old-cooling

[shrewd juniper]

If so it's supposed to be like that

[onyx crag]

look in dms 👍

[shrewd juniper]

looks fine

[onyx crag]

alright thanks

[karmic root]

So I need some help

I put on my aio wrong and it had thermal paste pre applied so I quickly took it off and flipped my aio should I be worried about anything?

[knotty sparrow]

Not unless you're getting higher than expected temps from uneven paste

In extreme cases if an air bubble gets trapped it can explode, but that's rare

[karmic root]

I put a good about of force to squeeze out any air

[knotty sparrow]

I'm sure it'll be fine. 12900k gets really hot, which cooler did you pick?

[karmic root]

Asus ryjin 2 360

I also didn’t leave it out for 5 minutes it was more like 1-2 minutes

[knotty sparrow]

Not bad. With proper airflow it should keep under 85 I'd estimate under heavy load test like occt or prime95.

Much less for gaming of course

[karmic root]

Yeah

I also have a question

Will I be able to get into bios without ram?

@knotty sparrow

[knotty sparrow]

No, it needs memory to pass the post (power on self test)

[karmic root]

So what happens if I power the system on without ram?

[knotty sparrow]

Some boards let you flash a new bios version without memory but that's about it.

Nothing catastrophic happens, it just throws an error code and doesn't boot

[karmic root]

Ok so could I try and just shut it off after I just wanna make sure I have everything plugged in

[knotty sparrow]

You could hit the power and see if everything turns on properly, like fans and rgb, then turn it off

[karmic root]

Ok thanks

[raw bridge]

For liquid cooled setups, how often do you have to change out the coolant?

[marsh badge]

Are you talking custom loops?

If aio, you never need to change coolant

[raw bridge]

Overall, what needs to be changed and what doesn't

[raw bridge]

I need to look up what that is

[marsh badge]

aio is a liquid cooler that already comes preassembled for you

something like

this

[raw bridge]

I recognize that, ok

[sudden blade]

can i blow my compueter to stop it from getting too warm?

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[slow condor]

i need help witth the metals combination between parts. how do i know if theyre compatible? says this radiator has brass chambers... everything has copper fins but nickel plated... copper alloy tubing... cpu block can be nickel or copper? im confused

[knotty sparrow]

Just avoid aluminum in general. Copper and nickel are fine.

[idle verge]

can someone vc and help me build my pc

@knotty sparrow @slow condor @shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Bro

[keen zenith]

But I pay u money @shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-find-it-necessary-is-it-no-need-no-need-to-do-it-not-essential-gif-15324106

[knotty sparrow]

I don't voice chat here. Like ever. I'll occasionally listen or watch a stream but no one here has heard my voice.

There's a very good reason for this too. I've seen too many cases of people being accused of saying things that break server rules and getting banned.

[severe cairn]

how easy is it to install an AIO?

this is coming from a person who built their pc from the ground up, ive switched cases multiple times, and installed new ram and storage

so i know what im doing

ig my question is how hard is it to get the aio to properly function, like how hard is the preparation to get the water flowing

well how hard is priming it

idk i sound silly

someone help pls

[knotty sparrow]

It's easier than installing a large heatsink for an air cooler on the cpu. The only trick is managing the cables.
AIO needs no prep, no priming, nothing. Plug it in and go.

[feral verge]

Random question but does anyone know which model AIO cooler has the same fans as the stock ones on the Corsair 4000x rgb case (the black one)? And does that model come in 240mm? I'm looking for a cooler to match my case

[timid carbon]

Oh hello there

[left pulsar]

Replied partly to ask you. With 11600K, not sure FS140 would be outright wasting $10ish or not. What say ye? Thnx

[knotty sparrow]

Either would be good. If you plan to overclock, fs140 is a little better.

[left pulsar]

I do a bit.I'll go for that one, still a modest price overall 👍. Perhaps in another week I'll have all the components.

[slow condor]

i like how i was asked, im honored. but all i do here is ask questions myself

[rose isle]

cables are indeed the worst part. But if you get a well designed cooler, even that is a breeze.

[left pulsar]

I bought the FS140 🤘 . Now wait maybe 3 weeks for cpu to arrive, but hopefully not.

[rose isle]

they look like SP120 elites

[shrewd juniper]

I thought pa120 was better for intel no?

[rose isle]

but dont get a corsair AIO. there are better AIOs

[shrewd juniper]

Who mentioned Corsair?

Ohh that guy nvm

[rose isle]

this person

[feral verge]

Thanks

[crimson peak]

I have a cooler master hyper 212 cpu cooler but when reinstalling in a new motherboard the plastic bracket snapped does anyone know if I could just get a replacement bracket or is a new cooler necessary no one responded when calling or msging cooler master

[topaz blaze]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-desktop-intel-core-i7-11700f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-1tb-hdd-500gb-ssd-black/6481354.p?skuId=6481354

i’ve been reading the reviews and apparently the cooler is bad for this one. how would i replace it, and what should i replace it with, if i can?

[marsh badge]

meh

that's not a good value

there's abs stuff on newegg for cheaper

[topaz blaze]

already ordered it 💀

[topaz blaze]

oh wait, i forgot there was a cancel order button lmfao
so could you maybe recommend me a few better ones or no

[marsh badge]

look around in newegg

[shrewd juniper]

That's the best choice atm

[slow condor]

are the ek vardar 120ER fans good for rads?

[shrewd juniper]

yeah but overpriced

just grab some p12s or go straight for the phanteks t30's imo

[mint spire]

Is it possible to go direct die with an additional custom loop?

I heard you needed specific waterblocks to deal with the height difference

[slow condor]

the p12s are 5 for 22 whereas vardars are 27 each.

how much worse are they

[shrewd juniper]

p12s are better for noise normalised, vardars force the just about win but compromise in noise and price

you wont notice between p12s and vardars

[shrewd juniper]

keep in mind that is the dc versions not pwm but as long as you dont need a hub/get a dc hub you wont notice

[knotty sparrow]

It depends on the processor, but most modern ones are soldered to the lid and extremely hard to remove without damage.

[mint spire]

A 10900k

Ive seen a couple people do it

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah that's possible to do. You'll want a block like the heatkiller IV pro for best results.

And liquid metal but try not to touch anything but the die with the liquid metal

[mint spire]

Noted

[nova peak]

Hello! Is anyone here familiar with Dell G5 /XPS 8940 models?

Specifically the pancake cooler vs the taller “Luxury” cooler provided for K variant processors.

[shrewd juniper]

G5 sucks

The xps is a laptop so that's different all together

[lime kite]

Ngl that sounds like something from 1995 might I suggest an upgrade

[knotty sparrow]

Tbf most dell computers look like they're from 1995

[marsh badge]

there's actually xps desktop

like this thing

it looks so much like optiplex

also yes it's crap

proprietary stuff

[knotty sparrow]

I see 1995 with more holes. It even has a disc tray.

[subtle flower]

Need a recommendation for a CPU cooler for an i5 12400 for like $40 to show someone they don't need $100 to cool a i5 xx400 class cpu

They said upgrading the stock cooler is pointless because coolers are $100

[marsh badge]

uh, not sure if any of the cheap coolers has 1700 bracket

but as is

stock cooler does just fine

as long as the case has some airflow

[timid carbon]

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-226-XT-Compatible-Heatpipes-Addressable/dp/B09FDZGJTN?th=1

[marsh badge]

ooh nice

[lime kite]

Noctua?

[marsh badge]

no

noctua isn't cheap lol

[left pulsar]

probably doesnt come w/ 1700 bracket, this is what I got for 11gen: (frost spirit 140 is even better https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PNP2FQY

[shrewd juniper]

Oh right yeah

[slow condor]

the dc will run at full speed by default?

[marsh badge]

uh

no

dc is just non pwm

[shrewd juniper]

Only if you have it on a pwm hub where it's just getting power

[sterile echo]

Finally replaced my Fuma2 with a Arctic 280 AIO. Immediate difference on a 5800x flamethrower

Loved the Fuma, but it could not tame that monster no matter what I tried. I think the biggest issue was my mATX case's airflow limitations along with a very close GPU causing the cooler to not be able to be radiate heat fast enough.

[shrewd juniper]

nice, whats the before/after temps for you?

[sterile echo]

Before was 55-65c idle, down to 30-40c

I haven't cranked it yet. Was making the swap during a meeting I wasn't participating in lol

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

That's a noticeable diff wow

[sterile echo]

yeah it was kinda surprising how much it changed. I'm going to say that the 5800x in combination with my case is the likely reason why the Fuma was not as effective.

