#old-cooling | Newegg | Page 34

topaz blaze Dec 29, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Or post a picture

kind apex Dec 29, 2019, 8:55 PM

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thermaltake cooler maybe?

rain pumice Dec 29, 2019, 8:55 PM

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don't know how to post a picture, or link it,,,, but it's a pre-built Skytech with a 240mm liquid cooled system

knotty eagle Dec 29, 2019, 8:57 PM

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The other simpler option is to get one with a good air cooler

kind apex Dec 29, 2019, 8:57 PM

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lol their website specifications page :
CPU Cooler : 240mm AIO

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so specific.....

rain pumice Dec 29, 2019, 8:59 PM

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i'll try the website {again} --- thanks for your help and patience

knotty eagle Dec 29, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Welcome! I have honestly never heard of a water cooler freezing

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And I honestly can't see it happen if it's inside a house

kind apex Dec 29, 2019, 9:07 PM

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sounds very improbable

magic sparrow Dec 29, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Well it can happen if you're in a cold area with no heating at all for a few days

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Which is what the guy just said, potentially losing power for a few days

kind apex Dec 29, 2019, 9:09 PM

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It would have to be in an ambient temp of below 8 F for a while

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shouldnt get that cold in a house even if power is lost for days

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insulation and all

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I lost power for a week once below 0 F outside never got below 30 F in the house

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now if you leave it outside or the aio was on a truck stuck in a blizzard.... I could see it

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basically I'm saying unless all the water pipes froze and burst in the house the aio in the pc should be fine

pale plover Dec 30, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Hey, do you think a 360 or 240 aio will fit? Recommend a cooler for me, and i do leave my pc on a lot. (I7-9700k) and yes, i realize that my fans are not the right way.

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I left my pc on with a game open, only with a 120 aio..... i saw it hit 100c after i left it on for an hour

merry crown Dec 30, 2019, 5:40 AM

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@pale plover from that image why are you blocking the airflow?

pale plover Dec 30, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Im not

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Its just the angle

coarse hatch Dec 30, 2019, 1:26 PM

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@pale plover you should not be hitting 100c with an aio

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did you put on thermal paste

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also i think your fans are backwards

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they should be pulling air not pushing

pallid kindle Dec 30, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Yeah he said they aren’t properly installed

coarse hatch Dec 30, 2019, 3:03 PM

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oh

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well knowing that why would he not fix them

pallid kindle Dec 30, 2019, 3:08 PM

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I don’t really know actually lol

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I would fix them that would make the pc a lil cooler at least

coarse hatch Dec 30, 2019, 3:25 PM

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also how do you achieve 100c on a cpu with an aio

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 3:39 PM

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leaving the plastic shield on the heatsink

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no, that is not a joke

stoic yacht Dec 30, 2019, 3:46 PM

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@wet bramble Thank you for the feed back. I am crunching very large data files through different comparative algorithms. A single calculation on a 6 core system can take 15 minutes to complete. Then the system is idle for just as long as I compose the next formula. So I am building a 10 or 12 core box in the hope of reducing my wait time. According to Intel, air alone can do the job, but I suspect liquid will be more reliable, and the environment is not climate controlled. In 1999, when I had a similar challenge, I found the gamming and porn industries were way ahead of the classical business sector for computer clustering, cooling, and the like. Hence I am reaching out to the forums. If this changes your thoughts, please advise.

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:00 PM

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If you want water, a good 240mm or larger is recommended. SOmething like a Corsair H100i.

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@stoic yacht have you looked at what architecture is most suited for your code? (asking from pure curiosity)

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:00 PM

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For air, a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B or Noctua D15.

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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@knotty eagle you know what system he has?

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Ye, lemme find it

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intel i9-9820X Skylake X

unique lilyBOT Dec 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Naed#3611 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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oh that "thorny thing with a bad attitude"

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i would go 360mm on that @knotty eagle

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because moving to that system, from what he has, enables batching things up and hopefully keeping it more busy overall

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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165 watt TDP, I'd agree

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That's threadripper territory

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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meaning there is value in having a bigger "reserve" of surface to dump heat in

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also, keep in mind, this is solidly in the "no no, we are 100% correct about our power numbers" era of intel PR

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I've got the EVGA CLC360. I replaced the fans because they're noisy but I have yet to thoroughly heat soak it even with AIDA 64

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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you are on zen2 now @knotty eagle ?

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 4:16 PM

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3700X all core OC to 4.3

burnt goblet Dec 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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kk

wet bramble Dec 30, 2019, 5:41 PM

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@stoic yacht Sounds like you've got your hands full. I don't know what your budget or funding are like, but you could get your job done a lot faster with a Sparc based system using procs that have 64 or 128 cores. I spent a lot of my life working with a team designing cooling for these systems. We used air but the systems sounded like a jet airplane at the end of a runway. Those procs would generate 500+ watts and in the 1U servers (aka the "pizza box") there would be two procs. All that aside, assuming you are stuck with Intel procs whatever cooling you use it's probably going to be pretty damn loud, with fans running at, or near, 100%. If you use air you need to be very careful about channeling the air directly to your heatsink. Consider making baffles/tunnels to do this. Having a 3D printer makes that much easier. Liquid cooling will obviate a lot of that problem but then you need to make sure the air is tunneled to the radiators. Best luck! And, Happy New Year to all 😉

simple anchor Dec 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Are the stock thermal pads with the Wraith Stealth bad?

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Nah, it's just generic thermal paste

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If you have something else on hand it might be worth changing it but don't buy paste just to change it

topaz blaze Dec 30, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Building my first PC soon and need help with cooling, I'm using a Asus tuf x570 mobo and a ryzen 7 3700x, I will be overclocking, not sure what solution would work best, obviously the cheaper the better but I'm willing to pay more for the performance

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I was thinking of a dark rock 4 or a single fan aio

magic sparrow Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Single fan AIOs are horrible

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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No 120mm AIO

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those are garbage

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Dark Rock 4 is good as are others

magic sparrow Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Scythe Mugen 5

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Or some Thermalright cooler

knotty eagle Dec 30, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Noctua DH15

topaz blaze Dec 30, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Ok Thanksgiving

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:13 AM

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GAMDIAS CHOINE M1A 240R 240mm RGB All-In-One CPU Liquid Cooler how do yall rate this AIO?

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Enermax Liqfusion ELC-LF240-RGB RGB 240mm AIO or this one

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Never heard of the first one

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Stay away from the second, they build up gunk in the waterblock

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 AM

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k

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trying to find one for around $100 that still has some sort of RGB in it.

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dont want a single fan but anything over 240 wont fit

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Yeah, a good AIO for $100 with RGB is probably not going to happen

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:15 AM

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I know

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im trying to stay closer to that

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:16 AM

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lemme look

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:16 AM

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but realistically it looks like more like $150 is the range

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Yeah, the h100i is a great cooler

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There's this one but only the block is RGB

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https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Liquid-Cooler-Cooling-400-HY-CL28-V1/dp/B01N16CAKN/ref=sr_1_10?qid=1577765831&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-10

cold island Dec 31, 2019, 4:17 AM

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^ solid one

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rgb and under $100 don’t really go together

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Nope

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:18 AM

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I know

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i was taking a shot in the dark

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:18 AM

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These actually aren't bad

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https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-240EX-RGB-Waterblock-Motherboard/dp/B074N13ZRR/ref=asc_df_B074N13ZRR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198093101467&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=339427112786036952&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-378960538280&psc=1

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and it's $100

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:19 AM

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i actually want the silver one

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like badly lmao

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:19 AM

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If you're goin to spend $140 get the h100i

cold island Dec 31, 2019, 4:19 AM

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yeah the captain is really solid

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:24 AM

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well RGB is just something i want but can wait for overall

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i have a Thermaltake water 3.0 non rgb currently

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but its like 4 yrs old

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Yeah, if you can save up a little more the H100i is a great choice

