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The bottom rad will be taking in fresh cold air
Alright
Aio liquid is probably clear or just not very pretty. Plus, a rad is a lot different than the special parts that have big passages for the colored fluid to go around.
it is clear yeah no point putting colouring in
It would be fine
They don't want you to see how much gunk precipitates in those disposable coolers 🧯
Wdym?
Mostly joking - but I'm sure all kinds of stuff ends up dissolving into the coolant turning it gunky. The black tubing is probably cheapest and has the lowest liquid permeation since most aren't meant to be refilled.
Ahh yeah that makes sense
send a suggestion to tech youtubers: long term AIO testing
Huh
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086WNPXVP?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 anyone know a better part on new egg
Anyone awake that could help me?
aw heck I have an ML280 mirror should I be worried?
Nah it's a pretty low chance. ML units are about below average but not the worst.
I've had a ML240L for a few years now and besides the pump being the loudest thing in my system after I replaced the rattling fans, it's OK.
i see yeah i was gonna go stock cooler but the ml was on pretty good sale on NE
The 280 is probably fine for most processors too, until you get into higher overclocking
i had someone tell me earlier they use a hyper 212 on a 5600x at a 1.35v oc and dont see over 70c lmfao
It's only a 65W processor so not surprising
Doubt. Hyper 212 was good for plain quad cores
Temp is highly related to actual wattage and/or voltage though, commonly.
Probably mean h212 black not the regular one
At 1.35v I doubt the 5600X breaks 90W
nah it was the regular, he showed a picture
Especially looking at gaming loads
it was doing multi core loads, he wouldnt say what but someone else pointed out 70c is possible in single core tasks
he said "no, multi core loads"
Yeah, i mean they shouldn't be manually ocing ryzen 5000 for single core instead of pbo but anyway
they also used ryzen master
Eww
If he's setting 1.35v in RM it's probably closer to 1.27-1.3v under load
he said he messed up something
so his monitor doesnt display anything outside of windows
so he cant use bios at all
is anyone here familiar with the corsair icue software? trying to figure out why the thermal sensor for the CPU keeps hopping up like 15 degrees then falling back down to idle temp for a split second then jumping again. HWinfo does the same thing, but the BIOS reads a steady temperature. I have my DIMMS set to change colors at certain temps based on package temps.
It's because when you're in the os, it's not a constant idle load, especially with icue running using resources. When you're in bios, it's a constant load.
Got some lian Li sl120 uni fans today 👌
DAmn those are nice and spendy. at least the controller is actually pretty cheap in the 3fan pack. 🤘
are they noisy? i tried searching it up and get mixed reviews
nah
they're silent
but expensive
just get arctic p12
if you want white and rgb
the p12 does have such version too
hm, it's not out in the us yet, but already available in german site
Might be on Amazon or something but might not show up on pcpp for a bit btw
Ahh
Not sure sure yet but yeah a little expensive but your paying for the technology that comes with them so defo worth it just need to install them
yeah it's the less wires that make me want to get it for a cleaner install. cause you can daisy chain them into one controller. please update once you got them installed
sl120s are good just expensive
how important is saving money to you and why?
You can daisy chain 4 fans into one cable and one controller controls 4 modules of fans if you get me, was 50 quid for 3 fans and a controller
some people likes maximizing their value, like me
also almost all the time, there's good value stuff that looks good too
Wdym?
That's nice for sure. Want to know about noise. That's where the mixed reviews come in. One guy from reddit was claiming he can't hear it at max RPM which I highly doubt.
ill let you know mate probably installing them after christmas as hoping to get more stuff for the pc then
I usually always to for the best bang for the buck if possible if that's what you mean
one of the cases you recommended me the 5000d airflow but then said it's not worth it over the 4000d airflow. just having trouble finding the right case, thought the 5000d was gonna be it
I'd agree the 5000d isn't usually worth it
I'm running a I7-10700kf overclocked to 4.7 (Dragon Center extreme performance profile) and I am seeing temps on the CPU hitting 90 with a 120 AIO so I am looking to upgrade to a bigger AIO, what are some recommendations for which model/brand to look at? My case can support up to a 360 if I put it in front or a 240 would go up top without issue.
If you're looking for a large case I'd recommend p500a instead, 10$ cheaper comes with 3 rgb fans in the front and 1 in the back stock, with the 5000d it's 10$ more then you need to spend more money on fans
Arctic liquid freezer/lian li Galahad/ek rgb 240mm will do but 280/360mm is nice
120mm tend to be worse than a decent heatsink, and I second what pato said
Anyone know how good the EVGA AIOs are? Might be able to buy one on the cheep and wondering if it would be worth
And is it worth replacing my Scythe Fuma II with
They're great
I suggest at least 240mm version tho
But tbh I don't see the need of it over fuma 2
My biggest case for the switch is just ease of maintenance. Right now I need to take the cooler out to get to my GPU. Just kinda a pain lol
Hm, fair
And it is a 240 for $50. 30 under msrp
That's great
@shrewd juniper Thanks!
Decent, good buy if more than like cheaper 15$ cheaper than the ones i mentioned just above
Depends what cpu you have it on
what can I do to cool it asap
Turn off pc
Turn it off, i would make sure your cpu cooler is mounted properly
Also don't use nzxt cam, I'd double check with hwinfo 64 first
alright
right now i don't have thermal paste, can i use toothpaste instead?
just removed the cooler
Technically but it's not a good idea
got a 5800x in it running in ECO mode. I rarely push it hard though except when ripping/processing DVDs for my server.
just spit on it lol
Would be worth it then, idk what eco mode is, i assume it just keeps your cpu at base clock or something
But you'd get a nice perf leap turning that off and turning on pbo
Yeah prevents "super all the time overdrive boost". I don't really need the extra beef currently as most of what I use the computer for is already running seamless
Figured I would run the CPU cooler for now, potentially extend the longevity of it, then turn ECO off down the road when I start seeing bottlenecking
The temps on the 5800x without eco even at idle are a little concerning. Everything mounted fine, doing nothing and was still sitting at ~60c. Saw that that was expected for this chip, but still
60c is high for idle unless you're room temp is like 30c or more lol, possibly a bad mount of the cooler
I've remounted and checked a few times now and outside of the first time I remounted nothing changes.
