#old-cooling | Newegg | Page 46

cyan vessel Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM

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yea

calm umbra Sep 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i want to know if my cooler is compatible with the case/motherboard since i just ordered it and i'm shaking for some reason

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my mother board is ASRock b450M hdv r4.0
my case is Gamemax expedition

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motherboard is kinda cheap

low pumice Sep 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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The case sounds cheaper :p

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Anyways what cooler

calm umbra Sep 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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lmao ikr

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oh my bad

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forgot to tell

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nzxt kraken x53

low pumice Sep 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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What size rad

calm umbra Sep 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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240

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it'll fit in the case for sure

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but will the rgb n things work with the motherboard?

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do i need to buy a pwm y splitter?

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i'm confused

low pumice Sep 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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How many other fans

calm umbra Sep 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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i have a single fan in the case

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nothing more nothing less

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it's in the rear i believe

low pumice Sep 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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2 cpu fan headers

calm umbra Sep 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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so i have to buy a Y splitter

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?

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i'm sorry but i'm a little bit confused

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will i have to buy a Y splitter or not

normal cipher Sep 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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@calm umbra you only need the one 4 pin pwm slot for the AIO. that should power the rgb as well, it doesnt say anything about that needing a rgb header. worst case scenario you can buy a splitter just to be safe for like an extra $5.

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i would honestly get one anyways, having just 1 case fan really hurts your airflow. the best combo is 2 fans, and from there on it is diminishing returns

karmic root Sep 5, 2020, 4:24 AM

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i have a laptop with a gtx 1050 and an i7 8700hq and i have had it for 4 years should i replace the thermal paste because my cpu runs at 90 to 100 degrees normally

topaz blaze Sep 5, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Yeah you probably should. My old laptop same specs wasn’t that bad

karmic root Sep 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ok because it also sounds like a jet engine

topaz blaze Sep 5, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Yeah then

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Clean all dust too

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And when you take off old paste make sure to use rubbing alcohol

karmic raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Would a wraith prism cooler be enough to cool a 3900xt da_heck

dull basin Sep 5, 2020, 5:03 AM

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if you have the budget for a 3900xt get an aio

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or a really beefy air cooler

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@karmic raven

karmic raven Sep 5, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Alright thks

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Better to b safe ay

final junco Sep 5, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Doing my first build. I bought a Cooler Master liquid cooler for my AMD Ryzen 7, 3700X 8 core. Should I be worried about leaks and install the fan that came with it? I do some gaming nothing more. Not sure which way to go

calm umbra Sep 5, 2020, 7:38 AM

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@calm umbra you only need the one 4 pin pwm slot for the AIO. that should power the rgb as well, it doesnt say anything about that needing a rgb header. worst case scenario you can buy a splitter just to be safe for like an extra $5.
@ WolffeDemon#0664 tysm

obtuse apex Sep 5, 2020, 7:38 AM

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im getting a 3970x what should i use to cool it? not really interested in a custom loop

scenic pagoda Sep 5, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Personally I have a very nice direct air setup on my 1080ti and it stays ice cold, but few cases have a good layout for that anymore...

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I want to get a 3090 but im afraid it won't fit in my case 😦

calm umbra Sep 5, 2020, 9:42 AM

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@calm umbra you only need the one 4 pin pwm slot for the AIO. that should power the rgb as well, it doesnt say anything about that needing a rgb header. worst case scenario you can buy a splitter just to be safe for like an extra $5.
@normal cipher also, my main problem is that i have 1 cpu fan connector

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what do i do

normal cipher Sep 5, 2020, 4:57 PM

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okay so, with your motherboard that "cpu fan connector" doubles as a connector for a pump for an AIO.

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im saying you should be able to just plug your AIO into that cpu fan connector and be just peachy

prime portal Sep 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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So I'm looking to purchase either an i7-9700k or an i5-9600k, with an atx motherboard, but im not sure how to cool it whether it be an AIO or air cooling, i have to transport my pc roughly one mile every week between houses and im not sure if that would be extremely risky with an AIO as im not familiar with any water cooling, any suggestions?

dry wren Sep 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I need best PVM fan kit. I guess 3 fan is enough. May be RGB. PLEASE suggest thank you!

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Anything against DEEPCOOL RF120M(3 in 1) Ultra Quiet intelligent PWM Fan 6 high brightness RGB LED Lights Motherboard Sync Multiple Control Modes

dull basin Sep 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@prime portal if u are getting the i5 definitely don't get an AIO as you dont need an AIO to cool an i5. Something like a Hyper 212 evo or a Dark Rock Pro will work just fine with the i5. If you are getting an i7, getting an AIO is more acceptable.

low pumice Sep 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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212evo and drp4 are completely different tiers of coolers :P

stable forge Sep 6, 2020, 1:42 AM

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anyone in here?

frosty latch Sep 6, 2020, 2:05 AM

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@stable forge What’s up

keen pond Sep 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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should I get the deepcool gammax 400 v2? or the id cooling se-224-xt basic? I plan to do a mild OC for my r5 3600 and the stock cooler is loud

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the deepcool has a blue fan, the se-224 has a cleaner look, they seem to be close in performance

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delidded 7700k OC hits 75C on the se224

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6850K 4.3ghz OC hits 48C (+22 ambient, so 70C) se224

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8700k OC prime95 hits 80C se224

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3960x OC hits 69C (nice) gammax 400

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5930k OC hits 58C (+22 ambient, so 80C) gammax 400

frosty latch Sep 6, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I'm torn between the NZXT Kraken X63 and X73. The case I planned on getting doesn't support a 360mm top radiator, but I'm willing to buy a different (and currently more expensive) case if there's a real performance difference. Obviously, the X73 has a bigger radiator, but the X63 has larger fans (140 instead of 120mm) and much higher CFM (98 compared to 73 on the X73), apparently to compensate for the smaller radiator. So what's the word? Is there a real performance difference between the two?

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 12:01 AM

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How long are the tubes on that Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R

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Cause the ones on that H150i RGB PRO XT are 380mm long

magic sparrow Sep 7, 2020, 1:00 AM

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@frosty latch noise normalized perf is the same between the two. So go by price or looks.

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As usage surface area is just about the same

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Thanks!

magic sparrow Sep 7, 2020, 1:02 AM

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If you replace the fans with Noctua (and probs some others, just haven't been tested), x63 will have better noise normalized

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While x73 has more raw perf (like few degrees difference)

wild pumice Sep 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Hello i bought a evga 240mm cooler i got everything connected as many videos have shown but this motherboard cable I’m having trouble finding where this goes

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Darn i can’t post a picture but yeah

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:22 AM

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.-.

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Is.. no one gonna answer my question...? Lol

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ask google

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he prolly knows

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:24 AM

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@wild pumice Motherboard cable? Does the cooler have RGB?

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Could also connect to the fan header

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@proper fulcrum I don’t have any experience with that cooler, sorry :/

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I'm wanting to know if a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R would have long enough tubes if I mounted its radiator with the tubes down in a Lian Li Lancool II case

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:27 AM

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dont mount the tubes down, mount the rad at the top

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will look much better

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:27 AM

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^

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Also heat rises so it’ll help keep your temps within the case down

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:27 AM

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gonna be honest tho, from the pics of the cooler, im gonna have to say no, the tubes wont reach

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or they might just barely reach

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:28 AM

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If you mount the cooler downward you’ll be fighting against the natural movement of heat

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I meant mount it with the tubes down on the front lol

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Well.. if I got their 360mm AIO

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeah, we know, but were saying it doesnt matter because top mounting it is just better

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I can mount a 240, cause my case can support one

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:33 AM

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oh whoops

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for some reason i thought you said the o11d

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i saw lian li and kinda just skipped around the rest

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anyway

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what cpu are you trying to cool?

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Well I thought I heard GN say intake was better.. but apparently I was wrong

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A Ryzen 5 3600

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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a 240mm rad is plenty for that

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also yes, rad as intake is better for cpu temps

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but dont forget about the rest of your system

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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So I DID hear GN right

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Yeah Ik

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I plan on cooling a Ryzen 7 3700x with a 280 rad, the 240 will definitely be enough

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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top exhaust cpu cooler allows the rest of the system to get cooler air, and your 65w tdp cpu can deal with slightly warmer air

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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So just get a 240mm

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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yeah, even a 120mm rad is enough for the 3600

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im just assuming this is for looks, because the stock cooler is totally fine from a usability standpoint

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Ok

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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If you’re overclocking you’ll probably want an aftermarket cooler, if only for the sake of noise

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Well, I'm wanting a good AIO for when I eventually overclock my CPU

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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ahh

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Which is why I was looking at a 360

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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well thats fine, but dont expect much out of ryzen

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you could probably get an extra 200mhz boost out of it if your lucky

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to really oc zen 2 you need to go sub 0

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like to get past 5ghz

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Oh no, I don't need to get to 5GHz

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The games I play will run just fine with my CPU as it is rn lol

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Even on max graphics, and what not

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:42 AM

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then dont worry about planning on tons of thermal headroom

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Would the 240mm version of that MasterLiquid AIO be as good as Corsair's H150i 240mm, or would Corsair's be better

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:43 AM

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the corsair one is prolly gonna last much longer

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Would it also cool my CPU much better?

