old-cooling

[sacred wren]

Let me take a look, one sec

[hollow latch]

Since they have all the stocks on this one another shop but quite pricy

[shrewd juniper]

You'll have to look on shoppeee or something but yeah 3600mhz cl16 if possible

[hollow latch]

Noted will ask the shop tomorrow. Any other choice if ever they don't have?

[hollow latch]

Yes I asked them but they said no stocks

[sacred wren]

Either of these works https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

Cheapest 32gb 3600c16 kit I saw was 155$

[shrewd juniper]

Did you check on shopee?

[sacred wren]

If you want to spend the extra 40$

[shrewd juniper]

They're in Philippines bacca

[sacred wren]

Oh

Mb

[hollow latch]

No I'm buying all the parts from the shop haha

[hollow latch]

But g skill Trident neo RGB 16x 2 3200 C16 is good also?

[shrewd juniper]

Why? This looks like decent price
https://shopee.ph/Crucial-Ballistix-RGB-8Gb-16Gb-32Gb-3200Mhz-3600Mhz-CL16-Black-White-DDR4-RAM-i.617143295.15924376394?sp_atk=5913a50b-9d41-4de5-a19a-6690fb799e52

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on the price

[hollow latch]

Since they are the one building it haha

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh

[hollow latch]

I just indicated the parts

Should I just go with this or try to change the cooler to arctic if ever they have and a ram that is C16?

[timid carbon]

5600g on a 212 is a bad time

[topaz blaze]

@hollow latch Gojo 😳

[timber comet]

idk if this is the right channel but, my pc makes a kind of rattling noise, as if something is stuck in a fan, after I give it a light bump it stops for a while but eventually comes back

could it be a cooler fan that does the noise by itself?

checked mulitple times, all the loose cables dont hit the fans

[topaz blaze]

It could be a slightly loose side panel

[timber comet]

PSU fan should be fine

I bump it on the panel that doesn't open

[low pumice]

Could you try and pin point the noise?

[timber comet]

one thats behind the MB

[topaz blaze]

when it rattles again, try holding each side panel one at a time against the rest of the case and see if the noise stops

[timber comet]

i hope its not the gpu fan

Also is it bad if I opened a fan and lubed it?

[topaz blaze]

dont do that lol

[timber comet]

particularly the PSU fan, also blew off all the dust

[topaz blaze]

try to pinpoint the issue like 11 said

well, the source of the noise i mean

[timber comet]

I will if the noise comes back

but the fan has been running quietly after I lubed it like, a year or more ago

[low pumice]

Uh, how'd you lube them?

[timber comet]

used to good VW bearing lube

[hollow latch]

https://pchubpricelist.online/ can see the list here

[timber comet]

opened it

[low pumice]

Oh ball bearing fans?

[timber comet]

it didn't have ball bearings

the GPU fan has ball bearings, but I don't want to mess around

they're well over 250€ now

[low pumice]

Welp, if they were fluid bearing fans, if it worked, it worked

[timber comet]

and I bought it for 80€ like 1,5 years ago

I closed it back tho, it was all smooth

[low pumice]

Can't they put on something you buy from shopee?

[hollow latch]

Shoppee takes time to be delivered I think

1-2weeks

[low pumice]

Or just buy it from shopee yourself and put it on yourself?

It should only be like 4 screws for installation, and taking off stock cooler should only be 4 screws

[hollow latch]

Yes but what model ? Maybe they have since they have a lot of coolers this shop I guess?

[low pumice]

Freezer 34 duo for nearly same price as 212

[hollow latch]

3600 gskill trident neo CL16 is really expensive ?

[low pumice]

Well, neo makes it expensive

3600c16 ballistix or ripjaws should be quite a bit cheaper

[hollow latch]

249$ for neo 16x2

[low pumice]

Too much

For reference, I paid around 150$ for the same thing

[hollow latch]

32 dual?

😱

[hollow latch]

So many duo

3 of it

[low pumice]

They're just different colors of the same thing, mainly interested in the duo ones

any of them, whatever color you want really

[low pumice]

my order from a while back

[tepid reef]

oh my lol i installed my top fans the wrong way

[low pumice]

But point is, don't grab neos for 250

[hollow latch]

Ya it's different now it's like twice the orig price by then

Haha

[low pumice]

its literally 165$ on newegg right now..?

but point is, its overpriced

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861

Go for ballistix or ripjaws 3600c16, it should be quite a bit cheaper

[hollow latch]

It's this one ?

[low pumice]

That's a start

Well, its better, but would've liked cheaper

[timber comet]

it seems to be the other side of the panel you can take off

its a whole piece

dang you fujitsu

[hollow latch]

Btw should I just buy the tray type of Ryzen 5 5600g?

Since I wouldn't be using the stock cooler or just get the one with box . Difference of 20$ only

[low pumice]

sure if you want

[autumn ember]

Could anyone help me figure out these Lian li sl 120 fan configuration should be just have a quick question about them

[nova peak]

Hey all. Is this enough paste? Too much? Thanks!

[low pumice]

A little more won't hurt, seems a bit on the low side, but you can put the cooler on, take it off, and see how well it spread

[nova peak]

Thank you!

[nova peak]

Of course I have to get the kids off the bus before I get to fire it up. Vetroo V5 incoming.

[nova peak]

It’s in! Dell Inspiron 3670. I know it’s only an i5-8400. Warzone temp max 55c. I’m idling at 29-33. Not bad for a prebuilt.

[low pumice]

Neat

[nova peak]

A small warning though…I had to “modify” the side panel. The top fins of the cooler were a tad too tall. It’s a good thing they were right underneath a grill on the side. I had to snip and pry it open some. Yeah they stick out a little.

[left pulsar]

Nice, I cut out the side "grills" on my RC 690 years ago.

[tepid reef]

I may have accidentally installed my top fans as intake instead of outtake. I got 3 140mm front Intake, 2 120mm top intake and only 1 120mm rear outtake

should I swap the top to outtake

[knotty sparrow]

Ideally yes top would be exhaust

[lucid hawk]

guys i have laptop and i need to make it cooler i have stand and temp in the game is 70 or 71 c so do u have any suggestion ?

[knotty sparrow]

Undervolt using throttlestop

[lucid hawk]

my temp is good or not ? ur mean is that i should overclock ?

[knotty sparrow]

Temps are ok but lower is better. Undervolt means you're giving the cpu and gpu less voltage, which means less heat. Often your performance increases by giving them less voltage ironically.

Most laptops don't let you overclock, due to the limited power available

[lucid hawk]

r u kidding me!!!??? performance will increase ?????wow
such interesting

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah on my 15w CPU performance increased with a 100mv drop

[lucid hawk]

i have another problem !
my adapter it too hot and it have bad smell

[knotty sparrow]

I used to leave my AC adapter sitting on an ice pack wrapped in a paper towel

They do get hot

[lucid hawk]

aha so it is normal i can put 2 small fans on adapter

[knotty sparrow]

That would help

[lucid hawk]

yes sure

[steel forge]

This might be a stupid question, but when I put fans on the top of the case should they pull air out of the case or blow air into it?

[shrewd juniper]

You want them in exhaust so air out

[steel forge]

Ok thanks

[sonic gazelle]

does anyone else need to install a fan in their window to exhaust all the hot air from their systems?

or am i the only one with a 95F living room

[steel forge]

Rtx 3090 problems?

I just realized I have no intake fans in my case is that bad

[covert apex]

Yes

[steel forge]

Which one should be the intake? I got my triple AIO exhausting air through the radiator in the front of my case. And one behind my VRM blowing air out the back.

[covert apex]

Your intake is almost always the front of your case

and exhaust on back / top

[shrewd juniper]

Unless it's a h510

[steel forge]

Oh no D: I guess thats why my cpu idles at 45c

I got a crappy TD500 from cooler master

[covert apex]

Is it the mesh one?

[steel forge]

Ye

[covert apex]

That case is actually quite good

[steel forge]

So am I supposed to put the fans on the front of the case instead of behind the radiator?

[covert apex]

Usually does not matter, the only important thing is that they are intaking

[steel forge]

Dang it, thats means they backwards. I guess it needed cleaning anyways

[covert apex]

Some fans have better airflow pushing air rather than pulling air through the radiator

[steel forge]

I apparently didn't get an AM4 friendly cooler either but it looked cool 😎

I'm confused, the fans have two plugs but if I plug them into the hub do they still need board connections?