That first go about I was worried about the CPU because of how tight the Fuma's springs are, but found that I could bottom out on the next remount
Good on paste now with a pre-spread of Thermal Grizz, bottomed out on springs
You could always check your fan curve and make it more aggressive
Hmm might need to check that next. Haven't tampered with that yet
Im actually kinda curious about where my temps are today. Room temp is much more frigid than usual.
I also have a 5800x. It goes to 90C on stock settings and I don't like how my fans sound like an airplane. I just lower ppt tdc and edc a little bit so it doesn't impact too much performance. I can now set my fans at a much slower rpm and get max 70C when loading battlefield and around 60-67C when actually playing. Idle is around 30-40C
What cooler do you have on it?
Nzxt x73
I had an arctic liquid freezer 240 on it before changing case. And was the same. Only diff now is i can lower my fan rpm cause i have more than before with my nzxt h510 case
Having a 5800x in a h510 with an aio hurts my soul
H510 actually gets worse when you add fans
Yeah. A friend fave me his 011D cause he went and got himself the mini version. So now I have more fans than runs slower to make it quiet and still get the same if not lower temps. But even with maxed out fans this 5800x just runs hot without tweaking settings.
is the msi mag 360r any good
It's meh and overpriced
Get an arctic liquid freezer ii/lian li Galahad/ek rgb aio
liquid freezer ii white when
When you buy some spray paint
Reason: Bad word usage
ok so
my pc has a rattling noise coming from it
no fan has a cable in the way of it, it isnt the gpu fans
the fans werent spinning and the noise was still happening
i stopped 3 of my case fans and it persisted
i think its either the psu fan or one of the stock fans
any ideas?
i fixed it
nvm its back again
im fairly sure its the psu still
sorry for the ping @shrewd juniper , but do you have any ideas of what it could be?
it just stopped again
but im sure itll start again soon enough
can you send a vid so i can hear?
yeah one sec
Hopefully that picked it up
It's definitely the psu
doesnt sound like it did
it sounds like the fan is going up and down a bit almost
if that makes any sense
or maybe its hitting smthn
uhh i cant tell tbh sorry
its def the psu
i can tell that much
i just have no clue what could be causing it
nothing else is in the way
its smthn in the psu or the fan is loose
arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm overkill for a 12600k?
Honestly I'm thinking of doing it and overclocking the hecc out of it
rn I just have it locked to the turbo clock speed (4.9) on 1.255 volts and it's saturating by dark rock 4 to the point of 94 degrees under cinebench
$160 is quite a lot for a cooler though tbh
Dark rock 4 or pro 4?
Also it's 130 https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/bVMTwP
At ARCTIC, we are proud of our completely new all-in-one CPU water cooler series. For the Liquid Freezer II Series, we have used our experience in CPU water cooling to develop a completely new compact water cooling pump. The new pump of the Liquid Freezer II Series ensures an ideal ratio of high ...
Normal dark rock 4
Never thought I'd need anything more since it could cool a 9900ks
Oooo it's on sale! Keep in mind you have to buy that $10 mounting kit too
Ahh yeah the regular isn't nearly as good as the pro
Really? That thing was so hard to cool
Well tbf my threshold for that is 95°C or underfor p95 at 24/7 turbo. Basically no throttling. Friend runs his 9900ks at 92C p95, 85c cinebench
He was the reason I bought this cooler originally. Never imagined an i5 would push it to about the same point as an i9
Also apparently my case supports 3 140mm fans in front but only a 360mm aio?
Oh NVM it's 2x140 or 3x 120 lol
So I'd need a 360mm...
Would that be enough to overclock a 12600k? Freezer ii 360mm?
Yeah
Alright
My cooler is fine for 4.9ghz but like
Some people c are getting their 12600k's to 5.2 and it makes me jealous
Tbh you probably won't notice but go for it i guess
this guy is telling me that copper cpu coolers need their own thermal paste and I don't believe him who's wrong
Average thermal paste is fine
ok
If anything, copper is most compatible.
Any paste but liquid metal works on any cooler/cpu
Galvanic corrosion is something common more with liquid cooling like if rad was aluminium and cpu block was steel (basic example relating to automotive)
i need help finding a name/ a list of products, what/where can i find fan blocks. i only have one more fan slot on my mother board open and i am looking for a block of fans and i only saw one so far. perferably 360mm
can I use just any z690 mounting bracket on any CPU cooler?
No
Is the "be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4" a good cooler?
Yep, depending on CPU and/or OC. Good for i5 and most i7's. thermalrights 120mm peerless assassin or certain 140mm hsf are often recommended also.
My cpu's temperature is around 80°c (stock cooler) and used it for a year now, will the drp4 help?
Or is the cpu already "damaged" because of the constant high temperature
Any decent tower hsf literally blows away most stock coolers.
What is hsf?
Heatsinkfan
Oh
Also 80C isnt too crazy overall. At least intel I think 95 or 105C is when they start having issues. I mean it's hot, but probably no damage at all
90 momentary it's probably fine. I bet it's the sort of push on mount that allows that. Tower heatsinks have a backplate behind mobo and bolts/screws to hold the cooler on good.
Coolers work for most cpus, just double check their list.
is 2 360mm radiators good enough for anything?
Should be plenty yeah
mk, i think i want to do an 011 evo custom loop with chimney config 360 on top and bottom. possibly inverted for left side of desk.
I feel side and top would be better choice in that case personally
Assuming you can with no clashes
Gpu would sort of mess w/ bottom to top airflow? That's my thinking also
30 series water block is pretty small though especially in vertical mount?