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

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If they’re the same radiator size, it depends on the CFM
Also construction of the radiator itself

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

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i would say the differences are minimal

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the corsair probably has a higher fin density, could have better fans

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just depends on the spec sheet

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Tbh from what I’ve experienced, with Corsair fans you’re paying for the brand

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

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thats facts

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:45 AM

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But Corsair is known for having very good AIOs

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Oh the Corsair 240mm has 2 ML series fans on it

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75 CFM for fan airflow

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For Corsair

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:48 AM

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What’s your budget for an AIO?

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:50 AM

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And CM's 240mm has a CFM of 66.7 with the 2 fans

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At the most.. $200

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Have you checked out NZXT at all?
I’ve universally heard very good things about them. The Kraken X63 is a 280mm AIO that puts out 98 CFM

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If you want to choose between the CM and Corsair, definitely go for the Corsair

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I did, but I don't think their AIOs would be compatible with my mobo's software for RGB, or for dragon center, or whatever

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Ah

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:53 AM

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And I heard some people don't like CAM for a few reasons

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Like that their AIOs show your CPU temps, and stuff on their AIO caps, though

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And I heard they have good thermals

azure crown Sep 7, 2020, 2:54 AM

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z63 is clean

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:54 AM

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All of NZXT’s stuff is apparently very good in thermals and acoustics. The LCD cap thing is only on the Z series, and if I’m not mistaken that’s a good amount more expensive than the X series

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Also I’m pretty sure NZXTs would be compatible with built-in RGB synchronizers like ASUS Aura

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Not from direct experience, but I see no reason why they wouldn’t be

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:56 AM

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What about with Mystic Light?

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Nah. Apparently Mystic Light only works with select brands, which does not include NZXT

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Fr

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Yeah

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The latest source I could find on that was from late 2019, let me do some more research and see if that’s changed

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Yeah.. NZXT's Z series is a bit expensive..

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Seems like it hasn’t. Apparently MSI only partners with select brands/products

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Which still doesn’t include NZXT

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Does Asus partner with them

frosty latch Sep 7, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Hmm. From what I can tell, NZXT doesn’t really sync with any brand

magic sparrow Sep 7, 2020, 3:02 AM

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NZXT has some decent products, but terrible support

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so just a bit of a warning there

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tho x/z 63/73 are some of the best noise normalized AIOs out there rn, esp for GPU AIO cooling due to much flatter coldplate (and btw, AIOs can easily rival and beat some custom loops if they are good, which NZXTs newest generation can).

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:06 AM

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What about MSI's AIOs

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Are they worth anything

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Well apparently they put their pumps IN the radiator

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And pump cool water into the loop

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I've never heard of that being done before

topaz blaze Sep 7, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Is the kraken x63 good? It's cheaper than the x62 but apparently is missing the ability to control fan speed in CAM?

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Overall would you guys recommend it for a 10700k and a 3080

dull basin Sep 7, 2020, 5:56 AM

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most nzxt aios are fine

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it should be good for a 10700k

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just dont trust the temp display on it though

topaz blaze Sep 7, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Alright. So I read I can just control fan speed in the good anyway, but hopefully the x63 will be quiet enough that I don't feel the need to mess with that

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Thanks

dull basin Sep 7, 2020, 6:04 AM

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np

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 2:11 PM

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How good is MSI's MAG CORELIQUID 360R

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 2:41 PM

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not great (Performs at the level or worse than say a H100i 240mm as a 360mm aio)

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:14 PM

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What about Cooler Master's MasterLiquid ML360R

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:16 PM

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no

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masterleaker still afaik (reputation with leaking)

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Just grab a Arctic freezer ii

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:17 PM

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.-.

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How good is Arctic's Liquid Freezer II

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:19 PM

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really good

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like best performing noise-normalized aio GN tested iirc

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and only behind clc360 in pure perf because clc360 gest loud asf

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:20 PM

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How long are the tubes on the 360mm variant of that series

cold island Sep 7, 2020, 3:21 PM

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long tube

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Cause I'm thinking of taking a 360, and mounting it to the front of my case, with the tubes down at the bottom of the radiator

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:23 PM

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That'll work as long as the case doesn't have like a psu shroud that blocks it

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I have the Lancool II

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Don't think that'll be an issue

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Just have to have long enough tubes

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Does it need any software to control the fans, and pump speed, and all that

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And is it proprietary..

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Fans are controllable by anything that controls fans ofc

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Cause me, and my dumb self got some of Cooler Master's MF120R ARGB fans, instead of Corsair fans, or something

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Like bios

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Or mobo manufacturer software

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Would it be compatible with Cooler Master's software

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 PM

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That should apply to all fans

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Coolermaster's what software

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If it can change crap on the motherboard, then yes ofc

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I think it's MasterPlus..

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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No matter what, bios will work

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As long as it's using a 3/4pin, which it is.

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Yeah, unless I do something with the BIOS..

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Bios fan curves are pretty nice once you get one done

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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(Like clear CMOS, or something if I had to)

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Save as a preset into a file and onto a USB stick

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Pretty sure all mobos let you

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Ok.. but what if I wanted to use software to control the fans, and AIO instead

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Look, if that software can control case fans, it can control aio fans.

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Well Ik

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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It doesn't use some wacky usb hub

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Oh wait

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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It uses a standard 4 pin pwm cable

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I'm dumb

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I can use CM fans if those fans won't work with the software

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Probably will, cause I want most, if not all of my fans to be ARGB so the build will look better

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:35 PM

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The p12 fans it comes with are amazing for the aio tho

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Really good pressure optimised fans for AIOs

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Is it possible to test an AIO before I put it into my system btw

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Or do I have to put it in, then test it

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Cause I wanna make sure it doesn't leak, or anything

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Put in then test

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You can put paper towels on pump and rad if you wanted to be really really careful

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:40 PM

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What if I tried doing what GN did in their video

cold island Sep 7, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@low pumice noctua noctua noctua noctua

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:41 PM

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(Running an AIO outside of a system to test it for leaks, or whatever)

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Would that damage it in any way

cold island Sep 7, 2020, 3:47 PM

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shouldnt damage it

proper fulcrum Sep 7, 2020, 3:50 PM

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So I could do that to make sure it doesn't leak all over the inside of my system if it does leak

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@cold island Most Noctua fans afaik aren't really focused on pressure, so not too great for AIOs, but Noctua fans are still amazing

cold island Sep 7, 2020, 4:29 PM

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:v it was a joke but their f series are for static pressure

low pumice Sep 7, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Tru

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Sad there's no f14 afaik

cold island Sep 7, 2020, 4:38 PM

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yeah

delicate talon Sep 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I need to replace the fan on my Enermax ETS-T40F-RF heatsink. Do I have to use the exact same fan that comes with the unit, or can I replace it with another 120/140mm fan?

normal cipher Sep 7, 2020, 6:57 PM

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technically you can use any fan, as long as it fits and has the side clips to attach to the heatsink itself. the safest option is to find an exact same fan, but if you can i know noctua at least makes some ones like those to attach to heatsinks @delicate talon

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I would take the AIO, and plug the block into ny mobo's PUMP_FAN header, right

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 1:14 AM

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And if I still chose to get that Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML 360R, would the tubes reach if I mounted the radiator with the tubes down in my Lian Li Lancool II case

wet patio Sep 8, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I need feedback. If I was to fully loop in an o11 dynamic, most likely white fluid, what would look the best? White case, white components, white fluid, or black components instead?

light fog Sep 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@wet patio
It's all personally preference and really you'd have to match what's in your room but I would do all white.
Or if you want to make some cookies and crème you could do some white and some black and mix it up.

wet patio Sep 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I think white and black would be best. I mean I have a wood desk atm but still, I think ill do black and some white. Maybe build it on pc building sim would be the best thing to see what looks best? @light fog

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Also since white parts are somewhat more expensive...idk if I should do white or black fans anyway. I think black parts with a white case and white fluid would go best tbh

light fog Sep 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Go for it.

wet patio Sep 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Needed some reassurance, thank you a ton lol

random raven Sep 8, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Hey guys, do you think that the x73 aio cooler with 3 fans will fit in the corsair spec-06? ive looked through it and i think it will but im still not sure

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 4:59 AM

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@random raven i think it will but i think that mounting a 360mm with one of the fans blowing into a psu shroud would be a waste. i'd go with a 240mm