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with RGB and great cooling on top

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I think thats what im going to do

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but might go with the H150i

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or what ever one i seen that had the LL120s in it

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it wasnt a 100 or 115

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:27 AM

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H100i

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:28 AM

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that comes with the ML120s i thought

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:28 AM

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LL120's

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-H100i-PLATINUM-Radiator/dp/B07R6YLDDS/ref=asc_df_B07R6YLDDS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343187928868&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5500931759145130701&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-782695097943&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=68968886357&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343187928868&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5500931759145130701&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-782695097943

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That's the white one but you get the idea

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Sorry, the Platinum is LL120

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H100i regular is ML120

heavy lake Dec 31, 2019, 4:29 AM

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i have a ML 120 in my case atm, i have to turn the RPM so far down not to hear it. its almost tragic lol

coral plinth Dec 31, 2019, 11:05 AM

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If you dont OC a pc, would you say a medium radiator fan is fine? 🙂 Stands between these 2

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dire field Dec 31, 2019, 11:08 AM

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What cpu

coral plinth Dec 31, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Going for amd 3950x

dire field Dec 31, 2019, 11:13 AM

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H100i will do you just fine if you don't overclock it

coral plinth Dec 31, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Okey, thanks 🙂

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:20 PM

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@empty stream how much were all those case fans?

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 3:24 PM

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~$180 before tax. You can get a 3-pack for $60

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If I were doing it over, I'd probably get LL120s in white (and Corsair RAM too). Just because Fusion 2.0 is garbage RGB software, so I'm using 3 different RGB programs and two controllers (one connected to 6 of the fans and the other to the last 3). And from what I can tell Corsair's RGB management is much better, as long as you use pretty much nothing but their components.

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But very happy with the performance of these fans

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Mhm

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So are they iCUE compatible?

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Tryna build ultimate corsair build

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But LL120s are sooo expensive

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Why do people not like the ML120's?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Idk

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Bekora I completely redid my system

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:39 PM

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And?

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ML120's are quieter and move more air. Also, LL's shouldn't be used on a radiator, IE AIO

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 3:40 PM

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They are not. These are Fractal Design fans. Only Corsair products will be icue compatible.

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:40 PM

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OoF

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Thanks

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 3:41 PM

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If I were doing it over, I'd probably pony up the extra money to do full corsair

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Or skip on RGB fans lol

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:42 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ckMFG

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That mine

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I do need corsair fans and to replace the asus ones

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But that's later

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Then I'll get 2 3 packs and replace all 4 in the case and the AIOs

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Question: Why 3000 series Ryzen without an x570 motherboard?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Because

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The MSI tomahawk max has 3000 series

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And its cheaper

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:43 PM

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x570 allows for PCI-E Generation 4

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B450 doesn't

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Why would I need that

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 PM

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SSD speed and other things coming soon

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You're going to use this build for 2-4 years right?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Yeah most likely

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But will upgrade some stuff

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Right

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Lemme see the price with an x570

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Another $30

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157884?item=N82E16813157884&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157884&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgKzwBRCjARIsABBbFuh36FDWEPGFr68kLeSZAbhxOQgoozhMKgS6wMMExWDIryxX-wRgIIwaAgjvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Nevermind

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Yeah its fine

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Even with the TUF

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:08 PM

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@regal plaza why a 2.5" SSD and not an M.2 NVMe?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Good point. Another $20 for a 1TB NVME

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Because I dont need one right now

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:10 PM

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You can get an NVMe for like the same price

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Yeah but 2 sata ports are disabled

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Also, pretty sure you

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'll need a 5v header to use the RGB with that AIO. Which the tomahawk doesn't have

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:12 PM

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SATA ports are only disabled with the 2nd M.2 slot

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on the TUF board

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One slot uses direct to CPU, the other uses SATA lanes

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:13 PM

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I'm using a different board

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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TUF WiFi or Gigabyte?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Tuf

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yeah, one slot doesn't affect SATA while the other does

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Ok

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Does it have a 5v header?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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For RGB?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yes

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My AIO

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yes, has a 5V and a 12V

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Sweet

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I'd go Inland Premium for the M.2 drive. Easily one of the fastest NVMe's especially for the price

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Do the fans need a header?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:17 PM

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The Sabrent Rocket 1 TB is faster for the same price

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Faster read and write speed

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3400/3000

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Ah yeah. Really either will be solid

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I have a 512GB HP EX920 that's been great

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Ok gimme a sec

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Could I possibly go down to a 2060 super and have room for other stuff?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:36 PM

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1080p gaming?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Yes

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Yeah, that will be fine

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135 FPS in Rainbow 6 Siege

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Max settings?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Ye

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Ultra

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Hmmm yea

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I got around 80 extra bucks, what should I get?

empty stream Dec 31, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Have you considered a 5700? Pretty much the same performance as 2060S but $50-$100 cheaper

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Streaming

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Yeah

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:43 PM

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AMD's encoder is honestly poo quality wise.

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I'll get the 3800X

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Only 100 MHZ higher boost clock

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over the 3700x

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Hmm

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What should I get then

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 PM

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stay with your 3700x

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I have it and the 2060

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yrah

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Great performance

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Better MOBO?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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TUF WiFi gaming mobo

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I'm telling you, this combo is fantastic

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16 GB of ram

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Yeah but I can spend extra

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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3600 mhz

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I have that

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Just because you can spend extra doesn't mean you need to. 😉

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Facts

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Maybe headset?

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Naaa

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It's on sale from 80

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Get a better RGB case or something?

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If you have extra, mebbe make it look the way you want

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I dont know of any

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And the one I have looks pretty cool

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:50 PM

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The white one?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Any you know of?

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Yeah

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Rosewill prism s

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Something like this to match your H100i?

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-iCUE-Mid-Tower-Smart-White/dp/B07WLNSSBW/ref=asc_df_B07WLNSSBW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=397238452786&hvpos=1o13&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10349588530332878634&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-826710516408&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=81954849497&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=397238452786&hvpos=1o13&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10349588530332878634&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-826710516408

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Hmmm and it would have iCUR

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Yep

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What's your current list?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 PM

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ICUE

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Lemme show u

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Ya, the partpicker list

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Ok I added it

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1898

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 PM

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You trying to get right to 2K?

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:56 PM

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No

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2k is max

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Ah

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Honestly, I think what you have is great where you're at

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Yeah

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I'll send

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t2fbp8

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I'll send

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Send it

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By that I meant go buy it

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Ok

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Well I cant right now

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Doing other stuff

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Ok, that's a good list

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I just dont know about the out of box thermals

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:01 PM

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WDYM

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:01 PM

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The case

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I don't know how the thermals are

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But does that matter with an AIO?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Thermals will be fine with an AIO and that case

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You can PBO that thing until the cows come home and even OC the graphics card

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I'm definetly overclocking the CPU, idk about the gpu

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Is it hard to overclock ram btw or whatever

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:03 PM

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The Ryzen CPU's aren't really overclockable all that much

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Honestly just turn on PBO and let it do it's thing

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Depends on the ram

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with 3600 mhz ram the fabric clock will be 1800 mhz, 1900 mhz is the top

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And the performance difference is about 1-2 FPS in games

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So, not really worth it

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Oh ok

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How would you rate the Price to performance

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On this system

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I would say pretty darned good

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Only way to up is a 2070 super

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Minus the rgb

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I'll se how my bank account feels if I add that

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Indeed!

