old-cooling

[cold sable]

Does the Arctic liquid ii 420 has better cooling than the 360mm?

For my 5900x

I got Lian li Galahad on hand but still looking for more options

[shrewd juniper]

Galahad, ek argb or arctic are the best, rest are kinda a waste of time

Yes the 420 will cool better

[cold sable]

Ek argb fan management was a big nope

So il just go with my Galahad

Thx

[scenic osprey]

hi which are best Noctua IndustrialPPC NF-F12 vs arctic liquid freezer 2 360 stock fans

[knotty sparrow]

The stock fans on the freezer are P12, which are optimized for liquid cooling and some of the better fans around

[scenic osprey]

ok

[lucid hawk]

"Noctua IndustrialPPC NF-F12" these have garbage noise normalized cfm and dont belong in a desktop build

[low pumice]

Ye, industrial fans more about servers

[winter flower]

Yo

let me send pics pls

Ive been spinning these cpu fan screws for a good minute

What is dis. It fell when i was unscrewing my cpu screws

[alpine hornet]

honestly, i give up on deciding wether to go with aio or air, which one is easier to install? and has a lesser chance of me breaking something while installing it

[zinc mesa]

it really dosent matter, you could break anything lol

[alpine hornet]

fair

but for a 5900x, do you think i should go with NH-D15 or Lian Li Galahad?

360*

[zinc mesa]

360 mil aio will look cleaner and probably run a little coller

[alpine hornet]

but is the price difference worth it?

[zinc mesa]

what is the price difftrence

[alpine hornet]

i think at msrp about 50 USD difference

[zinc mesa]

with a 5900x you have already payed 550 dollars, might as well go good looking aio over the noctua colors

[alpine hornet]

true

[zinc mesa]

what gpu are you going to be using

[alpine hornet]

as of right now, looking for a 3060 till the market changes/i get more money for a 3080/3080ti

[zinc mesa]

ok, then noctua cooler are great but aio will look better

and is the build white or black

[alpine hornet]

uh as of right now mostly black

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgcRDc subject to change

monitor is j there so i remember it

dont actually have it

[zinc mesa]

ok aio will look good. does it fit in the case?

[alpine hornet]

yea p500a can do up to 420mm

[zinc mesa]

top or front?

[alpine hornet]

top is wha is planned

[zinc mesa]

ok, it will look better with a aio

that is my opioion, esspically with a machine in that price point.

[alpine hornet]

ok i need sleep dm me if you have any questions

goodnight

i ned speel

selep

sleep

[low pumice]

P500a fits 360mm top, 420mm front

Top mount best mount

[alpine hornet]

mhm i remember getting so bored watching gamers nexsus on the aio mounting vid

[zinc mesa]

seem like you need it

[alpine hornet]

yae

yea

[zinc mesa]

gn

[knotty sparrow]

That's the backplate, the thing the screws go into to hold them in place

[marsh badge]

^

To put cooler back in you need to put it back on too

[rose isle]

it will run cooler, it is certain

[strong berry]

is the h100i pro xt good for my 5800x or should i get something better

[rose isle]

h100i will do ok, but if you want the best look at a Lian Li Galahad or Artcic Freezer 240 instead.

[kind lichen]

BOYS

what is the cheapest and best cooler for i7-10700kf

is the cooler master hyper 212 good enough?

[timid carbon]

no

[timid carbon]

cheap and best dont go together

you get how much you pay for

[shrewd juniper]

to an extent nzxt corsair etc etc cough cough

[timid carbon]

fair fair

[lament sail]

Anyone got a gud 30£ lga 1200 socket cooler

Or a list ranking them

[shrewd juniper]

Id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5

[topaz blaze]

///>//

[lament sail]

Do u know how good the coolmaster 212 is compared?

[timid carbon]

do you?

[lament sail]

No do you?

[timid carbon]

yes

[lament sail]

Is it worth getting the 212 over the vetro or other 1?

[idle tiger]

worse

[low pumice]

212 sucky

Vetroo v5 se-224-xt gammaxx 400 all better

[timid carbon]

212 is worse and more expensive than se 224xt and vetroo v5

[idle tiger]

212 isn't bad - just not worth more than $15 or something

[low pumice]

It's relatively bad compared to other offerings at a similar price

But sure it's better than most stock coolers

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-you-adam-sandler-gif-14612875

[lament sail]

224 Vs vetro?

[timid carbon]

pretty much the same

[lament sail]

I'll go vetro as 5£ cheaper then

Any specific paste that's worth it or just any

[low pumice]

Should come with paste

Most coolers either come with preapplied paste or a tube for you to apply

[lament sail]

still worth getting better paste or na?

[shrewd juniper]

The 224 comes with a whole tube

Nah not worth really

Idk if the vetroo comes with tube or preapplied

Pretty sure gammaxx is a tube

[lament sail]

yh mixed answers about vetro having paste

but i mean i just wont apply it if it doesnt come with paste

then buy paste seperatly

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08NPNGT6D/?coliid=I8L149HAVHBPY&colid=LX6SRQBOOI0C&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

just gotta check dimentions which it should fix and im good

[idle tiger]

If you paste often, pick up a tube of mx-4

[lament sail]

bad image lol

this is how much room i got so not much

bruh i cant find stock cooler size for the 10400f

[shrewd juniper]

It will either come with pre applied paste or a tube you don't need to order extra

[shrewd juniper]

Can you kinda give a side profile or tell us your case? That pic doesn't give much context for depth

[shrewd juniper]

Smol

[lament sail]

lemme check case now

Tecware Nexus M MicroATX Mid Tower Case

was a cheap one i found for around 30£ as i had to budget

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TECWARE-NEXUS-M-BLACK-MATX/dp/B08K93SM7V/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=tecware+nexus+m+micro+atx+mid+tower+case&qid=1631035262&sr=8-1

front airflow also debatable lol

[shrewd juniper]

Should be grand

Not the airflow but the cooler

[lament sail]

ight ima order it sometime soon cause being a child i have no moeny

im saving for a 3060 which i might have enough by like after april or next christmas as i dont get pocketmoney which is fair

and i cant get a job because noone like hiring anyone where i live

[shrewd juniper]

Ever think of applying somewhere you can get to by public transport?

Just a thought

[lament sail]

na cause noone where i live or near r hiring

my sister tried volunteering and she didnt even get that

[lament sail]

scam

[paper island]

Do you guys think Lian Li thermal paste that comes with 360 galahad is OK, or should I get some arctic silver or something?

[low pumice]

Why would it not be okay

[paper island]

I mean... it would be fine, but is there a noticeable difference in temps?

[low pumice]

Unless you're using peanut butter, differences between thermal paste is going to be <1c most of the time

[paper island]

Perfect, thank you.

[rose isle]

I see a new Jayz2Cents video in the works...😆

[strong berry]

toothpaste
wait does that work

[knotty sparrow]

Toothpaste is ok short term but it dries out fast and is a little harder to clean off

[strong berry]

true

i use whippped cream instead

[idle tiger]

JB weld

[marsh badge]

whipped cream dries out even faster

[topaz blaze]

It's better off to use a third-party air cooler tower since the stock one looks too weak to cool down the CUP further more...

[magic wave]

for a 10400f?

no need

[shrewd juniper]

Wellllll not needed but can help with temps and make boost higher sometimes

[magic wave]

[scenic osprey]

is a 240mm aio as exhust

enough

[rose isle]

enough for what?

