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if it has issues as well, it could be something like the pump not pushing enough voltage out to both fans anymore
Well im not sure i would use the word pushing
if the fans connect directly to the pump, and the pump is starting to have issues, it can manifest with the fans having trouble getting going
but since it seems to be the same fan that has issues, i'm more inclined to think it's the fan itself
Yea
ill go test if its just the fan and if not then ill come back with more info, thank you so much i appreciate it
If you have a multi meter too and your feeling frisky you could also see what voltsge your getting at the fan but its kinda lot of work to do for not a ton of gain
Just US mechanics love our DMMs to help trace issues
Ha, its pretty neat
Yea im pretty positive its the fan, I just watched it as i restarted my pc it starts to spin then stops like it doesn't have enough power to turn on. Ill try replacing it and see if that fixes it
fingers crossed!
If I get the SilverStone CPF04 PWM Fan Hub do I plug my AIO fan and pump into it or do those go straight to the mobo?
well if you dont have anything plugged into the CPU_fan header it will cause the mobo to flip out and throw you a error on boot that you can go past but its annoying. if you plug the PWM 4 pin (2 pins wired) for the silverstone hub into the CPU_fan connector then plug the AIO into that it would bypass the issue
@inland flume
Why
@clever lantern Gib usage plz
Like
You want 120mm aio?
Or you want 120mm fans for rad
pretty sure he needs fans cause thats not a 120mm rad
noctua f12's are nice and quiet fans and are black
Arctic p12s are really good mid end radiator fans
😳 fan tier list
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Yes
No i mean i need like 6 120MM something
For my Table build
And i want to know where i can get a glass cheap for my table.
Neighbors window?
I need 2 fans for my nr600 needs to cool my r5 3600 and 1600super
Case fans?
Yeah
Noctua all the way
Ok can u send link to one you reccomend
Check this out on @Newegg: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 120mm Case Fan
Arctic makes some good cheap ones if you don't have $20 per fan
Check this out on @Newegg: Arctic P14 Value Pack Pressure optimised 140mm Fan 5pack
Solid 5 pack
Noctuca are better to be clear, but it sounds like you be on a budget :)
What y'all think about nzxt Kraken Z73 360mm radiator for a simi overclocked ryzen 9 3900x
@steady aurora 360 mil gigabyte aorus is better
I'd actually go 280mm z63. Same noise normalized perf more or less and cheaper. You barely get any extra actually useable space with going from 280 to 360. Also worth noting that z63/z73 is gen7 Asetek which is speculated to be completely flat coldplate.
true
If I had more money available I'd get an AIO... because a lot of them look really cool.
got a new ryzen 9 setup with a crosshair VII mb...
[5:09 PM]
and a amd radeon 5700xt video card.. i need liquid cooling for them all
[5:09 PM]
got to fit into a coolermaster evo case
Anyone want to recommend me a 3 pack of rgb fans (has to be rgb not argb) that preferably has a remote controller AND can let me plug one more rgb fan into it
noctua chromax
Didn't know noctua made rgb fans
Lemme take a look
Can't find a place to buy em
Got a link? @cold island
Oos till August and not rgb lol
hey no you can have r g b and even y b and w
Lmao
Not quite what I was looking for tho lol
I'm not really finding anything, everything has weird proprietary connections.
Ok I figured out a plan
Wraith prism or a coolermaster hyper 212 rgb?
I saw where they compared the hyper 212 and the stealth and got 10C less
On what sort of load?
No clue
Forgot what game they were playing
But I'm not getting 10C less going from the stealth to my prism
Is it because I have the low setting turned on, on the cooler rather than high
Maybe
It also could have been that they were testing on a full artificial load. Games aren't always very good for thermal benchmarks, since they have a random nature
True
AMD Wraith Stealth Cooler from my Ryzen 5 3600 vs my new Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition.
Cinebench tests with temps.
Game performance analysis and temps.
All footage captured using AMD Relive.
Specs:
-AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ 3.6Ghz / 4.1Ghz (OC)
-MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
...
This is the video I watched 

👏
What is a good cabel with one port going in the Motherboard and two fan ports coming out?
Check this out on @Newegg: Black Net Jacket Sleeved 6 inch 1 to 3 4-pins Molex TX4 CPU 4 Pin PWM Case Cooling Fan Splitter Hub Power Fan-out Adapter Cable https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-003E-00017?Item=9SIACJF85W4796&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIACJF85W4796-_-07242020
One that looks like this that works with RGB fans
I should be able to get rid of the thermal pad from the stock cooler by doing some things for a while and then with rubbing alcohol and paper towels right?
Just got my AIO so just making sure
Nvm I got it
How do I put it on the top of my case?
Do I just screw the bolts in through the fans from and bottom and put it on there?
Or
I need two of them, so the first one is gonna cost me 30, the second one is gonna cost me 60
My question is, are the extra heatpipes really gonna make a big enough difference
I would prefer to save 30 bux, even if I have to deal with like 10C extra
Thas da spirit!
looking for a 2pk or 3pk of case fans, white or black/white, no LEDs. any suggestions?
Arctic p12
Silver stone CPF04 fan controller fine?
I’m in the market for a white 360mm aio. Any ideas?
