#peripherals-and-displays

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snow briar
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They are peak wireless atm

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But they suck at the same time

pale cosmos
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He ain't lyin

snow briar
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Source: I’ve owned all of them

obsidian cypress
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Why so many headphones?

snow briar
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They don’t go bad (besides the apple)

pale cosmos
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Darvan changes heads often

snow briar
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Change out ear pads

pale cosmos
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So he needs extras

snow briar
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True

pale cosmos
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See his name

obsidian cypress
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So realistically what are my options within $200 or should I wait and get a nice headphone with a nice dac.

pale cosmos
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D a r v a n

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One for every day of the week

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D for weekends

pale cosmos
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Otherwise Seeny game ones

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Or PC38X

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Or HD560S

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HD599S

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HD6xx

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DT's are good if you have a DAC+AMP

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Topping would provide for that

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Same with hifimans

snow briar
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ATM my dad is using my fiio amp dac and my 990s, I’m maining my 6xx’s and stack. My brother has some Bose wireless and the pair of porta pros

pale cosmos
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Fiio also good

obsidian cypress
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any difference between HD599 and HD599 SE?

snow briar
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Ones special

pale cosmos
snow briar
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Like me

pale cosmos
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I can't even make the joke first rn

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I have an echo

snow briar
obsidian cypress
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?

pale cosmos
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Don't worry about it

snow briar
pale cosmos
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Just pick from above lol

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Trying out the koss would be really good imo

snow briar
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Pc38x is great

pale cosmos
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You can return if you hate the koss

snow briar
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I haven’t owned a pair of pc38x’s

pale cosmos
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I think portas and KSC75's are really good overall for the price

snow briar
pale cosmos
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More or less anyway

snow briar
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Okay I’m gunna buy them

pale cosmos
snow briar
pale cosmos
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Actually used Game one's plus a used decent DAC+AMP is possible maybe

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If you could get the DAC+AMP for like $110

obsidian cypress
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  • $200 AKG K 701 Ultra
  • $179 DT990 Pro
  • $111 HD599 SE
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these are my top 3 options currently from what I can find on Amazon between $80-200.

pale cosmos
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Have you looked on other websites like drop.com

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Ah, too hungry, time up for me

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Pick on what you feel comfortable with but I will warn that the DT's you really want a DAC+AMP

obsidian cypress
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I prefer using Amazon due to no delivery fee, and good return policy experience.

pale cosmos
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Never bind yourself to one store that's how you miss sales

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Anyway cya

obsidian cypress
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Every time I haven't used Amazon I have been met with late deliveries and have been burned.

obsidian cypress
snow briar
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Akg’s are good 👍

obsidian cypress
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Just 1 left. free delivery and 57% off at $200.

snow briar
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KEKNervous never used em but I’ve never heard bad things

obsidian cypress
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Would a Dac/amp be recommend for the AKG K 701?

obsidian cypress
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considering this one as a decent cheap solution

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If you guys think this is fine then I will probably order first thing when I wake up

ashen crater
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those akgs could be run off a mobo

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also modern dacs on mobos are suprisingly competent nowadays with some proper tuning

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audiophiles at this range are like a religion lol, everyone has their own distinct pov on whats the right thing for top end cans

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schiit is a great choice for some "cheaper" combos

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but yeah no at this range its kinda like comparing 360fps to 480fps, unless the device youre running off of cant handle the device on its own, dacs are kind of just like sprinkling some oregeno on your spaghetti

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except that oregeno costs as much as gold flake covered caviar

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i will however say id recommend trying to see if you can get a pair of hd600 at that price range used or just grab a hd6xx, Sennheiser at this range is just a beast

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with both of these you would absolutely need an amp tho lol

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theyre all great options

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none of these are true reference tho, youd be multiple Ks in debt to get true reference cans + proper set up

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these akgs have a bit of a weak bass (open backs moment) but very clear top end, while the 6xx have a better bass that i think are a bit overtuned but very good, and not as clear of a sparkle but still a strong top end. However, the 600 if you can grab them used around 200-250 are BEASTS at this price range for reference.

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if you want to save money tho just grab the akgs, you wont regret it

pale cosmos
dapper adder
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i've very rarely had late deliveries

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from any courier

pale cosmos
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I've had missing deliveries, busted deliveries, even incorrect deliveries

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Even duplicate deliveries

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Amazon CS deserves credit for putting a customer first but that doesn't mean you should willingly spend $50 more on their article instead of a competitor

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Not that it's common but, it does happen

ashen crater
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my 8bitdo 2c came 3 months late

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w/ amazon

pale cosmos
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Both Koss boxes I ordered off amazon turned up crushed

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Thankfully the device was fine

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In both cases

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I once ordered a cooking pot and received two

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One next door the other 10 days later

ashen crater
pale cosmos
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Nothing stops a bad delivery driver in your area just being an ass

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Yes that's mostly my point

ashen crater
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what courier was it through

pale cosmos
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Usually my bad deliveries come from a group called couriers please

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But it's not exclusive to them

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I've had bad star track, aus post, DHL

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All of them

ashen crater
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here where i live thankfully ive never had a package turn up busted

pale cosmos
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I've rarely had to return anything

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And normally my deliveries are good

ashen crater
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ive had to return a couple things, only for defects tho on cheaper items

pale cosmos
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Ya

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And even in perfectly normal situations the product is just defective

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I've had that in particular with kitchen items off amazon

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Bad finishes are really common

ashen crater
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i live next to the worlds largest knife store and their kitchen section is huge ( i also worked there so i have coworkers there who still let me use their discounts lol)

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its like a 20% discount

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so thankfully i dont have to deal with that until i move lol

pale cosmos
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I've had the whole gamut really

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I've had defective cables from amazon

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A LOT of them

ashen crater
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omg defective cables are the worst

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why are such a necessary product so easily the ones that get messed up the most

pale cosmos
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But similarly like, every place I've ever bought tech from I've had a defect issue at some point

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Every single one

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Even when I pick up the device from the counter

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Still happens kekw

ashen crater
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murphys law moment

pale cosmos
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Yes exactly

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Hence my point, over trusting a single store leads you to just overspending

ashen crater
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honestly that goes for so much more in general

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dont trust single sources

dapper adder
ashen crater
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3 pot coming soon?

pale cosmos
ashen crater
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@pale cosmos

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Shes enjoying the keyboard as much as me lmao

pale cosmos
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Does she make the sound

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Clack clack

ashen crater
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I mean

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Kind of

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Its more gravelly

pale cosmos
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crrrack crrrack

ashen crater
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She would be defective at that point kekw

dapper adder
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sorry sat on the box

thick garden
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same. no manners with my airpods

dapper adder
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ah yes

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real airpods

ashen crater
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The realest of airpods

obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
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I have a MSI X670-P Wifi board

ashen crater
obsidian cypress
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dac worthy?

ashen crater
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Just grab the cans

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Dont worry about a dac

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Like i said, spend 1k on your headphones and maybe a dac could be a nice addition

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Your headphones arent even reference, it wouldnt make a noticable difference on a competent mobo

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And thats a competent mobo

obsidian cypress
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reference?

ashen crater
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Or per their recording setup

obsidian cypress
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Gotcha.

