old-cooling

[strange niche]

He did not ask anybody in particular yes yes he did

[timid carbon]

He asked ISimpForMales because they were having a discussion about a cooler

[strange niche]

He did not specify so there was no way for me to know.

[timid carbon]

Unless you took the time to read 2 messages above and 2 messages below that is

[sacred wren]

so i put my artic p12s in yesterday

i was told if i put a fan across from my heatsink it should be an exhayst

my cpu temps are now higher than they were before

i also have an intake right next to the cpu

Thats a fan on the left for intake, and I put an exhaust a little bit below on the side panel thay covers that part

[shrewd juniper]

What that doesn't make sense? Can you give a full picture of your case

[knotty eagle]

Fan on the left is exhaust. If you want it intake, the fan needs to have the motor frame on the inside

[sacred wren]

I got it figured out

Switching them to left is exhaust and the side panel is I take

[sacred wren]

got it working

kinda

cpu has a max temp of 79 on cpu playing valorant

which is better than 87

[sacred wren]

opinions on this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VFXSJ23/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08VFXSJ23&pd_rd_w=tfuFU&pf_rd_p=91afecf5-8b2e-41e2-9f11-dc6992c6eaa1&pd_rd_wg=lyTs9&pf_rd_r=YD8M78CP6B6WXGVGCRMB&pd_rd_r=d30c63af-f569-4b3d-8936-54ccfce9d804&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE2MUMzNDFYTEFQWVImZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5NDcyOTIzVlFDR0lXNklLNkxVJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwNDUwNTcxQ0k5QkY0WVMxWVpLJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

the cpu cooler i was going to get isnt going to be here until june 17th, so i ended up not buying it

[shrewd juniper]

Get a gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224xt if it's a i5/ryzen 5 cpu, if it's i7/ryzen 7 get a scythe fuma 2

[sacred wren]

its a 3600

most would be overkill for it but im prolly going to get a 5000 series rather than a full nother board when i upgrade

so im going to get a cpu cooler that could cool that

this? https://www.amazon.com/DEEP-COOL-GAMMAXX400V2-GAMMAXX-400/dp/B085G8WJCC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=gammaxx+400&qid=1622218914&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUTRVNFBZN1NFQjVIJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzMxNDAyMlpIVVJIS0lNQzNKJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNjEwNjkzMEdRRlJJUFlDQ1Q1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

[rose isle]

From robeytech

[sacred wren]

oh i watch him

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah that's one of them, if you're going to get a Ryzen 5000 tho least i would go is scythe fuma 2 for Ryzen 5/7 if you're going ryzen 9 just get an arctic liquid ii 240/280/360mm

[sacred wren]

i have no clue what this means

in relations tto different cpu fans

[shrewd juniper]

Dont think they were addressing you just saying in general i think

[sacred wren]

oh lmao

[magic lark]

Should top mount be intake or exhaust

I got the arctic freezer 2 240

[rose isle]

exhaust

[topaz blaze]

ok so im gonna grab an arctic fan hub and the 500dx comes with 3 140 non pwm 3pin fans, so is three any way i could control those?

also im still debating whether i should grab some 120mms

[shrewd juniper]

You can stick your 3 pin fans into the pwm hub/motherboard header

Also the 5000dx is supposed to come with a hub iirc

[topaz blaze]

it does?

[shrewd juniper]

Think so

[topaz blaze]

yea ik but i was wondering if there's ways to control the included fans

thorugh 3pin

[knotty sparrow]

3 pin fans are still controllable

You just use DC mode instead of PWM

[shrewd juniper]

Dc, so your bios or your motherboard software if you mean to set the fan curve

[knotty sparrow]

Best bet is to put your 4 pin fans on the hub so they can use PWM mode and put the 3 pin fans into other headers

[shrewd juniper]

It will still control them on pwm mode my stock fans are plugged into my hub with my p12 pwm as primary fan so i have it on pwm mode in bios

[topaz blaze]

also im not sure if im jsut blind but i dont see anything about included fan hubs on the 500dx page

[knotty sparrow]

Interesting, the controller would need to have some sort of intelligent control for that to work since in PWM mode the voltage is constant and fan speed is controlled by modulating pulses

[shrewd juniper]

Idk mb it does because my case fans don't run at 100%(i don't think anyway) as they are quite quiet and they still spin so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[topaz blaze]

also also what'll happen if i plug the stock fans into the hub and just use em alongside the pwms

[knotty sparrow]

Depends on your hub

[shrewd juniper]

That's what i have works fine for me

[topaz blaze]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Case-Fan-Hub-Distributor/dp/B0887VG14J

[shrewd juniper]

If not you can always voltage control pwm fans still

[knotty sparrow]

Some hubs are just dumb repeaters and others are smarter

[shrewd juniper]

I have an ezdiy hub i think

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah even if it doesn't work with mixed pwm/dc mode you can set them all to DC

[topaz blaze]

is there any other difference between p12s or f12s besides how f12s are better for unobstructed air?

[knotty sparrow]

P12 is pressure optimized for liquid cooling setups, F12 is airflow optimized

[pale plover]

anyone know of any decently cheap 775 cooler? looking to replace the awful gunky one thats in a current build i have with a new one

ping in response

[shrewd juniper]

What do you mean by a 775 cooler?

[leaden smelt]

LGA 775?

[topaz blaze]

how many times should i clean my case?

room isnt really that dusty

does get hot in the summer tho

[topaz blaze]

also the control box on the squas

how many fans does it support?

and can i plug the rgb wires into em?

[severe zodiac]

hey whats the best 360 mm aio

[topaz blaze]

ive heard freezer II, ek, and galahad are all pretty nice

[topaz blaze]

corsair?

nzxt?

none of those aios are from either companies

[timid carbon]

^

[gilded apex]

Does anyone knwo if the "test fans" section on the asrock mob control application automatically tunes the fans or is it just testing the fans?

[severe zodiac]

does putting new thermal paste on graphics cards do anything

[timid carbon]

Depends

[gilded apex]

your gpu should come with thermal paste, but if its old and not running as well as it should in terms of temps and clock speeds etc, it might be good to check if the paste has dried

[safe phoenix]

anybody have any 30 series cards running really hot? im new to the PC world, ive had my 3070 for about 2 weeks now and was playing R6 and my gpu started heating up to almost 70 degrees Celsius, my cpu also heated up to the same temp. first time this has happened

[magic wave]

what AIB manufacturer is it that has bad cooling?