Can someone help me find out what is the difference between the z73 and x73. Also why does the z73 cost more
z73 has a cooler screen
afaik they both have the same pump you just get the lcd screen on the z73
same gen asetek, just one of them has a screen on the block
What's with the square frame
20$ a fan is decent considering rgb and cm
Your choice then
what would go with?
Hey guys, i have a tt nic c5 that i have been using for my fx-8350... I bought an i5-10600k and i wanted to use the same cpu cooler (i have the brackets) but the contact metal block from the cpu cooler can't reach the cpu because there is this metallic bracket that holds the cpu in place... It seems that the cpu cooler contact metal plate is too big to directly contacts the cpu... Is it normal? Or i'll have to buy a new cooler? Thankss
i'm looking to get some silent fans, my exhaust fan is loud af. Compared to my AIO cooler. any suggestions?
im thinking about looking into water cooling what are some pros and cons and what company makes good water coolers
What does PWM mean?
@topaz blaze If your Looking into Watercooling I suggest Starting off with a AIO. Corsair, NZXT, and Coolermaster make decent ones. Also Depends on What Size you want to go with. Alphacool makes a AIO as well.
Lol
either 360 mm radiator or 280 mm on front
Corsair H100i for 280mm, H150i for 360mm
Nzxt x63/x73 for 280mm, z73 for 360mm iirc
Yeah I was gonna list them all then realized he didnt specify the Size @low pumice So I figured I would put brands there
yea sorry
Its Cool
Recommend me some reliable but cheap all black fans, preferably 120mm
I need to put some fans in my build, i dont have any fans
@rocky nacelle the bracket that holds the CPU on should not be above the level of the top surface of the CPU at any point. If it is, then you haven't installed it properly. Doo you have photos?
p12 @fervent peak
P12?
Perfect
@low pumice x63/z63 is 280mm and x73/z73 is 360. The z means CPU block screen thingy
z stands for zsuper cool screen
@twin urchin i actually looked at it wrongly... It was touching the cpu the whole time, lol... It just feels weird but thankss!!
if i get a smaller radiator and have enough room on the front would i be able to run both on front?
@topaz blaze If your talking 2 120mm RADs then no. I have a 240mm Slot in the top of my case and was going to try that but the screw holes wont line up
trying to resurrect an old corsair H100i v2, but don't have the corsair link cable it came with, which is just a mini usb to usb 2.0 internal header. does anyone know if you absolutely need the 9 pin internal header connection? or will a mini-usb to 5 pin internal header cable work?
from what i can see in pictures, they both have the same wiring to the internal header, one is just a mostly empty 9 pin vs a 5 pin, but i can't find anything documented as to if there's an actual difference or not
anidees Graphic Card Cooler 3 x80mm PWM Fan, Support ASUS Aura SYNC/MSI Mystic Sync/ASROCK Aura RGB/GIGABYTE RGB Fusion (5V 3 Pin Addressable headers ONLY) PCI Mount Bracket with Remote- AI-GP-CL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y6CY6GL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_a8riFbCX1T2Q6
Gimmick or no?
Do you have sli?
Ya
hmm which cards?
probably not worth it for a single card
Ok thx
Any suggestions on cheaper RGB fans?
Ezdiy or upHere
5 pack of them is like $45 - $50
There's a set of Ezdiy fans I'm probably going to get. Half thinking I should order 'em now while they're in stock.
I looked into upHere, they look decent
I just bought a pack of antec ones. They're relatively quiet and have a daisy chain rgb system which is kinda cool
yeesh... don't use the preapplied paste on the wraith prism lol
that is horrible coverage
decided I needed my mx-4 after seeing it hit 97C in prime95 small ffts, but didn't think this nightmare was awaiting me
mx-4 dropped idle temp by 25C
lol me too
like how it works or wat
No I know how it works
I just don’t know which ones are good or not
I know the bigger the radiator usually the better the cooling, but then some 240mm radiator coolers do better than some 360mm coolers in some tests? It confuses me
oh basically
the best coolers for the price are the EVGA CLC,Arctic Liquid Freezer II and the ThermalTake FLOE
but i only recommend them if people request them
but i still try to convince them to get air cooling
How come air cooling over aio for you?
ok just because for the value
and im researching something that basically prooves why water cooling isnt effective on ryzen
im still doing the complicated maths for it
I beg to differ on that one. I have a Ryzen 5 2600X and have better temps on Water than I did on AIR
@spark scarab what cooler did u have before and aio u have now
when im talking temps i always compare the higher end air coolers and not the cheap ones like the Esports E34 or etc
I had the Air Cooler that came with the cpu and dont use a AIO. I built my loop myself. Just recently went froma 120mm RAd toa 240mm and when i switched to the 240mm I seen a 15 degree drop in my temps
im always comparing to a somethings like the NHD-15,DRP4 TR Macho Scythe fuma 2 and countless more
I had the Air Cooler that came with the cpu and dont use a AIO. I built my loop myself. Just recently went froma 120mm RAd toa 240mm and when i switched to the 240mm I seen a 15 degree drop in my temps
@spark scarab well a custom loop is different from a regular AIO
Frp, wjat Ive seen though 240mm RAD AIO works well with Ryzen. the 120mms are basically the same as air cooling
the 120mm are not the same as aircooling
dont compare a 240 to a cheap air cooler @spark scarab
Thats not what I said
air cooling can get amazing results that a 240mm aio wont get on ryzen
if ur gonna compare something like a 240 or 280mm compare them to the high end coolers
a 120mm AIO has the same efficiency as a Air Cooler. I didnt name any brands or anything
i never recommend 120mm aios theyre a waste of monety
id rather recommend a air cooler over a 120
120mm aios are found for the same price as air coolers that can do more
higher end air coolers
Oh Im sure. Yet there are gonna be those people that are dead set on watercooling
air performs about the same so sure
until you show them temps
like i really rarely advise people from water cooling
imagine paying for a 120 usd aio when u can get about the same temps with a DRP4 or an NHD15
360mm for that price. What the heck
@severe temple Amazon???
