old-cooling

[autumn iris]

Alright

[marsh badge]

280mm aios should be good for anything basically, as long as it's a good aio

Like liquid freezer ii

[autumn iris]

Yeah im getting the ARGB variant of that

But it doesn’t have a 280mm

[civic valley]

ik that made me sad I wanted the 280 argb, now I gotta front mount a 360 one instead

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah get 280/360 instead if it fits in your budget/case

[autumn iris]

Alright

I’ll get 280

[shrewd juniper]

I mean whats your case?

[autumn iris]

Really dont feel like taking all 3 of my front fans off lol

[shrewd juniper]

You can probs just front mount the 360

Also what cpu?

[autumn iris]

Im getting a i5-12600k

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah I'd deff grab a 280/360

[autumn iris]

Alright

I already have fans in the front i dont want to remove then i can only support a 240mm or 280mm on top

[shrewd juniper]

Moving fans aint that bad but fair enough

[autumn iris]

I have a habit of losing screws too…

Ive lost both my screws that hold in my glass panel

They’re on my desk somewhere but i have no idea where

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhhh

[knotty sparrow]

Magnetic trays are nice for holding screws

[shrewd juniper]

Or even just a plastic chinese container or something

[low pumice]

Magnetic trays keep them nicely in place

Putting screws in containers for me has resulted in many nightmares when accidentally knocking them over and every screw goes everywhere

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah, if using container i just place screws on table because i work on the floor

[autumn iris]

Well i was literally just taking out the screw to adjust a cable that kept getting in the way of my fans…

[subtle flower]

Get an Ifixit kit, the lids have screw dividers. Best purchase I've made in regards to tool kits

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Moray-Driver-Kit/IF145-475?o=1

Would highly suggest this $20 kit, it's what I use. Allows you to open about anything you'd need.

It has a divided grid lid so you can hold screws

[idle tiger]

Great kit for the price

[subtle flower]

It really is

I've been so happy with it. It lets me open up every console and PC case

[amber glacier]

280 is closer to 360 than 240

[topaz blaze]

yea arent 280mm rads usually thicker?

[floral galleon]

Guys help me pls

I can’t control for my uni fans by lian li l-connect software

I can’t change the speed of fans also the lightning

I tried many things

[knotty sparrow]

Define "many things", what have you done?
Check the cables in case one of the motherboard connections came loose.

[floral galleon]

Someone told usb cable is enough

Sata also

But I already plugged Argb cable and fan header

PMW cable”

[knotty sparrow]

Do you have any other software installed that might interfere, such as motherboard software?

[floral galleon]

RGB for aorus motherboard

[knotty sparrow]

The RGB Fusion app? That's known to cause a few issues. Make sure it's not running at all on startup and reboot.

[floral galleon]

The usb cable is enough right?

[knotty sparrow]

It should be yes

[floral galleon]

hmm what about bios settings?

[knotty sparrow]

That won't interfere at all unless your bios has RGB controls

And if you're not using the fan header you don't need to worry about fan curve

[shrewd juniper]

No?

[glacial spindle]

what's issue(s) with vortex in reservoir? Does it matter or people just don't like the slight noise?

[quaint bobcat]

I have a cooler master aio pump and 2 fans

How do I turn on the fans RGB

[quaint bobcat]

Do you know?

[shrewd juniper]

They aren't to my knowledge

[shrewd juniper]

Do you have the rgb header connected?

[quaint bobcat]

Idk I didn’t exactly build it all

I got a buddy to help me

I could’ve figured it out but it would’ve take a lot longer

[shrewd juniper]

Welp i guess go diving for rgb headers in the back of your case, see if you find any loose ones

[quaint bobcat]

I thought t he re was like some app you download to get it on

[shrewd juniper]

Well that only applies if the rgb headers are plugged in

[quaint bobcat]

Well they are I think

Do you know the app?

Sorry didn’t mean the !

[shrewd juniper]

The app depends on your motherboard

You'll find it on your motherboards website, then go to downloads

And it should say something like rgb ish

[quaint bobcat]

That’s all she wrote

[quaint bobcat]

Idk what one

If any

[shrewd juniper]

Believe it's aura sync

[quaint bobcat]

Ok

Thanks mate

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[jade grail]

Guys

I need help

Anyone here ?

[low pumice]

With what

[jade grail]

Fans

Idk where to plug in this fan controller cable

[low pumice]

Take pic

[jade grail]

Is it usb ?

Jusb?

[low pumice]

Looks like USB 2.0 maybe

[low pumice]

What board

And looks to be that

[jade grail]

Msi b550 gaming plus

Because I got it al hooked up I’m just having trouble hooking up that last cable there’s not really good step by step videos on the thermal take pure plus 12

[low pumice]

Prob a good time to check manual for the fan hub then

Tt website doesn't want to load for me

[jade grail]

It makes no sense for fan hub controller to motherboard

Is it these 2 ?

[low pumice]

yea

[jade grail]

Oh ok thanks I’ll hook it up now

[low pumice]

from mobo manual:

[jade grail]

Thanks for the help 😄👍

[low pumice]

:)

[storm topaz]

can someone tell me if the DEEPCOOL Gammaxx 400S is a good cpu cooler? its going for $25 CAD right now, and I want to upgrade my intel stock cooler on my i3 8100.

[knotty sparrow]

Yes it's a good budget cooler

Sufficient for any low to mid range CPU

[shadow plover]

so do I need a liquid cooler for amd ryzen 5 3600 or will it be fine with a regular cooler?

[knotty sparrow]

3600 is fine with a regular cooler. If you're not overclocking even the stock cooler is sufficient.

[timid carbon]

3600 shipped with wraith stealth

Not spire

I wouldnt recommend sticking with stock on 3600

I would go for gammax 400v2 or se 224 xt or vetroo v5

[shadow plover]

cool thanks

[undone geyser]

anyone know if vetroo air cooler have rgb software or no?

[knotty sparrow]

No, it'll just connect to the motherboard and use that software

[shrewd juniper]

Id spend a couple extra bucks for this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kjdrxr/deepcool-gammaxx-400-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx400v2-rd

[little ridge]

hey everyone, I just got the z690i aorus ultra, however the liquid cooler is little too big.. anyone has ever used a zx90i aorus ultra?

[knotty sparrow]

What do you mean by too big? Like it gets blocked by some parts on the board?

[shrewd juniper]

the double posted

[knotty sparrow]

... I really wish people wouldn't do that

[shrewd juniper]

Me too

[little ridge]

Sorry about that, I thought I was in the wrong chat earlier because noone replied

[shrewd juniper]

It's okay lol

[median nacelle]

Hello, I'm doing my first RGB build and going to have about 9 corsair fans in a Lian Li O11 Dynamic. Is an iCue commander pro needed for this many fans? Also anything else that you think I might need?

[shrewd juniper]

I would advise not going corsair for rgb, icue uses a decent amount of system resources you need stupid expensive hubs that are proprietary and the fans are expensive, I'd just get an rgb hub an arctic p12 rgbs personally as they are better and cheaper

[azure crown]

also icue is just an annoying piece of software to deal with

along with razer synapse

avoid installing both on your system, choose components to avoid them accordingly

[low pumice]

Every rgb software kinda sucks

[azure crown]

i havent had too much trouble with the aorus one aside from the crappy interface

[azure crown]

simply get the lian li unifans to go with your lian li case

i say "simply get" sarcastically, because iirc they still hard to get

but totally worth it

[shrewd juniper]

Gigabytes rgb fusion is pretty good yeah

[crimson heart]

What would be a decent price to performance RGB fan? I want to build in something like a Lian Li 011.

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic p12 if they're in stock

[low pumice]

I believe there's a 3pack at a decent price

[knotty sparrow]

There's an argb and rgb variant

[shrewd juniper]

3 pack was scalped for a while

:/

[low pumice]

sad

[shrewd juniper]

But still 15$ per fan

For rgb

Soo

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah, and the non-rgb are usually $6-7 per fan, and worth every penny

[crimson heart]

My son is going to want the lights so I might do 3 on the vertical mounts and maybe black on the bottom.

