old-cooling

[timid carbon]

air coolers wont do it on an overclocked 10700k

what mobo you getting with that CPU btw

[subtle gyro]

MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi

[timid carbon]

nice mobo for them OCs

[subtle gyro]

do you think its better to have the aio pulling air into the case or blowing it out?

[timid carbon]

depends top mount of front

[subtle gyro]

if i want a 360mm i need to put it in the front

or I could put a 240mm in the top

[shrewd juniper]

What about a 280 top?

[subtle gyro]

I tihnk you can only have a 240 in the top

The case is a meshify c atx

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah top is 240 max

[sour mango]

For a top mounted 360 aio, should I do exhaust or intake for those fans, I have 3 140 fans as intake on front and 1 140 for exhaust put the back

[knotty eagle]

Exhaust

[sour mango]

Push or pull? @knotty eagle

[knotty eagle]

Push exhaust

[sour mango]

Ok, thanks!

[knotty eagle]

YW

Similar setup on my 3700X

[little lake]

Rebuilding my pc, should I go with any thermal paste in particular ?

[low pumice]

any decent ones

mx-4 mx-5 nt-h2 etc

[smoky bramble]

Finally ordered a Liquid Freezer II 360mm just to OC old hardware

[topaz blaze]

I just got it aswell yesterday

[unique lily]

Milk#1025 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[topaz blaze]

Ugliest but best aio ever

[smoky bramble]

Agreed. Such a good price too. I do wish they would've went with solid black sleeving for the tubes

[vocal mauve]

Hey dudes, I want some feedback on what im going to do and if its gonna work, but essentially I wanna upgrade my cpu cooler to a NH D15, my main gripe tho is that I have pretty tall memory, Corsair vengeance pro, would that work?

[shrewd juniper]

I'd get a scythe fuma 2 instead or just get an arctic freezer /ek aio/lian li galahad 240/280/360mm

[vocal mauve]

Alright thanks, but If I did want to really get the NH D15, what low profile ram would I go for

[shrewd juniper]

No point in changing the ram for a cooler tbh

Scythe performs within like a degree for like 30-40$ less

But you could try the nh u12a if you want yo burn some money lol

[vocal mauve]

gotchu

[low pumice]

You could just move the other fan

I have a D15 and trident z neo

[vocal mauve]

lemmie see ur config rq if u dont mind

[low pumice]

older image but too lazy to clean my desk atm

[vocal mauve]

oh yea ur right

thx for the heads up

how r ur temps?

[low pumice]

high, but mainly because crappy early sample 3800x with hotspots

and also I use smallfft to benchmark my temps so...
hehe

[vocal mauve]

ahhh, that kinda concerns me a bit cause i have a 5800x

[low pumice]

I doubt your chip will be as bad as mine xD

it needs so much voltage to get any decent clocks

pbo holds it at like 4.2

base clock on this damn thing is 3.9

[vocal mauve]

damn

[safe sage]

So I upgraded my cpu to a 10700k and I’m using a MSI 240mm aio. Running Cinebench I’m breaking 90°C My case can’t accommodate a 360mm… would a better brand at 280 be that much of an upgrade? Or am I better off going to an air cooler?

[knotty eagle]

Turn the pump speed up to 100%

[safe sage]

Pretty sure it is already… 🤔

[knotty eagle]

Double check. if it is, a batter 280mm might be in order

Or a remount

The MSI AIO isn't great but I don't think it should be getting that hot

[safe sage]

I’ll check it in a moment. I used thermaltake tg7 paste.

[safe sage]

I did have the MSI game boost on. I’m not sure how much that boosts the cpu specs

[knotty eagle]

I still don't think it should get that hot under a game load

Cinebench or something, Prime 95 sure

[safe sage]

I haven’t gamed much with an overlay since upgrading to see what normal load temps look like.

[timid carbon]

Cinebench will be better tbh. P95 is stress testing only... puts way to much load on the cpu and its never really gonna see that in real world

[little lake]

any recommendations for 120mm fans?

[knotty eagle]

Arctic P12 PWM

[safe sage]

I came here to ask similar question lol. Looking for radiator fans and Arctic was top of my list 🤪

[weary sphinx]

new here so pls tell me if this is wrong place to ask: I purchased an "ABS Vortex Optimus - ALI062" from Newegg years ago, and one of the chassis fans is very noisy and I wanted to find a fan to replace it. I need these specs: 120mm x 120mm x25mm, 3pin, 12V .33A and LED (if possible). Driving me crazy on Amazon trying to find rated current of .33A!!!

I asked on Newegg.com and they said we don't know, go here to ask 🙂

[low pumice]

Well, rated current of .33a doesn't really matter much, since motherboard 4 pin pwm headers tend to be capable of at least 1a

@weary sphinx How many fans do you want to buy and what's your budget for those fans?

[weary sphinx]

my asus motherboard only has 3 pin connectors, im not tech savy enough, but i was guessing that 4 pin pmw headers were on more current motherboards.

i just need one replacement fan and was hoping to find one for less that 30 dollars

[low pumice]

3 pin/4 pin are close enough, all the 4th pin does is pwm, which is just finer control of fan rpm

30$ for a single fan can get you a lot of good options

[weary sphinx]

but if the input is 3 pin on the mb, don't i need 3 pin connector to fit, (i saw some on amazon that had both 3 and 4 pin connectors, and the 3 pin connector looked right for my fan

[low pumice]

3 pin version of what is one of, if not the best fan
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A12x25-FLX-3-Pin-Premium/dp/B07C5LRQD3/
3 pin version of another of one of the best fans
https://www.amazon.com/SERVO-Nidec-GentleTyphoon-120mm-Case/dp/B001Q6RUVO/

Well, the pinout for 4 pin pwm goes like this
Ground - 12v - Tachnometer - PWM

Without the pwm pin, it can still act like a fan just as normal, just that the fan speed isn't regulated through pwm, but via changing the voltage and using the tachnometer to help regulate fan speed

(3 pin fans are just 4 pin fans without PWM pin)

[weary sphinx]

so for instance, on the first link, Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX, i dont even see the listed amps. if my old fan says .33A, don't i need to match that?

[low pumice]

You don't, although Noctua does list it as 0.14a on their website, the current rating doesn't really matter as long as the header on the motherboard is rated to be able to take on the fan.

Which, basically all modern boards I know are at least 1a per header, and since the previous fans were .33a, a fan that's rated to pull .14a through the header will work fine

[weary sphinx]

Ahh, ok i see! great, that opens up my choices quite a bit I did see some listed at .14a but didnt realize that was per header. thanks so much for this info!

[low pumice]

In computers, generally, the voltage of the parts stay constant (From the 12v/5v/3.3v rails, assuming decent PSU), so the current is basically all that changes for drawing more or less power, you can think of it as how much power you can pull through each header, and how much power the fan pulls (Instead of current, if that makes it easier to understand).

[weary sphinx]

so if I'm understanding correctly, ones with higher that a total of .33A will work fine and even provide more power, so it would be an advantage to look for a fan that is higher that .33A if everything else is correct?

[knotty eagle]

Not really, amperage draw has nothing to do with airflow

Generally

Plenty of the lower amperage fans can provide great airflow.

[weary sphinx]

OK. So the bottom line is check for airflow, and noise levels that I want, and don't worry about the amps, that any amp will work with a modern motherboard?