I might give the Fuma to a friend who is using a stock cooler on a 3600x. Very curious to see if that makes and notable difference for the weaker chip under load

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah the 3600x would be cool af

[dreamy locust]

Just washed the cooler whit waterr

[shrewd juniper]

Make sure it's fully dry with like a hair dryer or something so it doesn't spit water droplets into your case

[dreamy locust]

Yes yes I know, I think in one week it will be fully dried

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh yeah definitely

[inner glacier]

hey does anyone know how to connect lian li uni fans to the motherboard kinda do not want the controller to sync it i want everything to be controlled through the mobo

[slow condor]

my gpu waterblock came with 3.5 W/mk thermal pads, should i get the gelid extreme ones instead anyways which are 12-13

[shrewd juniper]

I'd grab the thermalright odessys personally, just make sure you get right size

[wintry swift]

Hi, I bought my son a new computer for Xmas & it seems to be getting quite hot at times. Is there an internal thermometer we can access to monitor the temp? Where do I locate that information? Also, one of the cooling fans turns on & off frequently, it that normal or is it supposed to stay on?
...I hope I'm asking in the right place, I'm new to discord.. I set it up to get tech support thru Newegg. Thank you in advance. :)

[left pulsar]

Coretemp is for cpu, but hwinfo64 is a program to show tons of info

[shrewd juniper]

Hwinfo64 is most accurate but hwmonitor is a less cluttered software so I'd download and run that

[wintry swift]

Thank you both, I really appreciate the info. :)

[weary raft]

hmm what's a good air cooler for a... slight bit of a budget? and is also quiet for the lga 1200 socket

[knotty sparrow]

Liquid freezer II

Oh you said air

For which cpu?

Generally for the 400 tier or lower gammax 400 or vetroo v5 is fine for under $40, as low as $25

700 you'll want something better like scythe fuma 2

[weary raft]

i5 10400f, their budget is 80 euro

[knotty sparrow]

My recommendation stands. Vetroo v5 or gammax 400 will be fine, that's a low power chip.

[left pulsar]

Peerless assassin is good at $40ish, just putting that out there.

[native mural]

Anybody had an issue with the vrm fan not working on the arctic liquid freezer ii? I checked the connection after i first installed it and everything looked fine. Trying to decide if its worth pulling out to replace as it was kind of a pain going in my case.

[knotty sparrow]

It doesn't turn on when the cpu is high temp?

[native mural]

Well with the new cooler it doesnt get above 60 degrees C. I tried running it at 100% and no change

[knotty sparrow]

Probably a bad fan if everything else checks out then. The vrm fan really only helps with boards that have poor vrm cooling or very high power processors like 5900X.

[native mural]

I have an i7 10700kf. Didnt figure I really needed it but since it was there I was hoping it would work. Prolly not worth the hassle of pulling it out then.

[shrewd juniper]

Don't forget about id cooling :o

[topaz blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430056167977517057/915996378025574420/ifl2qlf5j3381.gif

[worn citrus]

Looking for advice with cooling solutions

I was wondering why some people might need a double fan air cooler?

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15-chromax-black

For reference.

[marsh badge]

dual fans increases air velocity

the faster and more efficient the cooler is able to dissipate its heat, the better

but it also depends on the cooler's design itself and the fans

[worn citrus]

Ah so it's just in general better cooling than a single fan

I probably will not go for it because my case is itx anyway

but it's good to know

[loud kindle]

So I'm trying g to understand Intel K vs. non-K cooling requirements. K chips come without a stock cooler because a stock cooler is inadequate for them, buy only if they are OCed?

[knotty sparrow]

Not quite. The K chips do have a higher base power draw and heat load as well.
Intel is also accounting for overclocking in that decision, yes. But if you don't want to overclock, don't get a K is their idea mainly.

[marsh badge]

^

[loud kindle]

If I have a K chip with no intention to OC, should I sell it and replace it with a non-K?

[marsh badge]

well, if you just bought it

you can return it if you want

resellin makes you lose money

[loud kindle]

Thank you!! I wish I had thought of that! I just started my RMA and ordered an i7-11700 instead!

[marsh badge]

uh well

11700 is gonna still need a cooler better than stock

[loud kindle]

Well I have the cooler.

[marsh badge]

it's hot even in non k variant

ah, good

[loud kindle]

The extra cores are better for my use anyway.

I do some video editing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBPgTJ

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu are you trying to cool?

[shrewd juniper]

I would highly advice against running that ram setup, 1 it's slow, 2 corsairs compatibility with mixed kits is iffy, 3 the timings are bad, that 2080 is incredibly overpriced

[loud kindle]

The 2080 is from the filter. I won't pay those prices.

How do you mean the RAM is slow? 3200 and I should use something higher? Is it a mixed kit if it's the same exact style RAM? What is a preferred timing setup?

[rose isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0_UcBxnpk

[loud kindle]

I ordered the i7-11700. I'm watching the video now. But it is the non-K

[timid carbon]

can u return the ram, cooler and motherboard?

[loud kindle]

Probably. Thr cooler I got for cheap though.

[timid carbon]

Could you look into it

[timid carbon]

id cancel

really not worth it

[loud kindle]

Why not?

[timid carbon]

12600k cheaper and better

5800x is nice too

you can go 16 cores on same motherboard in the future

11700 doesnt have an upgrade option and is very meh

[loud kindle]

With no GPU available right now I'm a bit hamstrung to go AMD boards.

[timid carbon]

why?

motherboard doesnt care about what gpu you use

[loud kindle]

5800x doesn't have integrated graphics

[timid carbon]

12600k then

[rose isle]

11th gen Intel is just not good

12600k is the way to go

[timid carbon]

better integrated graphics with a 12600k as well

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_11700k-1862-vs-intel_core_i5_12600k-2012

take a look

12600k beats an 11700k at single core and multicore

11700 is slightly worse than an 11700k

@loud kindle

12600k also has an upgrade path right up to the 12900ks

really no reason to go 11700 unless you get it for ~200-250$

[loud kindle]

🤔

This is difficult

[left pulsar]

My upgrade isn't just a cpu, it's always mobo+cpu (+ram)

[timid carbon]

not really just return ram, cooler, cpu and motherboard

[loud kindle]

How's NewEgg with returns?

[timid carbon]

not sure might have to pay small restocking fee

[loud kindle]

What's wrong with the cooler

[timid carbon]

its meh

you can keep it

its not bad

its just not great

more than enough tho

[loud kindle]

What should I be thinking about in terms of board options?

[timid carbon]

i could throw you a list together depending on what you return

id return cooler and ram but you dont have to

motherboard and cpu are necessary

return wise

[rose isle]

CRITICAL even

[timid carbon]

the ddr4 z690 msi a pro is a nice enough board

[loud kindle]

Even at $124 you'd return that cooler?

[timid carbon]

u can keep it

[loud kindle]

If you were going to do this build for yourself, what would you put in it? "Nice enough" meaning it's a good choice? What should I be thinking about in selecting an LGA1700 board?

[timid carbon]

id use the msi a pro

dont go ddr5

[loud kindle]

I really appreciate you're talking me through this. But can you help me understand what sets the MSI apart from any other option?

[timid carbon]

its great quality while not costing too much

[loud kindle]

What about in the RAM department?

[timid carbon]

Urs is fine but id pick up this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KyZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-128-gb-4-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18q-128gvk

actually

wait

[loud kindle]

Seems like a lot

[timid carbon]

do you need 128gb?

[loud kindle]

Probably not.

[timid carbon]

64 enough?

[loud kindle]

Productivity, video editing and some light gaming

[timid carbon]

what kind of video editing we talking about?

how many clips what resolution?

[loud kindle]

Right now 2 cameras of raw, one is 1080. Rendering to h.265

[timid carbon]

32 should be fine then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KYvqqs/gskill-ripjaws-v-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-64gvk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

get either one depending on what u want

return both corsair kits btw

[loud kindle]

I only have 1. The other was yet to be purchased.

[timid carbon]

ok then return that one

[loud kindle]

So I'm just trying to understand. Where is the benefit in changing from the Corsair to g.skill? The speed is 3600 vs. 3200. First Word Latency is 8.x vs. 10. Timings are 16 22 22 42 vs 16 18 18 38?

[timid carbon]

the 3600 and 3200 are bandwidgt numbers basically

so the gskill kit has highr bandwidth while having similar latencies

btw for ur use id look at the 32gb kit

not the 64 gb one

[loud kindle]

Any consideration to using 1 DIMM slot vs. 2 or 4?

[timid carbon]

yeah

ur running single channel mem

not as fast

you leave quite a bit of perf off the table

[loud kindle]

So 4 is better than 2 is better than 1?

[timid carbon]

sometimes

2 is 100% better than 1

but 4 is harder to run on the cpu

and doesnt offer much more perf over 2 anyway

[shrewd juniper]

Yes 3200 is basic speeds these days, 3600cl16 or more is what you want, and yes it's still mixed kits even if it's the same 2x 2x whatever gb kit, especially if it's Corsair, they mix ram chips a lot between their skews and doing that can lead to errors

[loud kindle]

Nice. No restoking fees. Just gotta cover return shipping.

[shrewd juniper]

Also do you really need 128gb ram?

Also would change the cooler to arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb/lian li Galahad if you can return the corsair

And go 12th gen instead like the others said

[timid carbon]

pato i got that all done

[loud kindle]

Board, i5-12600K, and 32GB RipJaws are on the way.

I can return the Corsair, but it was so inexpensive. I'll look at what the others will cost.