/bad thermal pads

[safe phoenix]

the AIB is nvidia

my AIB i should say

[shrewd juniper]

Tune your fan curve

But 70 is a perfectly fine temp

Also Mija whats your case/fan setup

[safe phoenix]

70 is okay? i was just concerned because i could physically feel the warm air blowing out of it and since i was only playing R6 in comparison to playing rust and the forest for hours and didnt ever get above 50degrees

[shrewd juniper]

Run a stress test and see how hot it gets

At max

But you shouldn't worry bout temps under 90c

If you want it to run cooler, tune your fan curve in afterburner or something

[safe phoenix]

okay i will try that out. thank you guys

[severe zodiac]

so

if ur temps are lower

can you overclock more

[pale plover]

yeah

[shrewd juniper]

Kind of yes because you have more room but you should hard limit yourself to not pushing over x voltage depending on cpu

[timid carbon]

Yep

too much voltage worse for cpu than heat

[unique lily]

TwaJfk#6762 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

TwaJfk#6762 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[timid carbon]

Lmao

[rose isle]

dude doesnt give up

[fossil sparrow]

Guys I'm getting around 40c on my cpu on idle 5800x is that normal? I have a 360 aio

[fair walrus]

@knotty eagle just got my air cooler, my cpu is idling at 29C and hasnt gone past 60C while running some intense games. Thank you!!

[magic wave]

nice

[fair walrus]

Way better than the 93C i was used to getting

[topaz blaze]

sees nzxt aer + vengeance ram
sadge

[fair walrus]

Its actually a DeepCool air cooler

[topaz blaze]

not the cooler

[fair walrus]

Oh whoops

aer?

[topaz blaze]

is it not this thing?

[fair walrus]

O actually they are apeva

its whatever came with the prebuilt

[topaz blaze]

hm oki

[fair walrus]

planning on replacing them

[shrewd juniper]

Yes that's a normal idle temp, under load temps are what really matter tho

[fossil sparrow]

Maxed out at 87c

[shrewd juniper]

5800x is a toasty chip i wouldn't worry too much

[fossil sparrow]

Ok thank you

[shrewd juniper]

Np :)

[vapid blaze]

so i installed a hard-tubed line ina re-built PC i have and used corair's XL5 fluid. ran the loop for about 24 hours and this morning until now, it went from clear to a foggy white. The loop is brand new so im assuming maybe it had something to do with that. Im considering simply using distilled water for a few days and seeing how that holds up but the loop is a little more than 24 hours old. So if anyone has had some experience or suggestions other than draining and refilling the loop feel free to let me know

[twilit bane]

What's the difference between the 140mm fans here? (besides PWM)

[knotty eagle]

Rotation speed, RPM

[magic wave]

Usually when they have pwm and non pwm versions of a fan they have some slow, medium, and fast non pwm

Arctic p series non pwm, pure wings, probably some others

[magic lark]

I'm trying to mount my Arctic freezer 240 mm but the mount seems to touch the vrm with the spacers on it

[knotty eagle]

What part of the mount, the arm or the screw that goes into it?

[magic lark]

The arm

[knotty eagle]

Is it actually touching?

That's interesting

Those are caps BTW

VRM is under the heatsink, I have the same board

[azure crown]

this is a known issue with the arctic freezer mounting hardware

there are 3 revisions of the bracket lol

[knotty eagle]

I wouldn't be afraid to put a piece of paper under it and install the arm

If you can pull the paper out it's fine

[azure crown]

you have to contact them to get a new bracket

or

make it jank

[magic lark]

It's rev 4

[knotty eagle]

Can you fit a piece of paper under it?

[magic lark]

I can but it's very tight

[knotty eagle]

Not sure I'd sweat it that much. when you tighten the block down it will pull up on the arm anyway but that's my comfort level. Yours may be different.

[magic lark]

It can't be pulled up though that's why you screw it to the backplate

[knotty eagle]

It will flex up when you lock down the block. Pressure down on the cpu will pull it up a bit. If you arent comfortable with it ask arctic if they have different arms or put a piece of tape on the underside of the arm.

[magic lark]

I mean can the caps blow up from the heat of the metal lol

[knotty eagle]

No

Caps are good to 110c or 150c or something ridiculously high.

[magic lark]

Does the aio pump give power to the fans?

Cause i see no header for the fans to plug in

[knotty eagle]

Yes all one cable

[knotty eagle]

Wow, Ek finally changed their CPu waterblock. Then they went the NZXT route with a display in it. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/aio/ek-nucleus

[shrewd juniper]

It's €80 or 90 extra for a screen

[knotty eagle]

Well yeah, they went the NZXT route but it's nice to see round cpu blocks

[shrewd juniper]

Idk i kinda like the square one but I'm sure others don't

[glacial spindle]

is there a "best" coolant for custom loops?

I read where some people just dilute car radiator fluid

[knotty eagle]

Distilled water with something like EK Cryofuel

[glacial spindle]

hmm okay ya EK seems to have an amazing reputation

Is there a tradeoff with putting like strongly colored fluid & actual performance?

[knotty eagle]

Depends on the coloring you use. It can dye flexible tubing and the stuff with pearl in it can clump in waterblocks

Otherwise it just fades over time

[glacial spindle]

I see. Do you really have to flush the whole system like every 6 months?

[knotty eagle]

At least once a year is what I've understood

[glacial spindle]

I haven't figured out where I'm going to put a drain valve yet. I know the highest priority is to make sure the pump never runs dry

What do you think so far for my first attempt? Lol

I still have to pipe to & from the other 360, get a GPU block, & pump to & from the 140

pipe not pump

[shrewd juniper]

well if your loop is full the pump shouldnt have a chance to run dry...

[arctic remnant]

So the NZXT Kraken X53 240mm just went on sale for 2 days, would it be worth it to buy it now and not install it for like 3 months?

[knotty eagle]

Price?

[arctic remnant]

129

no 116

[knotty eagle]

Arctic Freezer and EK still outcool it

EK also recently redid their waterblock

[arctic remnant]

is it worth it for the display and the cooling? i was going to get the Phanteks Glaicer 1.

[knotty eagle]

X53 doesn't have a display, just the mirror pump

[arctic remnant]

oh i saw the display in a review

[knotty eagle]

That's the Z not the X

And an extra $150 for a display isn't worth it IMO

[arctic remnant]

oh...

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, $230 for the Z53 240mm

[arctic remnant]

dangit

[knotty eagle]

EK Redid their pump though, it's not square and ugly anymore.

[arctic remnant]

oooh that looks nice, whats the price?

[knotty eagle]

$125

[arctic remnant]

link?

[knotty eagle]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-nucleus-aio-cr240-lux-d-rgb

It's in pre order right now though

[arctic remnant]

hmmm

oh but sep 2021

[shrewd juniper]

oof

[knotty eagle]

OH really?