@spark scarab New Egg
@spark scarab they make 240 around 80
@severe temple thats a good price for that cooler
Dunno how well they work tho
Doesn't look great
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/id_cooling-auraflow-x_240-cpu-cooler,6153-2.html
@low pumice they actuall are decent for the price
its a decent aio but the temps arent that good but its fine for the price
Well
Arctic freezer ii exists
And that is one of the best AIOs you can get
100$ price range
So I'd rather not rely on a badly performing aio from a company I don't trust
Even the crappy cm aio beats it
you could get deepcool
i need a couple cheapo fans to replace the one that decided to yeet itself from my case, are the cm sickleflow v2 good?
360ZoomFlow can be had for relatively same price as pictured above
Guess not
can JRGB pins on the mobo be used for rgb fans
never heard of it
Neither have I
does anyone know if the nzxt kraken lineup if all sizes has the custom lcd screens?
nvm found my answer
any coolers with a customizable lcd screen??
nzxt kraken x52, x63, and etc.
nahh
@shrewd flare
just the z versions have the fully customizable to put ur own image on there
thats what i want
:v then theres ur answer
@onyx reef @rugged nimbus @limpid musk personally i'm using b450m bazooka wifi max but theres a JRGB1 and JRGB2 pin in the bottom left and top right corner of my mobo and i was just wondering what thats for
i could pm a picture
can anyone find what fans these are?
MUSETEX Phantom Black ATX Mid-Tower Desktop Computer Gaming Case USB 3.0 Ports Tempered Glass Windows with 6pcs 120mm LED RGB Fans Pre-Installed(903-S6) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MDFYW3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_djejFbVZ53XHX
No idea
thank you
@tender leaf those are RGB or ARGB headers for rgb lighting. Your manual should tell you which.
@twin urchin thanks, just wanted to make sure because i couldn't find any youtube videos or web guides
how would I control the color when i plug the fan into the header
@tender leaf Usually with Software that is provided by the Motherboard Manufacturer
I'm planning on getting an exhaust fan to add to the back of my case, (corsair 220t) but there are no slots left for fans on the motherboard (asus prime x570-p) where do I plug them in?
The lightning node pro that comes with the 220t in the back?
In the 4th slot?
(The other 3 are taken by the case fans)
Okay
so you'd probably need to pick up a cheap splitter on amazon or something
This is my first build so forgive me
that will let you run 2 fans off a single header from the board
That won't cause problems?
nope
if they're PWM fans, you can get a PWM splitter (PWM is 4 pins on the fan connector)
if they're 3 pin, which is DC, you can use either a 3 pin splitter or a 4 pin
that's fine, the main difference is how the system can control fan speed
will work
just line up the 3 pin connector on the fans with the tab on the splitters
and then plug the single end into the board
Okay
and you're good to go
Thanks again
👍
does anyone know a good aio with a gif screen
z63 is always sold out and i need options
Lmao I'm looking for the same thing @strange sparrow
I think the aorus one has the same kinda thing
Not completely sure tho
@onyx reef mmmm ok ok i like ur pfp btw 🙂
Thx
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YZ26VVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_ccqjFbKFH6MER
GIGABYTE AORUS RGB AIO Liquid Cooler 360, 360mm Radiator, Triple 120mm Windforce PWM Fans, Customizable Full Color LCD Display, Advanced RGB Lighting and Control, Intel 115X/2066, AMD AM4, TR4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YZ26VVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_ccqjFbKFH6MER
SAME
here
It's either I do that or I put a mini lcd screen
Is liquid cooling worth it
Sometimes
Like if you’re doing heavy overclocking
Or if you really want the looks of a liquid cooler
But air cooling can be better and/or cheaper sometimes
i just wanna know for anyone who has custom liquid cooling how;s the thermals
like comparitive to aios and stuff, is it really that much better
for thermals?
Depends on a bunch of stuff but I get mid-40s in everyday non-gaming usage
W/ a Corsair HydroX loop
id say it all depends on what youre doing but if you dont plan on doing oc or light oc, its really not worth it
Stress brings me to mid 80s
what cpu
^ in the name
i get to high 70s with a 3600x
oh
yeah that would make sense
ok so its decent for cooling
but not the best
It's nice, but an AIO or air cooler isn't that much worse and cost so much less
yeah
Like my loop is $900 new and a great Noctuca cooler is $120
Yeah, I really indulged myself lol
l00p
Reason: Duplicated text
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What components are in the loop, what clocks they are running, amount of power they are pulling, the TIM used, if Intel is it direct die, noise of fans/pump, rad dimensions and FPI, speed of pump and fans as well as quality, case airflow, whether the rads have good access to airflow (example: putting a rad in the front of an NZXT H510 where airflow is very limited), and so forth
@empty hazel those are some things that need to be considered with AIO vs custom loops. Can't be said in just one number
Prices
I mean, Bykski isnt all that more then good AIOs iirc
Also Hei what's the other cheap kit that wasn't bykski? bykski shipping is like 120$ now
Barrow
True, but you get a GPU block with it too
Could look for different seller too
I know Formulamod has their own site too
Or use Bykski's own site
US site
wait so barrow made that wheel case?