[shrewd juniper]

The others are cheaper/more size for same amount

[loud kindle]

360mm Corsair I got from Amazon Warehouse for $116 + tax

[shrewd juniper]

AHH that's not too bad actually

[rose isle]

Now thats the right way to kick off a new year! congratulations!

[loud kindle]

Heh, all the previous parts were bought in the past month.

[rose isle]

BTW, welcome to the lancool ii mesh club. if you need any help, just @ me

[loud kindle]

The case is what started this build. I found it on local Craigslist for $70

[loud kindle]

Thanks so much for all your patience and assistance.

[timid carbon]

no problem at all

[loud kindle]

I really am trying to learn how to think about these things. That's the reason for all the probing questions.

[timid carbon]

I understand. Hope your build goes great! Ping me if you have any problems

[loud kindle]

For anyone keeping score. All these changes came out to an extra $9.61 (not including my return shipping costs).

So likely $20 - $25 total and the only questionable "downgrade" being from 64GB RAM to 32GB

[shrewd juniper]

How did you spend more on less ram?

As long as you have enough ram, the only other thing that matters is how fast it is, no point having 64 or 128gb of ram if you don't use over 20gb

[loud kindle]

That's the aggregate. I went from z590 to z690, i5-11600k to i5-12600k, and 64GB (2x32) 3200 16 18 18 32 to 32GB (2x16) 3600 16 19 19 39

[shrewd juniper]

Z690 bit of a jump yeah, ram should be cheaper tho, like 160?

[loud kindle]

Yeah $153 for the RAM, down from $270.

The CPU is $296, up from $230.

and the MoBo is $223, up from $171

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh right the cpu is more too

[shrewd juniper]

If you didn't need wifi you could have gotten slightly cheaper board but probs not worth your time now

[loud kindle]

I have found Wifi to be useful, particularly on a fresh Linux install when the wired connection isn't recognized.

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[slow condor]

i want two 360 radiators to cool my case.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-coolstream-classic-pe-360 are these good enough? what makes one better than the other

[loud kindle]

This board doesn't have Wifi anyway.

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh i thought i saw you say z690 a pro wifi

[loud kindle]

MSI PRO Z690-A

Looking at my options now for improvements on that, but everything seems pretty steep.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GvmmP6/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-ddr4

[shrewd juniper]

Misread yeah

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQBG3C/asus-prime-z690-p-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-z690-p this is cheaper atm if you haven't bought yet

If not, it's only few $ not really worth it

[loud kindle]

Well the MSI lacks the E-Key socket

I have a dinky e-key wifi board I can drop in.

But what you shared is DDR5

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J9Fbt6/asus-prime-z690-p-d4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-z690-p-d4

Switched to Asus for the E-key. No reason to lose all access to wireless options for a fourth M.2 slot.

[loud kindle]

🤦‍♂️ Mailed my backplate off with the z590.

[timid carbon]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Liquid-Cooling/iCUE-ELITE-CAPELLIX-Liquid-CPU-Cooler/p/CW-9060048-WW#tab-accessories

15$ fix

not too bad

[loud kindle]

Nah, nothing I'm worried about. I ordered a generic replacement.

[shrewd juniper]

Woops my b

[loud kindle]

No problem. I actually really appreciate it as I went ahead and ordered the DDR4 version

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhh that's only compatible with certain cooler si think

Np

[loud kindle]

I see that it might not be. I bet it would work, but I cancelled it anyway.

[timid carbon]

get the one i sent

ELITE Series Retention Kit

[loud kindle]

That took me to the $170 AIO

[timid carbon]

is what you need

[timid carbon]

give it a few seconds

dont scroll

[loud kindle]

Corsair doesn't like my browser or extensions.

But also doesn't work in an unsullied browser.

[timid carbon]

click on accessories then

on the aio pafge

[loud kindle]

Got it. OOS

rough mistake!

[timid carbon]

contact corsair support

[loud kindle]

I did.

Fingers crossed.

[untold stream]

Good day guys, I have a problem with my newly built pc. I have a TUF Z590-Plus WiFi mobo, and an Inplay ICE 240AX AIO Cooler. The problem is that during post, it says 'CPU Fan speed error detected', and then afterwards says 'CPU over temperature error'. I have checked that the pump is plugged into the CPU_fan header as what the post says, and followed the suggestion that says I should try adjusting/disabling Fan Speed Low Limit on the bios. But still my pc keeps turning off, and by inspection the pump is very hot. What should I do?

[left pulsar]

Pump doesn't usually go to that normal fan header and/or you need a fan plugged into there. Pump usually goes to a header that is generally labeled "pump"-something.

[untold stream]

I have tried plugging it on the AIO_pump header last night, but still got the error. Will try it again today, maybe I was just tired last night. Just wanted to add, that in the cooler's manual, it suggests that the pump should be plugged into a SYS_fan header but my mobo doesn't have one. Only CHA_fan headers.

[shrewd juniper]

Tbf a pump header is just a case header at 100% but yeah try putting an aio fan on the cpu_fan instead of the pump

[untold stream]

We just let the technician at the store build this pc for us, since I don't want to hassle myself and also if there's anything that will go wrong, I would not be blamed since I am not confident on building it myself.

[left pulsar]

Cpu fan error was for not having a normal fan in CPU fan header, but idk about the temp issue. Perhaps a faulty mounting. Good idea having store do it for warranty/guarantee though

[rose isle]

are the fans on the radiator spinning?

[untold stream]

Yes there were.

[rose isle]

which header are they plugged into?

[untold stream]

They were initially plugged in the CPU_fan header. I tried plugging it in the AIO_pump header, but it didn't solve the problem.

[rose isle]

no no, the fans must be plugged into the CPU fan header

[untold stream]

I'm currently at the store now, and they just solved the problem. The pump was the culprit, it was faulty. They replaced it with a new one now. Thank you so much guys for the help!

[rose isle]

ok

glad you came right

[left pulsar]

Glad to hear. Sorry if I was confusing or not much help. Pump issue causing a hot cpu is 1 of the very few reasons I'm still somewhat leary of an aio.

[untold stream]

Hey no worries. Your response to my post is very much appreciated...

[loud kindle]

What are the others?

[left pulsar]

Other things would simply be why an aio hasn't been my preference. case compatibility, overall unneeded, and to a lesser extent, price. tbh I'll give em a shot now, but my new Phanteks P400A isn't the best for non-air. PA120 needs to go back because it seems it's not ok for lga1700. I'm at least returning the 11600K just like you as soon as I get it.

[loud kindle]

Am I just tired or is there no diference in the top two images?

I see it now.

[left pulsar]

nothing a router/drillbit wouldn't have fixed? lol. So i might need to hunt for a mobo and pick a cooler now

[loud kindle]

Yeah that's a chop Dremel job

I ordered the MSI z690 at 219.99, the cancelled and ordered the Asus Prime for the same price.

The difference was the MSI had 4 m.2 slots but no m.2 E-key for wifi

[left pulsar]

prime z690-P? doesnt have crap for usb ports on the back panel. I'd use all 4 for my peripherals. Hmm, I'm not familiar w/ E-key. the tiny wifi things I suppose

[low pumice]

The z690-a pro is really nice for the feature it offers at the price tbh, you typically wouldn't use m.2 e key anyways, pcie cards are so much simpler

You'd have to mess around with wiring up antennas if you're using m.2 key e wifi chip on its own, pcie wifi cards tend to be just a m.2 key e wifi card like ax200 and just strapped into a pcie card and with antennas attached

[low pumice]

Also, if you wanted wifi, z690-a pro also has a wifi varient for like 10$ more

[loud kindle]

Darn. I'm gonna regret it?

[low pumice]

Just going to echo some of buildzoid's thoughts, you pay the same price as the MSI board for less everything, no bios flashback, no troubleshooting LEDs, less sata ports, less m.2 slots, less USB ports.
https://youtu.be/Q371XD5Ic_s
(Starting at around 24:20)

And to echo buildzoid's conclusions, it's not a bad board in general, it just offers less than other offerings at the price

[left pulsar]

What'd you get for ax200 pcie card by chance? If I needed wifi someday I'd probably get (something like) this: (but I've already got 1 good Cat6 cable ran under the house for my PC, lol.)

[low pumice]

Didn't even notice z690-p didn't have flashback but it doesn't, which is sad

[left pulsar]

That 1 mobo seems to have gone after looks and sacrificed some function

[low pumice]

Newegg has tons, so does Amazon, but something as simple as
https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-ax3000-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-00075

[low pumice]

I feel like Asus really slacked off on that board and just tried to have their brand name carry them

It's just so bare bones it might as well be a ds3h

[loud kindle]

I ordered the MSI -a w/ WiFi. Just gonna send the Asus back.

[low pumice]

I feel like MSI will once again be the solid budget option for boards this gen

[rose isle]

They got burned by their first round of X570s, so now they overcompensate. which is not a bad thing

[low pumice]

I mean, that was the one bad thing, z390-a was good before their x570 boards having crap VRMs, and z490 and z590 MSI boards have been solid options

Heck, I also still really like b550m pro vdh wifi as a budget board, it just checks so many boxes at a good price

Welp, enough of me being a MSI fanboy for now

[loud kindle]

Not at all, it is good to get your perspective.

