#old-cooling

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knotty eagle
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LOL!

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Just like riding a bike

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almost

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Fall off a couple times maybe

light lagoon
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as a matter of fact, I think the CPUs I have on this PC are just heat sinks HAHA not like they have now! And I have Xeons too

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but one of my monitors crapped out, and 1 thing led to another, and I am building a new PC HAHA

knotty eagle
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That's how it ends up

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I got a on a cycle of every 2-3 years upgrading components. MB/CPU one cycle, GPU the next

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Maybe a new case or something in between

light lagoon
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to tell you the truth, for what I do anymore, this PC is enough ... but I wanted to try the M.2 drives, and have 32G RAM ... yada yada HAHA

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besides, if the wife can keep buying pots and pans and all that crap, I can buy parts for a PC! HAHA

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just don't tell her what I spent! AHHA

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anyway ... thanks and take care and be safe

topaz blaze
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I'm thinking of overclocking my 2600X, would i need to buy another cooler?

knotty eagle
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IF you're on the stock spire, yes

topaz blaze
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F

knotty eagle
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gammax 400

topaz blaze
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Thermaltake UX200 ARGB?

knotty eagle
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I haven't seen tests of that particular one so.....no opinion

twilit abyss
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if you want a nice looking one that works well get the gammax GT BK

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or, the non-bk version

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thats just the one i think looks best

granite patrol
topaz blaze
sage ravine
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Hey guys. So im about to be building a 10700 build. Its my first time overclocking so im at the point of choosing a cooler. Are the obv air coolers(noctuas and dark rocks) sufficient or is my 240 aio hunch correct? im budget oriented as far as aio's go...

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Ide be perfectly fine with grabbing a prpo 4 or something. Also max height is 165mm

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Pro*

knotty eagle
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Depends on the case and motherboard

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Those CPU coolers are huge

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Might hit ram or block top case fans

sage ravine
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I really think imma get the TD500 mesh cooler master

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and the mobo is z490 msi gaming edge wifi

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also ram clearance

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how can i check that as well

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I like to run 4 sticks so thats would be a thing for me as well

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So is it possible to spend 120 or less on a 240 aio and get a decent product?

knotty eagle
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Yes

unique lilyBOT
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johnnytwotimed#4365 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sage ravine
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dang my bad, *shoot. Idc about rgb im a big thermal fanboy

knotty eagle
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There's a lot of coolers in the test charts

restive bloom
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Question of fans and mounting them to my aio. Is it fine to put them in front of the radiator if I mount to front and push air through or put them on top of the radiator and pull air through if I mount on top? I understand that there may be more dust if I am pushing air through.

knotty eagle
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If you use it for exhaust, definitely push

restive bloom
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Ok to push on front though if I decide to mount there?

knotty eagle
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Yeah

earnest gazelle
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Is 90 degrees bad for a cpu?

sacred pagoda
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over time yeah

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like if it's running @90C all the time while gaming or when the pc is on it will be bad, but a few spikes shouldn't hurt

earnest gazelle
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Just while gaming is fine?

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Cus when im playing a game its 90 when doin nothing its 60-79

knotty eagle
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Oh

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idle is 60C?

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Sounds like it's not mounted correctly

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Shut EVERYTHING down. Close all programs

earnest gazelle
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Its a prebuilt haha

knotty eagle
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Still

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stock cooler shouldn't be that hot

earnest gazelle
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Its not stock

knotty eagle
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SOunds like it's not mounted properly

safe jetty
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Is it celcius or farenheit

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Big dif

earnest gazelle
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Celcius

unique lilyBOT
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Sinthala#2334 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

proven solstice
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no one talks about computer temps in fahrenheit

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always celsius

knotty eagle
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Anyway, it seems like it's not mounted properly or loose

safe jetty
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Yeah sounds it

earnest gazelle
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How would i fix that

knotty eagle
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I'd get some thermal paste and check it

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Idle temp should be 30-40C

earnest gazelle
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Oh damn

safe jetty
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Turn it off, unmount the heatsink from cpu and check

knotty eagle
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WIth all programs closed and just Windows running, I'd expect 40C ish

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give or take

safe jetty
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60 70 would melt thermal paste

earnest gazelle
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Id rather not mess with anything inside, thats why i gotba prebuilt

knotty eagle
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oh

earnest gazelle
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Can you tell if its mounted wrong by a picture? Or would i have to take it off

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Cus i dont really want to do that

knotty eagle
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You'd have to take it off and see

safe jetty
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Not really.

knotty eagle
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Or check the screws if it has them

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make sure they're tight

earnest gazelle
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Hm

safe jetty
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Actually

knotty eagle
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Or see if a clip came off

safe jetty
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Did you check to see if the power connector to your cooling is in fact connected?

earnest gazelle
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I have no idea

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I dont know much about pcs

safe jetty
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Does the heatsink have a fan on top of it?

earnest gazelle
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Whats a heatsink

knotty eagle
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I mean, if it's a prebuilt

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Not sure I'd touch it because warranty

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I'd message the seller or manufacturer

earnest gazelle
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Tryna do that rn

safe jetty
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Eh maybe but can see just by looking at it if it's a clear sided pc

knotty eagle
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I mean, not if a clip is loose or a mounting screw is loose

earnest gazelle
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Idk

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Theres glass so i can see it

knotty eagle
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TBH, they could have left the plastic on the bottom of the cooler too

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Yes, it's happened before

safe jetty
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Truth lol

earnest gazelle
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Does room temp do anything to temps

safe jetty
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Ok look inside and you should see a large square piece of metal on the upper middle or top of your motherboard

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It can but not unless you are in an oven

earnest gazelle
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Oh lol

safe jetty
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Especially with those levels lol

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It might be a large square fan

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If its a fan, trace it back visually to see if the wire is actually connected. should be a few tiny thin wires.

