old-cooling

[glass otter]

@shrewd juniper that’s a good point

Does positive or negative case pressure really matter that much

[shrewd juniper]

Thanks lol

[shrewd juniper]

Positive pressure is best if possible, less dust build up

[glass otter]

Hm then should the fan on the back be intake too and then the two top are exhaust? @glass otter

@shrewd juniper

Pinged myself lol

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh i would just not use the one at the back to avoid dust, but if you hardly have any dust or pet hair you will be fine with negative pressure

[timid carbon]

what case you got?

@glass otter

[glacial sequoia]

well a few months ago I had some cooling issues, I believe I figured them out maybe

-incoming poor diagram-

Which way should my fans be blowing on my AIO? Currently they go like this

Should they be going like this?

Which one is correct, red or blue?

[dull ridge]

Hi, I am using air cooling for my pc. My case has three 120 mm intake fans at the front, one 120mm exhaust fan at the rear, and three 120 mm exhaust fan at the top. Would this creates a negative pressure? Should I remove one of the top exhaust fan?

[low pumice]

Would suggest blue.

[low pumice]

It would be negative pressure, but you could also manually set the exhaust fans to lower rpm through the fan curve if you like

[shrewd juniper]

This

[shrewd juniper]

I would remove the top front or back exhaust

[dull ridge]

How should I adjust the rpm so that the case can be neutral ?

[low pumice]

It would be a lot less of the scientific method and more of just reducing it by say 20% and it should work

[dull ridge]

Got it

[scenic fjord]

whats a good aio for my ryzen 7 3700x

[shrewd juniper]

arctic liquid ii 240mm/280mm/360mm or lian li galahad or ek aio rgb

[scenic fjord]

is the kraken z73 just for aesthetics

[timid carbon]

Pretty much

Not a good aio

[shrewd juniper]

ek will have one with a screen but not for another few months :(

[scenic fjord]

oh the ek nucleus kinda of expensive but cheaper then z73

[timid carbon]

Performs better as well

[scenic fjord]

but it coming out in october

[rose isle]

The "screen on the block" thing is kinda dumb, imho

[shrewd juniper]

I mean if people like it and are willing to pay the price for it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rose isle]

imho

[shrewd juniper]

Ik yeah lol just saying to each their own, not for me tho lol

[timid carbon]

Id rather hook a small sensor screen to a pi or something and get an arctic freezer ii

[rose isle]

freakin this!

[languid gale]

Ooh that screen idea is a good one

[rose isle]

lots of good tutorials on youtube. Jay and BPS customs is ones id check out

[unique lily]

VictorMikeAlpha#2394 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rose isle]

sorry, wrong chat

[languid gale]

I’ll definitely look into when I get back home

[tulip matrix]

Is the Noctua NH-L9i chromax black cpu cooler is good for an 8th gen I5 on a LGA1151 socket?

[shrewd juniper]

No

Vetroo v5 id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400

[ivory sluice]

whats a temperature control fan

and can i disable it

[edgy marlin]

I’m looking at the Corsair H115i elite (black), and in some pics the rgb is minimal on the pump head, and in others it covers the whole pump. Which is it? Does it do both? The white version has the box picture of the full pump but not the black.

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh should just be the speed of the fan is determined by the temperature of your cpu like?

[shrewd juniper]

Don't get a corsair aio, they are mehh, get an arctic freezer (rgb) or ek rgb or lian li Galahad

[topaz blaze]

is a Kraken X53 240mm enough for a i7-10700k

[shrewd juniper]

Nzxt make mediocre coolers, get an arctic liquid freezer ii or ek aio or lian li galahad if you want an aio, but an air cooler like scythe fuma 2 is the best cooler on a budget for that cpu

[high stag]

Yo guys i have a question

is 75 degrees celcius bad for a gpu

[uncut kindle]

is this under load?

if it is then it's fine for a gpu

[high stag]

whats under load

and how much do I put my power limit to when overclocking

[uncut kindle]

Is ur gpu working hard

or are u like just in ur desktop screen

[high stag]

im in fortnite

[uncut kindle]

yea

then it's working

75 degrees is fine

for a gpu

[high stag]

ok whats too much like 90?

[uncut kindle]

yea about that

[high stag]

ok so im fine

[uncut kindle]

yes

[high stag]

how do I overclock

[uncut kindle]

no clue

dont ask me lmao

just go to msi afterburner and use the slider ig

it's easier than cpu overclocking im pretty sure

[shrewd juniper]

For a gpu imo 85c is where i would start to worry

[shrewd juniper]

Your gpu? https://youtu.be/cqshaJTI8FQ here's a simple tutorial

[lucid walrus]

hi

i need expert advice

did you ever heard about cryorig coolers

[shrewd juniper]

Nope

Why?

[rose isle]

yes

[lucid walrus]

is it better than noctua

[rose isle]

look up Gamers Nexus on YouTube, I think they did some testing

[lucid walrus]

nothing about Cryorig R1 Ultimate

[shrewd juniper]

@lucid walrus what budget and what cpu?

[lucid walrus]

its the most expensive air cooler in the world

for 5900x

ultimate budget

[shrewd juniper]

@lucid walrus get the arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm then

Or if you have a huge case get the 420mm version if case supports it

[lucid walrus]

whats better for cooling: air or aio

and longer life

[shrewd juniper]

It depends on the model

[languid gale]

Life probably air

[shrewd juniper]

But good aios are better than good air coolers

But the Arctic liquid ii has a 8 year warranty anyway

[languid gale]

I thought it was 5

[lucid walrus]

i'm not not in the mood with leaks and things like that.

[shrewd juniper]

8

Leaks are very rare with good aios

[lucid walrus]

arcitc is cheap

[shrewd juniper]

It is

Well cheapish

It's like 120$ great deal

[lucid walrus]

thermaltake is the most expensive

[shrewd juniper]

It's literally the best performing auo

[lucid walrus]

more expensive = better quality

[shrewd juniper]

Doesn't mean crap tbh

[shrewd juniper]

No

[languid gale]

Lmao nope

[lucid walrus]

prove it

[shrewd juniper]

@lucid walrus https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3571-arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-cooler-review-benchmark

[lucid walrus]

its like comparing toyota with rolls royce

tell NG to review this too

https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/floe-dx-rgb-360-tt-premium-edition.html

[shrewd juniper]

It's not

[lucid walrus]

at least you could suggest ekwb coolers

[shrewd juniper]

This is just mediocre bro if you don't wanna listen to us that's fine but

[languid gale]

Lmao I’m literally dumbfounded rn, you come in here asking for advice then 💩on it because “it ain’t expensive”

[shrewd juniper]

Eks aio is the 2nd best, you asked for the best

[lucid walrus]

so whats first

[languid gale]

Best is Arctic

Quick life advice, if you keep up that attitude you won’t go far

[shrewd juniper]

I told you, arctic

[lucid walrus]

what about be quiet corsair nzxt cooler master

[languid gale]

NZXT and Corsair SUCK

You’re paying for the name

[lucid walrus]

and BQ

[shrewd juniper]

Bq aios are fine

But meh

[lucid walrus]

how come that arctic is so cheap & good!

its like saying xiaomi is better than apple

[languid gale]

For some needs xiaomi actually is

[lucid walrus]

xiaomi has built-in malware that shows ads

& downloads malwares on the phone

[shrewd juniper]

Because arctic make all their stuff and they are good so sell lots and they are cheap in comparison to some other aios, ek and lian li galahad are only 30$ more

[languid gale]

Doesn’t Corsair just buy the AIOs and rebrand them?