[left pulsar]

I was eyeing these 2 for a min, but yikes on the price for B660. I'm itching to see some H670 stuff also. tbh I guess I need to decide on a cooler for lga1700 anyways.

[shrewd juniper]

That is sad didn't realize that :(

[shrewd juniper]

They be too much lol not even ddr5 variants

[left pulsar]

ikr, sort of stings even w/ the lower price from a 12400 vs a 12600 factored in. Hey does the msi z690-A* have the flash back deal?

[shrewd juniper]

It does have flashback i think,lemme double check tho

It does

I'm hoping cheaper b660/h670s come out soon

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NWDQ1TH @left pulsar

[left pulsar]

Not too shabby. Now that's a decent match for 12400(f) and/or the i3's. Hmm, ya think 12600K would be too much for this?

[shrewd juniper]

Yes, overpriced cooler anyway

[marsh badge]

for that you can get like peerless

and it would perform better

[left pulsar]

yeah, idk if it works on 12gen socket.

[left pulsar]

here

[uneven thicket]

Lol you can get much bigger coolers for that price from Deepcool

[cedar solstice]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0982VWQN1?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Cheaper, better

I don't remember if the bracket is included

[uneven thicket]

This looks soo much better and has much girth to it

[left pulsar]

Oh so you think there's already a lga 1700 bracket? Also: (ordered this when I was planning on an 11600K)

[cedar solstice]

I don't know you may have to buy it

Ah you got the frost spirit

Even better

[marsh badge]

frost spirit is more like for amd tbh

[shrewd juniper]

Does the screenshot not say lga 1700

Wait wrong cooler lol

[left pulsar]

Best case it's free and I just have to wait, worst case I have to pay $15-20 or decide on another cooler. 🙂

[shrewd juniper]

Wait what?

[left pulsar]

I mean a lga 1700 bracket for PA120, etc. Woohooz DM'd me an example from aliexpress

[cedar solstice]

Thermalright hasn't shipped with brackets yet, they come separately

For 1700

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh i was confused cuz i thought they were going 11th gen

[left pulsar]

My bad. I've been enlightened and going 12 gen like 1cculus.

[cedar solstice]

12th gen is the move

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh so what you doing with the 11600k/z590?

[left pulsar]

cpu back to amazon and mobo to wherever and get close to $175 if I'm lucky.

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh good luck

[loud kindle]

The #old-cooling channel is where it's at I am finding.

[deep stag]

Is there anything I can do to cool my PC more in the Fractal Design Define C case or do I need a bigger case? I already upgraded the intake fans to a bigger size

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu, what cpu cooler

[deep stag]

i7 8700k and Thermalright Macho Rev. B. and I have a triple fan 3080ti. Both the gpu and cpu run cooler if I take the side panel off

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh em you can make your fan curves more aggressive

You can also undervolt gpu

[deep stag]

I already undervolted the gpu 😳 I guess I can work out a fan curve that’s silent when not gaming and aggressive when I am

[shrewd juniper]

Ye

[deep crescent]

So I'm pretty new into PC stuff and need a new CPU cooler, but I don't know what Air cooler to get that will fit my motherboard.

[deep crescent]

Found my answer, nvm

[ripe tapir]

should I get more than 1 PC chasis fan?

[left pulsar]

Probably

[left pulsar]

What you using on your 12gen? Dang lga1700 bracket is gonna take 2+ weeks from china if I do that. Others options is buy a different big $$ cooler or just go ahead and setup the 11gen stuff this weekend :lul:

[keen ermine]

Are laptop cooling pads good/worth it or could I make my own better

[left pulsar]

They're basically just a platform w/ a couple small fans.

[keen ermine]

Is there a way to rig case fans up with a circuit

Or is there better fans that I can get

Because I'm just thinking of laser cutting a stand then putting fans in it under where my laptop's fans are

[left pulsar]

CRJ DC Power Supply for 2 x 3/4-Pin 12V Computer PC Case Fans https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FNN9W7

[keen ermine]

What would good fans be to get?

Preferably quiet

[left pulsar]

Soemthing like the "silent" model of the arctic F12/P12/p12/p14 (number=CM)

[keen ermine]

What is better, pressure or airflow

[left pulsar]

Pressure is generally when used next to a rad or mesh of a case. There are plenty of 1k-1300rpm fans around but idk which ones are a good deal. Previous time I bought a pack of fans was a 4pk of cooler masters for $20ish :lul:. Itching to test the p12 pwm fans I just bought, I imagine they'd be stuck at 1800rpm w/ a plain ac adapter.

[nova peak]

I’m new to cooling. I will have a tall tower heatsink in a Dell with no front airflow…. Do I want the heatsink fan facing toward the exhaust fans and blowing to those exhaust fans? Or do I want a fan on both sides of the heatsink?

[left pulsar]

Case exhaust fan & at least have a "push" fan on the "front" of the cpu heatsink

[keen ermine]

Ok for the laptop pad I'm getting 2 140mm and 1 80mm fan/s

So I can have the 80mm at the back pulling air in through the back

And the 2 140mm ones pushing air into the laptop intake

So far I have 2 of the deepcool rf 140mm

And one be quiet pure wings 2

[keen ermine]

Should I make it with MDF (wood) or clear acrylic?

Because RGB would be cool

[timid carbon]

wood

[left pulsar]

Good wood is like a gpu. :lul:

[primal prairie]

hello, i want cpu cooler for i7-12700k in newegg

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer/ek rgb/lian li Galahad 280/360/420mm(if case allows)

[primal prairie]

the new bracket is already there or i have to order it separately ?

[shrewd juniper]

Ik that arctic and ek definitely has their, i don't know about lian li tho

[glacial spindle]

is corsair CPU waterblock worth replacing for a "better" one? Can thermals really be thaaat much better?

[low pumice]

Waterblock, it really won't matter that much for thermals as long as its decent

Radiator you might see a decent difference

[left pulsar]

Mounting acting up? Perhaps the pump isn't working right. Some aios are seeming a bit lackluster lately tbh.

[loud kindle]

I got jammed up on my retention plate, since I sent it back with my motherboard to Newegg. The LGA 1700 retrofit kit was only $3 and shipped quickly, expected to arrive Tuesday.

[left pulsar]

That's quick though. Which cooler you go with? I'm in a jam deciding on waiting on TR bracket, getting Asus mobo, or buying a cooler w/ 1700 bracket incl. Dang Noctuas are overpriced & I prefer air, might just have to try an aio huh. Look at the box of this FS140 lol, massive.

[loud kindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8jFKHx/corsair-icue-h150i-elite-capellix-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060048-ww

[loud kindle]

I picked mine up through Amazon Warehouse for $116.

Although I had to go through obstacles. I ordered one at $132, but it came missing all the mounting hardware, the Corsair Command module, and the three fans had been taken out and replace with 2 lower end fans. I sent that back and tried again with the cheaper one and it was good!

[left pulsar]

👍

[real mauve]

Hey guys, does the ASUS ROG STRIX G15 (RTX 3070 + R9 5900X) have any cooling issues? i bought it, I’m lowkey kinda scared, I’ve seen some yt comments saying it reaching to 90c. Any updates, it cost me every penny I had lol

[sacred wren]

Laptops tend to have cooling issues period, you could try a cooling pad but they don't tend to help more than a few degrees

[low pumice]

Pretty normal for laptops to be running at those temperatures anyways

Doesn't point to the laptop being bad

[real mauve]

i know but the comment says issues like running 1 game and getting 90c @low pumice

[real mauve]

yeah I know that exists

[shrewd juniper]

90c is pretty normal for laptops

[real mauve]

yes but not 1 game

[shrewd juniper]

if its too hot for you you can try undervolting, using a software to control fans and make curve more agressive or use liquid metal if youre brave enough

[shrewd juniper]

yes in 1 game

[real mauve]

but won’t that get my hand hot when I use it

[shrewd juniper]

who plays 2 games at once

[real mauve]

it’s because I keep my hand on the keyboard

[real mauve]

I develop and play

[shrewd juniper]

no, they have to be engineered to keep the keybord below like 40c or something at all times

[shrewd juniper]

still will be same heat

[real mauve]

o wow

and with that heat, will it decrease the of battery span?

because that’s kinda hot

[shrewd juniper]

nah theyre supposed to run that hot

[real mauve]

oh good

wait is the legion better than the g15?

[shrewd juniper]

obvs it depends which one but yes

they have higher power gpus in them

[real mauve]

dang it

but they’re 10 times more expensive

[shrewd juniper]

Where?

[native mural]

I assume if I remove my cpu cooler, even if it has only been on for 2 weeks, I will need to reapply thermal paste? Trying to resolve the VRM fan issue of not working on my arctic freezer ii

[loud kindle]

Is there any reason why you wouldn't clean and reapply paste anyway? Just seems like a good practice with limited downside to me.

[native mural]

Other than I can do it now versus waiting for thermal paste

I figured the answer was reapply but just hoping to work on it today and i have no thermal paste

[loud kindle]

If it isn't dry you're probably okay.

But I will defer to others with more experience.