[shrewd juniper]

Shhh

[civic valley]

is 46C ok for downloading doom eternal on steam and having chrome, discord, and spotify open? on the cpu? 5800x arctic freezer 2 liquid 360mm aio

keepin an eye on my temps ik this runs hot

[sacred wren]

Temps while doing small tasks won't really speak for how it will be under load. If you want to temp test do something cpu intensive

[civic valley]

fair enough, any recommendations for cpu intensive stuff? ik a lot of games are gpu intensive but im not sure about cpu

[sacred wren]

I mean cinebench probably won't show the full under load Temps but it'll give a good idea

Cinebench is a cpu bench marking software

[civic valley]

is that free

found it nvm

[civic valley]

alright it peaked at 74 and stayed 73-74 the whole time, that sounds good to me i think

[sacred wren]

Pretty good

[shrewd juniper]

Idle temps just really your room temperature

[civic valley]

true true

[subtle flower]

Does anyone have a CPU cooler recommendation that comes with more than 1GB of ram? Amazon says this one comes with 1 but idk if that's enough to sufficiently cool anything

[rose isle]

Wait, are you serious?

[covert apex]

Lmao

[radiant fiber]

Hey is a NH-U12S enough to cool a stock 11600k?

Not sure if I should just go all the way to a NH-D15

[marsh badge]

It is but why?

There's literally better coolers

For less or same

Like uh peerless assassin

Noctua U12S is meh

[radiant fiber]

Okay, I’ll look at others. I’m not as familiar with air coolers as I am AIOs so thanks for the help

Yeah the peerless looks fine, a bit shorter too

[marsh badge]

Yeah it's nice

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhhhh, get neither, get a peerless assasin 120

Pa 120 is close to d15 for u12s pricing

[radiant fiber]

👍

[kind apex]

in all fairness the u12s is like 1/3 the size of the PA 120

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but it's a terrible price for what it is

[kind apex]

agreed on price

[shrewd juniper]

If you want something u12s like get like an id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 lol

[low pumice]

U12s redux isn't too horrible

[kind apex]

for its size its decent but as @shrewd juniper said there are cheaper/better options

[low pumice]

Ye, I'm just saying I'd prob pick it over 224xt or vetroo v5

Can't compete with pa120/fs140 but can definitely compete with 224xt or v5

[kind apex]

I would only get the vetroo v5 if I really needed it to be white lol

[shrewd juniper]

50$ tho :/

I mean se 224xt has white

[kind apex]

have to admit the white vetroo v5 looks really good in all white builds

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah it does

[low pumice]

Yes

[radiant fiber]

Yeah I’m not doing a white build, don’t care too much about size assuming it doesn’t exceed max cooler height so peerless looks best

[subtle flower]

Not at all, just joking around from the Amazon page LOL

[tacit tiger]

Question H115i 280mm does it fit in this case…

Cooler Master Cosmos II Ultra Tower

[timid carbon]

Yes

It does

[tacit tiger]

Perfect my new -i9 gonna be happy the

[timid carbon]

Id recommend the arctic freezer 280

Over the H115i 280

@tacit tiger

[tacit tiger]

Too late already ordered

With the retro fit kit

I just hope cupper cover all cpu

SKU CW-9060047-WW
iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler

It seem to be large to fit

[unique lily]

Rawer#4905 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[subtle flower]

Would it be worth buying a freezer ii and replacing the fans with the bequiet ones?

[shrewd juniper]

Why would you replace one of the best fans with not as good onez :p

[subtle flower]

Noise

I'm very against noise

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic p12/p14 fans are super quiet, that's what freezer II comes with

I can't hear my 6x set of p12 at all, even on max

[subtle flower]

ah alright

[tulip matrix]

Just wondering if i should go through this to loop my gpu so i dont have to deal with an enemy AC-130 in my bedroom/office

[knotty sparrow]

EKWB are pretty expensive usually compared to others. Check alphacool blocks too.

[tulip matrix]

Ill try i just trust EK with gpu blocks mainly

[fluid lichen]

p95 small ffts is the biggest thermal load you can apply to a pc

[shrewd juniper]

there's plenty of alphacool stuff etc that are better ek just market more

[severe hazel]

Lian li fans better than Corsair?

[knotty sparrow]

Which ones exactly? There's so many corsair fans

[shrewd juniper]

but I'd always get lian li over corsair fans, corsair have icky proprietary rgb, but I'd always get arctic p12/p14's (rgb) for cheaper and they're one of the best fans

[severe hazel]

I had ql120 that broke

[tulip matrix]

well should i go for the alphacool aio for the gpu

[knotty sparrow]

What GPU? If it's the 3090 in your name only things designed for your exact model will fit because there's still no universal bracket for 30 series like there was on 20 series.

Besides that, you probably want a full block with active backplate, 3090 memory gets HOT

[tulip matrix]

its for the Trinty oc 3090

it has a full backplate

[knotty sparrow]

That's a mostly reference design board so the reference AIO might fit. The standard model is listed as compatible but the OC model isn't on the list, but it is on the 3080 list. They may have made a small change that makes it not fit.
It's not an active backplate, but rather passive, so the memory temps may become an issue if you do anything memory intensive such as mining.

[tulip matrix]

i dont do mining but i do gaming and rendering mainly

[shrewd juniper]

Anyone know anything about the alphacool eisbaer aio?

[rose isle]

what you want to know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJoU_NzHGI
anyway, seems like performance is a bit bad. (360 beaten by many 240mm aios)

[shrewd juniper]

Just wondering if it's any good

I'll have a look at it thanks

[rose isle]

got some cool features, but not worth it

[shrewd juniper]

Mainly wondering how it performs straight up cuz i found a giveaway with one, sounds like it's worth my time entering ty

[fresh smelt]

I want to buy H150i cooler, but I want to ask first does it fit to MSI Z690 motherboard ?!

[timid carbon]

Buy an arctic freezer ii
Or lian li galahad
Or ek aio
@fresh smelt

[topaz blaze]

does anyone know any decent white rgb fans that aren't super expensive

[tulip matrix]

well any other recommendations for Gpu aios or waterblocks for the Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity OC

[kind apex]

ekwb

[tulip matrix]

well i did have a full parts lists ready

[kind apex]

@tulip matrix https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector-trinity-rtx-3080-3090-d-rgb-nickel-plexi

[tulip matrix]

i have that one in my list iirc

[kind apex]

than look no further

[tulip matrix]

the whole list is gonna cost me around $521

[kind apex]

and if everything loop related is made by ekwb it will save you a lot of headaches

I am not saying other companies dont make good custom loop products its just a pain to mix parts from different companies

[formal flume]

Have I put the fan correctly? On the heatsink

[shrewd juniper]

Other way

So that heatsink looks slanted?

[timid carbon]

Very

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah that was supposed to be also instead of so lol was just confused how it could be that slanted

[weary raft]

https://tenor.com/view/magical-magic-gif-13543499

[remote mural]

hi there, what is the best budget AIO for LGA2011 for Corsair 750D case?

[topaz blaze]

6 fans on radiator

good or bad

[timid carbon]

Depends what fans

[timid carbon]

The one I put in the list I sent

[formal flume]

Would that be bad?

On the screws I managed to get the top right and bottom left screwed in

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer/ek rgb/lian li Galahad

[shrewd juniper]

Idek how it's that slanted and mounted

So yes

[formal flume]

In what way?

[shrewd juniper]

There's no way that thing is touching the cpu properly

[formal flume]

So I need to screw in the four screws right?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeeee

[formal flume]

I can't lol

3 screws good enough? xd

Explain lol

[unique lily]

Snowy#2531 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[formal flume]

Bro the pins

Nahhh

[shrewd juniper]

Did you just rip the cpu out

[shrewd juniper]

Uh no you'll be able to get all 4

[formal flume]

THERE'S LEGIT PINS BENDING

Omg help

@shrewd juniper need help

@low pumice

[shrewd juniper]

To bend pins back you need to slightly heat them up and try bend them back but it's not very easy

[formal flume]

A heat radiator work?

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh if you put it next to it or a hair dryer or something

[marsh badge]

^

[formal flume]

What if I take 1 pin out would I be good?

[marsh badge]

uh

chances are the pin can be important

or not

but i suggest bending them back

not break em off

[formal flume]

50/50 basicly

Right?