earnest gazelle
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Its not a fan

safe jetty
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Ok so solid metal with rubber pipes coming out of it?

knotty eagle
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What prebuilt is this?

earnest gazelle
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That thing

knotty eagle
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Oh

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That's an AIO

safe jetty
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Yep

knotty eagle
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Yeah, should NOT be that hot

earnest gazelle
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Hmm

knotty eagle
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I'd wager the pump isn't running at 100% speed like it should be

earnest gazelle
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How do i change that

knotty eagle
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Mmmm, depends on the software

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Usually in the BIOS

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If it's hooked up right

safe jetty
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Retaining screws look fine.

earnest gazelle
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Where in the bios

knotty eagle
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Either

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CPU FAN or AIO PUMP

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Will depend on the motherboard

earnest gazelle
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I see QFan Control

knotty eagle
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that

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Does it list CPU FAN or AIO pump?

earnest gazelle
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CPU Fan and CHA Fan

knotty eagle
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CPU FAN FUll Speed

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Did that change any of the fan speeds?

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Cuz they may have it plugged in wonky

earnest gazelle
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Idk

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Should i go check afterburner

knotty eagle
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If you didn't hear fans go WHOOSH

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that means it's the pump

earnest gazelle
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Whats CHA Fan

safe jetty
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Hold on, what orientation is the pic? straight up and down or sideways?

knotty eagle
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Probably the fan for the cooler

earnest gazelle
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Up and down

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My cpu temp on the bios is 42c

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Should i look at afterburner

knotty eagle
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That's much better

safe jetty
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Alot better.

knotty eagle
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CHA_FAN is for the fan in the back

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The one on the radiator

earnest gazelle
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Should i change that

knotty eagle
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Wouldn't hurt to turn that up a little bit also, just adjust the curve

safe jetty
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Yes. idle it up a bit.

knotty eagle
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basline the curve at say, 30-35%

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fan should be 100% at say, 70C

earnest gazelle
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Afterburner is a little lower but it still says 55

safe jetty
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Is it dropping?

earnest gazelle
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Nope

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Constant 55c on afterburner

knotty eagle
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CHA_FAN speed might be a little low

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What is it at?

earnest gazelle
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Lemme check that

safe jetty
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Yeah raise the cha fan.

knotty eagle
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Also, the coolant is likely warm

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will take time to cool down

earnest gazelle
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Also is there a way to get into bios without turning off the pc

knotty eagle
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No

earnest gazelle
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K

safe jetty
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If its not cooling faster than its taking in heat, gonna have higher internal temps

knotty eagle
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Well, the coolant is probably heat soaked

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will take time to cool down

safe jetty
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Yeah.

earnest gazelle
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What should i put CHA FAN to? Standard silent turbo or full speed or manual

knotty eagle
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Standard

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and show pic of the graph pls

earnest gazelle
knotty eagle
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Then we decide where to put it

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I'd leave it TBH

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Is the back fan the only fan in the case?

safe jetty
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Yeah looks okish.

earnest gazelle
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No

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Theres also 3 in the front

knotty eagle
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Hmmm

safe jetty
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That's wierd.

knotty eagle
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What PC is this please?

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They might just be 3 pins, 100% all the time

earnest gazelle
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Digital Storm Lynx Level 4

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They removed it from their website if ur going to that

knotty eagle
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XD

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There might be a way to control the fans from Windows

earnest gazelle
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๐Ÿ‘€

knotty eagle
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Download and run CPU-Z

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Tell me what the motherboard is

earnest gazelle
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Ok but first what should i put the CHA FAN to? PWM or DC

knotty eagle
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PWM

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Standard

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good to go

earnest gazelle
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Kk

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Setup English or Zip English

knotty eagle
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setup

earnest gazelle
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Ok i downloaded it

knotty eagle
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Run the program and install it

earnest gazelle
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It just opened a notepad

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And has a bunch of stuff

knotty eagle
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waaaaatttt

earnest gazelle
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Yeah

knotty eagle
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Downloads folder

earnest gazelle
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Ok

knotty eagle
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the little computer/cdrom icon that says cpu-z

earnest gazelle
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Yeah

knotty eagle
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It opened Notepad???

earnest gazelle
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No

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It opened the setup

knotty eagle
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Ah

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Yeah, finish the setup

earnest gazelle
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But sfter i did that it opened a notepad

knotty eagle
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OH yeah

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That's the ReadMe file

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LOL!

earnest gazelle
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So is it supposed to be notepad

knotty eagle
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CLose browser, open windows etc, get to desktop

safe jetty
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I was doing a lookie loo and I think this might be the same for all the lynx models

knotty eagle
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is there a little box there asking you to run it?

safe jetty
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The 240mm liquid-cooling radiator for the processor, shown above, is mounted vertically behind the front panel. Two 120mm fans send cool air through it, while a third 120mm fan mounted underneath provides cooling to the 3.5-inch drive bays.

earnest gazelle
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Sorry what do i do?

knotty eagle
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On your desktop

earnest gazelle
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Yeah

knotty eagle
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Purply CPU-Z icon

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open pls

earnest gazelle
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Oh yeah didnt see that

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Ok i see it now

knotty eagle
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Click Mainboard tab

earnest gazelle
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Ok

knotty eagle
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Say manufacturer and model please

earnest gazelle
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. and PRIME H310M-E R2.0

knotty eagle
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perfect

safe jetty
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Yep.

earnest gazelle
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What now

knotty eagle
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hang on

earnest gazelle
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Kk

knotty eagle
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Should be able to download and install this from ASUS, you can use it to access Q-Fan from Windows

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It's AI Suite III

earnest gazelle
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kk installing rn

knotty eagle
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Also

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what program are you using for CPU temp?

earnest gazelle
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MSI Afterburner

knotty eagle
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Mmmm

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That's meant for GPU's

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Not the most accurate for CPU

earnest gazelle
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Oh really

knotty eagle
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wait a minute

earnest gazelle
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What should i use for cpu temps

knotty eagle
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Afterburner is for your graphics card

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not your CPU

earnest gazelle
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Oml

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Is that srsly why

knotty eagle
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LOL!!