That sucks, I thought they said some were available now

Forget that then :/

[topaz blaze]

i mean you can still grab the old cooler block

not as pretty but like

yea

still good

[severe zodiac]

Help!!!1!!1! I installed an aio and now its overheating

Like it randomly went to 100 degrees

[knotty sparrow]

Check the bracket is on the CPU block correctly and that you have good, even mounting pressure. Remount it completely if needed.

[severe zodiac]

The bracket is on correctly

But its kinda crooked

[knotty sparrow]

Crooked is usually bad, means the plate probably isn't making good contact with the die

[severe zodiac]

Do i tighten the little screw

[knotty sparrow]

Intel?
I believe most coolers take the approach of screwing the bigger part to the backplate, then you set the block on and attach the hand screws.
Which one do you have exactly?

[severe zodiac]

Its am4

[knotty eagle]

yeah, you tighten that screw

[severe zodiac]

I have the h150i elite capellix

[knotty eagle]

It goes on the stock AM4 bracket

[severe zodiac]

Does the bottom go first or the top

[knotty eagle]

Doesn't really matter which goes on first as long as they're both clipped and tightened

[severe zodiac]

Do i tighten them until i cant do it anymore

[knotty eagle]

Pretty much. Snug is good

[severe zodiac]

Its not ceooket

Crooked

I hope my pc doesnt catch on fire

[knotty sparrow]

Looks like the clips go down

[knotty eagle]

Whatever fan header the pump is connected to make sure it's at 100%

[severe zodiac]

Is this good

Or should it go to the cpu header

[knotty eagle]

Ah, that's just for RPM feedback

[knotty sparrow]

AIO Pump header will be 100% by default

[knotty eagle]

Doesn't matter in this case

[knotty sparrow]

100% is good for the pump

[knotty eagle]

Well

This all connects to a Commander Core

The AIO header is just a single wire tach :/

[knotty sparrow]

Oh if it's all just a single wire connection then it should be in CPU_FAN or else bios will throw an error

[severe zodiac]

None of the radiator fans are turning on

[knotty eagle]

You have SATA power going to the Commander Core fan hub?

And the fans plugged into it?

[severe zodiac]

It probably got disconne

Let me see

Its connected

[knotty eagle]

And the 24 pin cable from the pump is connected there as well>?

[severe zodiac]

Yeah

Everything was lighting up i don’t know what happened

All i did was connect a hard drive

I restarted and nothing

[knotty eagle]

Hard drive uses the same power as the AIO

You sure it's all plugged in right?

[severe zodiac]

Yeah

From the same sata cable

[knotty eagle]

Unplug the drive then and see if it works

Since that's the only thing that changed

Or use a different SATA power cable for the Commander Pro

[severe zodiac]

Alright

I did the hard drive and nothin

Also when i started my pc my fans gotnloud and flashed read

Red

Cpu still gets hot

[knotty eagle]

Where do you have the USB cable for the Commander plugged in?

CPU is getting hot because the AIO isn't working

[severe zodiac]

I have the usb plugged in the bottom connectors

[knotty eagle]

SO you said it flashes red when you power it up?

[severe zodiac]

It used to

Now it doesnt do anything

Corsair probably just killed my pc

[knotty eagle]

Well, the red flash at startup indicates a pump failure. And if you're SURE everything is connected properly now, reading some posts from other folks, it sounds like it died and needs to be returned. :/

The pump block and fans flashing red means the pump failed

And not if it's not doing anything, I'd say contact Corsair for a replacement

[severe zodiac]

Aw crap

Dsng

Dang

This sucks

[knotty eagle]

It does suck

Could always go back through and double triple check all your connections and maybe try a different Sata power plug if you have one

[severe zodiac]

Thanks for the help anyways

[knotty eagle]

SOrry for the bad news but I'd try a different Sata power connector just to be safe and all the other connections again

[severe zodiac]

Do i contact corsair on their website

Or newegg

[knotty eagle]

how long have you had it?

Most likely Corsair

[severe zodiac]

I just got it today

[knotty eagle]

Newegg has you covered for 30 days

[severe zodiac]

Alright

[knotty eagle]

https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/how-to-return-a-newegg-item/?lang=en

You can request a replacement

[severe zodiac]

Thx

It was such a pain to do install now i have to tear it down

[knotty eagle]

I know, it does suck :/

[severe zodiac]

Time to go back to good old wraith prism

[arctic remnant]

So the phanteks P400a case on the site says that you cant fit a radiator on the top of the case, can someone else confirm or deny this?

[shrewd juniper]

Of course you can fit a radiator but it depends what size radiator you want to fit

[arctic remnant]

the glacier one 280mm

[shrewd juniper]

Don't get glacier

Get arctic instead

Cheaper and better

[arctic remnant]

with the MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI mobo?

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu?

[arctic remnant]

i7-10700k

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah that's fine but get arctic liquid ii instead it's better and cheaper

[arctic remnant]

I would like the fans to match tho...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQHZTJ

[shrewd juniper]

I mean okay if you want to spend more money on a worse cooler, btw the p400a doesn't support a radiator on top, only the front

There's not enough clearance up to for a rad

[arctic remnant]

I was asking that the whole time

[timid carbon]

4000d airflow my dude

[arctic remnant]

?

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hRxvy4 at least do this

I fixed your ram and psu

The psu you had used to be okay because it used to be 65$ it's not worth 90$ i gave you a way better one

[timid carbon]

The corsair 4000d airflow is the best case in my opinion

[shrewd juniper]

@arctic remnant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBRtfP get this

[arctic remnant]

my price is under100

[harsh hatch]

That mobo is bad

[arctic remnant]

Dont even get me started on the mobo

[shrewd juniper]

Ik but it's fine

[arctic remnant]

I want it \

and thats that

[shrewd juniper]

Just overpriced

[harsh hatch]

Bruh ok

Just buy a Z590 Elite

[shrewd juniper]

They want wifi iirc

[harsh hatch]

10x better board

Z590 Elite AX

[timid carbon]

220$ for that is sheeeeesh

[harsh hatch]

For 220 you can have true 12 phase SiC651

Which I’d take any day of the week tbh

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah it's way too expensive

[harsh hatch]

It’s like 240 wdym

[shrewd juniper]

The mobo they have

[harsh hatch]

Yeah it is

[timid carbon]

Why K skew btw

[harsh hatch]

The HDD also doesn’t make too much sense

[timid carbon]

do they plan to OC

[shrewd juniper]

I'd assume so

[harsh hatch]

If you want better fans, go HF120 from Enermax

[timid carbon]

If not b560 is a great chipset

[timid carbon]

Man wants tons of phantecs poop from what i understand

[shrewd juniper]

Idk i was just fixing the absolute worst parts of the build

[harsh hatch]

