unreal engine, cinema 4d, zbrush, etc, really likes 32+gb of ram
#old-cooling
storm heron
storm heron
did one stick fail or what
weary slate
Yea for work use 32+ makes sense makes less sense for gaming
storm heron
Yea for work use 32+ makes sense makes less sense for gaming
im thinking about this kit
shrewd juniper
Well yes but i meant 3600cl19 lol at 4400cl19 is acceptable
knotty sparrow
did one stick fail or what
Patriot doesn't like ryzen
shrewd juniper
im thinking about this kit
What kit
knotty sparrow
Wouldn't run full speed
weary slate
did one stick fail or what
nope neither stick will hit 3600mh unless its at cl22. Patriot says Ryzen struggles with 3600mhz on 16gb+ dimms but no other brand has that issue
weary slate
Patriot doesn't like ryzen
pretty much
shrewd juniper
Yikes
shrewd juniper
pretty much
Even tho it had Ryzen certified :/
weary slate
and they literally market them as "amd compatible"
shrewd juniper
Yeah i just think it's pretty ironic
knotty eagle
I'm running Intel ram with my AMD lol
weary slate
That's all marketing
for sure but I'll still try to leverage it to argue its false marketing and see if I can get money back or something as unlikely as it is
shrewd juniper
Cl18 bleh
storm heron
k thats dope
great price
ty for that
ive never bought crucial. have always gone with gskill
weary slate
crucial is solid
knotty sparrow
Gskill is good for compatibility
weary slate
Gskill is good for compatibility
that's fair granted crucial does have their whole ballistix lineup in the qvl for a lot of boards
knotty sparrow
Yeah crucial stepped up their game, almost as much compatibility as gskill now on newer kits
storm heron
appreciate that link and your experience. ill check out the qvl and all. i have a 3700x and a 3600x and have been looking for ram upgrade
weary slate
Yeah crucial stepped up their game, almost as much compatibility as gskill now o...
Yea and they're really competitive price wise since they make their own ic's
weary slate
appreciate that link and your experience. ill check out the qvl and all. i have ...
what mobo?
storm heron
x570 strix e gaming
and
STRIX B450-F GAMING II
swapping things around so the x570 gets the 3700x and the B450 gets the 3600x
storm heron
i already own both
shrewd juniper
Ohh
storm heron
❤️
weary slate
was going to look at the qvl for you but Asus sticks them in pdf's and its a pain lol, msi has a nice little search thing with sorting
storm heron
was going to look at the qvl for you but Asus sticks them in pdf's and its a pai...
ty! yeah ill double check both boards. i have a feeling its a solid purchase though
autumn iris
how can i tell if i can fit a radiator in my case with my motherboard? i realized that it looks really close inside my case
weary slate
how can i tell if i can fit a radiator in my case with my motherboard? i realize...
what case and rad?
weary slate
It's the ram that will get ya
ram loves to be difficult with coolers lol
autumn iris
and im unsure on the rad atm
knotty eagle
Indeed
autumn iris
gungnir 110M
autumn iris
alright that was what i was thinking but wasnt sure
weary slate
yea that looks like it should be fine looking at the case
autumn iris
alright thanks
I'll check RAM distance too then since mine arent low profile
at least atm
distance from RAM to top is 50mm so I'll be fine with dimensions
knotty sparrow
My RAM is literally touching the fan on my AIO. I had to partially unscrew it to get it to fit, it's less than half a mm to tall lol.
weary slate
My RAM is literally touching the fan on my AIO. I had to partially unscrew it to...
Flashbacks to filing 0.07mm off every side of a steel vesa bracket
autumn iris
lol
knotty sparrow
I probably could cut the corner that's interfering 
weary slate
Build quality is great until you're hand filing steel. Thanks monoprice
autumn iris
also one thing that surprised me when i changed PC cases is i really didnt expect to have a noticeable difference in cooling lmao
had an Antec DF500 before
weary slate
solid glass front panels look pretty but really destroy your cooling lol
autumn iris
yeah i noticed lmao
weary slate
that said or you could just have a super old garbage thermaltake case with drive cages up the entire height and a super thick foam mesh covering the very small amount of intake on the front lol. not that I had that🙃
autumn iris
lol oof
weary slate
That whole pc was a dumpster fire tbh
new pc is a crazy upgrade, when from an i5-4690k, a gtx 650, 24gb of mix and matched ddr3 ram, a 500w thermaltake psu with no 80+ rating, and a really bad thermaltake case to a 5600x, 3070, 32gb of ram, actually good psu and a decent coolermaster case
autumn iris
nice
my uncle made a deal with me where if i get a 3.0 GPA i can get a i9-9900k so i dont need to change my motherboard which is why im looking at AIOs lmao
weary slate
arctic liquid freezer, ek aio, and lian li gallahad are the go to recommendations
autumn iris
yeah i was looking at the arctic liquid freezer
im at a 2.82 with 2 grades i need to get up one with pending grades the other i got some missing stuff but also i still got finals which should boost my grade a lot as well
weary slate
That's fair best of luck to you.
autumn iris
thanks!
sacred wren
is there a way to turn up the rpm of stock fans?
knotty sparrow
The ones that plug into the motherboard or molex? Motherboard ones are easy, just adjust in bios. Molex are locked at 100%.
twin urchin
looks ok from the phgotos
autumn iris
Is the liquid freezer II compatible with LGA 1151?