[mystic tiger]

not really

[formal flume]

Oh

[mystic tiger]

best to just heat up the pins and take something thin and hard like a credit card and slowly run it through the lanes to try and bend the pins back

breaking off pins is one of the worse things you can do

[formal flume]

I got tweezers

[marsh badge]

tweezers?

that's tricky with that

[mystic tiger]

also the pins are kinda fragile especially in that bent state. if you arent really steady or careful with the amount of pressure youre using, you could potentially just accidently clip one off

[marsh badge]

pga problems

you're supposed to twist the cooler before you get it off the cpu once you finished unscrewing

[formal flume]

Kk

I managed to do 1 pin

Bro the anxiety

[marsh badge]

that paste job tho

you apply so much it's a mess lul

[formal flume]

Ik

Next time imma use little bit in the middle

Done

Good?

@mystic tiger @marsh badge

[shrewd juniper]

Looks fine

But the pic is very blurry

[formal flume]

@shrewd juniper the cpu keeps sticking to the cooler should I just not put any paste

[shrewd juniper]

What no

Just twist the cpu off

[formal flume]

Yeah I keep doing that

And putting the pins back to its place

[remote mural]

I think that was Lian li Galahad right?

[weary raft]

do NOT not put any paste

[wheat geyser]

so uh

my pc has one intake fan and no exhaust fans

should i be worried

[knotty sparrow]

What PC? That's fine for low end stuff

[flint veldt]

What are some good adler lake compatible radiators?

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic Liquid Freezer II

Or EK-AIO if you want RGB, or Lian Li Galahad if you want white

I don't know if EK has a LGA1700 bracket, I know Arctic does though

[flint veldt]

I still love the look of the captain ex one I saw in a build video.

They should make that for 12th gen

[knotty sparrow]

What about it do you like? The CPU block?
The consensus online is it looks nice but sucks at cooling

[flint veldt]

Yeah the look

It looks like an older cooler. I just like the look.

[knotty sparrow]

2016 so not that old but it doesn't say 1700 in the list of compatible sockets

[flint veldt]

I saw stuff about it from 2008 unless they re released a newer version.

[knotty sparrow]

Wow apparently one reviewer in 2018 got a leaky one

Instant fail for me

[flint veldt]

🤷‍♀️

I just want that look

[knotty sparrow]

I've seen something similar before, let me see if I can find it again

[flint veldt]

It has a very mechanic clock like feel. Adds like a classical feeling to it.

[flint veldt]

If I have 3 other case fans do I need a radiator for overclocking? Or could I just get a whatever they're called that is a fan that sits on top of it.

[knotty sparrow]

Overclocking on 12th gen? You absolutely need liquid cooling for that, they draw TONS of power and give off equal heat

[flint veldt]

Fuu they're all so expensive or not really feeling the look.

I'll look some more tho.

[low pumice]

Maybe take a look at EVGA clc? Pump looks different but same theme

[flint veldt]

$180 is kind of the top I'm looking to go here but even that hurts the soul.

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-clc-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835288014?Description=evga clc&cm_re=evga_clc-_-35-288-014-_-Product&quicklink=true

Slap some better fans on that and it's a really good cooler

[flint veldt]

What about nzxt x53? I saw a video saying that nzxt coolers should PROBABLY mount.

[knotty sparrow]

Krakens do have the 1700 bracket available https://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407896253339-How-to-get-the-LGA-1700-Bracket

[flint veldt]

lit

[flint veldt]

How do I know what radiator size I need for adler lake?

14.17mm good?

[knotty sparrow]

The thickness? That doesn't make as much difference honestly.

As long as it's a good model

[covert apex]

14.17mm radiator thickness lmao?

[kind apex]

I have that cooler

I kept the fans they are quiet and semi efficient and they can sound like a harrier jet is taking off and be really efficient lol

depends on your fan curve

[knotty sparrow]

Sounds like $18 for a 3 pack of P12 fans could help, even on full speed they're silent

[flint veldt]

You can take the fans off radiators anyway right and replace later if you want?

[kind apex]

sure

[flint veldt]

If I wanted rgb later

aight

[kind apex]

@knotty sparrow is right about the fans not being the best but they are alright and I bet they push more air than most other fans at harrier jet level noise since thats how I clean the rad it blows all the dust out I just couldnt sit next to it with them at that speed lol

I also got it right when EVGA released it and its still running strong

[shrewd juniper]

I think all the good ones are shipping with or shipping separately from site

[wheat geyser]

refurbished Lenovo thinkcentre m93

[dapper rivet]

Someone can help me?.. my question is about parts that I need for:

• I have a graphic card RTX 3080 FE and I want to buy all that I need for cooling with a waterblock.. but I need advisory.
  Thanks

[golden rover]

Don’t post the same question in different channels

[dapper rivet]

Ok I understand

[cobalt ledge]

What’s the best software to use for checking component temps and clock speed?

[marsh badge]

hwinfo

[tender venture]

@raven ruin Any idea when you will have the iCUE H170i ELITE LCD Display Liquid CPU Cooler in stock.

[shrewd juniper]

They don't respond to tags but why you want that specific aio?

[tender venture]

420mm radiator with three ML140 fans and the LCD display. It will look amazing in my planned build.

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh fair enough

[tender venture]

I'm not sure if it has been released yet 😦

[shrewd juniper]

Probs not

[idle tiger]

Hopefully enough to cool a 12900k https://i.imgur.com/8K3HFfG.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/IuvBA4y.jpg

[shrewd juniper]

What in the hell is that lol

[idle tiger]

A water chiller

[shrewd juniper]

Dammm boi

[golden rover]

man, I need one of those

[idle tiger]

I want an AIO like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662435148557713418/912318971888418816/IMG_8987.jpg

[shrewd juniper]

Ln2 aio?

[idle tiger]

Phase change

That eheim box is the pump, lol, massive

[shrewd juniper]

Noice lol

[tulip matrix]

Thats not enough cooling if you ask me

[topaz blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-got-em-gotcha-gif-14696347

[slow condor]

does aio cause a high pitch sound or is that a power supply? all other fans are not the culprit

[slow condor]

will a liquid cooled system heat up the room at a faster rate than a conventional fan cooled?

[low pumice]

Could be pump noise

[low pumice]

I mean, it's the same amount of heat, maybe it'll be slightly more delayed because the liquid soaks up some heat, but once coolant temps go up, the same amount of heat at the same rate will come out

[low pumice]

High pitch sound could also be coil whine, common in PSUs and GPUs, they're not indicative of any problems, it's just annoying

[slow condor]

if a gpu is going to be kept at 40c instead of 68c because of a water cooled system, i cant help but think that the heat is entering the room more efficiently

do i want my room to be the same temp as my case or do i want a hotter case and cooler room? is that a question that i face or am i wrong?

[low pumice]

It's not that, because whatever heat comes out, will radiate out, no matter where it is, if the heat is in the radiator fins and being blown out by fans or if the heat is in the heatsink fins being blown out by fans

But well, in the long run, it'll all try to get to equilibrium

How long it takes to get to equilibrium will depend

[slow condor]

i know in the long run liquid and air will be equal, im just concerned about rate. the linus video on this was over 24 hrs and didnt address rate

[low pumice]

@slow condor pretty sure GN covered time to steady state in air coolers vs AIOs at some point

It's something like 1 minute vs 5 minutes

[slow condor]

i just want the quietest case for best thermals

i despise rgb

[low pumice]

Try fractal torrent perhaps

[slow condor]

and why do u say that one

[low pumice]

Great airflow, no rgb

Well, forgot if rgb fans or not

Could turn off rgb anyways

https://youtu.be/HBxo2_lwKps

[slow condor]

the funny thing is im using a haf 932 atm and that same channel reviewed it agian 10 yrs later and the thermals are even better

[low pumice]

I mean, they did a review on the haf x, not haf 932 iirc

[slow condor]

u think theres a significant difference between the two?

[low pumice]

Old cases are old cases, I didn't really pay attention to them

[autumn iris]

Does the liquid cooler ii come with the fans installed already or would i have to put those in? Just a random question i just thought of

Ive never used a liquid cooler before so i dont know much about them

[marsh badge]

yep

you have to install the fans yourself

wait no

it's all ready for you to just put it into the rig

[autumn iris]

oh cool

[cosmic sand]

ID-Cooling Frostflow 240 is it good?