I like Phanteks but I have no brand loyalty

[arctic remnant]

Ive seen that the case is liked

[harsh hatch]

Brand loyalty is dumb

[arctic remnant]

and the fans i want to match

[shrewd juniper]

It's a decent case but no top rad support so

[harsh hatch]

Btw, if this is for gaming 10700k doesn’t make much sense

[arctic remnant]

why

[harsh hatch]

OC’d 11600K exists

And beats OC’d 10700k

[arctic remnant]

my budget is under 1500

and that pprocessor is 400

[shrewd juniper]

11600k cheaper

[harsh hatch]

No it isn’t

Lol

It’s not 400

[arctic remnant]

i dont see the 11600

[timid carbon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xps73Z

@arctic remnant

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3Dvy4

[arctic remnant]

LIKE I SAID THE CASE NEEDS TO BE UNDER 100

[shrewd juniper]

@arctic remnant j would do this

[harsh hatch]

Looks great, 2x16 would be better

[shrewd juniper]

WHY DOES IT MATTER IF THE WHOLE THING IS CHEAPPPERT

[arctic remnant]

because i have a budget

[timid carbon]

Why if the total budget is under the total limit

[arctic remnant]

and that is over

[shrewd juniper]

They already have 2x8 iirc

[harsh hatch]

Then add the same kit

Why do you have an RGB and non RGB

[shrewd juniper]

Look at my build the whole thing is 150 less than your build, fits well in your budget

[harsh hatch]

Messes up the power balance

[arctic remnant]

the GPU is $400 and adding that on is 1659

[harsh hatch]

Causes stability issues quite often to have one kit rgb one not

[arctic remnant]

once i get more money i will change the non rgb to rgb

[timid carbon]

Btw is overclocking important to you

[arctic remnant]

somewhat

[harsh hatch]

That’s dumb

Don’t do that

[arctic remnant]

why

[timid carbon]

Rather spend 10$ more right now that 100 later

Lmao

[harsh hatch]

^

[arctic remnant]

i already have the non rgb

[harsh hatch]

Then get another non RGb

Easy

[shrewd juniper]

Why not save the money and keep the 16gb you have atm then upgrade to 2x16 rgb and sell your 16gb kit

[harsh hatch]

Ghats also a good idea

Based 2x16

[timid carbon]

So its not really important

[harsh hatch]

Rev B gang

[timid carbon]

Its an added benefit but not necessary

[harsh hatch]

What is

[timid carbon]

Overclocking

[arctic remnant]

like that but more

[harsh hatch]

OC for those parts is basically necesssary to get your money’s worth

You’ll get well in excess of 20% performance from a bit of manual OC

If you don’t plan on OCing, change the parts

[timid carbon]

The b560 chipset is a great middle ground

[arctic remnant]

yeah I assumed that

[timid carbon]

Cheaper as well

[harsh hatch]

Let’s you OC ram yay

[timid carbon]

Pay less for parts and still get great perf

[arctic remnant]

What I want in my PC build
-Black w/RGB
-Under $1500
-Everything matches
-MOBO w/Int wifi

[timid carbon]

As an added benefit you cant break parts because somehow you managed to break em because you dont know how to OC and loaded too mych voltage to try to get a stable profile

[timid carbon]

This would’ve helped more than anything else you have said in the past hour

[arctic remnant]

probbably yes

[timid carbon]

@shrewd juniper you got dis I need to sleep

[timid carbon]

100% probablity

Anyway gn bye

[harsh hatch]

Kinda dumb requirements but OK

You do you

[timid carbon]

Dont go down that road mate

It leads nowhere

[harsh hatch]

It’s true though so idrc

[timid carbon]

Just help em if you can with what they want and let them do them

[harsh hatch]

I’ll speak my mind.

But as I said, up to them

[timid carbon]

Most people dont listen to reason

[shrewd juniper]

@arctic remnant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDgfz7

[shrewd juniper]

Was already on it lol

Zoooom

[timid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-creepy-cat-cat-zoom-kitty-gif-12199043

[shrewd juniper]

With this build just buy the new ram later when you have the money @arctic remnant

[timid carbon]

Why does that look like your 1000$ build list with like 3 changes

Pato sus

Im voting

[shrewd juniper]

Shhh

Because ehhh if they not gonna oc

No need for 11600k

Or z590

[harsh hatch]

Or Ballistix

Though that’s still worth it

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

Well they already have that kit

So

It's free basically

[harsh hatch]

But ram needs RGB Cuz

[timid carbon]

Thats the best price to perf point

[shrewd juniper]

Indeed infinite price/performance

[harsh hatch]

LF2 240 isn’t exactly great

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-gif-15352573

[harsh hatch]

No 240mm AIO is great for that matter

But I mean, it works. I’d have got Liqmax III

[timid carbon]

Not like an 11400 gonna run that hot

[shrewd juniper]

Well there's no 280mm arctic and they asked for everything to match so

[timid carbon]

That a 280 or 360 is necessary

[harsh hatch]

There is a 280mm Arctic wdym

[shrewd juniper]

What's this for

[harsh hatch]

Heat soak

[shrewd juniper]

Not rgb

[harsh hatch]

Then don’t get Arctic

Get a Liqmax

[arctic remnant]

to show that the i7 seems better higher turbo and .1 less operation freq

[shrewd juniper]

They wanted matching lol

And the ek 360 was stoopid price atm

[harsh hatch]

Yeah...and they wanted RGb

[shrewd juniper]

That means nothing

[harsh hatch]

So you go Hf120s + Liqmax IiI

[timid carbon]

Oh my god

Please tell me ur joking

[harsh hatch]

All matching fans, better all round, same price, maybe cheaper

[shrewd juniper]

11th gen has better ipc @arctic remnant

You haven't been able to shop by ghz since like 10 years ago

[arctic remnant]

whats IPC?

[harsh hatch]

You couldn’t 10 years ago either

[shrewd juniper]

Instructions per clock

[timid carbon]

Google is a friend

Use it

[shrewd juniper]

Well i can't remember when it was Viable

[harsh hatch]

It’s been about since the 8080 came out that it’s made no sense

😂

1974

[shrewd juniper]

[harsh hatch]

Last time all the CPUs were designed the same more or less

[timid carbon]

I still have my 800mhz behemoth of a cpu back when it was introduced

[shrewd juniper]

1974, 10 years ago potato pot a toe

[timid carbon]

Arshia remember when gpus used to be a part of the motherboard because no igpus

[harsh hatch]

Ughh
@idle tiger do you have any chiller Reccs? I bought a HC-500A and it’s nice but I want a new one

Cascade

Don’t know whether to get the same or buy smth new

[timid carbon]

Use the brycegames method

[shrewd juniper]

Oldest cpu i have is fx 6300.... Or my old ass laptop that my bro still used until his 11400 build, with like an 8 year old i3

[harsh hatch]

Who is that

[timid carbon]

Absolute madlad

[harsh hatch]

What did they do?

