#peripherals-and-displays

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queen sigil
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thicker keycaps usually make it less high pitched but

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not quieter

thorn grove
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You want THONK?

queen sigil
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but usually much easier on the ears

pale cosmos
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Interesting

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Thicker keys THONK

queen sigil
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if u want quiet id look more into maybe silent switches

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they usually have dampeners that make the buttom and topout much quieter

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idk if they exist for magnetic switches

pale cosmos
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I think the switches I was considering were Boba black u4 or something like that?

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It's been 10 days, had a lot going on so my memory is foggy

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I don't care for the feel just need quiet as possible and a neutral aesthetic finish

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After that whether or not it's HE is just an extra if it's there

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I like optical/HE, but not really needed it in the last couple years

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More focused on a work scenario than a game scenario

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Which the wooting would do all but the price is a lot for it

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Hence me looking elsewhere

queen sigil
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ik theres like penguin silent switches or smth and plenty of other cheaper ones by brands like akko

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if all u care about is aesthetic and silent its probs best to get smth like a keychron board with silent switches

pale cosmos
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Hmmm

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You know any silent switches that work with that K2 he?

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I like the look of that thing

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But not the keycaps lmao

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I will get different caps

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The wooden sides on that look really nice tho, it'll match my Dan A3

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I think it's K2 HE?

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It's the wooden looking special version with the 75%(?) layout

queen sigil
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idk much about magnetic switches

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u could probs google see if they exist or not but i got no idea

pale cosmos
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Damn, I really like the look of that thing

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I guess I could

queen sigil
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pretty sure most magnetic switches are compatible

pale cosmos
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Could I even just use the normal keys?

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Like the Boba blacks or penguin silent

queen sigil
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uhhh i don’t think so?

pale cosmos
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Ah ok

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I'm not familiar if there's a whole cross compatibility thing with those boards that can hot swap

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Guess that's something I could also look around for

queen sigil
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i think magnetic and normal switches arent compatible

pale cosmos
queen sigil
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but i mean keychron got plenty of normal switch keyboard

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at like all prices

pale cosmos
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Oh yeah but I want it to look as nice as it sounds

queen sigil
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most are very plain looking

pale cosmos
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I normally advocate for stuff like normal keychron but personally I do not vibe with the normal aesthetic they have DogKek

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I don't like the rounded keys, nor the grey/red theme

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Just not my thing

queen sigil
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just get a v series keyboard and swap out the keycaps

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or u can just buy them barebones

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and use ur own switches and keycaps

pale cosmos
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Hmmge

queen sigil
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like that’s not bad def build it out for < 120

pale cosmos
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Oh I see what you mean

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Hmmmm I'll have to think about it

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Lunch time is over

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Thanks for the ideas tho

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Was worth it waveWoof

queen sigil
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yep

thorn grove
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wooting 80he

lone grove
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any good productivity usb c wireless mice?

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wait it doesnt even have to be usb c

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just wireless productivity

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any drawbacks to bluetooth mice?

neon root
lone grove
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lkike noticable?

neon root
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not really

lone grove
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wait it depends on stuff like polling rate tho right

neon root
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depending on the kind of productivity youre doing, something like this would be good if youre sitting there for a while
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Vertical-Ergonomic-Bluetooth-Compatible/dp/B09J1TB35S/

neon root
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lone grove
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yea i dont touch grass

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I m doing a lot of cad

neon root
snow briar
dapper adder
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Which is very tiny

pale cosmos
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@queen sigil bridge75HE with black blanks

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I immediately fell for it

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Lol

queen sigil
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yeah i mean it looks p good

lone grove
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these bluetooth specs wont be an issue, right?

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oh I can't send images

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125hz @ a claimed 8ms latency?

snow briar
# lone grove ive seen also the mt760 from rapoo

I haven’t had any experience with rapoo, but I have had tons of experience with keychron. Keychron is a very reputable brand and tends to make great products. I’m sure the Bluetooth specs won’t be a issue on either

queen sigil
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just use a usb dongle

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if ur gonna worry about bluetooth latency

vapid jay
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is the razer huntsman v3 pro good or is the PRO X TKL RAPID (logitech gaming keyboard)

daring zenith
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Recommended would be just to grab a keychron keyboard instead of either of those

vapid jay
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ik razer is controversial but logitech i heard isnt bad

obsidian cypress
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I have had a few LogiTech, RedDragon, a XiaoMi and one Razer mice.

So far my favorite has been my Razer Basilisk V3. So far it's been the only mouse to survive 2 years of heavy abuse without issues.

vapid jay
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so is it good or no the razer huntsman v3 pro

obsidian cypress
daring zenith
pale cosmos
tawdry latch
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Guys for a 5600g truenas server, with no graphics card but has a 800w psu, should I go with a 300w UPS or a 900w UPS?

I’m thinking about the apc 300w UPS but I’m not sure if it’ll ever overload the UPS, but I don’t think it should go over 200w usage, I just want it to go into hibernation mode automatically when it detects a power surge/outage then I’ll manually turn it back on when it’s safe to do so

lone grove
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I also dont want to carry around a docking station everyitme

dapper adder
west hornet
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^ ye was gonna say if you can measure the output over some time that helps. Ultimately depends on the load and if you want to expand it to other systems

tawdry latch
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Yeah guys I’m currently stress testing the cpu. On idle, it uses about 60w, during the stress test of the cpu, it uses about 135w

dapper adder
tawdry latch
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I have a smart plug that tests it & only the pc is connected to it

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Wait so I also have POE switches for security cameras, would outlet -> UPS -> smart plug -> POE Switch be okay? Sometimes I need to turn off only the POE Switch remotely just to reboot the cameras

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But maybe I’m just overthinking it, my router is nowhere near the pc tho so I won’t really have a use for the coaxial part of the 1500VA ups

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The switches use a combined total of 20w, so if I connect those + my pc to the UPS, they’ll use about 160w at peak power consumption

dapper adder
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Unless you're using it for turning on/off

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my ups gives these statistics

tawdry latch
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Wow that’s a nice software to have, so for the UPS itself, assuming like it’ll be used maybe once a month or twice, do you think the battery would last 5 years before having to replace it?