[shrewd juniper]

no info on it but, for an i5 11400 just get an id cooling se 224xt/vetroo v5/gammaxx 400 or gte

[cosmic sand]

well it's a deal if i get a intel cpu and a b560m both together worth 300$ i get it for free

[shrewd juniper]

ohh well if its free then sure

[cosmic sand]

oh its liquid nvm f*ck it then

nah screw it, it's for liquid cooling

[shrewd juniper]

nothing wrong with that

its an aio

[cosmic sand]

don't i need pipes and other crap worth 200$?

[shrewd juniper]

no aio, means all in one , its all included, thats just custom loop cooling

[cosmic sand]

oh

but i don't trust myself with maintaining a liquid cooler

i fear that i would mess up and it will splash all over the pc

[shrewd juniper]

you cant/dont need to for aios

[cosmic sand]

.. i'm dumb

[shrewd juniper]

dw lol undersstandable mistake

[cosmic sand]

nah it's a consistent thing about me i always overthink something and in the end i end up saying some stupid crap

[shrewd juniper]

I think it's a legitimate concern tbf

[cosmic sand]

yeah but it got better after i started doing physical exercises it help me build confidence

[left pulsar]

That's good. I've read that exercise also helps the brain 👍

[cosmic sand]

it does along with good sleep

and hydration

[left pulsar]

Yep. Hmm, I wonder if there's a test of how long would a cpu take to heat up to throttle point if pump was switched off or failed. My fan fails, then I get a silent passive heatsink 🙃

[tiny python]

Thoughts on best cooler for a non oc, i7 11700k? I don’t care if it’s air or a aio I just need something that can get my temps under control ( with current cooler I hit 96degrees on halo infinite)

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb/lian li Galahad 240mm +

[ancient wind]

Hey all. The rear exhaust case fan on my NZXT H510 started grinding on me after a big move and a change in environments. Nothings broken of bumping it there's no sag. I think the bearings just dried out.

Any advice on how to get in there and lube it back up?

Equally I am wondering if there is a 120mm replacement to the stock fan you would recomend in case it goes kaput or messes up further when I attempt a repair.

I've heard mineral oil or some very light machine oil works but I wanna be sure before I do anything to it.

Please tag me in reply or DM me because I otherwise have this discord muted.

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic P12
Super silent fan and moves a lot of air

Plus about $6-7 for one

[raw gull]

would it be worth replacing AIO fans with those?

[knotty sparrow]

Depends on the aio, but often yes

[remote mural]

hey guys, what is the difference between Lian Li ST120 vs Lian Li SL120? thanks, i want to install about 9-10 fans in my Lian Li O11 case not sure which approach is better

[rose isle]

The St120s are fans that come with their AIOs. The SL120s are their Unifans, that have a unique feature where they click into each other to minimise cabling. Considering you want 9-10 fans id recommend the SL120s

[autumn iris]

Is this a good cooler to go with? Was wanting to go with the liquid cooler ii but this ones on sale and $65 cheaper than the liquid cooler ii

[shrewd juniper]

Not really also it's 75$ liquid freezer is def worth the 10$ extra/20$ for rgb

[autumn iris]

Alright

[celest cave]

Hey guys, Im looking to purchase the corsair H150i Elite to pair with my 11700k. I also bought corsair SP120 fans. My question is, can i add the new fans to the controller of the AIO? I just wanted to make sure those were the same connectors as they use on their other products. Thanks!

[shrewd juniper]

Probably but i don't touch rgb with a 5 ft pole and i wouldn't touch proprietary rgb with a 50 ft pole

[celest cave]

yeah its not a priority just figured id just get something different then all my black pcs ive had in the past lol

[knotty sparrow]

The mags have really loud pumps and fans. The fans you can change but not the pump.

[autumn iris]

Alright

[slow condor]

what if you want to replace the cpu on a watercooled loop? do u have to drain the whole system? is it a hassle

[knotty sparrow]

If it's hard Tubing, yes you should drain it. Soft Tubing might move enough to get it out. AIO is no problem.

[radiant fiber]

PA120 black is out of stock everywhere, best alternative?

[shrewd juniper]

For what cpu?

[radiant fiber]

11600k

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-White-Heatpipes-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B08XM557HS

[radiant fiber]

Yeah I could go white but it’ll look so out of place rip

I might honestly just go white and take the loss

[shrewd juniper]

Next best option would be scythe fuma 2 but that's grey

[radiant fiber]

Hm alr

[flint veldt]

Went very unessecary with this but I splurged on the z73 is it compatible with this mobo?

pcpartpicker is telling me it is unsure but assume that is just referring to the bracket nzxt said they are shipping with their coolers now.

[low pumice]

Why not some different aio? But well, either way, you can contact nzxt for brackets later if necessary

[flint veldt]

Honestly I just really liked the look and the graphics aspect.

My cooler says 360mm. I saw a build video with the case I plan on getting and just kind of assumed this would fit but I think there was another size and want to make sure.

Lian Li O11 Dynamic

And the mobo more importantly since that is what pcpartpicker is telling me it is unsure about.

[low pumice]

MSI also has an aio with a screen now but well

[flint veldt]

There was the corsair one too but I just didn't like the look as much. The color scheme of their monitoring software, the circular cooler, etc I just liked more.

On the nzxt model

[tacit tiger]

back bracket broke . one of the nut holder are broken . where can i get backbracket for a corsair H115i? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[low pumice]

The backplate? If it came with the cooler, just contact corsair support

[shrewd juniper]

So does asus but it's dummy expensive, eks screen got delayed til Feb :/

[dry dawn]

Wait so I was thinking

water coolers should keep my room cooler for longer right

I understand that either way it's the same amount of heat

but since water has a higher heat capacity it should let the heat out slower?

answered

[warm lion]

Hello! What cooler is best for my i5-11500? Should I go for an AIO or an air cooler? Can you recommend one? Something on the cheaper side around 70 to 80USD hopefully. I'll be doing programming, casual gaming, and some video editing.

[timid carbon]

Gammax 400v2 or se224xt or vetroo v5 is fine

If you want to go for better premium cooling get peerless assassin 120

[shrewd juniper]

Using an aio on an 11500 is a waste of money

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't even bother 11500 isn't bot enough to warrant it

[timid carbon]

Leaves an upgrade path on the same cooler

But yeah i have my 11500 runing on a 400v2 and its never hit 80c

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh i suppose but without swapping boards not many upgrades worth your time

Like 300$ to go from 6 to 8 cores, and might not have good enough mobo for 10/11700

[timid carbon]

Fair

[storm raft]

Why are noctua fans more expensive than alot of other fans

Maybe because they are “premium fans”

[shrewd juniper]

(gonna talk about the a12x25 )Because they are better than a lot of other fans, they have great reputation and even though value not as good, they are slightly quieter and better to p12s at max speed etc

[modest fable]

anybody using EVGA clc 240 liquid cooler?

Is it noisy?

[knotty sparrow]

The fans are. You'll want to swap those. Arctic p12 are about $6 each and some of the best.

[modest fable]

with Arctic fans, can you still use the EVGA software to control them?

[knotty sparrow]

It depends on your motherboard

The rgb version of the p12 is about $15 each if you're talking rgb

And that would be controlled by your motherboard, and whether the evga software supports your board is the question

[modest fable]

Okay, I need to check it in details. I'm planning to use msi z690 pro-a

[knotty sparrow]

MSI does not work with evga software

Third party apps tend to destroy MSI lighting

[modest fable]

okay, thanks for the info

[shrewd juniper]

@timid carbon THEY HAVE ARCTIC FREEZER 420 RGB https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09CKW8LJ6

[timid carbon]

AYO ITS RGB NOW?!