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Ye

safe jetty
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Yes lol

earnest gazelle
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Facepalm

knotty eagle
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Well

earnest gazelle
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What should i use for cpu temps

knotty eagle
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HWINFO64

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Is it an AMD GPU?

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by chance

earnest gazelle
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Yeah

knotty eagle
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Ok

earnest gazelle
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AMD Radeon Rx 5700 Xt

knotty eagle
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90C is fine for that then, they run hot

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So that problem resolved

earnest gazelle
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Ooh

knotty eagle
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Max temp for them is 100C

earnest gazelle
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That makes so much more sense now

knotty eagle
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Anyway, if you want CPU fan control, use the AI Suite

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For Graphics, use Afterburner

earnest gazelle
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Ok lit

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Also does ai suite show cpu temps

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Or should i get hwinfo

knotty eagle
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It does yeah

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And it's fairly accurate

earnest gazelle
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It downloaded a zip

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Is it supposed to

knotty eagle
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Yes

earnest gazelle
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How do i use it

knotty eagle
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Gotta right click - Extract

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Then run the EXE inside

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Setup

earnest gazelle
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Setup.exe.manifest?

knotty eagle
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mmmm

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should just be SETUP

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witha PC icon

earnest gazelle
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Oh yeah i see it thanks

earnest gazelle
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@knotty eagle i downloaded it, but it didn't create a desktop shotcut or anything. how do i get to it?

knotty eagle
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SHould be a ZIP file in your downloads folder

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right click - extract

earnest gazelle
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did that and then i did the setup

knotty eagle
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Open it, run the SETUP program

earnest gazelle
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i did that already

knotty eagle
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Click windows icon, ASUS folder, AI Suite III

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Might need to reboot first though if it doesn't work

earnest gazelle
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oh yeah thanks

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my cpu temp is 50 rn

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is that ok?

knotty eagle
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good

earnest gazelle
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ok bet thanks so much

knotty eagle
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YW

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AI Suite should be able to control your fans too

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OPen it

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click three bars on left

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Fan Xpert 4

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It'll have to run a test to check RPM's

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then should be able to adjust the case and CPU cooler fan

honest tendon
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Errr I oopsied

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Think this will still be okay or should buy new thermal paste before I install it

knotty eagle
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Always new thermal paste

honest tendon
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That is new paste

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It just took out the box

knotty eagle
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I know but you smeared it

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Exposing copper

honest tendon
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Feeling like a right twat lol

dusk badger
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Cool idea for manufacturers to use this but you should remove that and apply your own

honest tendon
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Any recommendations on what paste to get?

knotty eagle
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arctic silver mx4

safe jetty
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Didn't realize they were the same company. Thought arctic and arctic silver were different

honest tendon
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there so many different artic mx4's

safe jetty
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they go by size i think on amazon

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4 gram size should do you fine

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bottle of 90% isopropyl and a bunch of q tips when cleaning off your old thermal paste will take it right off easily without fear of it really leaving residue unless you want to go hardcore and lap the heatsink which really wont do much for ya especially with an aio

honest tendon
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as It will arrive tomorrow

safe jetty
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All on you with that one.

earnest gazelle
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@knotty eagle i was playing a game and a little icon popped up in the bottom right of my screen. When i pressed on it, it gave me the option to change the fan settings like in the bios. Is there a way to remove that? So it doesnโ€™t mess me up during a game

fallow glacier
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alright I am ready to finally replace my plain black case fans with some white RGB fans so I can brighten up my desk a bit. I don't want the case to look like a damn disco, just some nice, truly white light.
I have my eyes on the Corsair ML120 Pros, but have heard from a few people that they are noisy. And their pricey.
Can anyone offer any other suggestions? What's your favorite 120mm case fan?

knotty eagle
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The ML's aren't noisy

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But they are pricey

fallow glacier
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I found 2 for $60. So, I may pull the trigger on the ML and give them a shot.

knotty eagle
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They're nice

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I have 4x140mm in my case

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They move a LOT of air

muted moon
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I bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler and the website said that it was compatible with LGA 1200. When I received the cooler, the instructions did not specify how to install the cooler for LGA 1200 type CPUs. In the Q & A section, a person said that they had this issue and were told to contact the company for more parts/instructions. I was wondering if I have to contact Cooler Master or Newegg and if anyone has any advice on the matter.

knotty eagle
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Use the LGA 1151 instructions

muted moon
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Thank you!

knotty eagle
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YW

earnest gazelle
knotty eagle
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CLick the gear icon

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Then the circle i the middle on the far left

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Sorry

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Far RIGHT LOL

earnest gazelle
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I mean from startup

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It always shows up when i restart my pc

knotty eagle
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OH

earnest gazelle
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And it doesnt show up in starup

knotty eagle
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Yeah it's the fan software

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Hmmm,lemme lool

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look

earnest gazelle
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Alot of programs i have dont show up in the startup menu for some reason

knotty eagle
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I don't honestly know

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I just let mine run at startup

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I checked settings and didn't anything for startup

earnest gazelle
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Dang thats annoying

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You remove it everytime you restart?

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@knotty eagle i found out how to remove it. I right clicked the up arrow on the windows taskbar, right clicked the fan thing and pressed startup

knotty eagle
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On nice!

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No, I just leave it on all the time

marble phoenix
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@knotty eagle hello again

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Do you have any recommendations for cpu cooler?

knotty eagle
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What cpu?