knotty eagle
Yes
autumn iris
Alright cool thanks
Going to be my first time messing with liquid cooling whenever I get it lmao
Glad it’s going to be an AIO not custom
shrewd sparrow
Ok can someone help me
I have the ek aio 360 drgb
I need help with here the connectors go
From the water block and all that
autumn iris
For the connector that’s not RGB look for pins saying pump (something)
shrewd sparrow
Wdym
I have these two headers
So can u help me where they go
@autumn iris
autumn iris
Top connector is the RGB one the other 2 would probably be for fans and the pump
autumn iris
I am confused now too I’ve never done an AIO lol
shrewd sparrow
Oh ok
autumn iris
I thought it was just 2 connectors
shrewd sparrow
Yah there are
autumn iris
Oh
shrewd sparrow
Don’t look at the last pic
The first one has 2 headers
One 3 pin
And the like that
But idk what’s the 4 pin
autumn iris
Oh then bottom one is the pump then the top one is RGB
autumn iris
Yeah that’d be it and do you mean splitter?
autumn iris
Huh
shrewd sparrow
And o have a 4 pin fan header from the fan
autumn iris
Yeah those would be to connect to the fans but I don’t see a fan connector
autumn iris
Weird
autumn iris
I think they are probably supposed to be like that
shrewd sparrow
But my fans have a 4 pin
And 2 have a 3 and 1 has 4 from the splitter
What’s cpu opt
autumn iris
I think probably someone else is going to have to help with that because I had to use one of those for my fans but I didn’t pay attention to the pins
twin urchin
the 4-pin plus 2x3-pin is so the MB only gets one RPM or PWM signal or something
completely normal
shrewd sparrow
@twin urchin wait so can I plug in my 4 pin fan header ito the 3 pin splitter
knotty sparrow
CPU opt means CPU optional and is used for the AIO pump
It varies by model, some use this for the pump yeah but others tie it to the CPU_FAN speed (in case you don't have a splitter for an AIO) which is suboptimal for a pump.
autumn iris
Alright
mental cypress
So I'm really new to the whole upgrading my PC thing but, I wanted to install an AIO since the air cooler on my CPU rn isn't very good. I was wondering if somebody could help me out with all of that since I don't know much.
knotty sparrow
Check these models out:
Ek-aio, lian li galahad, arctic freezer ii
240mm is usually plenty unless you're doing extreme overclocking
mental cypress
Thanks I'll check that out
I'm gonna try to do some research tonight since I want to get more into building PC's and upgrading parts
The Lian Li Galahad seems good
shrewd sparrow
Guys I need help
Should I use the splitter
My splitter has 2 3 pin and 1 4 pin
And my fans have a 4 pin header
magic wave
yea the motherboard can only get pwm information from one fan on a splitter, so only one pwm pin is present
shrewd sparrow
So I can only plug in one fan @magic wave I toy he splitter
magic wave
no
shrewd sparrow
@magic wave wait than how many????
magic wave
if the fan splitter has 3 outputs, then 3 fans
sorry, 4
4 output 4 fan
I wouldn't personally split a fan header from the motherboard 4 ways
shrewd sparrow
@magic wave can I show u
The splitter looks like that
And my fans had a 4 pin
So what do I do
magic wave
well
shrewd sparrow
And 2 of them are 3 pin
magic wave
plug them in
magic wave
the mobo only needs to read one fan's pwm, the other fans will be controlled the same as the one that is read
shrewd sparrow
magic wave
plugemin
knotty eagle
If youd quit channel hopping and listen to people helping you......
quasi zodiac
Any one know if lian li sells white st 120mm fans in a single pack?
I'm only able to locate a 3pack.
I need 4 of them.
My problem is I'm building in a phanteks p500a case and I can't get the stock fans rgb to work. They won't plug into my cooler master masterfan hub and there's to many of them to plug into the mobo. So I'm looking at replacing them with the lian li st fans because that's what's on my AIO cooler and they work fine.
If there not available as a single I guess I'll get a 140 for the rear instead and just rock the 3 pack for the front.
low pumice
@quasi zodiac should be a rgb hub by the front for the stock fans iirc
quasi zodiac
So I'll be able to daisy chain them and make it take up 1 plug?
It's weird though there a 3pin but not like the normal 3pin.
The mobo rgb header is 4pin (12v G R B)
low pumice
Stock fans should be 3 pin aRGB
quasi zodiac
The ones that came in my case are a 3 pin daisy chain able fan. But it's not the split 3pin it's all 3 together.
low pumice
From the manual
There's a d-rgb connector somewhere in there
I believe the case rgb hub is in the top below where front io is
hub/cable/whatever
quasi zodiac
That's what the plug looks like for the fans rgb. That's the 3 front fans chained together. The one in the back is the same. I can chain it to the 3 in front but still don't see where they would go.
I have these plugs that I also couldn't figure out a place for.
low pumice
That looks like the correct plug
quasi zodiac
Top pic?
quasi zodiac
Bottom is coming from the front io
quasi zodiac
So I plug that 1 into the mobo and don't worry about the daisy chained ones?
low pumice
Are they daisy chained into the front io bit?
quasi zodiac
Looks to me like there coming off each fan. And daisy chained from there.
low pumice
I believe it should be fan->fan->fan->Front io->MB
quasi zodiac
But the plugs on the daisy chained plugs are different then the bottom pic insent.
I sent*
low pumice
Is there any other cables coming off front io, or a header on front io you can plug the daisy chain into?
I need to get myself a p500a so I can tell these things :P
documentation is crap
low pumice
one moment, I think I might be able to get smth
low pumice
Take a look at this bit, on the back, where GN seems to have plugged the fans into
https://youtu.be/G835LGHpeoI?t=385
And/or this bit
low pumice
:)
quasi zodiac
@low pumice much thanks!!
low pumice
You're welcome :D
quasi zodiac
I'm grateful for people like you that have the patients to listen to my not so knowledgeable rants.
low pumice
It wasn't really a bad rant, it was good :)
quasi zodiac
I have 1 more question is your able. It's not cooling related though. Should I bring it to the correct category chat?
low pumice
Any chat works
quasi zodiac
Ok. This case has a front rgb and I don't know where the connector goes.
low pumice
Front rgb? Is there another cable, or do you mean the strip of rgb?
low pumice
That might be able to plug into the chain of daisy chained fans, since I believe you said there was another un-used connector on the last fan?
quasi zodiac
I'll double check quick
It doesn't fit any of the rgb daisy chained plugs. I unplugged and tried a few different spots too.