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and top mount it

random raven Sep 8, 2020, 5:06 AM

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240 mm as in 2 fans? sorry im not the best with this stuff

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah

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it would be 2 120mm fans instead of 3

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what cpu do u have? @random raven

random raven Sep 8, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Core i5-8600K Coffee Lake 3.6 GHz

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 5:20 AM

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oh yeah u definitely dont need a 360mm. even a 240mm is a lot. generally i9’s run decently hot with i7’s cooler and i5’s even cooler. a 240 mm will support quite a bit of overclocking on your cpu without issue

random raven Sep 8, 2020, 5:20 AM

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ok thank you 🙂

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 5:21 AM

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np

obtuse apex Sep 8, 2020, 11:51 AM

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What cooler would yall recommend for a 3970x? I'm looking for an AIO that i can play games with and run cpu heavy programs. Any help would be appreciated

low pumice Sep 8, 2020, 11:54 AM

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@obtuse apex I suggest you look at a NH-U14S TR4-SP3

obtuse apex Sep 8, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Ive heard great things about Noctua coolers but im not big on the brown fans. can i switch it out for a black fan?

low pumice Sep 8, 2020, 11:56 AM

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I'll look at AIOs later

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Well, they're not in stock often, but you can grab the chromax versions

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For example:
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-pwm-chromax-black-swap

NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap

Having received more than 100 awards and recommendations from international hardware websites and magazines, the NF-A14 is one of Noctua’s most renowned and popular 140mm fans. Its square frame makes it ideal for use on water cooling radiators or as a case fan. The chromax.bl...

obtuse apex Sep 8, 2020, 11:58 AM

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alright thanks for the help ill look into it

low pumice Sep 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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AIOs are still an option

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just not too familiar with the TR AIO market

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 1:15 PM

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ok aio tips: dont buy a huge aio bc u probably dont need it. dont buy the stupid overpriced corsair things. some are like $160 for a 240mm rad. almost all decent aios will perform very similarly. avoid knockoff brands bc if it breaks, your pc is now quite wet

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@obtuse apex

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oh i see u have a threadripper. be careful with aios. they wont come with a mounting bracket for your cpu usually

obtuse apex Sep 8, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Yeah after a bit of research I don’t think AIO is the way to go with threadrippers unfortunately. I’ll probably stick to air cooling if I decide to do the TR build

low pumice Sep 8, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@obtuse apex Gamers Nexus did a video on TR AIOs iirc, the size of the coldplate matters from AIO to AIO, since TR has a bigger IHS

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Can anyone tell me the tube length on a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R AIO

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@proper fulcrum 30-ish cm

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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so they're about.. 300mm long..

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ok.. if I got that, and put it in a Lian Li Lancool II case, with the GPU mounted vertically, and mounted the radiator to the front of the case, with the tubes down.. would they reach

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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that is for you to figure out

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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.-.

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how good would the 240mm version of that same AIO do

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 4:18 PM

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read reviews on both and compare

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IF you want to deal with building a custom, you are also going to have to do some research on your own

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I already have read the reviews on both

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I'm just wanting to know if the tubes are long enough if I wanted to mount a 360 in front with tubes down

random raven Sep 8, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@lusty wadi so (sorry like i said im not good with this stuff) I should get the x53 not the x63

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I am the one who asked yester day "Hey guys, do you think that the x73 aio cooler with 3 fans will fit in the corsair spec-06? ive looked through it and i think it will but im still not sure"

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@proper fulcrum if you have read the reviews, why ask us to tell you the result?

proper fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Nvm.

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@burnt goblet Sorry for the tube length, and other stuff I'm wanting to know not being in said reviews, or on the AIO manufacturer's website.

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 5:49 PM

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google is your friend for stuff like this

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hence why i said, you are going to have to do some research on your own

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that is the answer for your first question about the 360 rad

haughty horizon Sep 8, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Does anyone know if the be quiet shadow wings 2 have good air pressure and speed does anyone own them?

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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they are decent fans

haughty horizon Sep 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Ok i may get the white version to put in my phanteks p300

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@random raven yeah you’ll be fine with the x53. and unless ur doing a lot of overclocking even a 120mm would be fine. that would open up more mounting options for your case too

granite patrol Sep 8, 2020, 9:17 PM

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tbh just get a reasonable air cooler at the point

supple jewel Sep 8, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Does this look good?

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Fans go up to 1500RPM

lusty wadi Sep 8, 2020, 9:28 PM

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i mean if thats what u need

supple jewel Sep 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Seems adequate, Max temp of 74C on the cpu

ivory jackal Sep 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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does the wraith prism cooler do a good job at keeping temps down on a 3700x during prolonged gaming?

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yes

ivory jackal Sep 8, 2020, 9:43 PM

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ok, im not trying to buy an extra cpu cooler if i dont need one

burnt goblet Sep 8, 2020, 9:44 PM

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you dont need to

fluid field Sep 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I am excited for the new SL120 case fans from Lian Li

maiden delta Sep 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Same

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They seem super great for the price

past drum Sep 9, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Hi everyone I hope y’all are having a wonderful day/evening/night. I’m looking into upgrading my pc with the RTX 3070, ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard, Lian li O11 Dynamic XL or Thermaltake view 51 and I wanna add water cooling to the whole system. Can anyone help with the water cooling?

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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You'd probably have to choose between a custom liquid cooling and AIO cooling

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you might have some bad time working on the custom cooling

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:18 PM

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is it hard to do?

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:18 PM

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but the AIO cooling is easy to install but it also has some problems such as leaks , problems because of the way u installed it

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is it hard to do?
@left tiger depends on ur experience tbh

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:19 PM

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gotcha

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i've never installed one since it's complicated

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i'll be installing a new AIO after 3 days or so

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i wanted one for aesthetics so it was gonna be a simple pump, reservoir, and one going to the cpu

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and ik there are different tubings

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just dont know if experience is needed

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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the tubes are the the most hard thing to work with i believe

cold island Sep 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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if u use soft tubing it shouldnt be hard

safe aspen Sep 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I was considering a custom loop with my build but I'm about to head out the door and buy an AIO. One of the mistakes I made early one was fan choice - the QLs are bad rad airflow, but I like how they look. Don't make my mistake if you want to build a loop.

cold island Sep 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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bending hard tubing isnt the easiest tho yea

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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idk if i have ql fans

safe aspen Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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They're the Corsair ones with RGBs on both sides so they look good intake and exhaust

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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dont you need a heat gun for hard tubing

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oh i think i got those then lol

cold island Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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yes

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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not corsair

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but deepcool cl120's

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i think

safe aspen Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I don't know about those

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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ill look it up

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:23 PM

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there is a thing to put in mind
Liquid coolers can harm ur device when installing it wrong

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:23 PM

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yea

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:23 PM

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AIO's might leak in worst case

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:23 PM

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and im not ocing so it isn't necessary

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i just like the look

safe aspen Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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*and the silence

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Lmao same

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my mobo isn't that good when it comes to overclocking

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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but the nzxt aios are the only good ones and they hella expensive

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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but i liked the look of the nzxt's kraken ngl

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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so id rather do a custom loop

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ya they are sick

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:25 PM

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what's ur budget?

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:25 PM

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but 250 for an aio isnt worth it

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idk

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:25 PM

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i bought nzxt kraken x53 for 130 dollars

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33 for the shipping but it actually depends on ur location

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if u like it for the look u can buy The kraken m22

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even tho it's not that good

left tiger Sep 9, 2020, 3:28 PM

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i like the display so id do the x63

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:28 PM

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you can install an lcd display in ur case instead

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you can play Videos

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but yeah ur right the display is insane

past drum Sep 9, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@calm umbra but which one is better for low temp. bc I have fans for cooling and my room probably more hotter than hell. so i want the get the lowest temp

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:32 PM

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there is no big difference

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but a custom one is for sure better

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if you just want an easy installation get an All-In-One

past drum Sep 9, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Can we do private convo?

calm umbra Sep 9, 2020, 3:33 PM

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sure thing

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Anyone available to help with some case fan questions?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:31 PM

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whats up? @marble tiger

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u dont need to ask to ask. just ask

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Ok sorry @lusty wadi I’m planning to build in a Corsair obsidian 1000D and wondering about optimal case fan setup

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The stock config allows for 8 120mm’s in the front, 3 140mm’s up top, and 2 120mm’s in the back

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:39 PM

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any rads?

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I’m planning to do this one solely on airflow

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I was thinking of populating all of those slots with noctua pwm chromax’s

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:40 PM

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ok then id go all intake on front and exhaust on top and rear

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Ok that’s what I was thinking too. If I do that, it looks like total intake is around 506 CFM and exhaust is 374 CFM. Is that too out of balance?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:41 PM

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nah

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u gotta look at proportions over actual numbers

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Ok. Think that setup will be good from a noise and airflow standpoint?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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thats about a 10/7 ratio

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as long as u dont crank the fans to max noise shouldnt be a problem. airflow should be great with that many fans regardless

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the pos pressure will keep dust out too so thats a plus

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Right on thanks! Another question around fan control then...