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Hello??

marble phoenix
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5600x

knotty eagle
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Ah

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Mmmm

knotty eagle
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Would probably work yeah

marble phoenix
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Thanks

knotty eagle
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YW. Definitely better than the stock hunk of aluminum

knotty eagle
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Like that

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Exhaust

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pushing out the top

honest tendon
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okay ty

knotty eagle
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Air comes in the front, out the top

honest tendon
knotty eagle
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Eh

honest tendon
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says to use the fans as an intake but I have also seen alot of people saying to exhaust

knotty eagle
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Exhaust is fine

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Unless your case has poor airflow

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Mine is exhaust, still super cold

knotty eagle
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Yeah, should be OK

honest tendon
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Thank you

knotty eagle
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YW

dire spade
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should i get Arctic liquid freezer ii 280 or 380? i donโ€™t get whatโ€™s the difference between them

knotty eagle
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280 = 2x140mm fans. 360mm = 3x120mm fans

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Depends if you hae the space or not

dire spade
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alright

static badge
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ive never swaped them before but the stock fans on my 2080ti went out

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just looking for help with the order or any better ideas i cant seem to find an aio or anything

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any help would be much appreciated

knotty eagle
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That's actually a good one

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There's another brand too

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Arctic Cool or something?

static badge
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ive heard of it before

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basically what i wanted to know if i got that cooler just order any 120mm fan?

knotty eagle
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yes

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2 of them

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Ah, there it is

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Accelero

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Arctic Accelero

static badge
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ok thats what i was looking for the (8 fan clips: 4pcs for 12025, 4pcs for 12013) threw me off im still fairly new to the custom coolers and stuff

knotty eagle
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This comes with fans

static badge
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ahh yes i did see that somewhere not super apealing but lol

knotty eagle
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$70

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Yeah, just throwing it out there

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It's good too

static badge
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wow not a bad deal

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that will work with a 2080ti black?

knotty eagle
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It just lists RTX 2080 Super/TI

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Probably reference style designs. SO it should work with EVGA

static badge
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so i would guess it would work

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so i should just go ahead and grab that one

knotty eagle
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EIther or would work, your preference

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if the Arctic doesn't look right, add your own fans to the Raijin

static badge
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ok i appreciate that man tyvm ๐Ÿ™‚

knotty eagle
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YW

static badge
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@knotty eagle i went with the arctic seems like the best option for me atm

knotty eagle
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Sweet!

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Definitely the most wallet friendly

static badge
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most definitely

vapid mountain
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whats a good cooler for a ryzen threadripper pro?

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aside from the noctua ones

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i was thinking of the dark rock pro tr4

dawn hawk
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custom loop will be the best

twin urchin
stray pecan
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in peoples opinions, is a dark rock 4 enough to apply an oc to a 5600x and keep it within 60~75c range?

twin urchin
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yes

safe star
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@stray pecan yes

stray pecan
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thx

knotty eagle
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Oh yeah, that's way more than enough. It's also a BIG cooler so keep that in mind for your build

upper sluice
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Into my mb which only has 4

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Pin

low pumice
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That's 5v argb you're trying to plug into 12v rgb..?

upper sluice
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I suck at this stuff what does that mean

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To I need a adapter

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@low pumice

low pumice
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3 pin is 5v aRGB, 4 pin is 12v RGB

upper sluice
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So if my mb doesnโ€™t have any 3 pin

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Do I buy adapter

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Or is that not a thing

low pumice
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It's weird

upper sluice
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Will I lose the argb?

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I can change fan color

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From this

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But I do t want to have to take of back every time

knotty eagle
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You have to use the controller

upper sluice
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Ooof

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Thereโ€™s not that many options

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The only color I can get solid is blue

knotty eagle
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Yeah, there are two RGB specifications

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aRGB is 5 v and 3 pin. RGB is 12v and 4 pin

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Kinda confusing because it's not explained well anywhere

upper sluice
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I can get any color to do this

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The 3 pins Iโ€™m seeing for adapters are ... not .. .

knotty eagle
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not what?

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It's not just a pin taht needs to fit, it's voltage too

twilit abyss
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i dont think 4 pin to 3 pins exist

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do they?

knotty eagle
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Mmm, kinda doubt because of the voltage conversion

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12 volt vs 5 volt

upper sluice
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Wait

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Will es other of these be able to go into mb

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They came out of the controller

knotty eagle
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No

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Controller only

upper sluice
knotty eagle
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that system you have isn't compatible with your motherboard

trail void
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i mixed thermal pastes help

twin urchin
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how did they taste

honest tendon
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Will the paste spread once I apply the cooler

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Or need more paste to cover the edges

twin urchin
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it will spread

knotty eagle
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Did you tape that off and do it?

twin urchin
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normally you only need a small drop

knotty eagle
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hoenstly, just a pea sized drop in the middle and install

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no need to get all fancy

low pumice
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damn that's an interesting application

honest tendon
low pumice
#

what the

knotty eagle
#

Huh

#

never seen that before

honest tendon
#

Part of this kit

low pumice
#

it's interesting to say the least

topaz blaze
#

kind of seems like too much paste tbh

honest tendon
#

It's a extremely thin layer

vivid citrus
#

Umm... interesting lol

#

I am more of a dot the edges man, although to be fair many been working w server boards recently

#

And nt-h2 for life

vapid mountain
#

my problem now is

#

my cpu is strx4 and not tr4

#

but i heard noctua tr4 coolers will work on strx4 but idk about dark rock pro tr4s

marsh bobcat
#

Can someone with high power message me I have a question

low pumice
#

wat

marsh bobcat
#

I have a cooler I do not need anymore.

dawn hawk
#

ebay

#

inb4 TOS

marsh bobcat
#

Ive never used ebay before

#

Anything else I could try?

dawn hawk
#

craigslist if ur ok with maybe getting shot

marsh bobcat
#

Lol oh nooo

#

I shall look into Ebay

#

Thanks

dawn hawk
#

as long as u have a gun too there is no problem

marsh bobcat
#

I'll take my RPG I should be ok

proper sky
#

hey guys, i'm planing to replace an aio's fans with the Lian Uni fans but i dont know what 360 is going to be my sacrifice (am4 btw and my budget for an aio is $400 tops), any recommendations?

