old-cooling

[shrewd juniper]

Or they didn't know what they where talking about and wanted you to replace the parts with them lol

[halcyon gazelle]

What about arctic 34 eSports duo 🤔

[shrewd juniper]

Noooo

[uneven solstice]

I mean.. they gave me my first computer. Did all maintenance on it for free.

[shrewd juniper]

Meh cooler horrible pricing

[shrewd juniper]

Ntb

[uneven solstice]

Their son was my best friend and their daughter was my gf

[halcyon gazelle]

Alright let me check if ak620 will fit in my build lol

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh they probably just didn't know then lol I cannot see a single reason to leave it on unless it's doing something

[uneven solstice]

Alright. It was also 15 years ago. So I guess I could be remembering wrong, but I remember all of us just turning monitors off when we went to school/work. Maybe their pcs were doing something.

[halcyon gazelle]

Rip ram slots lol

[uneven solstice]

But I gotta hit the hay. Goodnight guys :)

[shrewd juniper]

Nah unless you have unreasonably tall ram it will be fine

Night

[halcyon gazelle]

They're Trident Z Royal

[shrewd juniper]

Should be fine

Most decent sized cases should allow a bit of room for the fan to slide up anyway

[halcyon gazelle]

Ordered one thanks

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[ebon summit]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190
Planning to replace the CPU fan on this, any suggestion for the same aesthetic?

thanks in advance

[shrewd juniper]

You don't want the same low profile aesthetic they're pretty meh, a tower cooler would be what you want
Id go with this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwqPxr/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-peerless-assassin-120

[timid carbon]

peerless assassin very nais

[ebon summit]

Checking that out now!

[low pumice]

Redux are the slower varients

therefore quieter

[shrewd juniper]

Honestly just get some arctic p14s instead

[shrewd juniper]

thats what p14's are for

theres 2 graphs in the pins if youre concerned

The ones in the pins

[nova peak]

That seems like a great price!

If you had just received a NZXT h510i Elite build, the one with removable front glass panel in front of 2 140mm fans, what would you all personally go with for cooler? Currently has a Cooler Master 212, 120mm fan. I have a Vetroo V5 available. Or go NZXT Kraken 280mm rad up front?

i7-9700K. Bios ez OC to 5ghz. Cinebench multi after about 30 seconds went to about 84c on 2 of the cores then shut me down. At 1080p gaming with a gtx 1070 I don’t think I will be doing anything as hard as cinebench.

[knotty sparrow]

I would get a new case and a $25 cooler like the vetroo v5

The case is the reason you're hitting thermal limits

@nova peak

[nova peak]

Fal! Good to see you! Omg I love this case. Im thinking about getting one of the flow through front panels and a magnetic filter. Not the one from the “Flow” case because you can’t buy them directly.

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah they do have the 3D printed front panel replacements, that would help

[nova peak]

I’m idling and gaming between 30-60c

The cooler master came with the purchase. I could swap it out for my Vetroo and I have a tube of the Corsair performance paste.

[knotty sparrow]

Which 212 is it? The Black one is the same tier as the V5

Eh, the regular one isn't far behind anyway

[nova peak]

Yea I think it’s just a black 212. Has 4 heat pipes. Not sure if it’s evo. The Vetroo of course has 5

[knotty sparrow]

You might also try reducing your core voltage a bit so it doesn't get so hot

The EZ OC is very likely far more voltage than you actually need

[nova peak]

I will def check. I’m still new to it all. I probably don’t need 5ghz anyway. Lol

The h510 elite did get bashed for the fans with solid panel in front. So if i do get a more open one it will put me back on the positive side

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah the front glass panel doesn't allow for any air at all so the fans are just spinning for no reason

In fact I've seen some cases where removing the front fans and having all exhaust was better

[nova peak]

There is about an inch wide strip down the side at the front for air to get pulled in, and also some underneath front. Both with filters. So def some air coming in

Just not as much as gamers nexus wanted. Lol.

[knotty sparrow]

Some air yes but independent testing shows it's not very much at all

The case works as a negative pressure case well enough for CPUs like yours, or get the aftermarket panel

[nova peak]

Sounds good to me Sir. You are the man as always.

[river canyon]

i just need 2 120 fans

what is a good brand to buy from

rgb btw^

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic P12

They have RGB variant

[river canyon]

cool

thanks

[quick fern]

i don't know if anyone would have any idea why i'm having a random issue with my cpu fan?
old computer, old cpu, old fan
suddenly today the fan gets really loud, it normally idles at around 1100 to 1400 rpm
but then it'll randomly start being really loud, while also being around 1100 rpm, cpu temp is staying under 60C

[knotty sparrow]

Sounds like the bearing could be going out

Certain types of bearing you can open up, clean, and lube and it'll keep working fine but others you can't open without breaking

[quick fern]

hm, might be better to just get a new one then i guess?

[knotty sparrow]

Probably yeah. Arctic P12 is the go to fan. Great performance at a good price.

[quick fern]

the arctic alpine 12 lp?

[knotty sparrow]

https://amazon.com/dp/B07GB6D7VQ

[quick fern]

o.O for a cpu fan?

[knotty sparrow]

Oh wait it's the cpu fan lol

Well yes you could put that on a tower cooler, but what kind of cooler do you have already?

[quick fern]

just whatever comes with an i5 2500k i think

[knotty sparrow]

And what case? Would a tower cooler fit or is it smaller than average?

[quick fern]

it's a full sized tower case, The Antec 600 v2
had to look it up lol -.-

[knotty sparrow]

Ok cool that supports up to 175mm coolers

I'm guessing you don't have RGB control

[quick fern]

just want something cheap / relatively quiet, need to get a new pc once i can afford it

[knotty sparrow]

Various colors available https://amazon.com/dp/B086WNPXVP

[quick fern]

and installing a new cpu fan is relatively easy?

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah. You'll just unscrew the old one, wipe off the old paste, attach the new bracket and fan. I believe the new paste comes pre-installed.

[quick fern]

alright thanks for your help

[knotty sparrow]

Happy to help

[spiral pebble]

is there much of a difference between aio and fan

cuz rn my friends telling me to not get aio cuz too much maintenance and it breaks down

is that true

also aio I was gg for was the nzxt kraken x53

[knotty sparrow]

Only bad ones break

And AIO is almost zero maintenance, you just have to blow out dust. You haven't had to fill them for years now.

[spiral pebble]

is the kraken bad

[knotty sparrow]

It's decent but overpriced. You can get it if you like the screen and feel it's worth it.

[spiral pebble]

ah

are there any more budget options that work just as good if not better?

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic liquid freezer II

Top tier

[spiral pebble]

I’m building on a budget rn so tryna spend the least possible on stuff like cooling, psu, case etc

[knotty sparrow]

What CPU is it for?

[spiral pebble]

I5 12600k

it’s what I’m planning to get

not too expensive and works v well ive been told

[knotty sparrow]

If you don't plan to overclock and the case fits a 280mm https://pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

If you want to overclock https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a

[spiral pebble]

tysm🙏🙏

[idle tiger]

Honestly, the 280/360 are pretty similar in surface area and cooling ability, I wouldn't worry about it and just buy whatever fits your case.