HYPE

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-frog-frog-pog-frog-dance-gif-20735320

[languid gale]

Welp time to buy a P500a and that 420

[real bison]

I am looking for a replacement cooling fan for this computer.. can someone help me

Acer Predator G3-AG710

Acer Desktop Computer Predator G3 AG3-710-UW11 Intel Core i5 6th Gen 6400 (2.70GHz) 8GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 128 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

[stoic slate]

does anyone know of good flowing in cfm fans? noise is of no object. price for 5 i want to be around 100 bucks

[keen onyx]

Hello, I have two sets of Corsair Corsair Air Series AF140 LED Quiet Edition High Airflow Fans, and also some ML Series 120mm Cooling Fan Kit - Black/White. I have a Corsair C70 and a just beought NZXT AIO X53. Not sure what fans should I use on the cooler, and some for in air and out. I gladly appreciate the help.

[stoic slate]

it appers we have the same problem

lol

fan confusion

[shrewd juniper]

Uh I'd just use the aios fans

[shrewd juniper]

I'd just grab some arctic p12/p14

[stoic slate]

ehh. i kinda iffy on those. they are like too cheap. and whats the diff between a rifle bearing and a normal bearing

[shrewd juniper]

Price doesn't= quality, they are great fans, compete with the a12x25s from noctua at a fraction of the price, also pretty silent

Haven't heard of a rifle bearing before

[stoic slate]

ah

[keen onyx]

I was told by a friend who has the X53 and recommended to change the fans

[stoic slate]

x53 fans?

well mostly want high flow fans to push more air into my pcs small case

more to cool the gpu

[shrewd juniper]

They mean as in fans that came with the x53

[stoic slate]

oh

[shrewd juniper]

Well you could get the phanteks t30's? Think that's the name, but diminishing returns tbh

[keen onyx]

The fans comes with thr AIO

[vast gull]

Any advice on how big one can go with a CPU/high end graphics card and still successfully air cool? I've spent too many years as a plumber to want liquid in my computer. Everything leaks sooner or later.

[knotty sparrow]

Air cooling is perfectly acceptable for most CPUs and almost all GPUs, but not all coolers are created equal for both

[vast gull]

I am running the light simulator X-Plane and it likes as much memory and graphics as you can give it.

Oppps Flight simulator

[knotty sparrow]

You could use a 5800X or 10700k with a good air cooler, and even a rtx 3090 is fine on air in the right case

Or a 12600k if you want to go new gen

[vast gull]

Thanks. That is helpful.

[smoky kiln]

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-001H5
Anyone know if this comes with the mounting brackets required for socket 1700?

[shrewd juniper]

I don't but noctua would send you out one on request. For that price you can get an arctic liquid freezer ii 280mm or save money and get the 240mm version, if Arctic doesn't include the bracket they will also send out upon request

[low pumice]

Noctua will ship a free one on proof of purchase @smoky kiln
https://noctua.at/en/intel-lga1700-all-you-need-to-know

[smoky kiln]

thanks for the help!

[copper crow]

I got a used z63 and the faceplate looked like it has a scratch and a weird mark on the thermal plate. It also has a decent amount of dust all over it, anybody know if the scratch will effect performance and the best way to clean off the dust besides an air can

[low pumice]

scratch should not do anything other than looks, and just get compressed air for cleaning dust, least annoying way

[copper crow]

theres also a small burn mark is it good with that too?

[low pumice]

burn mark? I wouldn't worry about the mark, I'd worry about what made that mark lol

did they stick a blowtorch to the PC?

[copper crow]

well i dont know what it actually is, its like a tiny dark circle so i assumed it was a burn mark but its not like blackened or anythin

just never seen it before and he said he doesnt know what caused the mark

[gloomy wigeon]

Heyo. Can anyone tell me if a Hyper 212 will have out of the box compatibility with an AM4 socket? I have read some stuff online about an upgrade kit being necessary. I hope that isn't the case

[magic wave]

I'm pretty sure you just take off the AM4 retention bar things and use the ones that come with the cooler

AMD's desktop socket hasn't changed for cooler mounting in years, and neither has the 212

[gloomy wigeon]

additionally will the 212 be sufficient for a R9 5900x?

[magic wave]

I guess but

I wouldn't pair them myself

[gloomy wigeon]

what would you use instead? my budget isnt flexible anymore

[low pumice]

Around that price, fs140 might fit in the budget

[gloomy wigeon]

im seeing $120 for the fs140 thats over double what im spending on the 212

jk thats only on newegg

[idle tiger]

Bit silly to put a $20 cooler on a 5900x

Arctic 280 is the way to go there

[low pumice]

That's over double what you're spending on the 212, if you're spending more than 20$ on a 212 we have even more issues

Fs140 should be like 40-50$ on Amazon

[left pulsar]

yep. fs 140 and others are $35-45 right now. Actually, can I get some input on em? 😅 Would be for 11600K or poissbly 1x700.

[timid carbon]

For intel go peerless assassin

For amd go frost spirit

[left pulsar]

Nice, I was leaning that direction. Thnx. 4 more hrs on certain sale prices.

[plush schooner]

Can you overclock whit a hyper 212 rgb black edition?

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on the cpu, don't buy it tho

[plush schooner]

The cooler?

[low pumice]

Yes, 212 is very underpowered considering it's price and competition

[shrewd juniper]

If you're looking for something similar to 212 black for lower powered cpus, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 or gammaxx 400/gt

For more beefier cooler for same price, peerless assassin 120 for intel, frost spirit 140 for amd

[weary raft]

why do we not have a cpu cooler teir list here 😔

[plush schooner]

That’s a good question

Well we could try to make one?

[rose isle]

Gamers Nexus just released a video about this

[vivid jetty]

hey guys

where tha heck to cpu backplates come from

do they come with the motherboard?

or the cpu or the cpu cooler?

[mystic tiger]

with intel it comes with the cooler, same with amd however amd does have its own bracket for its cpu cooler that comes with the cpu

[rose isle]

for AMD they come with the motherboard. Third party coolers sometime come with their own ones

[vivid jetty]

ok thanks guys

ive built a lot of computers now but i never knew where these things come from lol

and i needed one to finish a build

[languid gale]

Too many variables

[rose isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vex9_84VpYs

[gray anvil]

That'd be an intriguing project. How would we organize it?

[remote mural]

Hi guy have a question, trying to complete my new build, im going to have a few lian li sl120 fans but for the cooler because lian li galahad 360 the lga 1700 mounting kit takes about a month to ship from aliexpress i might go with a corsair cooler... is it better to have the same brand in terms of fans/aio for simplicity in terms of using the software to control RGB lighting/fan speeds?

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh i wouldn't go with Corsair, proprietary overpriced bleh.
Lian li should be able to ship you the lga 1700 bracket if it didn't come in the box, no need to get from AliExpress

[remote mural]

I just want to know how things would work if you have like different brands for software purposes like is it more easy to have things all the same so that youre under the same software to access the RGB etc.

Oh but look at Lian Li's site https://lian-li.com/lga1700-mounting-kit-announcement/

it says you need to get it from their retail store and its from aliexpress which says shipping about a month 😦

[shrewd juniper]

As long as it's not proprietary you can use 1 software to control everything

[shrewd juniper]

Oof, you might be able to get it for free from customer support

[remote mural]

How can you tell if its proprietary? I was planning on getting Corsair iCue H150i Elite LCD with the Lian Li SL120 fans because that AIO might come in stock quicker with the lga 1700 mounting standard, i did want the Galahad 360 but the lga 1700 mounting bracket might take long

[shrewd juniper]

All of corsair is proprietary, nzxt is also mainly proprietary to my knowledge

[remote mural]

yeah i prefer having one standard software to control everything, so probably might be better to just get all Lian Li fans/aio and use their software?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah probs, or ek rgb/arctic liquid freezer (rgb) if you were gonna get the black verisons

[remote mural]

Yeah im looking for white instead 🙂 ok thanks for your help!... ill try to contact lian li support and see if they can get it out quicker

[shrewd juniper]

Np :)

[scenic gull]

is a case fan a "must-have" in any system? I just remember that I didn't put any case fan in the low-end pc I built for my aunt. Is that okay? the pc has no GPU

[knotty sparrow]

At least one fan is still good in a low end system with no gpu like that. Usually the one the case comes with is fine.

And if the case didn't come with one you can slap an arctic p12 in there for $6

[cyan plume]

Should my new AIO CPU cooler pump be making a constant low clicking sound? I’ve never had a liquid cooler before. Kraken X63.

[shrewd juniper]

No but can you dm me a vid of it?