[timid carbon]

Lemme send you his cooling system

[magic wave]

my brother's old pc, my grandma's old pc, both have that lol

[harsh hatch]

Most were glorified Int16 and FP16 machines

Incapable of anything other than like a few instructions

[timid carbon]

Thats what bryce uses

[harsh hatch]

Yeah Jay just looks like an Airplez

Or a few different rands

A push pull mora config with a good pump could beat that probably

[shrewd juniper]

That the rtx 5090 on the window?

XD

[harsh hatch]

It’s either a mora, airplez, or a few rads running together

Lemme zoom in

[harsh hatch]

Oh ok

It’s just 4 different rads

[shrewd juniper]

Wack

[harsh hatch]

I’d love to know what their flow rate is, probably in the 2L/min range

[shrewd juniper]

That a pci card?

[timid carbon]

Man uses a whole other psu only for those fans lol

There was a time that he forgot to turn that psu on

[harsh hatch]

hehe

[shrewd juniper]

That seems like a waste lol

[harsh hatch]

ok time to flex.

[timid carbon]

Thats an old cpu

Pentium III

[harsh hatch]

since you seemed impressed by that @timid carbon

I present

Moras

[idle tiger]

Ask mythical. Honestly window ac with the evap in a diy res of ethylene glycol isn't a bad start

[shrewd juniper]

Holy

[timid carbon]

Everyone knows grills reduce airflow smh

[idle tiger]

Idk what cert you need up there to diy build phase but it's the EPA 608 in the us

[timid carbon]

/s

[harsh hatch]

ik, just dont have access to a shop rn to do much handy work

so DIY will be a tad hard

[shrewd juniper]

Needs more fans @harsh hatch

[timid carbon]

Yeah wheres the pull fans at

[harsh hatch]

ethylene glycol tastes sweet if you drink it

try it out, reccomended

/s

[shrewd juniper]

Ln2 is very tasty too XD

[harsh hatch]

I usually use all the Extra Ln2 I have after pours to make sorbet

it works quite well

[shrewd juniper]

I love sorbet

Underrated

[harsh hatch]

Ln2 sorbet is great 🙂

[shrewd juniper]

I'd say so

[idle tiger]

Depends what your dewar was used for before you got it...

[harsh hatch]

lol dw I had a good one

got lucky af

[idle tiger]

Mythical built everything out of his apartment

I'm sure you can too if you have the will

[harsh hatch]

it was basically new, was used by a shop to store just some Ln2 for some wierd joint work

didnt dig too deep into it, not a metalsmith

what I am is a ram genie who wants smth pinned 😳

cough cough mr mod.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f-kSVc2VDhQHflYlUY0tDqrgDlzMhIecEX5tTHgnR6k/edit#gid=362490079
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cCaLlCPBxvSx7iD8CkySE2XPE33nzLJTU-ndGgrdFFA/edit

these 2 small projects I'm working on

😳

in mem channel that is obv

[shrewd juniper]

Where do you even get ln2 btw

[harsh hatch]

local shop named praxair

they extract from air

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh fair

[harsh hatch]

I have friends who work at labs or universities with their own air extractors

takes nitrogen from air, condenses and runs through peltier or an ice bath. pretty cool process

[timid carbon]

I should really get some sleep

Good night guys

[harsh hatch]

want to make my own DIY LN2 maker but its annoying and I dont have access to shop tools rn

[shrewd juniper]

Expensive tools probs

[harsh hatch]

it can be done with about 400$ if you have the tools and already have a dewar

materials arent expensive

but yeah, making it all is annoying

you need to make or buy a condenser coil

[idle tiger]

It's not cost effective to make your own

Would need thousands is parts and nearly free electricity

For just 10L a day

Which is a lot I guess

[harsh hatch]

I have free elec

[shrewd juniper]

Still thousands in parts

[idle tiger]

Why no asic farm then

[harsh hatch]

not really the design I saw

[harsh hatch]

cba rn, I had a few asics running a while back

but not anymore, too focused on other stuff

also power outages been getting common latelty and I dont want a big UPS

damn weather, wind the other day literally toppled a tree of a meter diameter

[languid gale]

Would it make sense to have a GPU only custom loop?

I have an AIO I’m really fond of that I just bought last month

[harsh hatch]

depends on the existing cooler on the card and the card itself

and your case for that matter

[silk grove]

i have a question

[languid gale]

The case is a Lancool II mesh, I’m asking because I’m debating going into the queue for an EVGA 3070ti with a water block pre installed

The radiator would have to be 240mm

[wraith rose]

Radiator doesn't have to be 240mm, the front of the Lancool II mesh can do a 360mm rad if I remember correctly

[languid gale]

Has to be because the AIO is taking up the front

[wraith rose]

Ah, I see

[languid gale]

So would it make sense to do a GPU only loop?

Or should I just try to get an air cooled GPU for the build

[next roost]

Sorry if this isn't the proper channel to ask this but is there someone I could DM about pc modding because I had a question regarding fan modding. Posted in the build channel too but this one is about cooling so maybe someone here might know.

[bleak edge]

If I have three rgb fan with 3 pins, there is some way to connect the rgb to the motherboard if them don´t have an extra cable for it?

[vivid citrus]

@bleak edge if it is only 3 pins realistically its probably not high tech enough to have a-rgb (addressable RGB)

And if there is no extra cables thats a dead giveaway

Used to work with good old molex RGB

[shrewd juniper]

Imo no

[knotty sparrow]

Coughs in GPU with an AIO attached

[shrewd juniper]

But that's different lol

They already have aio that they just bought

So it would be custom loop to just gpu

[rose isle]

Your case would allow you to mount the GPU radiator on the floor or the ceiling of the case

[knotty sparrow]

You have to be careful with a bottom mount rad. You usually want a rad with the pump built in if it's bottom mounted, so air doesn't damage the motor.

[rose isle]

oh yeah. good point

[knotty sparrow]

It could technically work if you have a reservoir/pump combo too if you position things right

[languid gale]

Would I be able to add on a CPU fairly easily down the line if I start off with just cooling the GPU?

