lol
#old-cooling
ancient stag
daring pivot
i linked him to a great $600 prebuilt
that one
if he chooses to go for the other one, then no skin off my nose
feral merlin
UserBenchmarks: Game 54%, Desk 69%, Work 45%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 - 75.9%
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP - 54.3%
SSD: WDC WDS500G2B0B-00YS70 500GB - 102.2%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 2400 C15 2x8GB - 86.7%
MBD: Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING
Just a basic build
plain wigeon
I'm buying the pc from Best Buy
silent raptor
this "never buy prebuilt" thing has always confused me a bit
off the shelf ones suck, sure, but you can find some great ones online
just gotta get me something like a 2060 super and I'll be golden, since the 5820K is still damn strong even at stock
(i am canadian so most anything above a 2070 is out of reach financially :L)
just gotta know what to look for when buying gaming prebuilts online
and buy them as an upgrade platform rather than a finished product imo
(bonus points if they come with the holy grail of system builder drives, aka the 1TB WD Blue, as the mechanical disk too. that thing will always be a steal)
worldly lodge
Sup people. I'm starting a new build and was looking for an AIO. I was planning on getting the
CORSAIR - Hydro Series H100i PRO but I'm trying to save money! The cpu is a intel 8700k in a NZXT H500 case. Any help?!
topaz blaze
hold on
hmm fits up to 280mm rad...
@worldly lodge This is the cheapest I could find that is a good brand: https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-240-lite-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835103252
that also still has good cooling
that saves you $86 over that Corsair cooler you mentioned.
worldly lodge
Thanks, very helpful @topaz blaze
topaz blaze
You're welcome.
neat epoch
ryzen is starting to step up their game
alpine grotto
Just a lot
native sapphire
is there a kit to buy to test pc watercooling loop with the air method
topaz blaze
@native sapphire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6AY7oaf28
native sapphire
perfect thanks
rough barn
there any help elves nearby that know much about liquid metal cooling in regards to conforml coating and kapton taping around cpu and gpu of an aw 17 r4?
semi new and needing some researing beforehand 😃
not even sure if i should be asking in cooling, or in cpu channel actually
mossy bough
Does anyone here know much about building your own cooling loop?
river gorge
What would you like to know @mossy bough
copper patrol
thermaltake has an all in one kit for about $500
aka everything you need to build your own loop
worldly heath
for cpu only...
mossy bough
Well good brands, necessary parts, testing, refer me to guides... I want to cool both CPU and GPU. I'm thinking about how I could set up for MSI RTX 2080 Ti Sea Hawk
river gorge
EKWB makes fluid gaming kits
mossy bough
I'm not planning on upgrading until sometime fall 2020 but still starting research on this part.
river gorge
which has everything you need with out guessing.
downside it's aluminum.
upside, affordable
mossy bough
Anything copper?
mossy bough
Do they sell all in one kits like ekwb?
river gorge
yes
their kits I believe are Hard tubing
@ivory frigate is king of Thermaltake loop building.
mossy bough
@ivory frigate want to help someone out? :P
worldly heath
I find it annoying that their configurator doesn't let you order the components directly
it just tells you what you should get, then you need to track down where you can buy everything, because you can't even buy them all off their website
worldly heath
oh that's new, last time I checked a couple of weeks ago they didn't have that option
worldly heath
hm, the config I have is actually cheaper from ekwb
ivory frigate
@mossy bough whats up?
river gorge
teach them the ways of custom water lewp.
ivory frigate
thats harder then it sounds.
mossy bough
Her*
But yes
I wanna learn custom water stuff
I got a big thermaltake level 20 case and need to LED and pipe it up with cool stuff
ivory frigate
@mossy bough buy lots of tube and practice bends
ivory frigate
Yes you will waste some learning to bend it unless you do all straight pieces and fittings.
mossy bough
Hmm okay
dark ginkgo
worldly heath
Why is your ram running at such low frequency? And why do you have calculator running as a background process?
opaque mural
How much better is a 280 vs a 240 mm radiator?
worldly heath
there's no simple answer to that, it depends a lot on your components, ambient temperature, etc
subtle flower
Idk where too post this but my deep cool CPU cooler came in pieces and I'm pretty sure that's not supposed to happen
It's just like they didn't put it together and just shipped a bunch of loose parts.
daring pivot
because they did
all coolers come that way
which DeepCool cooler did you get specifically?
subtle flower
The instructions on the back of the box say to apply the whole cooler. No assembly instructions
daring pivot
what's the model number?
subtle flower
Gammaxx 400. Lemme find model number
subtle flower
LGA
daring pivot
subtle flower
MSI Z370 a-pro to be exact. Thanks for your help. I've always used stock coolers and was really confused.
daring pivot
they do it like that because it supports such a wide range of sockets
subtle flower
See there it's pre assembled too, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be pre assembled and mine came apart. XD
daring pivot
no it's not
subtle flower
I'll figure out how to attach the fan to the body
daring pivot
he literally assembles it in the video
subtle flower
It's the fan to heat sink. I can't figure out how to clip it on for the life of me
The fan is on the heat sink in that video
daring pivot
oh, they're springs
there's a groove in the heatsink that the springs sit in either side
subtle flower
I'm missing one of those, it only came with one, which is why I assume it came apart in the box.
I only have one, shouldn't I have two?
In the video there's 2 keeping the fan on.
daring pivot
you should have 2
make sure it's not hiding under one of the flaps in the bottom of the box
subtle flower
I did, I even broke down the box and checked in the second box.
I don't seem to have it
Which is probably why I couldn't figure out how to assemble it, because I didn't have the necessary parts 😂
I'll just contact the seller to see if they can ship me a replacement spring mechanism and if not I'll find a way to get it to stay. I got a house full of stuff and will improvise if need be.
Thanks for all the help!
daring pivot
yeah, either them or DeepCool themselves would be your options
subtle flower
Alright. There's also a warranty card in here so it should be of no issue. I can keep running my 8600k on an Intel stock cooler until then.
It's kinda funny how this thing can't work without a piece of metal that's probably worth ¢1-2
cosmic apex
subtle flower
Also I like this design. You can easily buy replacement fans for it
autumn depot
what is a good and nice thermal paste
topaz blaze
@autumn depot I use the "Arctic MX-4" thermal paste, it works great.
river gorge
that's good paste.
neat epoch
i do tp 😃
umbral onyx
So i just delidded my i7-7700k and i did some testing before but not enough im running prime 95 small ffts and avx all disabled and its running at an average of 64 degrees c
my ambient is about 20 c and im running a hyper 212 evo
does this seem normal?
topaz blaze
@umbral onyx that's confusing, you were getting those temps before the de-lidding or after the de-lidding after you put the heatspreader back on with new paste?
topaz blaze
🤔 that seems about right I think, intel doesn't run as hot as AMD does and that's a pretty good cooler.