[scenic osprey]

5600x at max load

[steady agate]

which case?

[scenic osprey]

lian li lancool 2 mesh

[steady agate]

you def dont need an AIO

[scenic osprey]

k

[steady agate]

what country are you in? i can find a good cooler

[scenic osprey]

denmark

[steady agate]

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QCvqqs/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx-gte-v2bk

unless you want rgb, in which case: https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gbQfrH/deepcool-gammaxx-gt-a-rgb-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx-gt-argb

[scenic osprey]

ok thank you

[modest kettle]

are coolers under 40 dollars good

im gonna buy mine for only 28 bucks

https://shopee.ph/PC-Cooler-HALO-120mm-FRGB-3-in1-KIT-PWM-2000RPM-120mm-case-fan-rgb-fan-with-argb-Controller-i.361984358.6880066456?ads_keyword=wkdaelpmissisiht&adsid=11172912&campaignid=6462893&position=2 here is it

lmao

[sacred wren]

Get id cooling se-224xt if it works with your cpu

[modest kettle]

can i get a link?

[sacred wren]

Oh wait

One sec

[modest kettle]

cant fit 240mm

xD

[sacred wren]

I'm in school rn so connection is awful

[modest kettle]

only have 3 front and one rear fans

[sacred wren]

Bear with me

What cpu do you have?

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B08BY9P911/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=id+cooling+se-224xt&qid=1631188408&sr=8-3

[modest kettle]

I have a 10400f

im gonna buy an aio same time when i will order the cpu

[shrewd juniper]

I'd get a 280mm or 360mm means you can carry forward if you want and usually not much more money, although you don't need an aio for a 5600x, nice to have tho

[sacred wren]

Don't get that aio

First off 120mm are just awful, second you never want to buy a cheap aio. That's how you end up with a fried system

[modest kettle]

ohhhh okay

is the stock cooler good?

[sacred wren]

For an i5 yeah, as long as you have decent case cooling

[modest kettle]

any good heatsink a air heatsink>?

https://shopee.ph/PCCOOLER-GI-D56A-FRGB-CPU-Cooler-Silent-PWM-RGB-Fan-120mm-E-Sports-Plexiglass-Top-Cooler-i.199191933.8214449963?adsid=0&campaignid=0&position=-1

is this good?

[shrewd juniper]

https://shopee.ph/Deepcool-GAMMAXX-GTE-V2-ARGB-Cooling-Fans-i.77537960.7068914628 get this

[modest kettle]

is it compatible with my 10400f and b560 board?

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

[modest kettle]

aight

thanks @shrewd juniper will buy it when i buy the cpu on the weekend

[shrewd juniper]

Np :)

Does anyone have any reviews of the id cooling se 225 xt? Looks decent, 6 heat pipes 2 fans for 45$

[marsh badge]

5600X runs hot tho, to get the most outta it it's recc to get an AIO

But air is fine I guess

But it would run at high temp all the time, which is fine for the chip but ehhh, not that comfy for me

[sacred wren]

Eh, with a good air cooler I think it'd be fine

There's definitely some out there that are fine

[shrewd juniper]

Wack a scythe fuma 2 on it

[rustic onyx]

The 5600X is plenty fine with a Fuma 2.

[marsh badge]

But it's not a fuma 2 that he told the guy to get

I know a fuma 2 is nice air cooler

[modest kettle]

Is a stock cooler for a i5 10400f good?

I will buy an aftermarket cooler maybe in 2 weeks or should i wait for a aftermarket cooler?

[lament sail]

so ive been using my stock cooler for the i5 10400f until now

it hasnt gone over 75c

prob 70c max

ive had my i5 since may this year so if u dont have the money leave for now and wait a few months till u do

or if u have the money u could buy one

they might be 40$ ish

for what im getting or u could pay like 80-120 for an aio

thats good is what im guessing

[marsh badge]

ye

The stock cooler does have copper slug on the center

So it's gonna be okay even if it looks tiny

[modest kettle]

Aight

Im gonma buy what pato suggested

Under 40 bucks

An air cooler

Im too scared to use an aio bcos of the risk that it could leak

But thanks for your opinions

[lament sail]

u buying of that shope thing

[modest kettle]

Yeaah

Its our online store in sea

[shrewd juniper]

Stock will do if you cant afford better

[modest kettle]

Aight

[shrewd juniper]

What cooler worth getting is 40$?

[rustic onyx]

I think the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B is around 40?

But... My memory could be failing.

[shrewd juniper]

Good aios rarely leak, only ones really worth your money are arctic, ek rgb and lian li Galahad anyway soo

[shrewd juniper]

50-55

But you really dont need more than a 30$ air cooler for an i5 10400

[lament sail]

talking about that vetroo v5

[shrewd juniper]

That's 30$ btw

[lament sail]

its 31£ but idk how much that is in dollars

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh

Dont bother converting currencies

Makes things confusing

[lament sail]

yh prob better if i checked on amazon.com

[shrewd juniper]

31£ sounds right for the vetroo v5 yeah

[lament sail]

cause like the rk61 or whatever is cheaper on amazon.com than amazon.co.uk

[shrewd juniper]

Just different situations in different countries so best to quote in local currencies

Also in the us they don't include tax in prices so remember that

[chrome iris]

Not 100% sure if this is where I ask but I'll go for it.

Bought a cooling pad for my new laptop, it's been working fine for the most part. It does this thing now where it will shut off my USB ports? it has two USB ports in the back of the cooling fan. I use one for my mouse and one for the fan itself.

Randomly, it will shut off. I thought it was just the cooling pad but it also causes my other USB port (that has my headset connected), that has nothing to do with the cooling pad, to shut off. Should I look into another cooling pad or what is the deal with this one?

[steady agate]

no but is it worth the cost

[rustic onyx]

It's probably just something with the motherboard on the laptop

[timid carbon]

model and pics please

[timid carbon]

yeah. If you want great boosting behaviour you have to really cool it.

[rustic onyx]

It could also be overdrawing current from your USB ports. Just had that thought...

[chrome iris]

Lemme grab the model

ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 GA401QM-211.ZG14 (AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, RTX 3060 6GB, 14" FHD 144Hz, Windows 10)

wait wrong thing

UGH

[chrome iris]

This sounds like what is happening tbh

[timid carbon]

dont think thats it

also lets not jump to conclusions

[chrome iris]

because nothing else with the laptop stops working besides whatever is plugged into the usb ports

[rustic onyx]

If it shutting off other USB ports. It makes sense for the fan to be over drawing current.

[timid carbon]

model of the cooling pad?

[steady agate]

but does this boosting behavior improve performance enough to justify a purchase of above like 100$

[chrome iris]

havit HV-F2056 15.6"-17" Laptop Cooler Cooling Pad - Slim Portable USB Powered (3 Fans), Black/Blue

[timid carbon]

you can also upgrade the cpu down the line and not worry about another cooler

[steady agate]

this is true..........

BUT

will AIO's even be relevent by then

[timid carbon]

@chrome iris Does not plugging anything to the table fix anything?

[chrome iris]

I unplugged the cooling pad as a whole and the USBs are fine now

[timid carbon]

dont use those

[chrome iris]

MAN

[timid carbon]

try without em

[chrome iris]

this laptop only has so many usb ports

[timid carbon]

🤡

[chrome iris]

big downfall of it tbh

[steady agate]

seriuos question..