[knotty sparrow]

What do you mean by 2 plugs? There's a half dozen things that could be

[steel forge]

One says to rgb hub and the other is a 4 pin fan connection

I bet that means I need a dang splitter

[knotty sparrow]

Not necessarily

[steel forge]

Or a fan controller instead of a rgb hub

[knotty sparrow]

You can just plug it into the board or into a hub

The AIO should have come with a splitter

[steel forge]

I bought a three pack of fans and it came with only a RGB HUB

I should have read it closer

[knotty sparrow]

Splitters and hubs are cheap at least

[steel forge]

Ye and I found out I actually have enough fan headers but they are on the bottom of the mobo for some reason

This might be stupid but I'm going to use breadboard wires to make "extensions" for the fan control wires

[knotty sparrow]

I wouldn't say stupid but don't cross your wires

Especially 12v and ground lol

[steel forge]

True xD

Well one good thing is that the wires are color coded

Now I just gotta find a guy on Craigslist to cable manage this mess

would it be ok to mount a controller to the side of a psu?

[steel forge]

Wow didn't think adding top fans would decrease temp by 6 degrees

[quick locust]

Changing the rad fans on the kraken z63, and I'm pretty sure they are daisy chained. I don't remember if the fans are 3 or 4 pins too. So ima needa check

[magic wave]

A splitter cable will work in lieu of daisy chaining, alternatively I think Arctic makes a version of the P14 that supports scalable daisy chaning with a header that you can plug another fan into

I use splitters because--and I'm not actually sure of this--I believe the fan speed tapers off with more fans plugged into each other

On the fence with that to be sure

[undone geyser]

what do i use to clean thermal paste?

[left pulsar]

Isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol). 91 or 99% is good

[knotty sparrow]

NO not rubbing alcohol.
Yes they're basically the same but rubbing alcohol has added water. Isopropyl is pure.

[idle tiger]

Iso can be any percent, often 91 or 70. Though stuff sold as "rubbing alcohol" can be any concentration of either isopropyl or ethyl alcohol

[sonic gazelle]

tesla m40 problems 😂

[quick locust]

Anyone know why my mobo doesn't recognize my fans

And the fans are set to dc

12v too

[unique lily]

Shnord#1739 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[quick locust]

Also the fans 4 pins connected into some kinda corsair fan hub

Are

The fanhub has power

But now I remember there was a 2nd cable there

Don't know where it goes

So not sure if I connected it

Anyone know of that has to do with it?

If

[knotty sparrow]

Corsair fan hub needs that usb connection iirc

[quick locust]

Yep just found that out

Without that cable my mobo can't use the pwm

Ans the fans are just powered with the sata

Running 12v

Thz

[undone geyser]

anyone know if i only need 1 nzxt fan hub with 6rgb fans? three with aio and three individual

[oak star]

What aio

Because I have an nzxt hub and it has 4 rgb fan slots but ur aio might be able to like make all the fans combine then be on one cable

But just double check doing ur own research, I think you’ll technically be fine but look it up

[shrewd juniper]

Rubbing alcohol is fine, i think mine is like 85% or something

[native mural]

Im have a Cooler Master H500 case and put a 360 aio in the top which means the only way to run a rear exhaust fan is going low profile. Is it worth it to have rear exhaust or just keep positive pressure and run as is?

I have no cooling issues. Under stress test my i7 10700kf runs at 80c which includes my gpu, a 3080fe, running a stress test

[low pumice]

The 360 aio's fans will be your exhaust in that situation

[native mural]

@low pumice thats what i thought but wanted to confirm, thanks!

[low pumice]

You're welcome

[undone geyser]

x73

@oak star

[junior ivy]

Would these make good radiator fans?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JQBH9YC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_VKJJZN678Q54WP77J6XC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

The infinity mirror matches my theme

[shrewd juniper]

Haven't seen them before but I'd just recommend arctic p12's

[junior ivy]

Yeah I know Arctic’s are good but in this case I would put form over function

But only if the function part isn’t bad

[shrewd juniper]

I've never seen them I'd try YouTube/Google some reviews

[keen ermine]

would there be a way to control pwm fans (2x arctic p14 pwm+ 2x arctic p8 pwm) with a usb in the use case of a laptop cooling pad that i plan on making

preferably with speed control

can have a different power supply because i dont think you could get enough voltage from usb

[undone geyser]

is 70% isopropyl okay cleaning thermal paste?

i couldnt find 99%

[left pulsar]

Sure, it's mainly just weaker & doesn't evaporate as quickly, afaik. Pretty sure I've used 70% in the past.

[knotty sparrow]

If you use 70% make sure you only get it on the cpu and none of the surrounding components. Don't let it drip. It'll take longer to evaporate.

[undone geyser]

i couldnt find 99% thats why i only got 70%

qtips or in a towel I will probably use

[junior ivy]

I used 90% and it worked just fine

[shrewd juniper]

As far as i know.... No also if you go through with that i hope you find a controller for that, my best guess would be to use a potentiometer, connecting it to usb seems unnecessary and awkward imo also for power supply batteries are probably the easiest, you'll wanna be handy with a soldering iron or have a breadboard you can permanently use for it

[undone geyser]

yeah i went to my local shop that sells those only 70 % are avaiol

well cant complain too much

[idle tiger]

Thought these were pretty cool worth a temporary pin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930562916871204894/942838407401472031/Screenshot_20210719-160623.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930562916871204894/942838407732797531/Screenshot_20210719-160611.jpg

[knotty sparrow]

P14 being #1 isn't much of a surprise, but good to know on the others

[shrewd juniper]

It's interesting to see the huge drop of the nf a14 on heatsink compared to case

[slow condor]

does that graph include all the close competitors?

[shrewd juniper]

pretty much

[keen ermine]

so basically get p14?

[magic wave]

yeah basically

[topaz blaze]

Hello, I built my PC around 2 years ago and haven't really had the chance to figure out how to adjust my PC fans' speed. Could somebody please help me out with that?

The fans (mainly case fans I believe, but maybe CPU and GPU?) have been making some unbearably loud noise for quite a while, even when simply browsing the Internet or handling non CPU/GPU-heavy tasks

Thanks in advance for any help

[shrewd juniper]

The case and cpu fans can be controlled in the bios , the gpu fans you'll have to install msi afterburner in windows

[topaz blaze]

Got you

I was just looking at the bios rn actually, do you know under which menu the fan related settings would be ?

[shrewd juniper]

Just have a look around, it depends on your motherboard

But it should be something along the lines "easy fan" or just something with fan in it

[topaz blaze]

Alright I think I got it

[shrewd juniper]

No prob

[topaz blaze]

Oh one last thing, I just checked in my bios and can see that my pc temp is currently 47degrees Celsius and fans are running at 1666rpm, I'd like for my pc to run as quietly as possible, and I'm not gaming on it, what would be the ideal temperature that should be maintained and to what fan speed should I readjust in your opinion?

[shrewd juniper]

Honestly i just use % 's instead of rpm and you'll just want to mess around with it, also idle temps kinda depend on your ambient room temp as well, if you're idling around the 50c area thats fine just don't let it get above ~90c under full load

[topaz blaze]

Ok sounds good

Thanks for your help, I'll mess around with ghe settings and see what's good for me

[shrewd juniper]

Np :>

[topaz blaze]

Oh actually I do have one last thing I was curious about if you don't mind me asking

I was only able to modify my fan speed for 4 of my fans 3 "system" fans and the CPU one --> all to "silent" mode

However, I do have 3 other fans in my pc, is there a way I can change their speed too? They don't seem to appear in the mb bios unlike the 4 others I already changed

[shrewd juniper]

Emm what type are the fans that dont show?

[hard brook]

hey is there major difference between 2 cpu fans and 3

[shrewd juniper]

Uh depends, if you're talking about 240mm(2x120mm fans) aio's vs 360mm(3x120mm fans) aios then yes

[hard brook]

how do i know that lol

[shrewd juniper]

But if you're talking about a tower cooler probably diminishing returns

[shrewd juniper]

Aio is a liquid cooler, tower cooler is a regular heatsink and fan(s) directly hanging off the cpu

[hard brook]

all of them are liquid cooler

is it worth to waste 30$ more for extra fan or can go with 2 and call it a day

im planning to buy a aio cooler

[shrewd juniper]

So you're talking about 240mm aios and 360mm aios?