[low pumice]

@real mauve It all doesn't really matter that much, laptops are engineered to be fine at those temperatures, thermal throttling is a protection feature too, that'll keep the laptop from damaging itself or anything like that, and in the end, you could do undervolting and such if you want to do that

[real mauve]

That sorted all my problems, thank you so much.

now I’m really exited for it to come 👍

[slow condor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D6WFZSH/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_HP0HK0F5D19RXHQP98PS

EKWB EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11D D5 PWM Distroplate, Digital RGB, Plexi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D6WFZSH/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_HP0HK0F5D19RXHQP98PS

That’s $400 and can’t even do two 360 rads?

[loud kindle]

@low pumice any thoughts on the "one cool trick" to shave 5 degrees off your Alder Lake CPU?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/easy-mod-reduces-alder-lake-cpu-temperatures-5-degrees-celsius

[low pumice]

It could be, we'll see

[loud kindle]

I may need to snag a few M4 1MM washers before I mount my CPU.

[idle tiger]

You want a lotes socket

[fading storm]

So I bought a PC which has a terrible CPU cooler. Literally bottom of the barrel so I want to replace it ASAP.

But idk what's a good swap for it. Any recos?

[timid carbon]

what pc

[fading storm]

Tried posting it but got a link error

[left pulsar]

type in cpu or mobo, you can. You're simply not ranked up yet to post the link

[timid carbon]

dm me

[loud kindle]

Is there a way to determine which socket each model has prior to ordering? I have the MSI z690 Pro-A coming today.

[mint spire]

How do i know if my gpu heatsink is made of copper or nickel to make sure its safe for liquid metal

[left pulsar]

Wed have to look it up to be more sure. Usually fins are aluminium & heatpipes & base is copper or nickle-plated copper. Pic is just an example.

[rose isle]

Do you mean your stock cooler heatsink, or ????

[mint spire]

Im scared mine might be aluminum

[rigid hedge]

are these good fans to get?

https://www.amazon.ca/ARCTIC-F12-Pack-Standard-Computer/dp/B092ZV2MGL/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2OIHQS95QC4PD&keywords=computer%2Bfans&qid=1642173785&sprefix=computer%2Bfans%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-6&th=1

[shrewd juniper]

meh

[shrewd juniper]

get arctic p12's instead

[rigid hedge]

okay thanks, I'll take a look

[mint spire]

Are the p120 bionixes better than the p12’s or nah?

[marsh badge]

not worth the price increase

[shrewd juniper]

no

[marsh badge]

also ^

bionix is outdated

[rigid hedge]

damn I missed the sale for the value pack of p12 pwm fans lol

rip

[shrewd juniper]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t7WBD3/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00135a this is still good price

granted its dc but thats fine if you arent using a pwm hub

[rigid hedge]

so these are okay to use too?

[shrewd juniper]

ye

[rigid hedge]

okay thank you for the link

appreciate it

[shrewd juniper]

np

[fading storm]

iBuyPower TraceMR223i

I found it

[mint spire]

The p120 argb has this sick ring light

But its expensive and worse

[timid carbon]

should do an arctic freezer 280mm from the looks of it

[fading storm]

A hybrid cooler? Is an air cooler not sufficient?

[oblique sinew]

is a h100i elite capellix enough for a 5800x

[shrewd juniper]

It's called an aio btw, air isn't as good especially for the price

[shrewd juniper]

If you already have it, it will do but ideally arctic liquid freezer/ek rgb/lian li galahad 240/280/360

[oblique sinew]

well i have it already but i do enjoy my corsair products so i wasn’t planning on switching up the brand

just wondered if the cooling would suffice for a bit till my 240mm or my 360mm comes in. haven’t decided which one im doing yet

also thank you @shrewd juniper

huge help homie

[fading storm]

Oh cool. Didn't know it had a specific name.

What do you mean by air wouldn't be as good?

[shrewd juniper]

Water has a higher thermal capacity and stuff

[left pulsar]

What cooler or gpu anyways? The base itself it's rarely aluminum. The fins are often aluminum because it's lighter/cheaper than copper & good enough.

[low pumice]

well, more that there's more water and radiator means a big heatsink, but further from the socket

The liquid inside heatpipes prob has much higher thermal conductivity but very little of it

[shrewd juniper]

yeah that too , more important, thats just what i could think of at the time lol

[left pulsar]

Also high dependence on a decent water block and pump, that's for sure. Would be neat to see a water block w/ like an 80mm tower heatsink on it ( I know that sounds sort of dumb though.)

[mint spire]

Do p12 silents perform any worse than regular p12’s?

[keen ermine]

What are some good quiet 140mm fans (preferably cheap as well)

[shrewd juniper]

Afaik p12 silents just have lower max rpm, so just get some regulars and max the max lower or something although they're barely audible anyway

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p14

[keen ermine]

Oh wow they are cheap

17 bucks is a lot less than what I was looking at

Are there 80mm versions or is there something better for that

[shrewd juniper]

Australia?

Arctic f8

Or arctic p8

[keen ermine]

Yeah aus

[shrewd juniper]

Should be less than 17

Wrong 1

@keen ermine
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/case-fan/#sort=price&s=80,140&m=77

[keen ermine]

Thanks for that

I'm getting these for a laptop cooling pad, would these work for that?

[shrewd juniper]

Probably not

[keen ermine]

I'm thinking of 2 140mms under the laptop fans and 1-2 80m intake fans on the side because it-s going to be a box

[oak wharf]

I have a cooler master hp500 mesh, with the stock fans and a top mounted rad in exhaust set up for my cpu, but I getting really high temps on my gpu(6900xt). Any suggestions on how to better manage my gpu temps?

[left pulsar]

The big dual intake fans aren't working good? Part of why I hate psu shields also. W/ my old case I have a bottom intake fan blasting right at the gpu. 👍

[oak wharf]

They are working, but they don’t seem to be moving enough air, I don’t know how to check what they are at.
Bottom intake, okay, I will look into that

[left pulsar]

hwinfo64 is 1 program to shows tons of info and fan rpm. I'd say check in bios, perhaps the front fans are set on pwm or something and so they're not going at a higher rpm. pwm acting up is why one of my case fans was at 300rpm instead of the usual 1100-ish one day.

[oak wharf]

Okay, so change off of pwm, or toggle it to fix it?
Also I don’t think the hp500 can fit a bottom intake fan unfortunately

[left pulsar]

Right, for the front fans specifically adjust or could try pwm "disabled". I'm not sure how loud/fast they go at full speed but it's worth a quick try. Might just be a different sort of fan "curve" to select in bios.

[oak wharf]

Okay, I am not the concerned about noise really, except obnoxiously loud.

Thanks for the help! I will give it a try!

[left pulsar]

idk what your bios is like but here's an example. CPU fan of course can stay pwm but lower down notice how the other fans are. There should be a spot in bios that lists most of your fans and their rpms then you can sort of figure out which you want/need to go faster.

[oak wharf]

Okay, though is it based of motherboard connections or individual fans, bc all of my case fans are through on connection on the board

[oak wharf]

Just changed the bios, that fixed it! Thanks again chillin

[compact ravine]

I've had heat issues with the 5800x granted im using a 5600x stock cooler but I came across this video that completely shocked me. I was getting 90-91 degrees playing rainbow six seige on max settings and it was bad. After doing this I'm at a stable 55 degrees. You maybe wondering if this lessens fps but it actully increases your fps by letting the gpu do a little more work. I just wanted to share this before you upgrade to a new cooler this saved me money. https://youtu.be/I3Nujm8D8ys

[left pulsar]

Sorry just saw this. Ok, good to hear.

[stiff wolf]

What y’all up to

[marsh badge]

double posted

so imma just add something as an asterisk here

it's just a workaround, the best way is to actually have good cooling to get maximum perf lel

im not saying it's bad, but ya know having proper cooling goes a long way

[left pulsar]

Speaking of thermal throttling, it's neat to see which drives do extra well with write-heavy stuff. It's crazy how hot some nvme stuff can get, but makes since with what they are and being 3-4 times the speed of sata.

[marsh badge]

wew

yeah that's what happens when you squeeze high perf into tiny package

it's why enterprise drives that are super speedy uses 2.5" form factor

2.5" pcie stuff

[left pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-in-hair-fabulous-wind-nicolas-cage-con-air-freedom-gif-5261079

or just have some dang airflow, LuL

[marsh badge]

even with airflow they run toasty

[left pulsar]

20C lower w/ a 120mm fan nearish though. agreed

[marsh badge]

it's the limitations of m.2 form factor

an ssd could only get so fast in that form factor before needing some cooling

some even has water block

[shrewd juniper]

Make your fan curves more aggressive

[loud kindle]

I picked up some flat nylon washers from Lowes. They are #6 and I need to put a micrometer on them to make sure they are 1mm thick. I haven't mounted my CPU at all yet.

[shrewd juniper]

Watch this first btw
https://youtu.be/ezauy4as4lI

[loud kindle]

Sounds like low risk for CPUs that haven't been installed yet, and only helps with thermals in some instances but will reduce the unnecessary pressure on the board in almost all cases so long as it is done before the first install.