The 2 in the picture plug into each other but nothing happens.
quasi zodiac
Hmmmm I'll keep poking around and see what I can do. Either way THANK YOU for all your help!!
quasi zodiac
Thanks!
quasi zodiac
Can't figure out why my mobo lights stay on after sitting off the pc. And also after turning back on the system the fan lights we just figured out don't come on until I unplug and replug a connection..
This is making me want to smash my head on the floor lol
knotty sparrow
You might need to disable some c-state in bios
quasi zodiac
The connector I unplug can stay unplugged and the fan lights will stay on.
knotty eagle
I'll ping you if I find anything
Hey Mr Noctua Fan Guy, I have some new NF12 Reduxs coming for my radiator. Almost 3mm of H20, let's see if it makes a difference. 😉
quasi zodiac
knotty eagle
The one labeled MB goes to the MB
quasi zodiac
When my fans rgb doesnt come on I barely touch these together and they pop on.. I looked for a place to plug it into the mobo and nothing has a spot for it. Asus z390-a
low pumice
Hey Mr Noctua Fan Guy, I have some new NF12 Reduxs coming for my radiator. Almo...
Neat, nf-p12's?
Well, z390-a might not have aRGB headers
low pumice
Ye
quasi zodiac
Hmm my head is in a knot.
I got all the rgb working fan and AIO wise. But the fans rgb won't go on until I touch the 2 plugs together that I pictured. They don't need to stay together but that gets them to turn on...
And I'll look in the bios about the mobo lights not turning off.
knotty eagle
Neat, nf-p12's?
knotty eagle
2.83 mm of H20
Highest I could find, curious to see how much more air moves through than the BeQuiet fans I have now
low pumice
Arctic P12's are also nice
knotty eagle
I was looking at those
The Noctua had higher pressure rating for a couple bucks more
low pumice
Fair
quasi zodiac
You might need to disable some c-state in bios
C-state?
I'm in the bios now. Don't really know what to look for
knotty sparrow
C-states are various power modes. When you tell the computer to go to sleep mode for example, it can enter any one of I think 3 c-states. Unfortunately there is absolutely no standardization for where these are located. On my MSI board there's different c-state options in 4 different places.
quasi zodiac
Wow lol ok I'll do some digging. I'm running an asus prime z390-a
knotty sparrow
Asus might have it under
advanced->onboard devices configuration->RGB led lighting->in sleep, hibernate and soft states
timber dome
My cpu is getting to temps of 90 degrees and is getting hot
Are cooler master heatsink good?
I’m also gonna add two noctua fans
Are they quite?
knotty sparrow
If you want to stick to air cooling, se-224 xt, vetroo v5, or gammaxx 400
Noctuas can be some of the best fans
(avoid the hyper 212, less performance for more money than the ones I recommended)
shrewd juniper
and avoid cooler masters aios if you want to have the look of an aio
solar moat
What AIOs are worth buying ~75 bucks
low pumice
None, I'd grab a fuma 2 for ~60 usd
Cheapest decent AIOs start ~90$
120mm AIOs are a joke
solar moat
Do ya know which is better of the three - mugen 5, fuma 2 or ninja 5 @low pumice ?
low pumice
Fuma 2
solar moat
Idk if its called mugen 5, but mugen
low pumice
Mugen 5 rev b is just pretty meh nowadays
solar moat
Any other note worthy coolers from scythe?
solar moat
How's the arctic freezer ii? Idk, whatever the AIO from arctic is caller
low pumice
Freezer ii is great
But 240mm starts at ~100$
severe zodiac
what aio should i get
i have a white case and a white motherboard and stuff but i just need a white aio
so which is the best one
knotty eagle
Lian Li Galahad then
severe zodiac
thanks
knotty eagle
YW
severe zodiac
so what about corsair and nzxt are they worse or better
im trying to get the most out of my r7 3700x
mental cypress
Should I get the Lian Li Galahad? I have an i7 11700F
knotty eagle
If you want a good white AIO then yes
mental cypress
Don't they also have it in black?
knotty eagle
SIlve I know for for sure
Not sure about black
For black, EK or Arctic freezer ii
mental cypress
Okay thanks
severe zodiac
so my case fans are black
can i just spray paint them the shade of white my pc is
like just unscrew the fan off and spray paint it without damaging the leds or spray paint
knotty sparrow
Cover the LEDs with painters tape
White is REALLY hard to match
severe zodiac
thx
sterile echo
Is there any newbie guide for using an RGB and fan controller with an ASUS Aura Sync mobo?
rose isle
Is there any newbie guide for using an RGB and fan controller with an ASUS Aura ...
what fan controller?
sterile echo
Trying to figure out exactly what I need to buy to get 4 RGB fans set up in my rig
sterile echo
what fan controller?
not sure quite yet. Is there any recommendation?
rose isle
the way most of them work is you get a controller that connects with a 3pin argb plug to your motherboard, and then the fans connect to the controller. but it also depends on yur motherboard, if it does have 3pin ARGB, or only 4 pin RGB
sterile echo
It looks like my board has it.
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/TUF-GAMING-B550M-PLUS/
the 3-pin that is
rose isle
yeah, it has one 3pin (5v).