[knotty eagle]

And size

😉

[weary sphinx]

right LOL

[knotty eagle]

Amperage is only a consideration if you're installing multiple fans to a single header, generally most amperage is 0.35 or less per fan.

[low pumice]

And measure of airflow is... bad... across different fans

[knotty eagle]

We will find out soon, GN getting a fan testing machine

[low pumice]

I think GN said they will need until later this year to get enough data and such though

But that'll be interesting

[knotty eagle]

Indicated it was one widely used by the industry so I'm curious to see how much they really vary

[weary sphinx]

so if i dont know what the airflow is on chassis 2 fan, I should get 2 identical fans to make sure the airflow matches?

[low pumice]

Not really necessary

[weary sphinx]

(only one of the 2 is noisy)

ok

[low pumice]

Optimal setup for fans is positive/neutral pressure, positive meaning more air flowing in than out, and neutral is just not really realistic considering how fans vary

[weary sphinx]

Thanks for all the help!

[sacred wren]

Anyone wanna guide me through installing this cpu fan in vc?

I cant even get this fan off '-'

Nvm I'm just stupid

So I have an issue

I don't think the screws are long enough

Se 224 xt

I cant get the screws to go through the plastic standoff and stay

[wide glade]

Was thinking of replacing my be quiet! Pure Wings 2 high speed fans with some corsair ML fans, I’m looking for quieter operation, although my currents fans seem to better airflow, on paper

[sacred wren]

@knotty eagle any ideas?

[wide glade]

I have 4 120’s, 3 mounted to a AIO in a pull config, one jn the back as an exhaust, 2 140’s on the top, one being an intake and the other as an exhaust

[sacred wren]

Bruh i had the mounting bracket upsidedown

[shrewd juniper]

They be

Make sure they mounted the right way yeah lol

[sacred wren]

The motherboard moved

The standoffs aren't visible anymore

[wide glade]

My temps are alright, don’t see above 80 on the CPU, or 80 on my 5700 XT, I think

[sacred wren]

How does that even happen

The fing back plate moved

The hell do i do now

[shrewd juniper]

Hold it in place with hand

[sacred wren]

This is gonna give me an aneurysm

Backplate moves everytime I get it into place

[shrewd juniper]

Use 1 hand screw 1 hand hold backplate

[sacred wren]

If the heatsink is bent a bit in a corner away from the cpu is it bad

The metal part idek if that's called the heatsink

@shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh that's a bit weird

Probs not really an issue

But it's up to you if you'd wanna rma

[topaz blaze]

i have a grill in the side of my case for airflow and a laptop cooler should i point the cooler fan blowing in to the case or blowing out

[knotty sparrow]

Side fan is usually intake

[topaz blaze]

thx

would the cooler thing actually benefit the pc airflow

I feel like it might be helping but it's more noise than visible performance gain

[knotty sparrow]

Maybe, it depends on a few other factors like how many other fans you have and how they're oriented, as well as what case exactly you have, and if the GPU blocks most of the airflow, etc

[topaz blaze]

Good point

[knotty sparrow]

Side intake will help with GPU temps mostly

[topaz blaze]

Since it's right there, yeah

I'll try it out for a bit and see if it's helpful

this prebuilt case has just about 0 air flow

[knotty sparrow]

Oh yeah a prebuilt will usually benefit from an extra fan or two

[sacred wren]

Seems to be working well. Temps dropped like 15 celsius under full load

Gonna benchmark it later

[shrewd juniper]

Nice

[topaz blaze]

Are stock fans on a 500a gonna have a noticeable difference from if I buy other fans or no

(3 of them)

[knotty sparrow]

Noticeable? Probably not if you're replacing them. Maybe a couple degrees tops.

[topaz blaze]

I already have 3 Corsair 120mms from old build I could replace with but they suck aswell so I’m guessing it’s not really worth then

[knotty sparrow]

Not unless you're adding in new fans, replacing is kinda pointless except in certain cases

[topaz blaze]

Yea, then for the fan slot on the top left side of case, (one directly to left or cpu) I can just put whatever fan there correct? (Would be one of the Corsair ones if so)

I already know the answer is yes so nvm

[tulip matrix]

Does anyone know how well the Noctua NH-P1 performs yet or is it still an unknown territory as for i might switch from an Aio to that

[knotty sparrow]

The passive heatsink? Those things are for very specialized applications like high dust environments.

[tulip matrix]

Yeah i do have huskies and their fur ends up on my case and near and also my aio isnt mounted to the case as i was a little lazy and didnt want to remove the front fans and it wont fit on the top of my case due to the mobo

[knotty sparrow]

Fur is one thing, it doesn't stick as much, but wood/metal dust from a computer running a grinder or 3D printer is different

[tulip matrix]

Oh 3d printing cause issues as well? Rip my pc then

[knotty sparrow]

Only if your PC is exposed to metal dust from the printing process

[tulip matrix]

Hmm i i doubt it is but i was just checking to see

Thanks

[knotty sparrow]

Typically that would mean a PC directly mounted to the printer itself, something nearby would be fine since it's mostly a sealed container.

At any rate I don't see any reviews except the "It exists!" posts from a week ago

[knotty sparrow]

9:34 even this gargantuan heatsink can't keep a 6700k from thermal throttling, you'd need some sort of airflow through the passive sink at a minimum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zsHqdNRQ8

[tulip matrix]

Ohhh yeah

Well in my case i have like 6 fans in a case but my 9400f stays at 54°C under heavy loads especially in vr applications running 120hz at 2k settings

[knotty sparrow]

Dude that's ice cold, it doesn't even start thinking about throttling until over 90C

[tulip matrix]

Yeah im unfamiliar with temp throttles with cpus

When it idles it sits around 18-20

[knotty sparrow]

That's probably slightly over ambient, which is normal

You certainly don't need to spend over $100 on a cooler for a 9400f

$20-30 at most

[tulip matrix]

Yeah no i spent like $35 for this random aio i found on amazon

I just didnt think the rad would be as thick as it stated

[shrewd juniper]

Must have been on sale or something, i think the cheapest aios are like 70$+ and not great

[tulip matrix]

Claimed to be an inch thick but ended up being like 3.5in and it was a chinese brand

[timid carbon]

120mm is cheap

[tulip matrix]

I got a 240mm

[shrewd juniper]

120mm mb like 50-60 but still not very good lol

[knotty sparrow]

A simple SSE 224 would be more than you need, there's a few other options too

[timid carbon]

120 is never good

per se

[knotty sparrow]

Looks like Gammaxx 400 is the cheapest of our usual suggestions at $25 right now

[tulip matrix]

Well i really appreciate the advice as its odd that im asking for advice instead of helping others in other locations and if i have anymore questions ill know to ask this group thanks again

[knotty sparrow]

Happy to help

[low pumice]

Quoting Noctua for an answer to the original question, "Noctua advises that a system's ambient temperature and components can affect the amount of heat dissipation the NH-P1 can handle. The company doesn't give a general TDP specification but refers consumers to the CPU compatibility list that will arrive with the official launch."

[safe sage]

Considering switching from MSI 240mm AIO to a tower cooler. 90c on cinebench with no overclock 10700K. I think upgrading to pressure optimized fans “might” help but at the price to upgrade to decent fans for a “might” I could put that towards a tower that I know will work. Any thoughts? Just Thinking out loud

Looking at getting a set of Arctic bionix fans if I upgrade fans.