Ah, perhaps. I didn't hear vert mount. It's funny a single rear intake is still so common (stock)
Yeah, people have said a 280mm aio fits up top depending on ram height. I might get one in the future for mine
I went ahead and jumped the gun. Got 9 of them. Quiet and better temps already.
Very nice mate what's your system spec?
R7 5800X under NZXT X73 which is now cooled by the SL120s.
EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra
32GB TridentZ Neo
SN850
MSI B550 Gaming Carbon.
It gets hot 😂
Very nice set up though
Testing my AIO. Been running a stress on my CPU for about 10 minutes now. All cores at 100%. temp settled at 63c, rad fans are at 72%. Very happy.
also, im in South Africa. ambient temp is about 25c
Also, also. X570 mobo. Chipset fan is at 0. Never seen it spin up.
What you using to stress?
CPU Z
I'd recommend occt small or p95 small/smallest
ok. let me try
10 minutes of small p95
That seems bit too low
So im wondering where to plug the AIO pump in to an asus tuf x570-plus board, should I plug it into the ADD_gen 2 5V?
There should be a pump header
It says AIO pump but has 4 pins and the pump cable has 2 and then one that doesn’t have a pin slot and then 1
I never used P95 before.
thats an RGB connector, not a pump connector
thats for lights
there should be a second cable
That is an rgb cable
Off the pump?
There’s one cable off the pump and one of the radiator
ID cooling zoomflow ARGB
please hold
Also where does the rgb connector go
Is that the ADD-gen 2 5V?
hold on, let me check you mobo manual
Ty it’s very much appreciated
no.8, yes you are correct, ADD_GEN2
K so where is the pump plug on the AIO?
checking the manual for your aio
Tysm
There’s only 1
well, that means you got a broken pump, and should get it replaced
Reason: Bad word usage
Was it a cable I had to plug In or came plugged in
see the image above? looks like it comes directly from the pump
That pump doesn’t look like mine tho
ok, post pics of yours
did it come with a manual?
Ye
It sucks tho
And I looked up pics of others and they also only have 1 cable and one off the radiator
It also has one cable off the radiator
send pic of that?
thats a pump connector. you say thats directly off the rad?
Yeah
see if you can trace it and see if it goes into one of the water pipe sleeves?
ok, so thats cool. connect that to the CPU_OPT header on your motherboard
K tysm
no worries. you should have a y splitter cable that you will connect to the 2 fans, and the other end goes into the CPU_FAN header
K
anyone recommend me a good cpu liquid cooler for i7-11700F
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But I'd really get a 10700 over 11700. The 11700 is equal or worse in most tasks.
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Eh, that's fine then. Prebuilt you don't really get the choice usually.
ill upgrade later
There's not much to upgrade to without a motherboard upgrade
Which you'll want to do eventually anyway
Yeah those stock coolers are usually anything but cool.
My recommendation still stands for the liquid freezer 240mm
aren't that lga1700?
It still comes with the older bracket for 11xx and 1200
Corsair H100 RGB 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler, 2 x 120mm Fan, RGB Black | CS-CW-9060053-WW
DeepCool CASTLE 240EX A-RGB AIO liquid CPU Cooler — BLACK
what about those
das bad
H100 will work but it's not as good. At least the 11700f doesn't get quite as hot as 11700k but it's still a high power chip.
i can buy thses locally thats the only cpu cooler they have
If you get a different cooler get a 360mm then. It should fit your case.
Thank you
Is this enough space for 360m tho
Im thinking of putting the fans above the cpu
Thats the only space i have
It'll fit on the front, and if you go 240mm it would need to be a good model. The H100 would technically get the job done but it would still get pretty warm.
Had my 5600X up to 94.6 Celsius today
It usually runs at 83-85 Celsius, I was just stress testing
I am gonna get a P500A and a few more fans and all that jazz lol
Glass panel is a good guess for why it's hot
Go all out and get the fractal torrent just because
Dual 180 fans on front and triple 140 on bottom
Much of that cost can be attributed to it having all the fans you need and they're good fans
So, my original plan was the P500A plus 3 top fans and a controller for like 220, and I really like the RGB it had
I just wanna keep my stuff cool instead of running it from a pre built case
Damn
5 stars
Well the torrent with rgb is only $230 and you don't need to buy more fans. Even the hub is good.
Pretty impressive
It's earned those 5 stars. Have you seen the gamers Nexus review? It's basically at the top of the charts and did everything right
I have not
They had an issue with the original hub, like nzxt did. Their response was to immediately recall every unit, even ones on shelves, and fix the issue before selling them again.
i just like the RGB the P500A has lol
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Yeah I’m watching it now lol
Wish more people would get this. Instead, some say mesh is just ugly.
😅
okay
so, it was impressive, but there were things i liked about the P500a a bit better, dual system capacity, more room for HDDs and all that, and, gosh, lost my thougyht
oh, the airflow in the Fractal was weird
and spensive
idk, i just dont feel as comfortable with the fractal, its so diffrent
I mostly suggested it as a joke but it is honestly a good case. You can like whatever you like.
I'm getting one myself, and I'll be custom looping my 5800X and 3080ti with dual 180 rad in the front and 360 rad on the bottom. Should be a fun project.
Respectable. Not much need for a massive "air goes woooosh" case with that.
ye
my original setup was a FX6300 with a GT710 i got pretty ripped off on lol
i also need to get an SSD as im still running a 1tb hard drive lol
Alright so I figure I’d ask this in cooling as it’s an issue I believe with my CPU cooler, it’s like making odd noises while it’s running, it sounds like it’s loping but I’m not sure, I can try and send a video to see if anyone can debunk it
It stops after a while but when it’s warming up and stuff I’m not sure why it’s doing it, something with the bearings maybe?
Could be coil whine
^
I looked into it and it’s nothing to really be concerned about, it’s pretty normal
going entirely for looks with this one, but if i got a 5800x would it make sense to go from an a500 to a freezer 3 360
yes
and will the a500 work on a 3770k
As long as you have the bracket for that cpu
You rang? ^^^^
you cannot run 2 cpus
I have a artic freezer 2 360mm argb cooler and I can’t seem to figure out where the 3 pin connectors go… do I need a controller for them?