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So just nab the AKG K701 and see if I want a dac later? Can I adjust the bass/treble without a dac?

ashen crater
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You can go into your settings on your phone and adjust them

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That's basic tuning

obsidian cypress
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phone?

ashen crater
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All a dac does is maybe pick up some extra details

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Not $100+ worth on 200 dollar headphones

ashen crater
obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
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gotcha.

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Alright. I am gonna just purchase the headphones and try them out on their own then.

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Thank you.

ashen crater
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Still absolutely worth the money tho

ashen crater
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Theyre still amazing headphones

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A dac+amp setup is overkill

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And the only ones worth buying for the effect you want would be the price of the headphones for like an extra 5% of the quality

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if that

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Probably closer to 2%

obsidian cypress
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That sum it up?

ashen crater
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Pretty much. Amp lets you run headphones with a high impedance (need a lot of energy to run), those akgs arent intensive to run (doesnt mean theyre bad they just dont burn through power), a dac just converts the signal to the headphones as cleanly as possible. Modern mobos do a great job of this compared to older stuff which is why dacs were popularized

obsidian cypress
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Thank you for the explanation.

ashen crater
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A dac amp setup would be necessary if for example you wanted to plug your headphones into a nintendo switch for example

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Maybe just amp

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Basically the audio from the switch to the headphones will be quieter

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The higher the impedence, quieter the sound because the device cant fully power it on its own

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Doesnt effect sound quality directly

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Just means you dont have as high of a max volume

ashen crater
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Maybe more like a 3ds kekw

glass bear
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are the galaxy buds fe supposed to be that much worse than the buds 3 pro?

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it sounds silly as a question I know

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i got the buds fe for $28 through samsung so i gave them a shot

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it genuinely sounds like im underwater or something in comparison

gaunt forge
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uh

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kinda...as far as I've seen from family they're really bad

white flame
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The FE are supposed to be a more neutral sound than the usual bassy ones. You can always do an EQ to boost the bass if that's your thing.

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The reason you got them cheap is just that they're an older model now and they don't have all the newest features

glass bear
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my problem with the fe is that the sound is muddy, the bass is pretty overpowering

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found out online its because they have a single driver for everything, so the bass can be overpowering

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gave them to my mom as an extra birthday gift, she likes them

rancid oxide
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@neon root sorry to ping you. ily.
I've come to realize that I need a "harder" surface as a mouse pad to keep my sanity. I picked up a cheapo $5 one at biglots today and I'm super enjoying it over my softer ones. I was wondering if you had any recommendations on some good mouse pads that had a harder surface?

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the "clothy" types seem to collect everything and I can feel it and it bugs me. So much that it's all I can think about as I move my mouse over it. I've tried every to try and keep it from happening, but no matter how clean I keep it.. There is always that something that gets on there.

neon root
rancid oxide
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Wheras with the cloth pads. I'm literally trying to brush off whatever at least every 15 min

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I also have a can of air that keep right here to try and blow whatever it is off as well. Idk if it's actually something on there or if it's the feeling of my hand brushing across the cloth surface, but it's a constant thing in my mind. I actually haven't had it in my mind at all since using this new pad. Which is why when I realized I was having a better time with it, I immediatly pinged ya

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I don't eat at my desk so I know it's not food crumbs. I constantly blow my desk off (which admittedly is probably due to the mousepad issue)

neon root
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you shed any hair or have any pets?

rancid oxide
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No and yes, but my dog has black hair that I never see anywhere on my desk

neon root
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also you can try just a better mousepad or a mousepad that offers different firmness and probably a better weave so stuff brushes off a bit more easily

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unless its just straight up a texture thing that you dont like the feel of your mousepad

rancid oxide
neon root
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might just be a texture thing then if there really is no hairs or dirt getting on the pad derpyBlob

rancid oxide
neon root
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tried brushing off the pad onto something white or something thatll make it easy to see if anything comes off the pads?

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if it does come down to a texture thing, then probably one of those like half gloves that artists use for their tablets would help

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or a hard/glass pad that doesnt have a coarse texture like a cloth pad does

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or just a smoother pad

rancid oxide
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I'm not opposed to glass

neon root
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oop, was gonna suggest tjexclusive's cera pad since theyre only like $30 usd if you dont mind the small size, otherwise more expensive for a larger size

rancid oxide
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Texture thing makes a lot of sense. Because it would seem like after I wipe or dust-offed and even wiped down with ISO, I would still feel whatever it is, but it was intermittent. So like sometimes after I brushed and cleaned it would be fine for a little while, other times it made no difference.

rancid oxide
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I don't mind spending $ for quality and my sanity xD

neon root
rancid oxide
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this hard pad was an impulse buy while we were at Big Lot's closing sale. Which it was a very good impilse buy

neon root
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free shipping US if you live here in the us

rancid oxide
neon root
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their smallest size is too big still?