If I could fit a 360 I’d probably go that route but I’m running a mass storage HDD and I don’t have room to move the drive skid out of the way for the rad

[shrewd juniper]

You'd want arctic p12s over bionix fans btw

But that's not a great aio yeh :/

[topaz blaze]

I was looking to make my first custom waterloop in my o11 dynamic, and I was looking to get two EK-CoolStream XE 360's one for the top and bottom of the case, but I was wondering what is the difference between all of their xe, pe, and se rads are? It seems to be a small price difference between all of them

[shrewd juniper]

I would do side intake instead of bottom probs

Less complications about the rad being under the pump

[topaz blaze]

Yeah I was going to do that, but I already have a distribution plate that can only fit on the side :/

[shrewd juniper]

A distribution plate?

[topaz blaze]

yeah a distro plate, here one sec I'll send the link in here

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-classic-dp-side-pc-o11d-g1-d-rgb-ddc-3-2-pwm

it's a reservoir and pump in one pretty much

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh a water block res thing

[topaz blaze]

yup yup, and I can only realistically fit the rads on the top and bottom

[shrewd juniper]

The o11d gives me nightmares with its airflow mess lol

[topaz blaze]

Agreed. It was definitely a mistake, as well as my 3080ti is hitting like 98c at times. It's the whole reason I want to get it water cooled

[shrewd juniper]

Wtf? 98c?

Ehh what's your fan curve?

And what's your fan in/exhaust layout

[topaz blaze]

So currently I have the side and bottom as an intake, and the top as an exhaust

[shrewd juniper]

What cooler on the 9700k?

[topaz blaze]

and the fan curve starts ramping up at like 45c, but it's always on the most extreme it can be

[shrewd juniper]

Can you send a screenshot of it?

[topaz blaze]

I have the nzxt kraken (x53?)

and I could try and find an old photo but that rig is pretty much taken apart for the time being

it's usually around 50-60c idle, but when it plays games it gets hot

[shrewd juniper]

That's too hot even for the kraken

I would try reapply the cooler

And make sure pump is always 100%

[topaz blaze]

will do, but right now I'm just waiting on my ek stuff to come in

[shrewd juniper]

Fair,

What's the 3080 ti curve like?

Could probs make more aggressive for time being

[topaz blaze]

good question I'll have to recheck, but I know it's around 100% at like 55c but its usually always above 55c

if I take the side panel off it can idle at like 45c

so I have the max temp set to 83c (it clearly goes over) but this is the fan curve

[shrewd juniper]

Emm is that afterburner?

Also it drops after 85c?

[topaz blaze]

ah yeah thats afterburner, and yeah it's all stock, i've never really messed with fan curve on my gpu too often

but yeah it can't go any higher than that

oh yeah I should probably mention, it's an FE card

so it already doesnt have great cooling

[shrewd juniper]

Looks weird

[topaz blaze]

indeed, I just moved the 90c up with the rest but yeah nah it's pretty much maxed out all the time

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhh usually the curve is in percentages

Mb just use 100% instead of the curve at that point

[topaz blaze]

makes sense

[topaz blaze]

I just put an aoi gpu cooler on my 2080ti and it works amazing @topaz blaze

[low pumice]

https://youtu.be/Fw5UHFTl--0

[marsh badge]

chonk

[shrewd juniper]

Probs still like 100c on an i5 XD

[low pumice]

@shrewd juniper 100c with a 11900k, but they talk about that

https://youtu.be/khbvxsPTI84

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh ntb,

Cant listen atm

[low pumice]

With fully passive, 11900k pulling 115w at 100c

[shrewd juniper]

Damm impressive

[low pumice]

With semi-passive (add 1 fan), 11900k pulling 175w at 100c

[shrewd juniper]

👀

Noctua sprinkling fairy dust on that passive cooler r sum lol

[low pumice]

You can watch that second video when you have time

And it's not like they're adding a jet engine, that fan is made to be silent, 12dba measurement according to Noctua

[shrewd juniper]

Damm nice

Basically inaudible

[topaz blaze]

How can i improve the air flow in my prebuilt case?

[low pumice]

new case

side panel off

drill holes in front panel

front panel off

more fans and hope it does something

[languid gale]

If you’re drilling holes make sure to take out every component and clean the case out thoroughly

[boreal sphinx]

Or just pull the front /side panel off and then drill in it

[late atlas]

anyone know the best low maintenance sub ambient cooling solutions i don't need it to be quiet or sub zero i am just tired of literally cooking myself

[fierce mulch]

Is it worth it to save up for a aio? I have a 212 Evo black rn but I don't know if it's good enough to keep up with some bigger games

[timid carbon]

What CPU

[fierce mulch]

I7-10700

[timid carbon]

Yeah imo the 212 isnt good enough

look into the arctic freezer II 280mm or an ek aio 280mm or a lian li galahad 280mm

240 and lower aios arent as good

[fierce mulch]

Do those fit lga 1200 socket?

[timid carbon]

Coolers dont fit a socket

they go on top of the cpu

[fierce mulch]

I meant

The mounting things

[timid carbon]

yep

will fit

[fierce mulch]

Ty

I will look into them

[timid carbon]

NP

[fierce mulch]

Anyway

Time to sleep

3 am

Lol

[shrewd juniper]

Ln2 is the only sub ambient Afaik, def not good maintenance

[shrewd juniper]

A scythe fuma 2 would also do if you want to save some money

[late atlas]

i was just thinking of getting an external fish chiller and rout liquid cooling outside of my case

[shrewd juniper]

Fish chiller?

Unless you popped it into an ice maker or something the water would get hot after a while lol

[idle tiger]

Aquarium chillers are common in benching setups, something like a Hailea hc500.

But yeah, don't do that, just get a nice aio or something.

[topaz blaze]

I just put a $60 air cooler on my i9-10900 and removed the power limit and haven’t seen over 50c so IMO that could be a better option. I have a video of the install in my vod on twitch, same name, on Saturday if you want to check it out

[knotty eagle]

What are you using to test the temps?

[fierce mulch]

Just the msi dragon center

[knotty eagle]

I meant what software while you're reading 50c

[low pumice]

Ya, chiller is also sub ambient

[timid carbon]

intel cryo cooler

[shrewd juniper]

Is it actually sub ambient tho?

[timid carbon]

Yep

sub ambient isnt sub zero

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh crap yeah big brain

[safe sage]

Unless ambient IS zero…. 😂🤪

[timid carbon]

ambient doesnt mean outside the house. If it is 0C or lower inside the house, you have bigger problems than your cpu

[safe sage]

Lol I know what ambient means, it was a joke 😂. You could remotely locate your radiator outside 😂

I’m lurking off and on here because I’m considering a change or upgrade to my cpu cooling solutions I’m just being indecisive at the moment

[gray prairie]

I just built my pc yesterday snd my H510 case fans won’t spin or anything does anyone know why?

[languid gale]

Are they plugged in correctly?

[gray prairie]

Yes Into the correct headers and everything

[languid gale]

Hmm did they ever work?

And are they detected by your PC?