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:23 PM

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What's a good 2070 super for kinda cheap? The cheapest one is asus dual evo but idk if I trust a 2 fan one

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 PM

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EVGA for any nVidia card IMO

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Mk

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How about MSI?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 PM

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The MSI I saw is $10 less than the EVGA

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Oh that nothing

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Indeed

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$509 vs $519

regal plaza Dec 31, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Mhm

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Idk why I wqe thinking of 2080

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My bad

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 5:27 PM

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no worries

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:44 PM

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so, should i get
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterLiquid-Addressable-MLX-D24M-A20PC-R1/dp/B079K244KZ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2DH8X1LOGY7E4&keywords=coolermaster+aio+240mm&qid=1577817642&sprefix=coolernaster+aio%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-4

or a h100i RGB, or just end up getting this
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterLiquid-Chamber-MLA-D24M-A18PC-R1/dp/B07CRGC899/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2DH8X1LOGY7E4&keywords=coolermaster+aio+240mm&qid=1577817642&sprefix=coolernaster+aio%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-3

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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ML240R. Better pump.

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:48 PM

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okay, thanks. should i connect it to cpu fan or aio pump, bc if i connect it to cpu fan the bios error shows up

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:49 PM

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AI pump

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:49 PM

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how do i get rid of the error?

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asus mobo

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Connected to AIO pump?

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What does the error say?

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:50 PM

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yeah, if i connect it to aio pump i get cpu fan error

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Oh cuz no CPU fan connected

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SHould be able to shut that warning off

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:50 PM

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where?

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:52 PM

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SOmething like Ignore CPU fan, depends on the BIOS. Also, can you plug the fans in separately to a fan header?

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Or are all of them on one connector to the pump?

kind apex Dec 31, 2019, 6:53 PM

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set cpu fan speed from N/A to ignore in bios

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Ah

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I have a manual

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Pump to AIO header

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Fans to CPU Fan header

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and RGB to the pump

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📎 AIO.JPG

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:56 PM

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okay

kind apex Dec 31, 2019, 6:57 PM

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the reason you would want to plug the pump into the cpu fan header is because it is most likely to fail which will shut off the pc as opposed to the fans on the rad failing

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:57 PM

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yeah i have it their bc i have a crappy aio

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right now

knotty eagle Dec 31, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Pump should always be 100%

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fans should be variable

kind apex Dec 31, 2019, 6:58 PM

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but if the pump fails it wont turn off the cpu if its not plugged into the cpu fan header

pale plover Dec 31, 2019, 6:58 PM

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i have my cpu fan to 100% which is where the pump is right now

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thats fine with me, bc i have afterburner witch tells me my temps... but ima just plug the new one into pump header and the fans into cpu fan

quasi copper Jan 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Wel let’s say you’re in a game and your pump fails, are you checking afterburner while gaming?

wet bramble Jan 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I don't know afterburner, but CoreTemp allows you to pin it to the taskbar and you can see your Core 0, 1, 2, 3 (you can pick one or all) and, as long as your taskbar is showing you can see your core temp/s. If you game starts getting wonky just look and see if your core temp is getting to hot. Easy solution.

wet bramble Jan 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@pale plover I assume you have an AIO. In that case you will be better served hooking the cpu_fan/s up to the cpu_fan header and hook the coolant pump up to another fan header ("AIO_fan", if you have one labelled as such) or any other fan header and set it's profile in BIOS to run at 100%. That way the cpu_fan can throttle up or down as needed (again, controlled by the profile you have set in BIOS). There should be no need for the cpu fan/s to run at 100% unless the processor is running at, or near max temperature, or if you have some temp alarm set.

pale plover Jan 1, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Okay

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Yeah i have a crap aio. Im getting a new one soon

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Btw, afterburner comes with a thing that lets you do this

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cold island Jan 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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bruh nice fps

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 1:27 AM

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@pale plover I think you missed my point about CoreTemp. It allows you to see the temps in your task bar at the bottom of your monitor. You don't need to have a window open to see your temps. Like this:

📎 unknown.png

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It's not so intrusive.

pale plover Jan 2, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Yes, i missed your point

topaz blaze Jan 2, 2020, 3:55 PM

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buy a noctua cooler. all your problems solved

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@topaz blaze I am sure that their air coolers are great (re: Noctua) but I just wanted to say that their new (well, new in spring 2018) Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans are just incredible. I used a couple of these fans in a recent build - in an old case - and that system became so quiet that I have replaced all my fans in a second system with them.

autumn solstice Jan 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@wet bramble thanks for the feedback on those, I've been really considering picking those up to replace some ML120s

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@autumn solstice I've been a Noctua fan enthusiast for many years but this new NF-A12x family just hits it out of the park. If you read the reviews on Newegg they just about all say pretty much what I say. Yeh, sure, they are that butt ugly brown, but they are sooo quiet. I have no regrets about spending a little extra for the best. Plus, six year warranty!

autumn solstice Jan 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I mean, heck, if I'm really masochistic about it, I could just print a snap-on cover for the frame and away we go 🙂

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Someone out there has a case that's painted two-tone brown. To match their fans.

empty stream Jan 2, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Yeah, that SFF Noctua build is awesome

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@empty stream Are you saying that you have actually seen this? I was just joking 😉

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What's "SFF"?

empty stream Jan 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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small form factor

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Feast your eyes on the ultimate Noctua build lolhttps://imgur.com/gallery/I5AlVEY?fbclid=IwAR1bBsSHMRw6316sMBLBFIMEknQHE_CGgHMAOB2cNa6SB20gAjeXUeKvYaI

Imgur

Count Noctua - Sliger SM580, Ryzen 3700X SFX Build

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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My HTPC build is in a Coolermaster 130 case with a mini-ITX mobo. Got a Corsair H80i v2 stuffed in it with Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM's as push/pulls. It is damn near silent all the time.

empty stream Jan 2, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Nice. My case is surprisingly quiet for 9x Fractal AL-12 PWMs, a reference 5700 XT, and Wraith Prism... that is until the fans spin up to full blast. lol

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The loudest fan is probably the chipset fan on my Aorus Elite though haha

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Wow, thanks for posting that! That is so cool (please pardon the pun).

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Lots more pics and info if you follow that link. That person has a great - and a bit dark - sense of humor. Gotta love that.

empty stream Jan 2, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Yeah, I'm honestly pretty jealous of how awesome that build is

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My next one will likely be similar, monochromatic and minimal to no RGB SFF, as a complete 180 from my current build

topaz blaze Jan 2, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Im not really the biggest fan of RGB

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I prefer the cleaner look of black or white

wet bramble Jan 2, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I get RGB, but also not a fan. There's clearly a healthy market for it. I believe that great fans and RGB are mutually exclusive. But, it's just like opinions. Everybody's got their own and just because you like it, or not, does not mean it's right, or wrong. I have always built PC's for the best combination of performance and low noise that I can get.

acoustic scarab Jan 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I like the look of matte black with purple bits

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Wanna make my pc look like an alien spaceship

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So heres my question, why are Noctua fans like $30 each?!

upbeat anchor Jan 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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becayse

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because

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lol

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they're noctua

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extreme airflow

frozen sentinel Jan 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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They are pretty much the best depending on what you look for in fans. Which is what most people would be looking for.

acoustic scarab Jan 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ok but

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Hear me out

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It's $1 worth of plastic and $2 worth of other components

knotty eagle Jan 2, 2020, 11:21 PM

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not $2 of other components, depending on the fan. Also, the R&D to make fan blades silent isn't cheap either.

sharp zinc Jan 2, 2020, 11:23 PM

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“Hear me out” I’m offended

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Just get a normal white fan for cheap and a couple of sharpies

knotty eagle Jan 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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I use the be Quiet SIlent wings fans

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amazing

wet bramble Jan 3, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@acoustic scarab re:Noctua cost ... Most of their fans are $20. Only their new generation high end fans are 30. You get $5-10 worth of accessories that you don't get with other fans, including vibration damping mounts and a radiator seal/gasket that no one else supplies. Both of those items are highly engineered and they absolutely do work. I tried a push/pull config with, and without the radiator gasket and I got a clear 3 degC difference. The new material "Sterrox" was specifically designed to minimize vibration and maximize airflow. I think it's safe to say that the majority of good fans on the market are reverse engineered from Noctua. That's my opinion, but Noctua clearly leads the way in fan design.

cold island Jan 3, 2020, 1:26 AM

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they have to develop everything new also https://noctua.at/en/sterrox-liquid-crystal-polymer-lcp

Noctua

Designed in Austria, Noctua's premium cooling components are renowned for their superb quietness, exceptional performance and thoroughgoing quality.

regal plaza Jan 3, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Whats the best air cooler? Non-aio, as ive been told overcllcking the 3700X doesnt do much and AIOs seem like a hassle to install

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Preferably under 90

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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under 90?