Going to sleep rn, sorry if i dont reply for 10 hours or so.

dawn hawk
#

i like the EK aio

crude salmon
#

How long should an AIO last?

twilit abyss
#

4-7 yrs i think

#

also depends on which ario

#

*aio

granite patrol
#

what would be the best entire water cooling kit i could get for under 300$

coarse herald
#

So question i ha e the stock and cooler but my fans a blowing around 50% even when idle, should I mess with the fan curve or is it cuz the stock cooler runs warmer than 3rd party coolers?

#

Amd cooler*

knotty eagle
#

Spire, the all metal one?

#

if so, it will run hotter than other coolers

coarse herald
#

It's the stealth cooler

#

Will it run hot that it keeps fans around 50% when idle

knotty eagle
#

Probably, yes

#

That's fairly typical

#

You can adjust the fan curve if you want

#

Just keep an eye on temps

coarse herald
#

Okay I guess i know my next upgrade

knotty eagle
#

5600x?

coarse herald
#

Si

knotty eagle
#

It's kinda funky looking but it's fairly cheap and works well

coarse herald
#

How do I monitor temps outside of bios? My gpu shows the temp in the task manager but cpu doesn't

#

What software if good for that

knotty eagle
#

Ryzen Master

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or HWINFO64

coarse herald
#

Gotcha

#

Also that cooler is currently unavailable

coarse herald
#

And I've been recommended the scythe something or something else in here before

knotty eagle
#

Yeah that's kind of expensive though

#

but still a great cooler

coarse herald
#

50 bucks

knotty eagle
#

If that is affordable to you, highly recommended

#

Scythe Mugen B?

coarse herald
#

Yeah

knotty eagle
#

Good stuff

#

If you can afford it, highly recommend

lean rose
#

Anyone using air cooling with 5900x? What's best and "safe" AIO or air cooling for new Ryzen series?

dusk loom
#

i know this seems stupid but wwhat does the tdp on a cpu cooler mean?

#

It's the cpu tdp its designed to cool right

#

Not the power it sucks

knotty eagle
#

Correct

dusk loom
#

ok

#

thanks

#

i was planning on getting the DeepCool GAMMAX 400 Pro

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for my cpu

#

what do you guys think of it

#

an yopinions form someone ho already bought it?

#

It has a very compelling price

knotty eagle
#

FOr what CPU?

dusk loom
#

and from what i have seen its as good (if not better) than the hyper 212

knotty eagle
#

Better than 212 yes

dusk loom
knotty eagle
#

This one also good and looks better

#

It is a bit overkill but eh

#

It's only $30

dusk loom
#

It is there for upgradability

dusk loom
#

and overclocking

#

I like overclocking

#

And my cpu gets quite hot at times

knotty eagle
#

The ID cooling looks better and is same price

#

Either would be great

swift pumice
dusk loom
#

and if they are its for an absolutely absurd price

knotty eagle
#

Ah

#

Gotcha

dusk loom
#

welp

#

that was the last confirmation i needed

#

like

#

at night

#

with ambient temps at around 28 degrees

#

I ran prime95 small ftts for 20 minutes

knotty eagle
#

oof

#

that's brutal

dusk loom
#

and it got up to 100 degrees

knotty eagle
#

And not a realistic load

dusk loom
#

i know, but i need prime95 for stability testing

knotty eagle
#

Something like cinebench is a better test for real world scenarios

dusk loom
#

and on blender openbenchmark its almost as bad

#

90-95 degrees

knotty eagle
#

Ye

#

need new cooler

dusk loom
#

i ill also buy a better case

#

since the one im using it more of a "compact" styled case

#

and it cant fit the gammax 400

#

or any cooler basically

#

I was thinking of a case made by a very famous brand here

knotty eagle
#

Hmmmm

dusk loom
#

the model is a "Pichau Gadit X"

#

what do you think?

unique lilyBOT
#
MrBlyat#1066 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dusk loom
#

again, prices are crap in S.A

knotty eagle
#

what about

dusk loom
#

nope

#

told you

#

I cant find noctua

#

anywhere

knotty eagle
#

ah

dusk loom
#

i already settled on the gammax 400 pro

knotty eagle
#

Cryorig?

dusk loom
#

I dont really care about noise

knotty eagle
#

Cooler Master?

dusk loom
dusk loom
#

but the gammax 400 pro > hyper 212

knotty eagle
#

Looks funny but 130 watt TDP

dusk loom
#

It is a little bit more noisy but

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gammax 400 pro is 180W tdp

#

Noise does not bother me at all

#

In fact, I set my cpu fans to Full Speed all the time

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

knotty eagle
#

That cooler master one has good reviews

dusk loom
#

Eh

#

Lower tdp

#

If im gonna buy a cooler i want it to bee extremely overkill

knotty eagle
#

well yeah but....the 1600AF will get nowhere near that

dusk loom
#

that way i can use it on a next build

coarse herald
#

Mr boyar wants an upgrade path

#

Blyat*

knotty eagle
#

I know

#

but even my 3700x overclocked has only hit 118

dusk loom
#

anyways

#

i have settled on the cooler

#

thanks for the insight

knotty eagle
#

YW

#

Just trying to avoid you getting a new case LOL

dusk loom
#

meh

#

when i say it was compact style i mean it was a small sized mATX case

#

so

#

the max cpu cooler size is if im not mistaken 14,7mm

brave wren
#

hey

#

how is the corsair h100i rgb pro xt for cooling

knotty eagle
#

Good

#

H115 slightly better

brave wren
#

ahh i see i have the h100i rgb pro xt with the 240 mm rad on a ryzen 7 2700x

knotty eagle
#

Ya, that's just fine

brave wren
#

perfect

dusk loom
#

quick question

#

about how many power does a 180W TDP cpu cooler suck

knotty eagle
#

Only what the fan draws

#

usually 0.1-0.5 amps

dusk loom
#

which wouldb e equivalent to how many Watts

knotty eagle
#

Like, 1-6 watts

#

BUt it has no effect on the TDP

#

TDP = Thermal Dissipative Power

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NOt power draw

#

Not power use

#

Just how much heat it can handle

dusk loom
#

Just asking

knotty eagle
#

kk

low pumice
#

also, a 180w tdp like ice giant will pull vastly different power than a Noctua cooler

knotty eagle
#

Ye, depends on fans

#

oh, does the Ice giant use a thermoelectric plate?

