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as a matter of fact, I think the CPUs I have on this PC are just heat sinks HAHA not like they have now! And I have Xeons too
but one of my monitors crapped out, and 1 thing led to another, and I am building a new PC HAHA
That's how it ends up
I got a on a cycle of every 2-3 years upgrading components. MB/CPU one cycle, GPU the next
Maybe a new case or something in between
to tell you the truth, for what I do anymore, this PC is enough ... but I wanted to try the M.2 drives, and have 32G RAM ... yada yada HAHA
besides, if the wife can keep buying pots and pans and all that crap, I can buy parts for a PC! HAHA
just don't tell her what I spent! AHHA
anyway ... thanks and take care and be safe
I'm thinking of overclocking my 2600X, would i need to buy another cooler?
IF you're on the stock spire, yes
F
gammax 400
Thermaltake UX200 ARGB?
I haven't seen tests of that particular one so.....no opinion
if you want a nice looking one that works well get the gammax GT BK
or, the non-bk version
thats just the one i think looks best
looks like RGB intel stock cooler lmao
lol
Hey guys. So im about to be building a 10700 build. Its my first time overclocking so im at the point of choosing a cooler. Are the obv air coolers(noctuas and dark rocks) sufficient or is my 240 aio hunch correct? im budget oriented as far as aio's go...
Ide be perfectly fine with grabbing a prpo 4 or something. Also max height is 165mm
Pro*
Depends on the case and motherboard
Those CPU coolers are huge
Might hit ram or block top case fans
I really think imma get the TD500 mesh cooler master
and the mobo is z490 msi gaming edge wifi
also ram clearance
how can i check that as well
I like to run 4 sticks so thats would be a thing for me as well
So is it possible to spend 120 or less on a 240 aio and get a decent product?
Yes
Reason: Bad word usage
dang my bad, *shoot. Idc about rgb im a big thermal fanboy
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3457-corsair-h115i-rgb-platinum-cooler-review-asetek-vs-coolit
Asetek has a stranglehold on most of the closed-loop liquid cooler market for PC hardware, easily holding majority placement in all CLCs sold in the US. CoolIT has long been a contender of Asetekโs, with the two having battled legally over Asetekโs patents on pump-in-block design, and has also been one of Corsairโs two liquid cooling partners. -...
There's a lot of coolers in the test charts
Question of fans and mounting them to my aio. Is it fine to put them in front of the radiator if I mount to front and push air through or put them on top of the radiator and pull air through if I mount on top? I understand that there may be more dust if I am pushing air through.
If you use it for exhaust, definitely push
Ok to push on front though if I decide to mount there?
Yeah
Is 90 degrees bad for a cpu?
over time yeah
like if it's running @90C all the time while gaming or when the pc is on it will be bad, but a few spikes shouldn't hurt
Just while gaming is fine?
Cus when im playing a game its 90 when doin nothing its 60-79
Oh
idle is 60C?
Sounds like it's not mounted correctly
Shut EVERYTHING down. Close all programs
Its a prebuilt haha
Its not stock
SOunds like it's not mounted properly
Celcius
Reason: Bad word usage
Anyway, it seems like it's not mounted properly or loose
Yeah sounds it
How would i fix that
Oh damn
Turn it off, unmount the heatsink from cpu and check
60 70 would melt thermal paste
Id rather not mess with anything inside, thats why i gotba prebuilt
oh
Can you tell if its mounted wrong by a picture? Or would i have to take it off
Cus i dont really want to do that
You'd have to take it off and see
Not really.
Hm
Actually
Or see if a clip came off
Did you check to see if the power connector to your cooling is in fact connected?
Does the heatsink have a fan on top of it?