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355 x 305 for the cerapad kin

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guess it also depends on how large that keyboard tray is as well

rancid oxide
neon root
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at least you have tape measures. i use how many of my phones can fit in the space and then look up the length of my phone derpyBlob

neon root
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that 355x305 is 14x12

rancid oxide
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hmm. I could have it hang over the back by an inch... but.. Do they have some sort of feet?

neon root
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ye, forgor if theyve updated them to a full backing or if its still just 4 squares in the corners

rancid oxide
neon root
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oop

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the 2 other options, zara and kiah which are the secondcheapest are oos for their small sizes as well

rancid oxide
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speed or whatever is a nonissue. If I need to raise my dpi, I'm totally fine with that. I'm already at 2400 with my razer

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I still often raise sensitivity in games. Although idk if games override windows mouse speed by default.

neon root
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@rancid oxide oop, forgor this company exists. i havent tried them out but its $30 and probably like $10 in shipping but its a hard and smooth surface

https://www.lethal.gg/products/xten-hard-speed-small

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oop. $14 in shipping, total is $47 for me at checkout

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13 x 11 inch

rancid oxide
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I appreciate the recommendations.

oak jungle
rancid oxide
high badge
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If I had to guess the cloth material started having little fiber bundles on top that you felt

obsidian cypress
rancid oxide
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I thought it was possibly deteriorated mouse pad so I bought a new one and had same issue out the box. I have several different pads from different companies and each one feels the same. Like the cloth itself feels different, but the feeling of "crumbs" is still there.

dapper adder
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maybe you're a cookie

rancid oxide
dapper adder
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You're turning into crumbs

pale cosmos
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He's crumbling under pressure

queen sigil
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internet people what switch do i put in new keyboard

white flame
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What are you wanting the switch to sound/feel like

queen sigil
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idc brah im just seeing what switches people like atm

white flame
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If I were to build a keeb right now I'd probably do MX speed silver. Fairly cheap for that performance level.

queen sigil
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hell nah next suggestion

daring zenith
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return to u4t

queen sigil
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too lazy

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i aint lubing switches ever again

daring zenith
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you don't have to lube them

tight pulsar
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ergo clears

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finally resoldered the keys on my cypher that were flaky are really like the switches

queen sigil
tight pulsar
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bruh

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they've been goated for a decade

queen sigil
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i ain’t paying mx prices in 2025

tight pulsar
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i'm so out of the hobby what has happened in the last year or two

timber ridge
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i took a quick glance of the switches about 2 years ago and there was crazy names

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you can only do so many combinations with switch materials etc

neon root
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glass switches

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with carbon fiber springs

ashen crater
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Jello switches

white flame
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Isn't carbon fiber generally brittle? That would make an awful spring

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I also can't imagine the scratching sound that glass would make

dapper adder
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technically you can make a spring out of glass and it's also brittle

white flame
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That doesn't mean it's a good spring

dapper adder
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lmao

neon root
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nah glass and carbon fiber are the biggest things for gaming mice and keyboards

white flame
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Glass skates maybe. Can you imagine a glass body mouse lol

neon root
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glass pad with glass skates on my glass mouse with its glass cable

white flame
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Fiber optic cable would be nice

pale cosmos
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@dapper adder @daring zenith is the alc4080 supposed to sound decent?

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I tried the ksc's on it in my new case and...

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It sounds

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Kinda good?

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Tf

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Normally I can tell the onboard audio but maybe it's the choice of case cable to the front header?

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I can't work it out it sounds really good rn for some reason LOL

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Maybe I'm just really tired or something

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Been working constantly on the setup through the last couple months

daring zenith
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Uh I have not looked at sound chips past alc1220, maybe they've gotten good now...?

pale cosmos
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1220 is the same as 4080 but chipset instead of direct

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Idk I did just update to a new driver

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And I nuked nahimic off it

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Maybe that was what was needed?

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It sounded...really good

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I'm sure not perfect but a long way from what I remember

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Maybe it's the ksc's

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Can't work it out...

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Lol

obsidian cypress
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AKG finally confirmed the order for the headphones! Expected to arrive January 16th.

snow briar
thorn grove
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@neon roottempted to order a artisian zero

thorn grove
neon root
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just get soft if you dont know what to get

pale cosmos
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@daring zenith @dapper adder Tried my dac side by side

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I actually don't think I'm crazy

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Which is really odd cos I DEFINITELY noticed the difference when I first upgraded

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To the DAC+AMP

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Maybe something about my setup is running really well rn? The audio sounds like, unusually good from the ALC4080

daring zenith
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With just ksc75 or with anything else?

pale cosmos
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Haven't got out my HD's to try yet but the KSC's yeah

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Lol

dapper adder
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lmao

pale cosmos
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Lol

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On the KSC's I can't tell, but my senny's sound worse on the realtek vs the DX3+

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I think the KSC's actually sound better in this situation which is weird kekw

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Oh god

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This is so

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BLEH

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Tf LOL

plush atlas
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Koss cult

frail shell
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What is a good quiet keyboard and mouse (Bluetooth). that doesn't break the bank?

queen sigil
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depends how big ur bank is

frail shell
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Not that big haha, just had a baby. Those things suck your bank account. Look at max 100. I know logi has some quiet ones around 40. But don't know the quality

ashen crater
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G305 is pretty good in terms of quality, not really the quietest tho

ashen crater
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If you dont like the keyboard style i could recommend a couple more

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Its also not hotswap if you care about that

frail shell
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I don't care too much about hotswap. I would like a quiet keyboard. So I'll have to look and see how this one is

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Thank you!

ashen crater
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Id also recommend looking at some of the razer deathadders too

obsidian cypress
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I am loving these!!!

AKG 701

obsidian cypress
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@ashen crater should I plug my new headphone into my motherboard or my Microphone? My mic is the Razer Siren V2 Pro. Motherboard is MSI X670 Pro WiFi

queen sigil
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motherboard

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or just buy a cheap dongle

obsidian cypress
ashen crater
obsidian cypress
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alc4080?

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Is that the audio chip I assume?

ashen crater
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onboard audio ye

obsidian cypress
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good or?

ashen crater
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good

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leave it be

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it has proper drivers from what ive heard

obsidian cypress
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Gotcha. couple things I have noticed so far with these headphones

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  1. EXCELLENT CLARITY (I have used other +500$ headphones from friends but none sounded this clear)
  2. Great highs and mids but lows are not as punchy as mentioned
  3. The band fits perfectly on my head but the ear cups are rather stiff
  4. The overall build quality feels solid albeit I wish the heads were metal though that'd make them way to heavy
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My only complaints are that the ear cups are a bit stiff and that if the headphone cable gets damaged I have no way of fixing it

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the unpacking experience ofo these were awesome. every thing felt like I was opening up the next best thing and felt really exclusive with the way the headphones were displayed in the box and how the interior was lined with felt and etc

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I might look into a dac though because they sound a bit quiet at times and I'd like to boost the bass a little bit.