He said 5800X with a 3770X
I doubt he’s running a dual system
Oh it is a cpu
AMD ducked their whole lineup up with the naming
Fucked*
That would be the rgb connectors
You'll connect them to your motherboard
header on mobo will probably literally be a_rgb or something similar
@shrewd juniper I can’t bc my motherboard only has 4 pin for those
@left pulsar
3 pin can go on 4 pin as long as stuff is technically compatible. even a 4 pin fan can sometimes go on a 3 pin header and just use the pwm function
oh shucks. Thought it'll go here. that's weird, not what I had in mind. @tranquil ingot
Yeah I have no idea what to do lol
Bc there are two cords running off the pump one I put to the cpu fan correctly and the other was that one
So idk if that’s the rgb or what
1 went to where I circled? If there's an actual manual or something I'd check. Bummer some of these aio's might have weird cables and mobos have various headers because rgb or pump isn't as common or it's just newer than a normal 3-4 pin fan header. 
Nah 1 is 4 pin for the fan on my pump and the other is an unlabled 3 pin connector that has only an arrow on it...
Also if it was going anywhere it would go to the aio pump above cha_fan1 no?
I dont see cha fan 1 lol, but anyways.... EDITing is this where that weird 3 pin* plug goes perhaps? idk, because we gotta make sure they do the same voltage. (12v header, 12v device or w/e) -------edited
nvrmd I found cha fan 1 lol, and aio pump above it. Ok so at least the pump should be going. Perhaps ADD_header means additional header, but I'm not familiar with it.
That header is for led strips
argb and 4 pin pwm are different
5v and 12v
If you put 3 pin argb into pwm header
You'll fry the damn thing
hello cooler masters I have question
so I recently bought a gpu backplate (Already installed) but I forgot more or less what my GPU temp was prior to installing. Right now my 3080 is sitting at 40 degrees C with little to no programs running. Is this what people get more or less?
Foxy they were dealing w/ this stupid plug 
looks mormal
that indeed looks like argb plug
argb is somewhat different than rgb? This was their mobo EDIT. you can scroll up at look at other headers if you'd like. I'm at a loss though
So do I need a controller for it ?
yeah
Dang
yep
Any recommendations?
mb for not just saying that, I got confused by figuring out the mobo schematic
wait which exact aio do you have?
Artic freezer 2 360
argb or nah
Yes
Oh yeah rgb is literally just the general color changing crap, while A-rgb is newer and I forget what it stands for.
I did not know that
lemme find one
argb is more customizable
like you can make a rainbow and such
So there is 2 of those connectors total for my 4 fans. One on the pump and 1 for the fans on the radiator
wait in this case
If I have the sata for the radiator plugged in and the cpu fan connector plugged in will it work? Just wanna make sure everything else is good
rgb to argb adapter is a need
Wym ?
cause your mobo has no argb header
Ik…
but it has 4 pin rgb
Reason: Bad word usage
I’m about to throw this out and go buy a non argb one lol
It's just the aRGB header that you don't have hooked up?
Yes
yeah
The cooler will work without that
Alr that what I tried to ask earlier
Lemme check something
Tysm
It’s just weird to me that it’s 1 sata and a 4 pin to run it…
I think you should have the connector for it
Wym?
that board doesn't look like it has argb header
dang I thought I did mention that part earlier, pump/fan totally separate from rgb/argb
Ye
I didn’t really have a choice bc it was a Christmas present. I actually asked for the standard but my parents thought it would be cool so they spent a little bit more on it
sata for power, the 4 pin for controlling/adjusting pump speed perhaps .
yep
Yeah, the fans connect to each other through 4 pins then run out one sata
Reason: Bad word usage
Mhm
That is very weird
Also any1 know how I would go about connecting a 3.0 to 3.1 on this board?
O?
Yup
That’s for led tho
I used it for led strips in old case
Is that the same thing?
argb is LEDs
O lol
Reason: Bad word usage
Wait

I'm looking
Alr if this works you are a champ
You should have two connectors that'll go to your motherboard
we gotta see the rig after all this lol
The one on the top is for fan control, the one on the bottom is for rgb
It’s a 3060 ti with a 9700k and I hope it pops off
@brisk rain I got that
I bought my board back in 2018 so I thought when u said argb is new I had no hope lol
Nice
argb is recent, but not that new
The top connector in the picture will go to connector three in your diagram, the bottom one will go to connector nine
Yeah I built my rig back in 2018 Black Friday, but I have the 4 pin in the cpu fan, sata in sata, and argb on fan plugged into the led, and the last 3 pin is left hanging loose unfortunately for the meantime
Yeah I got that tysm
I never had rgb fans so I never done this b4
Wait so those fans on my radiator are all set from that one sata right? Bc they just go straight to power supply
They are powered from the sata connector but controlled over the four pin fan header
The 4 pin is on the pump over the cpu tho
model? I want to look up exactly how many cables this stinker has
Model of cooler?
yup
Artic freezer 2 argb 360
Then yeah I’m all set ig
I’m just so sad bc the radiator had to run tubing from the top instead of the bottem
Which of the fan connectors are you hooked up to?
Stupid bubbles gunna slap me
No biggie
Cpu_Fan
It'll make some noise for the first few minutes and then settle down
good
Ye I just gotta setup the rest of the fans now…. 3 more normal rgb fans gunna run cords everywhere
lol, have fun
I enjoy doing this, just when I have the right stuff lol
Yeah I upgraded from a nzxt h510, Corsair h60 aio, to a planteks p400a and artic freezer 2 and when I built this pc first I had help from a bud so it’s still somewhat new to me
Now the next problem I must solve is where do I put my hdd when I removed the hdd tray for the triple fan aio lol
Wish me gl 😂
tape
Right on. Good case choice. I checked and there was a quite a few cables. Oh, also this lol. We're all set though now!