[lucid walrus]

from who

[languid gale]

Asetek I think

NZXT also buys from Asetek

[lucid walrus]

msi too

[raven summit]

What do you guys think is the best cooler that money can buy? Just curious

[shrewd juniper]

arctic liquid ii 420mm

[raven summit]

Yeah that's what I figured. I'm surprised it's so cheap too

[shrewd juniper]

yeah, im pretty sure 420mm is out of stock but 360mm is still pretty good lol

[raven summit]

What even is the difference between 360 and 420. They both have 3 fans

[shrewd juniper]

120mm fans vs 140mm fans

[raven summit]

Ohh

[low pumice]

evga roboclocker >:D
technically not yet available but well

[twilit abyss]

lmao

i think linus did a video on a cooler a few years back, it was like a supercooled gas cooler and it kept the cpu sub zero i think

loud as fuk tho

yea, whatever this thing was

[boreal sphinx]

Might be ln2 aio or something

[low pumice]

roboclocker is the ln2 aio

that looks like phase change cooling?

[topaz blaze]

after putting on a intel stock cooler can you take it off after a few months?

[low pumice]

you can

just remember to cleanly remove the paste

stock paste is usually not great and sticky

[topaz blaze]

Alr thanks

[idle tiger]

That's a single stage phase change cooler, and anything that small is only going to be useful for a core 2 duo or something.

They were more common back then

[heavy breach]

lol i have a R5 3600 being cooled by an MSI Coreliquid 360R cuz im gonna upgrade to a R5 5600x soon

[pulsar raft]

my rtx 3080 fe runs @ 83c under 100% loan in a sffpc case its has a small overclock
was wondering if thats okay or too hot

[magic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/vlogs-television-guy-points-up-points-gif-16679317

[shrewd juniper]

Emm imo no, but 83c is okay, I'd worry at about 85-90c, you could always undervolt, which can help temps a lot btw

[magic wave]

I unlinked power limit and temp I think? in afterburner on my 970 and it lowered the temp from 80 to 70 by clocking down to the base clock

Not a noticable drop in performance I don't think but it's factory overclocked like a lot of OEM cards seem to be

[boreal sphinx]

83 is the max temp the gpu is alowed by default on most gpus ...
More then that the gpu drops clocks to keep temp down so if you are losing performance no its not good

[pulsar raft]

I lost about 3 fps in games

[pulsar raft]

I lost 3 fps in games

[shrewd juniper]

Wdym you lost 3fps?

[marsh badge]

3 fps lost could just be margin of error

[pulsar raft]

When my overclock is running and after using it under 100% load

[shrewd juniper]

Then you need to slightly step back your oc, there's a degradation point where you can get higher clocks but it can perform worse

Also like foxy said could be margin of error

[pulsar raft]

What do u mean margin of error?

[marsh badge]

you can't always get exact same fps figure

cause it's not constant

so a few fps missing or adding could just be within that margin of error

[edgy marlin]

The ek aio rgb says it comes with ek vardar S fans, though when I go to ek’s site, they don’t have the model of fan. The closest I can find ( looks exactly the same and has the same rpm range) is the vardar EVO 120ER. Anyone know where I can buy the model S. If not, will the EVO be close enough to the fabled model S preinstalled on their AIO?

[shrewd juniper]

If you want to use the exact same fans as the ek aio, get the ek aio elite, it comes with 6 fans, it's supposed to be used as push pull but you can use the other 3 as case fans

[edgy marlin]

Awesome, thanks again pato, two very useful bits of info in 2 days

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[edgy marlin]

Wait a sec, I need the 240mm aio, won’t that come with 4 fans instead of 6?

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh ehh, can you not fit the 360 in your case?

Also don't think there's an elite 240mm

[edgy marlin]

Ig I could put it in front

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah i would

360 is miles better

[edgy marlin]

But it would pull in heat I think

Ig I’ll just have to get some good exhaust

[shrewd juniper]

Front 360 is better than top 240mm

[edgy marlin]

Got it, mount it pipes top right?

[shrewd juniper]

Nah, it's not needed lol, just whatever exhaust you were going to do

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh yeah

[edgy marlin]

Thanks again!

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[molten talon]

What's a good low profile CPU cooler for an i7 4790

[topaz blaze]

@molten talon Check this out on @Newegg: Noctua NH-L9i chromax.black, Low-Profile CPU Cooler for Intel LGA115x (Black) https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-l9i-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-001H7?Item=9SIAADYA5G8110&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAADYA5G8110-_-07102021

Can anybody help me find a waterblock that makes contact with the vram and mosfets for a 1080fe
There's a universal one on the ek website that will fit but it doesn't actively cool the memory or the mosfets

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't worry about the ram on the 1080 getting hot, the mosfets, tho would be nice to have contact

[shrewd juniper]

Nh l12s

[topaz blaze]

@shrewd juniper I know that gddr5x doesnt get all that hot at the frequency the 1080 runs it at, but I've never seen one for any card that cools the mossfets and not the vram

[shrewd juniper]

That's fair

Idk how hot the mosfets get but there's a chance it's not needed at all

[topaz blaze]

Idk I just don't trust the fe cards
The gpu hotspot temp on this card was 96°c at stock speed with the stock fan curve

And. I know that's technically within spec and that it doesn't necessarily reflect build quality but I'd rather not leave it to chance.

[shrewd juniper]

That's just stock fan curves being wack most likely

[topaz blaze]

I know but temps like that on the components with active cooling makes me worry about passively cooling components a few cm away

[shrewd juniper]

Fair, you could always undervolt

[molten talon]

That's what I went with

[shrewd juniper]

Tbh the Nh l12s has more cooling capacity if you can deal with the slightly higher profile, but that one will do i suppose

[molten talon]

I need the really low profile, it's replacing a cooler in a prebuilt for a family member

[low pumice]

nh-l12 is fairly low profile too, if you could check specific dimensions

[shrewd juniper]

The l12 or l12s should still fit in even some itx cases soo

[molten talon]

The cables in it are atrocious and the I12 would not be able to fit

[shrewd juniper]

What bout l12s?

[molten talon]

The I12 has a slightly too large profile for that prebuilt

[stone nimbus]

Are the Lian Li AL120 fans any good?

[topaz blaze]

Yes but they're stupid expensive and there's cheaper ones that perform just as well or better

[shrewd juniper]

Just get arctic p12 rgb

[topaz blaze]

I have the Arctic R34 eSports duo
It's got two of the p12 bionix fans on it
Best CPU cooler I've ever used, cpu temps under load are 6° below the 240mm Corsair aio I was using before at the same clock speed

I know much of it is due to the heat pipes and fin stack but I'm sure the fans have something to do with it too

[shrewd juniper]

Decent cooler yeah, well corsair doesn't make great coolers, and 240mm is kinda meh, 280mm and 360mm way better

[molten talon]

Should I go from my current H100i 240mm to either a custom loop or 360mm aio

[shrewd juniper]

I would, but only if the 240mm isn't doing the job for you, otherwise leave it till you upgrade cpu

[molten talon]

My i9 boosts to 5.5ghz for whatever reason and the 240mm cant keep up

[magic wave]

i9 said "we're taking it to 11 whether you like it or not" while sweating its pants off

[fallen plover]

looking to get something better than a stock cooler, any advices? it would be to cool an i7 9700k

i was looking at noctua nhd15

[magic wave]

be quiet! Pure Rock 2, Dark Rock Slim, Shadow Rock 3

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Edition

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

[fallen plover]

what

[magic wave]

you asked and I delivered

[fallen plover]

oh

sorry im slow today

thank you got the advice 🙂 ill do some research

[magic wave]

it okay :^)

[topaz blaze]