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actually hold up, just realized my Deezer audio was set to 50%

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nevermind these are way more than loud enough lmao

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I take back what I said about volume

obsidian cypress
ashen crater
obsidian cypress
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gotcha

ashen crater
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Also you should check warranties and stuff with the cord

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Some have proper coverage

obsidian cypress
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Doubt it means much to most but knowing each K701 headphone is labeled with their own unique number feels nice

obsidian cypress
ashen crater
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Lol i get that feeling yeah

obsidian cypress
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Not sure how true this is but I read somewhere each K701 headphone is hand tested and assembled.

ashen crater
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I dont know too much about that personally, but i do love akgs general quality control

obsidian cypress
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Great headphones though I don't think I'd pay $550 for them on a normal day haha. at $200 these are a snag imo from this experience

ashen crater
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Also speaking of build quality, for that price its honestly a miracle it doesnt have many shortcuts either, youd be surprised how many expensive headphones cheap out on frames, even on high end planar stuff

obsidian cypress
ashen crater
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Still great for the price regardless

obsidian cypress
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I used to have a couple of limited edition Xiaomi Dragon headphones

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those were great but the build quality felt iffy.

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$400 approximately

ashen crater
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Ive been rocking a cheaper pairs of pc38x, theyre plastic frames but for 140$ they are stupidly comfy and have great drivers

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Price ≠ quality

obsidian cypress
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those are now what about 10 years old? unfortunately some kids at school a while back had the great idea of messing with them and snapped the headband in half

obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
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those headphones were among the early wireless headphones that actually had pretty solid sound quality and excellent battery.

ashen crater
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Regardless, hope you have fun with your new headphones, being able to notice little details and stuff you never could hear in music is one of my favourite things with nice headphones

obsidian cypress
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their fun perk is that they have a built in voice mod

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it was made for kareoke

ashen crater
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Bluetooth is stupidly expensive to match a fraction of corded

obsidian cypress
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lmao yes

ashen crater
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You can spend 800 dollars on bluetooth headphones that would match the quality of $200 corded

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cough sony

obsidian cypress
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Yeah from a quality standpoint I'd say they traded blows with my Blackshark

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despite being bluetooth which shocked me

ashen crater
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I do hope good cans get more accessible as time goes on, awful headphones are way too plentiful now even despite the fact headphone audio quality has been pretty much perfected for decades now

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Theres a reason old high end headphones still match extremely high end stuff today

obsidian cypress
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feels weird using over ear

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I am so used to closed back headphones

ashen crater
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Oh yeah open back over ears are by far the best audio quality headphones offer

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Doesnt make you feel like youre trapped in an echo chamber

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Only thing it hurts is bass

obsidian cypress
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so sometimes I get nauses from the music playing for so long

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haven't had that so far

ashen crater
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Youd be surprised how much it helps ear health too

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Closed backs are more prone to infections

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All that humidity build up is awful for your ears

obsidian cypress
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interesting, I upped the volume and the bass is now surprisingly as punchy as my blacksharks without the echo effect

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albeit the highs and mids are also much more noticable now

ashen crater
obsidian cypress
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reference?

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oh like how a artist intended a song to sound?

ashen crater
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Yup

thorn grove
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Hmm

hearty trellis
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What are some good keebs under 100 bucks

pale cosmos
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Bridge75

dapper adder
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Dell oem keyboard frfr

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Jk

hearty trellis
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Which version?

hearty trellis
pale cosmos
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The plus

hearty trellis
pale cosmos
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Oof

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Yeah not really worth then lol

rancid oxide
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Don't get the Z20.

hearty trellis
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I'm trying to step away from them a bit

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The aula f75 is really nice

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But I don't want to pay 25 bucks shipping on a 70 dollar keeb

rancid oxide
hearty trellis
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I'm just saying it's ultra targeted at gamers

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And if you're talking about the aula

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Enjoy

rancid oxide
rancid oxide
# hearty trellis Enjoy

I'm so used to hall sensor switches now that idk if I could go with a traditional mech keeb

hearty trellis
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Cheap hall effect but I don't know if I'd want to go there

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They released an aluminium version for around 90 bucks

rancid oxide
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68 Pro?

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What's a wireless keeb like? Is there a noticable latency in keystokes compared to wired?

hearty trellis
hearty trellis
rancid oxide
hearty trellis
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But nothing noticeable

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Wireless mice have gotten so good they're practically better than wired

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So id hope that applies with the keyboards too

rancid oxide
hearty trellis
rancid oxide
hearty trellis
slate basin
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I spilled a bit of smoothie on my keyboard and I unplugged it immediately, cleaned it out and when I plugged it back in the inputs were mostly wrong and the spacebar acted as enter, and hitting windows key a few times pulled up the control alt delete menu, and then a little bit later it was flashing with the hotkeys I had entered a while ago. the keyboard is royal kludge rk61. I plugged in my old keyboard and it was fine
what should I do to fix it?

hasty quail
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What did you use to clean it, and how long did you leave it to dry before you plugged back in?

dapper adder
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the biggest issue of spilling liquids that arent water is that it gums up the contacts and such

slate basin
slate basin
dapper adder
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depends

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"cleaning" it could have also made it worse

daring zenith
slate basin
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thanks

cobalt wagon
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what is a good keyboard for 70 dollars

fleet otter
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can someone help i’m confused , so I want the beyerdynamic DT 990 pro 250 OHM , so do i need an amp , mixer and , microphone with it for it to be suitable for gaming?

ashen crater
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Gaming isnt really important there, youd just need an amp for that much impedance, but id recommend a DAC in that setup too

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Microphone just depends on your usecase

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If you just want a mic you can get something cheaper like this https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Microphone-Condenser-Streaming-Youtube-A6T/dp/B09Q2ZZGH2/

queen sigil
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maybe if ur a fortnite streamer stuck in 2016 then sure

obsidian cypress
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Status update on the K701 from AKG. Spatial Imaging is alarmingly good and the clarity is impeccable. Audio quality is no slouch either.