[rose isle]

I would imagine if you started with a strong enough pump and large enough reservoir, the only thing you would need to add would be a radiator and cpu block and extra pipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRFuGYDOnHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKGV7B5lVhs

some inspiration

[languid gale]

Lmfao setting up this loop is more maintenance than taking care of my pool

[knotty sparrow]

And almost as much additives

[silk grove]

guys

i wanted peoples opinion on changing my fan layout in my lian li o11

[shrewd juniper]

What do you have atm

Also o11 is a mess for air

[silk grove]

It doesn’t let me send pic :((

[stone jackal]

Best config is usually bottom intake, side intake, top AIO exhaust

Assuming you have 9 fans and an AIO lol

[silk grove]

360mm rad on top- exhaust, bottom- intake, side- exhaust

im thinking of changing the side to intake but idk

[stone jackal]

Make the side intake and ur good iirc

I don’t think it matters all too much

[shrewd juniper]

Change side to intake

[stone jackal]

But if I remember right side intake is the way to go

[silk grove]

ur right tho, it is a mess for airflow but it just is too good looking

[knotty eagle]

Set your side fans to intake, in this pic you posted, they're all exhaust.

[stone jackal]

I’m not too knowledgeable with the O11, only used it once

[silk grove]

old pic

i added 2 mor efans to the bottom

more*

as intake

[stone jackal]

Side intake

[silk grove]

other than that its good

[stone jackal]

Yes

[silk grove]

rate the build 1/10

[shrewd juniper]

Yeye youre right yams and positive pressure is good because then less dust

[silk grove]

i give it a 7/10

the gpu isnt that good looking but its a beast and i only have 2 sticks of ram rip

[stone jackal]

Looks messy to me, not sure why

[silk grove]

i have so many cables

[shrewd juniper]

The cable management is meh

[silk grove]

idk whats wrong with the gpu cables

[stone jackal]

Yeah when I did my O11 build with the AIO and 9 fans eek

[silk grove]

its like looped it comes like that

[stone jackal]

I also think the picture quality itself isn’t doing ur build justice

[silk grove]

u guys got any opinions on the top 2 cables

[shrewd juniper]

It's fine the slack just doesn't look the best

[stone jackal]

A better pic would make it look better I think

[silk grove]

^

but still, my build needs fixing lol

idk why i crash everytime i play cod

[stone jackal]

Is it a 5700 XT

[silk grove]

corrupted files or smth

[shrewd juniper]

The one crossing the vrms could be done from a different hole so it doesn't go right across but

[silk grove]

yea

[stone jackal]

Sometimes cod is just bad

Lol

[silk grove]

^

for reak

real

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah try repair the game files

[silk grove]

its kinda weird idk

ive tried to uninstall and repair the game sm times

i9 10850k (intel guy lol), 5700xt, 850w, 32gb 3200mhz tforce, msi 360mm aio

[stone jackal]

Which 850w

[silk grove]

gigabyte 850w

ill send exact one hold up

[stone jackal]

OH NO

[shrewd juniper]

Don't say pgm

[stone jackal]

OH NO OH NO

[knotty eagle]

It's a 5700XT, dollars to donuts it's a driver issue

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/saussiçon-explode-boom-gif-16089684

[knotty eagle]

and PGM's only blow up if you way over draw from them

IF they work at all XD

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but that shouldn't be an option

[stone jackal]

They blow up if you barely overdraw, iirc

It’s like, they’re good 550w units or something

[silk grove]

gigabyte p850gm..

oh god

whats so bad abt it

[stone jackal]

It blows up

[silk grove]

for real?

[shrewd juniper]

Under full load it can yeah

Well over full

[silk grove]

i rarely full load it

im rarely even close

[shrewd juniper]

Not the gpu and cpu

You will be fine

[silk grove]

i like to run low graphics on every game anyways

[shrewd juniper]

Cuz it's 850w and you only have 5700xt

[silk grove]

its upgrade prrof

proof

[stone jackal]

Not really

[knotty eagle]

I wouldn't trust that 850W to power anything

[stone jackal]

I wouldn’t put anything that needs 850w on it

Yeah exactly lol

[silk grove]

cause i was expecting a 3080 but i was wrong lol

dam

[shrewd juniper]

No definitely not, get an enermax revolution df instead

[silk grove]

so u think if i upgrade any of my parts i should get a new psu?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

[stone jackal]

I think you should get rid of it anyways

[shrewd juniper]

You should if you don't anyway

[stone jackal]

But

[silk grove]

should i fill the ram slots

i have enough to buy a new psu and the same ram sticks

[shrewd juniper]

Nah 32gb plenty

[silk grove]

i know it is, but for the aesthetics

[shrewd juniper]

No

[silk grove]

id rather get a working stick than a dead stick

tbh

[shrewd juniper]

Just leave empty tbh

[stone jackal]

No

[shrewd juniper]

Also team force ram is meh, i wouldn't give them anymore or your money

[stone jackal]

Leave empty

Filling ram slots is the biggest waste of money imo

[shrewd juniper]

You'd want to buy a whole new kit if you wanted 64gb

[silk grove]

dam

my build sucks lol

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah usually more expensive than 2x16gb

[shrewd juniper]

It doesn't lol

[stone jackal]

It really doesn’t tho

You have great specs

[silk grove]

for now im staying w the psu

i have a good pc its just got its flaws

[knotty eagle]

Even if it might be causing some of the crashing?

Because it can't supply enough power?

is it a Blue Screen or just Game crash?

[silk grove]

entire computer crashes, i have to turn it off and turn it back on

[stone jackal]

No, vintage, psu isn’t the issue

Cod and 5700 XT have never worked well together

[silk grove]

everything freezes then audio starts stuttering

[stone jackal]

Oh well

Actually

That doesn’t sound like GPU alone could do that

[knotty eagle]

Still could be a GPU crash

A really hard one

[silk grove]

me and my dad thought it was cooling

[shrewd juniper]

Nah

[silk grove]

like the gpu wasnt getting enough

[stone jackal]

Bruh

[silk grove]

im pretty dang sure its the gpu tbh

[stone jackal]

You could have just

Monitored temps

[knotty eagle]

Grab GPU-Z and see what the GPU voltages are under load

and temps as well

[silk grove]

im too lazy to constantly monitor temps

[shrewd juniper]

Gpu is fine, would be 80c absolute max with a terrible fan curve and that's not throttling yet

[shrewd juniper]

You just gotta do for a test and look at the peek voltage

[silk grove]

what software

maybe i could use the radeon software but i doubt it

[shrewd juniper]

This

[knotty eagle]

GPU-Z

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

[silk grove]

oh ive seen this before

isnt there a cpuz

[stone jackal]

Yes there is

[silk grove]

thats what ive heard of

[stone jackal]

If you wanna monitor temps conveniently you can always use MSI afterburner to have an in-game-overlay

[silk grove]

so what do i look for

in gpuz

[stone jackal]

Temperature

[silk grove]

thats it?