While I wait for my gpu waterblock, may I ask anyone who has a 3080ti or anyone who knows what the optimal temperature for a 3080ti under load is?

by using the msi afterburner auto fan curve I got the temperature down by like 5 degrees but it is still running at like 75 - 85 degrees underload in pretty much anygame

[boreal sphinx]

Its fine temps

I would rather try to keep it under 80 tho

[obtuse cedar]

Optimal? Very cold, unreasonably cold. Anything under 83C fine though

[topaz blaze]

yeah 75 is when I play games like valorant but if I play something like mw it goes straight to 85

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2

[shrewd juniper]

I would swap out for an arctic liquid ii 360 then

[shrewd juniper]

What does your fan curve look like? And case airflow? You can set the temp limit to 83c or always undervolt

[topaz blaze]

I have the temp limit at 85, I took the side panel off because it was getting too hot, and the fan curve is the msi automatic fan control config

[shrewd juniper]

Then fix your fan config, aibs are usually wack at stock fan curves

Set the limit to 83c btw as well

[molten talon]

Pre production unit likes to do what it wants

[magic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/shiftmaster-kung-fu-gear-shift-karate-driver-gif-17345116

[molten talon]

P much

[tropic mural]

Hey I’m wandering what are some really good fans in white under like 40 bucks

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12, the 5 pack is like 43$ or like 8$ each

[tropic mural]

K thx

[covert garden]

can anybody recommend some good white rgb fans please

that are a bit budget

oh and does anybody know if the fans are good on this case

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YNdrxr/phanteks-eclipse-p360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dwt

[shrewd juniper]

P360a is nice case yeah

[knotty sparrow]

How normal is it for these old socket 775 processors to be glued to the heatsink? Any suggestions getting it off? My smallest flat head doesn't fit between.

[idle tiger]

Looks like a socket 478. Heat the heat sink

Twisting it won't get it off?

[knotty sparrow]

Good idea. Twisting it didn't budge.

It probably is a 478, the new one is 775 that's where I got mixed up

[idle tiger]

775 is LGA yeah

[knotty sparrow]

Heat gun got it off. What purpose does the hole in the lid serve? Seems weird.

[idle tiger]

On the ihs? Common on soldered chips, to let gas escape during the process

[twilit abyss]

intel with pins 👀

[knotty sparrow]

Yes it's an old Pentium 4, one of the first chips that had hyperthreading.

[scenic fjord]

For my lian li galahand the rgb doesn't show up but the pump are vibrating and kinda of warm is my aio working?

[knotty sparrow]

Probably working, yes. How are your temps? If you're not hitting 100C under load then it's working.
The RGB not working is probably just a connection somewhere to the board or controller.

[scenic fjord]

oooh im hitting 60 but im not playing games but im just testing to see if it works so the fans arent on right now

[knotty sparrow]

The fans are kinda a critical part of the cooling system and it'll eventually overheat without them

Even at idle

[rocky oasis]

Could geek squad attach water cooling

[low pumice]

Custom loop? I doubt the people working there would have experience with custom loop, but aio you can just install yourself.

[scenic fjord]

oh ty i just fixed it and also i over clocked cpu

[next burrow]

I want to get a 11600k, someone recommend me a good cooler for it. I know its overkill for a b560

[languid gale]

I wouldn’t use a K cpu in a B560

[languid gale]

Geek squad is honestly pretty bad, bestbuy just hires people off the street and throws them into geek squad

[topaz blaze]

If you have a microcenter near you I've heard they do commissions for like 150 and they aren't too bad

[raven summit]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sZgKj2 Any advice on what cooler I should use

[shrewd juniper]

I mean id cooling se 224xt is nice but scythe fuma 2 for a 6 chip, soooo you're gonna have a fun time redoing that XD

[raven summit]

fuma 2 overpried

kek

do i have enough coolers

[shrewd juniper]

No it's not lol

[shrewd juniper]

Moar

[raven summit]

pcpp broken they won't let me add more

phillip fix ur stupid site

[shrewd juniper]

Sad

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/philip-the-office-kevinmalone-phillipkevin-phillip-gif-16305592

[raven summit]

Will my computer freeze from underheating

I might need to remove some coolers

[low pumice]

most things coldbug at like -100c or lower

[shrewd juniper]

They're trollin, bout 20 id cooling se 224s on a 10600k b460 kek

[low pumice]

lmao

[shrewd juniper]

20 se 224s, ln2 potato pot-ay-toe

[raven summit]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JCG2V6P?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&pldnSite=1 This seems pretty good

[low pumice]

no decent testing = no recommendation from us >:p

[raven summit]

https://youtu.be/lXxrqlvnI2c

[low pumice]

exactly

random guy

[raven summit]

??

[low pumice]

aresgame is known to pay reviewers for reviews afaik

[low pumice]

I'm talking like TPU, guru3d, anandtech, gamers nexus, testing by those guys

not some random guy that may not have good testing methodology, or have been paid to say what they say

[raven summit]

Didn't know aresgame paid people to give positive reviews

[low pumice]

:p

[raven summit]

Most people just run cinebench tests

[low pumice]

exactly

that is not good for testing coolers

burst load that isn't even consistent

[raven summit]

then wtf do people use

[low pumice]

@raven summit Just take a look at this first
https://youtu.be/fmTOJP4KOyk

half an hour blender is pretty common to see

or like half an hour aida64 fpu

or half an hour p95

[covert apex]

Aresgame literally just gives away PSUs as review samples with barely anything

I had 600+ followers on insta and they sent me a PSU

I wonder if I could get them to send me one of those coolers

[covert garden]

guys

i need a single 120 mm white fan that's kind of cheap with rgb can anyone reccomend one

[marsh badge]

white, rgb and cheap

well good luck lookin

[shrewd juniper]

Pay is a strong word when half the time it's only bribed with mousepads :p

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12 is cheap good and white and has an rgb variant but it's black, deal with no rgb or get black fans imo

[coral sandal]

will i have cooling issues?
case: 4000d airflow
gpu: 3070 ti
cpu: 11700 k
aio: MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
then 3 120 mm corsair fans

[shrewd juniper]

No technically but don't get that aio, it's meh, get an arctic liquid freezer ii 280mm or 360mm or lian li galahad 360mm or ek 360mm, also don't get the 11700k it's just a more expensive worse sometimes 10700k

[coral sandal]

too late but thank you

had to choose from a certain set of options the way i bought it thru newegg

[shrewd juniper]

I see

[coral sandal]

will prob upgrade to 360mm corsair aio down the line i think those are good

[shrewd juniper]

Nah, they're just fine, the 3 listed above are around the same price and they are the 3 best aios

[topaz blaze]

my cpu cooler wasnt seated properly so i took it off and i put it back on correctly

would i need to reapply thermal paste?

or would it be alright

because it was a new cooler

[shrewd juniper]

If it's a new cooler it's fine ye

[small wing]

What’s a 360mm aio

[shrewd juniper]

It's an all in one liquid cooler with 3 120mm fans on top of a radiator that is roughly 12cm x 36cm

[small wing]

Oh dang I just got back on disc I Typed it wrong I meant what’s a good 360mm aio

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh lol nb, arctic liquid freezer, ek aio or lian li Galahad

[stiff copper]

Is the Lian Li Galahad good, I plan on getting one to put in my o11 mini

[shrewd juniper]

Yes it's a top 3 aio

[stiff copper]

I heard you could do a little mod on the o11d to fit a 360mm rad, is it worth it or should i just do a 240

[languid gale]

It ain’t really possible with an ATX board tho

From what I read depending on the board it blocks off the 8 pin CPU

[shrewd juniper]

Think the o11d doesn't need a mod to fit a 360mm

[stiff copper]

I mean the mini

[shrewd juniper]

Do you already have the mini?