My only wishes are 2 things:

  1. Softer earmuffs, while these are getting softer they are still quite stiff

  2. I think an amp would be a good idea for them as they can be a little quiet at times though that's mostly just me. More than loud enough for the average joe.

high badge
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Is there any significant difference between these sensors other than the polling rate?

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they'd all go into the same mouse, so everything else is identical

obsidian cypress
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not quite

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obsidian cypress
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Oh okay.

high badge
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so I'm asking whether going 4k would matter whatsoever

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I distinctly remember that higher polling rate mice increase CPU load

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but that's all I know really

obsidian cypress
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iirc it has something to do with how many times it updates your input per frame generated.

dapper adder
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Are you a gamer

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Competitive

obsidian cypress
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Me?

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Or

dapper adder
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Blackhole

obsidian cypress
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Ah.

dapper adder
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If not, then just stick with 1k honestly

obsidian cypress
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i forgot, did I tell you I got the pc to work again @dapper adder?

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Thanks for the tip on letting it train for a long while

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The thing took about 40m to train and had to do it a few times

dapper adder
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was it me?

obsidian cypress
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You were heating up your car last night iirc

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Oh I got people mixed up.

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🤦‍♂️

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To many names to remember.

dapper adder
obsidian cypress
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I misremembered NotDarvan for iGetMen somehow

dapper adder
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Lmao

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Not even the same colour role

high badge
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most I'd do is CS

obsidian cypress
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I need to start normalizing my schedule, these varying late night shifts are killing me

dapper adder
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Might as well stock with 1k then

high badge
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but I think even 1k mice are good to learn the basics and move up later

dapper adder
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Higher pulling rates also mean higher power draw

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Less battery life

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Though the 1k polling rate mouse also has RGB which is even less benefit for more power draw lol

obsidian cypress
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How much does a good all metal frame full size keyboard cost? My keyboard hasn't been detecting itself as well lately.

dapper adder
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They start at like $120? Depends on the size tbf

obsidian cypress
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Full Size as I actually run out of keybinds lmao

high badge
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Keychron runs between 80 and 120 for a full-size

obsidian cypress
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Those are modular if I recall?

high badge
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Hotswap on every key

obsidian cypress
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That means I can change both the keycaps and switches correct?

dapper adder
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Keycaps have pretty much always been easily hot swapped

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Even beamspring if you could find compatible keycaps back then KEKW

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Though not buckling spring, the keycap is part of the switch for that

obsidian cypress
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gotcha

dapper adder
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This isn't relevant information for you though

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Short answer for your question is yes

obsidian cypress
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I know this is a extremely niche request.

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How can I make it so that when my keycaps are pressed down completely that it sounds like two pieces of metal banging against each other?

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Imagine two hollowed pipes making impact

dapper adder
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Well

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There's 2 ways

obsidian cypress
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One idea I had was a all metal frame and metal keycaps

dapper adder
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You get a software that can trigger a solenoid for every keypress that hits a metal plate

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Or you use a software that plays a sound when you press a key

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It's pretty much impossible to make switches sound like they're hitting metal since they're all made of plastics, from both a friction standpoint

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And also an electrical standpoint

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Back in the beamspring era, aka like early 1980s? They had used the solenoid method

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To simulate typewriter sounds

daring zenith
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you can probably extend the keycaps so that keycaps bottom out and hit the plate instead of the switch bottoming out somehow

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but you'd have to get a metal plate too

obsidian cypress
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I was thinking of adding a plate that raises the frame

high badge
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Honestly quiet >> metallic clang

daring zenith
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without modifications the keycaps should never hit the plate

high badge
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Ask me how I know

daring zenith
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switch bottoms out first

dapper adder
obsidian cypress
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so when the keycaps hit the frame

dapper adder
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If you want a loud keyboard, IBM model f reproduction
It will cost you a pretty penny though

obsidian cypress
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It's not necessarily about how loud.

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It'

dapper adder
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But it's probably the loudest still commercially ish available keyboard that exists today

obsidian cypress
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It's the sound produced I amm interested in

dapper adder
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It sounds like a piece of plastic slapping a PCB

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As well as a spring hitting a barrel

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Because that's exactly what it's doing

obsidian cypress
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THAT SQUEAK

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MY EARS

dapper adder
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Might be a stabilizer squeak

obsidian cypress
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The squeak killed me

dapper adder
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I have no idea what you're looking at rn though lmao

obsidian cypress
dapper adder
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Was it the intro squeak

daring zenith
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you could also get some clicky switches

obsidian cypress
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Hmm, I just had an idea.

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What if I used a hollow piece of metal that extends the frame high enough for the bottom of metal keycaps to make contact?

daring zenith
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what exact kind of sound are you looking for

dapper adder
obsidian cypress
daring zenith
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you want hollow thing hitting hollow thing or solid hitting solid

obsidian cypress
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let me find an example

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Still trying to find a example

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but imagine two piece of metal hitting each other causing a shockwave like sound

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@daring zenith

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Imagine a hammer hitting an anvil

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ideally with a bit less thump from the low end

dapper adder
snow briar
# obsidian cypress but imagine two piece of metal hitting each other causing a shockwave like sound

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My ears... these muffs are painful

obsidian cypress
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I am confused by what that solenoid does

snow briar
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loud noises

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# obsidian cypress While not the sound I was looking for this thing is awesome

these are good switches if u want a loud yet pleasant sound https://youtu.be/MMSLm3pXcoE?si=s9P4ugl_hL2PjFg5

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obsidian cypress
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that is surprisingly... pleasant.

dapper adder
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loud in the sense of the anvil ring

obsidian cypress
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My thinking was to go for a slick and probably quiet switch and somehow get metal keycaps that'd smack a metal frame when I press down

dapper adder
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you would have to type very hard to achieve the sound

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also typing on a mechanical keyboard, generally you might not always bottom out your keys

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as compared to with a membrane or typewriter

obsidian cypress
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So I took a peek, it seems when I press down normally it leaves about 1mm between the bottom of the keycaps and the frame

dapper adder
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typewriters were loud because you basically had to jab the keys to swing the "hammer", so people trained on typewriters were used to VERY heavy keystrokes

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you would not be doing typing with all your fingers, at least before the elctro mechanical typewriters came out

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like the ibm selectric

daring zenith
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I'm wondering if there's any all metal switches now

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Like metal stem hitting metal bottom housing

dapper adder
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i wonder if that would even make a good sound