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Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B or Noctua NH14 or 15

regal plaza Jan 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Preferably

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Ok thanks

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Welcome

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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hey guys i got a question

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could i keep a i7-9700k cool with a cooler masters hyper 212

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Yes but the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 is half the price for the same thing 😉

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Ok thanks

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Do you think i could over clock it

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the mobo is a Z390-p

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:11 AM

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There's a little headroom there. If you want to overclock, I'd recommend the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:12 AM

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ok

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Thanks for the help with not ruining my cpu

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:13 AM

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You're welcome lol!

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It'll be fine with a good air cooler

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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i was thinking about a noctua cooler

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but if i could get something cheaper that is still nice

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Those are good too but a tad expensive

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yeah

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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The Mugen is about $50

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yeah its onsale for

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48

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Yeah, it's a good deal right now

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yeah i might go ahead and buy it in the morning

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Only downside is no RGB but you could always add your own fans

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The Noctuas aren't either

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:16 AM

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yeah but i dont need unicorn vomit everywhere and i also dont need the extra cables

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to manage

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Perfect!

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I don't like rrainbow puke either lol

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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yeah it is not my favorite in pc for a keyboard mouse its diffrent for me

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it lights up the keys

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Mine too. Right now it's all set to blue

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:17 AM

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mine is green

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i might just get some like corsair fans to put on the front of the case

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a bit of lighting and more airflow

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Those fans are good. If you don't want lights the Silent Wings and Noctua are good also

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:19 AM

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ok

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silent wings are not too bad of a price

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not the best but not the worst

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Noe, kinda in the middle

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I have them on my 360mm radiator

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whisper quiet even under a load

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:21 AM

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ohh ok

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i was thinking about a aio but i really dont got the extra 50 to 60 to spend on it and is also my first build

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Hoenstly the Mugen 5 will be fine

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A good air cooler can keep it plenty cool

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 5:23 AM

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ok

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Well thanks for the help if i got anymore questions i will ask you if you are on

knotty eagle Jan 3, 2020, 5:25 AM

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You're welcome!

median patio Jan 3, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Any cheap 2 pack of fans that preform ok, idc about rgb.

calm meadow Jan 3, 2020, 8:02 PM

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hey, does anyone know 140mm argb case fans that works with asus aura and have lighting visible on the sides of the frame like the latest Cooler Master MF120 ARGB HALO?

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the MF120 ARGB HALO would be perfect but they only released 120mm

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Corsair's QL140 are way too expensive and only connect to Corsair's controller

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Sorry I wish I could help but I don't

calm meadow Jan 3, 2020, 9:28 PM

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:L

sturdy umbra Jan 3, 2020, 9:28 PM

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It sucks

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I wish Corsair fans where cheaper they are really nice but to expensive

calm meadow Jan 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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and i wish they didnt require their own controller

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-cl-f079-pl12sw-a-case-radiator-fan/p/N82E16835106557 @sturdy umbra

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 12:54 AM

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wow i take back what i said that is exensive

serene moon Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553037 THATS expensive lol

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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that's a 3 pack

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corsair fans are 40 bucks a piece

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for the high end ones

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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ohh

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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so it's not that expensive

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yeah more

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sence

serene moon Jan 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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50/1=50... 160/3=>50 lol

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well 169.99 but still =\

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weird that link is taking me to the wrong page =\ is it showing you fans or a case?

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@sturdy umbra Hyper 212 Evo is the bees knees for air coolers. Cheap too. I upgraded the fans on mine to have one on each side and it keeps my 8700 3.2 that runs at 4.2 at 17C ambient and doesnt go over 40C during raids on final fantasy 14 @ untra

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Ultra*

cold island Jan 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

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wouldnt really say its the best for the budget rn since its like 35-40, and the gammaxx 400 is only 20

magic sparrow Jan 4, 2020, 3:57 AM

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@blissful sandal 212 is be far overrated. Use to be a good budget option, now it isnt

idle tiger Jan 4, 2020, 3:58 AM

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$20 makes it a nice budget option imo - $35 , no way

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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@magic sparrow what would you say is better in range of that price point? Let's say +40$

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Nuclear Nachos is right the gammaxx 400 is just as good cheper as well and if you wanna spend a bit more then the 35-45 the hyper evo is spend like 50 on a mugen cooler

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Maybe I'm a little biased because I got it on Cyber deals in Nov

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:09 AM

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maybe

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cooling also depends on the case as well

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Truth

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:09 AM

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if you got choked fans it doesnt matter how much money you spend on them

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I can say that mine is performing great.

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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yeah the hyper 212 is really good

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I also upgraded the fans on the 212 tho

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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yeah that can also help alot

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:11 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/scythe-scmg-5100/p/13C-0004-00075

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I did doubles with higher static pressure than the stock one. They were cheap road well

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I have the black hyper212

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it's great

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I got it for cheaper too

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it's not worth the 40imo

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:11 AM

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yeah its good but you can get better for like 5-10 more bucks

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it is really good tho

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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yeah

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Definitely worth $20 tho. I do like that scythe. Does it come with an extra set of brackets to mount a 2nd fan?

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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not sure

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also why are noctua black coolers so expensive rn

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the black fans are usually like 10 more bucks

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Those clip styles look a little easier to use

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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now the black nhd15 is 170

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and the brown is brown is 80 like waaat

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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That's high

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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although it's not neweggs pricing

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Newegg has daily deals. That's why its the best

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Yep

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Gnite all

upbeat anchor Jan 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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WaveBoy

sturdy umbra Jan 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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goodnight

magic sparrow Jan 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@blissful sandal Can get slightly better than 212 for $20
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400
Or quite a bit better for $40
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3XXfrH/deepcool-cpu-cooler-neptwinv20
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dg2kcf/thermalright-cpu-cooler-macho120

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gammaxx 400 is better than 212 and yet the 212 is more. Simply makes the 212 a completely bad buy

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Thanks for the info

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I'll check it out

magic sparrow Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Yee. 212 has kept its name for a bit too long. Use to be one of the best for its price, now it isnt. However it still is an okay cooler, just needs to be like $15 or less

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which is probably like used market or something

blissful sandal Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I like the artic freezer one as well

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It looks nice

minor linden Jan 4, 2020, 6:56 AM

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What custom loop config would fit in a corsair 570x/

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Hardline or soft tubing?

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@minor linden

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@minor linden I’d suggest ekwg for tubing or Corsair if it’s a Corsair case they make good water cooling stuff like there tubing the pumps and water blocks

warped thistle Jan 5, 2020, 2:15 AM

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What kind of heatsink is good under $40?

topaz blaze Jan 5, 2020, 7:43 AM

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idk

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raise your heatsink budget

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it will be worth it

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 1:08 PM

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40 is to low for a quality heat sink

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Depends on what you are trying to cool @warped jasper

magic sparrow Jan 5, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Not really. Arctic eSports Duo is $40 and is rather good

gaunt grotto Jan 5, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Me: Wishing there were quality low cost 480mm radiators. Lmao

idle tiger Jan 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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eBay motors has quite a few

topaz blaze Jan 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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https://youtu.be/Ipfb3YZiWkc

YouTube

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Would I be able to plug these into the rgb controller that comes with the nzxt h500i?

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@burnt goblet I was just suggesting to him that a bigger budget would be better I already have my own custom hardline build

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ah, that context was lost in what you said @warped jasper :)

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Yea

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This is my setup

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@burnt goblet

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:01 PM

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gah! rainbows!