[ivory sluice]

can someone help me lower my gpu temps

[shrewd juniper]

Download msi afterburner and then you can make a more aggressive fan curve

[timid carbon]

What GPU

[timid carbon]

Pato msi afterburner isnt great for amd cards btw

[ivory sluice]

2060

with a td500 mesh

[shrewd juniper]

It is

I used for my 380 😛

[timid carbon]

AMD radeon software is far better for amd cards

more customisation

and still very accurate

[shrewd juniper]

Does it even do fan curve?

[timid carbon]

Yep

it has everything

[ivory sluice]

is this fine

[timid carbon]

YUCK

[ivory sluice]

what

my temps are horrible

this cooler is bad

[timid carbon]

Thats the worst curve ive seen till date

[ivory sluice]

help me then lol

[timid carbon]

Give me a min lol

[ivory sluice]

when i games its like 83

lol

[timid carbon]

Thats fine

83 is completely fine

[ivory sluice]

it throttles i think

[timid carbon]

nope

[ivory sluice]

as i play my frames drop lower and lower

[timid carbon]

83 is 100% fine

[ivory sluice]

just what curve do i use

[timid carbon]

use those values

drag the slider to those values

[shrewd juniper]

Why 33 at 30 lol

[timid carbon]

lowest it goes

It has auto stop tho

which is on

so its basically off at 30C

which I have never hit anyway so its fine

anyway off to bios update

[ivory sluice]

is this better

@timid carbon

@shrewd juniper

^

[shrewd juniper]

Intervals should be 5 or 10 smh

Move everything to the left by 10c

Also you don't need so many intervals

[ivory sluice]

my games get blurry when i play

[shrewd juniper]

?

[ivory sluice]

idk

[shrewd juniper]

That's not an overheating issue then

[ivory sluice]

someone told me it was

[shrewd juniper]

80c aint overheating

Not even throttling

[ivory sluice]

it gets close to 90 sometimes

[shrewd juniper]

All games?

[ivory sluice]

yeah

even gta san andreas

[shrewd juniper]

Do you run any overclocks?

[ivory sluice]

no

xmp

[shrewd juniper]

Idk then

[ivory sluice]

ok

my cpu gets to like 70c when gaming

[timid carbon]

Tell that to my card

[timid carbon]

Thats what I told him

[shrewd juniper]

Also perfectly fine

[shrewd juniper]

INTERVALS SHOULD BE 5 OR 10 MITTENS'S RX 570

[timid carbon]

why mp4 no embed

eh cant be asked just download and watch

[shrewd juniper]

Remind me in like 3 hours just in work atm

[shrewd juniper]

Big oof, 35 much better tho yes

[timid carbon]

I agree

[gray prairie]

no they never worked and no they are not detected idk what to do

[gray prairie]

should i just go buy new ones??

[grave wedge]

i bought a used NZXT kraken x41 and i need a amd mounting bracket

can someone help me find one that works

[languid gale]

I think thats your best bet @gray prairie

[languid gale]

https://www.amazon.com/Mounting-Bracket-Corsair-Hydro-Thermaltake/dp/B07GP24BGN/ref=pd_sbs_6/137-2950128-5529358?pd_rd_w=vXQAU&pf_rd_p=a35b3889-328a-403a-834b-e40052269fcd&pf_rd_r=XQ2MFFGK4NYV4RZXQCVK&pd_rd_r=87163433-2001-41b0-9d9a-7c8c6380747f&pd_rd_wg=8sISf&pd_rd_i=B07GP24BGN&psc=1

[gray prairie]

Well idk then cause I just went and got new ones and they still ain’t working do yk what I could do?

[ivory sluice]

what does it mean if my temps used to be good now they are worse

[topaz blaze]

Should I put my arctic freezer II 360mm fans on the side or top of case

[shrewd juniper]

Probs dust in your case or you messed with fan speeds

[shrewd juniper]

Top if possible, if not side

[timid carbon]

Did you remove cpu cooler after putting it on the first time

[ivory sluice]

@shrewd juniper I have reset my fan curves and cleaned da pc

I reapplied thermal paste

[shrewd juniper]

What temps you getting?

[ivory sluice]

Like 70c on cpu

And 85c on gpu

[timid carbon]

what load are you putting on it?

[ivory sluice]

They were like 10-20 c lower

[timid carbon]

what paste did you use

[ivory sluice]

Just playing games

[timid carbon]

how did you put it on

[shrewd juniper]

70c is fine 85 is a bit hot

[ivory sluice]

My thermal paste

Wym lol

A grain of rice

And nth1

I think its called

[shrewd juniper]

Did you remember to screw in cross pattern?

[timid carbon]

a grain of rice isnt enough

[ivory sluice]

Yah

[timid carbon]

unless you use a spreader

pull off the cooler and put more on

[ivory sluice]

K

[timid carbon]

in a large x pattern

[ivory sluice]

Tomorrow

I'm tired asf

This is how much I put

Lol

I took a pic

[timid carbon]

you need like 3 times that

[ivory sluice]

Lol

What about my gpu

It's getting to like 85c

2060 ventus

[timid carbon]

agressive fan curve

whats ur fan curve rn?

[ivory sluice]

For my gpu

[timid carbon]

move everything 5 degrees to the left

[ivory sluice]

Ok

What else could I do

[timid carbon]

move it 5 more degrees to the left

[ivory sluice]

Lol

Anything else that may help

[shrewd juniper]

Get more fans for your case?

What case do you have again?

Also what cpu cooler do you have?

[magic wave]

I want to get my 970 under 80c at some point

For now I'm waiting on a couple P14s to fill out my front panel and a pack of fan splitters that seem to be on the track to take a while

I think the P14s come today

[shrewd juniper]

Repaste probably will do

[magic wave]

Yea I should repaste it lol

It would be nice if there was some dust blocking it a little, cause then I'd have to do less work

Gotta wait to open it up to find out

[ivory sluice]

@shrewd juniper td500 mesh and all fan slots are filled I have a cooler master hyper 212 black

[shrewd juniper]

Which ones are intake and which are exhaust?

[ivory sluice]

Umm 3 fans as intake that came with my case and 4 noctua fans as out take @shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

Nh a12x25s?

[ivory sluice]

Idek the fans were like 16 each

They had good reviews

[shrewd juniper]

Maybe see what your fan curve for your case and cpu fans are like in the bios

[boreal sphinx]

Might just be ventus fault

[little skiff]

Don't you generally want more intake fans than exhaust?

[knotty eagle]

Equal or more for positive pressure to keep dust out

[topaz blaze]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XmDkcf/deepcool-gamerstorm-captain-240x-white-644-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-captain-240x-white does anyone know how good this aio is?