[stiff copper]

It’s in the mail

[shrewd juniper]

Rip, i would just get a scythe fuma 2 instead of an aio, 240mms are fine but meh bout the same as air

[lavish geyser]

I’m reviewing the material that came with my EK AIO and it appears to recommend the pump orientation having the tubes on the right side of the case/CPU

I haven’t tested for fit and that will probably work. But in case it doesn’t are there any problems with rotating it? In any scenario the tank/rad is top-mounted and will stay there so that’s not a concern

[shrewd juniper]

Nope as long as you don't bottom mount your rad it's fine lol

[lavish geyser]

Is the pump a perfect square? Or is it a rectangle(where there would only be two possibly mounting options)

[knotty sparrow]

Which EK is it exactly? They have a couple different blocks

[lavish geyser]

It’s the EK 360mm AIO D-RGB

I can grab a link if you want

[knotty sparrow]

Nah I can look it up

[shrewd juniper]

It's rounded square afaik

[knotty sparrow]

The block itself is a rounded square yes, I'm looking at the mounting hardware to see if it's just the 2 possible positions

[shrewd juniper]

Ahhh

[lavish geyser]

Thank you

I tried looking myself and didn’t find a definitive answer

[knotty sparrow]

Looks like the tubes can only go on 2 sides, left or right

Even though the manual is confused and shows them on top at one point

[lavish geyser]

Ok so the “desired” orientation is probably the only one I’ll be able to make work. I’ll fiddle with it later when I finish up assembly

[knotty sparrow]

You can turn the tubes so they can point up or down but that's about it

[lavish geyser]

Yeah I’m gonna need to turn them a bit to make it fit

The tubes are flexible enough but my case isn’t massive so getting them to make the turn is a little tough

[knotty sparrow]

The good thing is once it's in place you don't need to touch it ever again until you need to change the case or something

[lavish geyser]

Yeah for sure

I disassembled my old build last night before setting this up and removed my old Corsair H100i v2 AIO

Crazy difference in build quality

EK >>>> Corsair

[knotty sparrow]

Big time. EK is one of the best when it comes to water cooling.

[lavish geyser]

Glad @shrewd juniper recommended it 😄

[shrewd juniper]

:)

[knotty sparrow]

Yep, he knows what's up around here

[topaz blaze]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-eSports-DUO-Configuration/dp/B0846LPTLD/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=esports%2Bcooler&qid=1626473291&sr=8-3&th=1 would this be able to cool an i7 10700 well?

[knotty sparrow]

If you don't overclock and turn on the power limits yeah.
If you want to leave power limits off check out the scythe fuma 2.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07QMK5R45

[next burrow]

Guys any fans that are equally good or better than the p12 or p14 pwm pst co but with rgb?

[shrewd juniper]

Not really, lian li unifans are good but not worth the 100 for 3 fans

[next burrow]

What about stella fans

Gelid stella > p12 pwm pst co

[shrewd juniper]

They're not as good afaik

Not much info on them

[low pumice]

uh

[shrewd juniper]

What's up?

[low pumice]

wat

I would really like to see the source if there is a source for that

[shrewd juniper]

P12 are literally one of the best fans

[sacred wren]

I'm thinking about adding another, I currently have 2 stock and 2 p12s, two intake two outtake, should I set this fifth as intake or outtake if I get another? Or is having an odd number bad

[shrewd juniper]

intake, having an odd number is better, means you can get positive airflow with more fans intake than exhaust and less dust in the pc

[sacred wren]

Cool thanks

[shrewd juniper]

np

[raw tide]

I’ve been using stock cooler for a while now but I’m gonna get an actual cpu cooler, how should I position the fan to help with airflow, I currently have 5 artic p12s, three in front, one on top and one on back

Three in front are intake and then the other two are exhaust

Should I make it so that the cpu cooler is pushing out towards the back

[languid gale]

Should I get a fan hub for 5 ARGB P12s?

Or just set up a bunch of splitters?

[steel tusk]

Rock paper shotgun be like

Ah yes the complete crap stealth cooler must be fully adequate with a 5600x boosting

[knotty sparrow]

Did you all see that arctic has a rgb liquid freezer ii now?

[shrewd juniper]

Yes has been out a few months actually idk why gn put it in their news vid soo late lmao

[languid gale]

…I had one for a few months now

[knotty sparrow]

Yep, I remember seeing it a while ago and had intended to poke fun at them for being late to the game

[languid gale]

Lmao

[marsh badge]

it made corsair consider more about acquiring arctic

if corsair did, god would their stuff be ruined

[shrewd juniper]

There is the slim possibility that it makes corsairs aios good tho lol

[marsh badge]

yeah

but it could more likely ruin arctic

[shrewd juniper]

Possibly yeah

stocks up on p12s

[ocean raptor]

I feel like I am getting weirdly high idle temps with my Artic Liquid Freezer 240 and 5900x... Idle is in the 50s?

[proven shoal]

Seems a bit high. What is the max it reaches under load

[shrewd juniper]

Idles can depend on a lot of things, but what are your load temps? Also make sure you have it mounted correctly, took off any plastic that was on the underside if there was some, what are the fan curves like, and make sure the pump is running at 100% , also could just be the fact that a 240mm is kinda pushing it with a 5900x

For example if you have a heat wave, your idle will rise etc

[ocean raptor]

I did a P95 Small FFT run and it was maxing out at 83c

[ocean raptor]

83c max in p95 Small FF, I took off the plastic, trying to figure out fan curves cuz the ATF has an all in one connector for pump and fan, so i may try to separate fan and pump. My room is at 79f (26c) if that helps?

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't bother trying to separate them, forgot it was a combined header, i would guess it's just a mixture of you having a smallish rad and your room being 26c , changing your fan curve will probs help a good bit though, what is the curve like atm?

[ocean raptor]

I ordered the 280 rad and i ran into clearance issues with my MOBO / RAM 😩 is a 240 really small for a 5900x? lemme get a screenshot of the fan curve

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh it's fine it probs just means it's not boosting as much and slightly higher temps, the difference between 240 and 280 is actually larger than you would think but ya

[ocean raptor]

I mean its sitting at 4.2GHz rn

I guess i cant upload images to this channel...

[shrewd juniper]

Dm me it

@ocean raptor i would use the bios instead and also make your fan curve way more aggressive, i would do something along the lines of 30% 0c-30c then 40% at 40c or something, i have mine slowing ramping up to 100% at like 70c

[ocean raptor]

Ok!! I will give it a try and see what happens!

@shrewd juniper I am in no way near danger level right?

[shrewd juniper]

Nono, up to about 95c is fine

[ocean raptor]

updates: was just playing COD CW for like an hour and my CPU temps maxed at like 85c

[shrewd juniper]

thats fine

[uneven sleet]

Anyone know if the EK-Vardar S and EK-Vardar EVO are the same fan? plz tag if responding

[main stag]

Is arctic esports duo good enough for 11700? Or def need some beefy cooler

[shrewd juniper]

I would get a scythe fuma 2 or arctic liquid ii 280mm/360mm or ek rgb 360mm or lian li 360mm (last 3 are aios)

[marsh badge]

^

[main stag]

Any air cooler choices?