Whats a heatsink
I mean, if it's a prebuilt
Not sure I'd touch it because warranty
I'd message the seller or manufacturer
Tryna do that rn
Eh maybe but can see just by looking at it if it's a clear sided pc
I mean, not if a clip is loose or a mounting screw is loose
TBH, they could have left the plastic on the bottom of the cooler too
Yes, it's happened before
Truth lol
Does room temp do anything to temps
Ok look inside and you should see a large square piece of metal on the upper middle or top of your motherboard
It can but not unless you are in an oven
Oh lol
Especially with those levels lol
It might be a large square fan
If its a fan, trace it back visually to see if the wire is actually connected. should be a few tiny thin wires.
Its not a fan
Ok so solid metal with rubber pipes coming out of it?
What prebuilt is this?
Yep
Yeah, should NOT be that hot
Hmm
I'd wager the pump isn't running at 100% speed like it should be
How do i change that
Retaining screws look fine.
Where in the bios
I see QFan Control
CPU FAN FUll Speed
Did that change any of the fan speeds?
Cuz they may have it plugged in wonky
Whats CHA Fan
Hold on, what orientation is the pic? straight up and down or sideways?
Probably the fan for the cooler
That's much better
Alot better.
Should i change that
Wouldn't hurt to turn that up a little bit also, just adjust the curve
Yes. idle it up a bit.
Afterburner is a little lower but it still says 55
Is it dropping?
Lemme check that
Yeah raise the cha fan.
Also is there a way to get into bios without turning off the pc
No
K
If its not cooling faster than its taking in heat, gonna have higher internal temps
Yeah.
What should i put CHA FAN to? Standard silent turbo or full speed or manual
Then we decide where to put it
I'd leave it TBH
Is the back fan the only fan in the case?
Yeah looks okish.
Hmmm
That's wierd.
Digital Storm Lynx Level 4
They removed it from their website if ur going to that
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Download and run CPU-Z
CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :
Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
Mainboard and chipset.
Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency.
T...
Tell me what the motherboard is
Ok but first what should i put the CHA FAN to? PWM or DC
setup
Ok i downloaded it
Run the program and install it
waaaaatttt
Yeah
Downloads folder
Ok
the little computer/cdrom icon that says cpu-z
Yeah
It opened Notepad???
But sfter i did that it opened a notepad
So is it supposed to be notepad
CLose browser, open windows etc, get to desktop
I was doing a lookie loo and I think this might be the same for all the lynx models
is there a little box there asking you to run it?
The 240mm liquid-cooling radiator for the processor, shown above, is mounted vertically behind the front panel. Two 120mm fans send cool air through it, while a third 120mm fan mounted underneath provides cooling to the 3.5-inch drive bays.
Sorry what do i do?
On your desktop
Yeah
Click Mainboard tab
Ok
Say manufacturer and model please
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. and PRIME H310M-E R2.0
perfect
Yep.
What now
hang on
Kk
Should be able to download and install this from ASUS, you can use it to access Q-Fan from Windows
It's AI Suite III
kk installing rn
MSI Afterburner
Oh really
wait a minute
What should i use for cpu temps
Yes lol
Facepalm
Well
What should i use for cpu temps
Yeah
Ok
AMD Radeon Rx 5700 Xt
Ooh
Max temp for them is 100C
That makes so much more sense now
Anyway, if you want CPU fan control, use the AI Suite
For Graphics, use Afterburner
Yes
How do i use it
Setup.exe.manifest?
Oh yeah i see it thanks
@knotty eagle i downloaded it, but it didn't create a desktop shotcut or anything. how do i get to it?
did that and then i did the setup
Open it, run the SETUP program
i did that already
Click windows icon, ASUS folder, AI Suite III
Might need to reboot first though if it doesn't work
good
ok bet thanks so much
YW
AI Suite should be able to control your fans too
OPen it
click three bars on left
Fan Xpert 4
It'll have to run a test to check RPM's
then should be able to adjust the case and CPU cooler fan
Errr I oopsied
Think this will still be okay or should buy new thermal paste before I install it
Always new thermal paste
Feeling like a right twat lol
Cool idea for manufacturers to use this but you should remove that and apply your own
Any recommendations on what paste to get?
arctic silver mx4
Didn't realize they were the same company. Thought arctic and arctic silver were different
there so many different artic mx4's
they go by size i think on amazon
4 gram size should do you fine
bottle of 90% isopropyl and a bunch of q tips when cleaning off your old thermal paste will take it right off easily without fear of it really leaving residue unless you want to go hardcore and lap the heatsink which really wont do much for ya especially with an aio
as It will arrive tomorrow
All on you with that one.