Anyway, you connect the controller to that and you use the aura sync software to control the items connected to that connector
sterile echo
Ok now does it have to be a specific type of RGB controller or will any old one do that accepts an rbg header
zinc ore
If I’m trying to get neutral airflow, which way should my two fans on the bottom be? I have a 240mm radiator on top, 3 fans for front, and one in back
knotty eagle
how many exhaust and how many intake?
zinc ore
I’m not sure how to set up any of them. This is my first build
knotty sparrow
2 bottom intake, 3 front intake, 2 top exhaust through rad (higher speed), 1 rear exhaust (a little higher speed)
knotty sparrow
Neutral pressure is impossible without removing the side panel anyway
It'll always be slightly positive or negative
zinc ore
Ok thanks
marsh badge
hmm
Arctic P12 or F12, which works best for case fans?
They're so similar, so I can't decide
Just askin to plan buyin em later :p
knotty eagle
IMO doesn't matter much
knotty eagle
P12 work just fine as a case fan
marsh badge
My case has one 90-92mm exhaust
Imma replace that as soon as I can too
Stock one I have on it is loud
knotty eagle
That'd be fine as well
marsh badge
kk, thx
knotty eagle
Arctic fans pretty quiet
marsh badge
It shouldn't be a problem if I only have one 4 pin header and no fan controller?
The fans has PST, so I think they should work
knotty eagle
Shoul dbe fine, most headers can do 4-5 fans depending on amp draw
marsh badge
Ah, cool
knotty eagle
If a fan is 0.1 amps you could do 10
knotty eagle
1 header will do 1 amp
marsh badge
2 120 top and 1 90/92 rear
knotty eagle
so just add up the amperage of all the fans, if it's under 1 A you're fine
knotty eagle
4 of those = 1 amp basically
marsh badge
the pwm pst one ofc
alr, ill need a controller
ones that takes sata power, right?
It's annoying the mobo has only single 4 pin
knotty eagle
Probs overkill but this is what I use https://smile.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-FH-10-Integrated-Occupying-Motherboard/dp/B077YHLDSP
marsh badge
Hah, yeah, I only need 5 fans
Or maybe just 4, one top intake, two front
However that controller is cheap enough to me, probably gonna consider it..
weary slate
I think arctic has a $10 controllwr
weary slate
That's fair, arctic's is definitely a bit bigger but is actually enclosed and stuff lol
marsh badge
Imma think about em later
topaz blaze
I currently have an NZXT H500 with 2 stock fans in exhaust that run loud. Any suggestions for quieter fans?
rose isle
adjust your fan curve. change 1 fan to ingest, or get 2 new fans and make them ingest
gentle snow
Rgb fans €30?
rose isle
Rgb fans €30?
make/model?
shrewd juniper
adjust your fan curve. change 1 fan to ingest, or get 2 new fans and make them i...
Can you even have intake in a h500 tho?
I don't think
main stag
rose isle
Can you even have intake in a h500 tho?
in theory, there are mounts in the front
main stag
guys no problem in the first pcie slot with nh-d15?
or wrong channel
it's cooling so I guess this is the right one
rose isle
yeh should be fine.
rose isle
most coolers you have to worry about height clearance in your case and height clearance against RAM sticks
main stag
rose isle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEnAYX07yz0
here is a video wth a board similar to the Tomahawk
main stag
most coolers you have to worry about height clearance in your case and height cl...
picking vengeance lpx nd a lian li mesh cool 2
no problems with clearance right
main stag
then what's with this mobo? the pcie slot is just a bit higher?
rose isle
you might need to move the front fan up a bit
main stag
np
rose isle
then what's with this mobo? the pcie slot is just a bit higher?
yeah, see it has a PCIe slot where the tomahawk has a nvme drive slot
main stag
you might need to move the front fan up a bit
I tot that ram is enough doe
rose isle
yeah, but that cooler is huge
main stag
no ram in existence that's low profile than lpx?
shrewd juniper
in theory, there are mounts in the front
No point sucking air from a hard plastic panel tho
shrewd juniper
picking vengeance lpx nd a lian li mesh cool 2
Get ballistix instead corsair hates their ram users :(
shrewd juniper
no ram in existence that's low profile than lpx?
Ballistix is pretty low profile afaik
low pumice
full d15 is a thicc boi
maybe too thicc
though lancool ii mesh has enough extra room
rose isle
No point sucking air from a hard plastic panel tho
we do what we can 😉
there are those vents on the side
low pumice
uh you sure about that?
rose isle
better than nothing
shrewd juniper
there are those vents on the side
Dremel time XD
low pumice
d15 is 165mm but anyways
main stag
At d15 price why not just go Arctic aio?
i just want air cooler man
or esports duo seems legit too
shrewd juniper
Why not aio tho?
main stag
5900x
shrewd juniper
Hmm look at be quites dark rock 4
main stag
tf
shrewd juniper
cnps20x/d15/drp4 are all on the same level
Cnps20x?
low pumice
still beats d15 in some testing
shrewd juniper
I see
low pumice
still LP
main stag
yes yes
rose isle
look at hyperx dimms
shrewd juniper
Hyperx dummy expensive atm
low pumice
you could go with like aegis
main stag
kingston right
rose isle
the predators are low low low
shrewd juniper
kingston right
Hyper x is hp now iirc
low pumice
can't beat the height of sticks without a heatsink
rose isle
non rgb ones
low pumice
Aegis:
low pumice
:P
main stag
still covered by the noctuas heatsink'
rose isle
true 🤣
shrewd juniper
I'm not worried about the looks of lpx it's the meh dies that lpx uses
rose isle
goin ol blacc build
JAAA!!! STEALTH!
main stag
tf I cant find hyperx dimm height
main stag
so 34
rose isle
yup
main stag
lpx is 33.5mm
rose isle
really?
rose isle
Appearenes can be deceiving
main stag
dang the second fan in noctua nh d15 prob is goin on for years
low pumice
still covered by the noctuas heatsink'
remember you have room to move it up
main stag
versed lion
So it seems my landlord has cut of my water, can I water cool my pc with piss?