dapper adder
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Depends on the type, but most cheaper ups batteries (aka SLA batteries) only lasts around 3-4 years before the battery life is degraded too much
The considerably more expensive lithium UPS will last 10

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I don't think there is even a lithium UPS that isn't rack mount

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Actually that's a bit of a lie

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There are some lithium power stations (you know, those battery banks for camping or whatever) that might have a UPS feature

west hornet
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Some of them are designed to work as a backup as well. Not sure if they are really meant to be 24/7 though

queen sigil
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i bought neo ergo dead

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cant wait to get it in like 3 months

dapper adder
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Though it is usually around the same price as a regular ups

west hornet
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Yeah. Those ones I find interesting as a portable multi use backup

dapper adder
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Did a little bit of research on products and it seems like ecoflow has an ATS add-on for your house to connect to one of their monster batteries for backup power

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Like the ones that store multiple kwh of power

west hornet
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Yeah ive seen those

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Terribly expensive though

dapper adder
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It is all lithium batteries so kinda expected tbf

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Still not as expensive as some lithium UPSs rated for servers though

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And those I believe have less capacity as well

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Well, less usable

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I assume they don't fully charge the cells in a lithium UPS to extend lifespan of them

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Idk if it's the same with ecoflow or other power stations

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And also it's honestly around the same price as buying a large generator and an automatic transfer switch for the generator

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And way cheaper than a ng standby generator which needs to get plumbed to a gas line, or a propane standby generator which needs a propane tank (which you might already have, or not) and also plumbed in

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Oh yeah if you happen to have an EV, you might also be able to tap power off of it with an adapter

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Some ev cars can output 120v from the charge port with the adapter

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So you can run like a fridge and maybe some lights during a power outage

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And the capacity of that battery is so large that it'll last like a week under conservative use

rigid valve
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hey guys what would be an appropriate mic to pair with a schiit magni and HD6XXs

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i had previously been recommended an elgato wave 3 wondering if that's still meta

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idek if the amp matters cuz i don't think the mic goes into it but honestly i have no clue how it works

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probably shouldn't be blind buying something this expensive though

pale cosmos
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Fifine is decent for budget

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@dapper adder know any mid range mics?

dapper adder
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just go for fifine if you're just going to be on stuff like discord vcs

rigid valve
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sounds good

pale cosmos
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If you have NVIDIA use broadcast

rigid valve
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ok

dapper adder
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not much point in spending too much on a "good" mic when all you do is discord vcs or game comms lmao

pale cosmos
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That'll serve as a good "mixer" for BG noise cancelling

rigid valve
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yeah i'd imagine

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also since i'm here my friend is looking for a wireless headphones with decent soundstage and neutral frequency response for $180

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how do i tell him he's never gonna find one

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heapdhoens sorry

pale cosmos
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Closest he'd get to that is used nova pros

rigid valve
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alright i'll pass it on

pale cosmos
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Almost nothing else really gets there

rigid valve
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like obviously wired there are options

pale cosmos
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Yeah fr

rigid valve
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but when you choose wireless it cuts everything out

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wireless headphones are like

pale cosmos
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Exactly

rigid valve
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not made to have good frequency response

dapper adder
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i assume for gaming as well, so it needs low latency, that would be a hard sell lmao

rigid valve
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nobody uses wireless headphones to mix that's stupid

pale cosmos
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I would highly encourage him with Senns for a long cable if he can compromise

rigid valve
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gaming and music production

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but you can't produce with wireless headphones

pale cosmos
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Many Senns have long cables

rigid valve
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you'll never get the right mixing quality

pale cosmos
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Like 3m

rigid valve
pale cosmos
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Pc38x for example

dapper adder
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me when i need to walk to the other side of the room with my wired headphones on

pale cosmos
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So not far off the 6xx

dapper adder
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(i joke but there's actually a use case for music producers ngl, sometimes they walk up to an instrument somewhere in the room and keep their headphones on)

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some people even have like a pulley system to take up headphone cable slack but still will be able to use the length of the cable

pale cosmos
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That's actually genius wtf

dapper adder
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lmao

rigid valve
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that is actually pretty novel

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i've never heard of that

dapper adder
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not the exact same thing but people with wired vr headsets sometimes also use a pully system, so they dont keep stepping on their cable

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i do see some design flaws with this, most notably that it doesnt really allow for moving the cable in any direction without potentially getting off the pully (though technically rectified by putting a wire retainer/guide to keep the cable positioned) but i could see those cable rollers (see attached image) would make the movement more smooth

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also this pulley is useless in the case of this since it's not supposed to move, so it isnt required for their design

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another method of taking up slack that i've thought of in the past is by using those... idk what they're called but they're string and retractable? like the kinda thing used for the vr headsets?

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you could do what gas station does with the hose and do loops kinda to take up slack

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not exactly as pictured

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kinda like this

pale cosmos
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I left for 10 minutes, came back we're talking about gas stations

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What the heck

dapper adder
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lmfao

neon root
rigid valve
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guys do i get 560s for $150 or 6XXs for 170

pale cosmos
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6xx for 170 sounds dope but both are good

rigid valve
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will i need an amp for both of them

dapper adder
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i would go for the 6xx

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since pretty much every part can be replaced

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without any tools

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earpads, grilles, headband foam, headband, cable, even the drivers technically

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though you probably wouldnt want to replace the drivers since they are matched at the factory for each pair

dapper adder
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deck

pale cosmos
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Gooss

dapper adder
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dock

pale cosmos
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Guuse

dapper adder
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di-

pale cosmos
dapper adder
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duck

thorn grove
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Pretty sure 560s go for like what .. $120 on sale?

dapper adder
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to be clear, you can "use" the hd6xx even with the apple dac, though the max volume on that will pretty much only get the headphones to a listenable level

rigid valve
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i'm just wondering because currenlty right now hd6xxs are $170 which is pretty cheap afaik

dapper adder
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170 is the lowest price it gets pretty much

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Unless you buy used

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Which is also fine because of how common replacement pads are

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You can use any pad from the HD 600 line

snow briar
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Ima vote for the 6xx’s

rigid valve
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6xxs have been purchased

terse hare
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any mice recommendations? i have a glorious model o and like the design but have had it forever

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and a mousepad too

terse hare
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or a controller with back paddles too ^^ i want a xbox elite series 2 but heard its got a stick drift problem

neon root
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every controller that doesnt use hall effect analog sticks is going to get stick drift at some point