What do you think Matt? ^ @daring pivot
daring pivot
uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh
the i9 series runs hot af btw
also yeah
those temps are about right
umbral onyx
okay thank you ❤
dark ginkgo
no idea @worldly heath
daring pivot
there are better options out there
alpine grotto
Bottom 2 fans... suck out air... but the GPU above it blows up... should I flip the fans to blow up as well or can that cause issues forcing the GPU fans to move when not needed? Or cause other issues? My last card blew down so I flipped them to help draw out hot...
river gorge
flip bottom two
alpine grotto
Will do. Up they will push...
Thank you
Had them pushing up when I first built... but swapped with old GPU..
river gorge
will help with the flow of air
warped void
Whats a good cooler for an i5 9600k
daring pivot
are you going to overclock?
warped void
maybe in the future but no for now
daring pivot
do you have a maximum you can spend?
warped void
prob 200
daring pivot
are you interested in all-in-one liquid coolers?
warped void
ok ill look at these thanks
daring pivot
and high end air: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BYP9S95/?tag=pcpapi-20
(sorry that one's not available on newegg)
warped void
ok
rough barn
anyone much familiar with thermal pads?
wether the price difference for using some 17.0W/mK pads, would be justified over just going with some 11.0W/mK pads
if the performance increase is enough to justify paying an extra $42.44
going on a replacement heatsink/fan assembly in a n AW 17 R4 gtx 1080 i7-7820hk that i'm already going to to be repasting with conductonaut liquid metal on both cpu and gpu
neat epoch
can some one recommend a cooler that hangs form the side. Idk what those coolers are called
daring pivot
all in one liquid coolers?
daring pivot
oh your best bet for something like that is probably the Dark Rock Pro 4 from Be Quiet
topaz blaze
I used the D15, only side-graded to the D15s because of PCIe slot proximity on a new board. I think they're about even, but I got a DR4 pro for a new build just to get my own opinion.
But ya, Noctua is top tier.
topaz blaze
54 noctua fans. Thanks newegg
finite mesa
Holy crap lol
copper patrol
topaz blaze
@proper hollow What is your cpu idle temp?
proper hollow
Like 41-5 C but im overclocked on all cores to 4.1
topaz blaze
nice
proper hollow
thinking of getiong a 3600 or 3700 when that drops
alpine grotto
Why not??
alpine grotto
@proper hollow that GPU so close to the fans gives me anxiety... lol
Good looking build though
proper hollow
theres a lot more clearance than it looks like
alpine grotto
Waiting for them to make a MOBO with the 24 pin and 8 pin on the back side so you don’t see any cables up front at all
topaz blaze
@cold island 3 mora3 rads in push/pull
mossy bough
Would it better to get a 120x480 radiator or a 140x420 radiator for most efficient cooking?
alpine grotto
Look at the overall surface area... bigger area better cooling.
120x480= 57600 140x420=58,800 roughly 1000 cubic MM different... .06 inches difference
So almost identical.... depending on if you want 3 140mm fans or 4 120mm fans.
mossy bough
What would be some good radiator fans, not too loud AND RGB? RGB is a must...
verbal prism
mossy bough
Hmm
mossy bough
Yeah that would be nice
river gorge
high static pressure is a must
keen raft
honestly cooling has always been so confusing with everybody's different logic about negative,positive etc.
tender crest
Quick question
From my understanding and experience, getting a high end air cooler is superior or at least equivalent to getting a high end AIO cooler.
For example would a Noctua NH-D15 out perform or be equivalent to Corsair H150i or let's say H100i? To be more precise for AMD Ryzen 7/9
proper hollow
its superior to a water cooler unless you do custom linus did a video where he proved the best was a bulky high end noctua
unless you need to move the computer around a lot a air cooler is better
tender crest
Yea that was my thought too. Also they are more quiet than AIO right?
or less noisy
proper hollow
yes
i just got a h115i platnunum because i travel between home and school occisionally and i just wanted rgb
tender crest
Gotcha
I used to have H110 (Like 4 years ago) with i7 5820k and then moved to Ryzen 7 1700 with same cooler and then changed my cooler to Noctua D14 and upgrade to Ryzen 7 2700x and I think my temps are reasonable for now
(Avg around 55c with 4.05 GHz all cores) I believe I can do better in OC but it is ok for now
I saw some improvements when moved to the air cooler and was wondering would it be the same if going up a notch with the air cooler or should I move to AIO
Thank you
verbal fox
Im still up in the air if I wanna use the Kraken X52 or the Noctua in my ITX build 
worldly heath
do you want looks and low noise, or raw performance?
daring pivot
except Noctua are low noise and raw performance
worldly heath
even compared to aio?
worldly heath
my kraken is pretty much silent majority of the time...
daring pivot
verbal fox
Yeah
It really doesnt matter to me
But I have seen alot of reviews about Krakens pumps failing
Thing is Im getting an Nzxt case
It would look cool
But I could benefit from not having the radiator take up two fan slots and using fans to help cool the 5700xt
dark mirage
What are the best cheap rgb case fans, 120 or 140
copper patrol
i think hes asking which ones are recommended and they can be either 120 or 140
dark mirage
yea
topaz blaze
@dark mirage ^
river gorge
cinder elbow
Hello folks
river gorge
hello WTF.
topaz blaze
subtle flower
Omfg so I thought my fan was making this god awful rattling sound but it was my case panels from the vibration of the fan.
feral patrol
oof jeez
subtle flower
I wasad because I just bought this $40 deepcool fan
It's now nearly dead silent at 100%
fierce slate
any pros here for hardlining?
sinful roost
That's what she said
alpine grotto
DANG!!
topaz blaze
I'm a fan fan https://puu.sh/DS67a.jpg
alpine grotto
Lots of cooling power...
ivory sluice
Hey guys, I am building in a thermaltake v200 case. Its not a high end rig so dont need crazy cooling was just wondering what some good fans are that are cheap. Case came with 3 front fans and a rear exhaust fan and i have a cpu fan. Was looking for 2 cheap fans for top of case 120 or 140 with or without rgb
Noctua looks good for nonrgb. Any good rgb where you can get 2-3 for under 50? Lol
copper patrol
that is some really wishful thinking lol
at least for addressable rgb
oh actually
hold on
@ivory sluice
heres a full list of case fans up to or equal to $50 with addressable rgb
some of those come with a remote, and others are addressable through software so be careful which ones you get
and if you are getting software controlled ones make sure theyre compatible with your motherboard software
tbh i would go with this one
i know its the same as the other link i posted but its sold directly through newegg ;p
ivory sluice
Thank ill look when i get home. My case came with a controller so will have to check that out too
mossy bough
I bought 2x thermaltake pure 20 argb sync fans for the front of my thermaltake Level 20 xt case and they don't fit :)
200mm fans
mossy bough
The case fits 2x 200mm
cold island
what kinda temps would a 3700x+ 9x14a fan be
topaz blaze
@cold island what is a "9x14a fan"?
cold island
Noctua 92mm slim fan @topaz blaze
topaz blaze
@cold island On what cooler? Are you talking about replacing that CPU coolers stock fan with that Noctua fan?
cold island
the Black Ridge cooler
topaz blaze
@cold island This is the only "black ridge" cooler i could find: https://www.shop4megastore.com/heatsinks/alpenfohn-black-ridge-low-profile-cpu-cooler-120mm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=google+shopping+data+feed+(10/07/2019-15:09)&gclid=cjwkcajwg-dpbrbbeiwaev1_-hzwdrp8pzzm5rgafe1ixeooiz7lhzsy7pl5bmaqpbjkp08uddsasbocn30qavd_bwe is that it?