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:44 PM

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?

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I could combine the control with headers on the mobo as well as a separate controller that comes with the mobo (asus) or...

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The case comes with a Corsair command pro controller but only 6 fan connections on it.

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:45 PM

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yeah. as long as the fans have power theyll go. dont try to chain splitters tho.

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the commander pro does speed. it then has 2 ports for lighting hubs

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ok I was assuming connecting through the mobo as well as it’s controller would control speed as well?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:46 PM

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2 commander pros would probably be reallg nice from a consistency standpoint. however, im not sure if the software is compatible with 2

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Yeah Corsair told me I could use 2, but trying to avoid having to buy something else just to control

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:48 PM

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if u have some on the commander and some on the mobo then i feel like that would just make things more difficult by having to use 2 separate things to control fan speed

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if ur willing to drop $500 on a case id say a $70 fan hub is a good investment

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Yeah I agree. What I’m talking about is the mobo comes with its own controller (separate from the Corsair command pro). So between the mobo headers and that controller, I think I can connect all 13 fans and control them with ASUS software

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:50 PM

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oh i gotcha. then that should be fine...unless youre looking to chain lighting effects

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Yeah, not really interesting in lighting on this one. Going full performance / noise

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:51 PM

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what do u need so much space/airflow for?

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is it mostly drives and stuff or just insane cooling?

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Honestly I know it’s overkill.

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But planning to build a beast with a rtx 3090 and i9 10900k

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:52 PM

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i mean thats what i have and my o11 dynamic should do just fine

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plus if u have bottom mounted fans it helps cool the 3090 a lot

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Hmm I’ll have to look at that. Always had pretty good luck with Corsair cases but haven’t looked much at the Lian li

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:54 PM

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im just saying nobody buys a super tower sized case unless u have like 10 drives that need cooling too

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really just a waste of space

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:55 PM

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No problem for an EATX in that o11?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:57 PM

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dont think it fits eatx but i gotta ask what u need that for. eatx like huge cases is for tons of connections. it u have 1 gpu and fan hubs its really unnecessary. at the end of the day its completely up to preference but that board is going to look to empty

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this is an atx

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there is an o11 dynamic eatx case too

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the o11 xl

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 7:58 PM

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That looks nice. Do you intake in the bottom?

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 7:59 PM

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bottom and side yeah

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exhaust on top

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plus TONS of space for cables

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Well now you’re making me go back to the drawing board lol. I just have a tendency to go to the max on everything. It maybe I should scale it back some.

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 8:01 PM

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i would suggest doing that. usually these huge cases are for professionals and creators/renderers/architects

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yeah it’s a good suggestion. And I really appreciate all your other help @lusty wadi Gotta run but thanks!!

lusty wadi Sep 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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np man

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gl

marble tiger Sep 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Ty

frigid owl Sep 9, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Anyone have a recommendation on how I should configure my fans in the .meshify s2? I have 3 corsair ll120s to add to the 3 140s the case came with

silent sorrel Sep 9, 2020, 10:28 PM

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im getting a meshify two which has 1 rear, 3 front, 2 top, 1 bottom, best orientation (i have 5 more powerful fans and 2 so-so fans

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*meshify c

normal cipher Sep 9, 2020, 11:07 PM

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@frigid owl id put the 3 corsairs in front intake for the cool factor. then the rest on rear and top to exhaust

frigid owl Sep 9, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yeah I was thinking either that or the corsair on top but also I didnt know how the mix of 140 and 120 would matter

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Depending on which is intake or exhaust

normal cipher Sep 10, 2020, 12:15 AM

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as long as it fits the case i honestly cant notice much of a differnce

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beyond 1 intake and 1 exhaust, fans have diminishing returns

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you definetly arent gonna lack in airflow regardless

acoustic wharf Sep 10, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Need some help deciding what I can buy on amazon for around $50 on 3 exhaust fans, my case came with 3 rgb 120mm phanteks fans and i wanted to match them but they are out of stock everywhere. Only the 140mms are available, so now im trying to match the fans with a different brand that doesnt stick out too much. Ill also need a controller... If you guys can help it would be appreciated
Also If possible id like to stay on amazon to buy these but if i have to go somewhere else Ill take what i can get.

proper fulcrum Sep 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Would a 360mm AIO from EK do WAY better than one from Cooler Master

cold island Sep 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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slightly better at most unless the coolermaster one is like beyond total crap

proper fulcrum Sep 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Would it beat a ML360R

novel wing Sep 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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anyone know if an x63 is a good/reliable cooler ?

light island Sep 10, 2020, 1:48 AM

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use water

wet patio Sep 10, 2020, 1:48 AM

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If I get a copper radiator and nickel cpu/gpu block, will that be a problem?

wet patio Sep 10, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Also, what fittings will I need for a full custom loop with one radiator and a distro plate?

magic sparrow Sep 10, 2020, 3:23 AM

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@novel wing very good cooler, quite reliable, but terrible company. If you are the very unlucky person of say getting a lemon AIO, NZXT does a terrible job for support

wet patio Sep 10, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Corsair has good RMA @novel wing and if you buy through amazon they can refund you if you don’t want the same AIO. It’s what I did

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Would a 120mm radiator cool a Ryzen 5 3600?

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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What's the use case? 120mm rads are usually a pretty bad option relative to the other options.

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Gaming

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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As in, what are you putting it in, this time, literally what's the case you're using

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Oh phanteks p400

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Whats the use case sounded like what you use it for

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Why not a 240/280mm rad or go cheaper with a decent air cooler?

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Im having a debate on whether I should get an aio or air cooler

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Just don't go 120mm aios, they're nearly always in the weird like 80$ spot of not as good cooling as the good air coolers or aios, and not cheap enough to make sense, or cheap enough to be competitive in price-to-performance

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Ok so 240 also could i just get an aio and a radiator with no fans

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So i can put my own fans on it

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:08 PM

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AIO includes the rad and fans

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comes for free, but you could change them out

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Well if i got no fans it would be cheaper?

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:10 PM

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You basically can't

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Oh

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 2:10 PM

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no AIOs I know on the market come with no fans

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I've never seen it

topaz blaze Sep 10, 2020, 2:46 PM

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What are some good rgb fans for nzxt h510?

cyan vessel Sep 10, 2020, 3:14 PM

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gotta check the fan sizes first, and then you can just find any fan with that size with some good reviews on amazon or newegg, etc.

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the case description should display what fan sizesthey have for top, front, and back

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Why is their a prong missing on PWM fan splitters?

vagrant horizon Sep 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Hi everyone

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I wanted to ask if you guys knew by any chance if the EK-AC GEFORCE RTX D-RGB
Water block will be compatible with the newer generation RTX 30xx series models by any chance?

I'm looking to buy this kit EK Liquid-Cooling Barebone Kit (AMD + RTX) & Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic (https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00H0-00002) hence why I want to make sure it would be compatible

Please and thank you

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:19 PM

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look at the specs of the kit on the manufacturers page @vagrant horizon

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Don’t buy a water block yet.

vagrant horizon Sep 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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look at the specs of the kit on the manufacturers page @vagrant horizon
@burnt goblet Already did that, but they haven't updated the compatible cards (if they ever will) I guess because the 30xx series hasn't come out yet

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Don’t buy a water block yet.
@autumn spire It comes with the case, it's a whole cooling package

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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One company has a reference block out. But even the FE is not a reference. We don’t have info yet. Jay2cents did a vid on this I think

vagrant horizon Sep 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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So I'm debating whether to buy the case or not because I'm planning to buy a RTX 3080 once they are available... So we're all guessing here it seems

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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its like any custom block. IF the manufacturers page does not say it is compatible. Dont buy it

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:25 PM

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So. Why do PWM splitters have missing prongs?

vagrant horizon Sep 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Alright I'll wait to buy the case then, thank you anyways @burnt goblet @autumn spire

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Well obviously. I think you would be wasteing money

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@autumn spire link a picture of what you mean?

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I bought a set too .. They are just like this

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one prong is missing on one of them.. And they are listed as PWM

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:30 PM

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no idea why that would be the case

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its not something i have thought about recently either

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as in, i have not handled any recently

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:31 PM

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IIRC it's because it can only take 1 fan's PWM signal

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I just looked up a diffrent brand one.. I found the same result

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Since there's only 1 pin that handles signaling of fan speeds and such, and it shows up as only 1 fan to the mobo

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Does the wire double back and power both fans then at the same rate?