[shrewd juniper]

should but just remember that he was using a lapped cpu block which means its way more fat than usual

and he has sample size of 1

[loud kindle]

Doesn't lapped mean thinner? I thought lapping was gently scouring one side to bring it closer to flat.

[loud kindle]

Right, in terms of the thermals his sample was 1. But the sheer nature of what went into the decision on LGA1700 size seems to imply all CPUs are going to warp to some degree over time and the washers will relieve that to some extent.

My micrometer has them at .034 inches, or 0.86mm. I'm gonna go ahead and install them.

[shrewd juniper]

lapped means flattening it out basically

[shrewd juniper]

yes but as he also mentioned the cooler manufacteres combat this by curving the cooler

[loud kindle]

flattening it out by removing the raised material, not adding to the lower materials. Lapped will always be thinner than it was prior to lapping.

[loud kindle]

The cooler manufacturers account for the variance from the factory. The discussion is about the excess tension on the LGA1700 mount causing additional warping due to uneven pressure, over time and during operating temps.

[shrewd juniper]

yes

[shrewd juniper]

i mean you do you

[loud kindle]

I'm certainly no expert. I've installed a total of 3 CPUs, only one LGA1700 and those numbers include the one I just did a few minutes ago.

What do you see as the downside to the adjustment? Worse Temps?

The video mentions memory channel failures and PCI 5 concerns, but said those were about chips that were installed, warped, then installing the washers and reinstalling the chip.

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah worse temps most likely

As your cooler will have a bend to conform, if you put the washers it might do the opposite, cpu flat cooler vent

[loud kindle]

I'll mount it up when the retention plate gets here and take it back off to see the thermal paste pattern. Anything questionable I'll take our the washers.

[left pulsar]

People used to lap the base plate of a hsf for best temps because quality varied, just a tidbit

[fathom scarab]

can somone help me find a cpu fan?

Max Cpu cooler height on my case is 120mm, my cpu socket is a lga 1700 socket, it's a i7 1200k so i'd need like 190 w? idk im pretty new to this

12700k*

[shrewd juniper]

What case?

[fathom scarab]

Corsair Carbide Series Air 240

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer ii 240mm

[fathom scarab]

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186247?Description=Arctic liquid freezer ii 240mm&cm_re=Arctic_liquid freezer ii 240mm-_-35-186-247-_-Product&quicklink=true

This?

[shrewd juniper]

Heah

[fathom scarab]

hm, ok thanks

[quick locust]

Yo is it possible to have 4 intake fans on 1 rad

Like 2 infront and back

And if so how should I do it?

Where do I connect the other 2 fans

[low pumice]

Its possible but it just not worthwhile

barely any improvement if any

[quick locust]

K

Another question

Is it ok if I just have 2 on back

None infront

Will it effect the cooling?

Or still stay practicly the same

[low pumice]

It'll basically be the same

as long as you're not doing something crazy like strapping fans to the outside of the case

[quick locust]

K

Aight thz

[raven bane]

I need a good aio for 3970x

I've seen 2 models but literally almost no useful reviews

Budget isnt a problem I need the best possible

[loud kindle]

Any case restrictions? Can you fit a 400mm radiator on top?

[timid carbon]

arctic freezer 2

[raven bane]

no restrictions I just need the best

[raven bane]

yeah thats also in my mind but it doesnt cover the entire TR4 IHS so r u sure

[shrewd juniper]

Don't think that has a tr mounting

[timid carbon]

right i forgor tr

[shrewd juniper]

You considered custom loop? And what case?

[raven bane]

everything will be bought including the case

so case isnt a restriction rn

custom loops yeah they're the best but its not for me and person who'll be installing this might have hard time with it

Im also on custom loop side but if there's an alternative I can take it

[timid carbon]

https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

https://www.alphacool.com/Eisbaer is looking great

[shrewd juniper]

Right, well I'd probably do this and replace the fans with these fans
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tsndnQ/alphacool-eisbaer-420-6231-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-11390

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/62hKHx/arctic-p14-pst-728-cfm-140-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00138a

[raven bane]

is this brand good I've never heard of it

@shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Model is more important but yeah

[raven bane]

ok this looks good

thanks I will add this to list and maybe we will do custom loop idk.

aurora model is ok as well right

thats easier to get for me

@shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

[raven bane]

ok

[raven bane]

I also need 9x 140mm fans sorry for the ping but can you help with that as well

Case is rog strix helios

[shrewd juniper]

arctic p14's the same ones i linked above

[raven bane]

ok

[lime kite]

Boomer

[hazy axle]

I think you guys work for arctic or something lol. It’s all you recommend

[knotty sparrow]

They're hands down the cheapest high pressure fans

[shrewd juniper]

They make a lot of great products for cheap

[hazy axle]

I get it just funny.

[shrewd juniper]

Their aios and fans are dirt cheap and the p12 performs within margin of a a12x25 by noctua

[knotty sparrow]

Better fans exist but they're 5x the price or more

[shrewd juniper]

Literally 5 pack of p12s is 1.5 or less a12x25's or phanteks t30

[hazy axle]

Not to mention noctuas are ugly as sin

[shrewd juniper]

Or you can pay 30$ for a black a12x25

Vs p12 5 pack 39$ for pwm

Or holy crap 22$ for dc 5 pack 🥵

[low pumice]

not enough love for nidec gt's

[shrewd juniper]

When i can get 1 for less than a 5 pack of p12s sure

[low pumice]

23$ for the gt's

[shrewd juniper]

Okay that's bit better but I'd rather have 5 slightly worse fans 😤

[low pumice]

dbb.

[languid gale]

He knows our secrets

[deft edge]

hey guys i keep hearing that you shouldnt use liquid metal paste on aluminum coolers

can i put conductonaut (LM) on a scythe fuma 2

[knotty sparrow]

It eats aluminum

Fuma 2 is nickel plated copper

[deft edge]

So ill be fine

[knotty sparrow]

Yep

[deft edge]

i also have an i5-10600k cpu

is the heatsink gonna react

[knotty sparrow]

Should be great

[deft edge]

the uhh lid on the cpu

oh ok

thank you !!

also can i put it on my gpu

i have a 5700XT from gigabyte

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah those are usually copper or nickel plated

Just for the die though, leave the pads on the memory

[deft edge]

oh alright, thank u bro

huge help

[shrewd juniper]

Dbb?

[low pumice]

dual ball bearing

p12 pwm pst is dbb

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh right

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-working-hat-suitcase-cute-gif-14667480

[timid carbon]

hes onto us

scramble

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-family-rushing-crazy-gif-10560703

[hazy axle]

I knew it!

[dim sand]

those corsair 500mm fans be useful

[karmic root]

So I have a 360 aio and have a set of rgb fans on the one side but my aio came with 3 noctua fans and I want to put them on the other side does that matter?

[shrewd juniper]

Usually doesn't make a difference

[untold scaffold]

make sure your case has the room for it and you have the screws necessary to even set it up, push/pull configs can be awkward to setup sometimes

[keen ermine]

What would be better for a laptop cooling pad, Arctic f14s or Arctic p14s

[low pumice]

p14

[left pulsar]

F12/F14 is good w/ no blockage at all. Probably why they're rarely suggested.

[low pumice]

Its also just older

[lime kite]

Did anyone hear my new PC case dropped my CPU Load temps by 25 celcius

[loud kindle]

That's a big difference.

[lime kite]

I know! It shocked me

[loud kindle]

You think the old case is that bad or the new one is that good?

[lime kite]

Old case is that bad

For sure

There was no airflow

[idle tiger]

p12/p14 are just better in any use case

[floral cipher]

Any good budget cooling I'm near a micro center

[worn kayak]

I have 3 case fans, the top one spins 100% of the time, the middle 70% and the bottom 40%. Just sometimes stays there slightly jiggling. (I'm new to pc hardware)

I checked the bios and when its not spinning, it says "N/A"

Right now, the bottom one isn't spinning, not sure why 🤔

[shrewd juniper]

Actually even with nothing in the way p14 performs equal/better can't remember so it's just a clear winner

[keen ermine]

thanks

[dreamy locust]

I need thermal paste for my new build
I literally forgot that
Best one? Cheap and good
I always used the arctic one included with the cooler

Artic thermal paste is good?

Is mx2 good (it's only 5€ and 4grams)

Or should I spend more on Mx4 that is 8g and 8€?

[shrewd juniper]

Thermal paste comes with the cooler btw

Just use that

[dreamy locust]

But the cooler is the only thing I haven't changed

I used the thermal paste for the 2600x

[shrewd juniper]

You have some paste left over?

[dreamy locust]

No...

It was only 0.8g

[shrewd juniper]

If not get some arctic mx4 or mx5 yeah

[dreamy locust]

4grams is enough to apply on 5-6 CPUs
Right?

[shrewd juniper]

4g is plenty yeah

[dreamy locust]

Last time I used a lot of thermal paste and cleaning the cooler and CPU was a mess

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah you don't needa use that much

[dreamy locust]

Ok thank you
I'm gonna buy the mx4 or 5

But what's the difference

Is the mx5 better?