[timid carbon]

why wont they be relevant

lmao

[chrome iris]

also thank you folks so much for helping me!

[steady agate]

who knows...

[chrome iris]

i want this laptop to last as long as possible since the usps stole my pc 🙃

[rustic onyx]

Just buy a powered USB Hub

[lament sail]

Bruh what

[chrome iris]

Friend shipped their old pc to me in april and usps said its "damaged" and refuses to give it to either of us lol

[shrewd juniper]

Of course lmao

Why wouldn't aios still be relevant

[shrewd juniper]

Or plug into usb power outlet

[steady agate]

dude in like 5 or so years building pc's could be irrelevent

theres no way to predict the future

[shrewd juniper]

Lmao how

Dell gonna magically become good

[steady agate]

not because prebuilts become relevent

because some unkown science does

or technology

[shrewd juniper]

What lmao

We'll still have pcs even if they are different

[left schooner]

Hi, my computer tends to get dusty. I have an NZXT h510 case, with two fans, both configured blowing out. But when I feel them, they seem to be blowing in as much as out. Will better fans like a noctua nf-p12 help?

I don’t know if this is the right thread or if cases and psu would be better…

[steady agate]

noctua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[steady agate]

ur good

[steady agate]

if you dont want the hassle of swapping cases, just get some arctic p12s

[left schooner]

I don’t want to swap cases, just looking for more fans. My mobo has 4pin headers, but my current fans are three pin and work fine. So I assume the Arctic 3 pin ones will work too?

[steady agate]

they should

[left schooner]

Do the three pin ones change speeds, or no

[low pumice]

Dc fan control is still fan control

[marsh badge]

^

DC just offers less control iirc

I would prefer pwm if possible tbh

[left schooner]

I can put my dc ones in pwm mode from bios, they just made a louder humming noise so I left them on 9 Volts out of twelve. Probably don’t need that much

[marsh badge]

Yeah forcing pwm on dc isn't right

[left schooner]

K I won’t

[low pumice]

here's the thing

@left schooner how dc fan control works is by adjusting the voltage of the fan, while the fan just runs at the full speed it can

how PWM fan control works is telling the fan what speed to run at, while feeding the fan 12v

[left schooner]

Yes, I am intimately familiar with pwm from arduino 😊

I’m just looking to learn the application of it to computer fans

[left schooner]

It feeds it a square wave, the cycle can be adjusted to change speed

But I am curious, why would giving a dc fan pwm be not ideal? Wouldt it be the same as pwm fan?

[idle tiger]

Well, it'd just run the fan at 100%.

[marsh badge]

^

Different controls

I have a dc fan on a 4 pin header, tried setting it to pwm mode and it's stuck to max speed

[left schooner]

That’s weird

[marsh badge]

It's not weird actually

Expected behavior

[idle tiger]

In pwm mode, red wire is always +12v, blue wire sends a 5 volt 25khz square wave where the duty cycle sets fan speed %

[marsh badge]

Next time Imma get pwm fans tbh

And a fan hub cause I have only one pwm header apparently

[idle tiger]

Lot of fans like arctic p12's can daisy chain

[marsh badge]

Asus be cheaping out on their prebuilts

It's a basic B550M-K but many headers were missing

It has rog bios funnily enough

And ye, I'm actually eyeing at arctics

Just that the other brands has packs with hub that's attractive to me price wise

The fans seems decent

[idle tiger]

Make a pcie to 4 pin adapter https://i.imgur.com/z1Dxoc0.jpeg

[marsh badge]

Whoa

What a way to use a server psu

[idle tiger]

They were <$20 a piece, got a few left over from mining days, make great 12v general purpose psu's

[marsh badge]

wew

[shrewd juniper]

Nah just save the money up for a better case instead if you want better temps, adding more fans doesn't do much

[timid carbon]

*in that case

[shrewd juniper]

Yes ofc, in their situation

[steady agate]

they are very good.

[left schooner]

Ah thanks

[left schooner]

Hmm so it’s not thermals I’m super concerned about, mainly dust. Would dust filters help it then?

The fans are exhaust, and the intakes have screen thingys, but I can’t figure out where else the dust gets in

[shrewd juniper]

Not really, as you have negative pressure, more going out then coming in, the case will kinda create a vacuum and suck in dust from the pcie cages , basically anywhere it can

Only way to reduce the dust is hoover more, get a new case or put your case on a desk

[left schooner]

It is on my desk already :(

Would getting one fan to use as an intake help?

[shrewd juniper]

Doubt it, h510 has only tiny slots for fans to suck air

[steady agate]

lol

nzxt being such a rebel

breaking all the rules

[left schooner]

What if I put a fan as intake on the back of the case, exhaust on the top, and then another exhaust in the weird front radiator area

Tryna figure out where the fan places are on my case…

[shrewd juniper]

That would be awful tbh

A whole ass hurricane in your case

[left schooner]

So maybe an intake in the front?

I have no idea

[shrewd juniper]

Most likely a waste of money

[left schooner]

I’ll just clean it out and hope it doesn’t get dusty again soon

[idle tiger]

The h510 is totally fixable with - https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWE4011-Small-Grinder-One-Touch/dp/B009ELXH1K

Pick up a general purpose metal cutting wheel.

[rustic onyx]

Or just remove the front panel.

[shrewd juniper]

Afaik the front panel aint removable

[rose isle]

gonna need the angle grinder to do that

[rose isle]

because this

[rustic onyx]

Wha.... I thought it was removable.

[rose isle]

nope, it forms part of the chasis and is riveted.

[vale crystal]

Does anyone know which Corsair fans these are? I do not see them on their website

[rose isle]

I dont think those are corsair fans

[vale crystal]

I think you are right, the logo was similar but it is backwards...

well that makes this more of a challenge but explains why I couldn't find them...

Any idea what they might be?

Actually that helped out immensely, it looks like they are from AsiaHorse (that logo threw me off lol). Anyone recommend this brand? I am not familiar with them at all.

[marsh badge]

I wasn't talking about the p12, ik it's already good

[marsh badge]

Asiahorse is dirt cheap, not that great airflow wise

[vale crystal]

Good to know, I will keep looking. I love the look of them, but I am doing an 8k build and I don't need some cheap fans to cause issues down the road. I will go back to looking at Corsair and Lian Li

[marsh badge]

Lian Li does have good choice

Unifans

If you don't exactly need white but still want rgb, there's Arctic P12 ARGB

They're black, the fan itself is the RGB part

[vale crystal]

Yeah, it tool awhile for the SL fans to grow on me, I like the direction they went with the AL fans, but they just seem a bit weak in the rgb department from the images I seen.

I will look up those Arctic fans too

[marsh badge]

I think the arctic is the cheapest rgb option that's also good

They have 10 year warranty on them too

[idle tiger]

EK galahad is decent rgb aio for the money

[shrewd juniper]

Only good white aio anyway really

[vale crystal]

what would be the best fans if budget wasn't an issue?

[idle tiger]

Phanteks T30-120

[shrewd juniper]

Majority of people should just get arctic p12 tho

[marsh badge]

Best fan is delta, finger choppers

Well if you have no care about noise

It's l o u d

But pushes tons of air

[vale crystal]

🙂 I should have mentioned, noise is an important factor - I will be doing an equal amount of sound production and gaming

[marsh badge]

The one forks mentioned would be it

[vale crystal]

awesome, thanks guys!