magic lark
Is water-cooling better than air cooling?
tired fog
Is water-cooling better than air cooling?
yeah, most of the time
magic lark
Trying to cool a ryzen 7 3700x I currently got a cyrorig H7
Trying to figure out what a good upgrade would be
low pumice
uh
magic lark
air or water cooled but don't wanna go bankrupt lol
tired fog
yee, or if you've got $100 bucks to spend, get yourself an ek-aio basic 240 or an arctic liquid freezer ii 240
magic lark
I think the lancool 2 mesh only supports a 240mm rad
magic lark
Is the arctic freezer quiet?
low pumice
freezer ii is good
magic lark
Gotcha, so It's the Freezer II or the nochua D15
magic lark
idk any other quiet good air coolers
magic lark
Do you know what your idle temp is?
rose isle
I think the lancool 2 mesh only supports a 240mm rad
top mount 240, front mount 360
upbeat tusk
what u recommend for my for 15 10400f cooler?
is the stock cooler ok?
or i change?
eepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler?
knotty sparrow
Se-224 XT, vetroo v5, or gammaxx 400
Whatever is cheap and fits your style
upbeat tusk
i dont care lol
knotty sparrow
One of those three will be good up to about a 10700k
timid carbon
i tried to find rum throw amazon i dont find
?
upbeat tusk
new egg free expensive shipping
timid carbon
i tried to find rum throw amazon i dont find
rum throw???
knotty sparrow
r/ihadastroke
shrewd juniper
Do you know what your idle temp is?
Idle temps don't really matter but idles should be between 30-45c depending on the cooler and how actually idle it is and their fan curve
knotty sparrow
Fan curve has a lot to do with that too
shrewd juniper
My idles are above 50 usually...
I mean you live in a hot climate too, ambient temps are a huge factor too lol
knotty sparrow
A lot of default curves are set so low noise is preferred
shrewd juniper
I usually do a custom curve but yeah lol
timid carbon
I mean you live in a hot climate too, ambient temps are a huge factor too lol
its only like 10-15C above ambient
shrewd juniper
its only like 10-15C above ambient
That sounds about right tho lol
timid carbon
I usually do a custom curve but yeah lol
same but I like quiet while online classes so I have my fans really amp above 60C
because doesnt matter while gaming
shrewd juniper
its only like 10-15C above ambient
Like my idle after 20h of mining straight with an ambient of probs like 18-22c my cpu is around 45c but technically that's cpu idle still
shrewd juniper
same but I like quiet while online classes so I have my fans really amp above 60...
That's fair that's still plenty under throttle temps
timid carbon
Like my idle after 20h of mining straight with an ambient of probs like 18-22c m...
while gaming my cpu and gpu sit in the high 70s
usually 1-2C apart
shrewd juniper
That's perfectly fine
timid carbon
Yep
So im not starting the curve much before that
or rather the upwards fan brrrr
magic lark
I currently have a cryorig h5 ultimate and am unsure if I should upgrade, that's why I'm askin
timid carbon
cpu?
magic lark
Ryzen 7 3700x
plain frigate
do you have the budget to get an aio cause theyre really good
knotty sparrow
Decent AIO coolers start around $100
Anything cheaper might as well get a fuma 2 for $60, same performance (or better) as a $80 AIO
magic lark
I've been told to get the Arctic freezer 2 but I haven't been able to see the long term reliability for it bc I don't really want to have to do extra maintenance
And I can only get the 280mm and I have no fan in the bottom of the lancool 2 mesh right?
knotty sparrow
Maintenance on any AIO is essentially the same as air cooling, just blow the dust out once in a while.
Yes if you get the 280 you can only mount it on the front and no fan will fit under it
The top will fit a 240mm, front up to 280/360mm
magic lark
Ik 360mm is like 160$ tho
rose isle
Ik 360mm is like 160$ tho
240mm top mount is what you want
magic lark
I'm new to water cooler but that'll be hotter right?
knotty sparrow
280mm on the front like you planned is fine still
It won't be that much different
magic lark
And the 240mm Arctic but top mounted
knotty sparrow
Unless you're doing high overclocks
rose isle
for a 3700x you dont need more
rose isle
Unless you're doing high overclocks
unless this
magic lark
Okay, yeah no OCs just want a quieter pc and good thermals
shrewd juniper
240mm arctic will do that perfectly
low pumice
@magic lark fuma 2/ninja 5 would actually do better if you want quiet :P
they're just thicc heatsink with a slow-ish fan
no pump noise that's present in AIO
and the fans run slower with less noise than radiator fans
yaknow
topaz blaze
does anyone have some info on the castle 240x?
is it good?
not good?
i couldnt find much
oblique lava
Is 41 a good idle temp for my cpu
oblique lava
What’s the least bad idle temp then
My cpu is 41 and gpu is 33
Weird that the gpu is way lower but 🤷♂️
I’m a programmer not a hardware guy
solar moat
Its normal.
magic wave
prioritise load temperatures over idle
oblique lava
Just checking fans and whatnot
knotty sparrow
If you don't have an OS yet then you're probably looking at the temp in BIOS, which is not an idle load
fossil sparrow
Guys should I get the NZXT X63 or Be quiet dark rock pro 4 for the 5800x?
it seems to be a hot cpu
marsh badge
Those coolers aren't good value
Get EK AIO or Arctic Liquid Freezer II, at least 240mm
Outperforms those while being cheaper
vivid verge
Currently running stock cooler on a 3700x shpuld i get something else
I also have a 3090 with a backplate that sits at like 100C right below it
knotty sparrow
The 3090 you probably want to change the thermal pads, maybe slap a heatsink onto the backplate.