@tranquil ingot Does the p400a have the option to slide the drive cage closer to the PSU? I know that some cases can do that, forget if this is one of them
It won’t be able to slide, I have a non modular psu lol
Back when modular were like 250 bucks for a 750 watt
Dang
Oh, no 5.25" bay huh. we need better ways to randomly mount a normal HDD in various spots lol.
5.25" is mostly phased out. Phanteks has a 3.5" bracket that you can add in, not sure if it'd interfere with the rad though
Don't pay mind to my RC 690. I removed the whole lower hdd cage but left the 5.25" bays w/ a 120mm in front right below dvd drive and the shown adapters holding various drives. 😅
That's nothing, I made a 5.25" to 3.5" adapter out of an old CD drive using a hacksaw, drill press, and rubber vibration isolation grommets
Where do I put my third fan and also where do I connect my rgb for the fans?
You can hook a fan up to the pump header in the bottom right
RGB should be header 4, you might need a splitter to get all three hooked up
It’s a 3 connector do I put it on the last 3? @brisk rain
Oh, I don't know then
huh? a normal fan header should support 3 fans, yes.
I need to put 3 fans on and I have 3 4 pin connectors
I do but it does not work
@brisk rain this is the connector….
Yup
Good enough for now thanks to all the lads who helped me out
Sitting at 24c idle from 34 idle before the aio change
Yay
I used the old nzxt fan controller for the 3 fans bc i only had 2 headers
So im all set now
Just need to get an upgraded controller for the argb sometime in the future
The aio tubing is up against my glass front pannel is that any worries as a last question ?
It has a mesh around it so its not in direct contant to it
BRO UNDER HEAVY LOAD THE CPU ONLY HITS LIKE 45-55 WOW
Yeah considering mine under max b4 was 65-70 lol
That , is, awesome. Basically eliminating normal thermal throttling is not a bad thing, and not letting parts hit 80+ helps their total life, in my opinion.
Although, is the airflow supposed to be rear/top going towards front? The rear and top fans definitely are flowing inward it appears.
no doubt it is better than many other setups. GPU is getting a good stream from the front fans also.
Someone did already answer my question before, but it was not as clear as I wanted: I have been using my cpu since over than a year and half now and it was till today constantly more than/on 90 C. Did the high temperatures for a long period damage the performance of the CPU?/Will a new and robust cooler help? I will buy the Dark Rock Pro 4, is it a good cpu for overclocking?
double posted ^
Yeah I am hitting max for 50 c with cpu and 68 c with gpu. Ik my fan setup is not ideal but the fan config in my opinion should blow out from where the radiator is because I don’t want hot air being blow at my power supply
All I need is a argb controller to power 6 rgb fans lol
68c, deffo no point changing a thing. Decent airflow is the main thing & plenty of positive pressure like you seem to have will just force air out anywhere it can go. 🤘 I'm also surprised for me how well a simple 2intake 1 exhaust works, plus bottom intake for gpu.
My 5600X is hitting like 85 playing Fallout 4, gonna be getting a new case and fans for Christmas, maybe an SSD too, would you recommend a better CPU cooler too?
What is on it currently
It’s a bone stock AMD cooler
Can’t remember the model 😂
No RGB, but it’s kinda a big boi
I’m interested in seeing how the thermals are affected in the P500A on my unit compared to my current toaster oven with 1 exaust fan
I’m looking at obviously the 3 front fans, 1 rear and 3 top maybe?
Nah just do stock config
Okey doke
You can always add more later if you want
And I don’t think I need an RGB controller then for just the 3 front
I was actually looking at that Noctua N12 S or whatever that really popular ungodly good model is
But in black 👌
You're thinking of the u12a or nhd15
I'd go frost spirit 140 instead
U12s is overpriced and basically same perf as id coolind se 224xt
😍
The U12 has really nice quality stuff tho, I always heard you generally got your moneys worth
Ehh no it's way too expensive it competes with a 30$ cooler for 50$ for the redux, like 60$ or something for the non redux
Isn’t the U12 like 100 bucks?
U12S
U12a is yeah
They have so many damn models
The A, yeah
Ffs sorry lol
Who tf pays 100 bucks for a cpu cooler
True true
Maybe water cooling down the road in a few years. I don’t have the money to put that much in cooling rn lol
It would be nice tho
We have hardwood floors so if anything leaks or spills, you know lol
That’s the main reason my dad is against is lol. He did our floors
Can’t say I blame him tbh
@left pulsar spit it out 😂😂😂
I’ve been watching you type on an off for the past 5 mins 😂😂
Non-hdd boot drive for sure. I prefer plain air also. Even just 2front intake 1 rear exit is plenty w/ a bottom intake for gpu. Can have 3 front intake too. What they said. 224xt something or the frost spirit is what I'd do because Thermalright has always been somewhat top tier. Look at the base on 1 they have
So help me god if I go back to bed and sleep for an hour and come back here and your still typing, lmao. Damn. That’s noice, and how would that attach to the mobo?
Lol, idk that 1 was for lga 775 & stuff but there might be a new mount kit or a newer revision of that heatsink
Prolly
Bunch of their stuff doesn't just say price on their site sometimes, plus they show older & new items
Usually when that happens it’s ungodly expensive but that’s with cars at least lmao
Noctua has good fans, Thermalright had the best heatsinks, some were pretty heavy
. The all copper "true" was hilarious, 4 lbs
So is that dual tower thing a new design? I can’t say I’ve seen a whole lot of that
Aios are extremely whatever the opposite to prone is and the same price as a high end air cooler like the u12a
Maybe down the road, I’m fine with air rn lol
nh12s or w/e been out a few years. Dual tower can cool better usually. Most can hold 3 fans if you wanted
Damn
Uhh no?