gray prairie
#

whats a good aio for a 1500$ build with a ryzen 5 3600

knotty eagle
#

H115i/H100i/EK 240mm

low pumice
#

Freezer ii 240mm/280mm

gray prairie
#

alright thank you

swift pumice
#

push is better then pull right on an aio?

knotty eagle
#

Yes

coarse herald
#

the 280 be in stock on amazon again thats pretty pog might hold out and do an io top mount and put the fans i bought from artic and do a push and pull

#

well assuming you can mount fans on both sides

knotty eagle
#

Push/pull with an AIO doesn't do much TBH

#

Just push

coarse herald
#

yeah but i have the fans already and it comes with some so why not

#

i probably wont though and use what i bought to keep them all the same

knotty eagle
#

Because you want air to flow through the radiator. A fan on the opposite side is more of a wall than flow

coarse herald
#

ahh

#

me goes to gamernuxus to watch the review of it

knotty eagle
#

Good idea!

coarse herald
#

yeah i may return the two 140s i bought cuz at the cost of an air cooler and the fans i ordered its only 30 bucks more for the aio

#

then again air coolers can live longer

knotty eagle
#

Well, technically yeah but AIO should last 6-7+ years

coarse herald
#

true ill have to do the brain cranks and thonk on it

dusk loom
#

does anyone here with a deepcool gammax 400 / 400 Pro know if it makes any noise

fickle ice
#

best affordable rgb fans?

#

but not really budget

#

mid range?

light fog
#

AIO fluid can permeate out though.

#

Slowly

verbal stag
#

5600x any cpu coolers ?

twin urchin
#

lots!

#

gammaxx 400/Mugen5/shadow rock 3/hyper212/arctic e-sports duo

#

that weird orb shaped one too

knotty eagle
#

Pls no Hyper212

#

Gammax better

#

As well as the ID Cooling version

twilit abyss
#

gammax gt BK best looking aircooler

#

jus sayin

keen wagon
#

yo anyone knows the best cooler for ryzen 5 3600

maiden delta
#

Stock cooler is fine for most cases

keen wagon
#

there really loud in my opinion

knotty eagle
#

They are loud

#

Gammax 400

keen wagon
#

is that a good cooler?

keen wagon
#

ok thank you alot

knotty eagle
#

Or an AMD Wraith Prism with heatpipes

#

Also good, RGB too

keen wagon
#

ok ill look at them all

knotty eagle
#

$30-$40

keen wagon
#

damn now its going to be hard to choose lol

maiden delta
#

Can also get a wraith prism for less on ebay from somebody who didn't use theirs

knotty eagle
#

That too

keen wagon
#

ah ok

knotty eagle
#

I still have mine tho

#

backup in case AIO goes poop

keen wagon
#

i have the level 20 mt argb thermaltake case

knotty eagle
#

noctua's are fantastic but also pricey

keen wagon
#

ya i saw there coolers

#

like 80 bucks

#

i think i like the Gammax 400

#

would it fit in this

#

cant send pics

knotty eagle
#

I looked up the ase

#

*case

#

Should fit

keen wagon
#

level 20 mt argb thermaltake case

knotty eagle
#

"CPU cooler height limitation:
170mm"

#

GAMMAX only 120mm

#

so it'll fit

keen wagon
#

ok thats good

#

thank you alot

knotty eagle
#

135mm

#

sorry, it'll still fit

#

YW

knotty eagle
#

Yeah, just keep in mind the aRGB vs RGB though

#

Check your motherboard first

twilit abyss
#

if you want argb they have an argb model too

keen wagon
#

hmm

#

i have a $300 motherboard notstonks

knotty eagle
#

For the 3600?

#

Mmmmm

keen wagon
#

again not stonks

#

i was quickly getting my parts

knotty eagle
#

Yeah, I get it

#

Just seems overkill lol

keen wagon
#

ya lol

#

ill find it hold on

knotty eagle
#

It's either Strix or Aorus lol

low pumice
#

If it's Unify it'd be pog

low pumice
#

Rip

#

Toasty VRMs

keen wagon
#

@knotty eagle

knotty eagle
#

Mr1111 is right

keen wagon
#

vrms?

knotty eagle
#

Yeah they get a bit warm

low pumice
#

Voltage regulation modules

knotty eagle
#

But with a 3600 it's not really a big issue

low pumice
#

But should be fine for 3600

keen wagon
#

ahhh ok

#

good

low pumice
#

It's definitely not a board worth 300$

knotty eagle
#

Like, 3900/5900 might be an issue

keen wagon
low pumice
#

3900/5900 WILL have an issue if you OC

keen wagon
#

but does it have a good upgrade path

low pumice
#

Debauer vrm testing was with 3900x

knotty eagle
#

5000 series is the end of the line for AM4 tho

#

Next socket will be AM5

keen wagon
#

right....