Just checked
Mx5 gives you -2°C

[shrewd juniper]

Mx5 is thicker, honestly hust get the cheaper one

Mx5 is a bit better and thicker but small difference

[dreamy locust]

I don't think it's worth 4€ more

[shrewd juniper]

Nope

[left pulsar]

I got the FS140 instead, but going by this think I should return it now & rebuy it or another cooler later that 100% has the 1700 bracket incl?

[shrewd juniper]

I mean you can always contact thermalright and ask

Some of their coolers have it

[left pulsar]

That msg being today is pretty recent. Also waiting on an email reply from T.R. Yeah a few are good now. I might expect a slight price increase for some that end up 1700-ready out of the box.

[raw bridge]

Distilled water is the best

[knotty sparrow]

Technically speaking yes, but you also need to put a bunch of anti-growth additive for long term use

[topaz blaze]

hello, how loud do desktop fans have to be to consider cooling replacement?

[gloomy hearth]

It depends on the individual, some don't care and some do. If the noise starts to bother you then look for other options.

[left pulsar]

sound pitch also varies by fan, so just because some are lower rpm doesn't mean they're be quieter or less bothersome. That's why certain "quiet" fans can be expensive, and we often suggest the arctic P12/P14. The pwm models are also good, but pricier for obvious reasons.

[kind apex]

and just because they are quiet at a certain rpm doesnt meant they will be at others

those wierd evga fans are so quiet at low to mid rpm you cant hear them and then turn into a jet engine as soon as you approach high rpm

[left pulsar]

That's true. I usually run 1200rpm fans as 1 way to avoid the jet engine effect, and soon I'll test out the P12 pwm fans.

[kind apex]

the evga fans are probably a bad example since they came with my aio but I've experienced it before with other fans just cant think of a specific example

now the noctua NF-F12 Premium I have for example is quiet even at full rpm

[left pulsar]

Some fans just aren't great, but if 2-3 are similar then that's a decent example. An old good/cheap one was Yate Loon. funny name, but well liked.

[kind apex]

think the noctuas cap at 1500rpm

[left pulsar]

yep, unless you do one like this . Still sort of tough to try at $14each, lol. It's their lower-noise adapters that also work really well usually

[kind apex]

now that will probably be loud lol

for noctua performance does not mean quiet

If I was rich I would buy those mag lev fans gimmick or not I've seen them in person and they are stupid quiet

[left pulsar]

mhm, and 1700+ rpm is certainly getting up there. I wanted to try this: but the price is wack (I mean vs the other ones)

[kind apex]

yeah 1700 is probably a little much for case cooling

[left pulsar]

have you used the 1200rpm adapter at all? what's your take

[kind apex]

nope never used

I feel like if one really cares about the noise they will buy $20-25 fans like I did or deal with it lol

[left pulsar]

The 1700 model has pwm at least, so could potentially just limit the max rpm that way. Also, agreed. In the long-run it's not that crazy of a purchase.

[kind apex]

One question I have is have you ever seen a good 80mm fan? I have these 2 80mm spots for fans for my hdd's in the basement of my case and I cant seem to find fans that last for more than 2 years without a bearing going out

[kind apex]

even the $16 noctuas I bought died I think its a cursed size...

[left pulsar]

oh... yeah, 80mm is tough because the bearings and everything probably have to be smaller or something, so quality suffers vs the bigger fans

[kind apex]

I had the NF-A8's

[kind apex]

I guess so...

[left pulsar]

perhaps try this one or similar

[kind apex]

I think I will try 2 of those and see what happens

Its not like my hdd's need cooled but I dont like empty fan spots..

[left pulsar]

or the Noctua NF-R8 redux-1200. It's only 3 pin, but stuck at 1200rpm might not be too loud. Also support a certain lower-voltage cable too.

[kind apex]

yeah right now I just have 2 dead no longer spinning noctuas in there lol

I still let them have power in case they want to start a fire or something lol

that and its a super pain to unplug/move/reach my hand into that spot of the case

[left pulsar]

I just realized the HAF XB evo I was eyeing uses 80mm fans in the lower spot. 92mm would've been great instead. I can't decide if I should bother returning the P400A, but horizontal mobo and never worrying about cpu hsf weight would be good.

[kind apex]

one of those it would be easy if you took the power supply out to get in there it would be fine....

[kind apex]

THATS WHAT I HAVE!!!

haf evo xb

chonky

[left pulsar]

That's funny. yup. Another thought was laying pc over and having lcd sit on it, but that might be awkward or have the display too high. What's your take on the cube case VS a normal mid tower?

[kind apex]

I have 4 of them because A. handles B. horizontal mobo C. they stack!

[left pulsar]

4?!!

[kind apex]

so gravity is no longer an enemy of your mobo everything stays where it should be with no added stresses

[sharp zinc]

I almost bought one of those till i saw it in person and saw how big it actually was

[kind apex]

my wifes pc is in one and my media pc and my pc and the other one is more of a project pc

they are a little big

tons of airflow but also tons of dust 🤷‍♂️

[left pulsar]

Probably equal to my current RC690 give or take. 20" long. the XB is smaller by a few inches?

[kind apex]

however I solved the dust issue by just eliminating dust in my house with 2 giant air purifiers 🧠

It does make my life a lot easier when changing anything except things in the basement of the case

[left pulsar]

17.4 x 13 x 16.7in yep, bigger than I thought (lol). Would've been cool to have 2 of them and temporarily have 2 pc's stacked. Seems easier to make things clean looking in a way, then hide all wires below

[kind apex]

they do stack nice

I dont ever actually leave them stacked though you know the whole heat rising thing the top pc wouldn't have a good time

[left pulsar]

airflow > convection.

[kind apex]

i think the idea was you could have two stacked with one pc spread thoughout with all kinds of room for liquid cooling and rads

I'm kind of surprised they still make it

dont pay more than $99 it always drops to $99 at some point

used to get real dusty

[left pulsar]

oh yeah, for sure. maybe have a 240x240/280x280 radiator or something like that. idk. Think I'll definitely return the P400A though. Good to know, it's $126ish now. Used to? haha. well, it is flat vs a mobo that's sideways so dust doesn't easily sit on it. I've got a good standup air compressor. Ok, gotta run to ups store quick to mail the ram.

[kind apex]

k later thats a 280mm in there

[vestal crystal]

Here is a slightly stupid question, but wanted to make sure. Working on upgrading an existing system. Can I use a case fan hub with fans that are different sizes?
I have the PHAN-002GR case, that has:
Case fans Installed: Front 1x140 millimeter, 2x120 millimeter , rear 1x120 millimeter, top 2x200 millimeter
CPU Cooling: MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB (2x120 millimeter)
Though the motherboard only has 2 case fan slots and 2 cpu fan slots.

[kind apex]

yes that will be fine size doesnt matter

[left pulsar]

if you're just trying to double number fans. If hub is pwm and it's set at like 50%, it just makes all fans connected be at 50% rpm. Size is basically irrelevant. 👍
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EF9OI0O

[kind apex]

I would make sure you plug the pump header into one of those cpu fan slots @vestal crystal

so if pump dies it shuts down pc 😉

[left pulsar]

Imagine they made the side near GPU easily hold 1 or 2 fans. That would let GPU fans spin slower and also help temp for sure. Currently have a bottom intake so my idle is 30c max w/ the gpu fans off . btw I started return for case. I'll watch for when XB evo has a sale. Horizontal mobo means big peace of mind w/ a heavy air cooler.

[kind apex]

good call yeah its worth it but only at $100ish

[left pulsar]

I set a price alert. Most tech drops price once in a while. I'll double check other cube cases but last I saw this was one of the better/cheaper ones.

[kind apex]

from Jan to Jun it was <=106

@left pulsar lets change the threshold to buy if you see it at $106 or less

[summer bear]

Anyone got some suggestions for a flat reservoir that accepts a d5 pump? I know ekwb makes the 240 and 360 but I’d like to find a diff option. I don’t like tube res look. I can fit one smaller at bottom back wall or top vertical back. I can custom make brackets if need be. Needs tube outlets and inlets and pump on same side preferably

[kind apex]

something like this?

[worn kayak]

.

[left pulsar]

Try checking bios find the case fan settings where they mention pwm or something. Try "disabled" instead of auto/normal, at least for the 1 that goes 40%ish

[karmic root]

My gpu is running 60-65C while at 100% usage and is mounted vertically

Is that normal?

[shrewd juniper]

Ye that's decent temps

[karmic root]

It’s also bigger than a 3090 and barley fits in my case

[gloomy garnet]

What's the difference between NH-D15S and NH-D15? Am confused.

[low pumice]

d15s is just single fan and its asymmetrical

easier to see if you just look at the heatpipes on product images

[gloomy garnet]

Ohhhh

I was looking

But didn't realize

[low pumice]

d15s

bruh what

this picture is explicit?

[shrewd juniper]

What did you say?

[low pumice]

I tried to send that image

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

[low pumice]

lets see if it'll embed

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91fiOTtOYCL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

won't embed eh

d15 heatpipes being symmetrical

d15s asymmetrical

its to help with mobos that have socket close to first PCIe slot afaik

yeye

should be nice

[loud kindle]

Make a stink about it on Twitter.