What part? I said had, could be has though
I’ve heard some crazy good stuff abo Noctua other than the price and that’s why I was considering them
Uhh well technically all of it 😂
If you want the best reasonable fan(one that's not powerful enough to cut a Banana with it's blades) phanteks t30 is the best 120mm anyway
More reasonable prices lately on some stuff. Hah pato. Noctua I know at least had a rep about their fans, even w/ the colors. Their fans by themselves often $20-25 though
That came from left field ngl
And well heatsinks aren't really tested separately
But thermaltake is kind of an underdog sure
But i wouldn't say they've got any advantage over noctua or be quiets heat sinks
It’s because of what they use in the fans, the plastics and all that
shills cough cough
Reason: Bad word usage
They do have good customer support tho
I’ve heard stuff about airplane testing too lol
Prolly engine fan design
And that, is prolly why they are so expensive, the amount of R and D that goes into the product is redonk
Certain noc fans were shaped more like airplane props for extra airflow/pressure :lul:
Big thing is there seem to be a handful at sub-$65 that are so good we don't have to spend $100 for barely better cooling, regardless of brand.
Makes sense
The $45ish FS140 or something similar is intriguing for such prices.
I’m hoping I can get load temps down below 80 Celsius too, that would be nice
I saw that guy that had load temps of like 45 degrees earlier, Matthew I think, what was he running?
That was bonkers tho
Some good aio, a 360mm I think 
Dang
Funny some are only $130ish on a sale. They really help when OCing quite a ways & upping Vcore
But yeah, load temps below 80 would be great, I guess I should expect 77-79 on the new setup after I commit purchase
Anything lower is a gift from god 😂
80C max doesn't seem crazy to get. Oh, Arctic freezer 2 I think actually it was.
Yeah because right now I’ve had temps of up to 86 Celsius on Fallout, that game is prolly the most intense
Oo
Kewl
86c w/ stock cooler should be 75 max w/ any decent tower hsf. Probably even better, and it'll be quieter. 120/140mm fan at 1100-1400rpm. That's what mine runs but this cpu is only 65w. I'll be sure to post my temps when I finally upgrade in a few weeks.
Yeah. Decent airflow alone willl help. Like the bottom intake makes the gpu use it's 0 fan mode way more often.
Yeah I pulled the glass panel off just to see how it would drop, it got down to 77 under load
Put it back on and physics dictates the temps should go back up, which it did
I may try again here in a few hours after breakfast lol
Not pst I hope, it's really early
Same. Oh "I am being rate limited". 
I'd like the p400 case. Just need a (new) case unless I do mobo on it's box and/or build something
I like the possibility of a dual system on the 500
I did actually look at the 600 which seems appealing because it’s a hybrid case, but I just came back to the 500 because it seemed more airflow focused which I desperately need
Whoever tells you they're getting 45c on a 5800x especially with pbo is living in alaska with no heating in the house or probably calling load like playing Minecraft
😂
No crap. He did say 45-55 so we should say more like 55-60, playing youtube 4k
Load to me is anything like Beamng Drive, FS22 and Fallout 4 for me at least
And American Truck Sim
cough, Crysis, cough
Sounds fun
Crysis is an old pc killer.
Anything that makes my rig sound like a damn furnace lmao
Mainly just needed a gtx 3080 12 yrs before 30 series was a thing
Slight exaggeration, I'd have to lookup some reviews to see what was the 1st gpu to max it out at only 1080p. Maybe the 980 ti. For 60fps i mean
Tbh they value was bad a year or so ago. 970 was worth $150ish. That & the 2.higher ones are still pretty good for a lot of only games at 1080p though.
Yep. Not like we need "max" setttings in everything. I was partly getting ready for 1440p or just 1080p 165 Hz when I upgraded
Oh yeah, when 980 ti is close to a 1070 & 1080 ti matches the 2080 almost
Those 2 ti models were really good. 1080 ti even got 11GB vram. Helps w/ mining probably
Nobody cares about the 90 model, I think the 30 series is the first to have it
I see a lot of 70s and 80s, but the models below that tend to drop a little@quicker and be good for beginners
Not that nobody cares, I guess nobody has 1600 bucks for one lmao
Yep, 50 & below are much weaker but also lower power for more systems. 90 model might've been dual gpu in the past. Can't think of all but single was 8800gtx/9800 gtx then dual gpu was 9800gx2.
90 anything really I don’t see much of, the RX590 and the 3090 lol, rare to see them in systems
I heard the 9800GTX was a freaking monster for it’s day
GTX2 prolly
3080 ti might be newer? 3090 has more vram i thought. 9000 was good. gtx 200 was a big jump. I went 8800 "gts 512" to gtx 260 & had that a few years before 660, then 970 after another couple years.
Around time of 9000 or 200 series was awesome because it was funny how much or little clockspeed or cores changed. 400 & 500 series was alright, 1 was Fermi & ran hot hot. It's neat skipping over 3 or 4 gens.
My pc tech dad had a neat all in wonder ati gpu & a few others, I just happened to only use Nvidia. Got used to the drivers/features & their models work for
I had a GT710 to start out a few years ago, just went to an RX580 last year, that blew me away the difference
Does anyone know if coolermaster aio’s work with the kraken g12?
i went from a gt 1030 i5-3470 to this build
same thing
jesus christ, 3rd gen intel
As long as it uses the Asetek mounting it should, in theory work
was a cheap pre built i bought (sadly) purely to play fortnite after my bar mitzvah
ive heard the 4770K was a chip made by god himself lol
cost 450 for that, keyboard, mouse and a 1050p60hz monitor
the whole pc that is
i didnt know a thing about pcs then
not bad, i paid 415 for my shitebox
90% of that pcs life i turned it off via the power button
because i didnt know it was bad
i didnt know a thing about pcs until late last year
well technichally
that wasnt my first pc
i had a laptop my grandma gave me for hannukah one year
because it was too complicated for her to use
4030u
i should do a shitebox road map lol
2018: purchased ang got ripped off on pc
2020: new RX580 and 600 watt EVGa PSU
nice
2021: New B450 Tomahawk Max, R5 5600X and DDR4
ive spent way too much on this pc
oh yeah me too lmao
went pre built
ive had to replace everything but the gpu, cpu and ssd
and i also trusted a local pc shop about a psu
evga 750bq
payed nearly 3x msrp for it, which i found out later
and now its having issues
i did too and i regret it, but its been really really fun to work on, i enjoy it
i have my old components if you are interested
prolly not but like, i wanna find a good home for them
nah, but thanks for the offer though
ye
i feel like the FX6300 could find a nice home, maybe the PSU aswell
the board and GPU are kinda landlocked in the Bulldozer gen so theres no real room to upgrade stuff. the platform upgrade was 500 bucks ish but it was needed badly
i did see someone do a crazy OC on the FX6300 which gives me hope its still relevant in todays market
That's my 1st FX 5200 skipping to FX 5950 ultra or 6800 GT. Performance between certain cards in the past was a huge difference.