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2

The first was air

Last 3 were aio

[main stag]

Case is deepcool matrexx 40

I dont think scuthe fuma 2 will fit

[shrewd juniper]

It should

It's just a micro ATX case

Lemmme see

I would just go arctic liquid ii 280mm as it's better but I'll check the dimensions for fuma 2 anyway

[main stag]

Would like an aio but problems is that they say it will lose its quality overtime (leaking)

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2 is 137mm, your case allows 165mm height

[main stag]

wokie

Thx

[shrewd juniper]

No, only bad older ones have done that really, arctic has an 8 year warranty btw

Np

[main stag]

Hmm

Fook

They got those ugly pump

tbh

[marsh badge]

Then fuma 2

[shrewd juniper]

Btw that's just the chipset fan which is removable but yeah I'd go scythe fuma 2 btw

[languid gale]

Wait the VRM fan is removable?

[shrewd juniper]

Yuh

[main stag]

Not available in our country

[shrewd juniper]

I guess nh u12a or d15 then

[main stag]

Will not fit

But if i go with an aio I can save some fans

So hmmm

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

[shrewd juniper]

Rip :/

[minor mural]

which is better, 120mmx3 or 140mmx2 and why?

[timid carbon]

about equal tbh depending on model of the fans

[minor mural]

so 3x140mm wouldn't make a big difference compared to 3x120mm fans?

[low pumice]

Everything depends

@minor mural are you talking about radiators or case fans or what?

[minor mural]

Case fans

[low pumice]

What exactly is the context?

[mint spire]

average price of making a custom waterloop?

[low pumice]

There isn't really any cases where you should choose to use a smaller fan than what the case supports...

[timid carbon]

Absolutely would. For xase fans 3x120 is similar to 2x140 as ur original question

[minor mural]

Looking for a good airflow PC case and wasn't sure if 120mm and 140mm would make a difference in airflow pc case.

[low pumice]

Depends

[timid carbon]

400-500

[mint spire]

nice

[timid carbon]

corsair 4000d airflow

pretty much the best there is

[low pumice]

I would just grab a P500a for 140$ ish range, td500 mesh for 100$ ish range, neo air for 60$ ish range, or p360a

[low pumice]

I disagree for stock setup

[minor mural]

lol I was looking at P500a just today

[timid carbon]

What do you mean?

[low pumice]

I really don't like 4000d stock

[minor mural]

recently td500 mesh. I love the design of td500 mesh

[timid carbon]

like the stock fans?

[low pumice]

Basically 100$ for a case with 2 fans

Performs worse at stock than many other cases iirc

Sure it gets better but buying more fans adds to the cost

:p

[timid carbon]

its like 80$ tbf

just slap in arctic p12s and you have pretty much the best you can get

[low pumice]

Or, just get a td500 mesh that comes with the fans, and free rgb

[timid carbon]

100$ with all the fans is pretty damn good for that airflow

It also looks great

[low pumice]

Annnnnd td500 mesh exists

[timid carbon]

put yeah the p360a is also a good case

or the td500

[low pumice]

What case we talking about now....?????

[timid carbon]

p360a

also a great case

[low pumice]

Either way, I'd take either of those over a 4000d

[magic wave]

TT Versa H18 TG and two P14s 😎

Only works if you don't mind mATX

[fluid lichen]

So p12s or p14s are good case fans

[marsh badge]

yeh

i mean p and f, doesn't matter

both works

[lavish geyser]

Ideally you don’t want your fans running at 100% very much right? Or at least not extended periods of time

[shrewd juniper]

Nothing wrong with it, might slightly decrease lifespan but not by a noticeable amount afaik, better to have cool parts and replace your fans a day earlier compared to 80% for example

[lavish geyser]

I’ve got my build all done and it’s great so far. But being my second build I want to do even more and learn more this time around. I never really worried about/messed with fan curves for my previous build. So I’m trying to plan that out now. Case fans and especially my AIO/CPU fans

[marsh badge]

Just watch the temps n adjust em to how you want

While staying with the level of acoustics you're okay with

[brittle forum]

hi, i just bought noctua radiator fans and replace the ones on my radiator, but my omen command center hub seems unable to detect the fan speed. Could anyone tell me what I can do to see the fan speed?

[shrewd juniper]

You should be able to control the fans in the bios

[brittle forum]

@shrewd juniperi see. thank you.
is there a software or an app, which i can use, to change right from the desktop, without entering the bios?

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh usually those can be finicky, but it will depend on your motherboard brand

[brittle forum]

@shrewd juniper
got it. Thank you so much!

[shrewd juniper]

Np

@brittle forum if you go to your motherboards website you should be able to find some software under the support tab

[brittle forum]

cool. I didn't know that. Appreciate it.

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[tender reef]

Kyronaut, MX-4 (2019), or Noctua NT-H1/H2?

currently have Artic Silver 5 on my CPU. Getting into 90's recently.

[marsh badge]

What cooler?

But that temp is normal for 5600X tbh, it has pbo on by default on many boards

It boosts as much as it could until it hits thermal ceiling

If you want lower, you have to swap cooler

[tender reef]

Stock cooler 5600x

[marsh badge]

Yep, then that's normal

[tender reef]

Do you recommend any of those or others for thermal paste?
Planning on getting either ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240, or Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

[marsh badge]

The hyper 212 is bad, it's barely better than stock

But the liquid freezer is a nice choice

If you want air, there's fuma 2

As for AIOs, there's a few options that I know of, that is outside the Arctic liquid freezer. They're lian li galahad and ek aio

[shrewd juniper]

Get an arctic freezer 280 or 360 if possible, if going air, low end id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5, or if you want nice temps and nice pbo get scythe fuma 2

[languid gale]

@shrewd juniper These fans are set to intake right?

[shrewd juniper]

ye

[languid gale]

Thanks

[shrewd juniper]

np

[languid gale]

My dad surprised me by ordering the P12s off of my wishlist

[shrewd juniper]

Niceee

[languid gale]

Uhhh these ARGB plugs don’t fit into my fan hub

Love you cooler master for not mentioning anywhere it only works with proprietary connectors

Can someone recommend a good fan hub for ARGB Arctic P12s?

[shrewd juniper]

For rgb or pwm?

[languid gale]

Both preferably

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhh ik arctic has a pwm one, idk bout rgb tho

@languid gale https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Case-Fan-Hub-Distributor/dp/B0887VG14J/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+fan+hub&qid=1626993894&sr=8-3 pwm hub

[languid gale]

Ahh ok thanks

I saw some people say you can use the cooler master hub if you file down the ARGB connectors

Good or bad idea?

Like the plastic on them

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhhhh cooler master probs a stupid proprietary voltage or something, is there not enough rgb headers on your mobo?

[languid gale]

Nope

On Amazon reviews that’s what people were doing and it works and it has to be 5v since it plugs into the mobo’s ARGB header

[lavish geyser]

Cooler masters ARGB plugs and hub are indeed different from the other companies

I’ve looked at their hub before on Amazon and it’s all over the comments with pictures

[languid gale]

I filed the connectors down and it works perfectly

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-universe-gif-4242702

[languid gale]

200 grit sandpaper on a piece of wood

works perfectly

[shrewd juniper]

Nice

[languid gale]

How should I change this fan curve?

[shrewd juniper]

Well i would at least let it get to 100% if it needs to

But preference sound vs heat

[topaz blaze]

good budget aio?

240 mm?

id-cooling has some okay ones

well now my next question is, is it better to put it at the front or the top

but yes 240mm

Probably front

Front for intake

ight

so go with an id cooling one?, does it matter which?