And newegg does not even sell it.
topaz blaze
@cold island No ones reported on the temps for that combo yet. That cpu just came out.
cold island
yeah, wondered if anybody had one
cold island
But it should be fine since it’s a 95tdp cooler
covert falcon
Should I get an Nh-u12s for 3700x? What about 3600x
copper patrol
ive heard the u12s is good
covert falcon
And what about a 3900x?
topaz blaze
u12s is a good cooler. Honestly, for the 3900x, the only noctua's I'd recommend are the D15/s and the new U12A
cold island
Am I the only one who thinks this looks nice https://img2.sbzimg.com/newg/C/A/-/CA-CAP24AW/CA-CAP24AW.1_LG.JPG
ivory sluice
wish these gave more info on what you need to hook up, unless im missing it https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-cl-f063-pl12sw-a-case-fan/p/N82E16835106533
my mobo doesn't support RGB but can this be controlled with software without hooking to motherboard? what does it need to plug in other than molex
looks like it could plug into usb on motherboard for software but not sure
ah k manual looks like it plugs into a usb 2.0
wanton sparrow
anyone know how long it normally takes for noctua fans to be in stock again? it's been almost 15 days since the a12 pwm's have been in stock so
topaz blaze
@wanton sparrow You should message "Newegg Service" under "newegg staff" in discord next time they are online and ask them.
wanton sparrow
@real coyote I would like to inquire about the expected restocking time on Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans. They have been out of stock and the genuine Noctua listing gone for at least 16 days according to my auto notify list. While in the process of building a PC right now, I'm just wondering if it will be hours or weeks until they are restocked. Thanks much!
real coyote
Hi there @wanton sparrow . I can try and look further into that for you. Can you send us a private message with a link as I do see several listings. Thanks!
keen raft
Heres a question, If my motherboard has multiple sensors for temperature. But the Bios only lets you select use motherboard for fan curve, What sensor does it typically use?
signal thistle
Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. I’m looking for a tall reservoir/pump combo. What’s the best rated ones out there? I’ve looked at EK, bitspower, thermaltake, and alphacool. I like EK but it would require me buying a taller res after buying a pump/res combo.
copper patrol
i know thermaltake is a good brand
but uhhhhhhhh
well
dont buy their coolant right now
unless you want that happening after 2 months lol
cold island
@copper patrol didn’t know u had a custom loop
cold island
:/
copper patrol
thats @ivory frigate 's gpu
ivory frigate
That is NOT true at all!
copper patrol
ivory frigate
Thermaltake's Pure Clear coolant is one of the best on the market. The P1000, maybe have some issues, but the other coolant is fine.
copper patrol
oh lol my bad
ivory frigate
You were close @copper patrol
copper patrol
D:
lucid idol
whats the best way to check if your cooler is faulty?
copper patrol
if your thermals are bad 
lucid idol
well yeah, but all the software shows things are running
like my pump is running 2700 RPM
but on stock settings with MCE on my 9900K reaches 85C immediately in Prime95 (Small FFT), then over time it equalizes around 94C
I just took the cooler off and reapplied thermal paste and still the same results.
Did I just lose the silicon lottery or is my application of thermal paste bad?
or my cooler
subtle flower
Depends. If it's a pea size or more (more won't hurt it just makes it look ugly, despite hate) in the center it should be fine. A bigger deal is making sure your water block is making strong contact with the cpu
If that contact is too loose it won't cool
lucid idol
I have an H150I
copper patrol
for which processor
lucid idol
9900k
copper patrol
subtle flower
🔥🔥🔥🔥
lucid idol
I have made sure all of the screws are as tight as I can make them while finger tightening them. I idle around 40-45C according to HWMonitor
subtle flower
Finger tightening is often not enough
I would get a screwdriver and tighten them a half rotation at a time
lucid idol
this is my 3rd build and ive never had a problem before, so this is all new to me. I will try to tighten them a little more. I remember watching a video (reliable source) not to tighten more than finger tightening though
subtle flower
I've never had a problem. A bit of board pressure won't harm it
Just dont strip or crack the board
That's why you do half a turn on all four at a time
topaz blaze
Check out aida64 or hwinfo64 for comprehensive sensor suites, hwmonitor is a little outdated, hasn't gotten updates since 2015 afaik.
The readings for VCCIO/VCCSA are very high. This is a common issue when running XMP or auto with high clock speed (4000+MHz memory). VCCIO/VCCSA at 1.2-1.3V is far more common. >1.3V can be considered risky with >1.4 reserved for sub-ambient cooling.
cursive hawk
topaz blaze
PCPP is a great way to check compatibility as well as seeing how people chose to mount the AIO.
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/VwbXsY
finite mesa
Anyone have any good case fan recommendations? My case is getting pretty hot since it only has one exhaust fan. Rgb is not needed
topaz blaze
Arctic P12 and P14's are a great value with the P14 5 pack being $33. You can find better, but that often means $20+ per fan.
cobalt lark
had to shorten the links but
does my mobo https://bit.ly/2YPH9hr have the connectors for these? https://amzn.to/31ruEq9
obsidian sphinx
sinful roost
Yes
dawn needle
How much would my temps change on my 2600x if i went from the wraith spire to to a 280 aio?
primal tartan
best silent water cpu cooler for the new zen 2 amd cpus
clever berry
are the temps too high @dawn needle?
warm comet
Your temps should go down quite considerably. on my 2600(non x) I would quite normally see the temps go up near 80C when overclocking to 4ghz on the stock spire cooler. Just swapping it to the wraith prism from my 2700x saw the temps go down to around 60C
I haven't tried my aio on my 2600 yet
dawn needle
Hmmm i hit high 70s on games and low 90s on prime95, do you think i can keep everything under 70-60?