@knotty eagle i was playing a game and a little icon popped up in the bottom right of my screen. When i pressed on it, it gave me the option to change the fan settings like in the bios. Is there a way to remove that? So it doesnโt mess me up during a game
alright I am ready to finally replace my plain black case fans with some white RGB fans so I can brighten up my desk a bit. I don't want the case to look like a damn disco, just some nice, truly white light.
I have my eyes on the Corsair ML120 Pros, but have heard from a few people that they are noisy. And their pricey.
Can anyone offer any other suggestions? What's your favorite 120mm case fan?
I found 2 for $60. So, I may pull the trigger on the ML and give them a shot.
I bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler and the website said that it was compatible with LGA 1200. When I received the cooler, the instructions did not specify how to install the cooler for LGA 1200 type CPUs. In the Q & A section, a person said that they had this issue and were told to contact the company for more parts/instructions. I was wondering if I have to contact Cooler Master or Newegg and if anyone has any advice on the matter.
Use the LGA 1151 instructions
Thank you!
YW
@knotty eagle how do i remove this?
CLick the gear icon
Then the circle i the middle on the far left
Sorry
Far RIGHT LOL
OH
And it doesnt show up in starup
Alot of programs i have dont show up in the startup menu for some reason
I don't honestly know
I just let mine run at startup
I checked settings and didn't anything for startup
Dang thats annoying
You remove it everytime you restart?
@knotty eagle i found out how to remove it. I right clicked the up arrow on the windows taskbar, right clicked the fan thing and pressed startup
5600x
Ah
Mmmm
This one is black, and nice and quiet https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-dark-rock-slim/p/13C-001F-00030
THis one is good too https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-u12s/p/N82E16835608040
Would probably work yeah
Thanks
YW. Definitely better than the stock hunk of aluminum
okay ty
Air comes in the front, out the top
Eh
says to use the fans as an intake but I have also seen alot of people saying to exhaust
Exhaust is fine
Unless your case has poor airflow
Mine is exhaust, still super cold
Yeah, should be OK
Thank you
YW
should i get Arctic liquid freezer ii 280 or 380? i donโt get whatโs the difference between them
alright
i was looking at this cooler https://www.newegg.com/raijintek-0r10b00083-copper/p/2T3-0007-00006?Item=9SIA66ZBSX7550 can i just use any 120mm fan or
ive never swaped them before but the stock fans on my 2080ti went out
just looking for help with the order or any better ideas i cant seem to find an aio or anything
any help would be much appreciated
ive heard of it before
basically what i wanted to know if i got that cooler just order any 120mm fan?
ok thats what i was looking for the (8 fan clips: 4pcs for 12025, 4pcs for 12013) threw me off im still fairly new to the custom coolers and stuff
This comes with fans
ahh yes i did see that somewhere not super apealing but lol
It just lists RTX 2080 Super/TI
Probably reference style designs. SO it should work with EVGA
EIther or would work, your preference
if the Arctic doesn't look right, add your own fans to the Raijin
ok i appreciate that man tyvm ๐
YW
@knotty eagle i went with the arctic seems like the best option for me atm
most definitely
whats a good cooler for a ryzen threadripper pro?
aside from the noctua ones
i was thinking of the dark rock pro tr4
custom loop will be the best
this one
in peoples opinions, is a dark rock 4 enough to apply an oc to a 5600x and keep it within 60~75c range?
yes
@stray pecan yes
thx
Oh yeah, that's way more than enough. It's also a BIG cooler so keep that in mind for your build
That's 5v argb you're trying to plug into 12v rgb..?
