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don't apologize, that's a great name for a company and product.

west hornet
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I love schiit just for that

fierce nova
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I bet it gets really sweaty in the summer.

split nimbus
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"Buy our products! We're Schiit!"

west hornet
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They are a hilarious company

split nimbus
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And when you are annoyed by bad audio equipment, what will you think of?

west hornet
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💩

split nimbus
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"This stuff is ****! Hey! Maybe I should try Schiit!"

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That is wonderful marketing

fierce nova
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Schiit for God Emperor

brisk parcel
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@untold acorn I would check out really any of Corsair's lineup, steelseries has good options too

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most high-end KBs don't really go higher than $200 to begin with

oak ore
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can u guys fix my logitech g910

split nimbus
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Wha's wrong wi't

oak ore
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taking apart sitches

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broke off one of the pieces underneath the sitch

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my uu key is messed

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vv

sharp fjord
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w key?

split nimbus
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What part exactly?

oak ore
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theres 2 plastic pieces and a spring

sharp fjord
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on a keyboard?

oak ore
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logitech g910

split nimbus
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You took apart the whole switch?

oak ore
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it broke off

split nimbus
oak ore
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yes

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theres spring

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took it apart to clean it lol

split nimbus
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I see

oak ore
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tiny little blue plastic hooks broke off but

split nimbus
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That switch probably is a gonner. Best bet is a replacement

oak ore
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i can get the piece back on there but it doesnt seem right

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ith the spring

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the key just gets stuck

sharp fjord
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if its broken you will have to replace it, which is why i shared the above. if its fixable i wouldn't know how to help you there 🤷‍♂️

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you said the part that broke is the blue part irght

oak ore
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tiny blue hook on blue part

split nimbus
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If the little hooks broke off, it probably won't hold together right

oak ore
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attached to plastic on board

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yeah they did

sharp fjord
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yeah youll probably just have to replace it

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oh wait what i shared doesnt include the blue part hold on

oak ore
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i think the black plastic piece broke off board too

split nimbus
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It might be time for a new keyboard then

sharp fjord
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if you broke part of the keyboard itself then youll probably have to buy a new one unless that one falls under warranty and you can return it to logitech

oak ore
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they alrdy gave me a free one

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lol

sharp fjord
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is that the free one or do you have another now?

oak ore
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thats the free one lol

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other one is throvvn out lol

sharp fjord
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see if they will RMA that one. but they might not cause it falls under user error 🤷‍♂️ might be worth a shot

oak ore
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vvorth a shot lol

hollow pond
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I've bought a vertical mouse Chef_Kiss

astral hinge
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@hollow pond no

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why

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bad

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how much did you spend, return it, get a real mouse

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I have like 10 vertical mouses in my dad's storage closet

hollow pond
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Then send me one wuuut

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My carpal tunnel was peaking Chef_Kiss

west hornet
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@knotty cape sorry for ping, you asked about hyperx quadcast. I just wanted to mention that elgato came out with a mic that looks very interesting about the same price called the elgato wave

knotty cape
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ill check it out

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ty

west hornet
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np

swift lantern
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can anyone tell me if I should even bother gettting more expensive earbuds

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considering I likely wouldn't get to use them with an amp, just plugged into phone

hazy fiber
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Sound quality, nice features like built in assistant, sound canceling

hollow pond
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It's not even baddd

little crater
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i have a friend who uses that mouse

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he says he really likes it

brave oak
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is a newer wifi adapter for a pc compatible with and older model router?

faint helm
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could anyone please recommend a DisplayPort to HDMI cable that's guaranteed to support 4K @ 60Hz ? 🙇‍♂️

brisk parcel
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@swift lantern what did you have now? And what’s your budget for new earbuds?

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What do*

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@me back with your response please

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I’m doing lots of stuff and I’ll forget

swift lantern
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@brisk parcel Rn I have some $20 Philips hifi, they do 12hz-40khz they're pretty alright. Not looking to spend more than $75 ideally...

brisk parcel
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Alright, let me see if I got something you might like

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In my repitoir of things I’ve listened to

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I recommend the Fiio F5s if you can find them anywhere, but the 1more triple drivers are almost the same quality, and IMO the best under $100