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It must be

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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power wise it should be the same

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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that one looks like a Y splitter

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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It is

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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so it "just" sends what it it receives at the start

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the 2 connectors above "blindly" mirror what is fed into it at the single connector out of frame

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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So basiclly one fan gets a signal. Then just shares its power with the second.. Inteesting.. Ill try it on my AIO and see if it woirks

burnt goblet Sep 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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i think you are missing the point

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red is input

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of both power and "control"

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that gets mirrored and sent to the 2 fans that are connected on the yellow end

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I cant say i understand it.. ill test it and see if it works. I actually not sure the Artic Fans on my AIO are even PWM\

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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P12s are

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I have the 240 Artic Liquid Freezer II

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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simple way to tell is to see if the connector has 3 pins or 4 pins

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But I'm pretty sure it's pwm

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I vaguely remember 3

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If it turns out to be the case ill change them.. I want PWM control on them

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I seriously doubt they're dc

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but check

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P12s are really good radiator fans

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Im aware that Artic P series is good stuff

low pumice Sep 10, 2020, 8:47 PM

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(As in, I doubt they can be so good without having pwm lol)

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I do know their are DC version available. and i dont think PWM matters in cooling performance. Its just helps manage lower speeds and finer copntrol

magic sparrow Sep 10, 2020, 8:55 PM

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@autumn spire alright so you know how the PC can tell you what RPM the fan is running at?

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:56 PM

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The Artic liquid freezer splices everything together. The pump gets PWM control for certain. But the fans are 3 pin

magic sparrow Sep 10, 2020, 8:58 PM

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The PC tells that based of off a signal done by a cord. It can't read multiple signals from a single header. Thus when using a splitter it'll cut the fan RPM reader off and only read it from one fan

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All fans are still running as PWM as the forth cord is the actual PWM cord. The middle-ish (missing one) is the signal/RPM reader

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 8:59 PM

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what if i plugged a DC fan into it?

magic sparrow Sep 10, 2020, 9:00 PM

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It would then only have the 12v line and ground line connected to it. As DC fans control the speed via DC voltage control it'd run at full speed until you go into BIOS and say that the header needs to run in DC mode

jagged flare Sep 10, 2020, 9:01 PM

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orrr

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I See. Ok that makes sense

jagged flare Sep 10, 2020, 9:01 PM

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spend no money and do stock cooler

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Stock cooler best cooler

autumn spire Sep 10, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Blah blah blah

maiden delta Sep 10, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I thought that fan splitter was the 12 pin to dual 8 pin nvidia adapter lol

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I think nvidia stole their design kekw

haughty horizon Sep 10, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Hey guys should i have 2 exhaust one mounted at the top and 2 intakes mounted at the front

cyan vessel Sep 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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yep, that should be neutral air pressure

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u should have one on top bc heat always rises to the top

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neutral air pressure in my opinion is better than positive and negative

wet patio Sep 11, 2020, 12:56 AM

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@vagrant horizon no it’s 2000 series I’m pretty sure.. they have 3000 series blocks but not part of the barebones kit. I wanted to get it as well lol

topaz blaze Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Be quiet dark rock pro is the way to go

low pumice Sep 11, 2020, 4:22 PM

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um?

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what about d15 >:D

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Arctic freezer ii

proper fulcrum Sep 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I'm thinking of getting a 240mm AIO, with fans to match the other 6 CM fans I'm going to have in my case, and I am having trouble figuring out if I can use their ARGB/PWM hub to control both fan speed, and the color, and use a temperature probe with it. Problem is.. it does not look like it has a slot for their proprietary temperature probe. Any suggestions?

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(I'm using Cooler Master MF120R fans, and got a 3 fan kit that came with a temperature probe, mini controller, and all that stuff btw)

plucky hatch Sep 12, 2020, 12:35 AM

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nzxt kraken x63 with the r5 3600?

cold island Sep 12, 2020, 12:41 AM

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just use stock cooler or a $50 air cooler

low pumice Sep 12, 2020, 12:43 AM

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gammaxx 400

idle tiger Sep 12, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Kinpin t-rex

low pumice Sep 12, 2020, 1:01 AM

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@idle tiger not compatible with am4 tho

idle tiger Sep 12, 2020, 1:16 AM

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It is

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Also /s

low pumice Sep 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Is it really?

idle tiger Sep 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Mine came with am am4 bracket

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So ya

low pumice Sep 12, 2020, 1:17 AM

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product page says hold down bracket is for am3 and the rest of the intel sockets

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I guess it's also am4

proper fulcrum Sep 12, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I'm looking at a CM AIO, as it would be more compatible with the fans I already have, as opposed to another brand AIO

proper cradle Sep 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I’m really thinking about removing my current cooler and putting my old one back on

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But I have no thermal paste to apply

wet patio Sep 12, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Is there still any on the cpu @proper cradle

proper cradle Sep 12, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Yea

main bridge Sep 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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y'all got any ideas on what to get for custom loops?

feral fiber Sep 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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don’t cheap out

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cheap tubing is definitely bad, especially since it has a higher chance or creasing when bent

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atleast for soft tubing

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Hard tubing is recommended for the looks

cold island Sep 13, 2020, 4:54 AM

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zmt

magic sparrow Sep 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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That wouldnt be the reason for "cheap soft tubing" to be bad. Just dont make sharp bends, whether expensive or cheap tubing. Cheap tubing can be bad if made out of bad materials that degrades over time from some chemical reaction and then causes gunk buildup

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@main bridge As for what to get, Bykski or Barrow. Very cheap for the quality - about $340 for a RGB CPU/GPU loop with 240/360 rad setup. If you want to pay smth like 1.8x - 2.4x the price for the best of the best, then Aqua Computer or Heatkiller. Companies like EK, Thermaltake, Alphacool, etc dont really give enough cooling perf increase over the cheaper ones to justify the extra cost

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As in you're paying for the brand. Generally speaking too, top end (Heatkiller/Aqua Computer) gives maybe 10c overall better noise normalized perf I think? So also not worth unless you're really pushing your OC or smth

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$335 for the Bykski loop:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000807277229.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.846036benAy4WR

aliexpress.com

US $113.05 5% OFF|Bykski B HSRBW ED,5v 3pin Soft Tube Program Kits,...

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main bridge Sep 13, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Thanks, ill investigate

kindred kindle Sep 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Gonna get the 3080, and I’ve currently got an i9-9900k but I need a new cpu cooler, not sure if I should go with 280mm liquid cooler or the Noctua NH-D15 (or another model, if it’s better). Or should I possibly just wait on testing for the 3080 to see how it affects CPU temps, if you guys think it’ll affect it as much as people seem to assume it will

feral fiber Sep 13, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Noctua is definitely a good brand. Corsair also makes good liquid coolers.

low pumice Sep 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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What case?

kindred kindle Sep 13, 2020, 11:51 PM

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220t rgb Corsair

burnt goblet Sep 14, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@kindred kindle the simple solution is to wait. But i would not be surprised at all if it turns out that there is nothing to worry about

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(unles you are already running things in a case with a setup that is at best silly)

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and no, that is not aimed at you

kindred kindle Sep 14, 2020, 12:27 AM

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lol, not OC or anything like that, just a general consumer. Hopefully not silly lmao.

burnt goblet Sep 14, 2020, 12:27 AM

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but at the people that are running around clucking about the FE cooler being bad for CPU temp :)

kindred kindle Sep 14, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Yeah, I can’t imagine it affecting it more than 1 or 2C°, but we’ll see in a few days 🙂

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Thanks a bunch!

burnt goblet Sep 14, 2020, 12:28 AM

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you are very welcome :)

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and yes indeed, reviews are going to be interesting :)

twin urchin Sep 14, 2020, 12:51 AM

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CPU cooler is already dealing with a bunch of heat from GPU to begin with so it probably will have minimal impact for most people

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 2:03 AM

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thoughts on adding rear intake for vrm cooling and positive air pressure with 360mm top mounted rad in exhaust and triple front intake?

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feral fiber Sep 14, 2020, 2:07 AM

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yeah that’s a good design, just dont get a high rpm fan on the front, as it will cause turbulence and will affect cooling.

charred fossil Sep 14, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Quick question: So I've never done water cooling at all but, I'm looking at a case that supports a 360mm and a 280mm radiator and I've got a friend who's willing to sell me his old 240mm radiator. Can I stick the 240 into the case or does it need to be the exactly 280/360?

cold island Sep 14, 2020, 11:15 AM

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if it supports 360, it should work fine with a 240 rad

calm umbra Sep 14, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Quick question: So I've never done water cooling at all but, I'm looking at a case that supports a 360mm and a 280mm radiator and I've got a friend who's willing to sell me his old 240mm radiator. Can I stick the 240 into the case or does it need to be the exactly 280/360?
@charred fossil if you want a good case, you have the corsair 275r airflow.