hmm a bit expensive to buy straight from bykski it seems
50$ cpu block 130$ gpu block 60$ rad 100$ pump res
plus like 50$ in fittings and tube
then case fans
thats gonna be like 400$
might as well buy from aliexpress with the 200$ + 100$ shipping
@low pumice idk shipping cuz too lazy to make account, but $247 base price for bit here
https://www.formulamod.com/bykski-b-ads-kit-rbw-5v-3pin-soft-tube-program-kits-multiple-programs-for-intelamd-cooling-kit-beginner-and-advance-level-kit-p2580081.html
Shows how much money companies like corsair and ek make on their kits...
yeah. But Bykski still isnt best quality tho. With having the kit in my hands I do notice that the fin density on the blocks isnt as high as what Ive seen elsewhere. But they def still are making some decent profit
@maiden delta lol, the bottom one. Shipping to Canada rn. Not too horrible for the former one, Ali use to be 75 USD iirc before Human Malware
also wrong ping Egg, sorry. @low pumice
No worries
alright
ye, US shipping is bad for Formula mod site. $150 USD
basically same as ali eh
@onyx reef can you put gifs on that one sorry for late response i was working today
No clue
I couldn't find enough information but apparently you can based on what I've read @strange sparrow
mmmmm ok ok okkkk
hopefully you can
tryna build a bunny girl build 🥰 so i need a aio with a gif
Yeah I don't like the nzxt lineup cause the other fans aren't rgb
Custom image but not gif @strange sparrow
Pain
How much heat do you think the Corsair H150i can dissipate?
i recommend it though you could probably find a better cooler for around the same price or cheaper
Ah ok cool, do you know of any that would be better? I don’t necessarily have to go cheap
mugen 5 rev b is pretty good
ID-COOLING ZOOMFLOW 360X Snow CPU Water Cooler 5V Addressable RGB AIO Cooler 360mm CPU Liquid Cooler 3X120mm RGB Fan, Intel 115X/2066, AMD TR4/AM4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084GLC73J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eoVjFbY388VGF
This one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084GKZVBX/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_JoVjFbT47WE9J
ID-COOLING AURAFLOW X 240 Snow CPU Water Cooler 12V RGB AIO Cooler 240mm CPU Liquid Cooler 2X120mm RGB Fan, Intel 115X/2066, AMD TR4/AM4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084GKZVBX/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_JoVjFbT47WE9J
Or this one
CORSAIR iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT, 360mm Radiator, Triple 120mm PWM Fans, Advanced RGB Lighting and Fan Control with Software, Liquid CPU Cooler https://www.newegg.com/corsair-icue-h150i-rgb-pro-xt-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181192?Item=N82E16835181192&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-35-181-192-_-08022020
How far can this take an i9-9900k on overclocking?
Like on an average chip not the good ones
Everything depends on the specific chip
We can't predict that stuff
That's the fun in #overclocking
Are case fans and radiator fans interchangeable or is there some reason they should not be?
Hey guys! This is my first build. Cooling seems fine but I just want to make this cooling system as best I can. The yellow circles are where I have fans and they’re all blowing air in. All are 120mm
Is it possible to add a smaller fan below the gpu in that red square?
what’s the size of the hole there?
thats good for temps and ya u would need to drill holes in there
Are case fans and radiator fans interchangeable or is there some reason they should not be?
@floral mango they are interchangeable
Just make sure their correct type like 140mm fan for 140mm slot
Is about 42.5C idle good for a non-stock cooler?
love the trash Intel TIM on older Intel CPUs. Have my 6700k be doing 20% or so of usage while GPU is at 100% usage pulling 520w or so of power into my custom loop (XOC vBIOS so no PL), Intel CPU overheats at 100c while GPU be at 65c - 70c.
Cant wait to move over to a new CPU, probs AMD, so my CPU doesnt overheat from bad TIM. Delid or direct die seem kinda eh for a solution when Im going to replace it soon
would yall go with a 360mm aio over a 240mm and why?
Noctgua U12 A
idk, if Intel just stuck with solder then I wouldnt see what is apparently a 30c delta from standard TIM - LM
@onyx reef I'd generally say 280mm if you really want AIO. Cheaper then 360 and basically same noise normalized perf
but also, a good air cooler is usually a better option for getting budget noise normalized perf
as air noise normalized is about same as liquid noise normalized for CPU
i dont like the bulkiness of the air coolers
i was gonna get the nzxt z series
but thats like $400 rn
so like
no
ya but wayyy op
i am lmao
a little rasberry pi screen
well a pretty big one tbh
about 7"
which is way bigger than aio one
tho if you want the cheap decent stuff, here
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a
well liked that screen lmao
to match the case
would i be better with a black one?]
bcuz i've seen that they are cheaper
but the whites in my case kinda reflect the light well
imo
I mean, white ones are pricier and idk quality of them
i've just been looking at amazons best sellers
bcuz i was just going to put three fans instead
but i want some real nice temps on my cpu
i currently have a wraith prism on my 3600
but its not a whole lot of a difference
why not spend an extra $130 on a 3700x with selling the 3600?