[cyan plume]

Let me try getting a recording, might be a while.

[shrewd juniper]

No rush

[cyan plume]

Thanks!

[cyan plume]

Just sent that.

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah that doesn't sound good

[cyan plume]

Return and exchange?

I would say it’s a little exaggerated in the video, but it’s definitely noisy.

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah i would

[cyan plume]

What should it sound like?

[shrewd juniper]

@cyan plume wait actually what way do you have your radiator mounted?

Quite possibly some air trapped in the aio

[cyan plume]

Front of case, I tried both hoses up and hoses down, but hoses down only barely fits and the power supply shroud is cutting into the tubes.

[shrewd juniper]

Hoses up is actually better usually, means any air will be trapped at the top of the loop in the pipes and wont enter the pump

[cyan plume]

Also tried rocking the pc back and forth, no effect.

Just some gurgling but the noise stayed consistent.

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah then I'd return

[cyan plume]

I just got a few days ago, so that’s probably a safe call. Thanks for your thoughts

[shrewd juniper]

np

[quasi zodiac]

looking for reccomendations on a good fan upgrade for my pc. i currently have 4 stock case fans and 3 lian li st120mm fans on my AIO cooler. id like to make all 7 fans white fans to go with the rest of the build. easy RGB control is a plus.

[knotty sparrow]

How much are you willing to spend on this? White + rgb + quality fan is going to be a premium

[quasi zodiac]

thats fine

its not the worlds best pc but has nice componants and was my 1st build. looking for fans now then i need to locate a company that makes clean aftermarket psu cables

[knotty sparrow]

Extensions are safer than custom cables. Cablemod is generally good.

[quasi zodiac]

that's the site I was looking on for a 30 series cable because this Nvidia cable is UGLY! but that will have to wait until after the fans. them being different is bugging me lmao. didn't know if I should just stick with the St120 that I already have some experience with or go a different route.

also sucks trying to find just 7 fans too. I only find packs of 3.

[knotty sparrow]

Getting a 3 pack of st120 plus a single is an option. Personally in your shoes I'd go for the uni fans, sl120. You can get two 3 packs and a single fan, and it should be easier to cable manage with the interconnect system they have.

[quasi zodiac]

I'll have to check into the sl120

[knotty sparrow]

I see what you mean, the black fans really stand out

[quasi zodiac]

YEAH!!!

and the damn Nvidia cable

[knotty sparrow]

I got the corsair 12 pin cable from best buy, no more adapter. You can get a custom white sleeve to put over it or cut off the black one.
I got more benchmark points with that cable too lol

[quasi zodiac]

What's my beat option as far as finding the single fans so I only have to source 7 and not 9. And yeah I'm hoping the cable mod is a solid choice.

[knotty sparrow]

Newegg sells single sl120 fans

[quasi zodiac]

Perfect! Thank you!

[knotty sparrow]

2 packs of 3 and a single

[quasi zodiac]

They sell single packs in pretty much every fan?

[knotty sparrow]

A lot of them yeah. Might not always be in stock because shortage.

[compact thorn]

Yo

I have a question

It's ok but of a stupid one but like idk

On aios do you have to put water in em

[timid carbon]

No

They are called all in one's for a reason

[compact thorn]

Yes but like is all in one water cooling

So idk

[mystic tiger]

you dont have to put water in them since they already have water in them hence all in one

has everything

[compact thorn]

Okay

[mystic tiger]

has the tubing, has the block, has the radiator, has the fans, has the water

[knotty sparrow]

Only ancient 2010 era AIO coolers needed to be filled, modern stuff is all sealed and ready

[low pumice]

Some have fill ports, but you don't need to fill them for years

[karmic root]

So I’m so confused this cooler was $800 at one point nows it’s $460 does anyone know what the actual-price is :ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 RGB all-in-one liquid CPU cooler 360mm Radiator

I wanna buy one but I don’t wanna pay 200 over retail for a cooler

[low pumice]

MSRP is 310$ iirc, but it isn't worth much over 150$ anyways

[marsh badge]

ryujin?

expensive af

might as well get ek aio or something

much cheaper

[quasi zodiac]

I love my lian li galahad. Great price and works very well.

[shrewd juniper]

Ek made a 280mm rgb aio finally

[flint veldt]

I pretty pretty much just have the bracket left to be able to put on my cooler. I need a lga1700 bracket tho which nzxt is OOS for and put me in line. Can I request the bracket through newegg since that is actually who I ordered the cooler from?

[knotty sparrow]

Newegg won't have them

[flint veldt]

Dam

[compact thorn]

So like I have a i9 12900k, z690 asus maximus, ddr5 g.skill 6000 cl36 would it be wrong of me to like just use a aio?

Cause I think it's ok my friend thinks it's stupid and I should do a custom loop

[bright ether]

yeah AIOs are fine

@compact thorn

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic liquid freezer II 360+ size for that hot chip

[bright ether]

can confirm great aio

[compact thorn]

I was going to look at getting a kraken

[knotty sparrow]

Not as good cooling on those

Keep in mind your 12900k can use 240W of power at stock settings

[bright ether]

and much more expensive

[knotty sparrow]

All that energy translates to a lot of heat, you really do need one of the best coolers

[bright ether]

^^^

but do make sure that the aio will fit in ur case

[topaz blaze]

so i bought a corsair aio and the midle fan started rattling what do i do

[shrewd juniper]

If there's no wire in the way/stopping it for a sec with your finger doesn't work rma time

[tender venture]

Anyone know where I can buy the CORSAIR iCUE H170i ELITE LCD Display Liquid CPU Cooler OR the upgrade kit?

[mystic tiger]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Liquid-Cooling/iCUE-ELITE-CPU-Cooler-LCD-Display-Upgrade-Kit/p/CW-9060056-WW

[marsh badge]

99 bucks tho

yikes

[shrewd juniper]

But screen

[marsh badge]

99 bucks for upgrade kit is

kinda absurd

but understandable cause screen

[shrewd juniper]

Still ridiculous but ppl have proven they'll pay for it

[marsh badge]

yep

screen is the selling point

[rose isle]

https://www.in-win.com/en/cooling/ase120

anyone have experience with these? thinking or replacing my LL120s

[shrewd juniper]

No but be quiet just released silent wing fans that look like that if that's the style you're looking for

[rose isle]

I want subtle RGB. BeQuiet stuff is not available here, unfortunately

[shrewd juniper]

Shame :/

[rose isle]

indeed

🥲

[timid carbon]

Get cooler master mf 120 prismatics

10/10

[rose isle]

got jokes, hey? 🤣

will change my ram to Gskill Royals to match that gaudiness

[timid carbon]

I mean its just 30 obnoxiously bright LEDs on each fan

[timid carbon]

I was dead seriously considering it

[rose isle]

if thats what you like, then have at it bud. live your best life

[timid carbon]

Nah fam I dont even like rgb lmfao

Just wanna make it as disgustingly rgb as I can

[rose isle]

"disgustingly rgb " 🤣

feel that definition in my soul

just leave it on rainbow wave

ALL THE COLOURS

[timid carbon]

What I see from where I'm sitting

Wall behind pc

[rose isle]

oh snap! HAHAHAHAHA. amazing

[timid carbon]

I was not kidding when I said it's disgustingly RGB lmao

I paid for 30 obscenely bright leds imma use 30 obscenely bright leds

@shrewd juniper look lmao

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

[storm raft]

I miss the old logitech logo

[thorny oxide]

Hey guys, I need some help please. From newegg, I want to order a Kraken Z63 in white color, but I'm not sure if the LGA 1700 bracket is included in the box, can anyone please confirm, or give me a newegg link?