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 4:29 PM

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If you want a good case, Coolermaster TD500 mesh hands down my best suggestion

woeful knoll Sep 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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anybody had experience with r9 3900x and 3rd party coolers

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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What about it

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we will likely be able to answer without owning a 3900x anyways

woeful knoll Sep 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i currently using what came with it, Wraith Prism LED Cooler

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would it be worth going with something like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 5:33 PM

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212evo no

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I'd say a step up would be like a Gammaxx 400 as a cheap option, NH-U12s/Dark rock 4/Mugen 5 rev. B and similar coolers for a real upgrade

woeful knoll Sep 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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2nd question, thanks for the suggestions, you think closed-loop liquid coolers worth it

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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AIOs, well if you want good temps for OCing or something, sure they can be

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But if you just want a cooler that can cool the cpu at a lower noise level, a 60$ air cooler works just fine

woeful knoll Sep 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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ok!

light fog Sep 14, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@viral fjord
Hmm intake on the back side.
I find that odd but since you have top exhaust and an AIO I guess that's fine.

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Very positive pressure.

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:14 PM

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how would you do it?

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i just figure a 10900K would benefit from extra VRM cooling

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those are the only 7 fan mounts that the case supports

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@viral fjord I say you do it and tell us about it

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I haven't seen testing on rear intake with top exhaust before

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It'll be interesting

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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so just report cpu/vrm temps in p95?

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I can do that

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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If possible when you do it

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the customer doesn't want overclocking so it'll be at stock

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Should test it both ways y'know

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Intake and exhaust

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Whichever does better in both CPU temps and vrm temps stays

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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oh wait I forgot he's actually getting a different case that only supports 280mm at the top

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but I might have another customer doing a config like this

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unconfirmed but likely

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Dew it

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I really want to see it

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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oh if he does order then i will do it like that the unconfirmed part is whether he will actually order lol

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he said he will once he manages to get his hands on a 3080, but sometimes they change their minds

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hmm

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he wants an NZXT KRAKEN Z73 so the rad must be front mounted

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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It's gonna be warm air coming out of the rad

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That's gonna feed warmer air to the GPU

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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true, nothing I can do about it though

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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And the even warmer air gets fed to ram and vrm

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Front exhaust maybe

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Idk

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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so front exhaust and top and rear as intakes?

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I'm tryna think

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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that's pushing against heat naturally rising, dunno how effective it'll be

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Top intake wouldn't be good because

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Yea

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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1 intake and 5 exhaust is probably not viable

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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It's interesting to think about tho

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Hmm

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@viral fjord bad drawing but you might get the point

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using negative pressure to take air from vents

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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with 1 intake 5 exhaust?

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I don't think passive intake will be enough for the 3080

ember jewel Sep 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Hi everyone, I got the Lian Li digital RGB fans and one of them is being a bit noisy until I tap it. Is there a spot to lubricate these? I tried to find videos but nothing on these ones.

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I’ve already had to replace one with a faulty RGB, not stoked on this new problem.

low pumice Sep 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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@viral fjord negative pressure pulls in fresh air from random spots

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It might work who knows

viral fjord Sep 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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hmm if I have free time I might run some airflow experiments but I won't be terribly scientific

light fog Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I love the little heat and airflow maps.

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:18 AM

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i need to talk to someone who knows more about AIOs than i do 😩

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 4:20 AM

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you should know that you have to ask before anyone can answer @sharp zinc :)

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:22 AM

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true sorry ive been going through things and trying to figure it out. Its the same issue as before, high idle temps and I assumed it was the thermal paste was bad but i just replaced it and its still spiking. Tried changing the pump input location and ramping the fan speeds and aio pump speeds up to max and no change. it idles between 30-40 with spikes up to 50 at idle.

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im about to run a benchmark to see how high it gets at load

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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mounting pressure of cooler itself against the cpu.

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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i have it tight as it can get

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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which cooler?

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and what cpu?

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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cpu is r5 2600 lemme look up the cooler

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QPNP4VP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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now, question: have you had actual problems with it while actually using the system?

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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yeah random shut down with the message "pc shut down cause cpu temp to high!" but ive never actually seen it reach above 70 and ive been keeping hwinfo open to watch for it. i just happen to have been not looking at it for a few min each time it happens so i havent actually witness a super high cpu temp spike

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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that sounds quite weird

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@idle tiger you got any bright ideas?

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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and this has only really been this big of an issue when i got the AIO. before i had higher than average temps but not so high that things broke.

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launching a game now to see if it spikes high.

idle tiger Sep 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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idle temps don't really matter

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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i mean the reason it worries me is the random shut offs with "cpu temps to high!"

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opening a game and playing didnt change the temps at all, so ima try witcher 3 bench and see if that does anything

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cousin lied to me it doesnt seem to have a benchmark. know any games that do?

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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ok well highest i could get it is 56 so ima just see if it happens again. if it does ima call manufacturer

woeful knoll Sep 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/na/

FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION Benchmark | SQUARE ENIX

magic sparrow Sep 15, 2020, 7:39 AM

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@sharp zinc " i just happen to have been not looking at it for a few min each time it happens so i havent actually witness a super high cpu temp spike"
maybe log the temp to a file using a program every second or smth?

sharp zinc Sep 15, 2020, 2:38 PM

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What program would be able to do that

light fog Sep 15, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@sharp zinc
HWINFO...Just Google how to log data with HWINFO it's free.

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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does the m22 kraken support the lga 1200 socket

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yes

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@austere elm see above

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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well if you look at it at a different way it doesnt say it

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so i didnt know if it actually supportedd it

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since from one perspective it didnt say lga 1200

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:10 PM

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it does

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:10 PM

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but from that one it does

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anyways thx

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:10 PM

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which is why you always look at the manufacturers site for info

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:10 PM

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i did

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want me to send screenshot

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:10 PM

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please

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but send as pm, because you are not lvl 3 yet

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@burnt goblet i sent it to you check ur dms

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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obviously not on mobile

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mobile versions of sites cannot be trusted

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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no

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im on the computer

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that is on the computer

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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📎 unknown.png

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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go check the link i sent u

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and scroll down

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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aye aye, its their "condensed" presentation

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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oh ok

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well thanks for helping me

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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in the future, always go for the actual "specific to X product" page :)

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok thx

burnt goblet Sep 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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you are very welcome :) and thank you for showing me that silly condensed view :)

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it is practical to know they have something like that :)

austere elm Sep 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok thanks for your help

oak patio Sep 16, 2020, 2:48 AM

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what is the best performance cooler (water and air cooling)

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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depends on situation

oak patio Sep 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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is there an answer for jsut generally

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 3:03 AM

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on the air side, something like the d15 from noctua

light fog Sep 16, 2020, 6:38 AM

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NH-D15 best air best water would I guess be custom loop. Unless you mean an AIO.

jolly creek Sep 16, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Anyone know if the id cooling pinkflow aio is good

stone jackal Sep 16, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@oak patio good AIO is the Arctic Freezer 360

oak patio Sep 16, 2020, 3:59 PM

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cool thank you

oak patio Sep 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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whats the best case fan

dusty timber Sep 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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corsair 120

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theyre pretty good

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but straight performance noctuas

oak patio Sep 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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thanks

dusty timber Sep 16, 2020, 5:31 PM

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no prob

vital valley Sep 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I'm using a 240 rad rgb platinum

kindred kindle Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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So with 3080 coming out, suggestions on nhd15 vs 240mm AIO? Have a 9900k

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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whichever you want really

spare ember Sep 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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nh d15 is what like 90 and you can grab an arctic liquid freezer 240mm for like 105 so yeah^

kindred kindle Sep 16, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Haven’t seen much on how heat from 3080 affected cpu temp on fan cooler vs AIO yet

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At work, planning on reading/watching as much as I can tonight

cold island Sep 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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like 1-3c

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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in other words: it is more important that you sit correct in your chair

cold island Sep 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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strong back>cpu temps

magic sparrow Sep 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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As Nachos said, not that much.
1 - 3c temp difference is so small it only matters in like very high end OC, tho at that point you wont be using any air cooler nor water cooling. I dont think that is even dry ice area. So basically LN2 only area

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FE cooler is probably better cuz case ambient stays low after say 5 hrs of use.