I don't want to spend 130 bucks for something that doesnt give me a vig performance boost
warm comet
Seems reasonable. I know the stock spire on the 2600x is much larger than the spire on the nonx. You wont see a huge performance boost either way. if you are using PBO and XFR it will only go so far
unless you are seeing your boost speeds drop a lot from temps that is.
warm comet
you might see it hold somewhere around 4.1 if you can keep the temps low enough
dawn needle
Hmm. I just dont like seeing temps get into the high 70s
I am on 1440p so its not the bottlneck, but its still being taxed
warm comet
it might still go that high with a liquid cooler. If your temps are low enough on ryzen it will increase voltage to try and hit higher boost clocks
dawn needle
Right, im worried that it wont go higher
warm comet
after a few seconds the voltage drops back down, but it will go up to around 1.5v from time to time
warm comet
my only experience with pbo and xfr is from my 2700x and I know for the few tests I did with the wraith prism vs an 240mm aio I saw the boost clocks go up by about 200mhz in games
dawn needle
Hmm
warm comet
I have never actually ran my 2600 without a manual overclock so I dont know how it reacts with temps
and it works differently from an X cpu so it wouldnt be comparable
finite mesa
Which fan do you think is better
I'm considering either buying the corsair 2 pack or two noctuas
warm comet
If you set manual fan profiles the ML's will probably be better, but they are very loud at full rpm
dawn needle
What do you mean it would work differently because its an x cpu?
warm comet
the boost algorithm on the x cpus is different than non x
and they also get xfr
my 2600 wont go over 3.9ghz, and was usually closer to 3.6ghz with all core loads
thats why I never really ran or tested it without a manual overclock
dawn needle
Interesting
topaz blaze
I think I'll mount the fans in the correct place this time. https://puu.sh/E3Ykx/cdaad3d3f3.jpg
alpine grotto
Don’t do it... it’s a trap.. lol
mossy bough
Why are noctua fans so ugly?
topaz blaze
Does negative RGB also increase FPS?
cold island
no it decreases it
signal thistle
Hello everyone! I’ve seen all kinds of recommendations for how long to leak test cooling loop. What’s everyone’s go to time frame to leak check?
topaz blaze
@signal thistle I would suggest trying this for more safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6AY7oaf28
signal thistle
@topaz blaze Thank you for the reply! I actually just seen this reply but i put a little air pressure with the coolant in the system with tons of paper towels around and only had one leak from the o-ring where the reservoir bottom attaches to the pump. The o-ring was cut so it must have been from factory. All is well now and this computer is a beast!!
topaz blaze
@signal thistle Oh ok, it's good you got it all sorted out, enjoy!!
bleak inlet
How would one go about adding fans to a case?
topaz blaze
The fans should come with screws. Easy to check size compatibility online.
TL;DR do it 100% the opposite way that I did in the photo above
bleak inlet
What about powering them?
topaz blaze
At very worst you might have to buy a few dollars worth of adapter/dongle, but actual power use by fans vs psu capacity is a non-concern.
Main ting to check is how many 120mm/140mm fan mounts said case has.
bleak inlet
Thanks. I’ll look into it
signal thistle
Hey is 62c good for about 30min of prime95 with a 3900x? It's watercooled
signal thistle
Okay thank you! First time watercooling so wasn't really sure if the watercooling is doing a good job or not
I tried googling good watercooling temps for 3900x but the answers were all over the place
dawn needle
Could i get 200mm fans in my corsair 780t case? it has the 200mm slots but it doesnt look like they will fit? plus i can barely find any lol
topaz blaze
signal thistle
Appreciate the link @topaz blaze
leaden yacht
I would like to watercool my 1080ti and have plans to do so, but missing a waterblock, and cant find any nice looking ones (preferably RGB) let alone any on things other than sketchy sites
cold island
uh EK has a nice one
native tiger
anyone used any custom water cooling for threadripper? Wondering if the "EoL" EK blocks are still the best
topaz blaze
It's gonna depend on your budget. The heatkiller IV is the current crowd favorite I think.
native tiger
kinda new to custom liquid cooling... any difference between the acetal and the acryl?
alpine grotto
Spelling of them.. lol
native tiger
I'm surprised how expensive these parts are, 125 for the vega 64 heatkiller block
alpine grotto
Yeah, priced out a loop today... almost 600$ for CPU alone... 980$ for CPU and GPU
native tiger
I'll have to look into how to price out a kit
worldly heath
I wanted to do a custom EK loop in my system, but they don't make a full block that fits my evga 1080ti hybrid...
signal thistle
@native tiger I just bought and completed a custom cpu/gpu loop this weekend and it was roughly $750
That's including pump/res, taller res tube, fans, rad, PETG, bending kit, fitting, waterblocks, and gpu backplate
$780 if you count the heat gun from homedepot
I will say though, that I barely used the bending mandrels because I couldn't get the look I wanted so I just free handed my bends
keen raft
And this is why AIO's have risen to popularity...
I tried pricing out a loop and was like well... I think I'm going to try something else.
warm comet
I dont even know how much I spent on my loop, but it was probably somewhere in the $500 range and I have a card that came with a waterblock from the manufacturer.
Plus the 5 LL120 fans if we are counting fans
Its not a cheap thing to invest in, but I kept an eye out for sales and bought mine slowly over about 8 months.
worldly heath
@signal thistle where did you get everything from? And does it include cpu and gpu blocks?
signal thistle
@worldly heath I got it all at Microcenter 4 hours from me, and that does include cpu and gpu waterblocks
I would have ordered from EK's site but saw that shipping can take a bit sometimes
copper patrol
@ivory frigate i need your expertise lol
my dad wants to put together a computer with an i9 extreme processor, and i recommended a custom loop, is there anything i need to know?
i know i need a pump, reservoir, tubing, water blocks for the cpu and gpu, and fittings
and keep the metals the same
oh and coolant obviously lol
ivory frigate
can you come to chat?
copper patrol
yeah, i just gotta be quiet because im supposed to be sleeping rn lol
ivory frigate
ok
cold island
well first of tell him to get threadripper @copper patrol
copper patrol
nah
copper patrol
Intel Core i9-9920X Skylake X 12-Core 3.5 GHz (4.4 GHz Turbo) LGA 2066 165W BX80673I99920X Desktop Processor https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16819117963?m_ver=1
cold island
copper patrol
ok
cold island
Or heck this for the same price https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Threadripper-48-Thread-Processor-YD297XAZAFWOF/dp/B07JBQJ1D9
copper patrol
amazon link
copper patrol
ok
cold island
ok theo
copper patrol
i think my dad prefers intel
native tiger
+1 for thread ripper
copper patrol
i think we were going for the 9920x because its closest to the 9900k in single threaded performance
and its better in multi core performance
if that makes sense
cold island
but the 9900k isnt a workstation cpu :l
copper patrol
ok
cold island
its good at it, yes, but thats not the main focus for it
copper patrol
ok
native tiger
Oh jeez that 2990wx is so sexy
copper patrol
cold island
look at the workstation score
copper patrol
yeah, he is using it as a workstation
cold island
yeah that would be the main one to check out for cpus
copper patrol
but my brother also uses this computer for gaming
my dad and brother share the computer
instead of my brother getting a new one
cold island
ic
copper patrol
save a pretty penny
he wants 128gb of ram soooooo he has to get an extreme processor
because the only motherboards that have 8 ram slots are lga 2066
cold island
please tell me you live near a microcenter zack
copper patrol
hes coding a program he plans to sell out to companies that crunches through databases, so apparently it needs a lot of ram
eh like 30 minutes away
not bad
but 
cold island
you can get the 2970x for $800 https://www.microcenter.com/product/513570/ryzen-threadripper-2970wx-30ghz-24-core-tr4-boxed-processor
native tiger
If your dad is needing that kind of power, he might want to think about getting a server
native tiger
Actually, if I'm 100% honest, if this is purely for Dev, I'd suggest he start looking at cloud
cold island
what is the budget he was looking at @copper patrol ?