I think the 280 will have a more agreeable noise profile.

[shrewd juniper]

What thing?

Never seen it.... Looks ridiculous

[timid carbon]

why does the fan look as thin as the heatsync

[shrewd juniper]

Gammaxx 400/gte is usually a decent price and good

[low pumice]

Gammaxx isn't cringe, is actually decent :p

All the gammaxx 400 varients are decent

[shrewd juniper]

tbf gamemax is a brand

yup

[low pumice]

Misread lol

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah it's pretty understandable 1 letter difference like lol

[knotty sparrow]

I bet that's not programmable rgb and just has red, green, and blue LEDs

[magic sparrow]

inb4 it not even LEDs, just stickers

[dreamy locust]

How good/bad is the cooler master masterliquid 240mm?
I just found an untested one for 24€

[shrewd juniper]

Don't buy it for untested

Means it's probably broken

[dreamy locust]

I saw some bad ratings on Amazon due to water leak

Aah

[shrewd juniper]

It's meh anyway

Would be good for 24 but yeah nah

Don't buy untested products

[dreamy locust]

It looks like it hasn't been open from the photos

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't risk it still

[dreamy locust]

What about a a working Corsair h115... (Can't read full name from photo) 280mm for 25€

?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah if it's not marked as for parts or untested

[dreamy locust]

On the website where the I'm looking at there isn't untested, only the condition of the product
From photos it looks perfect and the description says it works

I'm going for this one

[shrewd juniper]

Sounds good

If it's not ebay make sure the site is legit

[dreamy locust]

Yes

Most used for selling used products in italy

I think the person who is selling it lowered the price because "a fan has been repaired but still works fine"

Idk

Could be

Compared to the arctic freezer 34 eSports duo how good is it?
I know comparing an air cooler to a water cooler its a completely different thing but...

[shrewd juniper]

Can always replace it with an arctic p14

Ehh it's say its a pretty decent upgrade

[dreamy locust]

Even if I don't mind changing my arctic freezer it would help even laying around when I work with PCs

Ok, I'm talking too much
Maybe he already sold it... 😅

[restive flower]

I dont know where to go to ask about this but I guess cooling is the best place, I just bought a Cooler Master Argb controller and it isnt recognized in masterplus and it makes my fans way louder.

[knotty sparrow]

Which controller? They have tons.
And how is it connected to your pc? USB, reset switch, argb header?
Are the fans connected to the hub as well?

[molten talon]

What's a good near silent 120mm fan that is in either black or white? My Corsair fans are really loud.

[topaz blaze]

https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Updated-AFB1212SHE-Cooling-Connector/dp/B07F7Z2YCM

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

(dont actually buy it)

[molten talon]

Now thats a quality fan

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12/p14

[restive flower]

@knotty sparrow sorry I know that was yesterday but its this one https://www.amazon.com/Addressable-Lighting-Magnetic-backplane-Addressble/dp/B08JQFKXYK/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=tdJlN&pf_rd_p=bb56b41f-df49-41e1-be0a-6aa8b5f2799c&pf_rd_r=2PNYQH5WG07QVAKK0WFG&pd_rd_r=c14aec30-5db2-433a-b884-db7ecde007ab&pd_rd_wg=scJel&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

[knotty sparrow]

Make sure you've got it connected to the motherboard for both the rgb and fan control, and whichever fan header you use set it to pwm mode in bios.
The rgb control will be through your motherboard software.

[restive flower]

Ok thank you it worked

[teal knoll]

Has anyone used PC Cooler RGB fans ? I accidentally bought the 3 fan kit instead of the 5 fan kit and can't find info about how to add a 4th fan.

[topaz blaze]

best budget fan?

[languid gale]

Arctic P12

[topaz blaze]

thanksa

[topaz blaze]

@topaz blaze https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC7P3HJ/

[knotty sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rpfhP6/arctic-p14-728-cfm-140-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00136a

[topaz blaze]

just rob a gas station lol

[left pulsar]

Tanker truck*. Sausage man, realize how much fuel is worth nowadays 🤣

[languid gale]

Nah think bigger, oil tanker

[tulip matrix]

Oil rigs even better

[languid gale]

Not thinking big enough, the Middle East

[tulip matrix]

Earth

[dreamy locust]

By considering the LL-120 (16led) with almost 40mA
40*16=640mA

@bright ether

That means each fan port should provide 0.5A, as said by the manual, maybe 0.5A is approximated

[bright ether]

Yeah that make sense

Then P=VI = 5v*0.5A =2.5W which seem responsable for RGB (right)

[dreamy locust]

The RGB strip o want to buy doesn't require much power

Only 5v 0.06A per LED

[bright ether]

That’s like nothing yeah more than enough

0.3w

[dreamy locust]

And considering I'm using maybe 16 LEDs out of the 100 it will handle it perfectly

[bright ether]

It should yes

[dreamy locust]

To get 5.0A with 0.06A LEDs I would need 85 LEDs

I'm never using that much LEDs

It's only for a "small" backplate

[bright ether]

RGB gaming

[dreamy locust]

More FPS

[topaz blaze]

Yea

Rgb more fps

[cold sundial]

what are good buget 120 mm fans that have some rgb?

[timid carbon]

arctic p12 argb

[karmic lagoon]

I need some help. I need a replacement Heatsync/fan for my ASUS M32 BF desktop. Am2/Am3. 4 pin. Anyone know of any compatible fans on Newegg.ca etc.?

[light fog]

Artic P12s or P14s if you want 140mm

[light fog]

That's maybe an 80-90mm fan.
I think Noctua makes some fans that size just find out the exact mm fan you need and I'm sure you can order it.

A mm measure is like $9.

Or just measure in inches and calculate the difference

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

Be quiet Silent wings rgb

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[dreamy locust]

Is there any good software for fan control
Both CPU fan and normal fans
Mine are spinning so fast that my R5 2400g is at 16C at idle

[shrewd juniper]

Bios best imo

[dreamy locust]

Unfortunately the stupid click bios 1 from MSI doesn't let you change fan speed 😐

[dreamy locust]

I can't even upgrade it

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh that's weird

MSI probably has a program on their own on your motherboards site

[regal rover]

Some Hubs have software that let you control fan speeds but not as granular as most bios options. And are often a choice between board controlled speed and a steady override speed you can set

Like the Lian LI hubs

But the CPU cooler fan you pretty much always want on the CPU fan header and running on its own fan curve, most motherboards won't even function if it doesn't detect something there

[dreamy locust]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/A320M-A-PRO/support

This is the latest bios version from MSI for a320m a pro

And it installs click bios 1 that's the same you find when you buy the motherboard

[dreamy locust]

I just downloaded a fan speed control software, it's easy to use but I still can't set the temp/rpm curve

My back fan starts to make strange sounds (like if it is constantly hitting something) only at >95% speed

Btw the software I installed is called "Fan control v110" (I found it on GitHub)

That's how it looks

Pretty simple design and very intuitive

[dreamy locust]

R5 2400g staying fresh with cinebench r23, 57°C with 60% fan speed
(Arctic freezer 34 eSports duo)

🥶

[magic sparrow]

Fan Control is way better then BIOS IMO. Way more options to do.