And it depends what cpu are you getting?

[hard brook]

11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700 @ 2.50GHz

should i get 240 or 360 aios

[shrewd juniper]

Unless you already have it I'd go 12th gen instead but eh 240 will do 360 is worth the 30$ imo tho also future proofs your cooler

[hard brook]

i cant really buy a new cpu

[hard brook]

so i go with 360 ?

[low pumice]

Does your case support 360mm top mount rad

[hard brook]

no idea

lemme check

[hard brook]

does it ?

[low pumice]

No, only 240 top

[hard brook]

im not good with these stuff

[hard brook]

what about front

[low pumice]

360

[hard brook]

but theres a problem

in front there's a Glass

do you recomended me to go with front with 360m

[low pumice]

So at this point prob go with a 240mm aio and top mount

[hard brook]

or top with 240m

[low pumice]

Since front is glass

[hard brook]

Thanks

[topaz blaze]

I’m not too sure actually... I got 3 case fans that came with the case and I bought 3 separate ones to help with airflow when I first built my pc

The ones I bought are the Arctic P12 (might be P14 I'm not 100% sure)

And my case (with 3 front fans) is the Cooler Master MasterBox MB511

[shrewd juniper]

Hmm okay, the ones that came in the case are they not moving?

If so it might be just a static speed or a button on the case to control

[idle tiger]

Just realized I don't have any good am4 blocks, but maybe I can drill holes in this TR4 evo.. https://i.imgur.com/aUQQ0ve.jpeg

[magic sparrow]

I once had to use an AM3 mount on AM4, rotated like 15 degrees and only used two screws to hold it in.

[idle tiger]

Haha people would do that for the older ln2 pots without am4 mounting holes.

[topaz blaze]

Nah they are, just can't figure out how to make them slow down

[nova peak]

I am loving the Vetroo V5! Installs right into the Dell Prebuilt with just the brackets baby! Lets go!

[slow condor]

What size zmt do I need

Ek blocks

[idle tiger]

Doesn't matter. All blocks use g1/4 threads. Math the tubing to the fittings.

[bronze cave]

Where do I get 4 pin fan extension cables that aren't sleeved?!! Can't find them anywhere.

[floral rune]

I was recommended the Arctic liquid freezer ii 280 a-rgb for the i5-12600k

I can not figure out how to mount it to the motherboard

Which is the MSI pro z690-a

[marsh badge]

have you put backplate on?

the backplate has to be put on, behind the mobo

[faint oriole]

Any one know of a really thick 360 aio?

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/360mm/12877/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-360mm-radiator

I'm getting one of the 2x180mm ones for my fractal torrent, monsta is very accurate for them

[shrewd juniper]

Thickest aio ik of is the Arctic liquid freezer ii

[faint oriole]

How thick is that? @shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

The rad is 38mm thick

[minor mural]

What is best under load temps for the MSI RTX 3060 Ti VENTUS 2X OCV1? Mine averages 40-60 C

[sacred wren]

There is no "best"

If it's not running hot, it's not running hot

[minor mural]

I mean Maximum safe temps or something like that. Im just asking because I want to make sure it's doing fine and take care of it so it can live longer.

It's fine to have the GPU fans on 100% all time yeah? Or should I set the fan curve?

[sacred wren]

Don't do that

Fans will wear out

Either set a curve or leave it on auto

It won't be damaged unless it goes over 90c

The model is one of the only model 3060 ti we say to avoid, so the cooling is pretty meh on it

But as long as you have decent case cooling, auto is fine

[minor mural]

Brought a pre built and this came with it so cant complain...

[minor mural]

You sure?

[minor mural]

I'll set up the curve but is there a good curve or pointers to make a good curve?

[sacred wren]

ive never had to set a curve so i cant help with that

id try to keep it around or under 80c

[low pumice]

The main thing is to see what fan noise you hear at different speeds, the goal is for it to be nearly inaudible before reaching a certain point like 70c or 80c when it'll ramp up to cool it down

Its better to have a smoother curve because you'll notice change in noise more than a slightly louder but constant noise

[minor mural]

the problem is I'm deaf but it's not a problem...heh

[winter cloak]

Hello I’m new here and need some advice. I’m going to be ordering this motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119197?item=N82E16813119197 and this https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700g-ryzen-7-5000-g-series/p/N82E16819113682?item=N82E16819113682 and I need help on what cooling fan I should get. I am on a budget and mid-tier is my highest I will go. Thank you for any info and your time.

Just remembered that I’ll need thermal paste

[junior ivy]

The Ryzen 7 5700g comes with a cooler so if you’re on a budget I would recommend just using that

[winter cloak]

Oh it does? I didn’t see anything on the page about that so cool and nvm this post cause I’m an idiot lol

[sacred wren]

whats the budget for the pc

and what is the point of the pc

[shrewd juniper]

Do you live in the north pole and or what are you considering as load because that's very cool

[shrewd juniper]

It can actually go over 90c fine it will just stop boosting at 83c

[shrewd juniper]

Well then you can have a more aggressive curve but you still want a curve so your fans don't ware out faster than they should

[shrewd juniper]

Get a cheaper motherboard - if you're in the US, msi b550 pro vdh wifi is a good price now and get a 5600g and a thermalright frost spirit 140

[minor mural]

That's with 100% fans running max.

But as Bacca said it's not good to have fans to run 100%

[keen ermine]

would it be hard to wire up 2 p14s to a switch with a battery or from a wall socket?

[knotty sparrow]

You could use a 9V battery or a bunch of AA in series. It'll need roughly 3-4V to spin slowly, 12V max.
DC only, not AC from the wall. Unless you like fire.

[keen ermine]

Ok, how would I wire them together and to the battery

[knotty sparrow]

It's pretty simple. Combining batteries in series combines their voltage, so all you need to do is connect the batteries together (positive to negative) with something conductive like a wire. Then you connect the negative and positive to the DC pins on the fan.

AA batteries are 1.5V so 8 in a series gets you 12V

There's actual battery pack shells that will hold the batteries for you too

[rose isle]

Generic 12v Adapter is also a solution

[keen ermine]

Could I run 2 9V batteries in series for the same effect?

[knotty sparrow]

That would get you 18V and burn out the motors

14V is right around the point where they start to smoke

[keen ermine]

So 2 AAs and a 9v would work?

Or for them in series do they need to be the same voltage

[rose isle]

why are you making your life difficult? 12v wall adapter, done

[keen ermine]

How much money is that

[rose isle]

like, 12 bucks?

some for half that

[keen ermine]

I kind of don't want to have another thing plugged into my wall and batteries are cooler

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Holder-Snap-Connector-Corpco/dp/B01N91OF9H

[rose isle]

but youre talking about combining 9v and AA batteries.

[knotty sparrow]

Combining different batteries is a bad idea, mixing metals can cause issues and sometimes fire

[keen ermine]

Ah ok

Don't want fire because that will make my laptop hot

[rose isle]

also, how much amps do fans pull? how long will batteries last?

[knotty sparrow]

P14 are really low wattage actually

[rose isle]

okidoki then

[knotty sparrow]

It's too late for math...
Actual numbers are 0.12A, 1.4W at 12V

[hard brook]

Is there a limit to how many fans i can run into if yes then how do i know

when i handed my pc to local store installing new cpu colling everything works perfect but one of my front fans stopped working

installed 2 new fans for cpu.

1 back
2 top
2 front

[knotty sparrow]

There's not a limit you can hit. You can connect up to 1 amp worth of fans to a single header. If you have hubs, you can have an unlimited number of fans as long as the power supply can power them.

[hard brook]

hmm

[knotty sparrow]

Probably just a loose wire

[hard brook]

: c

is it easy to connect

[knotty sparrow]

Very

[hard brook]

can u send me a guide

[knotty sparrow]

I don't think there is one

It's just that simple

[hard brook]

wah

[knotty sparrow]

Find the wire for the fan that's not working and give it a light pull, so you can see where it goes.

[hard brook]

oki ill check that later

[knotty sparrow]

Once you find that you just push it into place

[hard brook]

my cpu heat are around 60c while playing heavy games but i can feel the heat in top celling is that normal ?