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there's just so little mass

daring zenith
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Probably not since the contact area would be small but

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It's still metal on metal

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Might've been manufactured when all metal keyboards were all the hype

dapper adder
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i feel like it might even still sound like bottoming out the key regularly? unsure since most people nowadays dont type like they're trying to kill the keyboard

daring zenith
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Actually wait doesn't the keycap hit the upper housing first

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I'm trying to figure out where it contacts when bottoming out and you could just swap those parts for metal equivalents

dapper adder
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i think it's the bottom of the keyswitch

pale cosmos
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I'll make you the bottom of my keyswitch in a minute

dapper adder
daring zenith
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So which is the point of contact :p

obsidian cypress
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Thank you Darvan, and MR11 for all your help.

obsidian cypress
daring zenith
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Do keep in mind that white bit is the click jacket, the stem is solid there for linear and tactile switches

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There's some nice gifs somewhere, lemme look for them

dapper adder
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hard to tell (copied the exact length on all the purple lengths)

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hmm bottom stem moves on this gif lmao

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ok the click jacket does hit the bottom it seems since it launches down

daring zenith
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Soo metal click jacket plus metal bottom housing

dapper adder
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the bottoming out would either be on that bottom stem part or the keyswitch, though i think it's more likely to be the bottom
it would make more sense for the click jacket to be metal since that would likely have the highest velocity ?

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unless like i said earlier, you're typing like you're trying to break the keyboard lol

obsidian cypress
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I will take what I can get

obsidian cypress
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bottom housing I assume to be that lower green half

daring zenith
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Ye

dapper adder
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only problem is that the click jacket doubles as the switch thing for the conductors, so we'll need a different method of triggering the switch

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i guess an optical switch would work fine

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but that's a bit more specialized

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i dont think you can diy optical yet

daring zenith
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Screw it, diy HE switches

obsidian cypress
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I enjoy anything DIY that doesn't require $2,000 worth of machinery lmao

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So am I correct in understanding that in order to pull this off I will need:

  • Hotswapable keyboard with a metal frame
  • Metal keycaps
  • DIY metal switches for the keycaps
dapper adder
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no metal keycaps

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too heavy

daring zenith
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The metal switches part is the most unrealistic to get

dapper adder
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the metal switches which would be the source of the sound would be very hard to get, you would have to figure out a way to engineer and fabricate them

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and you would also need to figure out a way (optical, or hall effect), and then also make a pcb and controller for it since i dont think there's any diy solutions for those

pale cosmos
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You know

obsidian cypress
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... I'd need to make a custom keyboard pcb?

pale cosmos
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A new keyboard is acceptable

dapper adder
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you'll need a skillset of a mechtronics engineer basically to make the keyboard that you want

pale cosmos
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I picture 343 like patrick and the bull worm episode

dapper adder
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just for the metal clicking sound

obsidian cypress
pale cosmos
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What

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That was a gif

dapper adder
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why would felix say that

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they played this on the radio???

obsidian cypress
dapper adder
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typing on marble ???

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lmao

obsidian cypress
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i was very confused by that

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Wait a moment

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listen to that spacebar

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I NEED TO KNOW HOW HE ZGOT THAT SPACEBAR TO SOUND LIKE THAT

pale cosmos
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Why does his keyboard sound like he's mining in a mountain cave

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Now I know what full metal alchemist keyboards sound like ig

obsidian cypress
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that sound

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I want my keyboard to sound like that so badly

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except on every key

pale cosmos
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You will actually spend a fortune for that

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Metal keys are expensive af

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And I don't think that's totally achievable tbh

obsidian cypress
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$150-300 for a full set

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I found a set of electroplated keycaps on sale that I currently use but the plating is wearing away

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Learned the hard way why you spend the extra to go full metal rather than plated when buying keycaps.

dapper adder
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how do you even electroplate plastic

soft dune
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At microcenter there is this red pulsar xlite v3 for $57 and a new demon slayer x2a for $60 on sale

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I might cop that x2a

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It has 4 side buttons

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Also it goes hard as hell bruh

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The es version is also $60 but that sanemi one goes crazy

soft dune
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I love micro center

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Bro this weighs 50g thats nuts

soft dune
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57g but still thats very light

sharp radish
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Would anyone here happen to have any experience adding custom gifs to the Rog Ryuo III 360 ARGB Anime Matrix?

soft dune
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Kinda brutal

white flame
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Get new skates?

soft dune
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The mouse came with some superglide ones so ima try that

pale cosmos
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I like superglides

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They're glass, extremely slippery if you're not used to it

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But smooth af

soft dune
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Dude this is brutal it can tilt from right clicking

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I dont think superglides will help

pale cosmos
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Yeah if you aren't liking the sliding feel on ptfe, then superglides will def make it worse lmao

soft dune
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Nah like it rocks left and right, its not wide enough for me

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Man that sucks

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It looks so cool

dapper adder
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What is the glide placement for that to happen

soft dune
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This guy said he got some dot skates and that fixed his problem

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See how his mouse is wider in the back

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I can intentionally try to tilt it and it wont move, while mine will rock when just right clicking

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Didnt know there was this amount of autism put into mice

dapper adder
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That is quite interesting

soft dune
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Pulsar Gaming Gears

Feet are made of 100% pure virgin PTFE. Rounder feet design provides smooth glides, stable surface contact, and tracking. Balanced for ultra-light weight mouse design.

tight pulsar
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does anybody have experience with ergo/vertical mice here

ashen crater
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Got my first dual monitor setup and im tryna figure out if theres a way to have applications open up on the monitor i open them up on vs them only popping up on my main monitor? Its annoying having to move it over especially if i have my main monitor swapped over to displaying my switch for example

obsidian cypress
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I haven't tried in a long time but I believe you can do that and it will accomplish what you want.

ashen crater
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Hm i might try and figure that out, thank you

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When you say desk spaces is it like a program or?

obsidian cypress
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Do you know how on Mac laptops you can swipe between different spaces that act as a separate desktop space?

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It's the Windows version of that

ashen crater
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Oh yeah i know what you mean

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Wouldn't that impact performance a good a bit tho?