[left pulsar]

Ah bummer, btw rather than msi bios issue that's more a cheapo A320 mobo issue 😅

[dreamy locust]

Dell optiplex 3050 is just built different, it handles a overclocked i5 6500 under 60°C with such a cooler

It's like a stock cooler with a cover

And it is silent af

Want to know what's hidden under that thing

[left pulsar]

Hmm. That software you posted looks decent.

[alpine hornet]

so this was happening last night, anyone knows why? don’t talk about the background noise. it starts around halfway through the video

and it did start when i was playing msfs2020 which is interesting to me

i think it’s the aio cord things shaking

[shrewd juniper]

Can you describe the sound? I cant hear more than fans and a faint clicking?

[alpine hornet]

it starts like halfway to through, my phone has horrid audio capture. it sounds like a desiel engine

[opaque vessel]

hello

can you guy and girl help me with finding the best 30$ cpu cooler

[shrewd juniper]

Umm can you try capture it again? Maybe try take the side panel off to help get the sound

[shrewd juniper]

For what cpu and what country?

[opaque vessel]

i5 12600kf or 5600 x

[timid carbon]

what country

and also the i5 1200kf isnt a thing

[opaque vessel]

Saudi Arabia

[shrewd juniper]

12600kf?

[opaque vessel]

yeah sorry

[shrewd juniper]

They're not on the same level btw 12600kf should be way more expensive - will also require more cooling

[timid carbon]

depends on pbo on or off tbf

[shrewd juniper]

What's the prices of 12400(f), 5600 non x, 5600x and 12600k(f)?

Because 5600x should be noticeably cheaper

[timid carbon]

boards cheaper too

not jus cpu

[alpine hornet]

alright i will later i’m at school rn

also try turning your volume up to full

it starts at 5s

in

[timid carbon]

cant hear anything really

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah i tried that lol

[opaque vessel]

the 5600x is for 229.99$ and the i5 12600kf is for 269$

[shrewd juniper]

What about the 5600 and the 12400f

Because they're the real 2 you should be looking at for ~30$ coolers

12600kf would require like a 60$ cooler at least

And the 5600x is too much at 230$

[timid carbon]

would be fine with a 40 ish dollar cooler too

like the fuma

or the peerless assassin

[shrewd juniper]

They're not available outside the US

Fuma might be in Saudi but that's 50-60

[timid carbon]

fair

apparantly fuma is available in india too

costs more than lf 360

but thats another story

[empty quest]

Anyone know where I can get the second fan for https://www.newegg.ca/cooler-master-hyper-212-rgb-black-edition-rr-212s-20pc-r1/p/N82E16835103277?Item=N82E16835103277

[knotty sparrow]

You'd need a bracket for that second fan. Could probably 3D print one. Unless you want to hold it on with zip ties.

[shrewd juniper]

also if you havent bought it yet would highly advise against it unless its on sale or something for like 35-40 CAD

[alpine hornet]

@shrewd juniper

is that any better?

[shrewd juniper]

hmmmmm might be a dying fan or aio pump

[alpine hornet]

i think i might have found it

i put my@finger in a fan while turning it off and the noise stopped

while they were turning off

nvm

i’m gonna try that with every fan

we don’t mention my cable management

[knotty sparrow]

Cable management could be part of the problem actually

That could be a cable rubbing on a fan

[alpine hornet]

i also thought that

[empty quest]

It came with 2 extra brackets

I would need to find a adapter for the rgb and fan cables

[knotty sparrow]

So you have it already?

I'd just get an Arctic P12 rgb fan

[empty quest]

I need the dan itself and some sort of adapter

[knotty sparrow]

What motherboard do you have?

You can probably just use this https://www.amazon.com/RGBZONE-Black-Splitter-Connector-Strips/dp/B07C8GTP1J

Is the included fan rgb 3 or 4 pin?

[empty quest]

4 pin

[knotty sparrow]

You want this one then, it includes the daisy chain connector so you can tie both fans together on the same header and then the splitter I linked for the RGB
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08Y8MVJGS

[winter galleon]

Looking to replace the fans on my AIO as they are very loud as they are constantly speeding up and slowing down. Anyone got any good suggestions for some quite but good performing fans? I have a 240 mm AIO

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic P12

[left pulsar]

Yeah arctic P12, they have PWM models and also the PWM PST ones daisychain together to save mobo headers or something. 5pk for $30 is a good deal since they're usually $8+ each
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5

[knotty sparrow]

There's rgb models too

[tulip matrix]

I'm honestly tempted to finally cave back in to the rgb in my PC and swap all my p12s to RGB p12s

[nova peak]

Anyone here using a Kraken X63 280mm AIO in their NZXT H510 Elite case?

[knotty sparrow]

Well my first advice is don't

We have that emote for a reason

[nova peak]

I do have the front glass panel removed and have an aftermarket acrylic panel with airflow from Etsy.

[knotty sparrow]

Well that's better than stock at least

[nova peak]

Fal! You are always there with the best advice I swear.

[knotty sparrow]

I'm here a lot lol

[nova peak]

I don’t know…I run cinebench too much. Lol

[knotty sparrow]

What your question about the AIO though?

[nova peak]

I have my i7-9700K at 5ghz. Cinebech gets a few cores to 86 87 88c

Idle and gaming seem fine. I just found a really good deal on the kraken x63 and just seeing if it’s worth it

[knotty sparrow]

It should fit nicely in that case, especially since there's only one top fan at the rear so nothing to block

And it'll definitely lower your temps

What the price on the deal?

[nova peak]

This aio goes in the front right?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes

So if you have a long gpu it might block

[nova peak]

I thought so. Didn’t know what you meant by top fan at the rear

[knotty sparrow]

Above your cpu fan, that one

[nova peak]

Yea it’s a 140mm as exhaust. 120 in the back also as exhaust

[knotty sparrow]

A lot of cases will have one next to that but that space is empty on your case

Makes it easier to fit a radiator on the front

[nova peak]

I read that it’s not too hard. Especially since case and aio match

Used x63 non RGB. For around $60-$65

I’m still confirming condition.

[knotty sparrow]

Make sure it's not more than 2 years used

Any more than that and you might have to fill it depending on how well it's sealed. Which is rare but sometimes you do.

[nova peak]

Copy that. Was wondering if I will need to replace water. Or a different solution. This would be my first aio install.

[knotty sparrow]

Normally you don't but when it's used it's hard to tell the condition of it, but if it's less than a few years old it's probably fine unless the tubes popped off or got kinked

Or if the pump is dead... there's no saving that and it's impossible to know without a video with audio of it running and showing temps

[left pulsar]

Old and/or used aios can possibly be dicey for sure

[nova peak]

Yea. Def gonna do my best to check condition before purchase. Thanks all!