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Lol

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:01 PM

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not a fan of rgb :)

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I use my just have it on red

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i prefer my mtb's colourful, but my system without colour

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the double 90 bend tube you have (that looks like it is crooked) is that from the camera angle or?

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:02 PM

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My other system has rgb but I always keep my colors on white or blue

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Camera angle

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:03 PM

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the tube that runs from behind the flow indicator that is

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i will say i like the runs

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certain flair to it that is not seen that often

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:04 PM

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It’s angled back not crooked

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:04 PM

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from the flow indicator, that vertical part "looks" crooked/off, hence the question

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:05 PM

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It runs a little bit backwards and then stays normal but it doesn’t effect any water flow

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:05 PM

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no no, it is purely visual

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Yea it’s just for the looks

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:05 PM

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i like that you have not "hugged" the components as hard as possible

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a bit of air goes a long way in giving the illusion of "space" in the build

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well done

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I was going for a crazy look for my tubing

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It’s a big case so I had a ton of room

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:07 PM

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your gpu power cables would be nicer (imo) with full width clips across the cables

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I could do that but that would mess up the loom when it goes into the power supply

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:08 PM

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also, potentially fixed distance between them

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Here is a pic of it before I put my red liquid in it

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:09 PM

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enough rainbow for a class of unicorns :P

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Like I can’t use full clips really

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Because the power supply

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:10 PM

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i will take your word for it, i only have your pictures to base my statements on :)

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also, you can do "assemble at the spot" clips

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Take a look at the power supply and you’ll understand

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:11 PM

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the type i am talking about, you can use easily

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i think we are talking about two different things :)

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yea

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You should see my workstation

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burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:13 PM

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https://www.quietpc.com/images/products/na-cf-cableclip-cc-24-1-large.jpg

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that could work for you, in the right model ofc

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:14 PM

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My workstation is pretty simple with tubing and cable management

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 9:14 PM

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you were thinking of the "slide-on" clips right?

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:14 PM

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No I was just thinking of normal full clips

idle tiger Jan 5, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Did you build those yourself?

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Yes

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I build gaming PCs and workstation for people as a hobby

idle tiger Jan 5, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Nice, got a company?

warped jasper Jan 5, 2020, 9:16 PM

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No it’s all by my self I put ads up on websites and stuff

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Like i talk to people who own websites and then they basically sponser me and people send me the list of parts or send me all the parts and I build the pc and send it to them

azure crown Jan 5, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Lucky

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@burnt goblet Can you offer me some help and advice right quick?

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:23 PM

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it can try

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I just built my pc today, and I used the grain of rice method for applying my thermal paste. Right now I have installed 4 120mm fans.
My idle temps for my pc sits around 30 to 32C and under 20 to 30 percent load its maintaining a temp of 39C. Havent tested any further but I need to know if I didnt apply my paste correctly

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It's the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 that I'm running now.

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:25 PM

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that is fine

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nothing to worry about :)

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and congratulations on assembly (and not blowing it up) :)

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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I hope not. Lol, this is my first time actually applying thermal paste to a processor so I want to make sure I didnt screw it up.

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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you didnt

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Lol thanks, I take it people managed to really screw up their builds with improperly installing or applying something?

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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oh yes

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there are many horror stories on that front :)

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ask me another day (time for sleep here now) if you are interested :)

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I definitely will, just curious at what temperature should I start to worry? I've been told 75C or higher is worrisome

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:29 PM

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considering the throttle point for the cpu is 95C, 75 is not something to worry about either

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people worry about the weirdest things (the general "people" being used here)

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Alright, I'll keep that in mind. I'm happy that so far everything is working. One last question. Lol, is there anything I should worry about, like a break in period for the processor. Not sure if that's a thing. Lol

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:32 PM

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imo? no

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if you ask around, i am certain you can find 10 different things to worry yourself blue in the face about

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relax and enjoy your new machine mate :)

slender horizon Jan 5, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Awesome. I'll add ya so you can tell me about those horror stories as well. Thank you for the help once more!

burnt goblet Jan 5, 2020, 11:33 PM

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no problem at all :)

solar zodiac Jan 6, 2020, 3:15 AM

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When mounting an aio in the front is it better to have the fans come before or after the radiator

hidden mural Jan 6, 2020, 5:01 AM

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typically people mount by screwing the radiator in from the front

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every time i see it

autumn solstice Jan 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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@solar zodiac in theory, the difference between push (air goes to fans before radiator) and pull (air goes through radiator before the fans) is negligible.

If you know if you want intake or exhaust, it's mostly preference at that point.

solar zodiac Jan 6, 2020, 6:25 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625780655040757800/663618498550956063/IMG_20200106_004149831.jpg?width=244&height=326

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i set it up like this. just waiting on my gpu

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:36 PM

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is it normal for a Ryzen 7 3800X with wraith cooler to idle at around 60c?

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

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no, not really. do you have the latest BIOS for your motherboard?

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

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yes

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it's a asrock x570 phantom gaming 4

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

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What program are you reading temps with?

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

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ryzen master

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

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What is it saying your idle clocks and voltage are?

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

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📎 L_2020-01-06_10-43-04.png

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

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The part below that......under VOltage Control

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:46 PM

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📎 n_2020-01-06_10-45-58.png

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:47 PM

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CPU voltage should look like this

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📎 Ryzen_voltage.JPG

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

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oh sorry

📎 4_2020-01-06_10-48-28.png

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

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That doesn't seem out of spec. I'd check your mounting and CPU fan to be sure it's proper

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

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while stressing it it goes up to 80c max which seems fine

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Yeah, that does seem OK. Just seems odd to idle that high with those voltages and clocks

tough heath Jan 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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ryzen master says it's at 1.3 ghz but task manager says it's at 4.3 ghz, is that normal too

knotty eagle Jan 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Yes, Windows reports max clock, not current clock

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Mine disagree also

topaz blaze Jan 7, 2020, 9:16 PM

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whats a good liquid cooling system

topaz blaze Jan 7, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@knotty eagle can you help me

worldly heath Jan 8, 2020, 12:17 AM

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That's way too broad of a question

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what are you looking to cool? what's your budget? what's your case? Are you willing to do custom loop? Do you care about the looks? Do you care about how loud it is?

idle tiger Jan 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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AIO? Or custom loop? Best answer - r507 SS chiller?

magic sparrow Jan 8, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Cheap custom loops arent bad. Adequate quality loop including a full copper loop, CPU/GPU block, 240mm rad, resivior, pump, RGB, soft tubing, fittings all for ~$200

topaz blaze Jan 8, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Would I plug this cable from my radiator pump into my cpu_fan or cpu_opt?

📎 image0.jpg

knotty eagle Jan 8, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Pump should go CPU OPT IMO, set it to 100% all the time

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CPU fan should control radiator fans

topaz blaze Jan 8, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Ok thx

tough heath Jan 8, 2020, 4:33 PM

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would a upHere CCF150CF be a signifiant upgrade over a wraith cooler

knotty eagle Jan 8, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Which Wraith?

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Prism or spire?

tough heath Jan 8, 2020, 4:36 PM

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prism

knotty eagle Jan 8, 2020, 4:38 PM

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No

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If you're going to upgrade from the Prism, need a Scythe Mugen Rev B or something

modern crater Jan 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Is Arctic Cooler 34 Esports Duo a good cooler?

blissful plover Jan 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I need help with a cooler installation

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Anybody here

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To help with that

cold island Jan 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@modern crater yeah it’s a good $40 cooler

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and I can vouch for the rev b it’s a great cooler keeps my 2600x cool at silent under prime95

modern crater Jan 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@blissful plover Is your mobo in the case still?