Not 100% sure, id wait till tomorrow for others to see since it's kinda late

(in the us)

[low pumice]

top mount best mount >:p

front mount is fine too

[topaz blaze]

why would you set your aio as exaust and not intake though

i feel like it would be more efficient for the fans to be bringing air to the aio so the cpu gets that cool water instead of the fans expelling said hotness

[low pumice]

testing shows intake and exhaust make very little difference for performance

and radiator above pump for pump longevity things and less annoying air bubbles

[marsh badge]

^

[magic wave]

If the case has a top 240 or higher it's nicer to be able to fit it up there

Then you could have room for GPU aio in the front if you have water cool

[shrewd juniper]

Budget cpu aio doesn't exactly go with a 3090 maniac xD

[topaz blaze]

too broke for full watercooling

thats why i want an aio

and my gpu is rather small

sapphire pulse 4gb 570

what aio should i get though?

[covert apex]

EK AIO, Arctic Freezer, Lian Li Galahad

[topaz blaze]

damn ion know why i expected it to cost less than this

maybe i should just air cool

@.@

[covert apex]

Scythe Fuma 2 is a good higher end air cooler

[vapid falcon]

What are some good performing 140mm white case fans for a good price to match my white aesthetic, I don’t really care about rgb but if there’s a good option I’ll take it

I was looking at a couple options but reviews are mixed

[covert apex]

The Arctic P14 PWM are available in white and are great fans

[topaz blaze]

do i really need that though? getting 3300x

[shrewd juniper]

Just use the stock cooler for that, i really wouldn't buy that cpu now tho, an i5 11400 and b560 would be a much better choise

[vapid falcon]

Nice ok! I think I’ll go for those! They look fairly good for what I need

[glass summit]

my fittings for my hydro x series pump and block come in 😄

[topaz blaze]

i alr have a mobo

im just upgrading

im on a 3000G rn

also just kinda dont like intel, especially with linux

[shrewd juniper]

Fair enough then but just remember the 3300x doesn't have graphics

[topaz blaze]

i have a gpu of course

[shrewd juniper]

That's fine then

[magic wave]

Yes 😎

[arctic remnant]

Anyone used the MicroConnectors 12 port fan hub, how do I control the fans wo/ bios?

[knotty sparrow]

Most motherboard manufacturers have a specific program that can adjust fans. When they're on a hub they'll all run the same speed, though, no matter what.

[topaz blaze]

is the kraken g12 worth it

[low pumice]

for current gen gpus? no

not at all

it can't really cool vrm or vram at all

not exactly good when gddr6x is throttling and current gen gpus draw so much power

[topaz blaze]

i have an RX 570

[low pumice]

I prob still wouldn't unless you're doing smth wacky

[topaz blaze]

i mean i just want color consistency

everything else white with a black gpu

[topaz blaze]

is kinda yuk

[brisk rain]

Does anyone have a noise level comparison between the u14s and fuma 2?

[covert apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT0UtQQ1rEo

[brisk rain]

u14s isn't in there

[covert apex]

Noise should be in this video

https://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-u14s/1

This has the noise levels

Not sure if either of these would help

[brisk rain]

Second one doesn't have the fuma 2

[covert apex]

Max. Acoustical Noise: 24,6 dB(A)
For the U14S and around 24 dB for the Fuma 2 at max

[brisk rain]

u14s isn't in that chart either

[covert apex]

okay but you have both of the max dB

Dosent that help

[brisk rain]

From two completely different tests, so not really

[covert apex]

Ah okay

[brisk rain]

There's a reason that gn always notes the acoustic floor and the microphone distance

[fickle jolt]

what is suggested for rgb fans

argb i mean

and cheaper than corsair ll120

[knotty sparrow]

P12 has rgb now iirc

[covert apex]

They do

$40 for a 3 pack

[fickle jolt]

where can you find them

[covert apex]

Great question

[fickle jolt]

because amazon has them for expesnvie

[knotty sparrow]

You can check arctic website directly

[covert apex]

Pretty sure out of stock on there

[knotty sparrow]

Pcpp doesn't always update fast

[covert apex]

Some seller on ebay has them for MSRP

[knotty sparrow]

It said my RMx was out of stock too, but it wasn't

[fickle jolt]

i need 13

XD

[covert apex]

lmao

[fickle jolt]

thats the issue im running into

[knotty sparrow]

13? You filling out an O11?

[fickle jolt]

i have a 719

it can technically take 14 fans

but with full loops it 15

[low pumice]

@brisk rain do you want tests at 100%? I can go look around for you

[brisk rain]

Preferably tests at a given heat dissipation

100% would work too though

[low pumice]

@brisk rain sad I can't find much, mostly because u14s released so much earlier, it's all like 2013 reviews and fuma 2 reviews are like 2019

[brisk rain]

Yeah, I was only able to find one review and it seemed sorta LTT level or lower

Logically it seems like the u14s should be quieter, but I'm not able to actually find data 😢

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QpH7YJ/arctic-p12-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00231a for single fan, but they are being scalped atm lol, the 3 pack usually 43$

[arctic remnant]

My cpu is sitting at 80-90 degrees at all times what is wrong? Here is my airflow.

The CPU cooler is tight

There is enough thermal paste

[low pumice]

What CPU what cooler

Is the pump plugged into the pump header

Is the fan curve aggressive enough

[arctic remnant]

Cooler: https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi3urrpp4HyAhUEj1sKHWapAT8YABAGGgJ5bQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2xbrH8_1a4G4QT20HEGM7nQNUTmCSoZBGi9yOjFmzHDk5dAJ25kPZngy8ZcxVGuF-4qKcNFSxbQZNtUdyqu0&sig=AOD64_3R-T1_trMreu8sJ3bLEXFXgTCMvg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiny6zpp4HyAhWOLc0KHYVrAssQ9aACegQIARBD&adurl=

Yes the pump is in the pump header

the fans are at max, i think

[low pumice]

Check what hwinfo says

[arctic remnant]

?

this https://www.hwinfo.com/

[low pumice]

Ye

P sure hwinfo also tracks fan speeds

[arctic remnant]

where do i find fan speeds

@low pumice

[low pumice]

Sensor only

Scroll down

[arctic remnant]

System 2 is Fan Hub

[low pumice]

fan hubs are wack

you sure there's no software for your fan hub?

[arctic remnant]

MicroConnectors 12 port fan hub

[low pumice]

prob not then

try just giving it a more aggressive fan curve in bios

[arctic remnant]

OK i thought i just set them to max all the time but ill check

[low pumice]

those fans are more like 2000rpm max

not 1300-1400rpm

[arctic remnant]

ok ill ckeck give me a moment

@low pumice

[low pumice]

yea uh

that's waiting until you get to 97c to go to 100% fan speed if that's the fan curve

[arctic remnant]

how do i fix it

Like this? @low pumice

I just keep getting random spikes up to 97 and then it falls back to 70

now with discord and chrome open its sitting at 65-72 degrese

[shrewd juniper]

@arctic remnant did you mount in an x pattern, ie top left, bottom right, etc?

Just to make sure mount is even

Also took the plastic off the cooler if there was some?

[low pumice]

weird fan curve

[arctic remnant]

somewhat like that i undid it and then re did it

I changed the fan curv again

[shrewd juniper]

Weird fan curve indeed

[arctic remnant]

i did take the plastic off

[shrewd juniper]

Just checking yeah

[arctic remnant]

What else could be the problem?

[shrewd juniper]

What's your fan curve now?

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhhh where's the % numbers for fan speed?

[arctic remnant]

Left most number

[shrewd juniper]

then where is the temperature intervals?

[arctic remnant]

@shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

try something like 30% to 30c and then go to 100% at 70c or 80c

[arctic remnant]

Like this?

@shrewd juniper

Discord and chrome are open

[shrewd juniper]

that graph is very confusing , are you using the bios or software in windows?

[arctic remnant]

bios

[shrewd juniper]

also i wouldnt use nzxt cam

use hwinfo64

[arctic remnant]

The monitor is MSI Center

What should i send you?