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mousepad recommendation, if you dont know what kind you want, then i recommend xraypad aqua controll II or control+
if you can only buy something at a retail store, then steelseries qck or razer goliath or strider if available

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if you have a bit more money to spend, then a artisan hien or zero

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mice recommendations, idk what you want. endgamg gear op1 or xm2, razer viper or deathadder, ninjutsu sora v2, lamzu atlantis or maya, logitech g pro x superlight 2, wlmouse beast x/mini. forgor what else is there

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scyrox v8 is popular budget mouse rn

terse hare
daring zenith
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If you use a very low sensitivity maybe you'll want more of a speed pad than a control pad

neon root
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xraypad also has different sizes

terse hare
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i dont even use a mousepad rn lol

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ight cool thanks

neon root
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they have sizes of up to 1200x550 if youre into that

neon root
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aqua control II would be the faster of the 2 that i said

terse hare
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low in game sens

neon root
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ye, just do the aqua control II

terse hare
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think i might go with the 450x400

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just measured my desk area should be enough

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wait i might be dumb

450x400 is 17.7x15.7 inches right 😅

the pictures on peoples desk look a lot smaller

daring zenith
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450mm x 400mm is reasonably sized but it would not be like the size of a desk mat

thorn grove
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wooting 80he shipped

gaunt forge
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fyi to yall btw, Aliexpress Xraypad store allows you to customize a massive mousepad, i believe I paid 40$ total

neon root
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they do on their site as well but i think i paid like $40 for mine but it was during their valentines sale last year? or this year. forgor

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dont think their black friday deal is as good this year

terse hare
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is there a noticeable input delay difference in wired vs wireless mic?. and if i plug a wireless mouse in to make it wired would it remove said input delay?

gaunt forge
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No

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Well, If the mouse has good sensor than no

gaunt forge
daring zenith
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We have 4000hz wireless mice available now too

white flame
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Some wireless mice have better latency than wired

west hornet
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imo for wireless mice i would go 1000hz minimum polling rate if you are playing games

rigid valve
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any alternatives to a magni+ that i should consider for 6xxs

terse hare
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are glorious mice bad

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i like them but theyre the only thing ive ever known

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i have model o but kinda want model d

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or another mouse that has holes in it like glorious cuz i like those

shadow bane
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They typically make solid mice from what i know

white flame
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Overpriced and overhyped but at least not bad

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Good option if there's a good sale

terse hare
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is it possible to feel a difference in polling rate hz past 1000

pale cosmos
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If your monitor isn't even remotely fast enough, practically no

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The accuracy between 1K, 4K and 8K can from memory deviate as much as 1% in the form of a couple pixels

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If you're minmaxing though, every little bit counts

terse hare
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hmm ok

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idk what to get. i heard razer viper v3 pro was good but no sale and expensive

pale cosmos
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Vv3 pro probably has one of if not the best 8k sensor on the market rn

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Which has a greater impact than polling

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The V2 pro is also very close to that

dapper adder
# rigid valve any alternatives to a magni+ that i should consider for 6xxs

Alot of options, you should be fine with a fiio k7 or even k5, though k7 is quite nice with output selection (speakers or headphones, many DAC amp combos including the magni switches output by unplugging the headphones
The K7 also supports balanced output so it can power more headphones than a magni (also has a more powerful amp)

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Might still be on sale

pale cosmos
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Toppinggggg

dapper adder
terse hare
dapper adder
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Your monitor is 170hz so 5.88ms between refreshes plus 1ms grey to grey pixel response time

pale cosmos
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^Rough guide yeah @terse hare

hollow cipher
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Alternative is the neat bumblebee II pro

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It’s $16 + $20 for a mic arm

hollow cipher
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The razer seiren mini is $38

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The fifine is like $30 (-arm)

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The neat bumblee II is $16

pale cosmos
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The fifine budget ones are supposed to be really good

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I'm not all familiar on which, but it's around that price so you're close lol

terse hare
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so if im undertanding correctly going above 1000hz mouse wouldnt do anything for me?

dapper adder
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1000 imo is enough for most people

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felix has said this before but sensor accuracy matters more than poll rate

white flame
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A vast majority yes

dapper adder
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i personally have my mouse set at like 300hz or whatever lmao

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to save power

white flame
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Mine is at 500

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I don't do shooters usually

dapper adder
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yeah me neither

pale cosmos
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Well shoot

white flame
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Make me

terse hare
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how do you guys determine whats of good quality and what isnt im still new to computers and stuff and trying to learn so appreciate the help

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outside of reading reviews from different sources idrk

pale cosmos
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You're basically in a chat room with several people who learn out of pure curiosity and have done so together for going on 3+ years now lmao

white flame
ashen crater
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The more sources, the less bias

dapper adder
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manufacturer specs are not good for comparing because not only do they lie sometimes

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but their measuement equipment may be calibrated differently, or have different equipment that measures differently, or even have the same equipment but measure it differently

hollow cipher
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Companies will not show anything bad about their product

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Hey our power supply is 80+ gold and hyper efficient for only $60! It did explode a couple times during testing but that doesn’t matter.

white flame
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I really wish that was an exaggeration but it's definitely a thing that happened

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Even better, they were force bundling those power supplies with 3080 and 3090 GPUs, which were notorious for creating the exact conditions that caused them to explode

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I personally blew up 3

thorn grove
left trail
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whats the best mouse rn you guys could recommend thats within a $50-$75 price range

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this walmart slop i got rn is gonna drive me insane with the god awful tracking

hollow cipher
neon root
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scyrox v8 (if you can find it in stock) $70, deathadder v3 wired $44, endgame gear op1 or xm2 $55-$75 (theres also wireless versions), some still recommend the logitech g305 $30, fantech aria $70, logitech g pro x superlight (the first one not the new one and specifically in white on amazon) $80 just outside of price range. normal g pro wireless is $67

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feel as though im missing another mouse

thorn grove
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Gpro wireless super light 2 in pink was on sale at best buy for $80

neon root
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huh, so it is.... best buy on some crack rn. $120 for black or white superlight 2 but $80 for magenta superlight 2. but for the first superlight its $80 for white but its $151 for magenta for superlight 1

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if you dont mind magenta, then do that superlight 2 instead of the white superlight 1 from amazon

thorn grove
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NVM it's out of stock no w

left trail
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alr ill check these out, appreciate yall as always

neon root
neon root
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glorious is alright

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good deal. just eh company. havent followed them in a while to see if theyve improved on anything

terse hare
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ive heard a lot of good things abt razer viper

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the v3 isnt on sale tho and the v2 looks fine ig but has some weird design on it idk if id like

neon root
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the hump of the v2 is fairly low and the middle is pretty narrow

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for me i like the shape but i also have smol hands

slate basin
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are there any non apple earbuds that fit airpod cases?

queen sigil
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uhhhhhhhhh

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lol?