copper patrol
no budget yet
cold island
ic
copper patrol
but im sure hes willing to go around $5000
native tiger
He could build his app much more easily on an AWS instance, be able to reach potential customers, and test the application so much easier
cold island
what kind of gpu would you even put in that kinda thing
copper patrol
im thinking uhhhhhhh 9920x, a gtx 1660ti, and a custom loop for water cooling
he doesnt game, my brother does
cold island
oh so not a super big gpu
copper patrol
in his current system he has a 1070, and the 1660ti is about 5% slower than it
with the trade off being i get the 1070 
cold island
hehe i have its big brother
copper patrol
i HaVe A 5700xT bEcAuSe 
cold island
:l its a 1070 ti silly
copper patrol
cold island
only cause it was a good deal
copper patrol
oh oops this is #old-cooling
cold island
yeah
copper patrol
how about #cpus-mobo-and-memory
copper patrol
WAIT WHAT
i just learned something
if you press ctrl+backspace you delete the previous word
cold island
yea
cold island
wut
copper patrol
alright im moving to #cpus-mobo-and-memory
merry crown
@topaz blaze Ill just ping you down here for this cause i noticed this room just now but how good would this be for my 2600 https://www.newegg.ca/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00015
and i do plan on overclocking it in the future
I am always on a tight budget so i always look for what i can afford for cooling my system
topaz blaze
Yo don't need to worry about your 2.5" ssd temps usually. At least not in the use case you showed me.
In fact, NAND memory likes being a bit warmer.
Not worth overclocking your 2600 much, AIOs are a waste of money if you just want performance
Get an AIO for aesthetics, space requirements, or sturdiness.
merry crown
For SSD's i try now to avoid Adata cause i bought awhile back the SU650 and after a month i was getting 50c-60c so i have to still RMA it
topaz blaze
Is the 50c-60c the only reason you RMA'd?
merry crown
Well when it was hitting those temps everything in my system cause i was using that for my OS was super slow
and when i plugged it into an external not doing a thing was still showing 50c on average
topaz blaze
Googling it seems like that model just has a temp problem, so putting a fan on them is smart.
merry crown
Well i am thinking of doing the RMA to see if i have one that might be better on temps and then give it to my cousin for his system cause he has for his main OS a 60gb SSD
dawn needle
oooof
dry spoke
I've used them in the past. They're good for how cheap they are, but they're not top quality. Of the cheaper brands they're one of the best I've found. They tend to be mid level for noise
clear moat
Thoughts on side mounted fans? Seems to me like it'd just screw up the airflow mounted the way they're usually pictured (exhaust).
primal tartan
if it pulls out hot air how is that a bad thing?
worldly heath
Having too much air being pulled could be bad
I think it was Linus that tested all the different air flow patterns
primal tartan
I think people look way too much into things. Unless your cpu is throttling who cares
worldly heath
One of the issues Linus was testing was dust buildup, but I can't remember which setup had issues with it
warm comet
a lot of it depends on if you have dust filters or not. if so, then positve pressure is best because the only dust getting in your system is coming through the dust filters. with negative pressure (more fans blowing out) then dust is coming in through every hole or gap it can find a way in through. Back when cases were all horrible and had no airflow in the 90's and early 2000's I was a big fan of negative pressure to try and get more airlfow coming is around the bottom or the small slits in the case side panel to help cool the gpu. These days I would say positive pressure or equal pressure is better just to keep dust at a minimum. Unless you buy a poorly designed case most cases flow well enough for it to not be an issue.
wary juniper
quick question, Got a GPU installed on my pc couple days ago. it runs around 80C on any game I play regardless of load. is that normal?
haven't checked idle temperature.
copper patrol
80c is okay
wary juniper
ok cool. Thanks!
worldly heath
have you checked if your fans are actually turning on? While 80C is fine for the GPU, I do find it a bit strange for it to be that hot on any game
topaz blaze
i just left my pc running full steam with a game running on all night with the cabinet doors closed 0-0
lilac rampart
How was the aftermath?
topaz blaze
toasty headset mouse and keyboard and pc that hates me
worldly heath
You keep your PC in a cabinet?
native falcon
Hello anyone on
merry crown
maybe 🤔
native falcon
I have something to ask about my cooling system and why my fans rev 100% while playing any games
idk why but everytime I play any game my fans rev to 100% and I’ve changed it and looked at the settings and even turned them off myself my cpu temp was 68 after an hour of playing fortnite. I have a GTX 1080Ti gigabyte 11GB and a I7 8700 could it be my hard drive
merry crown
How often do you clean your GPU
native falcon
I’ve only had it for 3 weeks now
merry crown
dust and dirt can still accumulate on it
native falcon
I can clean it and see if that changes anything.
merry crown
for your fans i would usually suggest cause this is what i do is dip Q-tips in rubbing alcohol usually 70% or higher and rub around each blade and if you have a can of compressed air to also blow into the heatsink fins
native falcon
My temps stay relatively low. 65-70 with fans at 30-40 when I set them to that speed. I was thinking maybe my computer is trying to cool the HDD considering I only have one 6000rpm HDD it’s almost always at max load
merry crown
If your GPU fan is ramping up that high it isn't because of your HDD
native falcon
It’s my case fans that ramp up my GPU fans at between 30-60% while playing
merry crown
play around with the fan curves for your case fans if it is connected to your motherboard
native falcon
I have an Alienware I have an application to control my thermals
merry crown
You might need to ask someone else then cause the only thing i can think of is cleaning your system because any form of dust or hair can go in your system and even if it has a dust filter it can still block airflow which could result in high ramp fans
native falcon
Alright thanks anyway I’ll do that and check back later
merry crown
Always check when there is something going on with the fans cause most of the times and it has happened to me was that was the underlining problem
topaz blaze
DIY bulk order graphite TIM?
https://industrial.panasonic.com/cdbs/www-data/pdf/AYA0000/AYA0000C50.pdf
Seems like it needs a ton of mounting pressure to work well.
signal thistle
So I feel really dumb. I was trying to figure out why my 3900x was idling at low 40c's, over the last 2 weeks. I finally figured it out yesterday before work. I mounted my EK Supremacy upside down and I used the outlet as an inlet and inlet as an outlet. So, I flipped it around this morning when I woke up, leaked checked for an hour, and now it is running in the low 30c's woohoo! Learn from my mistake it actually matters to use the inlet as an inlet on these water blocks.
cold island
nice
topaz blaze
The first question I'd ask for any "is this too hot" question is what does ryzen mster say the package power is?