[knotty sparrow]

Liquid freezer 280 is always a good choice if that falls through

$100 right now for non-rgb and $120 for a-rgb

[nova peak]

Oh awesome

[shrewd fjord]

nvm

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fLFKHx/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-v2-6559-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a18pc-r2

is this good

[strange flume]

Meh

[knotty sparrow]

Not really, it's loud

Pumps are known to fail

All the V2 fixed was the leaking and the fans

[strange flume]

Do you want rgb instead of the Arctic one @shrewd fjord ?

[shrewd fjord]

any ideas

im going with the 4000d

i have a dust problem

in my pc

/airflow

[strange flume]

4000D can take bigger aio's

[shrewd fjord]

for front right?

[strange flume]

Yeah

How about this one Noirnit:
https://www.newegg.com/p/37B-000B-003G3

Was gonna also post galahad but more pricey

[knotty sparrow]

3900x without overclocking doesn't get too hot, you could do a 240mm liquid freezer

[shrewd fjord]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system-icue-h150i-elite-capellix/p/N82E16835181203?Description=360mm&cm_re=360mm-_-35-181-203-_-Product

[knotty sparrow]

If you wanted to save some money

[shrewd fjord]

yea

[strange flume]

150i works too

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah but icue lol

[shrewd fjord]

yea

[strange flume]

4000D anyway

[shrewd fjord]

yea

i wont see it

also

[strange flume]

Oh well I guess if you don't use the 4000d controller

[shrewd fjord]

???

same thing?

[strange flume]

Arctic also has a 360 option

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-pump/p/2YM-004H-00016

Arctic OP btw

[shrewd fjord]

Ill consider

getting an aio

i dont think i really need one

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099RSPC2H

[strange flume]

One has mesh front the other glass, mesh is better (top one)

[knotty sparrow]

The 280 is only a few $ more than the 240 today

[shrewd fjord]

if i get the 280

i have to put it on the top right?

[knotty sparrow]

You don't have to

But you can

Or on the front

[shrewd fjord]

its gonna miss a fan

[strange flume]

280's are quieter than 360's

[shrewd fjord]

no?

[strange flume]

For mostly the same perf

[knotty sparrow]

Not a lot of space missing there

[knotty sparrow]

No really, 280 is quieter because 140mm fans are quieter

But on the flip side if you do the 360mm you can run the fans slower and it balances out

[shrewd fjord]

Hm

ok

thanks dude

[knotty sparrow]

The 360mm is also a higher price, by a lot. $160 for the same thing in 360mm instead of $120 for 280mm.

[shrewd fjord]

come to think of it

i might just get noctua coolers

fans

[knotty sparrow]

NH-D15?

[shrewd fjord]

after i save some more money

[shrewd fjord]

yea

or fans

with the aio

[knotty sparrow]

You could just get a strong air cooler for your cpu, no real need for liquid

[shrewd fjord]

Yea

I dont think i need an aio

[strange flume]

If you're gonna spend up on fans, get T30's

Or p12's

[shrewd fjord]

why are noctuas brown tho

like

cmon

[strange flume]

That's their branding

[shrewd fjord]

thats weird

[strange flume]

White noctua's any day now

[knotty sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-nh-u12s-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s

Or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a

Either one would handle your cpu fine

Cheaper than an AIO

[knotty sparrow]

The second you see the fan you know it's a noctua, that's why

[shrewd juniper]

@shrewd fjord pricing on both the arctic freezer 34 and noctua u12s are pretty terrible, if it's a 12400 a gammaxx 400 would do fine... If it's something a bit beefier... Deepcool ak620

[knotty sparrow]

It was a 3900X

[shrewd juniper]

Then deepcool ak620

Or an aio would destroy both the coolers you linked

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah they shied away from the AIO, too many things to worry about I think

[shrewd juniper]

Ak620 is the 65$ nhd15 air cooler competitor

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah I'd forgotten about that one

[shrewd juniper]

I don't think that freezer 34 is capable of a 3900x tbh

[knotty sparrow]

It's not as hot as zen 3, it would be ok at stock

[shrewd juniper]

Mmm idk freezer 34 is pretty meh for the price iirc

All core load that is

Or if it did it would be pretty spicy

Yeah only 4 heat pipes

[knotty sparrow]

The duo was alright

https://youtu.be/bJaJeP7bylE

Called it a direct competitor with the U12S

[shrewd juniper]

Fair enough

[tough hollow]

cool

literally

[timid carbon]

yeah duo is great

much better than freezer 34

[sage ravine]

What's up everybody. So I'm looking for some opinions. Im currently running a 10700kf @ 5 ghz all core, on a 240 Cooler Master aio. It does a good enough job considering i have a fractal design meshify c (smaller mid case), and i also have my aio mouunted top for exhaust, as well as a 3070 pumping heat into my case. Cinebench R23 all core run, i see temps hit about 80-82c full load, mind you running a solid 5.0-5.1ghz. Im heavily considering ditching the aio, and grabbing the Dark Rock Pro 4. Im not quite as worried about sound as i am having some better temps at full load. Also, i wouldn't mind eliminating the Aio as a point of failure mostly because i have alot of times where my computer is on and running and im asleep or away from it. I'd really like to be able to juust throw the air cooler on and kinda forget it unless i need a repaste of something, ntm i plan on starting a new build soon so this system will prolly go to the kids. I guess im just asking if anyone has some experience with the DRP4 either on this chip or in general, Thanks!

[shrewd juniper]

Nah would be a meaningless expensive swap really, DRP4 is pretty poor value anyway for a top tier air cooler... Deepcool ak620 would be the choice and your temps are perfectly reasonable

[mint spire]

is the spacing between the ports on 420mm radiators the same as 360mm radiators or are they further apart?

[knotty sparrow]

Between what ports? The water inlet and outlet?

It depends on the model

[woeful galleon]

what's a gud cooler for the i5 12600kf

[shrewd juniper]

Deepcool ak620

Arctic liquid freezer 280mm/360mm

[timid carbon]

Simp

[shrewd juniper]

Great and cheap boi how could you not

[timid carbon]

I have enough in me to simp for only 1 man and thats ryan reynolds

[shrewd juniper]

Well it do be choosday init bruv

[molten talon]

is this a good aio? https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-P-GO360MPH_DWT01-Glacier-360MPH-Infinity/dp/B095XQC8VS/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3LDV1LQBT7EIM&keywords=360mm%2Bwhite%2Baio&qid=1650385644&s=electronics&sprefix=360mm%2Bwhite%2Baio%2Celectronics%2C435&sr=1-11&th=1

[shrewd juniper]

It's fine but i wouldn't recommend it too expensive, if you want white lian li galahad 360 is around that price but if you don't arctic liquid freezer and ek rgb are a lot cheaper

[molten talon]

Just trying to find a good white 360mm aio for around that price

[shrewd juniper]

Then lian li galahad

[molten talon]

Alright

[uneven solstice]

Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 keeps my 12600k from hitting 60c under load in a 27c ambient room.

Overclocked to 5.2ghz all p cores and 4ghz all e cores.