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You can probably do it if its in the case but its significantly harder

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What I would do is take it out, install the brackets on the cooler, take out the old cooler by unscrewing, removing thermal paste on cpu and old cooler using isopropyl alcohol 99%, putting thermal paste on cpu, take off backplate, put cooler backplate, put standoffs if required, then install cooler by screwing it into standoffs in an X pattern

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Make sure to not tighten all screws individually. Tighten them evenly or youre gonna spread thermal paste unevenly and, worse, not screw in a corner properly. Finally, plug the cooler's cabel on the mobo pins labeled "cpu cooler" and youre done

burnt goblet Jan 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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@modern crater his board is out of the case

sturdy umbra Jan 9, 2020, 5:54 AM

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@knotty eagle i figured you would know any decent priced 120mm fans

topaz blaze Jan 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Does anyone know if a good 240mm AIO will be enough for the Ryzen 9 3950X or not?

knotty eagle Jan 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Yes

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Something like an H100i or a Kraken

topaz blaze Jan 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Okay good I have the X52 Kraken

knotty eagle Jan 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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SHould be fine

topaz blaze Jan 9, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Okay thanks for the info

harsh ermine Jan 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Questions for the smart people my friend has a i9 9900k liquid cooled
When he plays cod at max every thing it hits 70-75c is that hot for liquid cooled my i7 7700 runs at 70c with just a stock cooler

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 6:04 PM

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By liquid cooled do you mean an all-in-one or a custom loop setup @harsh ermine

harsh ermine Jan 9, 2020, 6:12 PM

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All in 1

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 6:13 PM

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AIOs are not in the same league as actual water cooling (Custom loops etc)

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You need to get in the $120+ range just to get one that performs as well as a good air cooler. They're for show not performance per penny for the most part.

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Not saying the stock cooler is good but.

harsh ermine Jan 9, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Thisis exactly what cooler ot is CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CyberpowerPC MasterLiquid Lite 240mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump & Copper Cold Plate (Intel)

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Cyberpower rebranded a coolermaster product, thats interesting.

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Yeah that AIO is pretty much the cheapest you can buy when I was looking to buy one

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Basically trash

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Its on par with a basic air cooler, let alone an actually good air cooler.

harsh ermine Jan 9, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I figured its running hot but it is pushing max fps with a 2080ti

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On the Samsung g9 49 32:9 ultra wide

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I just find it funny that a CM product that costs 45 was rebranded by cyberpower

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Would this be adequate for light OCing a 3600?

📎 SmartSelect_20200109-161944_Chrome.jpg

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Yeah some light OCing no problem. U14S is not that much expensive if you can fit it though.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I'm looking at the cooler master h500, and according to pcpartpicker, the U14S will fit.

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Says I can fit the D15, but I think that would be overkill.

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Depends on your budget

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I was considering moving from the U14S to D15 earlier because theres no black variation of U14S

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But I have a 3950X so its a bit more of a concern.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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The brown and red is growing on me. Think it would actually look pretty good in a black case. Little color pop without the RGB.

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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But to be fair, the D15 would last you for any AM4 CPU for the entire time the AM4 socket exists.

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I'm okay with it, I thought Id like it, but I also individually seperately loved my EVGA XC cooler on my 2080S, and seperately loved the RGB fans that came with my case and yeah... Kind of a miss match

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But to be fair its under my desk and I only wanted performance.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Put the red G.Skill Rip Jaws in there, be all set.

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Its like RGB but every shade of a dulux colour chart

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I think the only RGB in the build will be the included case fans for the h500, and the tomahawk Mobo.

merry crown Jan 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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RGB = more performance

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/9868f5ede01b618e2e21895cb7a08e05/tenor.gif

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Oh please stop saying such blanket terms ecks, Its specifically speed that RGB increases.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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🤔

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Like the neon car kits from the 90s.

merry crown Jan 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Hey it is the facts and a lot of people on here can back that up 😛

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I heard going all red RGB will actually melt the PC from all the speed.

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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My dad must have been RGB then. Learned that my mother was pregnant and took off like usain bolt.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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👀

merry crown Jan 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Well i said more performance i never said going faster 😛

topaz blaze Jan 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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😳

merry crown Jan 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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If you want more speed you need to download more ram

topaz blaze Jan 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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yes

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http://downloadmoreram.com

DownloadMoreRAM.com - CloudRAM 2.0

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irs recommends

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@frozen sentinel

📎 SmartSelect_20200109-165153_Chrome.jpg

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Came so hard my glasses fell off.

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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💦

low pumice Jan 9, 2020, 10:16 PM

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@wary wadi it'll be just fine. H500 has 167cm max cpu cooler, d15 is 165cm.
My case has 165cm max and it isnt even that tight

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@low pumice I just think the D15 will be overkill for my 3600, since I've never OCed before. Might OC slightly, but don't think I can go too far with b450 tomahawk max.

low pumice Jan 9, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yea d15 is overkill for 3600

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I have a d15 on my 3800x, 60C under load

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Tho you can future proof with it

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Depends if your next CPU will be AM4 or not. If it will be, D15 will tank any possible CPU you upgrade to.

low pumice Jan 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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You can also do intel with just a different bracket

frozen sentinel Jan 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Honestly, I was happy to have a good cooler to OC my last CPU to the absolute max at the end of its life.

low pumice Jan 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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But you cant move to threadripper bc the die is different size

wary wadi Jan 9, 2020, 10:32 PM

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This build will hopefully last for 3 or so years, so AMD would most likely be in a different socket by then I think.

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I should probably post my build in the appropriate channel for feedback.

burnt goblet Jan 9, 2020, 10:43 PM

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something to keep in mind with Noctua.

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IF it is possible and it fits in the thermals, they release upgraded brackets for their coolers when a new socket is introduced

tough heath Jan 10, 2020, 12:37 AM

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if I order a noctua d15 then replace fans by rgb ones, will it be as decent?

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Depends on the airflow of the replacement fans

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They should be close to or equal to the Noctua fans for the same cooling

low pumice Jan 10, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Though securing those fans might get wierd

tough heath Jan 10, 2020, 12:45 AM

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whats the difference between noctua d15 and a cheap dual tower with same amount of heatpipes

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Airflow, quality, amount of liquid in the heat pipes, heat transfer, etc. You get what you pay for.

tough heath Jan 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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ah

tough heath Jan 10, 2020, 1:38 AM

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opening my case made the cpu considerably cooler, i guess I'd need better case fans rather than a cpu cooler?

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 1:39 AM

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indeed

sturdy umbra Jan 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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@knotty eagle

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i got a question

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for a ryzen 7 3700x should i go with the scythe mugen 5 cooler or a corsair h100x aio

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 1:56 AM

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AIO just because it's water cooling. but the mugen 5 would be great also

sturdy umbra Jan 10, 2020, 1:56 AM

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probably aio

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ok

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i figured i would get your opinnion

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another thing would the 3700x be fine on a b450 tomahawk max board

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im guessing it would

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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I mean, you'd be missing out on PCI-E gen 4 but it would work.

sturdy umbra Jan 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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do you know another board around that price with a pci-e gen 4

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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$150 is the minimum I recommend for an X570 board

sturdy umbra Jan 10, 2020, 2:00 AM

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ok

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ill share a motherboard i found its an x470 its 130 ill psot the link

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in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

dire hare Jan 10, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I changed the led cable for my wrath prism cooler from the old rgb header. But now the fans won't spin on

knotty eagle Jan 10, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Is the fan cable plugged in? And how did you change the led cable?

frozen sentinel Jan 10, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Some people say that the D15 heatsink is enough to keep a CPU cool enough without fans, but obviously you want fans.

topaz blaze Jan 10, 2020, 8:12 AM

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D15 is proby best air cooler ever

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my only issue is noctua won't make TR4 version D:

low pumice Jan 10, 2020, 12:49 PM

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It is enough to cool without fans

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I can confirm

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Didn't test it under load, just idle tho

wary wadi Jan 10, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Are there any 120 or 140 Noctua fans that are considered a "go to"?

cold island Jan 10, 2020, 6:53 PM

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The a12x25 is the best 120 on the market rn