970 is gone but if you all want to see a real difference sometime, I'll bench my 660 :lul: 
will 3080 water blocks work on 3080 tis? will i just have to use more pads for the extra ram?
Depends on the block and what 3080 ti
founders edition. cant seem to find blocks that say theyre for ti
if it says founders editions cards and not card, maybe that implys it
https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/ theres at least 3 if you go here and put in 3080 ti founders
I’magine being able to find or afford a 3080Ti FE
😂
It will prolly hold its value nicely tho, if not go up
so i bought arctic liquid freezer ii 280 and i wanted to know if i could just instal it directly on my mother board that is PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 or if i needed cpu socket adaptor?
You need the lga1700 bracket
ok ok
Just want to make sure, I looked it up and says it is compatible. Does the Arctic esports 34 duo compatible with a ryzen 7 5800x
Will an lga 1151 ihs work with a 10900k?
Technically but dont put that week of a cooler on there, absolute minimum for a 5800x should be frost spirit 140/scythe fuma 2
just tryna find a copper lid to use on my cpu
Copper IHS for Intel 10th Gen CPUs CNC machined to tight tolerances INCLUDES QUICKSILVER ( 1 CPU size ) Includes relid guide Surface area increased by 15% over stock Smooth and flat surfaces for maximum contact with CPU and cooling solutions. Fits 10th Gen i5, i7 & i9 CPUs only. NOTE: The Copper IHS is 100% compati
thx
Mmm, copper
for a i7 12700K what would be a good cpu cooler?
Probably an aio that's at least 240mm, and perhaps 280mm+. Just a quick idea. Arctic freezer , Galahad
^ those brands?
Galahad is a model range made by Lian Li. They're often mentioned. There's other good choices but I'm not sure of.
alright, tysm
Galahad is a Lian Li product
Arctic liquid 360mm or 420mm if you can fit in your case
Ek rgb is also a decent competitor but they only have up to 360
Imma do a 360 mm it does fit
@viral fjord have you seen anything about the id coling se 914 xt? its cheaper than the se 224xt on amazon atm and looks to be chonkier too
I think yammy has used it before so maybe ask him
it's supposed to be higher end and more expensive than the 224, 224 is prob just marked up cause OOS or something
but basically looks like a good option to buy for RGB but if you don't want RGB you might as well get a PA120
the cheap one is 31$ atm and its a basic model but still, se 224xt 32$ atm
just looks like nice budget option atm
ah
well I'd still go pa120 over the non RGB version unless that few bucks really makes or breaks your budget lol
pa120 still looks to be in a completely different class of cooler
ohh def but just for the ppl with like a 10400 who dont need a pa120
yeah that's true
If this one works for someone, it's $25
https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-RGB-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B0874C8RYX
huh showing up as oos for me but maybe they have the page set that way with amazon so if youre not in us you cant view
I guess that's when VPN set to usa comes in handy? idk lol
it also means its excluded from pcpp i gues :(
Interesting.
My 5900x is currently under 2-5% load. The only thing I’m doing right now is watching a football stream and the temps are right around 48-51 degrees. Should I start looking into more fans or a different cooler?
Idle temp is usually just an indicator of room temps, load temps is what you want to care about, anything idle in that range of temps is okay
Ok. I’m still probably going to try two more fans. I have 2 intake and 1 exhaust. There’s really only 1 fan that’s pushing air directly into the CPU cooler area. The other is pushing air into the area under the GPU.
What case you got, what fans where and what cpu cooler?
Corsair 110r. 2 pure wings 2 fans in this setup. 1 exhaust fan that came with the case. I’m using a dark rock 4 cooler.
I had to move one fan down because the GPU is so large. I could just put a fan on the other side of the bracket
@shrewd juniper
Ahh
Not good eh?
Dark rock 4 or dark rock pro 4?
Yeah that wou explain the temps then
The cooler or case?
I could very easily pick up a new 4000D airflow tomorrow
That would give me the extra fans
cooler, the "pro" model I think is new/better.
$40 for any gtx 200 owners lol https://www.performance-pcs.com/air-cooling/video-card-coolers/arctic-cooling-accelero-xtreme-gtx-pro-vga-cooler-nvidia-geforce-gtx-285280275260-accell-x-gtx-pro.html
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Should I pick up a new case and cooler?
The cooler would benefit you more but the case wouldn't be any harm either
If I got a new case it would make getting an AIO cooler possible
All 2 of them
True
Any recommendations for an AIO cooler for a 5900x?
I closed that stream because UM is getting blown out and these are my temps with no windows open
@shrewd juniper
Well 1 i would not use nzxt cam for temp info it can tend to be inaccurate, I'd use hw monitor (will do) or hwinfo64(preferred) instead and 2 ek rgb/lian li Galahad/arctic liquid freezer 280mm/360mm
Right now HWinfo64 is giving me a highest temperature of 40-43 degrees .
Are these temps alright and would still recommend a new case and cooler?
Yeah idle temps are fine, load temps are what really matter tho
Alright I’ll try to find something to load my CPU
Occt or something would be my go to, cpu z will do for a quick test
After I stopped stressing the temps went back down to around 45 in 15-20 seconds
How long did you run it for?