[knotty sparrow]

4/5 stars
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-gamer_storm-captain_240_pro-cpu-cooler,6295.html

[topaz blaze]

that's 240 pro not x tho

i found a review on kitguru

they seem to like it

8.5/10

[knotty eagle]

That was also 2 years ago lol

It'd be worth another $10 for EK or ARctic

[shrewd juniper]

Afaik it's fine but i wouldn't recommend buying one when the arctic is like 10$ more

[boreal sphinx]

Also it looks bad

[topaz blaze]

Is putting fans behind my aio worth it? There’s a term for it but I don’t remember it

I would but I can’t figure out how I would go about it

[knotty eagle]

No, it's better to push through a radiator than to pull

and push/pull doesn't add enough to warrant the effort

[topaz blaze]

Well push or poop whatever is better, so it’s not super worth I take it if it’s a pain

[knotty eagle]

Running fans on both sides of your radiator doesn't net enough cooling to be worth it IMO

[topaz blaze]

Alright I’ll just put the radiator on, I’ll have 3 left over fans but whatever

[knotty eagle]

Save em for when another fan goes out

I save the fans I don't use

I've needed them

[topaz blaze]

I’ve had the same Corsair 120mms for the past 3 years on the past build and am passing them on lmao

So yea

[knotty eagle]

I invested into some Corsair ML's a while back

[low pumice]

Wouldn't be too surprised if they give out in the next few years

[topaz blaze]

Most people say Corsair fans suck

But a fan is a fan

[low pumice]

They absolutely suck for value

The price does not justify the fan you get

But the fans are decent

[topaz blaze]

I just liked the rgb back then and bought them probably

Is it bad for aio radiator to be on the side/front of the case

My cpu is higher end compared to my gpu

Instead of the top

[low pumice]

Top mount is still optimal

But front mount is ok if the pump is below the highest point of the radiator

[topaz blaze]

I was told top was better for gpu and side was better then cpu but I can switch the fans over that I put on the top atm if I should still go with the top

Only thing I’m concerned about atm is when I put in my m.2 ssd is a little bent even if the screw is barley tightened

Or curved

However u wanna describe it

[knotty eagle]

Uh

Is there a post under the end of the SSD?

AKA standoff?

It should be perfectly flat

One of these?

[topaz blaze]

that wont do anything lmao

fans is at 100% @ 80

its hitting 85c

[timid carbon]

it would increase the time taken to hit that temp

[ivory sluice]

Is this decent

[topaz blaze]

It’s a fan

Yes it’s decent

[shrewd juniper]

Don't get the silent version the p12 is already practically silent

[ivory sluice]

Ok

How about this

[topaz blaze]

If he recs the exact fan you pull up he obviously thinks that fan is good

So yes

[ivory sluice]

Lol

It won't deliver to my house

It says it can deliver

Is there any decent 1pc fans that are cheap

[shrewd juniper]

Good good

[shrewd juniper]

P12 lol

[ivory sluice]

What abou this one

[little lake]

thats the one he said XD but yes

I got those

I like them

[ivory sluice]

It's says tc

P12 tc

[knotty eagle]

Those are temp control, no idea about those

[ivory sluice]

Oh well I just ordered those

Lol

[topaz blaze]

GG

[ivory sluice]

They seem decent

[river lichen]

cuteness intensifies

[unique lily]

Milk#1025 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[topaz blaze]

Wtf

Pog

[low pumice]

Nf-a4?

[river lichen]

[low pumice]

Kawaii

[uneven sleet]

Anyone here got experience with bitspower?

Stumbled across someone selling an 011 dynamic with front distro plate, rad, cpu block, and tubing for 200 but don't know much about bitspower and their quality

[merry torrent]

Please @ me if you respond.

I purchased the following fans: https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Moonlight-Motherboard-Computer-Multiple/dp/B07XDYKC91

I have the GIGABYTE AORUS ELITE WIFI X570 motherboard.

I downloaded Fusion 2.0 so I could control the lighting of the fans but they don't show up. I've restarted the system, made sure everything is plugged in, all the drivers are up to date. Any ideas?

[topaz blaze]

I just blow on my CPU to make it cool

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LauL5JxYis
You don't even need to do that much

[topaz blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-meme-sad-gif-11746329

[bleak canyon]

Is it possible to attach a 120mm noctua fan to the dark rock pro 4?

[shrewd juniper]

Did you follow these steps?

[shrewd juniper]

I mean yeah but why would you, it already has 2 fans and it's a top tier cooler and not all noctua fans are great

[bleak canyon]

cause I have a spare 120mm noctua fan and spare fan clips from the cooler

So why not use everythiung I paid for lol

[shrewd juniper]

It would be better off in your case most likely

[bleak canyon]

I have no more room, so I want to utilize it

[shrewd juniper]

I mean you can try it if ya fancy

[bleak canyon]

Alright!!!

[little skiff]

I have those Moonlight fans. They're very pretty. Not even all that hard to set up, though the cable mess is annoying.

[merry torrent]

Yeah the cable mess is annoying lol Do you know how I can change the outside circular strip? I want the fans and the ring to be different colors.

[alpine hornet]

how should i mount my AIO in my case? verticle?

im not really sure...

and also, how should my case fans be set up?

[shrewd juniper]

If you can mount it on the top

[alpine hornet]

i dont know much about AIOs, which one is really better?

[rose isle]

all you need to know: when your pc is standing, the pipes input/output on the radiator are HIGHER than the AIO cpu block.

[alpine hornet]

because heat rises?

or another reason?

[rose isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk

[alpine hornet]

good ol' steve from gamers nexus

[rose isle]

yeah 😆 . in short: you want to be sure that theres always water in the CPU block (where the pump sits), and mounting the rad with the barbs above the CPU block ensures that.

This only applies to AIOs which have the pump in the CPU block. There are ones were the pump is attached to the RAD

[quartz gale]

So, I want to buy some argb case fans. I noticed the coolermaster mf120 halo and there sickle flow are on prime day. Anyone have any reccomendations between the two or grab whichever i like? (Yeah I know some person is going to be like just grab a set of p12s, but I am a sucker for rgb)

[languid gale]

Well there are RGB p12s

[little skiff]

I love the fans I have. Been playing with the mobo RGB software to figure out what color and effects I like. (Rainbow mode is neat for a little while, but not long-term.)

[gritty oasis]

i have my aio installed correctly like in gamers nexus video but it managed to collect air bubbles and now it won’t stop making this loud noise

[shrewd juniper]

Give your pc a gentle rocking back and forward

[gritty oasis]

will try that

[gritty oasis]

ya that didn’t work lmao i shook it while tilting it different ways and just standing up right too

i don’t mind the noise that much but i’m pretty sure the air bubbles wear the aio down over time if i’m not mistaken

[knotty eagle]

I disagree with better

Ok and better should be swapped

Air goes up, not down. Get air in the pump with better and it will stay there until you move things.

[azure crown]

just dont get air in the pump

[knotty sparrow]

The reason Jay said tubes up was just OK is it's noisier than tubes down

[knotty eagle]

Eh, depends. A lot.

[knotty sparrow]

It's one of those things that's hard to generalize, sure.

[knotty eagle]

Ive dealt with so many cooling systems and it bothers me XD

[low pumice]

There's also get air at the top of the rad and it will likely stay there without having to be forced upwards towards the pump :)

In the better, against the ok, but at least we can agree both are better than pump being higher than rad.

[azure crown]

fixed it

[low pumice]

Wat

[azure crown]

oh also @tropic hare

[tropic hare]

dab

[azure crown]

dab

[low pumice]

dab

[gritty oasis]

all this for a gif cooler! curse nzxt

[low pumice]

Nzxt is so bad at sucking that their cases can't suck in air

[shrewd juniper]

Dab

[subtle gyro]

Im getting an i7-10700k with a meshify c case. Does anyone recommend any good coolers?

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2 if you want air

Arctic liquid ii , ek aio, lian li galahad if you want aio

[subtle gyro]

what size aio do you think I should get?