[quaint granite]

Some good watercooling lga 1200 for i9 10900k?

[low pumice]

galahad freezer ii ek-aio

[quaint granite]

to fit in MUSETEX Phantom Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with USB 3.0 and 6 ×120mm ARGB Fans, Tempered Glass Panels Gaming PC Case Computer Chassis（G05MN6-HB）

[quaint granite]

does it fit?

[low pumice]

annoying case, maybe

prob fit 240mm top

[quaint granite]

what about this cooler?

Corsair iCUE H150i RGB Pro XT, 360mm Radiator, Triple 120mm PWM Fans, Advanced RGB Lighting and Fan Control with Software, Liquid CPU Cooler

[low pumice]

no

front mount sad

[quaint granite]

:(

[low pumice]

the case fits 240mm top

[quaint granite]

oke

thanks

[serene vortex]

Is discoloring something I should be worried about inside my fittings? some of them have slight yellow discoloring while others are chrome. scrubbed it out but the coloring wont' come off

[rustic onyx]

Is your fluid colored?

[summer plinth]

I was recommended the phanteks p500a case but see a lot of people complaining that the stock fans in that are terribly loud. Is that true and if so, what would be a good rgb replacement option that isn’t crazy expensive?

[timid carbon]

arctic p12

[shrewd juniper]

They aren't but if you wanted to for some reason arctic p12 rgb

[summer plinth]

Awesome thank you. Wasn’t planning on ordering any replacement fans unless I got the case and saw for myself but figured I’d check to make sure. Thanks all ❤️

[rustic onyx]

I honestly don't think the P500A fans are all that loud. They should be identical to the P400A Fans which are not loud in the slightest.

[summer plinth]

Yeah there were several reviews calling them “jet engines” so it’s great hearing that shouldn’t be the case

[rustic onyx]

Whoever is saying that is an idiot.

Go watch the review of the P500A by Gamers Nexus.

They are probably the most scientific reviewer of Cases on the planet.

[shrewd juniper]

I mean even at 100% they wouldn't be jet engine loud so idk what they doing

[karmic root]

Does anyone have the Lian li al120

[sacred wren]

im adding another artic p12 to my case, i have 2 intake 2 outtake

i should make it outtake right?

[rustic onyx]

You want more Intake than Exhaust typically.

[plush coral]

Hi, is ARCTIC P12 PWM PST A-RGB a good fit for this case

i am planning to add it to intake on front

i don't have any fans on top only front 3fans and the exhaust one

[steady agate]

those fans should work

[plush coral]

should i add the fans to top too ?

like in the image

[marsh badge]

not really a need

but damn that case looks like an asus rog prebuilt

[steady agate]

TRUEEE

[shrewd juniper]

The case is the problem with that question, btw but yes it work fit, might not do much tho

[shrewd juniper]

I thought it was for a good minute, and my guess is it will perform just as bad thermally

[tame dragon]

Change fan speeds besides the bios

All fans are plugging in via motherboard

[plush coral]

i see thanks

[plush coral]

Thanks for the help

[bright pulsar]

can anyone suggest a good, quiet cpu cooler? am4

[shrewd juniper]

For what cpu

[bright pulsar]

3700x

[shrewd juniper]

A scythe fuma 2 will do nicely, depending on the region

[honest sparrow]

how bout a be quiet dark rock pro 4

[shrewd juniper]

I mean you could but why would you price is bleh, at that stage you can get a 280/360mm arctic liquid freezer ii

[marsh badge]

^

[languid gale]

^^

360mm Freezer II

[brisk rain]

OOF

[steady agate]

my favorite cooler

to drink out of

[brisk rain]

I'm a bit surprised by the performance, it's actually not horrible

[azure crown]

bruhhh that cold plate

[marsh badge]

rip cold plate

don't even touch any die

[rose isle]

if they fixed that, might be the best budget cooler ever. 😆

[marsh badge]

yep

[knotty sparrow]

Seems like more of a "what pressure?" map doesn't it?

[marsh badge]

lmao

[timid carbon]

in terms of pressure there is no pressure

[topaz blaze]

What is the best cooler I can buy for 5900x

[low pumice]

evga roboclocker Arctic Liquid Freezer ii 420mm if you can fit it, 360mm otherwise

[knotty sparrow]

Something with a phase change like this would be more ideal than the roboclocker for "daily" use https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3317-phase-change-cooler-and-novec-cooling-der8auer-phase-shift

Of course that'll cost you upwards of $1000

[shrewd juniper]

What doe they mean by phase shift?

[knotty sparrow]

It works like a refrigerator, changing the fluid from liquid to gas and back again

[leaden hollow]

That's pretty neat

[knotty sparrow]

It can get you down to -100C but you'll have to deal with condensation

[leaden hollow]

Whoa, -100...

[rose isle]

look at a Arctic or LianLi 360mm or 280mm AIO.

[leaden hollow]

EK also makes a good 360mm

[topaz blaze]

Ok

[knotty sparrow]

Liquid Freezer II = Best overall
EK-AIO = Best RGB
Galahad = Best White

[topaz blaze]

Is there anyone that looks good

That’s black

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh fancy

[leaden hollow]

I'm sure for some time, they'll cost a pretty penny

[rose isle]

yes, forgot about the EK AIO too

[rose isle]

The 3 that Fal'Cie mentioned are all quite different so you can decide for yourself which one you like

[low pumice]

freezer ii offset mount for amd can be neat

[rose isle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#m=77,379,62&W=10360

whats with the EK ELite model being double the price of the rest?

[low pumice]

double the fans

slightly better pump

[knotty sparrow]

Huh freezer rgb is cheaper than regular model

[low pumice]

it uses push pull

[rose isle]

right, not shown in the picture. thanks

[knotty sparrow]

And those extra fans are better used as your other case fans instead of push/pull

[shrewd juniper]

Thing is the ek is a spensive boi

[rose isle]

they have 2 RGB verisons, RGB and ARGB... options are optional

[knotty sparrow]

Seeing as I have RGB header and no ARGB header, options are nice

[rose isle]

these 3 are really close to each other in price. 147.38/145.18/154.99.

[rose isle]

what are yo even doing with your life? missing out on those ARGB frames, my guy

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah, arctic is a clear winner on amd tho

[rose isle]

100%

[knotty sparrow]

I'm not missing out on much, I can still sync my RGB to my CPU temp

I like it to be practical, or else not at all

[sacred wren]

I didn't even know 420mm existed

[low pumice]

it does

[knotty sparrow]

Would you like to see how deep that rabbit hole goes? It gets much bigger

[low pumice]

car rad is fun

[knotty sparrow]

60mm thick 480mm https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-coolstream-xe-480-quad-2911

And a 560mm https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-coolstream-ce-560-quad

[magic wave]

ship radiator

[knotty sparrow]

There's a point where things become impractical for home use and I think you found it, ran over the point repeatedly, and lit it on fire

[magic wave]

and then cooled it with a ship radiator

[marsh badge]

560mm

damn i guess huge cases only fits that

[timid carbon]

LMFAO

[marsh badge]

even 7000d doesn't tbh

[timid carbon]

Falcie I love you

XD

[knotty sparrow]

I have achieved my day's goals then

[sacred wren]

Better screen shot that one

[gritty mantle]

Guys wth

My aio fans literally touch my ram

Is that normal?