[shrewd juniper]

ohh looked like nzxt cam, i would still use hwinfo64

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

download that

run sensors only

[shrewd juniper]

hmm

[timid carbon]

U usin an aio @arctic remnant

[arctic remnant]

Cooler Master

[timid carbon]

What size?

[shrewd juniper]

try something like this, if the cpu temp is on the left and fan % on bottom

[timid carbon]

Either way run pump at 100%

[shrewd juniper]

its an i5 it shouldt be 95c idle no matter what tbh

[arctic remnant]

is is

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiW5fTfv4HyAhVLssgKHRdwBAMYABAGGgJxdQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2Asmk6BQpUCpoVbCxo03AYc4lIZvUDaJeG0UEGu4Kr4TijWPthH6uxRWJf4wMvrFi6tCV4pYa5N61xQh8XHA&sig=AOD64_224gma3vA32S-EAZ59G_GgSnxX2A&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiKu-bfv4HyAhWMQc0KHdVRDnAQww96BAgBEEA&adurl=

[timid carbon]

In that case u mounted the aio wrong

[arctic remnant]

wdum

[timid carbon]

Did you wipe the gray stuff off the aio?

[arctic remnant]

it didnt have anything on it but plastic

[timid carbon]

And thats the problem

No thermal paste

[arctic remnant]

i put paste on it

[timid carbon]

How much

[arctic remnant]

2-3 rice

[timid carbon]

And which paste

[arctic remnant]

whatever was in the box

[timid carbon]

Hmm are all the screws tight

[arctic remnant]

yes

[timid carbon]

And what pattern did you use to tighten em?

Draw it on a piece of paper and send

[shrewd juniper]

already asked them if they did x

[arctic remnant]

tightening it as i went

1234,1234,1234,1234 ect

[timid carbon]

1 looking a lil loose to me

[arctic remnant]

noope its tight

just checked

[timid carbon]

Remove all the screws and remount

[arctic remnant]

already did that once\

[arctic remnant]

So what's else would be the reason my CPU is overheating

[knotty sparrow]

Is the pump actually running? Dead pumps happen

[arctic remnant]

I dont hear anything

[arctic remnant]

Should i feel something

[knotty sparrow]

Maybe some vibration, but most pumps (especially cooler master cheapo ones) are audible at least some

[wheat temple]

there is thermal paste included in the aio, nzxt z63 right?

[harsh tiger]

:8ball: | Most likely, RAWR

[marsh badge]

Should be, but why that choice for aio?

If you're going for looks, then I guess go for it

But it's not a good value, performs meh too

[molten talon]

What are some really quiet fans that come in white?

[marsh badge]

Arctic P14

[shrewd juniper]

It will either have pre applied paste or a tube in the box, but you should check out arctic liquid freezer ii or ek rgb or lian li Galahad instead, they area all way better

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12/p14

[molten talon]

Would lian LI sl140s be quiet

[shrewd juniper]

Probs but not as quiet and a lot more expensive, there is p12 rgb if you're looking for that btw

[fervent remnant]

Anyone familiar with the Corsair 4000d Airflow

[shrewd juniper]

Yup what's your question

[fervent remnant]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B08WRWNNZ9?th=1&psc=1&ref_=d6k_applink_bb_dls_failed#

[fervent remnant]

Can this fit? Never used a AIO

[shrewd juniper]

Yep it fits in the front

[fervent remnant]

I was watching and video and they said it's super tight? Also how would I mount it

[shrewd juniper]

Nah it will fit fine, I've never actually used an aio so i don't know the exacts but screw fans into radiator, mount radiator to front of case, mount cpu block it will say in the manual tho

[fervent remnant]

Ok

[topaz blaze]

i have fan rgb lad not working why in 1 fan

2 fan its ok

[shrewd juniper]

Can you rephrase?

[topaz blaze]

how

[shrewd juniper]

Can you just re explain it

[timid carbon]

I got you

he has 3 rgb fans of the same model, 2 of them work and 1 doesnt rgb wise

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh

[timid carbon]

Im an expert at deciphering bad english at this point lol

[raven bane]

SilverStone SST-AB120R-ARGB whats ur opinions about this fan

specs really look nice to me

94 CFM and 3.53 h2o static pressure

idk about the noise but I'm buying 9 fans so I don't know if it shall be my concern or not

[shrewd juniper]

I mean i haven't really heard of it but just get arcric p12 rgb, they are great at cooling, quiet and cheap sooo

[raven bane]

I would but only problem is only non rgb model of those sell in where I live

I could get on amazon but with shipping and tax it comes for much more expensive

same with newegg

@shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh where do you live?

[raven bane]

I live in Turkey we got most of the brands selling here this year but still isnt like global market

[shrewd juniper]

I see

[raven bane]

shall I keep my AIO pump at max DC power all time

[low pumice]

yes

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/global/tr-en/arctic-cooling-arctic-acfan00231a/p/1YF-000P-001M2?itemPosition=1-2&exactIndex=0 here it is but it is looking a bit expensive, you could always see if Amazon.de ships to Turkey?

[raven bane]

hmm let me check

amazon.de

amazon.de has 3 in 1 packs these might be cheap

[shrewd juniper]

Yep should be around 40€ for the 3 pack

[raven bane]

53

and they arent in stock

thats interesting

they dont sell single fans

and 3-in-1 pack is not in stock

[shrewd juniper]

They are for me?

[raven bane]

can you send the link

[shrewd juniper]

They might just not ship to you

Ohh nvm

I'm blind

[raven bane]

this MX-4 ships to turkey so I think it does too

oh

[shrewd juniper]

Some fans for me do, some dont, rgb don't non rgb do ¯_(ツ)_/¯

And i live in Ireland

[raven bane]

so that depends on the seller

probably

does arctic.de sell

3 pack

but out of stock 😩

single ones are too

[shrewd juniper]

:/

[raven bane]

guess I'll give silverstone fans a try

and tell how it goes

I mean spec wise they are really good I'm just concerned because there are not a lot reviews for it

I guess I'll be the reviewer 🤷‍♂️

amazon.de has cheap mx-5 and iFixit kit at least that might help later

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh just use the included paste with your cooler

[empty seal]

hey all. i was hoping you could give me some advice on cooling. Im flexible on the motherboard/psu.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Benz1111/saved/dCTcHx

[shrewd juniper]

have you bought anything yet

and what is the use case

[shrewd juniper]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CWrLGq i would do this

[empty seal]

ah ye i have bought the gpu and the Coolermaster NR200 case

[marble lantern]

Hi, I have bought Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L for my alienware r10. However, I could not fix the pump on the CPU. Can somebody help me out? >_<

[short glacier]

hot take

Virgin Tower Heatsink users:
Has no VRM cooling
Has no Memory Cooling
Has to think about memory clearance

Chad Shrouded heastink users:
Has VRM cooling
Has Memory cooling
Dosent even have to consider memory clearance

change my mind

[low pumice]

What

What are you even talking about

[short glacier]

do you not know what a shroud is?

[low pumice]

The heck is a shrouded heatsink

[short glacier]

One of these https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539946061813252096/869696484650676254/IMG_20210727_135126.jpg

The plastic thing

directs air over the heatsink, memory and VRM

[low pumice]

What

[short glacier]

have you never seen the inside of a old dell and seen a wierd green thing on the heatsink?