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I'll have to test it out lol

bold crescent
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any keyboard recommendations? looking for something around 70-80 euro max, full keyboard preferred

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pls no clicky

hollow flower
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Anything Keychron basically

ashen crater
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Full keyboard is difficult, not many at that price that arent at least a smidgen dodgey

ashen crater
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See if you can get that

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Idk how to specifically move over to euros lol i will imagine its gonna be a bit overbudget tho

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Also do you really need a full layout board?

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And if you want an ISO layout keychron here is basically your only real option for that

hollow flower
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Don't get an epomaker, dropshipped pieces of 💩

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See if you can find a Keychron K10, should je around 80ish euros

ashen crater
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Looks like k10 is OOS

soft dune
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I think gamakay aint bad

daring zenith
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OOS on Keychron? Check Amazon, sometimes stocked on Amazon still

soft dune
hollow flower
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If you can't find the K10, Lemokey X3 is also a solid option

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Or Keychron V6

queen sigil
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anything by akko epomaker royal kludge etc are good options

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just find something that wont have bad shipping

hollow flower
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Royal kludge keyboards literally catch fire...

obsidian cypress
queen sigil
tight pulsar
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maybe

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but i'm getting more into cad and figured i might get something nicer on my wrists

ashen crater
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or at least be able to open something on my second monitor at all without being forced to drag it over from my main monitor

oak jungle
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should reopen in the same spot

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win+shift+L/R arrow also moves the in-focus application across monitors

ashen crater
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thank you i didnt know itd be that simple 😭

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might make a hotkey for that tbh

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queen sigil
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cheap is cheap

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you get what you pay for

high badge
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Fire hazard = not even free is cheap enough

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Besides you can get a significantly better keeb for barely more

queen sigil
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for 40$ all key boards might as well be the same

ashen crater
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its not quite keeb enthusiast grade for sure

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but it aint cheap

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especially nowadays you can get some supremely quality keyboards for really good prices

soft dune
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Gamakay FlamesBeige

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tk75 is like 60% of what it was when I first bought it like 1.5 years ago

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They have a hall effect that is also going gown over time

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I think its called the tk67 or 65 or smth but its on a flash discount rn

pale cosmos
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I know that one, very good if you don't mind the branding on it

soft dune
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The tk75 i have is pretty quiet they were not capping

soft dune
pale cosmos
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Ye the gamakay

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I nearly got the Phoenix switch one

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Stupid quiet keyboard

soft dune
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The tk75 programming stuff makes no sense

pale cosmos
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Very very nice

pale cosmos
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I have basic key usage, if I need something particular I use a stream deck so yeah

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I'm not a very good judge in that regard

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💀

oak jungle
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8bitdo vs gamesir wireless latency, ouch

buoyant steeple
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y'know, i found those old 3.5mm apple earbuds in my drawer and placed them on, somehow they sound extraordinarily good and i don't know why

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this suggestion was probably a joke but still how are they still good for $19 earbuds

neon root
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it was not a joke. the normal apple earbuds that come with the phone are really good for a free* pair of earbuds

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decent mic as well

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just apple gets memed on so much that people forget they do have some quality

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also god dang thats a bit of a old message

oak jungle
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yeah the shape also just doesn't work as well for some people ears. other than that they're quite solid

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mic is great for free/$20, though I hate when people hold it too close to their mouth

neon root
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ye shape is no good if your ears arent meant for it. if they had one with ear tips instead, theyd bang for the budget earbud market

buoyant steeple
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the only problem is if i'm moving, they fall out easy

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i'm genuinely impressed by how loud they get compared to something like the AirPods, when I use someone's AirPods I have to crank the volume to 70-90 to hear anything, while with the wired apple earbuds I can hear things perfectly at 35 volume

neon root
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i genuinely think you guys just have a lot of ear wax. i have my airpods at around 40-50% volume 🤨

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unless i just hit the airpod lotto twice with my pairs

oak jungle
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Yeah I use first gen airpod Pros and typically listen around 30%

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Which my phone says is ~55dB

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50% is the absolute max I'll use. It's not painful or anything but I don't really see any benefit from going higher

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Phone puts that ~63dB

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Not sure if those "measurements" (really just estimates I assume?) are accurate tbh. 55db would fall under "rainfall" and 63 under "conversation"

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Then again it seems like an iPhone™️ monitoring AirPods™️ would be fairly accurate

ashen crater
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You need to take a look at KZ earbuds for sure

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You can get them for 20 bucks cheapest and still get exceptional quality for the price, ive owned many and theyre phenomenal

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And you can just grab an Anker usb-c to 3.5mm jack adaptor

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For like 10 bucks

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Oop link moment

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Id recommend looking at the prices both on their aliexpress page (only go there via the link on the site) and Amazon

buoyant steeple
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It’s probably due to the lack of any sort of isolation

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but doesn’t explain the wired earbuds coming out on top considering they don’t have any isolation either

bold crescent
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hello

hollow flower
soft dune
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I couldnt find any replacements

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They are just hanging over a lamp rn

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They also have a lot of products like thermalright so i have some research to do if i ever do buy another one

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Oh the as10 seems pretty good

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Pretty neutral like my dt770

soft dune
hollow cipher
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I need some good thin warm gloves while on my pc

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Any recommendations?

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Something that isn’t fuzzy or too thick that it’s annoying while gaming

dapper adder
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alternatively, mini desk heater

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i dont like gloves for pc, because you lose alot of tactile feeling for typing and such

hollow cipher
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So maybe fingerless

hollow cipher
dapper adder
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true lol

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you could probably duct the exhaust to blow at your hands

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but there's also those mini ceramic heaters and such for your desk

hollow cipher
#

Im moving to a lian li A3 which would blow directly onto my desk

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And I own a 14600k and 7900xt

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so basically max heat

rugged lion
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can anyone give me a recommendation for a mouse

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broke mine the other day

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was the glorious model o, wondering if theres something better that i should get instead of reordering

hollow cipher
rugged lion
hollow cipher
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G305 Lightpseed is $30 too

obsidian cypress
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How long does it take for the ear cups on the K701 headphones to become soft?

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My ears are still getting soar from how stiff they are.