[knotty sparrow]

Totally fine

[rose isle]

how to plug a fan

[hard brook]

[rose isle]

sometimes theres 4 pins

same thing

[hard brook]

okay folks

Thanks a bunch !

[knotty sparrow]

60C is within the ideal range of under 70C.

[knotty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mary-poppins-disney-julieandrews-perfect-practically-gif-7391688

[rose isle]

Declassified Systems do the best coolant runs.

[nova peak]

Hey all. Is there an AIO liquid cooler size that would work instead of (2) 80mm fans side by side? On the back of my Dell Inspiron 3670 I have (2) 80mm fans as exhaust. I have a Vetroo V5 as my cpu cooler currently. I’m just seeing if something would fit in that side by side 80mm fan location. Maybe (1) 80mm AIO? Would it be enough? Thanks!!!

[knotty sparrow]

I don't think there's any AIOs that are 160mm but there's a couple radiators for custom loops. I wouldn't use it for anything more than an i3 though.
80x160=12,800
120x120=14,400
Dual 80mm is less area than a 120mm radiator, and those are horrible.

[nova peak]

I appreciate it! I think the Vetroo V5 will do great for now. It has the i5-8400 idling at 29-30c

[nova peak]

This is what I found though. Thoughts? They have pumps too. https://modmymods.com/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-dual-80mm-radiator-14212.html

[knotty sparrow]

If you have room and mounts for a custom loop, including the reservoir, you can. Just keep in mind what I said, that's less surface area than a 120mm AIO. It'll probably be ok with a 8400 but don't expect more than an air cooler.

[nova peak]

Understood!

[dry arch]

What AIO's do you guys suggest? I currently have a Z73 but the pump died after just 8 mnths

360mm aio btw

[low pumice]

Freezer ii, galahad, ek-aio are neat picks for performance

[dry arch]

@low pumice Would you say this one then?

i'll prolly get either this or the galahad

[low pumice]

I wouldn't grab the elite, elite is expensive for no reason over the org ek-aio in regards to performance

[shrewd juniper]

If you're on/going to 12th gen intel soon avoid the galahad, they have been awful with shipping out the lga 1700 bracket

[dry arch]

@shrewd juniper I have the 5900x

[knotty sparrow]

In that case you probably should go with liquid freezer II

The offset cold plate is very nice for ryzen

[shrewd juniper]

Liquid freezer also have rgb variants

[river canyon]

is the liquid freezer II good for the i7 12700k

[sacred wren]

280mm or 360mm

[river canyon]

280mm

[sacred wren]

youre in the us?

if so, 360mm is like 3$ more

[river canyon]

true its not much more

[topaz blaze]

assuming you're on amazon, sometimes the listings have "used" or "like new" options for a decent bit cheaper, can get pretty good deals that way

ive gotten my 360CLC and rm850x for really good prices that way

[analog minnow]

does anyone know of a low profile cooler that would outperform the stock one for 10th gen intel?

[low pumice]

Nh l12s perhaps

[analog minnow]

I'll look into that thank you

[errant hawk]

How can I tell if my aio isn't working right? My temps are stupid high at idle and I am not sure if its issue with pump or with installation. On the system viewer it says my pump is working running at 2800 rpm. Planning on changing thermal paste to see if that fixes it but it has been less than a year. The aio is a ghallihad 360 cpu is 10900k if you need that.

[left pulsar]

Whats the temps? Quick/ez check is a remount w/ fresh paste. Also feel the tubing in various spots. Should be able to tell by temp/vibration if pump is working decent.

[errant hawk]

Hit 100c before I cut it off. Which is way passed what it used to run at used to be like 70 or 80 under load.

[left pulsar]

Used to? Mounting doesn't just suddenly get bad, but of course bad mount would be 1 thing to give high temps. I'd remount 1st then you'd find out if pump or rad is the issue. Aio punps aren't 100% failproof or immortal

[errant hawk]

Thinking it is either the paste is bad or pump going out.

Or maybe something to do with fan headers, switched its fan header and its working now. Its the pump as I can feel the heat in the tubes and couldn't previously.

[left pulsar]

Yeah idk if fan headers just go bad. Perhaps a bios setting for that previous one changed or something. Good to hear though

[shrewd juniper]

If it's an i3 or 10/11400 in just gaming and don't mind noise just use the stock one btw

[unreal saffron]

Question for yall - my cpu temps are high as heck, I have an h150i LCD 360mm from corsair... I already reapplied thermal paste twice. Might try it again. Currently has thermal grizzly on there... but when I run apex legends I'm hitting low 80s, and im capping my fps to 80. When i dont cap my fps, i get temps that peak in the 90s sometimes.

I just feel like it shouldnt be THAT bad... I dont have a great airflow case, the ROG Helios, but still... i just dont think it should be this bad. Temps for GPU and everything else seem to be fine. only cpu.

I always had problems with my cpu's running hot but never this bad. I am running a 5950x. The case is in the corner of my room. I can see how my thermals would be bad, i just dont think they should be THIS bad.

Im thinking maybe I am tightening the cooler too much or something? But I saw installation guides and they say to tighten till the screws stop and thats what I did

[knotty sparrow]

Bad mount is possible, but the combination of the H150i being meh, bad airflow, and the 5950X being one of the hardest consumer CPUs to cool ever are probably big factors there too

[unreal saffron]

yeah definitely

thank yo

you

im gonna try re mounting and tighten the screws a bit less and see if that help

[shrewd juniper]

Make sure you tighten the screws in a X pattern and don't tighten all the way first try, do some of the way then go around and tighten them

But yeah bad case

Make sure your aio pump is always at 100%

[unreal saffron]

Got it

Thanks pato ❤️✨

[timid carbon]

make sure you have taken off the plastic peel off the cold plate of the aio

[unreal saffron]

Tbh i dont remember doing that

__>

But i dont think there is one?

Never seen a peel-like pie e

Piece*

[shrewd juniper]

Not always a peel, sometimes there's hard plastic instead

[uneven solstice]

Should I go for the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 or 360 for the 12700k?

[marsh badge]

Go for the 360

[uneven solstice]

Cool. Thank you.

[shrewd juniper]

Literally no reason to not go the largest one you can fit especially when they're all within a few dollars of each other

[uneven solstice]

Makes sense. Well then, will the 420 fit in a 4000D Airflow case?

[marsh badge]

nope

it only fits 360 max

[uneven solstice]

Alright, ill stick with the 360 then. Thank you guys.

[marsh badge]

but 360 should do good with 12700k still

[uneven solstice]

Even with OC?

[marsh badge]

mhm

to an extent that is

[uneven solstice]

I'm not looking to push it past 4.9

I think that'd be a good oc

I apologize for the large amount of questions, but what is the "washer method"? I've seen it mentioned a few times when talking about cooling.

[shrewd juniper]

No need to worry about it, only applies if lapping the cpu /waterblock

But yeah 360 liquid freezer is good for the 12700k

[uneven solstice]

Gotcha ok. I was just reading that some people need to do the washer method with that cooler and the 12700k

Otherwise they get crappy cooling.

[shrewd juniper]

Nah only if you lapped your cpu/cooler

[uneven solstice]

Not sure what lapped is.. like sandpaper it?

[marsh badge]

kinda like that, yes

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but don't do bother with it

[uneven solstice]

Oh I won't be doing anything like that. Sounds like a lot of room for error considering I have no idea why I would be doing that.

[knotty sparrow]

There's also certain coolers that have crappy mounting brackets, but not arctic

[bright ether]

arctic pog, one of the best, looks nice, and good prices

[mellow raven]

I bought this pre-built a month and a half ago and I am really enjoying it. But the only problem is the stock fan that came with it. As when running games like pubg and gta the cpu gets to 100c and gpu gets to 80c so anyone recommend a fan or something? (Im a noob with computers so go easy on me kekw) https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-11600kf-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-500gb-ssd-black/6479736.p?skuId=6479736

[viral fjord]

@mellow raven will be easier to help you if you can measure the height clearance

[dusky idol]

No max 360

[dreamy locust]

The arctic freezer II 240mm was at 40€ but it got out of stock in like 4 minutes

[shrewd juniper]

Must have been an error

[dusky bolt]

My Ryzen3600 has the stock cooler, but when I open up normal games it boost up to like 90c. So I am thinking of buying a Corsair H100i

[shrewd juniper]

Are you in the us? H100i is a meh cooler in the first place but aio is not necessary

Also what case

[knotty sparrow]

If the case actually looks like that then you'll need to do more than just change the cpu cooler. Solid front glass like that is one of the worst designs ever for cooling. The 2060 shouldn't be getting anywhere near 80C, the worst model I saw hit 70 and that was a single fan with a crappy heatsink.