#

but its not that bad right.....

knotty eagle
#

Nah

keen wagon
#

ok good

#

cause i dont wanna start regretting my life chooses lol

terse bluff
#

When putting AIO in front of case do I put the fans on the AIO first or put them on case first?

knotty eagle
#

AIO first

terse bluff
#

AIO sounds easier imo but idk if itโ€™s case specific

#

Thanks

knotty eagle
#

Easier that way

terse bluff
#

I have nzxt h150i

#

I donโ€™t think I can take front panel off

#

I just realized this

#

Yikes KEKW

brazen terrace
#

wow

terse bluff
#

Welp ooof

twilit abyss
#

drummel time?

twilit abyss
#

hol up that short's spelled dremel?

#

damn

swift pumice
#

my aio is making some water splash noises. should i be worried its been only running for 2 months with tubes up. or should i flip the pc on its side bc i changed my aio to push the other day and i didnt hear it maybe some air bubbles got stuck in the pump.

crude salmon
#

I've noticed that on some motherboards with some AIOs the pump or more specifically where the tubes connect to the pump they sometimes block the first RAM slot which I know is very often fine when you only have two sticks but how can I assure that I get a MOBO that it doesn't happen on or can I prevent it by mounting the pump in a way that those tubes are on the left side rather than the right side where the RAM slots are? Sorry if this is quite a stupid question, planning to get my first AIO in the near future and wanna know everything I need to know

low pumice
#

@crude salmon for top aio mount (which you should do), usually you'd have pipes come out the left anyways

crude salmon
#

Yeah I'm planning to mount it at the top

low pumice
#

@swift pumice You seen the GN vid on aio tubing orientation yet?

crude salmon
#

But I'm noticing most people mount it on the right

#

Not even most people

#

All people

#

So I'm wondering if it's possible

#

I'm not talking about where the tubes connect to the radiator, I rather mean where the tubes connect to the pump

swift pumice
#

gn was to long

low pumice
#

because this can cause noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk

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crude salmon
#

With this specific cooler it's fine but I've noticed that with the NZXT Z63 and Z73 most motherboards don't leave enough clearance for the first slot

low pumice
#

it all really depends on the specific aio tbh

crude salmon
#

Yeah so I'm just wondering if there's a way around that

swift pumice
crude salmon
#

So it's possible to mount it in different ways for example with the tubes at the bottom or to the left of the pump?

low pumice
#

From Z73 manual for the mounting bracket, looks like you can flip it around to be left or right

crude salmon
#

Where do you see that in that picture? Also will it be able to be mountain both ways on an intel LGA 1200 socket too?

low pumice
#

only guarantee is to go air cooling :D

crude salmon
#

Yeah for a while I thought I'll just do that but all of a sudden I really wanna get an AIO lmao

low pumice
#

@crude salmon how could you resist a NH-U12a though

#

great performance

#

godly reliability

crude salmon
#

I know but the looks of fancy AIOs like the Z67 or Z73

twilit abyss
#

bottom looks like an itx board

crude salmon
#

They're both ATX

twilit abyss
#

dunno if the spacing between cpu and ram might be tigher on itx boards or smth

#

is one ryzen and one intel?

#

because i feel like that spacing would be a standardised thing between catagories

crude salmon
#

I might just go with the good ol' reliable air cooler but I kinda want an AIO all of a sudden

crude salmon
twilit abyss
#

hmmm

#

what do you want the aio for?

#

cause if its looks, theres some really nice lookin air coolers out there

#

gammax gt BK being one of them

#

but that can be a bit small for some cpu's

crude salmon
#

Well it's not just the looks, looks is a part of it but it's also for the cooling capabilities and because I have a 10600K I'll correct my wrongs from a few months ago and actually get a Z490 and will probably do some overclocking

#

I'm also really interested in trying liquid cooling

crude salmon
#

@twilit abyss does that make sense or should I stick to an air cooler?

low pumice
#

I mean

#

good air cooler like d15/u12a have performance like average 240mm aios

twilit abyss
#

^

crude salmon
#

Well I'm planning to go for a 360, and I'll keep it for at least the next CPU I get too

#

I have considered the U12A or Mugen 5

#

Still am

low pumice
#

then grab a u12a :P

#

free new mounting brackets

#
crude salmon
#

Idk I'm just really into AIO all of a sudden

low pumice
#

I was

#

and now I'm back into U12a

#

it's just so good

crude salmon
#

If it's not the right call I'll get over it

low pumice
#

compatibility, reliability, upgradability

crude salmon
#

So what causes AIOs to be so popular, especially on youtube, looks?

#

If you can get something like the U12A that is way cheaper

low pumice
#

aesthetics

#

especially youtube

crude salmon
#

Well, I guess I'll either get over my sudden urge for an AIO or I'll give in to it, I'll see

#

But in terms of air cooling, Mugen 5 and U12A are about the same performance?

low pumice
#

u12a over mugen 5 rev b

#

u12a is more like a d15 in terms of performance

crude salmon
#

Alright, then could the Mugen 5 be enough for light to medium overclocking with a 10600K?

#

Just wondering because the U12A is quite pricy

low pumice
#

but NOCTUA

#

yea

crude salmon
#

Lol hell yeah noctua haha

#

Well, I guess I'll see what my budget will end up looking like and what my gut wants and reach a decision

#

Thank you for all the help!

swift pumice
#

now the air is back in the rad

rough gorge
azure crown
#

no

twilit abyss
#

no

terse bluff
#

can minimal rattling sounds be ok in AIO? I assume its air bubbles but idk if its ok or not

#

idk if its rattling per say, but def a small sound every once and a while

orchid breach
#

I buying some fans, Iโ€™m debating between asiahorse and stella. Which ones do yโ€™all recommend?

swift pumice
#

Stellas make me vomit

#

Bad software and 20$ shipping

#

Doesnโ€™t matter how many leds u have if u canโ€™t control them

restive bloom
#

So I was planning on getting a liquid freezer ii 360 for my build, but they are sold out everywhere. What would be another good option?