I already have a kraken z63 in black color which is a waste for now, I gotta finish my 12th Gen build

[low pumice]

To start, z63 is not a great cooler for the price, but if you really really wanted it, well, it's a 50/50 chance, but you can get brackets from NZXT if necessary.
https://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407896253339-How-to-get-the-LGA-1700-Bracket

[thorny oxide]

That's right, due to long waiting queue, I decided to buy a new Kraken instead, as I've heard that they are shipping new coolers with those brackets

[low pumice]

They were making new coolers with new brackets, but retailers still have old stock, so that's why it's 50/50

[thorny oxide]

Got it. Can you please recommend a good white cooler for 12700K

[low pumice]

Lian LI Galahad 360mm

[thorny oxide]

I have h510 elite, need 280mm

[low pumice]

Pretty sure Lian LI made a Galahad 280mm too, but would change case too if possible xD

[thorny oxide]

haha, its brand new, can't return because I'm in middle east

[low pumice]

Sad international return policies are annoying

[thorny oxide]

yup, the govt duties and taxes etc, that's why I don't want to get involved in it, but really interested in 12700K, or else, I can go with the 11700K. I need the 12th gen for production workflow, fulltime

There are some kraken coolers which are sold directly by nzxt on newegg, I contacted their customer support, no answer yet

[flint veldt]

NZXT is OOS on their LGA1700 brackets with no forsure time on when they will ship it to me. Is there like a temp $50 cooler that forsure comes with the bracket on amazon? Kind of really need the pc for school with a week left so will overnight it.

Also preferably something I don't have to apply thermal paste to. I don't think you need to apply thermal paste with a fan cooler correct?

Idrk

[thorny oxide]

you need to...

I'm also stuck with the LGA 1700 issue

[flint veldt]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08WPDD6GD/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1
Think I'm just going to order this for the time being. What kind of paste is good enough to get me by that I can also get on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Ultra-Low-Impedance-Heatsink-Compound/dp/B07KQ1T158/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=thermal%2Bpaste&qid=1638905621&sr=8-3&th=1
Will this get the job done?

[thorny oxide]

ARCTIC MX-5

I'm not sure about the cooler performance though

[flint veldt]

ty

[thorny oxide]

welcome

[shrewd juniper]

dont order that, overpriced, what cpu is it for, either get cheaper alternative or better for same price, and just use the stock paste

[shrewd juniper]

not unless its very new but ek has one now

[flint veldt]

What cooler should I get then on amazon that will just get me by for now.

And switched it out to the arctic paste

[shrewd juniper]

what cpu is it for?

[flint veldt]

12700k

[shrewd juniper]

just use the stock paste

[flint veldt]

Will a cooler be shipped with paste?

One of these $50 coolers?

[shrewd juniper]

the absolute minimum "to get by" cpu cooler for a 12700k is a scythe fuma 2

[flint veldt]

I just need a cooler to get me by for now.

[shrewd juniper]

technically an id cooling se 224xt would be the same perf of a u12s but 30$ instead of 50

it would overheat af so for that to work you would need to power limit in bios

[shrewd juniper]

yes

[flint veldt]

So get the scythe?

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Design-Towers-Cooler-SCFM-2000/dp/B07QMK5R45/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=scythe+fuma+2&qid=1638908473&sr=8-2
This one?

[shrewd juniper]

yes that will handle a 12700k till you can get better

[flint veldt]

Aight ty just overnighted that. Have finals and projects so need to get this built and running tomorrow night.

Because I messed up and started dismantling my pre built.

[shrewd juniper]

ahh nice

[thorny oxide]

which one? I can only see 240 and 120 on newegg

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/p/37B-000B-00469?Description=ek rgb&cm_re=ek_rgb-_-37B-000B-00469-_-Product

[thorny oxide]

Sorry
We can't find this Item. Please check your Item#.

[shrewd juniper]

what country?

[thorny oxide]

Saudi Arabia

[shrewd juniper]

ahh

[thorny oxide]

That's the issue, it shows me some kraken coolers, but I'm not sure about LGA 1700

even contacted nzxt directly, still no response

[shrewd juniper]

https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a you can get this if you want a 280

[thorny oxide]

Is it good enough for 12700k?

stock settings, no OC

[shrewd juniper]

yeah, optimally a 360mm but arctic is the best tied with EK rb and lian li galahad for intel

[thorny oxide]

cool

thanks man

[shrewd juniper]

np

[flint veldt]

@shrewd juniper That's not a lga1700 cooler..

[shrewd juniper]

nvm thought you meant arctic liquid freezer

[shrewd juniper]

ohh scythe fuma 2? should have the lga 1700

[flint veldt]

What do you mean should have the lga1700?

[thorny oxide]

It says on the page:
https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-280-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186248

but its the same issue, like NZXT

[shrewd juniper]

nvm it its not

[thorny oxide]

says contact the manufacturer for bracket

[flint veldt]

Can't even cancel order bc amazon is having issues.

[shrewd juniper]

BMH why not just buy a liquid freezer?

[flint veldt]

I have an nzxt cooler. If there is a cheap freezer that actually has the bracket I will get that.

[thorny oxide]

same here

[shrewd juniper]

most of them you need to request from manufacturer, usually arent in the box yet

[shrewd juniper]

maybe just return it?

[thorny oxide]

msi does ship in the box by the way

[flint veldt]

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U12S-Performance-Cooler-redux-1700/dp/B08WPDD6GD/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=lga+1700+cooler&qid=1638910787&sr=8-6
This does come WITH the 1700 bracket right?

[shrewd juniper]

Possibly but most likely have to contact noctua for bracket

[thorny oxide]

They do have a mounting bracket here:
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NM-i17xx-MP78-chromax-black-Mounting-Platform/dp/B09FSWN7XR

But check its compatibility with the cooler models

[flint veldt]

I already ordered two things and amazon is shtting the bed and not letting me cancel orders. So unless I can get those cancelled I'm not touching anything else on Amazon rn.

But thx

[flint veldt]

Ok it let me cancel one order now I just have to figured out if this has the bracket or not for the noctua cooler.

https://noctua.at/en/productfaqs/productfaq/view/id/247/
Mine is the NH-U12S redux. It says it should have been putting the LGA 1700 bracket in October I believe so ya'll think I'm good and it will have it?

[thorny oxide]

Not sure

I'm also confused with this 12th gen, already have a kraken cooler, still waiting for the asus mobo, will try the old socket on it, gotta take care of the pressure though, 12th gen sits bit higher

[flint veldt]

Looking at the site I believe it should and it is shipping through Noctua not amazon so I just got this for now to get me by.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08WPDD6GD/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1

Watch NZXT get the brackets back in stock in like two days.

That's always my luck.

[shrewd juniper]

If they do you can just return the cooler then

[left pulsar]

dang, what a pain w / the bracket fiasco huh. Well, this is another good cooler option for $40 ish. No 1700 bracket though of course https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0982VWQN1

[barren gale]

Damn I'm sad, I need to change my phanteks cooler because they don't make LGA1700 brackets

even emailed them

currently running this

https://www.phanteks.com/PH-TC14PE.html

Thinking of getting a 12700 or 12900 CPU

I do have room for a 2 or 3x 120mm rad in the top of my case

should I go liquid instead ?

[shrewd juniper]

Yes, 240mm, ideally 280mm+ aio is min for 12700k and 280mm, ideally 360mm+ aio min for 12900k

Get an arctic liquid freezer ii 280mm + or lian li Galahad 360mm or ek rgb 280mm +

[barren gale]

https://www.newegg.ca/lian-li-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-002Y-00003?Description=lian li galahad&cm_re=lian_li galahad-_-2YM-002Y-00003-_-Product

Does this include the lga1700 bracket or no ?

LGA1700 mounting bracket will be available in late Nov 2021

are we late nov 2021 yet ?

[left pulsar]

Probably still have to call/email to get the bracket

[barren gale]

AAhhh yeah makes sense

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003370699155.html?spm=a2g0o.placeorder.0.0.77ea321eFHF4DA&mp=1

you have to order it from lian li's official store on aliexpress

If I order my parts right now and have to wait a month before I assemble things I'm scared of running out of warranty

before I get my things

Certain items from Newegg on Newegg.ca will automatically be eligible for an extended refund or replacement through January 31, 2022. Purchase date must be between November 1, 2021 and December 24, 2021. Please see the individual product's return policy for details.

oh nice guess I'm fine then

[dapper yew]

Question, is a Cooler Master M240L 240mm version 1 AIO enough to cool a Intel I7-10700K?

[marsh badge]

don't get that

go with liquid freezer ii or ek aio instead

[dapper yew]

Already bought, just was wondering if it was worth going through the RMA process to make the most of the 80$ I already spent.