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one fan pushes are out of the case and other pushes it almost directly to a case fan. That's a lot better airflow management then on standard air cooled cards

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Literally worst case I can even imagine it really being is like 8c, which might be the "dry ice worrying level" or smth

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unless of course you'd trying to OC a 10900k on a stock Intel cooler or smth strange

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TLDR: shouldnt matter for just about anyone

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 10:48 PM

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so, what you are saying: a regular user from this server being themselves?

cold island Sep 16, 2020, 10:48 PM

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😳 impossible

magic sparrow Sep 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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so, what you are saying: a regular user from this server being themselves?
I mean, also true

burnt goblet Sep 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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that was in particular about the "OC a 10900k on stock intel cooler"

magic sparrow Sep 16, 2020, 11:15 PM

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ye

azure crown Sep 16, 2020, 11:17 PM

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📎 IMG_20200916_191634.jpg

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wow this box is way bigger than I thought it would be

topaz blaze Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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🤏

cold island Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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oo eisbaer those are nice

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and u can just slap a gpu waterblock+tubing in there and have a custom loop

kindred kindle Sep 17, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Duly noted, thanks fellas love_it

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Just don’t know if the Noctua would fit in my case OMEGALUL

burnt goblet Sep 17, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@kindred kindle the spec page for your case has the info you need to figure that out

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or you can also look at the noctua site, they have a comp checker for it

kindred kindle Sep 17, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I’d just be worried about this piece

📎 image0.jpg

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Though the AIO fits just fine but the nhd15 is huge lol

burnt goblet Sep 17, 2020, 12:13 AM

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thats not case clearance, that is mainboard clearance

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which again, noctua has a comp checker for

kindred kindle Sep 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Whoops, yeah that’s what I meant

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I’ll do that then, thanks yet again

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Huge help lately love_it

burnt goblet Sep 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/comp

NH-D15

Built on the basis of the legendary NH-D14 and carrying on its quest for ultimate quiet cooling performance, Noctua’s flagship model NH-D15 is an elite-class dual tower cooler for the highest demands. Its expanded heatpipe layout and two premium grade NF-A15 140mm fans with PW...

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there you go

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scroll down

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and find your mainboard model there

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it should be there

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and you are very welcome.

oak patio Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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what is a good air cooler for a mATX case

humble elbow Sep 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xWnFFG

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Building this bad boy with a 3080 rog edition

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Any tips or anyone familiar with custom water cooling on this case?

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Interested in opinions on products/brands

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Also prices arent an accurate representation bc markets volatile and i plan on acquiring most components around black friday/cyber monday to snag some deals

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I should say liquid cooling**

edgy remnant Sep 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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I just gut out the parts put them on a long ass wire and shove it in the freezer set at max

topaz blaze Sep 17, 2020, 8:39 AM

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anyone know the best aio cooler i can get currently?

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my budget is $500 at max

dusty timber Sep 17, 2020, 11:02 AM

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q

anyone know the best aio cooler i can get currently?
@topaz blaze Really ugly but amazing thermals is Arctic freezer 2

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a non ugly is really any nzxt aio

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they cool pretty decent

low pumice Sep 17, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Wut

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Arctic freezer ii looks good

dusty timber Sep 17, 2020, 11:26 AM

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uh

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not really

low pumice Sep 17, 2020, 11:26 AM

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@topaz blaze literally get an Arctic freezer ii

light fog Sep 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I have a CoolerMaster ML360R and it performs better than the Corsair H150i so if that says anything.

low pumice Sep 17, 2020, 12:17 PM

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does it tho

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:P

light fog Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Yes

idle tiger Sep 17, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@light fog For your 3090 nvlink cooling https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-511-8-Turbo-Jet-Engine/173663329804

eBay

Rolls Royce 511-8 Turbo Jet Engine

Manufacturer : Rolls Royce. We will try our best to help resolve any problem.

light fog Sep 17, 2020, 11:34 PM

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cat_dance

somber river Sep 18, 2020, 12:40 AM

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is a fractal design celsius s24 better than a scythe mugen rev b

feral acorn Sep 18, 2020, 1:34 AM

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For a ryzen 2600 at 3.8ghz or higher would it better to go for scythe Fuma 2 air cooler or a 120mm aio cooler, currently using stock and need something better
I have a deepcool tesseract case and it only fits a 120mm aio at the rear or a air cooler up to 168mm in height.

cinder heron Sep 18, 2020, 2:36 AM

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How should I have my fan config in Lian li o11 dynamic? All intake besides the rear or all intake besides top and rear

humble elbow Sep 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Front all intake one rear outake plus psu aio radiating out the top bottom intake

proud osprey Sep 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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hello guys does fit in nxzt kraken 63 in corsair 465icue ? have any idea ?

burnt goblet Sep 18, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@proud osprey yes, the 280mm radiator of the Kraken x63 fits in the Icue 465

proud osprey Sep 18, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@burnt goblet thank u but i want to locate radiator top of the case

burnt goblet Sep 18, 2020, 3:08 PM

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then ask

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we cannot read your mind :)

proud osprey Sep 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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😄

burnt goblet Sep 18, 2020, 3:16 PM

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https://www.corsair.com/medias/sys_master/images/images/he7/hfe/9330348851230/-CC-9011189-WW-Gallery-465X-WHITE-05.png <- that answers it for you @proud osprey

proud osprey Sep 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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damn 😄

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good picture bad news

burnt goblet Sep 18, 2020, 3:19 PM

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generally: The case manufacturers will have pictures like the one above on their sites

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you just have to actually go through their gallery of pictures for the specific case you are looking at

proud osprey Sep 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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but u guys have better answers Celebration

burnt goblet Sep 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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yes, but we can only answer correctly when you know what to ask

light fog Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Do we though. xdoubt

safe citrus Sep 18, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Does anyone use Corsair QLs and has a commander? if so, do you use more than 6?

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like replacing aio fans with the corsair ones

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am curious to see if the commander for it is worth it

hexed ledge Sep 18, 2020, 11:24 PM

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bruh

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that guys budget for an aio is 500$?

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wtf

twin urchin Sep 19, 2020, 1:27 AM

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@somber river mugen 5 should be plenty for that. Also shadow rock 3 should be about the same as well

tender bronze Sep 19, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@safe citrus I do What do you seek from RGB's power

rustic lodge Sep 19, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Hi everyone, what cooler would you use for an i9-10850k ?

I am looking at the Thermaltake Floe DX 280 Dual Riing Duo 16.8 Million Colors RGB 36 LED LGA2066

idle tiger Sep 19, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Noctua U12a

rustic lodge Sep 19, 2020, 5:45 PM

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great

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thanks

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Not sure if it's compatible with a ASUS TUF Z490-Plus

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what's your thought ?

low pumice Sep 19, 2020, 5:51 PM

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No reason it's not, what case though?

rustic lodge Sep 19, 2020, 5:52 PM

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going with a Fractal Design Define 7

burnt goblet Sep 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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that works just fine

rustic lodge Sep 19, 2020, 5:58 PM

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thanks

burnt goblet Sep 19, 2020, 6:37 PM

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check the mounting pressure on your cpu cooler

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and have you remembered thermal paste?

twin urchin Sep 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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and removed the sticker

safe citrus Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@tender bronze thanks for the response, went with the ql20s and two controllers bc am getting a dynamic xl

topaz blaze Sep 20, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Wow that's a lot of thermal paste for ryzen

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 3:13 AM

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so I see ppl saying AIO on top of the O11 Dynamic but I tried that and the tubes are too long on my Silverstone AIO for that

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:34 PM

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yay

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:37 PM

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👍👍👍👍

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:39 PM

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lol i just booted up my pc

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now its this:

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low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:40 PM

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What about it

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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the temps are really low?

cold island Sep 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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:v its idle

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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ya ik

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Idle doesn't matter

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Idle just tells you about room temp lol

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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its just satisfying to see low temps lol

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Ln2

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Start doing something

chrome cedar Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Get ln2 and see very low temp

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Ya

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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the highest my gpu get when gaming is around 80

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Ln2 or nothing

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Wht?

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Bruh

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Thats a little high

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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i have 2060super

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Bruh

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That's why idle temp doesn't matter

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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ya ik

chrome cedar Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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My 2070 highest about 72-74

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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thats why i like looking at the idle temps

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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What case you have

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Me too

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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i have a crappy ibuypower case

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:44 PM

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77c after half an hour of furmark

viral grove Sep 20, 2020, 3:44 PM

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i want to get lianli o11

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Same but idk if it’s better than p500a

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Ima wait on reccomending anything but a td500 mesh until GN reviews em

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:45 PM

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GN Already reviewed the p500a

low pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Oh I was thinking about the Corsair thing

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5000d or whatever

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P500a was the big p400a

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Oh i change my mind

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Yeah p500a is pretty good in his tests

hidden vector Sep 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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hey all, decided to come here for this. my aio (corsair h100i) makes and odd gurgling sound. setting the performance to extreme in icue eliminates this sound, but makes the aio very very loud. my radiator is mounted on the right side of my case, with the tubing at the top of the radiator. any help?

weary creek Sep 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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why dont u like it

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bubbles sound cool

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smh

hidden vector Sep 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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bubbly would be cool

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but it's gurgly

topaz blaze Sep 20, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Maybe tap it a couple times? Lol get the bubbles out

hidden vector Sep 20, 2020, 6:42 PM

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alright

twin urchin Sep 20, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Flip it so tubes at bottom

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The way God intended

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I need help

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so I am wondering what is the best 360 mm AIO for amd under like 130

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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so I am wondering what is the best 360 mm AIO for amd under like 130
@barren igloo lmao there arent many ngl .___.