[bright ether]

I second the arctic 🥶

[tame glacier]

artic is goated

[topaz blaze]

artic kinda

[marsh badge]

liquid freezer lives up to its name

[topaz blaze]

ngl, ive bought evga clc's over the liquid freezers 2 times now

[bright ether]

i have an i7-10700F and it maxes out at 60 C on a 240mm arctic II rad

[knotty sparrow]

They're ok if you swap the fans to Arctic P12/P14

Stock fans pretty loud

[topaz blaze]

yea it's definitely loud lol

still performs good

[latent lichen]

Corsair ML120 or Arctic P12 PWM PST CO?

[timid carbon]

p12

[latent lichen]

👍

[knotty sparrow]

https://youtu.be/uDPKVKBMQU8

Use at your own risk, as with any third party software. It's nice to have cross platform options and a higher degree of control.

[nova peak]

Use this channel at your own risk! Fal'Cie will be here to help you whether you like it or not!

https://tenor.com/view/dr-d-yayaya-aw-yeah-dr-disrespect-2time-back-to-back-champion-gif-15872944

[topaz blaze]

[uneven solstice]

That looks awesome. Will be checking it out when I get off work

[shrewd juniper]

Ak620 baby brothers 👀
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PCWK7SP

[left pulsar]

That seems pretty good for $35. Funny the base heatpipes aren't completely together, overall looks decent. The darn peerless assassin is also often $37 after coupon, at least was a while back

[white ore]

i have a really stupi\d question ...

I bought a MSI Gaming Desktop Aegis RS 11TF-223US Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11700K (3.60 GHz) 32 GB DDR4 2 TB HDD 2 TB PCIe Gen3 SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-bit more than a few months ago ... not quite a year, but the logo on my liquid cooling is not lighting up ... does that mean my liquid cooling isn't working or just it is working but not lighting up?

the fans light up and spin, so idk if it actually is broken or if it is just being lit up

[knotty sparrow]

It's probably working and just not lighting up. If it was lit before there might be a loose wire.

[white ore]

that is the issue though ... i don't remember if it was lit up

[knotty sparrow]

Do you know what liquid cooler it is?

[white ore]

is there a way to tell if it is working without necessarily downloading any software?

[knotty sparrow]

If not DM me a pic of it

[white ore]

i do not. i only know what it is from my order

i'm actually in class right now and not at home. umm

[knotty sparrow]

Ok you can send it later, no worries

[white ore]

i found the picture on my order

[strange flume]

Ooo AK400 👀

[white ore]

?

[topaz blaze]

why is there no P12 emoji in this server

😔

[low pumice]

also need a12x25 and nidec gt's and t30's then

[subtle flower]

I need better cooling for my 12600k

92°C gang boring

Dark rock 4 be suffering

[shrewd juniper]

There's an lf2 emote?

Oh yeah dark rock non pro 4 isn't chonky enough

[subtle flower]

It handles it at locked 5ghz @1.28v barely but apparently 12600ks are guaranteed 100mhz all core overclocks according to Intel (which sounds like Intel just didn't want the heat spec)

I should probably upgrade

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB - Multi-compatible all-in-one CPU AIO water cooler with A-RGB, Intel & AMD compatible, efficient PWM-controlled pump, fan speed: 200-1800 RPM, LGA1700 compatible https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WRWNNZ9/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_9KG5CZ89QZ04DHSJPASP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Should I get? I'm tempted

[knotty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[subtle flower]

I did it

Same day shipping is heccin EVIL for impulse buying

I could install this today if I buy it, may even be here when I wake up

[knotty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/good-good-evil-smile-evil-grin-racoon-gif-17020508

[topaz blaze]

Those fingers

[subtle flower]

It blends in nicely

Now that I have the cooling I might as well go out and buy a 12900k

But then my GPU won't match so I'mma need a 3080ti at least

But then I'll also still be at dumb ddr4 4400 cl16 I'll need to upgrade to ddr5

Which means I need a new motherboard so might as well spend a grand on the motherboard to go all out

[knotty sparrow]

If you give a mouse a cookie...

[subtle flower]

after 4 passes I was sitting around 88-94 all cores at 4.9ghz 1.28V with my current air cooler

Lets see what it is after the change

before anyone comments I have an emotional connection to core temp and refuse to use anything else

It was the program I first used for my first computer back in 2011

I'mma miss how clean. This looks in my dark themed build though

My cooler look pretty already QwQ

WTF they give you a full gram of mx 5 with the cooler??

Why tf do you need a full gram of it

How did they get that in there? How do I remove the fan mounts for this case?

They got a really chonky 360 in there I know it's possible

Oh the front mesh pops off, let's see if I can do that

Can you tell where my fan was?

[zinc mesa]

This is the most confusing message/story ever...

[subtle flower]

I'm just rambling

So I think I hit a snag

I think I have to remove my HDD cage for 360mm radiators...

[knotty sparrow]

What case is it?

[subtle flower]

Purebase 500DX

Problem is I have 12TB of storage in that cage

Unless it can mount in the other direction on the fan mount???

IT BARELY FITS NVM

[knotty sparrow]

Oh cool

[subtle flower]

The mesh panel is extruded like an inch

The cover I mean

I think I have to keep the additional removable mesh cover off though let's see if this works

Nope still too thick...

Someone told me this case was compatible with 360mm AIO and I didn't ask anything further

It fits without the hard drive cage...

Idk what to do about this now

Do I say bye bye to all my storage?

I HAVE A SOLUTION

There's 2 sets of mounting holes for my hard drive cage

Radiator fits without the fans

Fans can go to the other side of the fan mount in a push config

This will barely work lol

[knotty sparrow]

I was about to suggest that too

[subtle flower]

Apparently they have a cage for this case that can hold 5" archival drives

That's what the third hole is for but my cage still will mount like that

If be quiet didn't have an even larger cage option and didn't have that third hole I'd be screwed rn, look how tight of a fit that is LOL

[knotty sparrow]

That's practically touching lol

[subtle flower]

I'd say 2 mm gap

It's really tiny

Should be fine, this should actually cool my drives down

Now they actually have a fan even if CPU air is passing through

[knotty sparrow]

Warm air is better than no air

[subtle flower]

Exactly

This radiator should boost system thermals

My singular front fan is being replaced by a 360mm aio

And that front fan is becoming a second top fan

@knotty sparrow the dust cover even closes over them!

I got my hard drive cage AND my dust cover on

According to bequiets info page this case is only supposed to support 240mm AIO with the cage in so HA

Absolute THICC radiator though like holy crap

If this thing can't cool my 12600k on max power draw with a .15V overclock nothing can lol

[knotty sparrow]

Noice

[subtle flower]

1.4 volts at 5.4ghz here we come

Tempted to use liquid metal for the TIM between ihs and cooler

Sadly now I'm limited to a 3090

3090ti will be too long to fit in here sadly

Whatever will I do

[subtle flower]

YO

Artic does the washer trick for their mount!

It comes with the .5mm paper washers

Okay so I know it's supposed to be tubes down but because of this fit I literally can't do tubes down

Is tubes up (towards top instead of towards bottom) going to affect things that much?