Hwinfo64, aida64 can be powerful tools themselves.
signal thistle
It's not that it was "too hot" I just knew that it should have been lower on the custom loop
abstract mantle
I was referred to this discord by a newegg customer rep
I need to ask a question about AIO water cooling
outer sierra
@abstract mantle whats up
abstract mantle
Hello @outer sierra I have an older style NZXT full size case
and my cpu as of late has been hitting 80 degrees celcius when installing programs and even playing games. I need to get a liquid cooler but I am unsure of what size cooler I need
if it were to be a 1 fan selection, 2 fan, or 3
outer sierra
So youre asking what size aio to get?
abstract mantle
yes
outer sierra
How much are you looking to spend?
abstract mantle
This would be my first aio and I do not know what size.
to be honest cost isn't that big of a deal
outer sierra
And how big is the case?
outer sierra
So you could fit a 360mm radiator if you really wanted to?
outer sierra
What are your idle temps
abstract mantle
35-50
outer sierra
Thats all within spec you arent having a temp problem
abstract mantle
all I am doing right now is downloading a game, and it is hitting those high temps.
so that is within spec?
outer sierra
Is your cpu under load or not
abstract mantle
how would I be able to check?
abstract mantle
48-50
abstract mantle
about 6 years ago
outer sierra
What cooler is on it right now
abstract mantle
stock cpu cooler
outer sierra
Is it an intel cpu?
abstract mantle
yes
outer sierra
Okay so yeah thats your problem
The stock coolers arent great
If you want a liquid cooler a 240mm radiator will be more than enough to cool your cpu
abstract mantle
what kind should I get?
outer sierra
You can get whatever you want. Air, liquid, it doesnt matter
Air coolers can be just as efficient nowadays
abstract mantle
liquid is what I am told is best
I have never installed one so of course I am unsure of how many fans to get and where they go
outer sierra
If you want a liquid cooler one with a 240mm radioator is good
abstract mantle
that is my problem
abstract mantle
yes and the top fans are huge
topaz blaze
noctua coolers for example are close to some CLCs/AIOs if someone were to have an aversion to putting water near their electronics
abstract mantle
I think 200mm
abstract mantle
2
outer sierra
Okay
So you have really 3 option for where you can mount a radiator
Front, back, or top
outer sierra
It doesnt matter where you mount it it has very little effect on coolong
Cooling
You just need one that fits obvi
abstract mantle
so 1 fan or 2 doesn't matter because the mount on top of the CPU is what I really need correct?
outer sierra
So the first step is to figure out where you want to/could mount the radiator
Well it all comes as 1 closed system
The bigger the radiator the better the cooling will be
abstract mantle
I am thinking the back is easiest
outer sierra
Okay then youll want to get a 120mm rad
abstract mantle
single fan right?
outer sierra
The fans would go on each side of the rad
outer sierra
So one in front one in back
Youd have one pulling air in and the other pushing air out
abstract mantle
this is incredibly helpful
outer sierra
Im glad i could help
outer sierra
Yeah so you can get one in a single fan if you want
It doesnt matter aslomg as the fan/rad is 120mm
My advice for liquid coolers would be a corsair, evga, or thermal take liquid cooler
abstract mantle
I was looking at this one https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835181140
outer sierra
Okay then yeah that one would work fine for you
abstract mantle
Thank you so much! you have been the biggest help I could ask for
outer sierra
Not a problen glad i could help!
abstract mantle
I hope you have a wonderful night.
outer sierra
You too sir
topaz blaze
I like this
I admit I didn't read all that, but I wan't to stress that you shouldn't buy an AIO because you only want the best performance. The top air coolers are about $90 vs $150+ for a comparable AiO.
Get an AIO for looks, RGB, all that
outer sierra
he wanted an aio
and hes geting a 12mm aio
120mm
that under 100
by evga
its gonna be fine
topaz blaze
Does anyone know a vrm waterblock available for the z390 taichi?
Just curious to if there is one
topaz blaze
I understand i may not be able to do much but my pc makes my room considerably uncomfortable due to the dissipated heat and so obviously over time makes it uncomfortable to sit in and also the pc technically wont get much cold air forever, is there any suggestions to what i could do? Tryna find an effective but somewhat cheap method
Just anything that can help get rid of that heat
topaz blaze
Your specific CPU + GPU idle is probably <100 W
Average gaming load let's say <300 W
A human that eats 3500 kcal/day ~170 W
The small window AC unit's manufacturer rating of 5000 BTU / hr = -1465 W
Upgrading from an 80+ gold to a titanium PSU on a +12V 20 Amp load = -10.9 W
Either make less heat, pump the heat out, or ?
How could i put the hear out?
Effectively
@topaz blaze
An air conditioner
Really?
Would that even help though
Cos that heats gotta go somewhere
merry crown
Room temperature does tend to have certain effects which is why during winter i open my window a small crack so i would have a room temp of 18c
topaz blaze
Oof
My windows open but it is still way too hot
To cope
Its only 23c here and it feels like 35/40c im being serious
😓
🙄
Have you considered buying a window AC unit?
Window ac unit?
Did you read the numbers I posted above?
Never heard of a window ac unit
In fairness, maybe that form factor isn't nearly as popular in the UK as it is here.
So know any decent air cons i could get?
Im guessing my heat output of the pc may at some point hit 400w
So id like one that can manage that
Respectivly
A power output max of 400W is around 1/3 of the capacity of the smallest AC units commonly available.
Make your pick based on your actual expected use case.
Fairs
Might need to wait before buying one though
:p
@topaz blaze so i need a 7000 btu air con?
Or no
I have 0 clue
Im a brit so air con is something i have no clue about
Ya, after googling around myself, TIL AC, including window AC units are far less common there.
So what rating does a portable ac unit have to be for a say 400w output pc
topaz blaze
Just don't buy one that only has a single exhaust hose.
Get one that has both an intake/exhaust.
search "dual hose" etc
topaz blaze
@topaz blaze hose?
What
Wait im confused
Do you mean a water chiller for my pc?
No. I'd ask around your peer group - or other UK guys here? - for input on this. TIL home air conditioning is far less popular in the UK.
So what do you mean by hose?
You’ve extremely confused me
?
I realize that now.
https://www.consumerreports.org/portable-air-conditioners/are-portable-air-conditioners-a-lot-of-hot-air/
Thanks
@topaz blaze
I searched air con units in my local store
Will this be sufficient?
clever berry
topaz blaze
@clever berry is that unit good?
Like realistically
Would it be sufficient in a bedroom with a pc on a 5700 xt and 9900k popping up to 400w
clever berry
I wish I got a higher btu one
topaz blaze
What btu is that?
I dunno about bru
Btu
Or air con units
That consumer reports article I sent is a good page to start reading.
Fair enough
Lol, just curious, why that freq/ cl ?
That’s what i have
I may trade it in to get 3000 cl14 bdie
2x16gb
My ram is awful
The primary timings wont lower at all and the frequency wont
Is 2x16 gb 3000 cl14 bad for £230?
Bearing in mind mine is hynix afr 3000 cl15 2x16gb for £130 and i cant oc them at all
I would love to oc ram
Especially if i go 1440p
Ballistix sport with AES in the end of the SKU or 3600c16 ballistix elite are both Micron Rev.E which is currently the crowd favorite for performance / dollar when overclocked to potential.