[knotty eagle]

Open it

Voltages as well

Open GPU-Z

Go to Sensors

Look at Temp and Hot SPot

And then the 8 pin/6 pin voltages

[silk grove]

wheres the voltages for the pins

and also if i see its the temperature thats causing it to crash, do i go ahead and move the fans to intake

or do i just move the fans to intake nonetheless

[stone jackal]

Would be nice to move the side fans to intake nonetheless

[silk grove]

ok

[stone jackal]

Should help with temps either way

[silk grove]

i can do that tonight haha

while im doing that im gonna really try and fix up the cables

[gentle snow]

Best white rgb fans? Low budget

I live in the Netherlands

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12 rgb

It's a black exterior but it's rgb so

[gentle snow]

It’s for the 4000d

So idk if it will look good

[shrewd juniper]

Then get arctic p12 white, i don't think it's rgb but it's good enough

[gentle snow]

That’s the thing, I am asking for white rgb fans :/ 😂

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah and rgb doesn't do budget

P12 are the only good budget rgb fans

The rest are like 100€ for 3 fans

[gentle snow]

Idk where you live but only cordair ll120 are that pricey

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah good rgb fans are that price, bar the arctic p12s

I live in eu

[shrewd juniper]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/gtkgXL/cooler-master-masterfan-mf120-halo-472-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-mfl-b2dn-183pa-r1 these are kinda cheap i suppose

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/fnpzK8/lian-li-st120-6917-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-st120-3w @gentle snow these look okay

Not exactly cheap but they the cheapest, you gotta pay the white tax and the rgb tax

[ivory sluice]

whats RGB fans do you recommend

i dont wanna spend more than 40

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12 rgb

[sacred wren]

whats the best cpu cooler for ~35-40$

[timid carbon]

Vetroo V5 or gammax 400v2

[sacred wren]

ty

[low pumice]

Se-224-xt too

[solar moat]

Best performing, or do aesthetics matter?

[shrewd juniper]

Literally the 3 above are the best performing for that price

[solar moat]

Wrong.

There’s better coolers, just look ugly AF

Like the geild phantom

I think that’s what it’s called ^

[shrewd juniper]

Se 224xt and vetroo v5 aren't ugly

[timid carbon]

how does that look ugly lol

[solar moat]

I never said that

[shrewd juniper]

None of them do, i can see how people don't like the look of gammaxx but the rest look nice

[shrewd juniper]

That's the way it came off

[solar moat]

They said best cooler, but didn’t specify if aesthetics matter. If they don’t, there’s better coolers that look ugly af

The coolers mentioned don’t perform as well, but look a lot better

[shrewd juniper]

They also a good bit cheaper than that

[timid carbon]

exactly

[shrewd juniper]

Looks fine, think it's possibly rgb

[timid carbon]

that looks sick

[solar moat]

It’s not O.o

[shrewd juniper]

Looked like an rgb fan, it looks fine yeah

Not the best but fine

[solar moat]

Then that’d be better lol

And in their budget ^

[solar moat]

Hence why I said this

[sacred wren]

Aesthetics don't matter, it's a closed case without a glass panel

[solar moat]

Also these aren’t great recommendations - should ask “for what cpu” before recommending things lol. If they got 35-40 to spend, v5 isn’t worth it , with its meh fan

[solar moat]

What cpu?

[sacred wren]

3600 but looking for something that can cool a 5800x if I end up upgrading to it

[timid carbon]

so whats a good 35-40$ cpu for an i9 then

[solar moat]

Which i9?

[timid carbon]

CPU doenst change what the best cooler for that price is

[solar moat]

Really, nothing.

[timid carbon]

see

goes nowhere

[solar moat]

If you’re buying a top of the line cpu, why would you spend just 40 bucks rofl

[timid carbon]

asked for a good cooler for that price

I suggested

[solar moat]

Those are good coolers at that price, but if they’re using like a 5800x then you’re screwing em over lol

[solar moat]

If you can get 10 bucks more, scythe’s fuma 2 is a nice cooler - idk if it can handle a 5800x however

[sacred wren]

If there's nothing for that ima just wait till mining gives me more

[timid carbon]

no sir their budget allocation is screwing them over

[solar moat]

Well it’ll handle it, but not ideal

[sacred wren]

I dont really need the cooler yet, so I'll wait. Spending my mining profits on it and paypal gave me 15$ on newegg so

[solar moat]

Then maybe you should ask, since you’re offering advice

[timid carbon]

What was the question they asked?

whats a good cooler for 35-40$ yes?

[solar moat]

They asked what’s a good cooler between 35-40, you should ask “for what cpu”

[timid carbon]

did they ask me what cooler they should get for a specific chip?

nope

[solar moat]

Because the best cooler at that price point depends on what cpu 🤨

[timid carbon]

just because they have a specific cpu, the fact that I suggested the best cooler at that price point doesnt change

[solar moat]

If it’s a 10400f, you’d want to focus on aesthetics rather than best performance but for something higher end, like let’s just say a 10700k then you’d want to focus more on performance.

[timid carbon]

Answer me this.

[sacred wren]

Yall it's fine dw about it

[heady gust]

What would be an ideal fan setup for the Lancool II mesh rgb? I also have 5 spare rgb fans to add in

[solar moat]

I understand that you suggested good coolers, which is great, but i don’t think you realize that the best cooler at 40 bucks varies for different use cases

[timid carbon]

whether you have an r9 5950X or a r3 3300, does the list of the best 35-40$ coolers change?

lmao

[heady gust]

also using a v5 for cooling

[solar moat]

For a 3600, the se-224xt, v5 etc. are all fine coolers. You’d prob want upgrade the cooler if you end up tossing in a 5800x.

[timid carbon]

also see how I suggested 2 to give em choice

lmao

[solar moat]

2 nearly identical coolers

Your advice is fine, all I’m tryna say is you could ask because if they were getting something high end then they’d want to look at best performance + allocating more money towards a cooler

[timid carbon]

again did they ask for a build list or for a good cooler between 35-40$

[solar moat]

They asked for advice on which cooler to get...

[timid carbon]

does the list of best coolers between 35-40$ change as per cpu

[solar moat]

If you can’t ask one extra question to ensure they get the best price - performance cooler why are you even offering advice?

[timid carbon]

lol

[solar moat]

Yes, yes it does. Lol

Read what I said, “do aesthetics matter”

[timid carbon]

budget was 35-40$

[solar moat]

If aesthetics don’t matter, then there’s better performing coolers for the same price, lol.

[timid carbon]

I told em 2 of the best

[knotty eagle]

Why we arguing

[solar moat]

Misunderstanding / Misinterpretation

[timid carbon]

IDK man came at me saying im screwing em over by recommending what they asked for tbh

[solar moat]

@timid carbon thinks only the question asked should be answered, whereas I believe answering a more specific question is necessary when offering advice.