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on your ram and case

As long as the ram isn't actually hitting the fan blades i wouldn't worry

[sacred wren]

If it becomes an issue I believe low profile ram is a thing

[gritty mantle]

No it's just the side of the fans but it looks a little weird

The radiator thicc

[shrewd juniper]

That's fine then

[weak phoenix]

Does anyone have good argb air cooler recs? I have the msi x570 motherboard and ryzen 7 5800 cpu. I had ordered an aio but it doesn’t fit due to the ram.

[shrewd juniper]

What case and ram you got and what aio did you order that didn't fit?

[weak phoenix]

I have the fractal design meshify c mid tower case, Corsair vengeance rgb pro 16gb (2x 8gb), and I had gotten the msi mag series coreliquid 240r

It’s the msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi motherboard btw

[languid gale]

Can you send a picture of how it doesn’t fit?

Nevermind, turns out max component size on motherboard is 40mm

Why can’t you just mount the AIO on the front?

[weak phoenix]

Technically I could’ve but I like the look of three rgb fans in front so I’m just gonna add two rgb fans to the top and go with an air cooler for the cpu instead

My graphics card is also pretty long so it might have been a fit issue in the front as well haha

The three air coolers I’m currently looking at are the vertoo L5, the vetroo V5, and the enermax ets f40. I really like the look of the L5 but I just want to make sure the next one I buy is going to fit lol

[languid gale]

Go for the ID Cooling SE224XT ARGB

Wait nevermind, not for a 5800x

Buy a peerless assasin 120 ARGB

The 5800x is a very hot CPU, and I wouldn’t trust a Vetroo V5 on it

[weak phoenix]

I’m not finding that one in black with argb. What do you think about the cooler master t400 pro?

Or the cooler master master air ma612

[marsh badge]

those are bleh

[languid gale]

You could always get the black one and swap out the fan for an Arctic ARGB P12

[marsh badge]

^

[weak phoenix]

Do you think that one will fit? It looks really wide

[unique lily]

qepiz#2929 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

qepiz#2929 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[sleek fox]

280 or 360 in AIO size for an overclocked 5900X?

[marsh badge]

360

Liquid freezer II is a nice budget choice

[keen ermine]

are laptop coorels worth it?

[marsh badge]

Depends on the laptop tbh

Sometimes it doesn't help at all

Just get a laptop stand

[keen ermine]

because laptop getting very hot

[marsh badge]

Laptop being elevated would already help

[knotty sparrow]

Use a hole saw and cut the intake vent out

[marsh badge]

lmao

[magic wave]

laptop coolers are worth it

I can't imagine running a laptop bare die

[sleek fox]

is a 280 that much worse? Guy I know wants to put one in a mini-ITX case (and I wasn't sure what to tell him about thatplan)

[marsh badge]

ocing

in itx

well damn

[sleek fox]

He's not exactly the... Most PC-savvy

[knotty sparrow]

Mini ITX with a 5900X

[sleek fox]

I told him not to do it

[marsh badge]

yeah it's

gonna run toasty

[sleek fox]

but he seems dead set on it

[marsh badge]

he won't be able to oc much in smol package

[sleek fox]

he was apparently watching Jayz and was like "Oh it'll be fiiiine"

[marsh badge]

it'll do fine, well with pbo

but it won't boost too much higher than actual max boost

[knotty sparrow]

You'll want to know the basics of undervolting at a minimum to keep temps in check, not because of the cooler but because ITX cases don't really allow for much airflow

[marsh badge]

yep

[sleek fox]

I was trying to steer him towards R5 instead

[marsh badge]

wanting to oc in itx is rip

well 5600x runs hotter, it's funny

[sleek fox]

he thinks OCing = noticably more game FPS

[marsh badge]

cause higher heat density

[knotty sparrow]

Let me guess.. it's also just for gaming

[marsh badge]

lmao ocing barely gets you fps these days for modern cpus

[sleek fox]

Outpaced :3

[marsh badge]

gpu oc gives you more fps

so does ram tuning

[sleek fox]

He allegedly said he would do some video editing

[marsh badge]

but cpu? eeeeehh, nope, not really

[sleek fox]

but I kinda doubt that

[marsh badge]

yeah video editing uses gpu

[knotty sparrow]

Video editing is also GPU lol

[marsh badge]

cpu sucks at it

ocing cpu doesn't benefit his case at all

[knotty sparrow]

Or having a 5900X for that matter

[sleek fox]

I... Will admit I didn't understand him either

[marsh badge]

some people are too stubborn

[sleek fox]

In other news, what sort of mini-ITX build would you recommend for a LAN-center style build

[knotty sparrow]

The only way that overclocking the CPU will give noticeably more frames is if he's playing cs:go with a 3080 and super tuned memory

[marsh badge]

yep

[sleek fox]

what's a reasonably priced mini-ITX build that works rock solid?

[marsh badge]

for what purpose exactly

[knotty sparrow]

NR200 is pretty decent for ITX cases

Or NZXT H1, now that they fixed their 🔥 problem

[sleek fox]

ah yes
The anti-RGB box

[sleek fox]

only games

1440p60

[marsh badge]

hm well then that's not hard to do

5600x+3070 or something

[shrewd juniper]

Why don't you front mount an arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm (rgb) then, because the 5800x needs all the cooling you can possibly fit

[shrewd juniper]

The best choice let alone budget 😛

[marsh badge]

lmao true

[shrewd juniper]

A ssupd meshilicous and a liquid freezer ii 280mm with pbo should just about be okay

[topaz blaze]

Does Corsair make good AIOs

[shrewd juniper]

No

[leaden hollow]

They're not the best. Go with Arctic Freezer II, Lian Li Galahad, or EK.

[granite spire]

i have a question on cooling/cases if someone can help possibly

i work in warehousing, we have micro computers - like intel sticks - i want to get like a "fan enclosure" or something along those lines to where minimal dust can get in, yet its properly ventilated - do they make any options? i couldnt find anything....

thanks

[topaz blaze]

Is the ek good with a msi motherboard and the software works

[cinder falcon]

Hm, I mean why wouldn’t something with mesh work?

Like a mesh filter.

[sacred wren]

^^

Maybe they want additional cooling?

[cinder falcon]

I mean you could use any enclosure you find.

They sell dust proof mesh on Amazon.

[sacred wren]

I'd guess maybe a mesh filter and something like a cooling pad would work? But that wouldn't really fit together lol

[shrewd juniper]

They all work with all the motherboard rgb software

[cinder falcon]

I would find an enclosure with fans that fixes your problem, and then add dust proof mesh to it.

[shrewd juniper]

I'd say get the arctic liquid ii rgb if you don't mind the pump look

[cinder falcon]

Now I don’t know if such an enclosure exists, but never hurts to look.

[sacred wren]

Yeah thats what I was wondering

I mean mini pcs without gpus don't tend to need additional cooling

[cinder falcon]

Well, I think he was only saying properly ventilated.

He said something like a fan enclosure.

[sacred wren]

Oh I misread that

Well misunderstood anyways

[cinder falcon]

I mean in theory all you need a plastic/metal box with holes right?

Maybe 1 fan.

[sacred wren]

Yeah probably

[cinder falcon]

To keep air going through it.

And then you would put mesh over the holes?