[strange flume]

nope

[subtle flower]

It's finally in there completely

Now I bet it's not going to boot but I wonder why

It booted but my CPU hit 90 degrees in bios so mount has to be bad somehow

[sacred wren]

Did the fans spin in the aio?

[subtle flower]

Yeah but even then

If they didn't there's water in the block

It shouldn't act immediately like that

WTF the thermal past didn't spread at all

Those screws were all the way down too

[knotty sparrow]

Time to double check the directions. I had that happen once, I had a bracket upside down lol

[subtle flower]

I might have the wrong standoffs inserted let me see

Yeah so taking the height of the thermal paste that touched

I'm probably 5mm off

[jolly dragon]

And here I was gonna grumble because one of Fractals AIOs was difficult to fit into a Fractal case. Compared to the issues this combo's giving you, I had it easy.

[subtle flower]

I had CPU block brackets upsidedown. Very slight curve to them. I think it's working now

27°C sounds reasonable to me for idle

[knotty sparrow]

Yep figured 🙃

Happens to the best of us clearly lol

[subtle flower]

WTAF

It's idling 2° above Ambient???

It used to idle at 31° how is it idling at 23°

It's hitting 68° under full load QwQ

That's only 20° of overclocking headroom I'm screwed

How much you wanna bet prime95 still maxes the temp at 4.9ghz 1.28v lol

[knotty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-almighty-jim-carrey-beautiful-happy-smile-gif-4874848

[subtle flower]

5 minutes in

Max temp is 71° on hottest core

And I used mx-4 cause I had to reapply and it's all I had left (out of kyronaut)

So I could probably even squeeze more out of it

I'm just doing cinebench rn

[knotty sparrow]

MX-4 is maybe 2-3 degrees difference under load compared to MX-5 or kryonaut

[subtle flower]

Okay score is the same for cinebench

18.2k multicore

Which makes sense just wanted to make sure my clocks weren't being weird

[knotty sparrow]

Time for XTU tuning? Or are you going for all core manual?

[subtle flower]

First I'mma do 5.1 1.3v

See if it sticks

I prefer bios overclocking then xtu for tuning

[knotty sparrow]

XTU is only nice for setting the boost for certain loads

So you could set 5.4 on 2 core load and 5.1 all core or something

[subtle flower]

Like I said

For tuning after I get all core stable

YO

LOOK

That's for p95!!!

[knotty sparrow]

Very nice for a power virus

[subtle flower]

Yeah literally

Let's see how much power xtu says it's guzzling

[knotty sparrow]

180W according to core temp, shouldn't be too far off

[subtle flower]

XTU says 183 so yeah

Alright this thing can handle 180 watts, I hit 85° too

The moment I stop p95 it goes immediately down to 25°

[knotty sparrow]

That's almost as much power as a 5950X uses btw

On a mid-tier chip ☠️

Can't deny the performance at least

[subtle flower]

Tbf

It's less than the 10850k at full load

And it destroys that chip

And I have voltage increased

[knotty sparrow]

Generational gains are nice there yes

[subtle flower]

Stock power limit is 150 watts

I am feeding it extra

and I think it wants more

[knotty sparrow]

I'm feeling 5.2 from that chip

1.32v

Calling it now

[subtle flower]

That's it?

My last CPU was a 5.3 monster

[knotty sparrow]

That's still 300 MHz above the stock max single core, on an all core

[subtle flower]

8600k silicon lottery G O D

5.3ghz 1.42 volts

Stable no avx offset >:)

Okay falcie I've never really done AIO on an enthusiast level. Should I mess with the fan curves for the fans or just leave them at default?

[knotty sparrow]

If the noise doesn't bother you default is fine

[subtle flower]

Default was just max speed but artic fans aren't too loud it seems

And my case has HEAVY noise dampening

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah the LFII comes with those nice P12s

[subtle flower]

I can't even hear my 8TB HDD spin up in pure silence

It's amazing

I love this case

[knotty sparrow]

Max speed all the time? That's bad for fan life

[subtle flower]

Also

How bad is it to run fans at 12v instead of 7.2

[knotty sparrow]

They're specced for 12v

[subtle flower]

Oh by default for pump speed

Smart fan is off for pump fan speed

It just goes for it

[knotty sparrow]

Pump at 100% is fine

Some pump headers won't even let you set a curve for that header

[subtle flower]

Is this fine to leave then

[knotty sparrow]

Do you have the AIO fans plugged into the CPU fan header?

[subtle flower]

No they come from the radiator...

They already came daisy chained from the radiator block

[knotty sparrow]

Ohhh right it's that one

[subtle flower]

Yeah I think the pump block may choose the speed it wants to do

Since it's controlling the fans too

Besides max pump fans = more inflow for a positive airflow config :D

[knotty sparrow]

So if you have that header on PWM I think the pump just runs 100% and the fans take the PWM signal

[subtle flower]

Alright well that's fine by me

That'll cool the entire system better

WOAH

The back of my system is DRAFTY

It's like my desk fan on low wtaf

[knotty sparrow]

Dat pressure

[subtle flower]

It's so much air????

[knotty sparrow]

That's what happens with P12s lol

[subtle flower]

Top is pull (I think, what ever was default from BQ) front is pull rear is exhaust

And it's just

So much positive pressure

I wonder if my GPU temps have gone down significantly

Because this airflow is actually ridiculous

[knotty sparrow]

Maybe, since it does end up pushing some of that pressure through the gpu fins

[subtle flower]

It's like I have a 5 watt desk fan inside my rig that's how much in talking

It's literally pushing so much air through that it's making a piece of paper flap

Yo I lied

It's not on 1.28 for 4.9 all core

It's at 1.255

[knotty sparrow]

Droop?

[subtle flower]

That's so much lower than I thought wtf

Time to crank it up ig

[knotty sparrow]

Yep nothing for it but to push it right?

[subtle flower]

Apparently in guaranteed to hit 5ghz all core

Intel said all 12600k are guaranteed 100mhz

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah that should be easy even without voltage change

[subtle flower]

I think they binned them all for 5ghz and then went

"oh hecc it's pulling 160 watts as an i5"

And figured they'd get cremated by reviews for even more power draw

Cause why not just make it run at 5 if you bin then to 5, right?

[knotty sparrow]

Because then why would you buy the 12700F, that also only clocks at 4.9

[subtle flower]

That's fair

[knotty sparrow]

12700K is 5.0 too, why would you buy that if the lower tier chip is the same spec

Artificial market segmentation is Intel's game

[subtle flower]

It's so dumb you can tell they were going to make the 12600k 5ghz

Cause they wouldn't flat out tell people they can all hit 5ghz guaranteed

Ouch that voltage increase hurt a little

74°C full load rn

76 QwQ

[knotty sparrow]

My 5800X living on a 240mm be mad jealous rn

[subtle flower]

LOL

My CPU faster than yours and saves me money in heating during the winter!