[marsh badge]

oh hm

[dapper yew]

Since the one I got was a lemon

[marsh badge]

well

yeah sure

just rma it

[dapper yew]

Thank yah!

[shrewd juniper]

[rose isle]

oooooh!

now thats tasty

[marsh badge]

price pls

[shrewd juniper]

190$

[marsh badge]

ooh

that's not expensive at all tbh

considering the unifans

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

[rose isle]

All fans should be unifans

[barren gale]

So I did order the backordered version of the lian li aio

Even tho it's back ordered it will arrive in time since the bracket is only coming in early january from aliexpress...

I'll report back on how long it takes to get the bracket

[flint veldt]

These came with my nzxt cooler. This isn’t the right bracket or brackets to be the lga1700 tho right?

The bigger one is plastic the smaller is metal.

Oh yeah nvm reading pamplet def not.

[mint spire]

Whats the difference between reference and founders edition?

[low pumice]

Founders edition has a weird PCB, reference PCB is what many aib cards use

@mint spire this is what founders PCB looks like

This is reference

[mint spire]

Which company makes reference?

How would u get your hands on one?

Or is it just manufacturer exclusive

[low pumice]

Basically, Nvidia sends the reference schematics to anyone that makes cards (MSI Asus gigabyte etc), and they either choose to use it or make their own pcb

[flint veldt]

Ya'll think I could just order a LGA1700 bracket though and it would work with my cooler or does it have to be specific to the cooler?

[shrewd juniper]

speific

[flint veldt]

Feels

Bad

[left pulsar]

Far as I know, reference card would be like most of the basic blower models.

[low pumice]

Afaik cards like trinity and xlr8 are reference PCB too

[left pulsar]

Idk trinity but xlr8 I agree, had an xlr8 card w/ a blower. Aib's don't usually want to use extra money/effort on those certain cards.

[low pumice]

Yea but just saying not just blowers since xlr8 looks like

[left pulsar]

Ah, so now there's many 2-3 ref models. Good to know. Makes sense w/ todays stuff. I figure almost every maker has ref, then some also have a handful of non-ref cards like Aorus Strix FTW3 (maybe not last one).

[plain mason]

is 65 celsius normal for gaming laptops ?

[sacred wren]

while gaming?

[plain mason]

yes

it’s getting loud af while just playing minecraft not sure why

[sacred wren]

thats normal

gaming laptops have bad cooling for the most part, and tend to be very loud

[plain mason]

would cooling pads help by any chance

[sacred wren]

maybe by a few degrees

[plain mason]

thankss

[marsh badge]

Eh

It may or may not help

But laptop fans are indeed loud

And 65c is amazing for a laptop

[rigid hedge]

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HC782D5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

these fans are fine for a p400a case right?

[marsh badge]

not fine, they're one of the best fans

so yeah you're lookin at the good stuff

[rigid hedge]

alright ty ty

[forest storm]

How different is the 11th gen intel socket 1200? this fan on paper doesnt fit the spec but can it actually cool an 11th gen i5?

Cooler Master i50 CPU Cooler - 92mm Low Noise Cooling Fan & Heatsink - https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-air-cooler-series-i50/p/13C-000X-002T6?Item=9SIAE3088N3676

I want to use it with this board - MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

[shrewd juniper]

It should fit but it's a poor choice, and don't get a z490 for your i5, if you're getting an 11600k get a z590 and a better cooler (11600k is a poor choice atm) or if you're going 11400 or 11500 go b560 board and get like a gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 cooler instead

[forest storm]

ty

[forest storm]

How is this for a cooler? Do you think I'll need any additional hardware to install it? - https://www.newegg.com/evga-clc-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835288014?Item=9SIB2FZGNF9583

And this board -
ASUS TUF Gaming Z590-Plus WiFi 6, LGA 1200 (Intel 11th/10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 3 x M.2/NVMe SSD, 14+2 Power Stages, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Front Panel Type-C, 2.5Gb LAN, Thunderbolt 4 Support, Aura RGB Lighting) - https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119370?Item=N82E16813119370

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu are you trying to cool, it's a good cooler but overkill for an 11600k or lower

[forest storm]

Intel Core i5-11600KF - Core i5 11th Gen Rocket Lake 6-Core 3.9 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor - BX8070811600KF - https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-11600kf-core-i5-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118261?Item=N82E16819118261

I just kind of feel like if I'm going to spend $30 on a cooler might as well spend a little more

[shrewd juniper]

you can get the aio if you wish but you can get a peerless assasin 120 instead and that will do just fine, also if you use that attitude youll 50$ your way into spending 300$ extra for hardly any more perf if at all

[forest storm]

lol

guess the logic doesnt scale

[left pulsar]

"diminishing returns"

[left pulsar]

Time to bother w/ a re-paste

[slow condor]

Where does the water go in a radiator?

[shrewd juniper]

In an aio ? It's already in

[marsh badge]

It flows in the tiny fins

Of the radiator then back out thru the pipes

[shrewd juniper]

Oh right thought they meant fill lol

[marsh badge]

ye

They're asking about where the water flows

[slow condor]

I dont see how water can enter the fins

[marsh badge]

Water flows through anything that's bigger than its molecues

[rose isle]

the water flows in the channels that run BETWEEN the fins

[marsh badge]

oop

yeah i explained it wrong lmao

the fin dissipates the heat

[slow condor]

Does a thicker radiator require stronger fans?

[shrewd juniper]

Require is a strong word

[rose isle]

ideally, you look for a fan that has the most static pressure

[shrewd juniper]

Just get some Arctic p12s tbh

Either that or the 30mm phanteks fans

[rose isle]

some fans do that by spinning fast, others have better fin design. look for fans with high SP, but lower top speed

thats should mean less noise

[slow condor]

Why aren’t gpu aio’s more common?

[low pumice]

they're annoying to put on

and for watercooled models, it needs the case to have another radiator mount and therefore applicable to less people

[rose isle]

because :

1. Expensive
2. On a cpu if your AIO goes, you can just replace the cooler. On your GPU, if the AIO goes, more than likely your GPU is a brick

[shrewd juniper]

You can custom loop it but that's spensive

[rose isle]

sure, as long as the PCB is compatible with a block.

also, and this is a big one, AIO cards dont generally perfom much better than air cooled ones.

cerainly not enough to justify the costs

[pure sparrow]

$73 good or nah?

[shrewd juniper]

Nah

[pure sparrow]

Is there any good one under $100

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu you tryna cool?

[pure sparrow]

5 5600x

[shrewd juniper]

You don't need more than a frost spirit 140

But if you want aio, arctic liquid freezer /ek rgb/lian li Galahad

240mm +

[idle tiger]

Don't those CM units leak?

[shrewd juniper]

Idk if that one in particular does but they're mediocre at best and have a history of leaking anyway so i wouldn't trust

[left pulsar]

Adding that the "hybrid" GPUs w/ aio connected don't cool much better than the best 3fan models. Would be neat to have a 92mm cpu hsf or something like that on a gpu.

[topaz blaze]

is it a good idea to install aio like this

[marsh badge]

that's fine, best would be mounting it on top tho

[topaz blaze]

mounting it on top is impossible with ram

[marsh badge]

eh don't worry about it

mounting it on the front is fine

[topaz blaze]

does the way the cable faces matter

[marsh badge]

nope

[mint spire]

Is it ok to leave all my fans on exhaust for a custom loop

Im planning to use 2 radiators and i saw a vid saying that if i leave one radiator on intake and the other on exhaust its just gonna take the hot air from the bottom rad and take it to the top rad which wont be efficent

[shrewd juniper]

Umm i mean technically but it's a poor idea

It will be bad for cooling and create more dust

You'll want front rad intake, top rad exhaust

The front will take in cold air and the top will exhaust hot air

[mint spire]

Im using a phanteks neo qube

There isnt a front panel

Just top, bottom, and side

Side is gonna be occupied cause im planning to use a distro plate

[autumn iris]

Something ive been wondering is there a reason that AIOs arent made where you can see the liquid like custom liquid cooling?

[shrewd juniper]

Same thing applies if you replace side with front

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh then bottom rad should be intake

[mint spire]

Alr then

[shrewd juniper]

I mean it would be clear plastic

Wouldn't look v good