[sacred wren]

Could do what I did when I didn't have a proper heatsink and use a room fan lmao

Had a ft by ft fan on top of my pc for a month lmfao

[cinder falcon]

I’m assuming he wants these to be portable?

[sacred wren]

Just joking

But probably

[cinder falcon]

You could go the ghetto route and put the computers in one of these:

Rubbermaid TakeAlongs On The Go Food Storage and Meal Prep Containers, Set of 25 (50 Pieces Total), Marine Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0863YL7MN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_0N91WT2VKEWE8AV23XMH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And drill holes, etc.

[sacred wren]

Maybe, but depends how hot they get

Might need mesh instead of plastic

Metal mesh*

[cinder falcon]

That’ll be harder to find.

[sacred wren]

And I think the holes would be too big

Even a tiny drill bit would be bigger than a normal dust filter

[cinder falcon]

Zoo Med Labs Nano Breeze Alumuninum Screen Cage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3BCHWJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Z47NPRRAKGFEZ58PSTKW

Use this maybe and buy mesh dust filter.

[granite spire]

haha a pet cage

lol

[sacred wren]

Oh Darth how professional does it have to be?

[cinder falcon]

HFEIX 120MM PC Fan Dust Filter Computer Case Fan Magnetic Frame Dust Filter Fine PVC Mesh Length 4.72 x 4.72 inches Black-4Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S931F31/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XG12B2PMP09ET4GXJFX1

[cinder falcon]

I mean, it works lol.

[sacred wren]

Could always use one of those very fine bug screens around smthn

[granite spire]

not professional, just somewhat effective haha

[sacred wren]

Yeah those together would definitely work

[sacred wren]

Ever seen one of those bug screens for camping?

[granite spire]

yeah i have

[sacred wren]

That'd work as a dust filter if you want to just use a Rubbermaid thing with holes on it, wrap it around the Rubbermaid

[granite spire]

i am thinking about the mesh you just sent. if i put it even in like a tubberwear or something, put a small fan in there and put the mesh on the top it should be enough? right?

[cinder falcon]

Yeah it should be depending on how hot the PC gets.

Could melt the Tupperware.

[sacred wren]

Do you have a link to the pcs?

Or know what cpus they have?

[cinder falcon]

He said Intel sticks.

They’re super tiny.

[sacred wren]

Yeah but the specs matter

I3wont be too too hot

[cinder falcon]

I didn’t know Intel made more than one type of intel stick.

[sacred wren]

I7 could be a different story, though tbf I don't pay attention to mini pcs enough

You're prolly right lol

[cinder falcon]

He can’t send links rip.

[sacred wren]

Dm it to one of us

[cinder falcon]

Just DM it to Bacca.

I gotta take a shower lol

[granite spire]

the one i sent isnt the exact model but they are the same thing essentially

[sacred wren]

So 4c 4t

Cool

Do you know the Temps they reach?

[granite spire]

we live in South Carolina so pretty hot

90-100 for sure

[sacred wren]

Sorry, I had to do a paper rq

[sacred wren]

Celsius or farenheit?

Fahrenheit I'm guessing

[granite spire]

the latter

[sacred wren]

Yeah figured

Yeah you'd be fine to use the Rubbermaid most likely

I'd reccomend buying one setup thingy and testing it first before buying as many as you need

That way you can be sure it'll work

But even 100f won't melt plastic

[marsh badge]

100c also won't

[sacred wren]

According to Google you need 160c but idk how trustworthy that is

[marsh badge]

Most plastics anyway

160c looks normal for most plastics

[granite spire]

yeah so a rubbermaid tubberwear, a fan or two and put the mesh on top of it. holes for the cords

[sacred wren]

Should work in theory

Though I don't envy how many holes you need to make kek

Definitely buy one set to make sure it'll work tho

[granite spire]

ok thank you!

[shrewd juniper]

If their room was 90c they'd be worrying about other things xD

[sacred wren]

No the pc

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh lmao

[sacred wren]

Yeah that'd be a lil worrisome

[quaint hazel]

Me when 150c

[unique lily]

Moulando Barman#4957 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Moulando Barman#4957 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[glacial spindle]

how significant of a difference in thermals is there between a 64mm vs 27mm radiator? both are 360mm & both have same fan density of 14 fins/inch

[timid swift]

I just installed a brand new Noctua NH-U9S on my Ryzen 5 3600x, in a ROG Strix B450F gaming motherboard. When I boot my system the fan turns and then immediately turns off. I then get a "CPU Fan Speed Error" in post. The only workaround to make my PC usable I've found is just ignoring the fan speed monitor. But I can't play games because it will overheat. Obviously the fan works because it spins on boot, but turns off, and the motherboard connection works because I just replaced an old cooler that functioned when connected. How can I solve this?

[knotty sparrow]

While the fin density may be the same, there's a lot more surface area on the thicker radiator. You'd need a more powerful pump if you're running a lot of those thick rads, though. A D5 would be enough for up to about 480mm on a full loop.
The biggest difference in thermals will be from the increased amount of fluid, it'll take longer to heat up and it'll dissipate faster due to the increased surface area of the fins.

[glacial spindle]

I have dual d5

I'm only considering because I'm gonna do a loop in my other build

so I need another rad & thought maybe I'd get a giant one & put it in 5900x build then use old 360 in 10900K build

doesn't really make sense tho I guess since 10900K needs way more cooling

likely just going to get regular 27-30mms tho

if I have CPU & GPU on loop, how "bad" is it to have front rad blow into case?

hot VRMs?

ram is probably fiine

same w/ NVMes

[knotty sparrow]

If I was going for thicc rads I'd have to at least paint the visible sides instead of boring black

Hot air blowing over things is better than no air

[glacial spindle]

I figured I could put mega rad on top there & just shorten those two pipes coming out of it

I dunno what color I'd paint it tbh

most components are black

[knotty sparrow]

You'd have to make sure the rad can clear that top VRM heatsink and remove the rear fan but otherwise should be fine

[glacial spindle]

It would be in front of VRM worst case

It's about an inch in front. It's a big case

My hidden 92mm blowing on VRMs lol

Oh crap I just realized it's off

[knotty sparrow]

Well that's efficient lol

[glacial spindle]

Super useful

There's like 100 wires in this darn thing by now lol

[knotty sparrow]

The ironic thing is adding hubs increases the number of wires too

[glacial spindle]

Wait no it is on wth

6 hubs

Pain

[rose isle]

flip. good job there. youve inspired me to go an neaten up mine

[glacial spindle]

haha thanks but the bottom is a disaster zone

I guess they'd be way worse if I just let them hang without any attempt to organize tho

problem is after you take it apart so many times, you kinda get sick of cable management

[rose isle]

Bottom, by the PSU is always a disaster. unless one gets custom, cut to lenght cables

[rose isle]

LOL!! TRUTH!

[glacial spindle]

I've considered cutting off excess parts I didn't need but since this is a constant project, I may need them later

[rose isle]

fair.