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idk much about the 140’s but id assume their a14’s are decent

low pumice Jan 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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the ones on my d15 are pretty nice, they're NF-A15

ripe pollen Jan 10, 2020, 8:13 PM

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any air cooler recommendations for a ryzen 7 3700x?

topaz blaze Jan 10, 2020, 8:16 PM

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im going with liquid cooling

burnt goblet Jan 10, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@ripe pollen if you didnt get a recommendation: Just about any noctua you are willing to pay for. the 12, 14 and 15 are favourites of many a technician.

low pumice Jan 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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So nh-d12, nh-d14, nh-d15 and respective S versions

simple anchor Jan 10, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Can I use the Ryzen 7 2700X stock cooler (Wraith Prism RGB) with the included thermal pad and be good if I'm not over clocking?

neat river Jan 10, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Yea

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It’s sufficient for stock speeds

simple anchor Jan 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Okay that made no sence

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Could I keep it cold enough to play games at a not very high temp?

neat river Jan 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Yea

ebon hatch Jan 11, 2020, 2:38 PM

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anyone know where to buy a Morpheus vega cooler? they are super rare these days

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200111_083637.jpg

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Where do I put this cable lmao

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It's from the exhaust fan

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:45 PM

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CHA_FAN header

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I see SYS_FAN

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1/2/3

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:47 PM

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SYS_FAN then

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:47 PM

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But I need 4

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Becuase I have 3 in the front

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And the exhaust in the back

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Then you'll need a controller or a splitter

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Do cases normally come with them?

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Some do, some don't. It's not universal

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Corsair?

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Corsair what?

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:48 PM

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SPEC-DELTA RGB

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:50 PM

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RGB splitter but no fan splitter

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:50 PM

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So I'll need to buy one?

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Or can you buy them I should have asked

sharp zinc Jan 11, 2020, 3:51 PM

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you can buy them and the ones ive seen are pretty cheap

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Okay and what would the RGB port be called in the manual?

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Something like this

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077YHLDSP?tag=techlounge0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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It's called RGB Header

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On the motherboard

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Didnt' your board come with a manual?

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It has pictures of where all the headers are on the motherboard

sharp zinc Jan 11, 2020, 3:53 PM

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oh wow ive been looking at rgb controllers which are 20-30 dollars thats super cheap lol

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Thyat's just a fan splitter

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Not RGB

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I remember seeing it somewhere but now I can't find it

sharp zinc Jan 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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yeah i know i meant the ones ive been looking at are rgb. didnt know there was just basic fan splitters

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outside of rgb controllers that is

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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My case came with a RGB splitter

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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OH yeah, my NZXT came with one in the case. It's nice because you can PWM 3 pin fans with only one PWM 4 pin connected

sharp zinc Jan 11, 2020, 3:55 PM

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see i forwent buying a case i liked a while back (like 3 years ago) cause it came with 4 fans and my mobo only had 2 fan slots and i didnt wanna buy a controller at the time lol

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 3:56 PM

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RGB LED strip header?

sharp zinc Jan 11, 2020, 3:56 PM

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i think thats it but ill let bekora give you a more definitive answer cause ive only ever seen it called rgb header lol

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also wouldnt you plug a normal fan splitter into a fan port instead of the rgb header?

knotty eagle Jan 11, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Yes

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Fan power to a fan header, RGB to an RGB header

simple anchor Jan 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Can you find one that is 2 to 1 or 3 to 1?

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So the RGB header won't go into the header

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Or into the board

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The motherboard header is 5 pin and the other one is 4

viral fjord Jan 11, 2020, 7:42 PM

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is there any reason at all to add another case fan if my temps peak 75 degrees with 2 case fans

proud osprey Jan 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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yes

trim tinsel Jan 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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75c is still pretty warm. You would last longer the lower your temperature

viral fjord Jan 11, 2020, 9:09 PM

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hmm ok i will buy another case fan then

viral fjord Jan 11, 2020, 11:52 PM

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alright I'm adding 2 case fans so I'll have 4

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my case came preinstalled with 2, one in the lower front as an intake and one in the upper back as an exhaust

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I should add another fan to the upper front as an intake and one in the back of the top panel as an exhaust right?

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lower front

📎 20200111_155428_HDR.jpg

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upper back

📎 20200111_155436.jpg

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I'm a big noob at this but my understanding is that the airflow enters lower in the front then rises as it heats up and exits the back higher up?

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in sort of an L shape

burnt goblet Jan 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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close enough

viral fjord Jan 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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is there a better arrangement

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there is room for 1 more fan on the front panel and 3 on the top panel

buoyant mirage Jan 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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@knotty eagle is that deepcool fan splitter worth getting? i have 2 fans i dont have a header for

merry crown Jan 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@buoyant mirage these works great https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812119873

buoyant mirage Jan 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Thanks for that amazon has a 2 pack for 9 dollars

merry crown Jan 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Well i used that on my old case which worked wonders

buoyant mirage Jan 12, 2020, 4:55 AM

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finally got good quality fans just need to power them all now

tough heath Jan 12, 2020, 3:52 PM

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if i have a case fan above my cpu cooler is it better to suck air or blow air at it

knotty eagle Jan 12, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Top should always be exhaust

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Heat rises

karmic igloo Jan 12, 2020, 7:30 PM

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for the price, the hyper 212 evo is a reallly good cpu cooler right

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also on the mobo there is a pump fan header. if i run out of case fan headers can i use that header. (yes i know there are hubs and splitters but just wanna know if pump fan header will work with fans)

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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whats a good 360mm liquid cooling

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Thermaltake Water 3.0

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https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-water-3-0-360-argb-sync-edition-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835106564?Description=thermaltake water 3.0&cm_re=thermaltake_water_3.0-_-35-106-564-_-Product

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:54 AM

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what about this one https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181139?Item=N82E16835181139

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will that thermaltake mount on the top of this https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069

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@copper patrol

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:57 AM

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supposedly yes

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but then again a 240mm rad was supposed to fit in my case on the top and it didnt

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so theres no telling really

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but most likely it will

sharp zinc Jan 13, 2020, 12:57 AM

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how did it not fit in your case?

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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would block the motherboard

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technically it can fit the 240mm rad, but thats only if you dont want a motherboard

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-_-

sharp zinc Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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oh yeh thats a common problem from what ive seen. just saw a part of the mobo off

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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will it fit mine

sharp zinc Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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bam done

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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idk

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they advertise that it will

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but theres no telling unless you find a review or get hands on with it

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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im putting a atx motherboard in that case

sharp zinc Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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it depends on the mobo, rad, and case, and we dont have the means to measure that to tell you if it can fit lol

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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also that corsair one is good, but its the same cost as the thermaltake one but doesnt have rgb fans

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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i dont like that rgb crap

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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oh

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well then that cosair one will be good

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the pump head has rgb, but its easy to turn it off

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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and it will fit

copper patrol Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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ill say it again, i do not know for sure

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but they advertise that it will

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im going to go do my homework now

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 1:01 AM

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would a 240 be better

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181141?Item=N82E16835181141

blissful dagger Jan 13, 2020, 1:09 AM

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whats up folks

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so my AMD FX-6300 keeps getting up to about 140 sometimes 150 degrees Farenheight.....I've got a stock cooler on it...those temperatures are not normal i assume

upbeat anchor Jan 13, 2020, 1:17 AM

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nah that's not too hot

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that like 60c

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which is perfectly fine

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 1:32 AM

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im running fx8350 and mine never gets above 40

upbeat anchor Jan 13, 2020, 1:37 AM

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yeah but temps aren't a problem until you pass 75-80 imo

burnt goblet Jan 13, 2020, 2:14 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-6300

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max temp for the fx-6300 is 70.5c

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-8350

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max temp for the fx-8350 is 61c

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 3:30 AM

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im using the hyper evo 212

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but on my next build 3700x with liquid cooling

hidden mural Jan 13, 2020, 4:08 AM

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my case fits 240mm rads but it has them kind of off-center

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re: earlier conversations

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Anyone have R22/R410a/R290 hvac experience?

topaz blaze Jan 13, 2020, 8:26 AM

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if i cut up my side panel and mounted a 120 mm intake fan to it would i get better thermals

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only have an 80mm exaust

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leave my side off

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83-86c with it on 76c max with it off

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I have HVAC experience

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What do you need

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@idle tiger

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Would a yellow jacket 4 valve 3/8 manifold for r22/410a be suitable for general use? I can't decide if I want to go for a nice gague set/hoses or try "hard mode" with a $25 set and a $60 vacuum pump.