[shrewd juniper]

I'd get 280mm/360mm if it fits your case

If not 240 will do

Just don't bother your money on a 120mm

[subtle gyro]

Are NZXT Kraken X63 aios good?

[shrewd juniper]

No

The 3 i lifted above are the 3 best, a lot others are meh

[fierce crow]

There is enough paste here for x ?a syringe of 2g

[shrewd juniper]

Plenty

[alpine hornet]

I could fit a 360mm AIO on the top with a P500A, correct?

[low pumice]

yes

[alpine hornet]

wont i have to remove a something? like a drive bay?

[low pumice]

I believe you don't

[alpine hornet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Phanteks/comments/hxmhir/can_you_fit_a_360_triple_fan_aio_in_the_p500a/ ion know

[low pumice]

I mean, none of the drive bays should actually be in the way

drive bays are over here

[alpine hornet]

hmm lmao

also, what is the velco for? its not cable managment, i dont think so at least

[low pumice]

it is iirc

[alpine hornet]

huh

also should i mount my AIO with the tubes on the left from the front?

on the top

[low pumice]

Uh?

That doesn't really matter as long as radiator is mounted top

[jagged nova]

So the fans that I am getting for my case, are the Corsair SP120s...and they are iCUE. Do I still need to hook up the controller for them if I am using iCUE, or can I just leave them out?

[shrewd juniper]

If they plugged into the rgb hub should be fine but idk rgb be Hella confusing so don't quote me on that

[jagged nova]

Okay because like with my keyboard...it just controls it through the USB cable, so I was thinking that iCUE would be able to detect the fans when they are just connected to the mobo and not to the whole controller.

[shrewd juniper]

That makes sense but idk if it will work out that way lol

[jagged nova]

No I'm looking now at a YouTube video that I found...it seems the only way iCUE will work is if all of the fans are hooked to the controller, and then the controller is plugged into a USB on the mobo to control it.

I think...

I guess I will just have to find out eventually.

[shrewd juniper]

That makes sense yeah

You could use your mobo software instead if you plugged directly into mobo i think

[boreal sphinx]

^

[rose isle]

what he said

[rose isle]

All corsair stuff must be hooked to the corsair hub. if you connect them directly to anything else, you will have a bad time

[jagged nova]

Okay I will do that. Does it use up USB space on my mobo tho that I won't be able to use elsewhere? It said something about needing to hook to a USB spot.

[rose isle]

Yes, you can also if you have a spare mini USB cable connect it to a USB port on the back of your motherboard

[jagged nova]

Okay yea I think I can do that.

I have a Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi

I also have a USB link that I can plug into the back so I'm not worried about running out of USB ports.

[wary brook]

Uhh guys I need help

[subtle gyro]

is a be quiet pure loop 280mm aio good for an i7 10700k

[stiff crypt]

Overclocking a 10700k, It'd hold up fine

One of the better 280mm AIO's

Performance is slightly behind that of Liquid Freezer II and Eisbaer Aurora

Slightly louder too

What price you getting it for?

[subtle gyro]

105

usd

are nzxt or corsair aios good?

[knotty eagle]

They're meh

[stiff crypt]

No to both

105 USD isn't a good price

[knotty eagle]

Arctic Freezer and EK for top cooling. Lian Li too but more expensive

[stiff crypt]

Eisbaer Aurora 240/LF II 240mm are cheaper and have better performance

Spending 7 bucks more gets you LF II 280mm

[knotty eagle]

$180

Ouch

[subtle gyro]

https://www.amazon.com/EK-Premium-EK-Vardar-High-Performance-Computer/dp/B0842Z9WYG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=ek+240mm+aio&qid=1624507128&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExOU1PRjQ1Q05aMVdGJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzY5NzA2M0ZFMkdQNk1CN1IzNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjkyMDA1MjlBWU1NV0NKQ1FaJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== is this a good price?

[knotty eagle]

Ya, that's normal price

Arctic has an RGB/aRGB version as well but the pump block looks a little odd due to the VRM fan

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B08WR9SFTD

Right around the same price

[subtle gyro]

how does their preformance compare?

[knotty eagle]

They're withing 2-3C in testing

Lemme grab you a chart

[low pumice]

gamers nexus good reviews.

[knotty eagle]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3596-ek-aio-drgb-360-240-review-liquid-coolers

Keep in mind

Arctic freezer 360 isn't on that one

[low pumice]

I'll grab a screenshot including freezer ii 360mm then

[subtle gyro]

i need a 240 or 280

[knotty eagle]

Ah

that chart compares them then

Arctic freezer is ahead by 2C

The difference between the EK and AF though is 1-2 C

nothing major

[subtle gyro]

ok

[knotty eagle]

and that's a 200W load test

[subtle gyro]

would the rgb work with my motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144302?Item=N82E16813144302

[knotty eagle]

yes

You have both RGB and aRGB headers

[low pumice]

board should have 2xRGB and 2xaRGB headers, as long as you're not using all of em

[subtle gyro]

would the drgb ek work with it?

[knotty eagle]

Yes

[low pumice]

drgb = argb

[knotty eagle]

You have both headers

[subtle gyro]

oh

i didnt know they were the same

[knotty eagle]

Ya

[low pumice]

digital rgb, addressable rgb, same thing, both 5v 3pin

[knotty eagle]

RGB gets confusing quickly

[low pumice]

but rgb, nothing fancy, just rgb, is 12v 4pin

[subtle gyro]

is there a program that just connects to different brands of rgb things because I have rgb from like 4 different companies in the pc im going to builkd

[low pumice]

oh yea, rgb is extremely annoying from different brands

[knotty eagle]

if it's all on the motherboard, that's easy

[low pumice]

all you can do is hope they work with your mobo rgb software

[knotty eagle]

If it's USB, more difficult

[subtle gyro]

does ram work with mobo software

its trident z rgb

[knotty eagle]

It should

Should being the key word

There is nothing certain with RGB/aRGB software

[low pumice]

all you can do is hope, not too much you can do about it

openrgb and such aren't even compatible with everything

[subtle gyro]

ok

thanks for the help

[shrewd juniper]

My board with 1 rgb header 😎

[rose isle]

youre missing out on serious frames. sort yourself out

[shrewd juniper]

The only rgb ish things in my pc are my gpu logo, a line on my mobo and a white only cpu fan sooo

[rose isle]

bro. you never gonna get 150fps in Cyberpunk in 4k without proper RGB

[shrewd juniper]

Ik what was i thinking, my kewb and mouse have some tho so mb 100fps XD1

[topaz blaze]

Would recommend this if you can handle holding your laptop for hours... best cooling... lowest Temps at 17 degree Celsius

[marsh badge]

That's gonna eventually destroy your wrists

Best way is just find something to place the laptop on that keeps it elevated

[shrewd juniper]

Laptops stands that just hold it with a slim piece on both sides are the best for that

[marsh badge]

yah

[topaz blaze]

ik.. just did this for a test and worked well XD

[shrewd juniper]

Your wrists look like they boutta snap bruv

[topaz blaze]

they are my smol brothers fists 🤣

[magic lark]

I can vouch for the arctic freezer 2, it's pretty gud

[ruby arrow]

should I be seeing a 15C temp difference between my AIO's sensor and my CPU? (using HWInfo64)

[shrewd juniper]

I'd trust hw info

[ruby arrow]

It's showing there too. 50Cish on the package (and within a few degrees the same on the cores), 35C on the AIO

[low pumice]

pretty sure the '35c on the aio' is the measurement they're getting for the liquid temperature

not the temperature of the cpu from the aio

[ruby arrow]

hmm, okay. Any way I can get them closer, or should I not worry?