3 pin is 5v aRGB, 4 pin is 12v RGB
It's weird
Will I lose the argb?
I can change fan color
From this
But I do t want to have to take of back every time
You have to use the controller
Yeah, there are two RGB specifications
aRGB is 5 v and 3 pin. RGB is 12v and 4 pin
Kinda confusing because it's not explained well anywhere
I can get any color to do this
The 3 pins Iโm seeing for adapters are ... not .. .
Wait
Will es other of these be able to go into mb
They came out of the controller
that system you have isn't compatible with your motherboard
i mixed thermal pastes help
how did they taste
Will the paste spread once I apply the cooler
Or need more paste to cover the edges
it will spread
Did you tape that off and do it?
normally you only need a small drop
damn that's an interesting application
what the
it's interesting to say the least
kind of seems like too much paste tbh
It's a extremely thin layer
Umm... interesting lol
I am more of a dot the edges man, although to be fair many been working w server boards recently
And nt-h2 for life
my problem now is
my cpu is strx4 and not tr4
but i heard noctua tr4 coolers will work on strx4 but idk about dark rock pro tr4s
Can someone with high power message me I have a question
wat
I have a cooler I do not need anymore.
craigslist if ur ok with maybe getting shot
as long as u have a gun too there is no problem
I'll take my RPG I should be ok
hey guys, i'm planing to replace an aio's fans with the Lian Uni fans but i dont know what 360 is going to be my sacrifice (am4 btw and my budget for an aio is $400 tops), any recommendations?
Going to sleep rn, sorry if i dont reply for 10 hours or so.
i like the EK aio
How long should an AIO last?
what would be the best entire water cooling kit i could get for under 300$
So question i ha e the stock and cooler but my fans a blowing around 50% even when idle, should I mess with the fan curve or is it cuz the stock cooler runs warmer than 3rd party coolers?
Amd cooler*
Probably, yes
That's fairly typical
You can adjust the fan curve if you want
Just keep an eye on temps
Okay I guess i know my next upgrade
5600x?
Si
How do I monitor temps outside of bios? My gpu shows the temp in the task manager but cpu doesn't
What software if good for that
And I've been recommended the scythe something or something else in here before
50 bucks
Yeah
Anyone using air cooling with 5900x? What's best and "safe" AIO or air cooling for new Ryzen series?
i know this seems stupid but wwhat does the tdp on a cpu cooler mean?
It's the cpu tdp its designed to cool right
Not the power it sucks
Correct
ok
thanks
i was planning on getting the DeepCool GAMMAX 400 Pro
for my cpu
what do you guys think of it
an yopinions form someone ho already bought it?
It has a very compelling price
FOr what CPU?
and from what i have seen its as good (if not better) than the hyper 212
Better than 212 yes
I know it seems overkill, but for a 5 1600AF
It is there for upgradability
i just found out u can set fan curves in icue
unfortunately ID Cooling, bequiet and some other brands arent avaliable in SA
and if they are its for an absolutely absurd price
welp
that was the last confirmation i needed
like
at night
with ambient temps at around 28 degrees
I ran prime95 small ftts for 20 minutes
and it got up to 100 degrees
And not a realistic load
i know, but i need prime95 for stability testing
Something like cinebench is a better test for real world scenarios
i ill also buy a better case
since the one im using it more of a "compact" styled case
and it cant fit the gammax 400
or any cooler basically
I was thinking of a case made by a very famous brand here
Hmmmm
Reason: Bad word usage
again, prices are crap in S.A
ah
i already settled on the gammax 400 pro
Cryorig?