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Would that happen to be the titan

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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My "math" says 3 meters of .03 capilary for a 200w heat load at -20c

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Ya, I think so. There are some nice 2 valve gague sets from yellow jacket at $100 though

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I would go with 410 because of how efficient it is and it is much cheaper then say 22 because of the phase out but the gauges look great and off of my head the math seems right

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Ya, I don't have the EPA permit so R22 is probably out of reach. I do have a 15k btu, and another 8k laying around though.

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Both very old and basically scrap. I have another junk r410a 5k btu unit, but the POE oil is definitely oxidized - not sure if that compressor is worth/can be saved.

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Oh yeah get a tech to take it to the plant or of course you could leak but r410a is safe to leak along 134a but dont get caught

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Fortunately these window AC units are dirt cheap old/used in my area.

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The r410a 5k unit accidentally had a wrench dropped on it, coolant loss, oops

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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To make sound it more believable you could say that the vibration was grinding to of the pipe together and caused a leak

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Two

idle tiger Jan 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I'll plant a tree or two 🙂 Thanks - ya these yellow jacket tools seem well reviewed.

placid latch Jan 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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They are fantastic I have a couple sets snd the bluetooth one which to be honest was so worth but know they are so expensive

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Most of them have a built in pt chart

wet laurel Jan 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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does sthis case hvae good cooling
https://www.amazon.com.au/Cooler-Master-MCW-L5S3-KGNN-02-MasterBox-Version/dp/B075MYYFC8/ref=pd_ybh_a_14?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=H5FGAS3094847QCAPWA8&th=1

Cooler Master MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00 MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG: Amazon.com.a...

Cooler Master MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00 MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Do you guys know any good full coverage aios for threadripper minus enermax?

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:31 PM

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https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:34 PM

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@knotty eagle alot those not full coverage only i see is EKWB which custom loop block?

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:34 PM

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That's the thing, if AMD has approved it for use, it doesn't necessarily need to be full coverage

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And the Cooler Masters are full coverage, BTW

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Have a look at them

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:35 PM

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interesting i was looking at jaytwocentz video said most those aios bad for TR

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thanks again for help anyway

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i think astek was showing full coverage aios too at CES so theirs hope

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@knotty eagle would you trust that coolermaster version?

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Yes

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CM aio's are good

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:38 PM

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feelsbadman it sold out

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:39 PM

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All three versions? 240, 280 and 360?

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:39 PM

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360

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i am using 3970x

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so i want big aio to cool it

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@knotty eagle its only rated for 133w TR4 version would it best to wait for astek to make proper aios?

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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What is only rated for 133 watts?

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:44 PM

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yeah i am looking at reviews for it

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coolermaster tr4 version

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Bulloney

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:45 PM

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idk i was looking at amazon so i maybe it was mainstream version?

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 2:46 PM

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dont ever trust a storefront to have accurate info

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:46 PM

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i wished Newegg would restock with coolermaster tr4 than

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:46 PM

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ML360 has as 320W TDP rating lol

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:46 PM

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O

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you guys think Newegg will have stock soon?

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 2:47 PM

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no clue, i have newer shopped there :)

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:47 PM

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O

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 2:47 PM

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shipping is a bit high

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:48 PM

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makes sense

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 2:48 PM

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kinda comes with being roughly half a globe away from their main storage facility

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:49 PM

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i should be able to mount this aio with my trx40 board right?

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@knotty eagle this is same aio right?

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https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml360-rgb-tr4-edition-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00023

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just wanna make sure before i buy it

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 2:52 PM

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yes

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 2:52 PM

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re: using a TR4 cooler on a TRX40 socket: the sockets are physically identical, but electrically different

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Ok

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alright thanks again i should have cooler friday

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Nice!

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Good thermal paste?

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 3:00 PM

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i have noctua for paste

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that should be good right>

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?

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Noctua what?

low pumice Jan 14, 2020, 3:04 PM

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the NT-H1 I assume

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or NT-H2

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@knotty eagle https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nt-h2-10g/p/2MB-0026-00006?Description=noctua thermal paste&cm_re=noctua_thermal_paste-_-9SIAADY8R70442-_-Product

low pumice Jan 14, 2020, 3:05 PM

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yea nt h2

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 3:05 PM

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i got 4 of these

knotty eagle Jan 14, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Yeah that's fine

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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i am going lie kinda shock noctua don't have any D15,D16 for TR

low pumice Jan 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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The thing is, it might actually just be too big

burnt goblet Jan 14, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@topaz blaze it IS a lot of heat

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and considering that the thermal loads we are talking about are normally "solved" by a LOT of airflow (with accompanying noise levels)

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it makes sense to go liquid

topaz blaze Jan 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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yeah astek showed off with asus a 420 aio for TR

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it had like 700w heat dissipation or something

autumn solstice Jan 14, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Two AMD Rome 32c processors are pretty much consistently hot enough to require the little turbine fans in the 1u to be going fairly hard, at least.

modest cargo Jan 14, 2020, 8:45 PM

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is it alright for an i7 4790k to stay around 70c package temp while gaming?

magic wave Jan 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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well i upgraded from 2 case fans to 4

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just bought the same model as what my case came with

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cost me $17

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my peak cpu temp is now 66

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not bad

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now i have a question though

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what effect do the cpu and gpu cooler have on the air pressure in the case

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i tried to arrange my case fans for neutral pressure but i don't know how the cpu and gpu cooler affect it

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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honestly not much unless you have a blower GPU

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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blower gpu?

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like fan cooled?

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or is it something different entirely

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my gpu uses 2 fans

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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single fan pushes air out the the back

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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oh

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my gpu has 2 fans in the front

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and i am using amd wraith spire for cpu

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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2 fan models do not push much air out of the case

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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so my air pressure should be fairly close to neutral then?

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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yes you should be if all the case fans are running at the same speed

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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they're all the same model

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2 intakes at the bottom of the front panel, 1 exhaust at the top of the back panel, 1 exhaust at the back of the top panel

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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also neutral pressure really only adds a negligible amount of cooling

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it used to be a bigger deal than it is now

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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i did a lot of googling and from what i gathered

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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there are other benefits as well such as reduced strain on fans

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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people debated a lot on positive vs negative

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but nobody ever said anything bad about neutral

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so thats what i aimed for

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lol

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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its still good to try and maintain neutral but it doesnt have to be perfect

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same amount of fans pushing as pulling is good enough

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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the gpu and cpu cooler are probably throwing it off from being purely neutral but i don't really have the means to account for it

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sooo close enough

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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they are certainly creating their own vortexes of air in the case disrupting the flow of air however it shouldnt really matter

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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in any case I'm really happy with my temps now

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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thats the important thing

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if was heating up beyond normal then you would need to make a change

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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went from 30 idle 76 load to 25 idle 66 load

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for $17

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not bad

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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airflow is important

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and I guess that was really my point adding another 2 more fans would do far more than maintaining perfect neutral up to the point where you cant lower the ambient temp of the inside of the case any more. Air flow is the key

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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they are all 0.38A fans which I noticed is higher than most fans but not sure what that actually entails

kind apex Jan 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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would depend more on the rpms blade size and angle vs current going to fans

viral fjord Jan 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I assume more current makes them spin faster