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why

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also never heard of anything that can

oak jungle
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Maybe knockoff airpods lol

dapper adder
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I feel like it's going to breach some patents if somebody legit copied the airpods case design

queen sigil
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i do not reccomend buying reps 👍

queen sigil
oak jungle
oak jungle
slate basin
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oh

slate basin
queen sigil
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?

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you think the case...

slate basin
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like the custom ones people make

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not the stock ones

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the stock ones suck

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but like the cute pokeball ones and stuff

queen sigil
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there are wireless earbud cases for alot of different earbuds

slate basin
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can you recommend some that are common for custom case makers?

white flame
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Oh, you mean a case that goes around the charging case, not the charging case itself

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I was very confused and thought you were talking about putting samsung buds in an airpod charge case or something

slate basin
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i guess so, im not familiar with earbuds

dapper adder
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Why do you even need a case case

slate basin
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theyre cute

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the same reason people buy rgb stuff and custom keycaps

dapper adder
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But your case is in your pocket like 90% of the time

slate basin
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theyre not meant to be looked at, but its still cool to have them look cool

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oh

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yea

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still

dapper adder
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I'm kinda surprised that dbrand doesn't have a skin for any tws earbud cases

queen sigil
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just buy like a keychain or smth

dapper adder
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Attach a "remove before flight" tag to it frfr

slate basin
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damnn

vapid jay
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what is the P that is glowing

dapper adder
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check the manual

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probably says

vapid jay
dapper adder
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what keyboard is this? i'll check

vapid jay
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ik C stands for caps lock but idk anything else

vapid jay
dapper adder
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c is caps lock
s is scroll lock
m is macro (only used for macro creation)
g is game mode (disables start menu key
p is for profile switching it seems

vapid jay
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how can i disable it

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or can i

dapper adder
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i have no clue

vapid jay
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how can i use scroll luck on a tkl

dapper adder
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the manual makes no mention of what that light is used for like you said

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oh wait, looking at the graphics on the keys, looks like these buttons are used for profile switching

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you may have somehow triggered a hotkey combination that enables the profile switching

dapper adder
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first 4 i know because i also have a razer keyboard

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last one i found because of a reddit post and the manual kinda implies it

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though doesnt really mention it

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or rather, it mentions the fact it can do profile switching but not what the indicator does

vapid jay
dapper adder
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it probably isnt supposed to

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try pressing page up on your keyboard

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to load that profile

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or fn + pgup

vapid jay
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from the videos tha ti just watrched it looks like its supposed to be on

dapper adder
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interesting

vapid jay
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when i switch profiles the indicator should to the profile color but it doesnt

dapper adder
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yeah i have no clue why it would or wouldnt do that

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especially since the manual is kinda useless

slate basin
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are there any good wireless earbuds with tracking for under 50 dollars?

dapper adder
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Tracking as in like find my device?

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I don't think any of those exist for under 50

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Actually

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Only the google pixel buds supports Google's find my device

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In terms of tws earbuds

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There are cheaper earbuds that play a tone to find it but no location tracking ofc

slate basin
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which of the soundcore a20i, p20i and qcy t13 have the tone feature?

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oh

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nevermind i found out

ashen crater
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for cherry switches its an option but there are better options

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youd have to dig around a bit more

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if you enjoy the board tho and like the white + plus LED redragon is not at all a bad option

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that price however is not a deal LMAO

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i got a similar redragon board for 40

oak jungle
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I have mixed feelings on reddragon. I got one of their boards with my first build and the build quality was actually pretty good, metal plate, good feet, etc.
But one by one the switches started failing

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Not sure if they've changed switch suppliers since then

oak jungle
#
REDRAGON ZONE

The latest low profile design with a 30% lower key height provides the most precision you expect from original mechanical switches, enabling you to react faster to situations and enemies in games. 1.3mm mechanical OUTEMU switches reduce the travel distance and clicky noise while keeping the same signature durability and accuracy.

ashen crater
#

Its competent for the price yes

thorn grove
ashen crater
#

sorry i think you forgot to render that keyboard

dapper adder
#

real

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the image makes it kinda look bad

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the product images look so much better lmfao

queen sigil
thorn grove
#

ye

queen sigil
#

aw hell nah

tight pulsar
queen sigil
#

@tight pulsar what switches i put in neo ergo

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i got like 3 months to decide

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mixing keycap sets

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:)

tight pulsar
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browns

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or whatever clears don't break caps

ashen crater
#

i love cherrys

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but browns are great fs

queen sigil
#

never broke any in enough to be worth ot

queen sigil
dapper adder
#

literally the most basic ass switches 🔥

ashen crater
#

fuh reel

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i call cherry mx red cherrys

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because im insane

queen sigil
#

well ur just wrong then

ashen crater
#

i dont think you understand how little i care <3

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i wasnt giving tech advice

queen sigil
#

oh good thank god

ashen crater
#

i call them reds if im giving advice lmao

queen sigil
#

sure

tight pulsar
queen sigil
tight pulsar
#

leafs are really inconsistent

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at least the once i got a while ago

queen sigil
#

yeah i mean they were what i expected for like 4 cents a switch or whatever i paid for them

tight pulsar
#

mhm

ashen crater
#

you get what you pay for certainly

pale cosmos
#

@queen sigil I decided

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Bridge75 HE ver.