I dont really care about noise
Cooler Master?
nope
It is a little bit more noisy but
gammax 400 pro is 180W tdp
Noise does not bother me at all
In fact, I set my cpu fans to Full Speed all the time
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
That cooler master one has good reviews
well yeah but....the 1600AF will get nowhere near that
that way i can use it on a next build
meh
when i say it was compact style i mean it was a small sized mATX case
so
the max cpu cooler size is if im not mistaken 14,7mm
ahh i see i have the h100i rgb pro xt with the 240 mm rad on a ryzen 7 2700x
Ya, that's just fine
perfect
which wouldb e equivalent to how many Watts
Like, 1-6 watts
BUt it has no effect on the TDP
TDP = Thermal Dissipative Power
NOt power draw
Not power use
Just how much heat it can handle
kk
also, a 180w tdp like ice giant will pull vastly different power than a Noctua cooler
whats a good aio for a 1500$ build with a ryzen 5 3600
H115i/H100i/EK 240mm
Freezer ii 240mm/280mm
alright thank you
push is better then pull right on an aio?
Yes
the 280 be in stock on amazon again thats pretty pog might hold out and do an io top mount and put the fans i bought from artic and do a push and pull
well assuming you can mount fans on both sides
yeah but i have the fans already and it comes with some so why not
i probably wont though and use what i bought to keep them all the same
Because you want air to flow through the radiator. A fan on the opposite side is more of a wall than flow
Good idea!
yeah i may return the two 140s i bought cuz at the cost of an air cooler and the fans i ordered its only 30 bucks more for the aio
then again air coolers can live longer
Well, technically yeah but AIO should last 6-7+ years
true ill have to do the brain cranks and thonk on it
does anyone here with a deepcool gammax 400 / 400 Pro know if it makes any noise
5600x any cpu coolers ?
lots!
gammaxx 400/Mugen5/shadow rock 3/hyper212/arctic e-sports duo
that weird orb shaped one too
yo anyone knows the best cooler for ryzen 5 3600
Stock cooler is fine for most cases
there really loud in my opinion
is that a good cooler?
ok thank you alot
ok ill look at them all
$30-$40
damn now its going to be hard to choose lol
Can also get a wraith prism for less on ebay from somebody who didn't use theirs
That too
ah ok
i have the level 20 mt argb thermaltake case
noctua's are fantastic but also pricey
ya i saw there coolers
like 80 bucks
i think i like the Gammax 400
would it fit in this
cant send pics
level 20 mt argb thermaltake case
if you want argb they have an argb model too
It's either Strix or Aorus lol
If it's Unify it'd be pog
@knotty eagle
Mr1111 is right
vrms?
Yeah they get a bit warm
Voltage regulation modules
But with a 3600 it's not really a big issue
But should be fine for 3600
It's definitely not a board worth 300$
Like, 3900/5900 might be an issue
fax ;-;
3900/5900 WILL have an issue if you OC
but does it have a good upgrade path
Debauer vrm testing was with 3900x
Nah
When putting AIO in front of case do I put the fans on the AIO first or put them on case first?
AIO first
Easier that way
I have nzxt h150i
I donโt think I can take front panel off
I just realized this
Yikes 
wow
Welp ooof
drummel time?
my aio is making some water splash noises. should i be worried its been only running for 2 months with tubes up. or should i flip the pc on its side bc i changed my aio to push the other day and i didnt hear it maybe some air bubbles got stuck in the pump.
I've noticed that on some motherboards with some AIOs the pump or more specifically where the tubes connect to the pump they sometimes block the first RAM slot which I know is very often fine when you only have two sticks but how can I assure that I get a MOBO that it doesn't happen on or can I prevent it by mounting the pump in a way that those tubes are on the left side rather than the right side where the RAM slots are? Sorry if this is quite a stupid question, planning to get my first AIO in the near future and wanna know everything I need to know
@crude salmon for top aio mount (which you should do), usually you'd have pipes come out the left anyways
Yeah I'm planning to mount it at the top
@swift pumice You seen the GN vid on aio tubing orientation yet?