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Or am I wearing them wrong? The cups are wrapping around my ears and sitting on the flat bit at the bottom where people usually put ear rings.

shadow bane
white flame
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G502 is heavier than many people like but I do like mine too

hollow cipher
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i had 2 different g502 in my lifetime

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both of them broke

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my razer basilisk x still lives 4 years later

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$30

white flame
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Yes logitech switches can be bad on older revisions

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My current one has been going for a few years after getting my original one warrantied

shadow bane
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Idk if that's a real term but I'm not sure how else to describe it

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In a year or so I might go for something higher end/lighter and give this one to my brother

white flame
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USB dropout that sounds like

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Bad connection somewhere, often the cable

shadow bane
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I've only heard of that being a cpu related issue before with am4, is that an issue the reciever could have?

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Ah alr

white flame
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Where the cable meets the connector and the internals of the mouse are weak points if it doesn't have strain relief

shadow bane
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It's wireless so prob something internal or the USB receiver

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Either way got a free replacement so not a big deal lol

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(Bc I'm stupid but we'll ignore that)

white flame
#

Yeah that'll be the receiver or transmitter most likely

hearty trellis
#

we're mouse brothas 🗣️

#

or basilisk x hyperspeed?

hearty trellis
#

if you want ultra competitive light weight mice

hollow cipher
#

Was thinking about updating to the newer V3 one

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But why swap something that still works perfectly

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It’s also been thrown around in a backpack a ton and still no issues

gaunt forge
#

Nice

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I wish I went that route, but I at least learned how to fix broken mice

hollow cipher
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Lol the dongle it uses is in worse condition

hollow cipher
gaunt forge
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Who ever said cheap?

hollow cipher
#

Especially when I would need to get a heat gun or buy new rubber pads

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If you mouse is fancy then yeah fix it

gaunt forge
#

I got a 160$ mouse and fixed it for 2 dollars

hollow cipher
#

That’s different

gaunt forge
#

+30 for tools

hollow cipher
#

I was talking about my $30 mouse

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New pads would cost more than a new mouse lol

oak jungle
#

The rubber under my thumb on my viper is wearing out :(

gaunt forge
#

Also easily repairable imo

gaunt forge
#

Don't replace it

gaunt forge
oak jungle
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Yeah I'd def try that before throwing it out. All the switches still feel good

hollow cipher
#

Is the Razer Basilisk V3 X HyperSpeed an upgrade from a v1?

gaunt forge
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if it's battery powered then maybe not

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unless ur ok with a heavy mouse that uses AA's that need to be purchased

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pretty sure the other variants are rechargeable from the computer and lighter

hollow cipher
bold crescent
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razer deathadder v2 x hyperspeed? is it good?

sweet wigeon
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should i buy a scyrox v8 or are there better options?

ashen crater
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id honestly pick the deathadder first

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logitech g305 is a good option at 30 to 35

soft dune
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Ducky

queen sigil
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no thanks

soft dune
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Ducky

restive sedge
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Any small white+rgb mice that are of decent quality?

ashen crater
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1 dollar, 1 gazillion dollars?

oak jungle
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shape isn't for everyone

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oh it's also not rgb, just white lighting

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oh I also thought I read cheap/budget for some reason lol

soft dune
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evga mouse evga mouse

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Bro what its 75g and can do 8k polling

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I love evga

dapper adder
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considering that my left click is barely working now, and that my mouse was like 15 bucks canadian, from like 8 years ago, i think it's time to change it lmao

honestly idk what to get, i've been looking at rtings, and all their office recommendations were also wireless, though honestly i would rather have it be wired so i don't have to deal with batteries
i don't play any fps games (and if i do, they're not competitive, and more casual, like doom or whatever). and i am lazy so i would rather just have the mouse plugged in all of the time

a nice scroll wheel is honestly the main thing i want, since that's pretty much the main thing i use on a mouse (being able to free wheel seems interesting and might actually be useful for me? idk, if it allows me to scroll smoothly on screen, rather than going one notch at a time, i would like that, but if it doesn't, then i wouldn't necessarily need or want it), and perhaps "easily" replaceable switches (soldering is fine for me, just getting the mouse body apart and back together would be nice if it was all screwed down without any rivets and such)

currently considering the Logitech G502 X, though i would rather spend under $80 cad
i've also looked at the keychron m6, which even has a thumb wheel and is $72 cad (+ shipping?), though idk how easily disassemble-able it is

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though the more i think about it, the m6 is a better buy than the 502x lol, though idk if there's really any other good competitors

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looking into it further, it looks like the m6 is also quite easily disassembleable so unless there are decent alternatives, i'll be getting that

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i do dislike that they also hide some screws under the glides but whatever

oak jungle
dapper adder
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yeah

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😔

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also feel free to leave the reply @ on for my replies lmao

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i don't really care

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well, i would prefer the @ to be on so i can see the notif

oak jungle
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yeah I tend to not ping if it's not critical to the convo

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anyways the m6 looks pretty nice

dapper adder
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looking at the manual, you can repair a dongle for the mouse, though i dont see keychron selling them 🧐

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probably can only get replacements from contacting support ig

dapper adder
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i've bought the mouse since there wasnt any other reccs in case it randomly goes oos lmao
after shipping it was $85 cad

gaunt forge
soft dune
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fr

dapper adder
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i also just discovered the g309 from the amazon listing page since i wanted to see the current price (the g305 currently costs $68 bucks, so it has gone up in price) and damn that's ugly LMFAO why does it dip down like that???

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look at this 💀

gaunt forge
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dont buy it

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g305 so much better bang for buck and still in stock

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literally zero reason to get it

dapper adder
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no no, i was looking at the mouse i bought in the past then saw this monstrosity lmao

gaunt forge
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ah

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still, Logitech fell off in terms of new peripheral releases

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also wow you spend 60 on ag305?!

pale cosmos
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All I can say is

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Wow that looks so 2009

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☠️

dapper adder
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it just looks like a bug

pale cosmos
gaunt forge
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Potato

dapper adder
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it's gonna spread its wings and fly

pale cosmos
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The potato 🥔

gaunt forge
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Potato.

dapper adder
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you're australian, you should have heard of the potato bug frfr

pale cosmos
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I was about to eat a potato

dapper adder
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boil them mash them put them in a stew

pale cosmos
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This is ominous

dapper adder
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po tay toe bug

gaunt forge
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potato.

soft dune
queen sigil
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yo can my keyboard hurry up bro

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im getting the true GB experience with it getting delayed like a month

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🕐

tight pulsar
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which one

queen sigil
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neo ergo getting delayed by cny i think