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And these

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Memory foam rest too cos I can ache if I don't have anything soft to put my hands down on

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Strange that first pic has really odd compression

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Anyway

rigid valve
#

thoughts on jds labs

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no longer sure if i want to shell out for a fiio k7 or a magni+

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could just buy an amp aswell idk

west hornet
#

From jds the atom stack is pretty popular, often compared to the schiit stack

rigid valve
#

might you say they're pretty equivalent

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cuz i might just get the atom amp because my computer by itself is having a little bit of troulbe driving 6xxs

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don't really care to shell out cash for a dac yet

west hornet
#

I would say close but many people say that the atom has a slight edge. also that's ok but make sure you have something to plug the amp into. most of these use rca input since it's just an amp

dapper adder
#

the atom has a 3.5mm in iirc

rigid valve
#

it says it has both 3.5 and rca so i most likely will be going with that

dapper adder
#

you could try cleaning it

ashen crater
#

Ive heard good things about it

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Its a lil bit older now tho

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Id look at reviews first tho

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Deathadder essential is a great choice too for a lower price

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Or if you can snag one for 30 to 35 a g305

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Essential is wired but cheapest from my memory

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Like 20 to 30

buoyant steeple
#

I don't know if audio devices like earbuds count as peripherals but anyway

#

I'm looking for some quality wired earbuds that don't break the bank but I don't know what all these terms like "warm" and "bassy" mean...not an audiophile so should I really worry about that stuff?

rigid valve
#

"warm" and "bassy" just refer to how the earbuds sound

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afaik the de facto brand for good wired earbuds is Moondrop but don't jump on that

neon root
#

apple earbuds stonks1

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they dont really go in ear so if they dont fit your ear hole shape then big problem

buoyant steeple
#

if only phones still included the earbuds in the box peepoSadSip

neon root
#

forgor apple dont include them anymore PepeRealizes

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only usb c cable

pale cosmos
#

I C this as terrible

timber ridge
shell niche
#

Should I get the fo27q3 for 600$? I want the “best” 27 oled and according to rting it is

snow briar
#

$600 ain’t bad for the best according to rtings oled

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I’d go for it.

shell niche
snow briar
#

It’s very pretty 10/10 my second favorite purchase of the year

shell niche
snow briar
#

Samsung makes the panel everyone uses

pale cosmos
#

I feel like this must be said

snow briar
pale cosmos
snow briar
#

I only get gpu hand me downs

pale cosmos
snow briar
snow briar
pale cosmos
#

Sus

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Jk don't do that

snow briar
pale cosmos
#

I said jk

snow briar
pale cosmos
#

That's the ultimate reverse right

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Right?

thorn grove
buoyant steeple
ashen crater
#

i need a pair of hd660s or my life will never be complete 😔

rigid valve
timber ridge
#

It’s much better on woled

queen sigil
#

@timber ridge

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new keyboard soon

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i need new deskmat tho lowkey

timber ridge
#

neo lineup go crazy

queen sigil
#

fr

timber ridge
#

keyboard prices have changed so much over time

queen sigil
#

over covid entry level dropped like 50%

timber ridge
#

Yea it's insane how much cheaper they can produce em

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Ik someone who is a ghost designer and it's dirt cheap for em to make

queen sigil
#

paid 110 for the 67 lite 4 years ago

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now u could get something liek that for like 40$

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fully built

timber ridge
#

Only downside is a lotta projects for smaller designers are hard to run now

queen sigil
#

no keybord really special anymore

timber ridge
#

Yea

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I kinda dropped the stuff a while back

queen sigil
#

same

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but I wanted a silent keyboard but didnt wanna turn my qk65 silent

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and the neo ergo lookin mad sexy

timber ridge
#

You still game ?

queen sigil
#

not much

timber ridge
#

Hall effect keyboards lowkey go crazy

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I always got one sitting on my desk ready to go

queen sigil
#

well half that stuff lowkey just cheating

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tarkov the only shooter i been playing "recently"

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and that games movement so clunky it doesnt matter

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theres always like keychron or whatever if I want an HE keyboard

timber ridge
#

Ye true

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Neo ergo was prob gonna be the last gb board I bought but I skipped

queen sigil
#

just wait a year before keychron releases tented alice for 100$

timber ridge
#

Keychron always screwd up alice layout

queen sigil
#

fr?

timber ridge
#

They add unnecessary macros or exploded arrow key

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Look at the last one they made

queen sigil
#

for reference

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yeah ts mad ugly

timber ridge
#

They keep on trying to reinvent the wheel or some 😭

#

Standard Alice is good

queen sigil
#

im mixing keycap sets from DK so i hope it dont turn out real ugly

timber ridge
#

Don't have the sb kit ?

queen sigil
queen sigil
timber ridge
#

Space bar

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Or you just mixing jus cause

queen sigil
#

nah im mixing alphas and mods

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just being cheap

timber ridge
#

Reasonable for this economy

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I haven't looked at the key cap side of the community

#

Has that gotten better

queen sigil
#

idk i havent been too invested

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pbtfans still selling sets for like 75+

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for the most part i think sets are still the same price as they have been

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while aliexpress kits still like 15$ for 99% of the same thing

timber ridge
#

unfortunate

queen sigil
#

gmk kits still 100+$ 💀

timber ridge
#

I don't think they'll ever drop

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Unless geon mass produces some for his shop or something

queen sigil
#

i love waiting years for keyboards to arrive

timber ridge
#

Ye I don't think I can do that again

ashen crater
#

erg kits are funky to me

queen sigil
timber ridge
queen sigil
#

worst thing that happened was like kumamech

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where i ordered accents that was like eta a couple months

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then it got delayed like a year

timber ridge
#

Insane

queen sigil
#

then the company changed names and died

timber ridge
#

The amount of vendors that robbed everyone

queen sigil
#

and the accents were warped lol

timber ridge
#

Towards the end of my kb hobby, I was jus getting stuff custom made

#

so my wait times were like 2 months max

queen sigil
#

i only had like

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2 custom keyboards so far

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the 67lite and the qk 65 i still got

timber ridge
#

I only have 4 rn

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But I'm trying to get rid of 1

queen sigil
#

i sold the 67 lite to a friend for cheap

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i lowkey shoulda taken out the holy bobas that were in them

#

i actually really liked those

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and i 100% dont have the patience to make and lube another set of those

#

thank god for prelubed switches

timber ridge
#

Do you have any other rabbit holes you're in now?