[shrewd juniper]

Tbf it has some sort of side intake

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah but curving air is bad, creates a lot of resistance

[dusky bolt]

I have Fractal Meshify C and I'm in the US

[knotty sparrow]

That does a 280mm on top or a 360mm on front

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/w3c48d

All you need tbh

[shrewd juniper]

Ofc could be pure oven tho

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah, at least it's not h510 elite

[dusky bolt]

I wanna go for a more cleaner look too, so would you recommend the https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PC-R1-Direct-Contact/dp/B07H22TC1N/ref=psdc_11036281_t3_B00JQ2YDCY

[shrewd juniper]

Nooo

If you want nicer looks

Vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224 xt

[dusky bolt]

Alright thanks

[shrewd juniper]

At the 50$ price, frost spirit 140

[knotty sparrow]

212 black is decent but overpriced

Yeah you go up a tier in cooling for what they ask

[dusky bolt]

Think my ram is to tall

[knotty sparrow]

What ram?

[dusky bolt]

Gskill ripgaws 5

[shrewd juniper]

Should be fine

[dusky bolt]

I can always return it

[knotty sparrow]

Ripjaws aren't that tall

[dusky bolt]

The Frost Spirit Should cool better sense it has way more surface area.

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[dusky bolt]

Alright think ima do taht

that

[shrewd juniper]

Has rgb options too

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sKhFf7/thermalright-frost-spirit-140-rgb-778-cfm-cpu-cooler-frost-spirit-140-rgb

[knotty sparrow]

Ripjaws V are 42mm, fan height in default position on frost spirit allows about 43mm. You can shift the fan up a bit if needed.

[dusky bolt]

Alright ill get the Frost Spirit

[civic pecan]

Hey guys, I'm building my first pc and I had a question about my aio

I purchased one of corsair's aio's along with a tube of their thermal compound, but I wasnt aware that it had preapplied paste on the coldplate

Is it worth using that, or should I scrub it off and use my own?

[mystic tiger]

just use whats already applied on the aio since its already there

more than likely the paste on the aio is the same that you bought so no point in cleaning it just to use the same paste

[civic pecan]

Alright, sounds good. Thanks

[uneven solstice]

Quick question on rgb fans. MSI pro z690 a wifi ddr4. How would I go about being able to choosing the color for each individual fan? Do I need a hub of some sort?

[knotty sparrow]

The motherboard has rgb headers you'll plug into for the lighting, and you can use the msi center software to control it.

[topaz blaze]

conversation already passed, but I'd look out for the evga clc's as well as the arctic freezers, mainly because the clc's seem to go on sale for really good prices somewhat often

I got my 240CLC for 60 new I think, and my 360CLC for 74 open box from amazon warehouse

lol yea it's super cheap right now, though it doesnt come with a LGA 1700 adapter like the freezer https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Liquid-Cooler-Warranty-400-Hy-CL36-V1/dp/B07VKHP9C5
"used - good" option for 71 as well

I'd post it in #tech-deals but nobody has interest in what I post so i wont bother

arctic freezer ii 360 is 115 new atm

[azure plume]

Noctua NH-P1 vs NH-D15

What gets the CPU colder?

[heady crown]

I have a custom loop liquid cool question as well as a case fan question

Is there glow in the dark fluid and are there any 120mm blacklight fans?

[shrewd juniper]

You should tech deals the 360mm one, for 85 that's good

[shrewd juniper]

Not even a question, p1 doesn't even have a fan, nhd15 ez pz but gets smacked around by an arctic liquid freezer 360/420

[topaz blaze]

You can post it, I'm on fallout 4 rn

[shrewd juniper]

Alright 👍

[shrewd juniper]

Probably but you'd need to drain it every few months or so, and idk what you mean by backlight, like just the ring is rgb?

[heady crown]

Like the UV lights

Just something I've been wondering but can't seem to find anything

[shrewd juniper]

Definitely no UV fans

[heady crown]

👍

[shrewd juniper]

Iirc ek has some glow in the dark ish liquid

[heady crown]

👍

Is it the green glow in the dark or are there other colors?

[shrewd juniper]

Can't remember

[uneven solstice]

I would absolutely love green glow in the dark liquid.

Before I even started looking about how to do custom loops, I knew I wanted green liquid.

[heady crown]

I want red

Cause I want to do a red/black Asus color scheme

[tulip matrix]

Yeah ek has UV reactive coolant

Now if I did a loop I would use black tubing with clear coolant

So I don't have to worry about staining of the tubes

[azure plume]

But what if you put a fan?

Since I'm making a new custom case and I will have enough space for even a HPTX.

[coarse glacier]

regarding chassis fans, how do i plug the case fans into the motherboard without frying?

or with it being able to turn on

do i use sys fan 1, 2, or 6

[low pumice]

any sys fan header should work for fans

[coarse glacier]

the issue here is that i'm likely using the wrong pin connector

the fans have a three-pin but my psu has a four-pin

[left pulsar]

The possible issue is if the 3pin might be rgb/argb crap. As for normal 3pin fan onto a 4pin mobo header: (yes any header labeled like sys_fan or cha_fan should be peachy)

[coarse glacier]

yeah that was it

the case fans work now

and the front one even has a red led

now it's not too hot

i'd rather have a loud pc than a hot one

[left pulsar]

3pin fan connector is like 20 yr old tech. Great thing is it's simple and instead of pwm it's just about fan voltage. If you ever wanted to lower the rpm/noise of fans you own, could try something such as :(for fans under 2.5w each and perhaps 1500-2500rpm)

[shrewd juniper]

Pretty sure d15 still wins

[azure plume]

Okie dokie. Thank you. Was looking for the best air cooler.

[low pumice]

best might be grand macho

or cnps20x over d15 by a tiny margin

[azure plume]

In terms of cooling?

[low pumice]

ye

[azure plume]

And it's only $80?!

[low pumice]

grand macho is a hunky boi

Can beat d15 with just sheer mass of fins

well, its close to d15

sometimes beats by a bit sometimes loses by a bit

for cnps20x

grand macho older so they only get smol chart

[azure plume]

Frick.

But yeah, maybe that's the best bet. I don't want to go water-cooling or custom loop just yet.

[low pumice]

cnps20x also good

[azure plume]

Maybe for my 3rd PC I'll do custom water-cooling.

[azure plume]

But it looks ugly.

[low pumice]

perhaps

[jaunty snow]

If I am planning on doing two AIOs, one on GPU, and other on CPU, would it be a good idea to have both of them as exhausts, and have my rear case can act as an intake

[knotty sparrow]

Just do the gpu as front intake and cpu as top exhaust. The gpu gets hotter so it benefits from fresh air, while during gaming the cpu shouldn't be so heavily loaded and won't mind slightly warmer air.

[jaunty snow]

Alright thanks

[wide kayak]

Theoretically, if I had 6 fans, excluding CPU fan, what is the best? Like 3 intake and 3 output, or 4 intake and 2 output

[tulip matrix]

That can depend on the case but most generally people prefer positive pressure and other prefer static but I would say 4 intake and 2 output would help depending on the location of the fans

[knotty sparrow]

Most cases have the 3 front fans that work best as intake, then 2 top and 1 rear for exhaust. You don't want the rear as intake, it'll suck in the hot air from the gpu and psu.

[novel solstice]

Dell XPS 8100

Dell XPS 8100

[covert apex]

yeah

[lusty sapphire]

any idea why thee fan isn't spinning?

[unique lily]

bearic#6990 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lusty sapphire]

these are near the top of the case, my cooling has been horrible

im getting 80c in rdr2 on high-medium with a 3070

the 80c leads to a crash similar to this (an old crash i had), but without the bsod, it's just those red lines

just those lines, no bsod, i solved that

[topaz blaze]

fan probably unplugged ,i have the same AIO and it happens to me sometimes lol

[lusty sapphire]

Alright I’ll take a look at it

[river canyon]

what are good fans for my o11d air min?