But I'm noticing most people mount it on the right
Not even most people
All people
So I'm wondering if it's possible
I'm not talking about where the tubes connect to the radiator, I rather mean where the tubes connect to the pump
i saw the jaytwo cents one
gn was to long
because this can cause noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk
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With this specific cooler it's fine but I've noticed that with the NZXT Z63 and Z73 most motherboards don't leave enough clearance for the first slot
it all really depends on the specific aio tbh
Yeah so I'm just wondering if there's a way around that
yea they but the tubes on the aio down or the otherway
So it's possible to mount it in different ways for example with the tubes at the bottom or to the left of the pump?
From Z73 manual for the mounting bracket, looks like you can flip it around to be left or right
Where do you see that in that picture? Also will it be able to be mountain both ways on an intel LGA 1200 socket too?
What I mean is that on this motherboard it's fine
https://gyazo.com/bb09fe4341997d2d0c322548b34292a3
While on this one it isn't while being the same AIO
https://gyazo.com/4c5bef7c6d8fb19df15f1f6f7c9284ec
So basically my question is how can I assure my motherboard will have enough clearance both for 4 sticks and a cooler like that one
only guarantee is to go air cooling :D
Yeah for a while I thought I'll just do that but all of a sudden I really wanna get an AIO lmao
@crude salmon how could you resist a NH-U12a though
great performance
godly reliability
I know but the looks of fancy AIOs like the Z67 or Z73
bottom looks like an itx board
They're both ATX
dunno if the spacing between cpu and ram might be tigher on itx boards or smth
is one ryzen and one intel?
because i feel like that spacing would be a standardised thing between catagories
I might just go with the good ol' reliable air cooler but I kinda want an AIO all of a sudden
both intel
hmmm
what do you want the aio for?
cause if its looks, theres some really nice lookin air coolers out there
gammax gt BK being one of them
but that can be a bit small for some cpu's
Well it's not just the looks, looks is a part of it but it's also for the cooling capabilities and because I have a 10600K I'll correct my wrongs from a few months ago and actually get a Z490 and will probably do some overclocking
I'm also really interested in trying liquid cooling
@twilit abyss does that make sense or should I stick to an air cooler?
^
Well I'm planning to go for a 360, and I'll keep it for at least the next CPU I get too
I have considered the U12A or Mugen 5
Still am
then grab a u12a :P
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Idk I'm just really into AIO all of a sudden
If it's not the right call I'll get over it
compatibility, reliability, upgradability
So what causes AIOs to be so popular, especially on youtube, looks?
If you can get something like the U12A that is way cheaper
Well, I guess I'll either get over my sudden urge for an AIO or I'll give in to it, I'll see
But in terms of air cooling, Mugen 5 and U12A are about the same performance?
Alright, then could the Mugen 5 be enough for light to medium overclocking with a 10600K?
Just wondering because the U12A is quite pricy
Lol hell yeah noctua haha
Well, I guess I'll see what my budget will end up looking like and what my gut wants and reach a decision
Thank you for all the help!
yea flipping my pc on its back fixed the air bubble problem.
now the air is back in the rad
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no
no
can minimal rattling sounds be ok in AIO? I assume its air bubbles but idk if its ok or not
idk if its rattling per say, but def a small sound every once and a while
I buying some fans, Iโm debating between asiahorse and stella. Which ones do yโall recommend?
Asia horse
Stellas make me vomit
Bad software and 20$ shipping
Doesnโt matter how many leds u have if u canโt control them
So I was planning on getting a liquid freezer ii 360 for my build, but they are sold out everywhere. What would be another good option?
EK 240mm
depends where u hear the air bubbles. that rattle noise can be in the rad as well if the tubes or up
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I have a MSI RTX2070 Super GPU and I am trying to find a liquid cooling block
can anyone point me in the right direction???
it is 99% chance not a wise use of money. of there even is one
If Im wanting 3 more fans but mobo only has 1 spare header, do you recommend a splitter or hub?
splitter
im looking for some good 5V 3-Pin argb 120mm fans that are compatible with MSI Mystic Light for my case i need better ones the ones i have dont push enough air i need 5 of them, my current fans are GIM kb-11s, does any body have good suggestions. i would like to stay in the $60 range (noise doesnt bother me much i always use a headset)
I dunno, I like my pc sounding like an aquarium 
lmao
jeez
i switched my fans from full speed and added in a fan curve
wow
this feels so good
i can barely hear anything
i have a weird argb question
so i'm using cooler masters argb solution and i'm wondering, can you split an argb splitter cable with another splitter cable connected to one of the ends ?