That's also why I dislike AIOs
yeah the 3600x usually gets a lot hotter than the regular 3600
find any lcd screen aios? @onyx reef
who cares whether your temps are 68c or 80c? Perf is the same
well i dont need all that extra performance lmao
12c is a p big difference but it depends on what you do on ur rig
just gaming
even with GPU boost, that's only like 25MHz more
and some streaming in the future
CPU is basically nothing in terms of boost
i mean i have a 3600 it’s perfect for streams and games
what yall think of this cooler?
1080p
it looks ugly
about 5x overpriced
yeah it’s not my style but
and ya
whatever cools ur cpu
im running 1440p everything rn max specs
it’s all about performance over aesthetics
yeah you have to lower it a little it’s a better stream for viewers
$22 CPU Cooler + 5 RGB fans for $45
i dont necessarily save money
yeah honestly
whenever i get that check it’s like
lemme splurge rq
kinda irresponsible ;-;
i'm sitting on 3 rn
but i’m 16 so i mean
well i save money but like
i don’t got bills lmao
@strange sparrow and you're gonna have to spend a whole lot for Uni/College
i got bills
most likely
i’m going to community
save money or invest it and ya profit later on
those top 2
and it’s pretty far away from now
they’re both nice but are they gonna preform well
thats crazy
maybe leak?
you gotta take it into consideration
msi makes cpu coolers?
LMAO
Reason: Bad word usage
they've got some high reviews on all of them
amazon reviews mean nothing man
ya ik
i almost bought a x63 cuz they advertised it as a z63
Amazon reviews also group different models together
ya idk man
Like iirc I was seeing reviews for the td500 og when on the td500 mesh listing
yeah it’s kinda boof
wtf is this
what the
Talking about just a 280mm rad max on top even though the td500 mesh has 360mm on top
that’s a whole engine my man
lian li is releasing one in the next week
Oh looks neat
and its white
so much pain
why it look like that
is a 650w psu enough for an overclock cpu and watercooling im new to this stuff
liquid cooling ^
Depends on CPU and GPU and everything else
is pcpart picker accurate
@red stone mostly besides Best Buy being in stock
@cold island and what about the wattage on the site
decent but this one is really nice https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
Will a Noctua NH-U9S cool a 10700k?
Can someone point me in the right direction for a replacement fan to fit a Dell XPS 8920 Silver Edition CPU?
I'd like to upgrade from the factory fan with a "plug-in-play" replacement & no modifications
Anybody? lol
@pseudo jetty do you know what cpu?
My fan works, I just know my CPU runs hotter than normal, due these Slimmer Dell XPS cases, so I was wondering if there was a better fan out there, than the factory one.
Okay give me a second to look some stuff up
Thank you 🙂
Check this out on @Newegg: Noctua NH-L9i 92mm SSO2 CPU Cooler
@pseudo jetty if it’s the i7 7700 this should fit
Hey @sturdy warren do you know if there is also an upgrade to the "top case" fan? If I'm going to do 1x, might as well do the other while I'm at it
@pseudo jetty Is your Dell XPS from 2016 or 2020?
ok so from what i can tell, the top fan is a power supply fan
but if the fan you are talking about has screws, that means that you can probably remove it
now idk if you know how to remove it, but once you unscrew the fan, make sure to unplug it from the motherboard
yeah im pretty sure that both the front and the sides are part of the power supply, but if you do happen to find a removable fan, measure out the dimensions
most are 120 or 140 mm, so you can remove the one that comes with the XPS and slot in a noctua 120. I can't post links in this server for some reason, so just go to amazon or newegg and look up "noctua 120mm". Just buy the cheapest one you can find, a core i5 shouldn't produce that much heat
I hope this helps!
@empty hazel I bought my XPS 8920 in late 2017, early 2018. It's the Silver Case model, i7-7700. The top case fan is the fan in the back of the case, pulling heat out the top of the case, located just above the processor fan. I've read that the fan is replaceable & was looking to see if there is a better one than factory, as my temps seem to run a bit higher in this "compact" Dell case
142 136 136 136 are my current temps under very little load
I really wish ThermalTake would get it's act together with these fan controllers.
Is TT going to release any new RGB fan controllers any time soon?
@pseudo jetty are those in farenheit or celcius? Also, seeing as you have a detachatble fan, do you have specs for the fan? Most fans should be good enough to handle the load, although the i7 7700 is a pretty toasty chip
but then again, you could probably just get a noctua fan given that the fan has a standard measurement
Unfortunately, I don't have the specs to the fan & yes, Farenheit
I'm just starting to get into "computer" components, so I'm still learning and trying to figure out the fan. Knowing my temp is a bit higher than it should be, that is why I wanted to work on a little better cooling system without breaking the bank or getting "too involved" in changing it out.