[left pulsar]

Arctic P12/P14

[river canyon]

swag

what about rgb fans?

[left pulsar]

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12/p14 rgb

[river canyon]

swaggy

[magic sparrow]

Adapters are only good for a couple OEM mobos where you cant control fan curve or make PWM header run in DC mode. Almost all consumer mobos can run a PWM header in DC mode meaning you can control the fan via software perfectly fine.

[topaz blaze]

Dang I forgot I had this

Pretty good cooler

I think I got it for like 27 bucks in 2017

Back when I didn't know the difference between a chipset and a socket...

[marsh badge]

that's not a bad choice of a cooler tbh

for back then that is

[dusky bolt]

Thanks whoever recommended me the frost spirit my temps have improved by 100F

[left pulsar]

Good to hear. Idk, but on various servers I keep suggesting that or the PA 120 to people because at $40ish-50ish they're pretty good value. I also bought the same FS140.

[dense beacon]

Hey guys. So what would be the best way to control fans and cooling on Ubuntu linux?

[shrewd juniper]

your bios- no matter the OS

[low pumice]

I think the fan control software bleach used also worked with Linux

[knotty sparrow]

Do you mean this? https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

[shrewd juniper]

Maybe he is thinking of openrgb ?

[low pumice]

Yea think that's it

[timid carbon]

That does rgb only nothing else

[shrewd juniper]

Ik but that's the only one i could think of which was why i was confused

[dense beacon]

ok thx

[floral rune]

Ok heres my current build. (https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACTPlays/saved/#view=7X6LsY) I'm looking to cool it better, so recommendations welcome.

[sacred wren]

you already have all of this?

[floral rune]

yes

[sacred wren]

mmm

[floral rune]

ive had it built for a year

just looking for a cooling upgrade]

and maybe ram because this ram sucks

at least in my case

[sacred wren]

idve gotten very different parts tbh, but whats done is done. liquid freezer ii 360 would be a good choice

also yeah that ram is WAY too fast

for an amd cpu

id underclock it to 3600c16

or lower timings

[floral rune]

it wont boot unless i have it at like 3200 🙂

got screwed

[sacred wren]

now thats odd

[knotty sparrow]

Are you just changing the frequency or are you also changing voltage and timings?

[floral rune]

im using the tmp and changing frequency

[sacred wren]

tmp?

[floral rune]

im not a ram guy

uh

whatever the preset is called

[knotty sparrow]

XMP?

[floral rune]

yes

that one

my bad

see, not a ram guy

[sacred wren]

you should be able to get it to 3600c16 fairly easy looking at reviews

someone got 3800c15

most likely the way youre changing the frequency

[floral rune]

yeah

i literally have no idea what im doing

[knotty sparrow]

Ok, here's what you do.
Enable xmp
Apply and reboot
Set frequency to 3600, dram voltage to 1.4v
Go in to change timings, in order, to 16-18-18-18-38
Then apply and reboot again

[floral rune]

if i enable xmp it wont boot, is that okay?

[sacred wren]

thats without changing the voltage

or frequency

default xmp sets it to 4400

[floral rune]

yeah

[sacred wren]

which doesnt run on even the best of bins of amd cpus (excluding apus)

[knotty sparrow]

Ok, skip the first reboot then

But still enable xmp

[floral rune]

Ok

I'll try

[knotty sparrow]

It'll run with a few adjustments, just not 1:1

[floral rune]

Should I do profile 1 or 2

[knotty sparrow]

Shouldn't matter, do 1

[floral rune]

Rip

It's turning off when trying to boot

[knotty sparrow]

It'll do that a few times, it's training

[floral rune]

It posted in safe mode

Then f1 to setup

[knotty sparrow]

Ok, set the first timing (tcas) to 18 and see if that goes

[floral rune]

I do not see tcas

I guess dram cas is what you mean

[knotty sparrow]

Asus is a lil different

Yeah dram cas

[floral rune]

So 18 18 18 18 38?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes

[floral rune]

Posted safe mode again

[knotty sparrow]

Oh wait you have 4 sticks

[floral rune]

Yes

[knotty sparrow]

That's a lot harder to run than 2

[floral rune]

Dang

[knotty sparrow]

It's still doable, you just need to bump a few more voltages

Do cpu SoC 1.1v
VDDP 1.0v
VDDG 0.95v

[knotty sparrow]

Oh asus, why must you change names

[floral rune]

Yeah

Asus wild

[knotty sparrow]

VDDCR SOC 1.1V
Both VDDG ones should be set to manual, 0.95v
CLDO VDDP 1.0V

[floral rune]

Ok so changing soc to manual adds this override tab

Do I set the override to 1.1?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes

The options would be override or offset. Override is a static manual input. Offset takes the number the motherboard chooses and modifies it.

[floral rune]

This look right?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes

[floral rune]

Timings should still be 18 18 18 18 38?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes, for now. We'll try tighter timings if this works.

[floral rune]

Ok saving now

So far doing the turn on turn off thing again

Dang

Safe mode

[knotty sparrow]

Ok
18-20-20-20-40

I'm guessing part of the issue is the 2 different sets of 2 sticks have different dies. Mixing dies is really hard on the memory controller. Sometimes impossible.

[floral rune]

Yeah, maybe, got safe mode again

I used to run it at 3600 xmp, then one day it wouldn't post and turning it to 3400 worked

3400 still works

Having to turn the ram down 1000 freq is just so sad

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah.
Is there a specific need for 32gb for you? 16gb is enough for most people.

[floral rune]

Probably not, I do run a decent amount of things though

Mostly gaming

Some productivity

Lots of tabs

[knotty sparrow]

I've never used more than 12gb personally, that's with a high end game, a bunch of browser tabs, discord voice, and all my background stuff.

[floral rune]

Yeah I'm currently using 11.2 with all my tabs and no game

Generally try not to have my tabs open while gaming though

Realistically

Using 9.1 after closing some

[knotty sparrow]

Well you can try running one set of sticks (make sure they're ones that came together)

If that works you can look at getting a set of 2x16gb

[floral rune]

Using 13.2 playing cyberpunk Max settings

Honestly I might just get a set of 2x16 gb

Got any recommendations

[knotty sparrow]

Looking now. It'll take a bit of time, most of my go to ones are sold out.

[floral rune]

oh wild

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907

[floral rune]

and 3600 is recommended over 3800 on a 5800x?

[knotty sparrow]

3800 is a lot harder to run, because the infinity fabric has a chance of throwing errors past 3600. Most 5800Xs can do 3800 but it takes a lot of tuning.

[floral rune]

alright

those timings are similar to the ones i have now

ive been told that the timings on mine arent great

idk how true that is

[knotty sparrow]

It's not 100% ideal but for the price, it's good

If you want better timings you need to shell out a lot more money or tune it yourself.

[floral rune]

how much more are we talking about

because i definitely cant tune it as you can tell

[left pulsar]

3week shipping though?

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374090

[floral rune]

wow

that is crazy

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah, that's the b-die tax

Ooh there's this one, also b-die https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236766

[floral rune]

memory wildin

[sweet tapir]

is the lian li UNI FAN AL and SL good fans?

for the Lian Li O11 Dynamic Case

so 9 fans

[marsh badge]

expensive but decent

[sweet tapir]

do you know how good it is compared to other fans

like is there a chart or something?

[marsh badge]

well it's really only 1-2c apart from good ones

[sweet tapir]

which one the AL or the SL?

[marsh badge]

both

[sweet tapir]

so thats pretty good then

[sweet tapir]

wait so your saying its like 1-2c apart from noctua fans?

[marsh badge]

yes, and arctic

but noctua is the most silent

[gloomy hearth]

@sweet tapir It all comes down to preference. I run 9 of the SL120s. I set 6 intakes at 840RPM and 3 for the AIO as PWM. Can barely hear them.

[river canyon]

was deciding between the arctic liquid freeze II and the ek aio, i like the aesthetic of the ek

is there a performance gap there?

in terms of cooling

[low pumice]

Very small, ek-aio is a good choice still if you like the looks

Assuming normal ek aio not basic

[river canyon]

thank you

[sullen plaza]

hey yall i have a Zotac geforce GTX 1080 8gb 256 BIT Gddr5x here and I'm looking for a compatible cooler for it. i looked on new egg and couldn't find one. even a stock cooler would work. i just have the card with no heat sink or fans
[5:40 PM]
any sugestions?