[knotty sparrow]

That's ok my gpu makes up for that

[subtle flower]

Don't bulli my 3070 it tries

[knotty sparrow]

I didn't run my heater once this winter, I was mining lol

[subtle flower]

It's hooked up to a 4k 144hz display it knows it's not enough LOL

8 minutes max temp of 80° on one core

I'm ruined

Okay time for p95's maximum heat test

HOLY

198 watts wtfff

I increase voltage to 1.28 and it pulls 200 watts on p95

That's more than my sister's i5 6400 gtx 1050 rig at max load LOL

89°C

On p95 that's not too bad

[knotty sparrow]

Every day I'm throttlin'

[idle tiger]

https://i.imgur.com/rApqqQ8.jpg

[hard dune]

does anyone have a recommendation for an aio for an amd cpu?

[knotty sparrow]

Which CPU exactly?

[hard dune]

i have a ryzen 7 3700x

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 or 280mm. You can go 360mm if you want.

[hard dune]

okay, thanks for the recommendation. i appreciate it

[topaz blaze]

@hard dune gojo

[marsh badge]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/enermax-liqmax-3-recall

cloggermax

[timid carbon]

LMFAO

3rd times the charm maybe?

[shrewd juniper]

I think enermax has 1 good product lol

[timid carbon]

revo df

❤️

[shrewd juniper]

Yup

[marsh badge]

ye

[uneven solstice]

If I'm only going to use one color in the fans do I need to spend the extra $ on a-rgb or will rgb suffice?

[left pulsar]

Bingo

[uneven solstice]

I may as well go for the argb.. got to looking and its only $10 more

[brisk rain]

Anyone know where I could find a single 40mm rad?

I've found dual 40mm, but I was looking for smaller

[shrewd juniper]

What are you gonna be cooling? An ssd lol?

[brisk rain]

3D printer

The faster and more consistently you can cool the filament coming out of the hotend, the better the print quality is

So I figured why not plug it into an old sub ambient loop lol

[shrewd juniper]

I'm guessing a 120mm is too big?

[brisk rain]

Main issue is mass. It'll be going on the print head itself, and f=ma

Also if it sticks out too far torque will probably start showing up

[shrewd juniper]

Right

Have you checked the usuals? Alphacool, corsair, ek, byski?

[brisk rain]

2x40 could probably work, alphacool had some of those. EK and Corsair didn't look like they carry anything that small

Need to check byski

[brisk rain]

Nothing at byski

[knotty sparrow]

I found a single 50mm model

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/50mm/19379/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-50mm-single-radiator

[shrewd juniper]

it looks like a usb kek

[brisk rain]

It really does lol

That's probably the best option I've seen

[idle tiger]

That looks ridiculous

[marsh badge]

that looks like a huge usb drive

[topaz blaze]

and people said 120mm rads were ineffective

[left pulsar]

Well they often were for most cpus.

[marsh badge]

this is dummy thick tho

[left pulsar]

Dummy thick 120mm rad like a pencil-neck 240, lol

[dreamy locust]

whats a good and small cpu cooler similar to the Noctua NH-L9x65? something that has similar performance, size and a lower price

atually, possibly the same size

also... is the noctua worth for a 2400g? or will a stock cooler be fine?

i know the 2600 (which should be similar to the 2400g) reaches 65-70°C with stock cooler

[knotty sparrow]

70C is fine, a stock cooler will handle that fine

[dreamy locust]

ok but inside a mini pc (about 25x25x8cm)

will it be fine if i add enough small fans?

id like to 3d print the case

[dreamy locust]

how big is the wraith spire fan? 85?

[knotty sparrow]

The diameter of the fan is 92mm and the height of the cooler is 71mm

[dreamy locust]

perfect, thank you

now ill make the 3d model of the mini case

[shadow jasper]

hi hi !!! what sort of stuff cools a 12600k nicely?

[marsh badge]

You need an AIO

At least 280MM

[knotty sparrow]

If overclocking yes, but they were planning on a B660 board with it

[marsh badge]

ah

[shrewd juniper]

Nice cheap option is deepcool ak620 otherwise arctic liquid freezer ii - might as well go largest size your case fits because they're all around the same price

[shadow jasper]

yes, this is the build list I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XqTPFg

overclocking does not interest nor concern me

[shrewd juniper]

If you can return the cooler do this and especially case, that case is horrible...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdRgBj

[shadow jasper]

the case is definitely not the most friendly to build in yeah theres better ones

i just already own the case

and really like the way it looks and fits on my desk

[shrewd juniper]

My list has a new case + far better gpu and it's only 40$ more, granted only 1tb ssd but you can upgrade that in the future, worth spending more for a way better gpu

Also the case you have is horrible for temps

Oven

[shadow jasper]

is it?

i thought it would be good since it has six fans

i must be mistaken

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah there's nowhere for air to be pulled from

Fans don't do anything if you can't pull in fresh air

[shadow jasper]

the fans seem to pull air from the bottom and exhaust out the sides

the case you selected looks much nicer though

[shrewd juniper]

Still very meh

It's worth investigating in a nicer case

[shrewd juniper]

And way better temps

[shadow jasper]

That’s what I mean

[copper vigil]

can some one recommend me a water cooling sistem

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer ii, the biggest you can fit in your case

[copper vigil]

thx

[shadow jasper]

didnt be quiet! make some liquid coolers recently?

[shrewd juniper]

They have aios yeah, don't compare to arctic tho

[shadow jasper]

hmmmmm i seeee

i only know about storage and power tools lol

[shrewd juniper]

Top 3 aios are arctic, ek rgb and lian li galahad in that order with arctic and ek tying basically, arctic wins on and slightly, galahad very close behind tho

[copper vigil]

i meaned whit tubes whit water

[shrewd juniper]

Yes you're thinking of an AIO cooler which is what i recommended

Looks like this

Slightly bigger there

[copper vigil]

i meaned the glass or plastic (transparent) ones

[marsh badge]

what?

did you mean ones with a screen?

oh wait

those ones with clear tubes?

those are custom loops

they're more expensive and much harder to install

[copper vigil]

yes

[marsh badge]

you need to get tubes, block, pump, radiator and coolant on your own

[shrewd juniper]

Do you mean a waterblock like for graphics cards for a custom loop?

[copper vigil]

no

i am bum at explaining

[shrewd juniper]

Well you said yes here so that is a custom loop

[marsh badge]

Something like this?