Looks fine
Im wondering how much my new P500A will knock my load temps down when it arrives in about a month
Right now it’s like 82-85 degree highs
Hoping it knocks it down to like, low 70s maybe
Probably. just having a steady solid stream of fresh air helps a lot, GPU likes 1 or 2 intake fans on the bottom.
furmark 4K (non-oc at the time though), max gpu fan was 39%
I have exactly 0 intakes on the bottom
I do have two intakes blowing directly at the cpu and gpu from the side
And one intake right in front of both
Then one exhaust above cpu and on the other side of it
I've got 2 intake 1 exhaust in the normal spots. If I had a side fan it would be exhaust to pull the warm air from the gpu heatsink. Probably unnecessary though.
I’m excited to see how it’s all gonna perform with 3 intake and 1 exaust lol
positive intake better than negative. 3in/2out would probably be great, but no concern. Oh, technically I do have 3in 1 out.
I got a nzxt kraken x63 its saying that its going at 70-80 degrees celsius and when I start a game it jumps up to 109 should I have added my own thermal paste and ive connected everything correctly
Before my current pc i was too afraid for even an AIO but basically said screw it and went with one, its been amazing
Sounds like you have a bad/incorrect mount of the cooler
1 of the bonuses is not having almost 2lbs hanging off the mobo.
lmao
It was, i changed the mount screws and it dropped to 40
that should do it lol
You think I should still add a bit thermal paste
Stock stuff is usually fine. The best aftermarket paste is usually 2-4 degrees better, not really worth it. Liquid metal can be better but harder to use and risky.
Someone suggested something about a graphite thermal pad
nah just use paste
Graphite pads are only good for saving time if you change cpu or cooler frequently. They're not as good as paste.
does anyone have experience with SCYTHE coolers? ive heard Noctua and them both are the 2 best on the market as of rn
scythe looks like its only Intel platforms only, notsure if this is true
scythe seems like a hidden gem lol
Thermalright more so
from what im reading its a lot less expensive than a Noctua N12A or whatever
It loses to u12a though
yeah U12A is what i meant lol
of course throwing in Cummins engine prefixes always helps lmao, N is a 14 liter engine series
but yeah
ill check out Thermaltake too
If you're looking at a u12a I'd just get an aio
my P500A doesnt even arrive till febuary and im waiting till then to see if i need to upgrade the stock cooler
Only thing scythe does is quiet because fans spin slower
nah man u12a does get a12x25's so there are cases where I'd rather get u12a :p
ugh why febuary, does it really take a month and a half to get me a case?
It depends on the case, your location, and the location of the item. High demand stuff (or obscure low demand stuff) might take longer as they have to restock before sending it.
How come?
i couldnt order through Phanteks, i was given a pretty good sized Amazon card for chrismas so im wondering if thats why
You only have 5600x right ? Frost spirit 140 is plenty for that
yup
Lets say long term home server deployment, you want quiet, you want it to sit there for say 5 years without having to do anything
Fair
from what people are saying, the FS140 is overkill which is good to hear lol
is Noctua really the "Gold Standard"?
noctua is so damn expensive tho lol
Well for air cooling
thats what i figured, the D15 is like a cooler made by god or something it appears
Noctua is the Gold Standard, mainly the Standard, it's great, but it's not really competitively priced, and not always best, but when they come out with something, its almost always great, and a standard to compare other products with
yeah, thats what a lot of people have said which is why i immediatly gravitated towards the U12A lol
ive been playing roblox all day long and these are my temps and im just now realizing that i should either get a new cpu cooler or new thermal paste. which one should i get?
62℃ for cool people
Image was in fahrenheit
Anything below full load doesn't really mean much and doesn't usually point to much so I don't see how that's that hot
Fair enough
whats the safest tubing to use for a loop?
How is the 4770K such a famous flagship
It’s like a chip god made himself
It’s going on 9 years old and still kinda relevant
Idk why or how
its not really relevant anymore...
unless you already have one
or you got it for free
would rather 10100 with a cheap 50 dollar board
than go hunting for a quality board to power a 4770k
that hasnt been manufactured in 6 years
Optiplex.
Oh I was just saying where 4770k still relevant
Yea, not worth getting it new or even used on its own
Unless optiplex, in that case then maybe
that are probably end of life cycle and been replaced
oh you mean if someone bought a used optiplex
then yeah, pop in a 4770
Either throwing a 4770 in an optiplex or getting an optiplex with 4770
yeah
I’ve just heard stuff on it like it’s a good chip lol
but an optiplex is pretty cheap tho
can't make 10100 setup without spending more than one
or double
hes not talking about this from a budget perspective
ah
it was a very popular chip tho
hell, i still have friends who use em
well, hes got a 4790k, same difference
Wow
pain
why do people buy this
cause i7
it must mean good
it's the reason first gen i7 machines with gt 710 sells so well on ebay lmao
just say it's gaming and boom
Help the less knowledged out what about that makes you want to avoid it? I'm currently looking at a i9 and want to make sure I ain't getting screwed over
Can I send you a link to the prebuild I'm doing?
11900 is junk, 2 less cores than 10900 (depending on price)
a guy told me it wouldnt bottleneck a 1080 ti at all at 1080p
false, 3gen + non Ti is proof
specs are in name. my CPU runs 50-60C and GPU runs at 60-65C under load
am I good?
very
yes
85c is where you should start to worry on gpu, 90 on cpu, 90 and 95 is where theyll start to throttle
just makin sure my cooling isnt bad lol
alr thanks
My stepdad works for intel and that was like one of the last chips they gave employees for free before they just moved to having an employee store with good discounts i guess
Can I ask questions here lol? My um headphone jack isn’t working and it’s kinda broken my pc isn’t detecting any headphones lol
This is the cooling thread, and fyi some don't like same question in 9 different spots lol
i have a lian li 360 AIO, and 1/4 pins on a cord are gone. will it still work fine if I go ahead and plug it in? if you know, dm me and i’ll send a photo photo
Sounds like your describing the rgb connector does it look like this ?