knotty eagle
#

EK 240mm

low pumice
#

EK-AIO

#

Lian Li Galahad

swift pumice
#

heres a video on how to fix it

dusk loom
#

JEEZ

#

JUST INSTALLED MY NEW GAMMAX 400 PRO

#

LOL

#

65 CELISIUS ON PRIME95

topaz blaze
#

I have a MSI RTX2070 Super GPU and I am trying to find a liquid cooling block

#

can anyone point me in the right direction???

twin urchin
#

it is 99% chance not a wise use of money. of there even is one

plain raven
#

If Im wanting 3 more fans but mobo only has 1 spare header, do you recommend a splitter or hub?

twin urchin
#

splitter

hollow vector
#

im looking for some good 5V 3-Pin argb 120mm fans that are compatible with MSI Mystic Light for my case i need better ones the ones i have dont push enough air i need 5 of them, my current fans are GIM kb-11s, does any body have good suggestions. i would like to stay in the $60 range (noise doesnt bother me much i always use a headset)

wraith rose
swift pumice
#

lmao

dusk loom
#

jeez

#

i switched my fans from full speed and added in a fan curve

#

wow

#

this feels so good

#

i can barely hear anything

gleaming raft
#

i have a weird argb question
so i'm using cooler masters argb solution and i'm wondering, can you split an argb splitter cable with another splitter cable connected to one of the ends ?

swift pumice
#

i have the best fan curve

earnest gazelle
#

All my fans are at top speed but idle my cpu is 50-60 degrees. Is that bad

knotty eagle
#

Load temp more important than idle

earnest gazelle
#

Ik but im just a little worried

#

Its usually 40

#

But this morning its been significantly higher

knotty eagle
#

Task Managher

#

Check useage

earnest gazelle
#

Nothing is being used

#

Except for task manager ofc

knotty eagle
#

There's nothing using CPU?

earnest gazelle
#

Mo

#

No*

knotty eagle
#

In that case, turn fans down see if temp goes down

earnest gazelle
#

I turned em down. Now its sitting around 44

knotty eagle
#

That indicates your case either has poor flow OR the fans aren't configured properly

earnest gazelle
#

Hmm

#

Its on my desk

#

42 at full speed

lilac flame
#

Hey guys (And vintageRacer79, good to see you here too :) ) - my mobo and CPU bit the dust yesterday, so I'm getting some new gear, and wanted to ask what the pitfalls are for a pre-assembled (AIO) water cooling - it seems like it's too good to be true that it's really that much better than fans, so wanted to ask you guys

low pumice
#

It's not "that much better"

#

it's also a lot more expensive

lilac flame
#

The way I seem to understand is that it's better for sound (I'm doing a lot more recording from home now), and keeps the baseline temperature lower as opposed to being triggered as a fan/HS, but let me know if I'm wrong in that

knotty eagle
#

There are benefits to AIO's: heat goes directly out of the case, takes up less room than big CPU coolers, takes longer to heat saturate (in some cases), but unless you get a good one a good air CPU cooler can work just as well as an AIO.

stuck crystal
#

Noctua NH-D15 I think it is >= Most AIO Water Cooling

knotty eagle
#

Also huge though

stuck crystal
#

Quite true, but in my opinion after having 2 closed AIO cooler pumps fail within months of each other in a row (same system) I decided I'd much rather be able to SEE the failure.

low pumice
#

@lilac flame by the way, coolers should be compared with noise normalized performance, so noise will be basically the same

knotty eagle
#

What AIO did you get that failed within 2 months?

lilac flame
#

I had a monster noctua fan in my last rig - it worked but yeah it was a biggin

knotty eagle
#

Seems like a spoop AIO to me

lilac flame
low pumice
#

keep in mind, the Fuma 2 sells for 60$, while like a EK-AIO 240mm sells for what, 120$?

#

This is noise normalized to 35dBA

stuck crystal
#

It was a while back I'd have to check but yeah, it was super annoying, first one was a "No problem we'll send you another." the second time around it was "Okay send us that one back and we'll send you a new one." then when that failed I decided I didn't want to have the system down for another month waiting for shipping.

knotty eagle
#

Thermaltake or something?

#

There were some really bad AIO's out there

lilac flame
low pumice
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Freezer ii is the only real good price to performance AIO, so that remains an option, otherwise, air cooling just offers so much more performance per dollar

knotty eagle
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The Liqtechs are notoriously terrible

low pumice
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@lilac flame MSI's AIOs are non-asetech pumps and fall behind asetech designs like the NZXT X62/X72 from other testing

stuck crystal
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Looks like it was around 2012ish

knotty eagle
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AIO's look so clean though

low pumice
lilac flame
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Haha I think I'm the only audio engineer that doesn't care about what the innards look like so long as I can easily access it

low pumice
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the 360mm aio falling behind 240mm aios is somewhat embarrassing

lilac flame
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Wow the noctua does better? Where is this chart, I seem to be googling the wrong terms

stuck crystal
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Which means this one Noctua fan has lasted me since then through multiple system rebuilds (also had to buy a mounting kit from Noctua to put it in my current system)

low pumice
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@lilac flame Generally, if I'm looking for cooler testing, I check if Gamers Nexus did a review on them yet, if not, I just google and look for either TPU, Tom's hardware, Kitguru, or Anandtech

lilac flame
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Tom's hardware is a usual for me, but I feel like their stuff is outdated half the time

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Well, that's exaggerated, but still

low pumice
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they do test with like 6700k iirc, which is a bit old, but numbers are numbers

lilac flame
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That's awesome though, I'll check these out, Thank you!

low pumice
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TPU is techpowerup

lilac flame
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Ok cool, I'll take a look

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Thank you guys, this is really helpful! Have an awesome rest of your day!

livid mirage
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anyone know any good budget rgb case fans

cursive ingot