[shrewd juniper]

If there's no heatsink at all your only option would be to custom loop + waterblock it or get one of those aio's for gpu's lemme see if i can find one for you

https://nzxt.com/product/kraken-g12

Think you can add a normal aio/maybe kraken only onto that

[marsh badge]

afaik only kraken works on it

[knotty sparrow]

I found a heatsink and fans that should work for them on aliexpress

$80

[shrewd juniper]

Oh nice

[mystic bay]

Could anyone help me figure out whats wrong with my cooling aio

[shrewd juniper]

answered^

[tulip matrix]

What waterblock company would be a better cost to cooling performance Corsair or EKWB as their blocks are similar or pretty close to cost

This is for the zotac trinity oc 3090

[knotty sparrow]

EKWB, Corsair is

[tulip matrix]

Thanks was just wanting a second opinion

[magic sparrow]

Neither, Bykski or Barrow

Maybe Bitspower, but dont think they got much Ampere GPU blocks

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah EKWB is overpriced but at least it's decent enough. I'd probably get bykski personally.

[tulip matrix]

Bykski is a little confusing as there isn't a trinity based block anywhere but some have said that the reference blocks work

[topaz blaze]

[idle tiger]

Depends, corsair rads are great because they just use hardwarelabs as the OEM

I don't think the blocks are terrible either, but idk the oem, probably varies with model

[empty thorn]

I'm having trouble finding a replacement fan with the correct pin configuration. It has 2 pins but room for a third. I'm not sure if there is a way to post pics on here. I'm 38 and have never used discord before. 😂

[low pumice]

What size is the fan and where does the fan go?

[empty thorn]

Hello there.. It's a 120mm for the back of the case.

Would it be ok to post a link to a pic here?

[low pumice]

You can DM a pic, no perms for sending pics or images until lvl 3

[empty thorn]

👍

[keen ermine]

Would anyone know what size the fans are in an Acer nitro 5?

[shrewd juniper]

Probably 80mm ish? But a google would give you a better answer

[keen ermine]

I couldn't find any results on google

Maybe I was searching wrong

[magic sparrow]

Lots of different squirrel cage housing designs for a given fan size tho. It'd probs be best to just buy the fan housing all as one no? Those are still typically pretty cheap. (Assuming you're trying to purchase a replacement)

[keen ermine]

I'm designing a cooling pad for my laptop

[magic sparrow]

Your biggest improvement will be be having an mostly mesh cooling pad. It effectively makes it like the laptop is few cm off the ground. I find fans dont add nearly as much improvement

But I'd probably get 80mm - 92mm fans for the cooling pad if you really want to get them fans.

[keen ermine]

I was going to get larger ones so they created less noise

Was thinking of 2 Arctic p14s

[topaz blaze]

phase-change laptop cooling pad

[knotty sparrow]

Hook AC duct directly to intake

[keen ermine]

I was going to try and create something close to a seal with foam that it rests on so the fan blows only into the laptop's fans

[rose isle]

wouldnt noctual slim fans make a more... practical solution?

[keen ermine]

money

[rose isle]

ah, good point

[uneven solstice]

@rose isle should I still go for the Arctic freezer ii with the 12600k?

Sorry for the ping. I just feel like you might know.

[magic sparrow]

Noctua 15mm fans are kinda trash tbf. Way, way weaker then good 25mm - 30mm fans.

Given ur trying to force air into a squirlly fan, you're probably going to want as much pressure as possible for best results. Typically this kind of stuff doesn't help much even with high pressure fans so I wouldn't expect weak pressure fans to do anything more then cool the bottom of the laptop chassis.

[rose isle]

AFII uber alles, my friend.

[uneven solstice]

Oops, I meant to put in that I was thinking about the 360.

Or if the 240 would be a ok for oc

[rose isle]

you only really need the 360 for the 12900, so the 240 is good for the 12600

[karmic root]

anyone know if aio screws are different

i have a 360 aio and wanna do a push/pull with fans on both sides of my radiator because i saw a 6C difference from when i put them against the aio (25C to 19C) on and i9

[knotty sparrow]

Yes they're different from case fan screws

[karmic root]

i just have no clue what ones to buy

[knotty sparrow]

Any water cooling site should have the right ones, in whatever length you need

[karmic root]

its just an asus aio

[knotty sparrow]

That depends on how thick the fans and your case are mostly

[karmic root]

they are just regular noctua ones that come with the rad i just used different fans

the case its super thin

[knotty sparrow]

Do you know how many mm, or at least the exact model?

[knotty sparrow]

What models?
The case may be thin but it's thick enough to matter

You want M3 screws but the exact length will vary

[karmic root]

its all good i contacted asus support and they are going to send me them

[last umbra]

do i5 12th gen need a liquid cool?

[fluid field]

it depends

[last umbra]

mostly aiming for gaming with 3060ti card

[fluid field]

youll be fine with a good air cooler and case fans

id go for noctua

[last umbra]

🙂 thanks for info

[marsh badge]

No need for noctua lol

There's something like frost spirit 140 and peerless assassin 120 for less than nh-12u that performs worse

If it's gonna be 12600K, I'd suggest at least 240mm aio, like liquid freezer ii

[fluid field]

i question why 120mm still exists

[marsh badge]

I guess it's for itx builds

If you're talking about aio

[shrewd juniper]

Nope, for 12600k a good air cooler, for the others a 30$ cooler is all thats needed

[shrewd juniper]

120mms exist so ppl can say its water cooled basicslly even tho just as good as like 30$ cooler

[topaz blaze]

Hey is there any cheap aio coolers for some old sockets

[marsh badge]

How old?

Like what socket, exactly

[knotty sparrow]

Most intel sockets have used the same bracket for a long time, and many coolers include as far back as AM2 mounts for AMD.
How old are we talking?

[topaz blaze]

Socket 775

[idle tiger]

Why put an aio on 775?

Rather, why buy an aio for 775?

[topaz blaze]

Why not I think it would be funny

[idle tiger]

What chip/board?

[tulip matrix]

Just put a LF2 on it and do a makeshift mount to ensure u ain't gonna thermal throttle lol

[topaz blaze]

It's a intel core 2 Duo e8400

And the board is Intel DG45ID Micro ATX LGA775

[tulip matrix]

Iirc a 120mm and a 240 mm arctic liquid freezer II has compatibility with LGA 775 if you just want that comically overkill aio for an Intel Core 2 Duo e8400

[sacred wren]

20c full load temps

[tulip matrix]

2°C idle

[topaz blaze]

Ye

[knotty sparrow]

Sure, if your ambient temp is the freezing point of water

[tulip matrix]

Just put the aio at 100%

[knotty sparrow]

That's not how that works

The water will never be colder than the ambient temperature

[tulip matrix]

Then let's build it in the arctic regions

[knotty sparrow]

There you go. Leave it outside in the snow.

[tulip matrix]

cost effective

[left pulsar]

My old rig is a E8400. With a normal 120mm air cooler it peaks around 45c. An aio would be if you're OCing to 5ghz.

[tulip matrix]

let's oc the e8400 then

[topaz blaze]

yes

[viral fjord]

now replicate it in your HP case

[topaz blaze]

Bruh

watch me

[viral fjord]

now replicate what's going in my current case

[topaz blaze]

cant do that

need a 3090 first

[viral fjord]

take mine

[topaz blaze]

gladly

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[weary raft]

any suggestions for a good silent aio for cooling a r7 5700x or g?
it does not need any rgb and doesnt need to look good, just purely silent and functional

[shrewd juniper]

No need for aio for either, get frost spirit 140

Like 40$

If you want silence, arctic liquid freezer, biggest your case fits

[weary raft]

alright

[sacred wren]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-graphics-cards-modded-with-copper-shims-up-to-46c-drop-in-gddr6x-memory-temperatures/

[shrewd juniper]

@knotty sparrow tbf in relation to the emotes, amd's formula for tdp doesn't include power

[knotty sparrow]

I'm aware, but for all of their 65W processors even just 240mm liquid cooling is overkill. Even with my cheapo ml240l I can ram 1.4v into my 2700 and never get above 65C.

[low pumice]

do keep in mind newer chips hotter

[low pumice]

my old 2700 w 1.4v under smallffts would barely be 80c under d15, 3800x at 1.4v under the same d15, immediately past 100c, and 5800x is even hotter so...