Tag their account and call them out for it.

It's still a crummy business practice.

Corsair made me buy them for $2.99

But they've been incredible on other issues so I'm happy with Corsair.

[low pumice]

What's their reason for not sending you a bracket?

Wacky

[bronze cave]

Can someone recommend a case and cooling for me (i9-12900K, MSI EDGE Z690, NVIDIA 3090). I don't need a flashy case. Just something solid with good airflow. Haven't decided on cooling yet but likely 360mm or 420mm. Will be doing flight sim, some music recording, and possibly crypto mining when I am not gaming.

[knotty sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYqBDq

[amber glacier]

If you're getting a 12900k, you'll need the better AIOs. Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 is the best price/perf.

As for the case, Lian Li lancool 2 mesh is good. I also use the Phanteks P500, but the Lancool will be better for your (very hot) GPU

[knotty sparrow]

Or the torrent, which is also great for gpu temps

Thicc fans

[amber glacier]

I think the 420 will fit in all those cases

[knotty sparrow]

It should yeah

Maybe not the lancool

Yeah the lancool only goes up to 360/280mm

[bronze cave]

Cool. I was leaning toward the Iancool or a Meshify. So I guess I need to look at a Meshify for space?

[knotty sparrow]

The meshify 2 should be good too yeah. I got the torrent personally and I'm loving it.

[amber glacier]

Unless you're planning some serious all core loads I'd downsize to a 360 and go for the Lancool

[knotty sparrow]

360 is OOS right now but you could wait for it to come back in stock

[amber glacier]

Oof, didn't see that

[bronze cave]

I would imagine I'd need 420 if I am going to mine?

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-2-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352133?Item=N82E16811352133 << -- this looks good

[knotty sparrow]

No mining only hits the GPU, barely touches the CPU

CPU mining is a thing but... don't do it lol

[bronze cave]

Makes sense

Do I need special cooling for the 3090? This is getting super pricey. Haha.

[amber glacier]

For mining? Likely yes

[knotty sparrow]

It should come with its own shroud and fans, unless it's one of the models meant for integrating into a custom loop

[amber glacier]

Or at least a thermal pad replacement for most models

[knotty sparrow]

Worst case yeah thermal pad replacement

[amber glacier]

I will say that if you're mining, you may want to avoid using the radiator as top exhaust. Almost all of the 300W of heat will pass through the rad as exhaust

And the meshify 2 is good from what I've seen (no personal experience), but I don't think you can mount a 420 as intake

[bronze cave]

Sounds like great advice. But I have no idea what you're saying. Total newbie.

[knotty sparrow]

Wait I got it flipped

Saw a bad diagram, front does up to 360mm top does 420mm

[amber glacier]

So when you mine, your GPU uses power. All of that power has to be cooled off of the GPU and dissipated. The GPU cooler will remove the heat from the GPU core and memory, and that heat will be exhausted from the card.

That hot air then travels through your case and then exhausted out of your case

[bronze cave]

So what you guys are saying is don't use the 420 as top exhaust anyway, right? So that case still works?

[knotty sparrow]

It'll work yes. Whether you get the 420mm that's in stock now and use that on top or wait a bit for the 360mm and use that front.

[bronze cave]

(BTW guys --- I REALLY appreciate the help)

[amber glacier]

Implying I have anything better to do :p

[bronze cave]

lol

No worries. I have more questions to keep you busy.

[bronze cave]

eraser1 suggested not top mounting the 420. Not sure why. @amber glacier ?

[knotty sparrow]

It won't be able to cool the CPU as efficiently when the GPU is under heavy load like mining or gaming. But then front mounting does the opposite, favoring the CPU. In the end it doesn't matter that much.

[left pulsar]

Well 420 wouldn't fit front mount in hardly any cases, so there's that. Rear case fan should help the "hotness" before it impacts a top mounted rad, imo

[knotty sparrow]

A 420mm radiator, even one getting warm air, will more than handle a CPU when gaming.

[amber glacier]

CPU generally doesn't produce as much heat, and the radiator is better at dissipating it, so unless you're running heavy CPU loads, your GPU won't see much of a difference

[bronze cave]

Cool. So I'm not forced to suboptimize anything by going with the Meshify 2

[amber glacier]

I saw big changes on my CPU temps, however, when changing the orientation

But in the end, it'll work either way. Just different options for optimization

The ideal solution is to go full custom, but that will be an extra $500 and some effort :p

[knotty sparrow]

That's one of the reasons I like the Torrent. There's no top exhaust at all, which forces the air to exhaust out the back. The massive front fans feed the CPU and the bottom fans feed the GPU.

[amber glacier]

Hmm, I'll have to look at the torrent

[knotty sparrow]

Well, there's a top exhaust but it's through the PSU

[amber glacier]

Although I'm probably just going to do full custom with my next daily, and use whatever case is best for full custom

My P500A is... Less than ideal for custom

[bronze cave]

Which is the torrent?

[knotty sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BjqPxr/fractal-design-torrent-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-tor1a-01

There's several options for the side panel, from solid metal to tinted glass

[amber glacier]

That must be new, I 100% would have picked that for my build in March

[knotty sparrow]

It's fairly new yeah

GN reviewed it in August and called it the best of 2021

[low pumice]

Do note torrent is really built to be airflow focused, not great for AIOs

No top mount iirc and bottom mount is not good for AIOs

[knotty sparrow]

True, it'll take a little moving fans around

But those thicc dual 180mm fans work just as well on the bottom

I'll be doing a custom loop in this eventually

[low pumice]

I don't think front had holes for 3x120 360mm rad, and finding 2x180 360mm aio is going to be near impossible

(aka, if you want aio, prob don't go torrent)

[knotty sparrow]

It does, there's a bracket

[low pumice]

Custom loop, should be real fun

[bronze cave]

So for my application -- Torrent or Meshify 2?

[low pumice]

If there's a bracket, might be a lil wonky, but works

[knotty sparrow]

Probably meshify 2 if you want to use the 420mm liquid freezer

You'd have to move the front fans to the bottom and one of the bottom fans to the rear in order to use an AIO with the torrent, can be tricky.

[low pumice]

P500a or 5000d airflow not options?

[knotty sparrow]

They fit 420mm also yeah, take a look

[bronze cave]

p500a could work

I like the meshify 2 better all things equal

[left pulsar]

I like that Torrent for gpu temps but dang $200. Psu up top needs a comeback

[bronze cave]

Only $30 diff ($189 vs $159 for Meshify 2)

[amber glacier]

I don't think you can go wrong either way. I use the P500 on my daily and I can't complain (unless you're trying to custom loop).

I made a build for my dad in the Lancool 2 Mesh. It has great performance, build was good, but it was a bit rough around the edges for me. Nothing egregious though, and I would do a build in that again.

Torrent looks really nice, I'd like to try it sometime

And the meshify 2 was my alternative option from the P500

[bronze cave]

I think I like the look of the Meshify 2 better

I read something about mounting the GPU vertically vs horizontally? Is that possible? Thoughts on that?

[amber glacier]

That's just for looks. Not worth it IMO

[bronze cave]

So the Torrent comes with 5 fans and the Meshify 2 comes with 3 fans? Maybe Torrent is the way to go. $30 extra for 2 extra fans.

[bronze cave]

Thanks

[knotty sparrow]

Your AIO will come with 3 fans too

[amber glacier]

Lancool 2 mesh has a bracket that allows you to convert it easily. It's not possible on the P500 without... Modifications

[low pumice]

Was under the impression p500a had a GPU vert mount bracket

I know vintage had a vert mounted 3080 in p500a

Well, phanteks makes one, not sure if p500a comes with it or you will need to buy it separately

[amber glacier]

I wouldn't worry about fans too much. Buy a 5 pack of Arctic P12 PWM PST for $30 and you're good

[amber glacier]

So the problem is that there are PCIE separator slots (not sure what to call them) that just block your GPU ports if you try to plug in a cable

It mounts fine and cools fine, but I had to bend the slots to plug in my HDMI and display port cables

Unless there's a way to remove those strips easily, and I'm just rarted

[low pumice]

Maybe your bracket just had a manufacturing defect

[bronze cave]

I flip flopped to the Torrent. Just checking to make sure my 3090 and my EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G6 will fit

[amber glacier]

Oh, you're talking about the mounts that are available by default on the case. Yes, those work fine. However it is way too close to the side, and airflow becomes very limited

I saw temps go up a couple degrees when I djd that

[low pumice]

How big of a card do you have?

[amber glacier]

Then I got a bracket to mount it in the normal PCIE slots, which is where I had to bend it

[amber glacier]

It was a 3080 strix

So I think it'd be fine with a 2 slot

But 3+ becomes sketchy

[low pumice]

Yea, vintage's pic with a 3080 xc iirc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/855598284143460362/20210113_104605.jpg

[bronze cave]

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[amber glacier]

Yeah that's XC3

I wouldn't run a mining 3090 like that. If it was just gaming, maybe. But that VRAM is gonna get real toasty if you mount a 3090 like that