Ok geez that is NOT GOOD
your temps are WAY TOO HIGH
like my temps under full load are about 70c and yours idle are 60
thats not
good
Definitely get the noctua cpu fan
also use a high quality thermal paste
Yeah, these Dell Mini cases are kind of known for running hot
you could use the EVGA frostbite 2, or IC Diamond thermal compound
after that replacement, you should see a large improvement in temps
I'd start with that, and once youve replaced it, tell me about the temps after
I figured while I replace the processor fan, I would replace the top case fan too, since I could do it all at once, instead of separately
yeah you could definitely do that so just measure the fan in millimeters
cool - wish there was an easier way to find a replacement fan. LOL
i mean its pretty easy to do it but because its a prebuilt, there isn't like a spec sheet so you can find the dimensions of every fan in the system
usually its really easy to replace tho
true but using a dell prebuilt i dont think that there are that many different curves
I think even with a cheaper replacement fan, it will do better than the factory & even if I can drop 10-15 degrees, that's a huge win for these compact Dell cases.
Go with a High Static Pressure Fan that should help
yeah you could defniitely do that
Doubt it. Not unless the fan is larger (140mm vs 92mm). Only real help replacing would do is noise
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That's replacing the actual cooler, not the fan itself
Cooler replacement can help, fan replacement will do small differences in temp
I don't mind replacing both (cooler & fan) if I can get better temps & it's more of a "plug-n-play" set up, where i don't have to modify my case or anything
yeah honestly i dont think you need a new exhaust fan, just keep it clean. but defintely swap out your cpu fan tho
Depends on the type of fan. I have one that is designed for use in manufacturing equipment and has a high RPM. Its a 2 wire and I could wire it to a fan header that plugs into my fan speed controler
Its a 120mm
Unless you're like 1.6x the RPM from the previous one or smth, temps will barely change. Tho at that point it could be quite loud
Thanks guys for all the help, it's so highly appreciated. I'm going to be changing the HDD to SSD in the next few days too. I've been reading that I need to disable the Intel Optane chip before I do this & that I shouldn't need to turn it back on either, after I do this
you don't need to disable anything for a clone, as long as the ssd has the same or more capacity than the hard drive
if it doesn't, then you can unpartition some data until it fits
that can be done in disk management, and you can definitely ffind guides on yt for how to do it
Is Masterliquid 120ml good for a begging pc ?
tbh i wouldnt use a 120mm aio as theyre not even better than a solid air cooler
@magic sparrow Yeah Its like a 5000rpm fan. Fan Noise Doesnt bother me any
posting this here but um: so i bought a corsair 570x case and i'll be using a ryzen 7 3700x and an msi mag x570 tomahawk and a rtx 2070 super will i need to add more case fans or will i be fine without more fans i'm new to building gaming PCs
the stock fans that come with the case
2/3 intake 1 exhaust is all you need for a conventional setup
Anything above that has diminishing returns
Unless you just want more shiny RGB fans for looks.
@pure dagger im in the same predicament
Gotcha yeah, I just dont know because I want good cooling, but also the idea of leaks terrify me
(Copy and pasted) Hello peeps im new to the server, but i had a question. I plan on getting a 5 3600 (like most) but I dont know whether to get an aftermarket cooler or an AIO. I'm a bit spooked of AIOs because water/coolant in a PC with my luck seems like it could ruin everything so I'm hesitant but also I want to make sure cooling is not an issue. Any suggestions? Thank you
Aftermarket air coolers and AIOs have similar cooling performance
Linus and other people have tested this
air coolers can outperform AIOs based on their tests
It's down to looks and cost in this case
Mr doesn't read manuals: 2/3 intake 1 exhaust is all you need for a conventional setup
so my 6 intake and 6 exhaust is too much??
yea that’s pretty overkill
@pseudo jetty sorry I never responded. My phone died.
@calm turtle there is never too much airflow, but above like 4 fans you get dimishing returns for every extra fan
Has anybody used a cooler master master liquid ml240l?
I've heard it's quite a bang for it's buck but I really don't want to risk my 80 $ on a water cooler if an air cooler could be better.
@low pumice there is too much once you get turbulence
I mean I don't think 6 fans is enough for that but it's true
Full fan config can do that fairly easily on cases afaik. Affects noise normalized perf a small bit
Thank you @fluid lichen
is it bad if i have my radiator mounted in the front pulling the hot air into my case
Yes and No. Depends on how the air is flowing through the case itself. @clear tangle
@spark scarab k say i have a 2fan radiator on the front pulling air in and 2 fans in the back as exaust
Should be fine then. Since your puling it back out but at the same time adding heat to the VRM and the RAM sticks
Watch the temps on the VRMs and the RAM modules if you can
@clear tangle If you can put another fan either a 80,, or 120mm Pulling cold air in from either the topo of the case or the bottom of the case to help lower the internal temps
what are some good cheap air coolers for like a 3600
for the sake of not using the stock cooler
depends on what you find wrong with the stock cooler
because its probably not thermals
how do i change the color with my corsair fan with icue when it says no device detected
Sounds Like its a driver issue to me
i personally dont find anything wrong with it, but my friend who im building it for doesnt wanna use stock cooler

i cant convince him otherwise
What case?
the higher end stock AMD cooler is actually quite nice
The Wraith Spire with the RGB LED ring is a very Nice Cooler
Yes that one
That doesn't come with 3600 though
which is just silly
3600 doesn't need it.
If the case fits it, the d15s is good
Should still be the smaller one
Ah another newbie question: Is it enough to have just the included 2 case fans and an aftermarket cooler or should I have basically 2 input fans, an aftermarket cooler and 2 output fans?