[low pumice]

No

[short glacier]

except mine is just clear

[low pumice]

That just looks like a funnel

[short glacier]

Yes funnels air directly through it

except my machine has one but takes up like half the case

[low pumice]

Yea I doubt the first one actually helps with cooling

[short glacier]

air never gets reused

[low pumice]

Looks like someone forgot to take off the packaging

The case side panel would usually just fulfill the same job

[short glacier]

nah that clear shroud kept two 135w 2011 xeons cool with passive heatsinks
cooled the VRM to to keep it from melting

i put it on a Am4 board

works great

[low pumice]

there's also just finger chippers in the chassis

[short glacier]

yes

5x 9.4k 80mm

[low pumice]

yes

I think those are doing the work

not the plastic shroud

packaging

whatever you want to call it

[unique lily]

Hyper Intelligent Redneck ✔#9214 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[short glacier]

Nah if you take the shroud off air goes wherever the duck it wants i tried it once when this case had 2011 xeons in it with the side panel on it

poor things almost melted

Yea it would work without a shroud but a shroud just directs it through a tunnel

increasing air speed vastly, and being a tunnel with two ends and only two. Air goes in and then out. never reciculated like a tower headsink could in a bad situation

Tower heatsinks will happily recirculate if a case fan dies

[low pumice]

I mean, having exhaust fans would probably also give you the same result

[short glacier]

True true

[low pumice]

working with finger chippers is probably just wacky if any of them die

[short glacier]

Nah these things stay at like 30% speed most of the time if one dies the mobo just goes "Oh Dear... lemme fix that" and cranks all the remaining fans to 100%

this thing can happily run with like 2-3 fans missing because with the shroud, even if its just the exhaust fans remaining the exhaust fans will then suck air through the shroiud.

Or maybe im applying server stuff to non server hardware but I am yet to have any issues with shrouded shenanigans..

might be compleatly wrong about the tower heatsink airflow thing but thats what i see people in forums complain about when overclocking so i just assume its true

[low pumice]

I only work with non-server hardware and I hear nothing about needing a shroud or air re-circulation issues with tower coolers

[short glacier]

most of my experience with computers has came from servers its kinda wierd you would expect little junior to be learning about the home computer but not me i went straight to servers oddly enough

so i inherently use server solutions with pc problems

one of which is the Air Shroud, can be found in almost any server

[low pumice]

yea, I mean, airflow patterns in normal cases kinda just get nullified by finger chipper fans

so home pc logic can't really be applied to servers

[short glacier]

Fair enough

Tho i will say using a finger removal fan as a exhaust fan but only running it at like 5-10% speed or something you know so its not noisy or anything, so you get airflow like a normal case fan.
But then if something starts overheating for whatever reason the fan can just crank itself in a emergency

Tower heatsink fan failure? could probally make a strong enough draft to keep the CPU from melting

Had a GPU fan die before, went on for a week or two didnt know it, stupid case airflow finger removal fans kept it from failing

Tbh I think all computers shrould have a "Oh Duck" Fan setting

[low pumice]

I mean

there's just throttling, or fan curves usually going to 100% after a certain point

[short glacier]

the only time i have had something overheat

a CPU opted to cook itself

[unique lily]

Hyper Intelligent Redneck ✔#9214 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[short glacier]

because apperently 2011 xeons dont ducking throttle

the ones i had ran till it died

maybe just a wierd xeon thing but those up to that point where the newest proccessors i had ever worked with

[low pumice]

maybe

[short glacier]

xeons have alot of protection features turned off they expect who ever is using them is some big brain datacenter engineer

so they will happily let you set power limits to 200w and will litterally run cpus at 200w if you set it to performance mode to.

I found out the hard way, on a consumer board power limit means "Bro u can use this much power just not any more? go nuts just not over ok?"

but in xeons it means "Ima force feed you this much power and you cant stop me."

[low pumice]

lol

[short glacier]

Yea I had a CPU designed for like 40w set the power limit 200w expecting it to use like maybe 80w or so let it squeeze as much out of the silicon as possible you know like what would happen on a consumer board

Nah as soon as I pressed save it forcefed the CPU 200w cooking it instantly... Took out the mobo too

[low pumice]

haha

[shrewd juniper]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KVjg9N I'd do that then

[rose isle]

Thats TASTY!

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-yummy-wow-tasty-vince-swann-gif-10547343

[keen onyx]

hello people: I'm debating what AIO I should get. I am going to reuse my Corsair C70 I know it does support 280AIO. But only corsair 280 Right now I'm debating If I get a Corsair H115IRGB premium(PCpartpicker says it fits) or Corsair Hydro Series, H115i PRO/ XT (same demations). Or get 240 from Cooler master 240, NZXT kraken Z43/Z53 or Artic freezerII 240 or use a H105 I have brand new. If there better recommendations, that also works. My mobo is a gigabyte Z590 Aorus ultra and a i9 10900k

[shrewd juniper]

how would it only work with corsair 280??? the sire says 240 but Arctic liquid freezer ii or ek aio or lian li galahad, rest are a waste of time and money tbh but tbh i would go air cooling and get a scythe fuma 2 instead of spending more money on a 240mm aio as they are meh

[keen onyx]

@shrewd juniper because on pcpartpicker only shows me 5 280 AIO and nothing more

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/?compatible_with=4FV48d#W=10280&m=77,50,11,14,94

[shrewd juniper]

weird....

well corsairs website only says 240mm so i would say its some weird glitch or something

[keen onyx]

Radiator Compatibility 120mm; 140mm; 240mm; 280mm
Compatible Corsair Liquid Coolers H55, H60, H75, H80i, H90, H100i, H105, H110

[shrewd juniper]

that seems like bs i dont see why just corsair 280s could fit

[keen onyx]

i know

[shrewd juniper]

its such an old case than half the forum threads on corsair about it have been deleted

https://tenor.com/view/tableflip-cat-angry-mad-gif-3552726

okay so

its only compatible with some 280s

not specifically corsairs

[keen onyx]

ohh cool

[shrewd juniper]

the thing is they dont list what the max rad dimesions are

soooo

either grab a ruler

or we gotta assume their 280mm is the max dimesions

[keen onyx]

I see

So what are you saying is that 280 be ok, but need to measure to be sure if it fits.

[shrewd juniper]

yes

[keen onyx]

dang I may have to measure before getting the Cooler

[shrewd juniper]

yup

assuming the max dimensions are the h110 tho the arctic is slightly to tall :(

[keen onyx]

ok, I may use that H105 I have for the time been until I get the measurements/ build the PC

[shrewd juniper]

if assuming h110i elite tho the arctic fits

[shrewd juniper]

looks like the evga clc 280mm should be around the same size as the h110 so might be a good shot

[keen onyx]

ohh, that be awesome

[keen onyx]

Ohhh, that be awesome. Thanks again plato. the CLC280 is similar size.

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[zinc swift]

liquid cooling lc 360 closed loop

[rose isle]

Actric Freezer, EK, Lian Li Gallahad are your choices

[tulip matrix]

before i pay, is this a good AIO Fractal Design Celsius S36 Blackout 360mm?

its going to be for an I5-11600K

[leaden hollow]

I don't have any experience with them but I've read that this is really good. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WNJCVNW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=pcmecca0c-20&linkId=f73d4ccf80cada2f5a1938f98f8f03d8&language=en_US&th=1

[rose isle]

this is probably the best AIO available on the market today

[leaden hollow]

Agreed, it's going to be my next AIO that I'm going to buy when I upgrade.

[tulip matrix]

the fractal is $119 and im still buying parts week by week

i already have my motherboard and i ordered cpu yesterday and will buy ram and case next week

[leaden hollow]

The Arctic is just $10 more and its been tried and tested

[tulip matrix]

ok ill do it

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer, ek aio or lian li Galahad

[leaden hollow]

Three top AIOs^^^^^