[shrewd juniper]

even the 5600x is hotter than the predecessor r5's

[low pumice]

yes 1.4v not safe for zen 2, but anyways

[knotty sparrow]

True, but I think we can reasonably expect 5700X to not have much more heat load than 5600X

[low pumice]

higher density still though, afaik 8 cores in single ccx again

[knotty sparrow]

And 1.4v is safe just not for long term

[low pumice]

Technically 2v might be safe for a run or two, but I usually look more at voltage for dailying

[knotty sparrow]

The issue with density on the 5800X was them trying to cram the same amount of power into it as the 5900X

More W/core

[low pumice]

kind of true, grabbing data from anandtech

When you're hitting fewer cores it just tries to boost them higher

so 5900x is drawing relatively similar per-core when 5900x limited to 8 cores

[magic sparrow]

5800x has more cores per CCD tho

103w split across two CCDs on 5900x while you have 116w on one CCD. Part of package could be split across the CCDs as well, idk how much of package is on IO and CCD dies.

103w split across two CCDs on 5900x
That is unless they made it so it only targeted one CCD, which I doubt is typical behavior when handling an 8C load

[low pumice]

afaik AMD still only does 8 core ccd's, so for 5900x, my theory is that they disable 4 cores on one ccd, and one ccd is still the full 8 cores

But at full load, all core, 5900x pulling around same power as 5800x means less power per core, and therefore less power in general to that single ccd with 8 cores

[magic sparrow]

Idk about that, just take two 5600 CCDs and you have a 5900.
Either way, just cuz they have a 8+4 CCD layout doesnt mean they cant do a 4+4 core load on the CCDs

[low pumice]

oh yea def

Just my theory for 5900x in general

hitting 5900x with 8 core load is prob hitting 4+4

but theoretically you might be able to hit it with 8 core load on single ccd

[magic sparrow]

It sounds unlikely that they'd do what I said about targeting one CCD due to them needing to have an 8+4 layout and having software force it on one CCD, but I guess it is possible. Tho that'd almost never happen in real world unless the software was like "I NeeD mAh cAcHe OPtimIZaTiON" and force single CCD lol.

[low pumice]

someone manually disabling a ccd makes sense

[magic sparrow]

Yeah, assuming the 8+4 scenario it could work, could also force affinity too

[magic sparrow]

Also I did check around and the few places that had it mentioned it was 6+6, which isnt much of a surprise as one would probably want equal core count per CCD for nice cache balancing. But, you could always do a 8+4 5950x for fun.

[low pumice]

True

[idle tiger]

Pretty sure it's always 8+4 in a 5900x

nvm, you're right, 6+6

[narrow rapids]

any recommendations for a mid-tower pc case, LED fans, maybe a set of 3?

[shrewd juniper]

Phanteks p400a digital

[verbal gate]

Newegg has the LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 W White Steel that comes with 2 200m fan upfront and a 120 nonrgb in back on sale now for$95.

[autumn iris]

So @shrewd juniper the fan curve for 100% was set to be in the like 90°C range and yet it was still going to 100% at less than 10°C

[shrewd juniper]

uhhh try the bios instead of windows software

[autumn iris]

Alright

[lime plover]

Anyone here with experience combining multiple Corsair iCue controllers?

[shrewd juniper]

Pro tip don't buy corsair anything rgb

[brisk rain]

Yes

Unfortunately yes

Long story short, nightmare

[peak moss]

Hi

[weak cobalt]

hi

[unique rock]

Best air cooler?

[shrewd juniper]

Deepcool ak620

[unique rock]

Aight lemme check it thanks

[narrow rapids]

can anyone answer a coule of q about the coolermaster 120 argb 3in1 wiring?

[knotty sparrow]

What are the questions?

[topaz blaze]

would this be good for a 3700x

[marsh badge]

just use air cooler tbh

[left pulsar]

Most $60ish air coolers would match that aio actually. Fuma 2 of Thermalrights Frost Spirt 140 for instance. FS140 is only $50ish, if you wanted to even spend that much.

[idle tiger]

Get an arctic aio, also, $200 5600x

[topaz blaze]

the evga 240 and 360clc's also go on sale a lot and can be a pretty good deal

i have 2 🤓

[shrewd juniper]

For the same price, get a deepcool ak620

[uneven solstice]

For the AFL II 360.. in bios if I set pwm to 50% at 30°c, does that mean my pump will be running at 50% while at that temp?

[shrewd juniper]

Pump should always be at 100%

Pretty sure it's just 1 header for lf2 and it only runs at 100% but could be wrong

[uneven solstice]

Yeah it's only 1 header for the pump and fans.

So if I don't set smart fan control the fans run at what I assume is 100% at 1800rpm.

I can't seem to figure out a good fan curve. Atm I set it to 50% between 0-30°c and 65°c at 100%

[shrewd juniper]

Okay then i think lf2 pump is always 100% and you just control fans

[uneven solstice]

And 75% at 50°c

[shrewd juniper]

That's pretty agreessive

[uneven solstice]

Idk really what to put it at.

[halcyon gazelle]

Looking for decent cooler for 12600k 🤔

[uneven solstice]

I felt thats better than it running 100% all the time.

[uneven solstice]

I'm using ALF II 360 for my 12600k

[shrewd juniper]

Deepcool ak620, arctic liquid freezer ii 280/360mm, ek rgb 280/360mm

[uneven solstice]

Do you have any suggestions for a fan curve that isn't so aggressive? I guess I'm worried about my cpu hitting 70 randomly while I'm not even doing anything.

[halcyon gazelle]

Isn't 360mm overkill for 12600k ? Lol I do have 360mm on 12900k

I mean 12600k is just i5 lol

[uneven solstice]

I got it because I plan on getting another cpu down the road.

I just bought something cheap to get me going.

[halcyon gazelle]

12600k is good cpu actually

12600k = 11900k

[uneven solstice]

Yeah.

[shrewd juniper]

It shouldn't jump to 70 at idle but just kinda roughly 30% at 30c and 70-80c 100% imo

[shrewd juniper]

No lol 12600k is better

[halcyon gazelle]

Lol

But lga 1700 mounting is awful

[shrewd juniper]

Not really, 360 is like 5$ more than the 280 usually anyway, and it's a hot boi, doesn't matter it's an i5

[uneven solstice]

Yeah idk why it does it. I'll wake up to hwinfo saying that it had jumped up to high 60s. Not connected to internet or anything.

[shrewd juniper]

Nah it's not

[uneven solstice]

I had no issues with the mounting. Seemed easy enough.

[shrewd juniper]

What do you have running on startup?

[uneven solstice]

Not much. I leave the pc on while I sleep.

I'm a firm believer of keeping pc on most of the time.

Only restarting or turning off if need be.

[halcyon gazelle]

I bought asus LC360 about 2 months before 12th gen launch and it had included lga1700 braket already 👍 but it was nightmare to install it lol

[shrewd juniper]

Mo point really unless you're mining

No*

Especially with an aio

[uneven solstice]

Idk. Its just how I grew up. In my teenage years I spent every day in a computer repair shop.

[shrewd juniper]

Probably cuz asetek mounting is bad

[shrewd juniper]

What lol ?

[uneven solstice]

Huh?

[halcyon gazelle]

Lol maybe . I do have gammaxx 400 pro already and I wonder if I can use it with 3th part lga1700 mounting kit 🤔

[shrewd juniper]

Lmao gammaxx 400 is hilariously underpowered for a 12600k

[shrewd juniper]

Like what's that got to do with turning it off?

[uneven solstice]

That's what they taught me.

To leave pc on.

[halcyon gazelle]

It was cooling 10700k at least lol idk really I'm so bad at cooling lol I liked k620 so far but it is giant lol

[shrewd juniper]

That's bad advice lol, if anything they were putting unnecessary usage on your hdds and fans

[halcyon gazelle]

I have B660M mobo tho

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

Ak620 would be my choice for 12600k -not in stock atm tho

[halcyon gazelle]

I see in stock at Amazon

[shrewd juniper]

Oh it was showing oos earlier -nice

[uneven solstice]

Hm. Ok. I suppose they didn't care to much considering they owned a shop and could just replace parts whenever needed.

[shrewd juniper]

It's an insane deal for 60$

[halcyon gazelle]

65$ 💸