We didn’t know what cpu they were going to be cooling, so offering the best cooler without clarification, is assuming that they aren’t using something high end

The coolers between 0-40 bucks vary a lot

[knotty eagle]

So advise what you think they should get

because now it's a mess of arguing and they still don't have an answer

[solar moat]

Something like a 10100f doesn’t need more than a stock cooler, but something like a 10700k might need a little more for something like a fuma 2 / ninja 5

[solar moat]

.

[solar moat]

Which is why clarification is necessary for accurate advice

[knotty eagle]

SO leave it at that

And quit arguing

[solar moat]

ok

[knotty eagle]

If you haven't noticed, OP hasn't posted in a while. Y'all arguing and they left.

[solar moat]

i wasn’t trying to stir up drama, was tryna correct inaccurate advice

sorry ig :P

^ I’ll try to avoid correcting people when advice is already given then

[knotty eagle]

It's not that you corrected someone, it's how you did it. Literally ran the OP out of the convo.

DM's exist also 😉 So the OP doesn't run away next time lol

[shrewd juniper]

Doesn't matter all 3 i9s are hot af lol

[timid carbon]

Yep sorry bout that

[knotty eagle]

My point is, don't focus on being right more than being helpful.

[shrewd juniper]

Also v5 is 30$

[knotty eagle]

Please and thanks

[timid carbon]

shoulda left it at my 1st comment

[solar moat]

Isn’t it 25, low price of 23 O.o

22 ^

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh i can't remember though was 30$

Makes v5 pretty good deal then nice

[knotty eagle]

Is it back on sale again?

[shrewd juniper]

Must be lol

[solar moat]

No it’s not been on sale for a week or so now

[knotty eagle]

Im' showing $30 on Amazon and Wegg

[shrewd juniper]

That's gammaxx 400 price nice

[knotty eagle]

Where's it $23?

[solar moat]

Oh really? That’s weird.

[knotty eagle]

Yeah

[solar moat]

It has been 23

[knotty eagle]

It was for a while yeah

Not on sale anymore that I can find

[solar moat]

Aresgame River 5 also seems nice on paper

But they’ve lied in the past ^

[shrewd juniper]

I don't trust aresgame as a company tbh

[solar moat]

Yeah but the price 🤷

[knotty eagle]

I wouldn't trust anything from Aresgame, they buy good reviews with free mousepads and other things

[solar moat]

It’s 20 bucks and ARGB

[knotty eagle]

Seems like a Vetroo clone

[solar moat]

Yep, PSUs are a big no

[timid carbon]

aresgame psus

[solar moat]

AGV

[timid carbon]

gigabyte psus that i may or may not use

[shrewd juniper]

At least gigabyte don't buy reviews lol

[timid carbon]

uhhhhh

sure they dont

look at reviews for b700h

[shrewd juniper]

Reviews seem mixed but it's discontinued for a while by looks of things

[timid carbon]

I bought one late last year

[shrewd juniper]

Nvm then lol

[timid carbon]

the only regret I have when it comes to parts in my pc

is that psu

[shrewd juniper]

Not the Corsair ram xd?

[timid carbon]

i dont have that

I have ripjaws V

sn550

[shrewd juniper]

I just assumed you did cuz c die lol

[timid carbon]

410r cooler which is the best that fits in my case non aio

X570 aorus elite wifi

3600X

4 barracuda hdds

2 new, 2 salvage

[stone jackal]

Gelid phantom

[shrewd juniper]

4 hdds holy 💩

[timid carbon]

I have 3 more external lol

Also some MF prismatic fans

and a carbide spec 1 case

[timid carbon]

Ahhh I see

[solar moat]

@sacred wren check this out
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08S77DVDS

[sacred wren]

yeah i saw that the other day

it might be too big for my case though judging by the picture

[solar moat]

Yeah its a beefy cooler lol

[sacred wren]

well more so where things are inside my case

[ivory sluice]

Are these good

[knotty eagle]

yes

[magic lark]

it says 3 pin doh so be prepared

[shrewd juniper]

3 pin rgb not fan speed so its fine

[ivory sluice]

What

It looks to be rgb

I don't k own if I want rvb can't decide looks cool but annoying to deal with and more expensive

[marsh badge]

You can always turn the lights off

And yeah, those fans are cheap without rgb

[trail bone]

Anyone use the noctua NF-F12 3000 fans? If so they any good?

[knotty sparrow]

Chances are if it has Noctua in the name it's good
And yes the NF-F12 are good

They can be a bit loud at full speed but you'll never need them to be full speed

[magic wave]

well

boot up makes fans go full speed

[knotty sparrow]

If you're me your computers all have 99% uptime

[idle tiger]

Good, yes, good performance/price - meh

a12x25's are some of the best in the industry, most other noctua fan offerings ride on their brand name

[trail bone]

They cost more lol

[shrewd juniper]

Then get some arctic p12s

[rose isle]

there are thermaltake knockoffs that perform the same for less

https://www.thermaltake.com/toughfan-12-high-static-pressure-fan-single-pack.html

[shrewd juniper]

But thermal take just copied arctic

[rose isle]

yeah, but same perfomance for less price.

sorry, they copied noctua

[shrewd juniper]

Also arctic bae so

[shrewd juniper]

Whatever arctic bae and a 5 pack is like 40$ so

[magic wave]

The engine 27 in the product pics

[rose isle]

No rgb? bah, can that even cool anything without the proper lighting support? doubt

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/arctic-p12-pwm-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-acfan00232a

[rose isle]

🤣 youre such a frekin legend

[shrewd juniper]

:)

[magic lark]

would you replace the stock fans the arctic freezer 2 to noctuas? also would you change the 120mms fans on the lian li lancool 2 mesh case

[marsh badge]

The fans on the freezer are already good

On that case too, but if you want more silence then I suppose slapping some Arctic P12s shouldn't hurt

[shrewd juniper]

No, no way especially if they weren't a12x25s, the only noctua fan that competes with the arctic p12

The 2nd part is preference but i wouldn't bother

[low pumice]

Ehm, no?

And also, pressure focused fans to be different from just jack of all trades fans

For radiator fan, something like nf-p12 would probably do better

But it's not like Arctic p12 just stomps every Noctua fan that's not a12x25 always

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh i see yeah

Aren't the p12s on the liquid pressure optimised pretty well tho?

[low pumice]

Arctic p12, yea, they're designed for good pressure

[subtle gyro]

Does anyone know which air cooler I should choose for an i7-10700k? I will probably be overclocking and I'd rather not hide the rgb on my ram behind the fan.

[timid carbon]

I would go with a lian li galahad or a arctic freezer II or an ek aio for that

280mm

or up