If your temps are below 85C under load for the CPU you're perfectly fine, 85-92 maybe think about changing it, 93+ definitely change that thing asap
vivid verge
well my 3090 has a 2 slot cooeler on it
knotty sparrow
Only 2 slots? I've seen 3 slot ones overheat
vivid verge
i feel like there is a reason every other 3090 basically takes 3 to 4 slots
yeah the gigabyte eagle 3090 is almost a 2 slot, barely even 3 slot
knotty sparrow
Oh well you didn't mention Gigabyte before, their thermal pads are TRASH
vivid verge
yeah my pc basically a heater
knotty sparrow
I changed the pads on my Gigabyte 3090 and dropped the temps from 110C and throttling, to 94C
vivid verge
also i got the older 3090 drivers and i can push my card to the limit more
i dunno if thats a good thing tho
but i dont crash as much when i overclock
knotty sparrow
Newer driver versions try to limit the gigantic transient power spikes
People were tripping protections on power supplies all the time when it would spike from 400W load to suddenly 650W
bleak edge
why i cant syncronise my fan's rgb with Dragon Center, they dont show in the mystic light option
knotty sparrow
3 pin or 4 pin RGB? Make sure you use the right motherboard header, I see people put a 4 pin device in a 3 pin header a lot and it just kills it.
If it's correct uninstall and reinstall dragon center
Also if you use a hub double check it's plugged into power
bleak edge
If it's correct uninstall and reinstall dragon center
thanks! i'll try that
leaden smelt
My temps dropped by like 14C changing out the thermal pads on 90 strix
it’s ridiculous lol
shrewd juniper
My temps dropped by like 14C changing out the thermal pads on 90 strix
3080/90?
shrewd juniper
Ahh yeah pads are needed for 3090
leaden smelt
Before that rocked me up to 106
shrewd juniper
G6x is toasty
leaden smelt
Well, in my case one of the VRAMs was missing a pad altogether
which is probably the one that was getting reported in hwinfo
shrewd juniper
Oof
shrewd juniper
Yeah good cooler for i5 but don't buy a b460 board, if you already have it's fine
upbeat tusk
yeah already :/
shrewd juniper
Dw bout then
upbeat tusk
?
upbeat tusk
dw bout <<what whis mean
knotty sparrow
3090 should be getting a lot more than just 106 MH
Mine is around 116 after changing pads and adding a backplate heatsink just overclocking memory and dropping power limit, I could do more tuning my v/f curve.
upbeat tusk
kk
leaden smelt
I set my power limit to like 70 @101 hash rate
Weirdly, increasing my memory clocks does nothing to the hash rate
I can be -200 or +1200, nothing
Sorry the 106 was the temperature
lol
shrewd juniper
3090 can't have clock too low for hashrate to be high
leaden smelt
yea my clocks are -150 on the curve
idk, I’m just annoyed that changing the memory does nothing to the hash rate at the given power limit
Idk if it’s because the power limit bottle necks it or I just have a crappy card
shrewd juniper
Idk if it’s because the power limit bottle necks it or I just have a crappy card
Try -50
leaden smelt
Gonna play I with it more when I get home
but I’m actually getting better hashes dropping my memory clocks lol
shrewd juniper
30 series be that way sometimes
topaz blaze
ok so good news and bad news
silverstone h1m
white, matx and mesh
problem is
IT'S NOT IN THE US
AAAAAA
shrewd juniper
<@!191276897227898880>
Id cooling se 224xt
timid carbon
Yep thanks mate
shrewd juniper
Nb
rose isle
silverstone h1m
oh dang! a case with hdd activity led!
shrewd juniper
oh dang! a case with hdd activity led!
A lot of cases have that lol
rose isle
bruh. I honestly thought its something that had been abandoned since SSDs and NVME drives had become common
weary slate
My Coolermaster nr600 has one, my dad walked over and asked me what it was and pushed it when he pointed and unfortunately on that case its also my reset button so that was an oof
rose isle
oooh... I really like the look of that NR600
weary slate
Yea I don't know what they run right now but I think I got mine for like $55
shrewd juniper
bruh. I honestly thought its something that had been abandoned since SSDs and NV...
mine went off when using my sata ssd anyway idk bout m.2 but its still there pretty sure it was an option for my 4000d, mb it wasnt cant remember but was on my old nzxt s340 case and went off when using my sata ssd anyway but idk mb not m.2
i repeated myself like twice but oh well
weary slate
mine went off when using my sata ssd anyway idk bout m.2 but its still there pre...
I think mine would flicker with the m.2 drives in my pc but I'm at work so i can't confirm currently
shrewd juniper
I think mine would flicker with the m.2 drives in my pc but I'm at work so i can...
if it was on my case atm anyway i def didnt plug it in cuz i hated it lol
weary slate
if it was on my case atm anyway i def didnt plug it in cuz i hated it lol
I plugged it in because it's at the top and pretty dull so I was like why not lol. It's not like my old thermaltake case where the power led was so bright I put electrical tape over it and it would still glow blue inside my case from the back of the led lol
shrewd juniper
lmao
weary slate
That case was just garbage in every way imaginable lol
brisk rain
Anyone have any opinions on the Noctua NH-D9L?
topaz blaze
does anyone know of like some cheap aios just to look kinda cool?
preferably in white
but whatever
shrewd juniper
Anyone have any opinions on the Noctua NH-D9L?
if you need a low profile cooler it seems the best way to go most likely your best bet
low pumice
Anyone have any opinions on the Noctua NH-D9L?
Noctua is neat now, they have a compatibility thing for their rating of tdp for what chips the cooler can cool
shrewd juniper
d9l looks very good from what i can see btw, better than the u9s
brisk rain
Noctua is neat now, they have a compatibility thing for their rating of tdp for ...