queen sigil
#

rhythm game

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just kidding

timber ridge
#

Still trapped i see

queen sigil
#

too poor to really get into those

#

i got into arcade rhythm games

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stuff like sound voltex, DDR, In The Groove, etc

timber ridge
#

I remember you buying some type of game pad last time I was active here

queen sigil
#

yeah its like an replica arcade controller

#

this thingy

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home controller for this game

shell niche
#

I know this is a weird question but the pg27aqdp has a lot of input lag on 60hz according to things is this a firmware issue or just a unit monitor issue?I play on console sometimes that’s why it’s quite important to me

dapper adder
#

You don't have to run the monitor at 60hz

#

Also the increase in latency isn't so horrible that you would feel it

#

Maybe only in competitive games

pale cosmos
#

@dapper adder @shell niche

#

Note the wording

#

Input lag at fixed 60hz

#

If you turn on VRR, it's not an issue

dapper adder
#

True, but the monitor also has "horrible VRR flicker"

pale cosmos
#

Mmmm, can't win em all DogKek

#

Most woled's have that problem

#

The other easy answer is to just play in 120hz mode

dapper adder
#

5.3 on vrr flicker

shell niche
#

you guys are so helpful

pale cosmos
pale cosmos
shell niche
#

i dont use vrr tbh

pale cosmos
#

Or yeah try vrr

#

See if you're ok with it

#

Either or, as long as it's not locked 60 you're fine

dapper adder
#

Yeah I had to go check the number though because I just saw red (not blood) while looking for the 60hz performance

pale cosmos
#

So this implies variable fps

pale cosmos
#

Just don't lock it to 60, easy rule

dapper adder
shell niche
pale cosmos
#

D2 supports 120 in multiplayer

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Just enable 120 on your console and use vrr in the console settings

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That should minimise input lag

shell niche
#

yh the pve mode which is 95 percent of the game is 60 hz

pale cosmos
#

Ik

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I played D2 for year

dapper adder
pale cosmos
#

Welp

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Gboard corrected me to 1 year

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So I guess I played it for year

dapper adder
#

Real

#

Gboard didn't want you to expose yourself

#

For your degenerate behavior

pale cosmos
#

120+ is ez

shell niche
#

yh right

pale cosmos
#

I used to get 1440p 120 out of my old 1080

#

Ultra?

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It was pretty cranked

#

Probably changed a fair bit now but not enough to revolutionise the demand

#

I'd know if they did lmao

shell niche
#

what about the lg 27 240hz?is it a good alternative its 200usd cheaper in my place

pale cosmos
#

Go even cheaper

#

Ktc OLED is often sub 600

#

Near 500

#

Same panel as the LG

#

Comes with a better IO

shell niche
#

lg 27gs95qe-b this

pale cosmos
#

Yes

#

The ktc uses the same panel

#

The koorui one is quite nice too as is the aoc

#

Or if you're baller, fo27q3

shell niche
#

cant go qd oled my room is bright and color fringing is a problom fr me

#

like the text clarity

pale cosmos
#

QD OLED is the opposite

#

Woled has the problems vs QD oled

#

The ones you're describing

#

Quantum dots fixes it due to different sub pixel layout

#

Also if your room is bright I'd suggest against OLED altogether honestly

#

If you aren't regularly keeping brightness low, you risk burn in

#

Anything over 350 nits needs careful care

#

And not the same constant game for hours on end

shell niche
#

compered to w oled i have lg c1 and its amazing even in bright room i tried the fo27q2 and it was really bad in my room it had purple tint looked like ips and white text had some serious color banding my lg c1 doesnt have that at all even tho colors on the qd oled were better its just a dealbreaker fr me

pale cosmos
#

Gen 1 QD OLED had issues

#

Gen 2 you won't see things like that

#

OLED you will definitely have sub pixel issues

#

But if you want a bright screen for fast fps

#

Get a fast IPS with ulmb2

#

They don't look as nice but they won't burn in like a woled would in a bright room

#

480Hz+ULMB2+Fast IPS ≈ 240Hz WOLED/QD-OLED

shell niche
#

i still want w oled more i think

ashen crater
#

How does a mini led compared to a qd oled

#

Other than like no burn in and whatever

#

I know miniled has worse contrast but idk how much worse

dapper adder
#

Miniled is LCD with arrays of mini LED backlight for local array dimming

#

OLED is oled

pale cosmos
#

Usually worse

#

But significantly better than any other panel that isn't oled

ashen crater
dapper adder
#

Depending on how many local dimming zones there are

pale cosmos
ashen crater
#

I wanna get the one going for 190

#

Idk how that one would fare

pale cosmos
#

Best panel in the price range by a mile

ashen crater
#

Yeah i bought an ips panel like 2 months before i started seeing that thing pop up

#

Was.. rough timing

pale cosmos
#

Worth

#

I'd get that P3 if I didn't already have enough screens

ashen crater
#

I only have one monitor so i have every reason to pick that thing up

#

Dual monitor setup and id make that led my main

dapper adder
# ashen crater Yeah i bought an ips panel like 2 months before i started seeing that thing pop ...

Technically speaking
And I mean very technically speaking
If you can make a circuit board to replace the original circuit board and you put arrays of mini LED panels to replace the backlight of your ips panel and program in the logic to dim the appropriate locations according to what the display is showing at a low latency and everything that a whole r&d team has worked on for months or years, you could convert a regular ips display to miniled

pale cosmos
#

Then you could add an OLED layer

#

Oh and bezel-less

#

Give it a better heatsink

#

Upgrade the ports

#

Who does this

dapper adder
#

Don't even give it a case, just make it bare

pale cosmos
#

This isn't keyboard enthusiasts yo

daring zenith
#

Don't forget to pay HDMI for the royalties

ashen crater
dapper adder
#

I mean, didn't dell or whoever do like dual displays to get better contrast ratio

#

Somebody was like "yeah this is a great idea" and spends several million on r&d on a failed product