All my fans are at top speed but idle my cpu is 50-60 degrees. Is that bad
Load temp more important than idle
Ik but im just a little worried
Its usually 40
But this morning its been significantly higher
There's nothing using CPU?
In that case, turn fans down see if temp goes down
I turned em down. Now its sitting around 44
That indicates your case either has poor flow OR the fans aren't configured properly
Hey guys (And vintageRacer79, good to see you here too :) ) - my mobo and CPU bit the dust yesterday, so I'm getting some new gear, and wanted to ask what the pitfalls are for a pre-assembled (AIO) water cooling - it seems like it's too good to be true that it's really that much better than fans, so wanted to ask you guys
The way I seem to understand is that it's better for sound (I'm doing a lot more recording from home now), and keeps the baseline temperature lower as opposed to being triggered as a fan/HS, but let me know if I'm wrong in that
There are benefits to AIO's: heat goes directly out of the case, takes up less room than big CPU coolers, takes longer to heat saturate (in some cases), but unless you get a good one a good air CPU cooler can work just as well as an AIO.
Noctua NH-D15 I think it is >= Most AIO Water Cooling
Also huge though
Quite true, but in my opinion after having 2 closed AIO cooler pumps fail within months of each other in a row (same system) I decided I'd much rather be able to SEE the failure.
@lilac flame by the way, coolers should be compared with noise normalized performance, so noise will be basically the same
What AIO did you get that failed within 2 months?
I had a monster noctua fan in my last rig - it worked but yeah it was a biggin
Seems like a spoop AIO to me
Agreed, plus I'm using gates, but figured if it helped everything else its an added bonus
From decent air coolers to good aios, it's just a 3-7c difference
keep in mind, the Fuma 2 sells for 60$, while like a EK-AIO 240mm sells for what, 120$?
This is noise normalized to 35dBA
It was a while back I'd have to check but yeah, it was super annoying, first one was a "No problem we'll send you another." the second time around it was "Okay send us that one back and we'll send you a new one." then when that failed I decided I didn't want to have the system down for another month waiting for shipping.
Hm, makes sense. I was looking at the MSI 360R, which I don't even see on there
Freezer ii is the only real good price to performance AIO, so that remains an option, otherwise, air cooling just offers so much more performance per dollar
The Liqtechs are notoriously terrible
@lilac flame MSI's AIOs are non-asetech pumps and fall behind asetech designs like the NZXT X62/X72 from other testing
Woof, glad I asked
Looks like it was around 2012ish
AIO's look so clean though
Kitguru testing:
Haha I think I'm the only audio engineer that doesn't care about what the innards look like so long as I can easily access it
the 360mm aio falling behind 240mm aios is somewhat embarrassing
Wow the noctua does better? Where is this chart, I seem to be googling the wrong terms
Which means this one Noctua fan has lasted me since then through multiple system rebuilds (also had to buy a mounting kit from Noctua to put it in my current system)
Here, I generally only use their noise normalized performance, since noise is annoying :P
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/james-dawson/msi-mag-coreliquid-360r-aio-cpu-cooler-review/5/
@lilac flame Generally, if I'm looking for cooler testing, I check if Gamers Nexus did a review on them yet, if not, I just google and look for either TPU, Tom's hardware, Kitguru, or Anandtech
Tom's hardware is a usual for me, but I feel like their stuff is outdated half the time
Well, that's exaggerated, but still
they do test with like 6700k iirc, which is a bit old, but numbers are numbers
That's awesome though, I'll check these out, Thank you!
TPU is techpowerup
Ok cool, I'll take a look
Thank you guys, this is really helpful! Have an awesome rest of your day!
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