It's really hot rn here in North Baguette Land. I am considering getting a desk fan, but the ones I've looked at seem to be pretty loud. I'm very sensible to noise, so I was thinking maybe I could get a quiet 140mm pc fan and DIY a desk fan from it.
How viable would that be? I found a Silent Wings 2 for 10€, so I'd use that.
be quiet! fans are really quiet but theyre also decently expensive. if youre trying to get max cooling for a budget i’d get a bunch of cheaper fans and just run them at lower rpm
I know there are lots of tutorials out there on doing it-mainly wondering how quiet it will be/how well it can cool humans.
For cooling my room/me?
haha lol
personally i use a big fan on a stand and just put it across the room
I do have what you suggested on my PC, works pretty well. But this onr is for me.
I did a triple 120mm Setup last year that I could put in a window on a power supply that had the right type of connector to screw the wires down to after clipping the 3 pin connectors off. Worked really well honestly. It was one of those multi voltage power supplies where I could set the voltage
Any recommended coolers for a i5-6400 or do I even need one
I'll let you know in a few days when I drop in an i5-6500 in a flip build and use the stock cooler lol
In the meantime, I'm pretty happy with how my non-TR specific aio block is keeping my 1920x at like 38-40c idle, and at like 65-67 under full load
Ooo
I am worried about my new build because last time I checked the CPU temperature it was at 50c while playing perfect world international and I am not sure if that is ok
I noticed it was getting hot because I heard the fan changing speed
What is the hottest temperature to run a cup? Btw at that time there was no AC turn on and the room was pretty hot
Oh 80c seriously?
I was worried was planning to crack up the fans today
Technically they can run up to 100c, but if you're seeing high 80s or low 90s you want to do something about it
Are you sure is 80c and not 80f?
Dang good news then
I have ryzzen 5 2600
With stock fan
And heatsink
And only 2 120mm fans for intake and exhaust
AMD is listing max temp as 95, but you can technically go a bit above that for short amounts of time
2 fans should be fine for that CPU
I have a 2700x with a two fan setup, haven't seen it break 80
Is there a program that let me see in real time the temp of the cpu?
You on windows?
Yes
hwmonitor is a good one then
Where you download it from?
Let me find it
I hate how windows makes you do this
I don't know if it is important but I am using a gigabyte mobo AORUS B450 PRO WIFI
It'll work with that
Man THANKS A LOT I am loving this community
Very helpful for me a rusty PC technician.

What's going on with ekfluid gaming?? Are they going out of business? and how?
I was about to buy my cooling
Yummy
thicc perf
Nice
Fun dumb stories from me, again.
This time, I'm topping up my loop. My reservoir is usually what I use to fill/drain my loop. My res is at the bottom so dealing with air bubbles isn't too fun when filling. I usually fill from the top of the res but the thing is that the top of the res has a tube going down a bit from that port, so when I attempt to top it off I can't as I can't fill past that tube using that port. Of course I have an exahst from the loop going into the top side where that deadzone of water is. So when I turn off my PC the water levels out and air can get into the tubing. Looked eh, if I made sure all air was in the res it'd actually end up escaping into the rads after turn off. So anyways, getting past this issue resulted me in turning the res to its side that I don't usually have access to so I can get to another side port where there isn't any weird tubing causing air gaps when filling. This also meant that the res was above my mobo now. I also didn't have any molex/SATA to 4 pin PWM so I could run the pump by itself with the PC off on hand either. Meaning PC was on. Turing filling it I spilt some on the mobo. Turned off the PC and dried it up. Had to take mobo out of case (which also meant removing most of the loop, soft tubing tho so not super hard but still more annoying) cuz the screws to the chipset heatsink was on the back of the board. Which was a place I also had to dry up. Anyways fast forward some fair time and I boot it up to see it working fine. Def made me stay up a lot later than I intended to tho.
Also enjoy wall of text
nothing compared to my vr rants lol.
someone asked what headset to buy and i typed out over two full discord messages (2000 characters)
I mean am on mobile. Takes a lot of screen space
Do you guys think that the kraken z73 will work with future AMD processors?
There will almost certainly be adapters
^
Sweet, was kinda worried it would be OOS for a long time so I’d rush bought the cooler
they sell well 
AIO = only needed IF you either are using a very limited (space wise) case OR have a machine in a enviroment where it is needed OR you are overclocking beyond what a aircooler can handle. In all other situations, its a very expensive cooler for what it brings to the table @onyx reef
mind, that is from a performance pov.
IF you want a AIO because you want to make a water cooled machine. Obviously, it makes sense. But (if none of the previous situations apply) that is just a visual choice.
i want it both for the aesthetic and i dont like the idea of a really beefy cooler that looks nice hanging off of my cpu
@burnt goblet im trying to find a white one but i looked for some on amazon with good reviews but people in the discord were telling my not to trust them cuz most of them are bots
I live in south tx so its pretty spicy here throughout most of the year
^
reviews on sites you buy from are close to 100% useless
anandtech and tweaktown have a bunch of cooler reviews iirc
dont think Anandtech has that many modern cooler reviews
but again, its a place to start :)
true
well steve did a review on one from the same company just 240mm no 360mm
and based on what i remember he said they perform just like any other aio
i need rgb and white cuz im a gamer 
nah, you want it
it'll increase my gaming performance by at least 5%
must resist silly jokes
not for the actual pc lmaop
*lmao
but for me 
my senses are enhanced
the thing is
its not a joke
anyway
i found a review from 2 years ago
on toms hardware
they said you sacrifice a couple of degrees to save some money
I just need something to be better than my wraith prism
that lights up
and is also white
any suggestions 
Does the Ryzen 5 3600 have temp problems? Mine idles at about 40c - 45c (Ambient 26c). I have the stock cooler and I changed the paste twice. What seems the problem?