Pfff
How
Bdie is the best did
Die
Always has been for co
Oc
All ballistix elite are e die?
I edited to clarify that Micron rev.E is a popular *budget pick for overclockable memory, especially on zen2.
Im not on zen2
Yo have my red devil refund back
Didn’t notice
Hmm
Why did you get rid of whatever A2 b-die kit you had again?
topaz blaze
@topaz blaze the 4000? Yes
It wasn’t worth having a 4266 kit that couldn’t surpass 4000 and i needed 32 gb
So
I opted for an affordable lpx 32gb kit but that screwed me over oc wise
warm comet
I have a 4000mhz kit, but its samsung e die. Sadly the only cpu I have that I can get it to run at 4000mhz with is a 6600k, and that requires a lot of tweaking and even then its not stable
topaz blaze
I think 3600+ capability can be affected by mobo design as well.
warm comet
I think for me its just the imc on the cpu
i hit a voltage wall around 3800mhz
after that it took a lot of vccio to get any more gains
but it was only an 8gb kit that I picked up for cheap with plans on running it in my pentium to begin with. I got it on sale for cheaper than most 3000mhz kits were going for at the time.
and it runs happily with the pentium at 3600mhz at cl15
I picked up some cheap micron ram a while back that I will probably swap it with though
and move that kit over to my 6600k hackintosh
robust bolt
Anyone really good with watercooling that wouldnt mind lending a hand?
vale blaze
Hello. I need input. I have corsair 140 LL RGBs that aren't lighting up when they should. I have them connected to a commander pro, alongside 6 120 LL RGB pros that are lighting up properly. There are times when the 140s will light up, but not according to the specifications I've set in iCue. Faulty hardware?
outer sierra
@vale blaze are the argb or just rgb?
vale blaze
RGB
outer sierra
Soo its a 4pin connector?
merry crown
Sadly my board doesn't have argb or i would of been using it that way for my fans
zealous thicket
Hi, how are you guys? I owned a DEEPCOOL Fryzen TR4 for a Threadripper 2920x do you think that should be okay anyone has this cooler? Thank you so much
worldly heath
are you only planning on running at stock clocks, and how are your ambient temperatures?
that cooler should be fine at stock clocks, as long as your computer isn't in a very hot environment
zealous thicket
I'm planning to running at stock, I think my ambient temperatures are like 18°c to 30°c I will use the computer for streaming and using Lightroom
alpine grotto
Now- obviously not screwing it in... but placing this on the back plate of a GPU with just the thermal paste tape... think it would actually make any difference?
Seems like it should in theory
merry crown
There are people that has done CPU coolers on GPU's but you also need to make something to cool down the VRM's as well
alpine grotto
Was just saying place it on the back plate.... and it would pull the heat off the plate... and that’s pulling it off the full GPU...
warm comet
backplates dont usually transfer enough heat to make a difference
having a fan blowing at the backplate will be the best thing if you think you need to cool it down
topaz blaze
I think some people were saying removing the ftw3? maybe? 's backplate just made it run cooler.
alpine grotto
My front fans blow across it... was just trying to think out side the box
merry crown
https://youtu.be/N-z9PidYH4E?t=184 starting from this point of the video should give you an understanding
He did it with Noctua cooler but had to make a lot of mods in order for it to cool down
warm comet
I made some standoffs out of some nylon screws to lift a fan off the backplate a little bit in the past and just laid it on the back
I have seen that before
I remember thinking that the nuts he used to attach it to the gpu were eventually going to come loose if he didnt use some loctite
merry crown
Ya i had to link that one cause of what he did with the GPU
warm comet
I wish my metal working skills were as good as his
alpine grotto
That’s a pretty cool build
warm comet
and that I had easy access to large sheets of aluminum
I would love to try and build something like that
alpine grotto
Well... a few adult sites can cause that...
merry crown
hunter which one was it this time
I would love to do a build like that but instead of rope it would be a clear tubbing with a RGB strip inside
harsh sun
I own a Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite ML240L. I am using the MPG X570 GAMING PLUS motherboard (AM4.) As for the case I have, it is a Thermaltake Level 10 Series GTS Snow Edition case. The top of the case can handle either a single 200 x 200 x 30mm fan or two 120 x 120 x 25 fans.
I'm looking to upgrade
I can fit a custom loop reservoir with my three spare 5.25" drive bays
Side can handle a 200 x 200 x 30 mm fan
topaz blaze
Looking to change my stock fans on my new build. Any suggestions for best/quietest RGBfans in the market? Needing 3 the others I can live with no Rgb lol
cold island
noctuas are top notch, but only a few are black/colored the rest are tan and brown
heres the chromax ones https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-pwm-chromax-black-swap
pulsar garnet
Anyone have a watercooling setup in an NZXT H200?
I've been looking at this and was wondering if it'd be worth it: https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/ek-fluid-gaming-a240r
amber crypt
I need to get some fans for my PC case and I could use some recommendations/advice. I'm looking at getting 6, 140mm with a balance between CFM and dbA. Basically >75CFM and a dbA as low as possible. These will be used in a HTPC
Through my research I have found these to be potential options:
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-P14s-redux-1500-PWM-Performance/dp/B00KF7O58G?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_2530014011
https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-ph-f140sp-bk-case-fan/p/N82E16835709023?Item=N82E16835709023
https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-ph-f140xp-bk-case-fan/p/N82E16835709022?Item=N82E16835709022
cold island
Noctua are usually the best for that kind of stuff
topaz blaze
Budget? P14's are my go-to for 5/ $33. https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-air-cooling/1713146-arctic-p12-p120-p14-p140-pressure-optimized-fans-reviews-discussion-thread-32.html
amber crypt
Those look like a decent option as well 
civic trout
are SP3 and TR4 cooler mounts interchangeable?
dense yarrow
hey guys, i was wondering what aio would be best for the lianli o11 case
i bought the nzxt 280mm instead of the 320mm, im not sure how i feel about the offset on the side though, ill have to wait for it to arrive
cold island
u can fit a 360mm in there
pastel isle
Yeah like I said in the other channel, the 280 is a beast but if you've got the extra $ go for the full shebang. Worth it
worldly heath
Ekwb is having a 15% sale, very tempting....
unreal ginkgo
MUST rgb fans be connected to the motherboard?
worldly heath
if you want the motherboard to control them, yeah
otherwise they can be connected to an rgb controller instead
marble jewel
whats the best budget cooler for under 50 CAD
mossy bough
Stock
copper patrol
worldly heath
are monoblock coolers worth it over just the cpu?
topaz blaze
The wraith stealth/prism that comes with your 3600 / 3700x
worldly heath
I'm running asus rog maximus hero x motherboard with 8700k if that matters
topaz blaze
No, but nothing wrong if you like the look and don't mind the $$.