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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for that price range

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:18 PM

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lemme see

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I could do 200

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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150 dollars is a good spot ngl

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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yeah

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that is what it is looking like for a 360

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and I don't even need it rn

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I have a little ryzen 5 3600

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-icue-h150i-rgb-pro-xt-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181192?Item=N82E16835181192&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-liquid-cooling-system-kraken-x/p/N82E16835146068?Item=N82E16835146068
these r ur best options probrably under 200 dolalrs 360 mm radioatoer w/fans

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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not doing it for the performance just for aesthetic

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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oh

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...

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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but if I am going to get one I am going to get the best for the moneyh LMFAO

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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get the kraken then i think it lookers cleaner

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if u weant rgb though u can get seperate fans for about 75

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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yeah

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I thought about getting the newest kraken z73 I think is what it is called

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where it shows the temp of the CPU

coral oak Sep 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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lmao the x73 is just as good ngl

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I think its between that and the Artcic liquid freezer 2 360

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I am going to try and get the AIO a new case and then get like 6 fans

unique lilyBOT Sep 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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BooRo#1000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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because they ones I have now are not that good

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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@barren igloo I went w/ a Silverstone ARGB 360mm AIO and paid like $130 for it, I have had no complaints w/ it myself but yes most 360s will run $150-200

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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at least the software is horrible

unique lilyBOT Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Rithvl#5842 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@final crescent yeah I think the artic freezer II is around that too

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and for the price it seems to be the best

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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if given the option yea I would go w/ Arctic Freezer myself but it was not in stock and i needed like asap lol

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yeah I don't need it rn I am just going for aesthetic

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I want the cleanest looking and best setup for my age

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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What case?

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I think Lian li 011

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or something

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let me look

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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K

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Lian Li PC-O11DX\

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Wow very clean case i want one too

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Rn i have a phanteks p300

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I have the deepcool matrexx 55

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rn

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I went w/ the PC-0011DW myself, first white case

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I was more on a budget build last year. I got this computer last christmas

haughty horizon Sep 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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@final crescent how much is it like $99

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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it was $150 at Microcenter

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112583 this is the one I want I think

final crescent Sep 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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same as mine but mine is white, i love my case

barren igloo Sep 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I have my current case on my desk

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so now I am making sure the lian li fits on my desk without problems

raw gull Sep 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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What CPU cooler would you suggest of a Micro ATX build in a "SilverStone Technology SST-SG12B-V2 Micro-ATX Small Form Factor" Case? I'm moving one of my PC's to this so I can take it with me and a portable monitor overseas.

light fog Sep 21, 2020, 2:15 AM

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You guys should buy a chiller.

idle tiger Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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No?

azure crown Sep 21, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Yes.

coral oak Sep 21, 2020, 4:13 AM

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um im getting 9 120 mm fans for a build where would i get a hub for all the fans thats lkke the comamnder pro but for 9 fans ;-;

safe citrus Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 AM

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What size is recommended for the exhaust fan? I have the option of 1 120mm or 1 140mm, i'm going to be building inside of a lian li o11 dynamic XL

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( I already have the radiator fans/side/bottom covered)

simple anchor Sep 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Can I use my Wraith prism on an R7 1700?

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I'm assuming it would be good on it because the 1700 is only rated at 65 TDP

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I don't need the Wraith Prism anymore and my dad wants to upgrade the PC he uses for whatever

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 3:37 PM

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what's a good CPU liquid cooler that can go with a lian li o11 dynamic razer edition?

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@past drum most aios will fit in the o11 dynamic

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so what budget are you working with

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@dull basin well llike a $900-1,000 which is being divided in the case, new motherboard , psu, and rtx 3070

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im just doing upgrades

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i doubt that at 1000 dollars youll be able to get an aio

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oh wait

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upgrades

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still kind of wack

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at most youll be able to get a cheaper aio

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500+100+150+100

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=850

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with that budget something like a nzxt kraken might fit

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or one of corsairs older aios

cold island Sep 21, 2020, 5:17 PM

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or just a arctic ii :P

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 5:17 PM

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yeah

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idk not really a fan of it but it performs well for a budget aio

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm a huge fan of arctic freezer ii

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@dull basin wdym well for a budget aio

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it's the best damn aio on the market afaik

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GN Noise Normalized perf chart:

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the 280mm beats the 360mm x72

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ok TIL that

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@dull basin for rn all I need is the new motherboard(asus tuf gaming x570 plus), cpu cooler, case(lian li o11 razer edition) and 3070 I might get after they restock bc on drop Ik i wont get it.

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3571-arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-cooler-review-benchmark

Arctic Liquid Freezer II Cooler Review: New Best-Performer for CPU ...

Today’s review has been the most-requested review from our commenters for about 6 months now, and it’s not even a piece of silicon. The Arctic Liquid Freezer II series has gotten heavy community interest because of high reported performance in the enthusiast forum userbase. We...

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ok then get the arctic freezer II

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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other coolers only beat it with loud asf full fan speeds

dull basin Sep 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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and listen to Mr1111

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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is it 3 fans

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?

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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📎 5_arctic-liquid-freezer-3950x_100pct.png

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@past drum it has 240mm, 280mm, and 360mm versions

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the 280mm version damn near beats good 360mm aios

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Look at the kraken x72

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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oof

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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full fan speed, 53dba, 360mm

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same temps as 42dba 280mm aio

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I wanna have three fans so I can use all the space the case have

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Freezer ii is just amazing

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I'll link the 360mm version then

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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bet

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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tempoarily out of stock :(
https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186249

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:33 PM

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is actually cheaper than the lian li

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Yes

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dats why freezer ii is literally the best aio on the market imo

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cheap

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effective

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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i will research on it later to get more info on it

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Gamers nexus made an article

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3571-arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-cooler-review-benchmark

Arctic Liquid Freezer II Cooler Review: New Best-Performer for CPU ...

Today’s review has been the most-requested review from our commenters for about 6 months now, and it’s not even a piece of silicon. The Arctic Liquid Freezer II series has gotten heavy community interest because of high reported performance in the enthusiast forum userbase. We...

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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does he has a video? im done with reading thanks to college

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Yes

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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well if he said is that good then that is all I need

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I suggest 1.25x speed

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They didn't have the 360mm in stock, so here was the main review without 360mm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPaSEGe6ML0

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Arctic Liquid Freezer II Cooler Review: New Best CPU Thermals on AM...

Our review and benchmark of the Arctic Liquid Freezer II features tests on the 3950X and 3800X, but also talks VRM thermals and whether the fan is a gimmick or not.
Sponsor: Get 10% off Squarespace purchases (https://geni.us/BqEpf)

Article version of this review: https://www...

▶ Play video

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But they got the 360mm in stock and merged the testing into another video
https://youtu.be/KPLWlkHPlyo

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Best CPU Coolers Deathmatch: Arctic 360 vs. EK AIO 360 Liquid Coole...

After the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 proved to be the best CPU cooler for AMD Ryzen, EK's AIO 360 D-RGB took the crown. Now we're looking at 280 vs. 360mm radiators and the 360 Liquid Freezer II.
Sponsor: Buy Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on Amazon (https://geni.us/1D8Eeq) or...

▶ Play video

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:41 PM

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bc my new set up will end up being ryzen 7 3700x(i already own), 1070ti mini(already own), asus tuf gaming x570 plus, ddr4 16gb ram 3200(already own), cpu liquid cooler, and 600w psu and lian li o11 razer edtion. But since I want to get the 3070 Ik i will need anothe psu but idk how many W i will end up needing.

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Use pcpartpicker.com

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I did and the estimate is 444w but everyone is saying "if u are getting a 3070 u need a 700w or more psu"

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that is what is confusing me at this point

twin urchin Sep 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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they always overestimate the PSU since they can't know what everyone is doing with their system

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is the 444 with the 3070?

simple anchor Sep 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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My Wraith Spire should work even better on a 1700 than on my 2700X right?

twin urchin Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i don't know, does a 1700 put out less heat than a 2700?

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@twin urchin yes the 444 is with the 3070, to be save we can round it to 450 or 500

twin urchin Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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if you go with 650 you have 200w of head room. that should be plenty

past drum Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@twin urchin I think we should move this to #cases-psu-and-cooling lol

twin urchin Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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yes

mossy galleon Sep 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Quick question guys

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Y’all mind hoping over into general voice

low pumice Sep 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@past drum ignore everyone else then