[glacial spindle]

what drives me nuts is how many things I have that need molex

yet PSUs come with one cable for Molex

& a bunch of SATAs

I needed a place to put an SSD I use for benchmarks

and there was nowhere left to put it

1

so I got some of the double sided tape stuff & stuck it up there

[rose isle]

yup. double sided tape is amazing. had an old case with ZERO 2.5" drive space. so, double sided tape 😆

[glacial spindle]

haha for sure

I still can't get those damn thermaltake fan boxes to stay in place the way I'd like but whatever

[limpid quest]

which rads?

check out xtremerigs 2016 radiator roundup

and thermalbench vsg

[limpid quest]

thick rads are generally less restrictive than thin ones

[glacial spindle]

I was looking at Thermaltake Pacific

[steady agate]

thoughts on me making a custom loop in the thermalbake oven

Check this out on @Newegg: Thermaltake Tower 100 Black Edition Tempered Glass Type-C (USB 3.1 Gen 2) Mini Tower Computer Chassis Supports Mini-ITX, CA-1R3-00S1WN-00 https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-tower-100-black-edition-mini-tower/p/N82E16811133443?Item=N82E16811133443&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-133-443-_-09172021

[shrewd juniper]

Awful .....

[steady agate]

ok, 109 dollars out the window

[shrewd juniper]

Up to 1 120mm rad

[glacial spindle]

what is a cooling block v. a radiator? I imagine radiators are much more effective?

[magic wave]

that looks like something you would put against a heat producing item

and then hook up hoses to it, and loop it with a radiator

[marsh badge]

^

[brisk rain]

Yeah

You could probably also use it to increase the thermal mass of a loop, but that's probably not very useful in most cases

[glacial spindle]

ahh okay thanks for explanation

[scenic osprey]

are ll120 good as radiator fans?

[marsh badge]

I would suggest arctic P12 rgb instead, they're a lot cheaper

But yes those fans are decent, just not cheap

[scenic osprey]

ok

[left schooner]

Not sure where to ask this, but when it comes to cleaning dust out of my computer, could I use an air compressor? I heard that vacuum is really bad (although I have used one on it before) and I can’t buy canned air right now. Or is a rag good enough? Any suggestions appreciated

[knotty sparrow]

An air compressor is fine but not too powerful

I use a handheld electric one

If it's a powerful one a wide nozzle will help keep it from messing things up with pressure

[left schooner]

My dad has a big one that has a adjustable valve that we blow soccer balls up with so it can’t be that powerful

Oh okay Ill see what we have

Also, my two fans are currently both intake, could I switch one to intake (and put a dust screen) to help cut down on dust?

Correction; they’re both blowing out

[knotty sparrow]

They're both exhaust then? It depends on your case but in general this airflow pattern is ideal

If they're both top fans move one to the front as intake

[left schooner]

I have an nzxt h510 😭 so a front intake is difficult

There is a grate on the front side, but not really ideal

[left schooner]

Yes, both exhaust

[knotty sparrow]

Pop the front panel a little off so there's a gap to pull air in on the front bottom slot. H510 is just bad in general.

[left schooner]

Hmm

[left schooner]

I know h510 is bad but when I bought it, I didn’t know, and a friend recommended it cause of easy cable management. Wish I’d gotten the fractal meshify c or something

[knotty sparrow]

I've got the meshify C right now but I seem to have outgrown it... Great case though

[left schooner]

Outgrown it in what way?

[knotty sparrow]

I'm going to build a custom loop because my GPU came with a 240 rad, and I already had my CPU on a 240 rad

[amber glacier]

Yeah, I wish I got a O11 Dynamic instead of my Phanteks P500

The P500 is fine, but a larger case is much more flexible...

[marsh badge]

O11D is only better when you're doing custom loops lol

It sucks for air cooling

[amber glacier]

yeah I want to build a custom loop :/

but it's actually a good thing because it would be mildly irresponsible for me to spend money on that right now...

[shrewd juniper]

I dont think you can pop the front panel off of the h510 think it's all one piece

[rose isle]

yup, its part of the chasis

[marsh badge]

wow

well it's time to dremel it

[magic wave]

wipe the dust out of the side vents lol

if the front panel is part of the chassis wouldn't it be impossible to get rgb fans in there on the outside part of the chassis

[rose isle]

No one mounts the fans on the outside. And theres a difference between the vanilla H510 (solid front) and H510 Elite (glass front)

[cinder falcon]

Says you.

I had to Mount 120mm fans on the outside of a case once since it only took 90mm fans and dude was saying it made too much noise.

Didn’t want to buy 90 mm fans because my boss had yelled at me for not fixing it.

So he has a outside mounted fan.

[rose isle]

We talking about a specific case, my dude 😆

[cinder falcon]

Lmfao. Fair enough.

[rose isle]

https://nzxt.com/product/h510

this one

[magic wave]

ah yeah the solid front

but it's easy to mount on the outside, pop off the front panel (on a case that has one that can pop off) mount them on theoutside and then close it up

[rose isle]

All NZXT need to do is release a version with a fine mesh front.

[magic wave]

not gonna happen

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[marsh badge]

yep

cause mesh = looks worse to em

[bronze cobalt]

thoughts on the h510 elite?

[rose isle]

no.

[bronze cobalt]

why

[rose isle]

bad cooling. cooks your pc

[bronze cobalt]

dosent it have 2 140 mm fans at the front doe

[rose isle]

it does, but nowhere to pull fresh air from for those fans

[bronze cobalt]

yeh thats true

its glass at the front

[rose isle]

yup

as a rule, try stay away from any case that has a glass front with fans behind it

[bronze cobalt]

what do u think is a good case im trying to help my friend with his first build

[magic wave]

would they mind using micro atx hardware

[bronze cobalt]

sure

[magic wave]

thermaltake versa h18 tg is a decent case

it's like a small version of the core g21

[bronze cobalt]

looks nice

[magic wave]

for a first build matx makes sense, cheaper stuff

[bronze cobalt]

ill watch gamers nexus review on it

if he has one

[magic wave]

not for the h18, the core g21 does tho

the only downside of the core g21 is probably too many mesh layers

versa h18, the front panel gets in the way of 140mm fans and only has one top 140mm slot

they only come with one fan, so buying extra will have to be factored in

I bought 2x arctic p14s with the h18

it has some niceties aside from the downsides, all the slot covers at the back are proper slot covers, not pop-outs

and it comes with meshes for every intake that can be removed

not many cable tie points

that's about it really, it's a good case

[rose isle]

whats the budget? whats the rest of the build?

[rose isle]

nice

[shrewd juniper]

OVERPRICED OVEN

[shrewd juniper]

The corsair 4000x is a much better performer if you must have a glass front

[magic wave]

massive chutes for air either side of the panel

or isit different in 4000x

oh it's the same basically

[shrewd juniper]

Metallicgear neo, cougar mx330 air for good cheaper options, phanteks p400a or corsair 4000d airflow for more premium ones

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah actually leaves some room for air lol

[pure sparrow]

$70, thoughts?

[shrewd juniper]

no real testing on it, spend another 15 and get the best 240 aio

arctic liquid

[marsh badge]

^

[oak hawk]

yo anyone got the H15oi elite capellix

I need some help with the rgb

[rose isle]

I dont have the cooler, but I do have Corsair fans. whats you issue?

[leaden hollow]

Don't cheap out on cooling

[pure sparrow]

What about the Kraken x63?

[low pumice]

x63 sad

freezer ii neat

[pure sparrow]

@low pumice ?

This one

[knotty sparrow]

That's the 280mm model, yeah

[pure sparrow]

Is there a significant performance difference between the 240 and 280 model?

Bc the 240 model is $20 less

[knotty sparrow]

If you're overclocking, the larger radiator and fans help with heat.
If you're not, then the 240 is plenty.