I'm interested
brisk rain
Cool, I like
low pumice
Here's the compatibility center thing for D9L @brisk rain
https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-D9L-15
Anyways
Noctua neat things
low pumice
What chip?
brisk rain
2700x, probably upgrading in the near future to 5600x or 5800x
shrewd juniper
Are you in a sff case?
low pumice
I would not trust that with a 5800x, might even be a bit on the weak end for 2700x
shrewd juniper
I assume so
brisk rain
147mm max clearance
New case is definitely an option though, this is just a cheap one that I happened to have readily available
shrewd juniper
a new case and new cooler would definitely be way better as you can get a scythe fuma 2 or u12a /d15 or an arctic liquid ii
brisk rain
D15 would probably be overkill, don't you think?
shrewd juniper
5000 is a toasty series
sips runs their 5600x on a 360 enermax aio i think and gets high temps still
brisk rain
Sips has a bad chip and pbo though
brisk rain
I will, but I'm not going to unlock it all the way if I get a bad bin
shrewd juniper
fair
a scythe fuma 2 would be a good option if you get a larger case
will also help with temps over a meh cheapish case
brisk rain
No kidding
My intake fan isn't great
I'd probably go with a U14S if I could fit it. Do you know the ram clearance on the fuma 2?
Unlimited apparently, that's nice
I think I remember GN reviewing this now
low pumice
yeye fuma 2 good
magic lark
I'm not sure if this is actually supposed to be in this chat but I have a Asus tuf gaming x570 plus wifi and I'm kinda worried I'm not going to have enough fan headers for my 240 mm AIO cooler bc my case is gonna come with 4 fans
full tangle
does anyone know any good fan curves speed for exaucsht, intake and cp. My computer sounds like a jet engine and would be pretty helpful
pastel phoenix
I'm not sure if this is actually supposed to be in this chat but I have a Asus t...
Grab a fan splitter
main stag
Guys whats the diff between arctic p12 pwm pst co nd without co
Sorry for the ping but you know this stuff @low pumice
rose isle
10 minute Aida CPU+GPU stress test: 6 fans : 5 intake, 1 exhaust
10 minute Aida CPU+GPU stress test: 8 fans : 5 intake, 3 exhaust
by my calc, if i add 88 more exhaust fans, my cpu will max out at 0
low pumice
@main stag co version is double ball bearing, the other one is fluid bearing
burnt sigil
Oh yeah it’s big brain time
Retrofit a central air conditioning system so it runs negative
rose isle
Retrofit a central air conditioning system so it runs negative
furiosuly takes notes
main stag
<@707458239104680068> co version is double ball bearing, the other one is fluid ...
No non co available should I get the co version
fair walrus
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 - Multi Compatible All-in-One CPU AIO Water Cooler, Compatible with Intel & AMD, Efficient PWM Controlled Pump, Fan Speed: 200-1800 RPM (Controlled via PWM) - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WSDLRVP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_F5R03YX9QCA5DPRX37ZG?psc=1 forgot if i alr asked this, but would this fit on a gigabyte b460m motherboard?
Cyberpower pc-008 lian li case
knotty eagle
It would but you can't overclock on a B460M motherboard so an AIO is sort of unnecessary
fair walrus
im getting TERRIBLE thermals with the stock cooler
idling at around 70 and peaking at 93 while running games
knotty eagle
OH yeah, stock intel cooler is terrible
Or stock CyberPower cooler
What CPU is it?
knotty eagle
Yeah
GN just did a review on those XD
Anyway
I'd get a Vetroo V5, Scythe Fuma 2 or something along those lines
fair walrus
Heres what it looks like
knotty eagle
Yeah GN just literally did a review on that PC
fair walrus
I'd get a Vetroo V5, Scythe Fuma 2 or something along those lines
So an AIO isnt entirely necessary?
knotty eagle
I think the video went up 2 days ago
fair walrus
Imma check it out
knotty eagle
SO here's what I would do
The two fans on the side need to be flipped so they are intake rather than exhaust
fair walrus
Okay
knotty eagle
Right now all of those are blowing out
fair walrus
oh thats dumb okay
knotty eagle
Then get a Vetroo V5 or Fuma 2 or something yeah
fair walrus
How can you tell that they are exhaust and not intake?
fair walrus
alrighty, so just flip the fans and i’ll see a difference?
knotty eagle
Flip the fans and also replace the CPU cooler
The CPU cooler isn't sufficient for the CPU
Also, if you only have 1 stick of ram
Get another one because single channel mode is a big performance hit
fair walrus
This is the exact one i got, replaced everything but the fans so far
i already got 4x16
fair walrus
okay thank you!
knotty eagle
YW!
low pumice
No non co available should I get the co version
Ye, double ball bearing is actually better than fluid bearing
regal rover
anyone got a pump-res recommendation or a recommended place to buying parts for a loop
this a decent one?
low pumice
@regal rover performance PCs is a good place for loop components, you could also just choose to buy a whole soft tube kit from like bykski if you want
regal rover
@low pumice I think I got a set of water cooling components for just under $290 picked out.
regal rover
yes
low pumice
And also doesn't look like d5 pump, meh
knotty eagle
The nice thing about D5 pump/reservoirs is that any D5 pump will work if it dies. WIth that one you'll have to buy a whole new reservoir
rather than just replacing the pump
regal rover
hmmm so it's worth the extra $70+ for a D5?
low pumice
Extra 70$?