#

oh it wasnt dell, idk why i thought it was dell

#

it was panasonic

oak jungle
thorn grove
#

@neon root

thorn grove
neon root
#

what design did you put on the pad? PepeRealizes

neon root
thorn grove
#

designed pads in the 2000s left a bad taste in my mouth because of sensors in mouse were bad peepoGiggle

ashen crater
#

Recommendations for a budget microphone? 50-100 dollars would be perfect

oak jungle
#

Fifine something

#

Though $100 might actually get you something quite good I just forget the name

#

^

#

I think you need additional stuff for the sm57 tho

ashen crater
#

Probably a dac or something id assume

oak jungle
#
white flame
#

That link tho

#

better lol

ashen crater
#

Big links means big savings ong ong

ashen crater
oak jungle
#

Yeah

ashen crater
#

Might look at the shure as well

#

Listen to some sound tests

oak jungle
#

And the arm can be reused with a nicer mic if you ever decide to upgrade

oak jungle
ashen crater
#

Its a middling headset mic but good enough i can tell

oak jungle
#

If you're recording and editing content that's when you might consider a nicer setup

oak jungle
#

And if you already have a decent headset mic you could also play around with voicemeeter (free) to see if that would work instead of a whole new mic

#

Over covid when I had a lot of discord and zoom calls I used voicemeeter with my Razer headset mic

#

Got multiple compliments on it

ashen crater
#

Skip to the mic test if you want

#

Thats what im working with now

oak jungle
ashen crater
#

W/ a pop filter

oak jungle
ashen crater
#

The shure sounds really nice with a windscreen dang

oak jungle
#

I think this is the vid i used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEd7jw0uNE4

Voicemeeter, Voicemeeter Banana, and Voicemeeter Potato are extremely useful apps for any Windows user... however, they are so complex very few people stick to using them. In this video I explain how to setup Voicemeeter Banana with EarTrumpet and the Virtual Audio Cables to have a virtual mixer on your desktop computer. This is by far the quick...

▶ Play video
ashen crater
#

Ill try it

#

Might be better to save that money on something else tbh lol

#

Still would love to grab a dedicated condensor at some point tho

queen sigil
#

get a fifine and call it a day

#

cant be beat

#

the mic arm usually sucks pretty bad but i mean who cares

#

its 40$

#

for a mic and arm

#

if u do end up getting a heavier mic or something nicer i would upgrade to a gas spring like a the compass

#

depends how much moving around u do

pale cosmos
#

Tbh I'd suggest mixing software

pale cosmos
#

I'd put it up there with like a mod mic? Very very good, you just need to play with it, maybe noise treat the room a bit, get desk pads to avoid desk reverb

#

Stuff like that

#

You can have an excellent mic but crap sound treatment and it can sound worse than a $20 amazon no name mic that has a quietened room

pale cosmos
#

TIL Logitech still uses the same switches in every mouse

#

The same double click prone omrons

#

My mind just gravitated towards "Avoid"

#

Felix will remember that.

#

I've been told a few times that they've had revisions, turns out that doesn't matter

white flame
#

It's easy enough to change or repair the switches

restive quarry
#

What’s a good controller for pc? Not for fps but for single player games

pale cosmos
#

8bitdo

#

Kingkong pro

restive quarry
pale cosmos
#

If you pick their hall effect ones you're much less likely to get drift

restive quarry
#

Bet, thanks

oak jungle
#

For casual stuff I'd reccomend 8bitdo (doesn't have rear paddles). Ultimate 2C model has hall effect and is like $30

#

Oh it does have an extra set of bumpers though

ashen crater
#

Also i own the 2c and i love that thing, stupidly exceptional quality for the price

#

My only issue with it is the triggers feel a bit cheap, theyre still responsive tho

#

Id actually recommend it over the regular pro controller, its only weakpoint is 8bitdos miserable software and driver support

ashen crater
#

Ooo this is a good deal

#

Inside on left has damaged foam but that could be fixed pretty easy

#

Also its an hour and a half drive

#

Im tempted to message ngl

#

That price is alluring

thorn grove
#

@neon root AC2 glides nice so far

#

wonder how durable it is

#

it has creases

neon root
#

well they are shipped rolled

#

i think

#

forgor

thorn grove
#

it was

neon root
#

oof, thats been sitting for a while

#

could go away after awhile

ripe quarry
#

Its christmas list time, meaning my family is asking for lists, i want some perpherals, i would like a new keyboard, preferably full size creamy ish sounds, i dont want to mod it either. Perferably staying to the left side of $50, maybe at 50 or a little over that would be okay

pale cosmos
#

Well really any bad enough damage can misalign one, or gunk build up

#

Human use

#

Lmfao

dapper adder
#

not too sure if gunk buildup would cause it, but permanant magnets arent actually permanant either

pale cosmos
#

If I stuff my skin down the side of one opening of a controller I can guarantee I'd cause stick drift

#

But what do I win from doing that nothing

#

Only a hospital visit

#

Or I could be more sane and use copious dust

dapper adder
#

though hall effect sensors are way less prone to any sort of drift, due to it requiring a relatively strong magnetic field, as compared to the... i dont think they're called hall effect though they do use the hall effect physics that are more sensitive to the hall effect sensors lmao

#

most modern controllers have a sensor calibration thing built in anyways so any "drift" that you may encounter with hall effect due to any changes in the magnetic fields or whatever would be negated, at least once you run the calibration

#

which is also kinda why not all controllers are able to get a drop in replacement with hall effect joysticks

#

like the xbox one controllers, those dont have an easy way to recalibrate the joysticks

#

but microsoft added that functionality for the series controllers

pale cosmos
#

I just refer to Murphy's Law here tbh

#

While they're advertised as "Won't happen", never say never

#

Lol

dapper adder
#

oh it definitely wouldn't "won't happen"
maybe it won't happen before you break the controller completely KEKW but permanent magnets do slowly lose magnetism
though tbf even without intentionally breaking the controller, the controller would probably be worn out by the time the magnetism gets too weak? i mean, it takes like a century for neodymium magnets to naturally lose magnetism by half

pale cosmos
#

True

snow briar
#

True

hearty trellis
#

Hiya should I get a new Viper V2 pro for 80 bucks or a refurbished Viper V3 pro for 100? Or maybe other options?

pale cosmos
#

Both got very good sensors so if you want something pretty much endgame those are good

#

V3 is a little better, if you feel that's worth it

#

V3 pro for context

#

V2 pro is just a tiny bit more jittery but still very very good compared to the competition

#

I do suggest loading up the buttons how you prefer in synapse then uninstalling (nuking) that software tho, avoid any combos that need synapse open