[pure sparrow]

Yeah im not planning on cpu oc

Only gpu

@knotty sparrow the aio is compatible with the 10100f correct?

[knotty sparrow]

Absolutely. You don't even need to liquid cool that chip, too. Unless you're planning to upgrade later or you want it for looks.

[pure sparrow]

But would liquid cooling it make a large performance difference?

[knotty sparrow]

Not with that cpu

[pure sparrow]

Alr

[shrewd juniper]

You would be better off using that money for a 10400(f) and a 30$ air cooler like an id cooling se 224xt

[pure sparrow]

Doesnt the cpu come with a cooler?

[shrewd juniper]

Yes but you'd have enough to spend on a better cooler cuz the stock cooler is meh

[pure sparrow]

This one good?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah, the black/white ones have a slightly better fan that will last longer for an extra 3$ or so but whichever works

[pure sparrow]

@shrewd juniper this one?

Bc i see 2 different options

Theres the basic version and the standard

[shrewd juniper]

Ye

Or there's a white one

If you please

[sacred wren]

What if I thank you

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

[scenic osprey]

can you switch fans on the licuid freezer 2 240mm?

[shrewd juniper]

pretty sure you can but why would you lol

[knotty sparrow]

Comes with arctic p12 fans, some of the best. If you want rgb they have that too.

[kind lichen]

is the Deepcool AS500 good enough for i7-10700kf???????

[knotty sparrow]

Reviews say yes provided you have good case airflow

[shrewd juniper]

I would just grab a peerless assassin 120 at the least but ideally a scythe fuma 2

[left schooner]

Would it be safe to clean the dust out of my computer with a vacuum if I didn’t let it touch anything?

[magic wave]

use a dust blower in combination with a vacuum

vacuums are really terrible at picking up dust on their own

[steady agate]

wdym 'at the least' scythe isn't better

excpet for ram clearance

[shrewd juniper]

Isn't it?

[steady agate]

no

[shrewd juniper]

I thought scythe was bit better?

[steady agate]

if the fs140 beats the scythe, and the pa120 beats the fs140 then logic dictates

[shrewd juniper]

Oh yeah ram clearance on the pa120 aint greay

[steady agate]

*(on intel IHS)

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh yes it performs quite diff for intel ihs forgot

[steady agate]

although for AMD IHS fs140 is vetter

[left schooner]

Thanks

[shrewd juniper]

Gotcha

[shrewd juniper]

What's fs140 stand for again?

[steady agate]

frost spirit 140

[shrewd juniper]

I'll keep that in mind thanks

[chrome summit]

I just bought a 360 aio and installed it, I’m finding that my gpu won’t fit with the tubes on the bottom and must flip it, is this fine to have the tubes at the top

It’ll only be about 1 1/2” to 2” above the pump

[knotty sparrow]

It's fine, as long as the top of the radiator is above the cpu block

[covert apex]

https://youtu.be/2GXNgPSBq8g

[glacial spindle]

I have the following parts: 1-360mm copper rad; 1-140m copper rad; 1-1260L/hr pump; 1-250L/hr pump; 2-reservoirs
I want to cool a 3070 (EK quantum waterblock) & a 10900K (Corsair waterblock)
Was thinking 250L/hr pump w/ 140mm rad as one system & 1260L/hr pump w/ 360mm rad for 10900K.

Willl a single 140mm rad cool GPU sufficiently?

Problem is my case (H500P Mesh) supports a 360 on top & a 360 on the front but if I get another 360 for the front, no cool air comes into case

[chrome summit]

Thanks have it up and running, should I run the pump on pwm or dc?

[knotty sparrow]

If it's a 3 pin connector, DC. If it's a 4 pin, PWM.

[chrome summit]

awesome, also my front three fans on my radiator, plugged into sys_fan 4 5 6, are not spinning, could this be due to them being in dc and the system running the other fans at 500rpm?

[glacial spindle]

go to BIOS & press F6

see what fan curves are set at & if the Fan off check box is checked

[waxen vault]

i buy cooling pads for the rgb not the cooling

[chrome summit]

figured it out, i had the 4 pin fans set to dc so they werent getting enough voltage under dc to spin

[glacial spindle]

Hmm I could've sworn my 4-pin fans go to 100% if I use voltage instead of PWM

maybe that's when 3-pin are set to PWM

[steady agate]

tldr dont pay 50 bucks for a tiny u12s

[low pumice]

tldr u12s is better than vetroo v5

[steady agate]

no tldr you can buy an fs140 for the same price as a u12s

[low pumice]

tldr need steve to review more coolers

[steady agate]

tldr steve will soon find a bomb in his mailbox

[sacred wren]

Ooh fun

[steady agate]

"once the timer reaches ten, you will have to submit proof of testing at least 5 more relevant coolers"

[rose isle]

Theyre building new studio. Gonna be even more scientific.

[steady agate]

[sacred wren]

Love when someone is tryna mine on a laptop and it's at 88c and I tell them they can't mine without a cooling pad and they go "but i really want to mine"

Like

Your laptop will die

Nothing you really wanna do will change that

[shrewd juniper]

88c is actually fine, not good but fine lol

[marsh badge]

^

What matters is vram temp

Sips even mines on his msi lappy

[sacred wren]

Yeah and if core is that hot while mining eth, the mem is going to be much hotter

[marsh badge]

depends on which gpu

gddr5 doesn't run so hot

[sacred wren]

It's gddr6

[marsh badge]

nor does 6 tbh

but it's possible

[shrewd juniper]

Probs not good for long term tho

[marsh badge]

ye

[oblique kiln]

anyone know a rgb spread fan thats decent and cheap (120mm)

[sacred wren]

maybe artic p12 rgb? i think i've seen pato suggest it before

[low pumice]

p12 is good fan

p12 rgb is p12 with rgb

[oblique kiln]

Kk thx

[proper cradle]

Can the liquid in the aio freeze if it gets too cold

[brisk rain]

Yes

That's usually pretty darn cold though

[magic wave]

not too easy

it's probably got a lower freezing temp than water?

[proper cradle]

I was thing about putting my pc outside when winter came around

[brisk rain]

Corsair lists storage temps down to -20°C

Looking for operating temps

Operating temps rated down to 5°C

[proper cradle]

Ah

[steady agate]

@idle tiger ok you cool with liquid nitrogen right

i am very very interested

like how you do it, the process, how much it costs

know any good sources for this

[idle tiger]

Check out buildzoid, luumi, antitux on youtube/twitch. Hwbot forums/discord.

[unique lily]

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[amber glacier]

So I managed to get ahold of a 3080 hydrocopper, but I don't have a custom loop to plug into. Any recommendations on building a mini-loop for it?

Somebody recommended the Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme which has a pump/reservoir/radiator/fan combo which seems really nice. Anybody have experience with this and can confirm that I can remove the fittings from the CPU block and put it onto the hydrocopper?
https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/kits-systems-and-aios/all-in-one-cpu/23334/alphacool-eisbaer-extreme-liquid-cpu-cooler-280-black-edition?c=21441

Also concerns about mixing aluminum and copper components. The hydrocopper is, I assume, copper (duh), but I can't find details about the Eisbaer Extreme. The housing is aluminum, and the CPU block is copper, but I don't know what the radiator itself is made of (hopefully not aluminum)

(feel free to @ me with a reply)

[idle tiger]

You could probably get a pump, res, rad for under 300