low pumice
Check ppcs, should be like a barrow or bykski d5 pump res for like 120$
regal rover
Oh right need that too
knotty eagle
Ya
low pumice
Ick
knotty eagle
Ye, custom loops ain't cheap
low pumice
Can prob do better
knotty eagle
May as well throw in a CPU block and do the whole thing XD
low pumice
A whole CPU+GPU loop bykski kit is like 350$ after shipping
regal rover
no If I CPU block it will be later down the line
regal rover
A whole CPU+GPU loop bykski kit is like 350$ after shipping
I never found one
and you never gave a link
regal rover
I refuse to use ali express and the Performance PCs site sucks, I can't find anything
low pumice
:(
regal rover
lol
low pumice
Demonmit got a full loop off ppcs during cyber Monday for like 150$ lol
regal rover
I can't see anything on the ali express site it's all like 500% zoomed in
knotty eagle
https://www.bykski.us/collections/d5-reservoirs/products/bykski-d5-pump-100mm-pmma-reservoir-combo-black-w-rbw-b-nwd5-f60
https://www.bykski.us/collections/360mm-radiators/products/bykski-360mm-x-29mm-copper-radiator-thin-black-b-rd360-tn
https://www.bykski.us/products/bykski-flex-10mm-id-x-13mm-od-fitting-b-ft3-tn?variant=39326939644002
They don't have flex tubing though
regal rover
I found working comparable components on newegg and that was a pain
knotty eagle
Ppcs
https://www.performance-pcs.com/
PUmp res combos out of stock
low pumice
Wack
regal rover
I think I'll just go for the wegg loop cause it's all in stock
all my fittings are G1/4 10mm, my tubing is 10mm, and all ports are G1/4, all metals match
it might cost a bit more but it seems it's all the parts for a working loop
topaz blaze
does anyone know of like some cheap aios just to look kinda cool?
helpppp
shrewd juniper
does anyone know of like some cheap aios just to look kinda cool?
Arctic liquid ii, ek aio if rgb, galahad if rgb and white/black
fair walrus
Just to be completely sure, this is the correct orientation of the fans? @knotty eagle
fair walrus
Alright thank you!
knotty eagle
Bringing cool air in
YW
Might even help with temps a little bit but IDK. I don't think GN tested them in in the intake configuration in that video
idle tiger
I tried to pick matching metals too
You didn't buy this, did you?
Why go aluminum
Also, go with compression over barb fittings
idle tiger
Isn't that rad copper/brass?
idle tiger
Yeah I would see what you can cancel and just use all copper/brass/nicken plated parts
barbs are fine - but you'll want to zip tie or hose clamp everything
main stag
Ye, double ball bearing is actually better than fluid bearing
Bit pricey but can afford it sooo imma take it
low pumice
fair
unique lilyBOT
Cale#4822 has been warned
severe zodiac
and it's doing the whirring sound
knotty sparrow
3 pin or 4 pin fan?
knotty eagle
Motor could be bad. Stop it with your finger in the center of it, flick it to restart it and see if it goes away
knotty sparrow
Make sure it's set to DC mode in BIOS, not PWM
severe zodiac
thanks i'll see if that works
but when i put my hand on the back of the
metal thing behind it it's not making the noise
it was set to dc but it still making hte noise
i flicked the fan and it still makes the noise
knotty sparrow
If you have some foam or something similar you can try putting it between the fan and the mounting points on the case, if it's a vibration noise that'll help.
severe zodiac
ok
idle tiger
Even if it was set to pwm in bios that'd just make it run full speed at 12v
knotty sparrow
Yeah I didn't know exactly what "whirring" sound it was exactly though, could have just been a loud fan whir but it's looking like vibration, something touching the blades, or a bad motor like Vintage said.
knotty eagle
Might just be a loose screw allowing it to vibrate against the case yeah
Although pressing on the fan cage should stop that
knotty sparrow
Yep that's what they said, pressing on the back stopped it. That's why I thought vibration.
old jacinth
I got the cooler that vintage recommended me, but it seems to not be working and I have no idea what to do...
if anybody have any advice, I could really use it right now
please
knotty sparrow
Which cooler? Not working how?
knotty sparrow
AMD or Intel?
old jacinth
Intel
knotty sparrow
Is it that 7700k in your disc name?
old jacinth
Yeah, sadly lol
knotty sparrow
Nah that's still a decent enough CPU
old jacinth
Not for what I do, but its getting the job done, albeit slowly
but for now I would just like it to not be thermonuclear ._.
knotty sparrow
You using the right bracket for the cooler?
knotty sparrow
Ok, what procedure did you use to screw it in?
old jacinth
Bottom right, top left, top right, bottom left
2 full rotations on each, repeating until tight
When I tighttened it all the way the first time people told me it was way too tight (it took 30 rotations per screw)
This time I only did 10 each, and the idle is better, but the full cooling power seems to be just as bad or worse
knotty sparrow
I find the best way to get even pressure is to do them a little bit each until it's just hand tight, not forcing it. That sound about like what you did?
old jacinth
yes
knotty sparrow
You're using the stock paste the cooler came with? Was it pre-applied or did you have to put it on?
old jacinth
I am using Mx4
knotty sparrow
Ok, how much did you put on and what pattern did you use?
knotty sparrow
Hmm. That should have been fine.
What exactly were your temps?
old jacinth
50C idle, and easily 100C when under load
knotty sparrow
Ouch definitely throttling then
Maybe remount the cooler again and try an X instead of a dot. See how much it spread out before you wipe it off too.
And make sure the bracket is on the correct side of the cooler, I made that mistake before and it didn't contact the die much.
knotty eagle
That pic, the screw on the upper right corner, is it below the level of the pipes?
hard to tell but looks like it's sitting proud and not all the way in
old jacinth
It is below
old jacinth
Maybe remount the cooler again and try an X instead of a dot. See how much it sp...
Ok, I'm trying a few new things
ok, i got to my lowest temp ywt
37C idle
knotty sparrow
That's a decent idle temp for air cooling
idle tiger
Whenever you state your temps you should also state package power
old jacinth
That's a decent idle temp for air cooling
Still easily hit 100c under load
Voltage 1.21v on the core
I have no idea what it could be...
old jacinth
Welp, I don't think I'm gonna be able to use my PC like this
strange niche
AMD or Intel?
AMD! 🙂