worldly heath
my problem is I missed the end of life sale in ekwb for it... saw it only after they went out of stock, they were selling for just $40 if I remember correctly
now they seem almost impossible to find anywhere
worldly heath
getting ready to take the plunge into a custom loop, any water cooling experts available for me to pm to make sure I'm making the right choices in what I order?
topaz blaze
For fun, performance? or some of both. I plan to do so for both.
worldly heath
mostly for fun, I my 8700k runs cool enough with my aio
unfortunately my 1080ti doesn't support any full board blocks, so I won't be putting that in the loop, but I'll eventually replace it with one that has a block available
probably when the rtx 2k series get replaced
dang I just did a quick config on corsair custom loop, and it's almost $200 over ekwb
worldly heath
welp, finally went ahead and placed my order, will see how this plays out
queen coral
Anyone know of some good rgb 120mm fans I can get that’s aren’t crazy expensive
feral patrol
budget?
copper patrol
@queen coral https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKB1NT3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HsJDDbFC3TX9V amazon link because newegg doesnt sell it
merry crown
Those are the most unknown fans ever
I don't think i would trust them with my life
@clever berry zack is cheating on us with amazon
clever berry
D:<
merry crown
You also have to see if his board has ARGB on it and not RGB
merry crown
The models with with remote only controls the RGB
merry crown
Well he said isn't crazy expensive he never said cheap
merry crown
@queen coral This is affordable and comes with a remote to not only control the RGB but also the fan speeds https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rgbf-s12001-case-fan/p/N82E16835200121
zack i am just saying but you should ask people what they have as well to see if things are supportive because if he has a RGB header only he would need to control the RGB's by remote and if it doesn't come with one he would be stuck on the default colors
violet thicket
Was wondering if anyone knew if the old phantek DX cooler would work on a i5-9600k on a asus prime 370 motherboard
lofty light
Can you connect Thermaltake Pure 12 fans to your motherboard RGB (if so, whats the converter cable) or to the Thermaltake Pure Plus 12 controller? Bought 2 Pure 12s to add to my existing Pure Plus system without knowing it. Now I'm stuck.
Thermaltake page is absolute garbage. 503 errors constantly so I can't actually get info from them
merry crown
@lofty light for ARGB fans it is usually the ARGB header but that is just for the LED's which is why they include a remote to control the fan speeds
overall they're mainly powered by Molex/Sata
lofty light
Yeah I have enough headers on my board (ROG Strix E) to power the two additional fans, I'm just missing the bridge connector cable to control the RGBs. I bought the fans secondary and it was missing accessories (I thought the fans were Pure Plus, not ARGB).
topaz blaze
Would it be better to put a fan with a higher CFM but lower static pressure or a fan with a lower CFM but higher static pressure on a radiator?
Depends on how many fins/inch the rad is, but usually static pressure variants are slightly better. The Noctua NF-A12X25 is the top performer right now. I would go with P12 or p14's from Arctic, $28/5 fans if on a budget.
topaz blaze
Would the NF-F12 2000 PWM be a good choice
It has relatively high CFM and high static pressure
queen coral
Can you sync all Corsair rgb products, like if I got fans, ram, and liquid cpu cooler
cold island
yes
in their software
@topaz blaze for case fans or radiator fans or what? Noctua ones are usually pretty good
topaz blaze
For radiator
I mean like I'm thinking of getting a deepcool 360RGB V2 for my next rig
But idk if I wanna replace the fans with some noctua ones with more static pressure and slightly higher CFM
And then add some phanteks halos lux digital RGB fan frames
worldly heath
I actually just ordered the noctua NF-12 2000 pwm fans for the ek set I have on the way, those fans were highly recommended to me by people on a watercooling discord
topaz blaze
Best fan certainly depends heavily on use case
https://noctua.at/media/wysiwyg/nf_a12x25/noctua_nf_a12x25_pq_compared.png
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x25-performance-comparison-to-nf-f12-and-nf-s12a?___from_store=de
topaz blaze
They do, what do you intend to use it for? Unsure about that specific model, check reviews thoroughly.
topaz blaze
so i'm debating on which fans i should i get for my future rig
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/fans/prisma/prisma-al-12-pwm/rgb/
or
https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-2000-ip67-pwm
the fractal designs have a CFM of 85.71 but a static pressure of 2.78 and are 32.7 dBA
the noctuas have a CFM of 71.69(n i c e) but a static pressure of 3.94 and are 29.7 dBA
should i go for the slightly higher CFM and RGB but lower static pressure and louder noise or slightly lower lower CFM and no RGB but higher static pressure and lower noise
worldly heath
argh, dang usps letting me down again
only thing I'm missing from my custom loop is the fans
I apparently don't currently own a single 120mm fan
gusty talon
@merry crown would you suggest a cooler?
merry crown
@gusty talon You can go with this one to match everything else with your system https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835200123
Also with that case the Prism S if you look at the top left you can have 2 drives mounted there https://images10.rosewill.com/rosewill/image/ebay/Aplus/11-147-298_PRISM-S/m7b.jpg
and you can see under where you would have the AIO aka cooler
gusty talon
@merry crown that ones nice but could you suggest one under 70 so I can keep it under my 900 budget
jaunty hound
question. which is better for confined spaces, air cooling or liquid cooling. my pc will be in a somewhat confined space
cold island
liquid, but it would be more expensive
the rule of thumb for liquid cooling is 120mm for each component you want to cool and 120mm extra for radiator size
obtuse pumice
does anyone know if this cpu is compatible with thei9-9900khttps://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835608073
cpu cooler lol
merry crown
yes always read the compatibility list
obtuse pumice
where would i find that, intels site?
merry crown
You would see it on the Newegg site https://i.gyazo.com/a22c139685f60a63c45a7ce740411a2b.png
obtuse pumice
awesome thanks for the help
inland folio
what would be the best cpu cooler (preferable @ or below $30) that mounts lga 1155
merry crown
@inland folio which CPU exactly
like is it an i3, i5 or i7
Also i don't know the type of case you have so this might do well for you https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-air-cooler-series-i70c/p/13C-000X-002T8
still better than a stock fan
inland folio
I just ended up getting a hyper 212 @merry crown thanks tho
merry crown
oh ok well depending on your CPU if it is a locked one would of been better with the other one
worldly heath
Anyone know about how long it takes for air bubbles to work their way out of a custom water loop? Just cpu being cooled, no gpu block, and a single 360 rad
topaz blaze
river gorge
earth is already water cooled though.
topaz blaze
Need to order more chinese ebay 8AN fittings https://puu.sh/Ek754/f6c482ae40.jpg
cold island
🤔
worldly heath
as someone who uses AN fittings at work, on aircraft components, that looks like a terrible idea to me
topaz blaze
Why? With proper adapters, loctite, etc should seal well over 1k psi, I'm sure the block or gaskets would fail first. As pictured, ya, it's jank lol. I'm eager to continue experimenting with the build, looking at a 15k btu r22 to dual 5k r410a Cascade. With 600 psi on the high side of the r410, need to be careful I think
Previously I had used the pump, as braid lines, 8an rad for a turbojet oil cooler