[low pumice]

that's just how it works, the coolant doesn't get as hot as the cpu itself, just thermodynamics

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah thats what i was thinking too

[verbal thicket]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Individually-Customizable/dp/B086KXKTR2/ref=asc_df_B086KXKTR2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416794793908&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5688357251675760448&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1016418&hvtargid=pla-909748304818&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=95587149484&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416794793908&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5688357251675760448&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1016418&hvtargid=pla-909748304818
are these good fans?

[humble fossil]

hf120’s cheaper

[dry dawn]

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-ICEFLOW-Connector-Addressable-Management/dp/B08CDDTZ8G/

hows this aio?

i really like the cpu block on it

[shrewd juniper]

I think it's just mediocre, have a look at arctic liquid ii rgb, ek aio or lian li galahad

See if you like the look of them

[rose isle]

pump on the rad and double fan is an interesting approach

[dry dawn]

on the ltt tier list it was like

a tier i think?

heres a review i found

the performance is nothing spectacular

but im running a 5600x

at stock

[shrewd juniper]

The only ltt tier list ik of is the psu one

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't trust that idk if d15 should be performing worse than a Ml240

[dry dawn]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

@shrewd juniper

the d15 is rather old now

isnt it

2014

?

[shrewd juniper]

Idk about this list tbh

I cannot trust a list that puts arctic ek and galahad in the same tier as kraken

[dry dawn]

kraken is a good cooler

i dont see why not

[shrewd juniper]

So, it's still great

[shrewd juniper]

Not really

[dry dawn]

mind you

those are all different models

[shrewd juniper]

Some of the krakens are fine

But that's it

[dry dawn]

right

[shrewd juniper]

There's a good few flaws with that list

[dry dawn]

it isnt really organized like a regular tier list

its like relative cooling performance to competitors in the same segment]

like theres a 120 mm cooler in tier a

or tier 1

i think that means its just good for a 120 mm cooler

[shrewd juniper]

An obvious flaw is having u12a in tier 3 for example

[shrewd juniper]

That would be a stupid way to make a list

Doesn't make sense

[dry dawn]

why?

if you were only looking for a 120mm cooler

but theyre all in tier

f

because obviously compared to

a 240mm or 360

theyre garbage

it wouldnt be very helpful

[shrewd juniper]

Because it's an overall ranking

If you wanted a 120

You would look at a tier list of just the 120s or pick the 120s in order

Also they wouldn't be f

120s are bad price to perf but not horrible

[shrewd juniper]

Coolers in tier 1 being better than coolers in tier 2 means it's a normal tier list lol

That just means a low tier cooler won't struggle and will do for an i3/r3/r5/i5

Etc

[dry dawn]

i was referring more to the first sentence

[shrewd juniper]

yeah thats what my 2nd sentence was a respond to

[wide glade]

Think I should put some ML120’s/140’s in my case? Rn I’m running be quiet! Pure Wings 2 (highspeed) (2 140’s on top, 3 120’s in front, and one 120 in back)

[dry dawn]

Those fans seem to be sufficient

[unique lily]

Decks#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stiff crypt]

Pretty terrible list*

The only worthwhile tier list on LTT is the one for PSU's

the one for SSD's and coolers are both trash

[low pumice]

Ya

Vrm one may be half useful tho

[stiff valley]

What’s the best+cheapest liquid CPU cooler? Idc about RGB, just that it’s not very loud

[knotty eagle]

Arctic freezer ii

[magic lark]

There's a cooler tier list?

[knotty eagle]

Yes but it's the suck

Check Gamers Nexus for cooler reviews

[magic lark]

Arctic freezer 2 is tier 1

[low pumice]

the tier list still sucks

the Corsair A500 is tier 2 when the U12a is tier 3..????????

Freezer 50, A500, which are both in tier 2, get outperformed by D15s, which is in tier 3 for some reason

and that's a generalization over multiple benches

d15s comes on top everywhere

[shrewd juniper]

Tis what i was saying the other day but sadge was defending it

[low pumice]

Lel

[tender oak]

What cooler master fans would you guys recommend?

[low pumice]

Why coolermaster?

[shrewd juniper]

Best overall fan for value and great fan is arctic p12

[tender oak]

Or any other fans in general

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12

[tender oak]

But was looking for something on budget

[low pumice]

Arctic p12

[tender oak]

I’ll check those out for sure

[low pumice]

Best varient is pst co, for the double ball bearing, but the normal pst varient is good too, it's 30$ for a 5 pack of the normal varient,

[sage reef]

Greetings, I have 6 LianLi SL120s in my rig and 4 of them are spinning, lights on and everything. The other 2 have their lights on, but the fans aren't spinning. All are connected to the LL fan hub. Any solution on how to get the other two to spin as well? Thanks!

[knotty sparrow]

If the hub has external power like a molex or sata plug make sure that's in, and unplug and replug the fans that aren't spinning (while it's off of course)

[sage reef]

Thx. I'll try checking all the connectors. I also have a stock fan I can use to test.

[spare ember]

can someone let me know a good air cooler, something mid range like $50 or lower

[shrewd juniper]

For what cpu?

[languid gale]

That doesn’t look right, a Capellix at the very top?

[low pumice]

it's just bad tier list

[shrewd juniper]

It's very not good

[languid gale]

I can tell

[shrewd juniper]

Sadge would disagree for some reason, i reckon their smoking the good stuff

[spare ember]

asking for a friend, it's a ryzen 5 2600

[shrewd juniper]

Id cooling se 224xt, gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5

[little lake]

Where can you get the long screws that usually screw into a heat sink

Going for a top mount and need some longer screws

[chrome kestrel]

hey guys, i have an arctic cooling freezer II 240mm and it doesnt fit in the top,backside because the mobo’s has a cover on the back of the io shield.. is it ok to put the cooler in the top,front side?

[magic scarab]

Yes

That’s how I have my 360, still keeps my 3800x under 60c

[topaz blaze]

Zalman CNPS 16x, Real aRGB LED CPU Cooler with 4D Patented Corrugated Fin Design, Quiet 120mm RGB Fan, for Intel & AMD Ready (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZX4ZSQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_SV5RM9D4N04NAXMVM6DS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 I got this for my i9-10900 and too the wattage restriction off and haven’t seen it get above 55c

[little lake]

https://www.amazon.com/XSPC-Radiator-Screw-Black-16-Pack/dp/B015BSAQ0O/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+long+screws&qid=1624946428&s=electronics&sr=1-3

are these universal?

[magic scarab]

good question

what are you buying them for?

a rad I'm guessing?

[little lake]

uhhh top mounting some fans

push/pull

wait i wonder if i can install them from the bottom..

nvm dont think so because of rad

[magic scarab]

normal fans?

[little lake]

yes

[magic scarab]

dont think you need those monsters

what case?

[little lake]

5000d

[magic scarab]

cant you just use normal fans in that thing?