If so, this is a custom loop

[copper vigil]

yes

[shrewd juniper]

That'll cost at least 350-400

[copper vigil]

is not that bad

[shrewd juniper]

It is

350-400 is being generous on the low side

[marsh badge]

just mind that it's gonna be difficult to install

if you're not confident, i'd suggest hiring someone to install it for you

[copper vigil]

Yes i'l hire somone

[shrewd juniper]

Cpu block 80$, gpu block 150$, 360mm radiator, 80$, tubes + fittings, 80$, liquid 30$, fans 30$ and you really wanna do 2 rads and another set of fans

[azure crown]

hiring for that is 100% not cheap

i dont even know where you would go for that sort of thing

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhh not exactly something most ppl are comfortable with, not something a best buy/local shop would do for you

[marsh badge]

but yeah, you're in for a big spend

this stuff gets expensive quickly

[azure crown]

best option is an AIO

[shrewd juniper]

You'd have to find someone on reddit or fb marketplace or something

[marsh badge]

an aio is a fraction of the price

[azure crown]

or if you are brave, soft tubing

[copper vigil]

That is not a problem, i new one who nose

[shrewd juniper]

Soft tubing is a lot easier

[shrewd juniper]

Still there's no point unless you're running a 12900k/5950x/HEDT chip with a 3080 ti+/6900xt

Even then it's arguably not worth it

Bar the HEDT chips

[topaz blaze]

So my NH-D15 struggles to cool my 5900x

When I run it stock, I reach mid to lower 70s

[shrewd juniper]

Don't swear but just leave a letter out it's not allowed btw

And by push it i assume you mean pbo?

[topaz blaze]

Pbo kills it

Yes

And also when I manually oc

[shrewd juniper]

For pbo you want an arctic liquid freezer 360mm

[topaz blaze]

Like I go to 4.5GHz all cores

It goes to 80-90 degrees

[shrewd juniper]

Manual oc isn't worth it on ryzen unless you're doing it for only multicore

[topaz blaze]

Like when I get over 120W it doesn't want to exist

Is the Noctua performing like it should

Stock, it runs fine

Then idle spikes quite a bit

Goes from like 38 to 55 degrees

I checked the thermal paste today

There's more than enough

I had to reapply obviously

I don't think I really need to OC the cpu tho

Does PBO help a lot?

[shrewd juniper]

Yup you just need water cooling to get the proper performance out of high end chips

[topaz blaze]

Oof

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[topaz blaze]

Well good thing Ima start working soon

Can't really return the noctua

Since I won't have anything until I can buy the aio

Someone told me to get an alphacool eisbar

Why are there so many different arctic liquid freezer 2s on newegg

They are all 360

[knotty sparrow]

Different sellers

[topaz blaze]

What's the difference between rgb and the black

Rgb is cheaper

Normally it would be the opposite

[knotty sparrow]

Just the rgb

They're functionally the same

[topaz blaze]

But that's a good cooler?

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah top tier for sure

[topaz blaze]

Someone was saying the alphacool eisbar was good

Eisbaer

But it's so expensive

[shrewd juniper]

the black is out of stock atm so 3rd party seller

[knotty sparrow]

The LFII 360 is good enough for overclocking the 5950X or 12700k

[shrewd juniper]

its fine pretty normal

arctic wins tho

[topaz blaze]

All right then I'll have to look into that

Do you personally have the Arctic?

Cuz I'm planning on buying a 4000 series

[shrewd juniper]

nope dont have a high enough end chip to justify it yet

[topaz blaze]

Most likely a 4080

[left pulsar]

💸

[topaz blaze]

I start working soon so I'm going to get the Arctic liquid when I get paid

Kind of sucks that I just spent the money on the nhd15

Well you live and you learn

[left pulsar]

Noctua hype is real

[topaz blaze]

Yeah I kind of just learned that it's not that good

I mean it would probably be perfect for a 5800 X

[shrewd juniper]

people like LTT shill noctua, air can only do so much especially an older design, nhd15 v2 will be here soon

soonish

[topaz blaze]

I mean I guess I got 2 140 mm case fans

[left pulsar]

Personally wish I did FA/FC instead of the 4 heatpipe Frost Spirit, but almost doesn't matter for my cpu choice(s).

[topaz blaze]

I mean my other option that I was looking into was a custom Loop

But those are so expensive

[shrewd juniper]

not worth it

[topaz blaze]

Yeah because the performance difference isn't that much

Especially when you consider that the Arctic liquid is only like 150 bucks

[knotty sparrow]

Agreed, not worth unless you loop in other parts too and overclock a lot

[topaz blaze]

And I have a feeling that the 40 series cards will probably have to have a pretty dang good cooler stock

So unless I plan on liquid cooling that it's not really worth it

[knotty sparrow]

Ehhhh
It'll be the same as any other gen, some good some bad

[topaz blaze]

From experience MSI make some pretty good coolers

[knotty sparrow]

Ventus

[topaz blaze]

Just you guys replace their thermal paste

I have an armor 2070 and it idles at about 28 degrees and only reaches a maximum 50 degrees when running 3dmark or a stress test

This is after I replace the thermal paste

[left pulsar]

Suprim is the top msi cooler but tbh not the best, period

[knotty sparrow]

MSI has the worst cooler on their Ventus cards, cheap aluminum

[topaz blaze]

Yeah my friend bought a 3060

[knotty sparrow]

Also the 2070 doesn't get as hot as, say, the 3070

[topaz blaze]

And his cooler is not that great

Yeah that's true I was also looking at maybe an Asus or in a VGA

EVGA

God damn autocorrect

[left pulsar]

Asus Tuf/strix coolers good/great, evga good w/ warranty/service

[topaz blaze]

Oh this is going to require a new power supply probably my 850-watt super flower we'll probably not work for a 40 series

I figured that's 850 W would be perfect boy was I wrong

[knotty sparrow]

850 might still work for 4080

We still don't have definite info on that

4090 is expected to overclock at 600W but not 4080

[shrewd juniper]

idles are just an indication of room temp mainly

[shrewd juniper]

like msi, evga xc/xc3 is meh usable but not nearly as good as ftw3

[topaz blaze]

This all assumes they are even available

[left pulsar]

I figure just like the (some) FE needing adapter, 40 series will allow an adapter for current psus. Perhaps treat it like an extension actually. At this point a lot of people have gotten gpus they want. A big issue to 40 series might be price. Available probably better than most of 30 series life.

[topaz blaze]

okay it seem that the Arctic Liquid Freezer II is out of stock really everywhere

I don't want to buy from 3rd party sellers

[knotty sparrow]

100% the new GPUs will require the new 16 pin power, and will include an adapter.

[topaz blaze]

yeah

[knotty sparrow]

Can you fit a 280mm liquid cooler on your case?

[topaz blaze]

yeah

it's a 4000D

[knotty sparrow]

Amazon has the 280 for $118

[topaz blaze]

I just want to have the best performance out of my 5900x

[knotty sparrow]

ARGB

Yeah 280 is good for that

[topaz blaze]

I see that

I see a lot of EK

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099RSPC2H
Sold by Arctic

[shrewd juniper]

ek rgb is good aio too but price is meh

[topaz blaze]

yeah

the 360 would probably be better for me

based on reviews

I mean the 280 would fit on the top of my case

[knotty sparrow]

The funny thing is the 5900X doesn't get as hot as the 5800X

[topaz blaze]

idk

dude this thing gets pretty hot

[knotty sparrow]

Because it has 2 CCX's and each gets half the power so less heat density

[topaz blaze]

I guess that makes sense

I want to be able to use PBO finally lol

I still have to get paid for all of this

[knotty sparrow]

I use PBO on my 5800X with a cheap 240mm that I swapped the fans on

It barely throttles in cinebench

[topaz blaze]

I guess it depends on how hard I push it in PBO