#

Here's what the competition looks like:
(EDIT: The less smooth and close to the blue line that the aqua lines are, the less stable)

#

But ofc this depends on what's comfortable to you

#

This is under the assumption you like the shape of a viper, if you don't know? You might want to go to a store or ask around regarding your hand and grip shape

hearty trellis
#

For the reviews I've seen I belive it's fine

pale cosmos
#

V2 v3 same shape

hearty trellis
pale cosmos
#

Oh you know what I'm wrong

#

Nvm

#

They did change it

#

They went to the newer mouse button design

hearty trellis
#

Also to mention

pale cosmos
#

Looks closer to a DA v3 now

hearty trellis
#

For the 80 dollar price the V2 does not come with the hyperpolling dongle

pale cosmos
#

Ah yeah fair enough

#

If that interests you v3 then

#

In objective terms that's a worthy point of suggestion

#

Just make sure you're pretty comfortable with that sort of shape

#

I realise you said you can't test but returning exists

hearty trellis
#

So yeah....

pale cosmos
#

Ah yes the fabled buy from us friend

#

I know them from other friends haha

hearty trellis
#

Yeah Balkan doesn't really like to have options

#

The V3 pro is never in stock

#

And I'm not spending 150 on a mouse anyway

pale cosmos
#

Fair enough

hearty trellis
#

Original plan was to get a V2 but then I saw the refurb v3

pale cosmos
#

Well if you can verify your hand shape is pretty good for these then I don't really see why not

#

It shouldn't be much different from the v2, more comfortable I would say

#

Just make sure viper is a good fit for you cos a comfortable hand >>>> a good mouse

#

There are other mice that are comparable

hearty trellis
#

Rtings says it should be fine

#

In a mouse specific discord everyone just kept sending me ultra fingertip micr

#

That are tiny and unusable when not fingertipping them

pale cosmos
#

Ah yeah

#

I'm very much an ergo type mouse user myself

hearty trellis
pale cosmos
#

Totally agree

hearty trellis
# pale cosmos Totally agree

Thanks for the help man, im leaning onto the V3 for now even though it's refurbished. One guy told me the V2 feels a lot worse without it's hyperpolling dongle

pale cosmos
#

I'm gonna be real

#

The extra polling is not gonna be noticeable at all without some insane high fps rate lmao

#

4000Hz can be divided into your fps

#

So if you play a 144fps game, your mouse is updating it's position 4000/144 times

#

Which is like 28 odd? Times every frame

#

We are however talking in accuracy terms here but the V2 sensor wasn't wildly inaccurate at 1K polling

#

It's not as good as the v3 but it's very close

#

So some 28 chances for both mice with 99%+ accuracy to update themselves every frame leads into the world of overkill lol

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I'm not saying it's not worth doing, more accuracy, better response is a good thing

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But anyone saying they can feel the difference in what is essentially 0.025ms jitter has the reflexes of the actual divine 💀

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I would say the V3 is worth it but not because of what that guy told you lmao

shadow bane
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G305 lightspeed vs g502 hero? Or neither

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$35 and $40

dapper adder
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305 is pretty good value for your money if you need a wireless mouse
Not sure about the 502 though

shadow bane
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Idc much about wired vs wireless

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Honestly wired might be a bonus, not having my mouse die mid game

dapper adder
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Well, you will get a low battery warning

shadow bane
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My orochi v2 has one and it's a very unnoticeable red flash considering my hand covers the light

dapper adder
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Like, for me, after it warns me of low battery, it takes another like 2 weeks of use before it dies

shadow bane
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And that I don't tend to look at my mouse in a game lol

shadow bane
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I might not need a mouse but mine might be dying

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So im looking at some options

dapper adder
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Of course, I use it at a lower polling rate than most gamers, I have it set to like 250hz or whatever the lower but not lowest setting was

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And yeah 305

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I use it for my laptop

shadow bane
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Cool, ty for the info

hearty trellis
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I'm not even gonna run it at 8khz anyway

hearty trellis
pale cosmos
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Fair enough

hearty trellis
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Only a 1ms response time to clicks

pale cosmos
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Telling you man

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Razer is goated af if you ignore the software side of things

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The software, ass, long recognised fact

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But the mice, amazing

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They were born by the mice, they intend to die by them too

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Shame they didn't commit to gaming phones the same way, those old RP phones were amazing

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Literally the two best things they made imo

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Rest is meh or barely noteworthy

hearty trellis
hearty trellis
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And I like their headphones but I am switching my keyboard soon enough

pale cosmos
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I've used it all man, trust me, the best parts of razer are the mice alone these days

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The keyboards are getting better but they are still wayyyy overpriced for what they give

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The best combination imo is the mice but ditch synapse completely, use WDL for any rgb

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I used to use everything razer DogKek

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I got woken up out of the nightmare

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I say all this even with their newest stuff

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Good example, my $20 KSC headphones have better audio than most of all Razer's headphones in the last 5 years

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Only headphones I can't confirm that for are the new V4 Krakens (Good lord the price tag) or the Barracude chroma specifically

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The rest I have hands-on experience with DogKek

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And a bit of reading tells me they still aren't quite up to scratch

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Kraken v4 pro maybe, but still lacking for that price cos jeez

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Keyboard wise, I'll leave that one pending

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I have a new board coming in a few days, I'm retiring my modded huntsman mini analog

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Long never advocated for these but I'm moving on to something that should be way better

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Spent a ton modding this thing too to make it even a bit nice DogKek

hearty trellis
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And I wanna get a proper audiophile setup to replace my blacksharks

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Like a 100 dollar amp/dac and some open backs

pale cosmos
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Go get a Topping DX3+ Pro and a good pair of some nice vetted headphones

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Open backs you can get Senny HD's on sale quite regularly

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Koss make some nice stuff

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With a DAC you can look at DT's

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I think also audeze?

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Hifiman

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Much better choices

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Even IEMs

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If you don't mind in-ear headphones ofc

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Some IEMs can have phenomenal sound and you don't spend nearly as much for the set comparatively

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Though I couldn't give good suggestions there 'cos I have tried them too many times myself and never gotten comfortable, so I just don't buy them anymore

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Others here would have good suggestions for that tho

pale cosmos
hearty trellis
pale cosmos
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That's gonna sound nicer than a v3 from memory