stock coolers arent that great lol, but so long as youre never going above 90 youre good
also
the cooler on the 3600 is kinda small
iirc
Yeah I tried Cinebench r20 and it reached 88c
yup
youre good
and nothing will really make it run as hot as cinebench does
probably
except for FoH... but that thing destroys pcs lol.
so anyways
youre good to go
dont worry about it
how much do yall think i should charge someone to build a custom water loop with cpu and gpu
cost of loop + $200
@viral fjord could go Bykski/Barrow loop then add like 350 to it or smth and profit like crazy while they look at you like they profited from the "low" price for the custom loop (taking advantage of the fact Bykski/Barrow is super cheap compared to brand companies)
they ended up wanting AIOs instead after they heard that maintenance exists
Is this the right way?
I’m done 😂😂
When you add a 1 1/2 motor to do a 5hp motors work you gotta get creative 🙃
Seeing as the box fan has no way to pul air into it its not being very effective being right next to the wall
It actually moves a fair amount of air. And it made the system work. It was just a test that will become permanent now
Only thing is the fan is working harder than it has to with being right next to the wall like that. If it was moved off the wall by say an inch It would move more air and much more effectively
Does the larger motor run at the same rpm? If so it probably runs cooler.
Induction motors do be like that.
Idk. I’ll actually just mount a fan on the ceiling (rafters) now and blow straight down. It should get proper ventilation and get the air where it needs to be.
Hope I am in the right section for the question.
Someone may help. You might want to try the pc case section
ok , thanks. I will delete this one so it won't be double posted.
What sort of thermal paste should I use with a Thermaltake 3-fan AIO and Ryzen 3900XT? Conductonaut? Arctic Silver?
Would it help to use conductonaut?
oh cool, I was told by TT that the water block doesn't have any aluminum in it, but I see these screws and I wonder if they'll have a bad interaction with the conductonaut.
Just installed one yesterday lol. What's the question?
I just purchased this cooler: https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-rgb-black-edition-rr-212s-20pc-r1/p/N82E16835103277
I was curious where I could find the matching 120mm RGB fan
thank you!
Reason: Bad word usage
I have a corsair ll120 fan but no lightning node pro. Do I need that to control RGB or can I just use the fan hub you can get from Corsair for $10?
-45c chiller is almost finished
@river aspen Holy Crap is that loud
Wouldn’t the pro gamer move be to plumb straight into the house AC.
Hehe. Now Thats a Idea. Tap Into the Central AC Unit
i need a cooler for my i3-8100 ik ik its an i3 but still i cant use the stock cooler anymore
What's ur budget for a new cooler @rigid oxide
idk maybe 150 max
Zalman's coolers work really well.
cnps20x?
It's just another d15
slightly better
I wouldn't spend that much on a cooler for a 8100 lol
Yeah, 65W TDP
ya just get like a $300 cooler
i thought rule of thumb was to plum the cold line of your AC system for your house onto a block for your PC
Does that cost twice as much as your CPU ore more?
GPU coolers should be 100x more than their card
does that tube work well
hmm, it would probably be like 300 bucks on copper piping not counting the way to block it so it doesnt freeze or over condense
is that for LN?
on a gpu
lol interesting idea
Cnps9900df
@low pumice im gonna upgrade to an i5 in the future but i wanna gets better cooler for rn
Never paid that much for my Zalman coolers
a quick question, i have a i9 9900k which im fitting next week in a new build, i have a nzxt 140 mm cooler , would i be better with a 280mm or 360mm and what is good
Arctic freezer II
ok thanks- cheaper ?
Should be 115$ for 280mm
at last something cheaper in the uk
Building my first pc rn... have an deepcool 360EX AIO but when i put the standoffs on my mother board they can move up and down...
Someone help me!!!
Yes
what do the motherboard standoffs have to do with anything
msi b550 gaming carbon wifi
Are they supposed to be able to move up and down?
(Aio mounting screw things)
up and down parallel to the motherboard, or perpendicular?
Perpendicular
does the aio block use the mobo cooler backplate or does the cooler come with one?
the board comes with two black plastic pieces screwed to a backplate
there is this thing under the cpu
and i screwed the mounting aio screws onto that
And now they are moving perpendicular
ok, does that thing under the cpu come off?
Yes
did the aio come with something similar?
No
ok
the cooler is designed to work with amd and intel sockets, make sure you are using the amd set, not the intel set
Yes i am using the amd set 100%
ok
is it the new or the old 360EX?
theres one that looks cylindrical, and one thats a cube
for the pump/cpu block
yep that one
First one
so idk why the mount is loose, but try going over the manual and make sure you didnt miss anything
idk how this coolers mounting mechanism works, so i cant really ask much more
Ok
Is this where I can find assistance on getting a new cpu cooler?
Sure, what do you need?
lol
Yea
or type more
cant send any link to newegg in a newegg discord?
www.newegg.com doesn't get deleted
kk
It's to stop people spamming random links
until level 3