[little lake]

I have the rad mounted on inside-top of case

want to mount 3 more fans on top

[knotty sparrow]

push/pull isn't going to be any better than a simple push or pull config

[little lake]

like this for reference

https://youtu.be/L2ervXeVk0o?t=1594

[shrewd juniper]

The rad/aio should come with screws no?

[knotty sparrow]

Not if they want to add 3 more fans than it came with to the rad

[shrewd juniper]

Ohhh but why lol 6 fan rads hardly do a thing

[knotty sparrow]

That's what I'm saying, push/pull isn't worth it. Maybe 1-2 degrees difference best case scenario.

[calm yarrow]

I got a Castle 280EX cooler and what's the normal temps for those?

I've got an 11700k going with it

mounted to the top of my case

Rn the temps at idle are 43 degrees

[low pumice]

temps have too many factors, and idle temps tell you not much other than room temperature, stress tests better for steady state temps

[calm yarrow]

I'll run like a 20 minute test with OCCT real quick

[low pumice]

small dataset for temp on occt

[calm yarrow]

btw temp should I look at for CPU

like CPU Package or?

because CPU package is averaging about 72 under load

[low pumice]

prob want to look at highest core temp, but tdie will work

[calm yarrow]

yeah 73 is the highest core temp

[calm yarrow]

one of my radiator fans broke

straight up just flew out the fan

I only noticed after realizing how much it shook after the fans got unbalanced

[low pumice]

it WHAT

[calm yarrow]

yeah one of the fins went bop

[low pumice]

huh

[calm yarrow]

One of the blades

were too brittle or something

and broke

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhhh sounds like you mounted it incorrectly

[calm yarrow]

How do you mount a radiator fan wrong?

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhh screw it in wrong?

[low pumice]

fan blade coming off doesn't sound like an installation issue

[shrewd juniper]

Ohhhh i read the whole fan lol

[calm yarrow]

Yea I talked to the seller

and they hooked me up with $20 so I ended up just getting like some Silent Wings 3

[shrewd juniper]

I'm going blind holy 💩

Hmm idk how they perform but better than no fan lol

[calm yarrow]

The thing is, the blades are pretty like tuff in there

So the only way it could break is from manufacturing defects

[low pumice]

eh, there's more possibilities, but it's most likely not user error

[calm yarrow]

Perhaps

Y'all think I can break like an opposite blade and then have it balanced lol?

[low pumice]

that sounds like a bad idea

I'd just take it off

[calm yarrow]

yep I got it unplugged and just running with 1 fan

Hopefully the replacement fans dont take too long to send

It's most definitely gonna look out of place but, it's all good

[hollow crescent]

Anyone currently running a Corsair 5000D Airflow?

I just watched the video about about the case and I'm curious to how much better adding three fans to the side intake would be vs just having three fans in the front and a top AIO.

[stiff valley]

my stock R5 3600 with stock cooler is going from 55-60 degrees to 75-80 with a twitch stream maximized, minimizing it immediately goes down to 55-60

Wow.. it only goes up to 80 when the twitch stream is on the 4K monitor

Goes up to 65 on the 1080p monitor

[little lake]

time for aio? 👀

[proven solstice]

not for a 3600

vetroo v5/se-224 instead

[shrewd juniper]

No lol its just a 3600

Vetroo v5, id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400

[stiff valley]

I could get the grammaxx 400.. but I am willing to pay a little more to get some serious cooling

Whats the step up from the 400?

[stiff valley]

i might order the grammaxx 400 and a noctua one off amazon and return which is worse

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2 is the step up but its not worth it for a ryzen 5 3600

[grave wedge]

Would this be the correct way to mount the radiator

[low pumice]

top mount if possible

[grave wedge]

Like up there

[shrewd juniper]

Is that a 120mm rad (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

But ye top

[grave wedge]

I believe it is 120

[shrewd juniper]

:(

[topaz blaze]

Correct place to mount is the trash lol jk

[steep vine]

on a scale from 1-10, is Noctua case fans worth getting? asking those who have experience with them

[grave wedge]

It’s either this way or on the back like it came

What should I do

[coral oak]

whats a good setup of 3 argb fans in white thats cheap?

[unique pendant]

https://gelidstore.com/products/stella-frost

[shrewd juniper]

No, just get arctic p12s

[magic wave]

Arctic p are very nice

I have two P14s in my pc

[shrewd juniper]

Very

[magic wave]

Whoosh and vroom

[shrewd juniper]

Indood ❄️

[molten moth]

is 176 degrees hot?

[sacred wren]

theres def better temps, if it gets up to around 200 id say stop whatever youre doing

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh what's that in not Americanese?

77c ish is fine

[timid carbon]

Lmao

[sacred wren]

176 is 80 in celsius

[timid carbon]

80 is fine

Under load tho

Not isle

Idle

[shrewd juniper]

Yeye

[shrewd juniper]

Well i did 170f to c and still close enough lol

[grave wedge]

It keeps the cpu 6 Celsius colder than the wraith prism under load

[topaz blaze]

wouldnt flipping rad and fan be more effective?

[grave wedge]

The screws are too short to do that

[grave wedge]

where do i get the driver for it

i click install but it does nothing

[rose tiger]

i5 11400 coolers? My friend wants a water cooler on his 800$ budget even though air coolers are way more budget friendly

[safe sage]

@grave wedge as long as the pump isnt the highest part of the aio loop you'll be fine

[marsh badge]

He doesn't need one for a 11400..

But if he so wants one, then arctic liquid freezer II

Or EK AIO

But it's just gonna be unnecessary spending

[safe sage]

tight budget but want a "custom" cooling solution, just pick up a mid tier tower. cooler master or arctic etc...

[uncut kindle]

So u want custom yet not custom?

[timid carbon]

A custom loop will be 400$

Maybe more

[safe sage]

i meant someone on a budget that wants something more than the stock cooler

ie "custom" hence the quotes

you can get a nice tower cooler for $30-50

[timid carbon]

I see

[uncut kindle]

o ok

[shrewd juniper]

That budget and aios don't mix at all, get them an id cooling se 224xt or gammaxx 400 or a vetroo v5

[marsh badge]

^

[glass otter]

Can I get some opinions on the airflow config that I’ve been using for my pc

I have 4 intakes and 1 exhaust so it has positive case pressure

2 of the intakes are also cooling a radiator

[livid dew]

Is one a top intake

[glass otter]

I’ll send pic

[livid dew]

K

[glass otter]

Exhaust on the back

Two top intakes

Two front intakes on the rad

[livid dew]

For better dust management put the fans on the inside of the rad

Otherwise it’s fine

I know people want that front rgb so it doesn’t matter that much

[glass otter]

Alright thank you for your opinions man

[shadow hemlock]

so is 80c when it starts to get super bad or just bad?

[sacred wren]

80c isn't awful if you're under full load, not ideal but unless it goes over 85 shouldn't be too bad

[shadow hemlock]

how heavily does having instant replay turned on affect gpu performance? i have it on just so i can save clips in games

[shrewd juniper]

You should use top exhaust imo, top intake is counter intuitive as hot air rises

[shrewd juniper]

Sounds like an improper mount

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on the gpu

[dull ridge]

is Noctua DH-15 enough for a 5950x?

[shrewd juniper]

Yes but i would get an arctic liquid ii 280mm/360mm instead it's cheaper/the same price and better

[boreal sphinx]

Looks better too and save you some case fans