old-cooling

[sacred wren]

I have my pc for gaming though, it'll mostly be for either light gaming when I'm out (probably at college and bored) and schoolwork though

[dark widget]

Loved playing Binding of Isaac between classes if we didn't have to move xD

[sacred wren]

Oh it's 2.2k

2240x1400

16gb ddr5 4800 soldered, but it might have a second slot I could throw another stick in if I really needed to

I think it has an hdmi port but it doesn't say on product desc and I can't check atm

[onyx reef]

what would yall reccommend for cooling a 12700k?

[knotty sparrow]

A good dual tower cooler probably, unless you're doing a bunch of all core workloads.

Should cost about $50 for a decent one right now, let me find one.

Any height restrictions from the case? (what case if you don't know)

[harsh crow]

what cooler do you guys recommend for a 7600x?

[knotty sparrow]

The stock cooler is fine unless you're doing all core workloads. In which case a $20-25 tower cooler works fine.

[knotty sparrow]

This is about $41 right now. It's 155mm tall so check if it's compatible with your case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NXPVH9D

[twin ivy]

My setup

For sure

[harsh crow]

so a 240mm lf2 is overkill then?

Making a build for a friend.

[knotty sparrow]

You were planning for all core loads though iirc. If so then that's fine.

[harsh crow]

Gotcha.

Well he's happy with the look and perf. picked out the best parts I could within his max budget.

[knotty sparrow]

Gamers don't usually use more than a few cores at a time, even when recording etc.

[harsh crow]

What would be a cheaper alternative for all core cooler out of curiosity?

The lf2 240mm is $96.

[knotty sparrow]

That PA120 I linked is pretty decent, it'll tame all but the recent i9's or Ryzen 9's.

[harsh crow]

this one?

[knotty sparrow]

Yep

[onyx reef]

What is that

[twin ivy]

An aio strapped to a 12,700k with a usb cable

[onyx reef]

Appreciate it

[harsh crow]

I see.

[onyx reef]

You're evil

[harsh crow]

Will ask if he wanted to change it out.

[onyx reef]

Why may I ask

[twin ivy]

I lost the mounting hardware for intel

[onyx reef]

So real

[twin ivy]

deepcool is shipping new hardware lmao

[onyx reef]

W

[twin ivy]

But I dont wanna wait

[onyx reef]

Felt

[twin ivy]

It works so well too LMAO

[knotty sparrow]

That happens when your cooling choice is overkill already lol

[onyx reef]

I get my parts on Friday but friends work at bestbuy so I was just gonna cash out on an expensive aio

[twin ivy]

I was at 77c with a 200w cinebench load 😭

[onyx reef]

😭😭

[knotty sparrow]

Yep, overkill lol

[twin ivy]

For sure

We love it tho

[knotty sparrow]

Only 200W on that cooler? Even with an uneven mount? Easy

[harsh crow]

Just asked he'd prefer the current aio.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myBMqm

this was the list.

He had a max budget of $1100.

[knotty sparrow]

Why 7600X and not 7600? Saves you almost $20 for no tangible loss in perf

Then you can use that $20 for better memory

[onyx reef]

^

Not the ventus

[knotty sparrow]

It's the 3X ventus at least

[onyx reef]

True

[knotty sparrow]

But really we should be saying "not the 3060 ti" lol

[onyx reef]

That also

[knotty sparrow]

At least not at new prices

[onyx reef]

But I get where he sgands

*stands

Ya definitely not

Can get a used 3080

For like $50 more

[knotty sparrow]

Or a new 6750 XT that has more memory and more perf if you want new

[onyx reef]

^

Better not be a team green only kinda fella or I'm praying on the downfall of his rig

[knotty sparrow]

I give it 2-3 years before we really feel the effects of "8GB isn't enough" but still that's too short for an almost $400 GPU

[onyx reef]

Ong

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6541446.p?skuId=6541446

I kinda regret buying my 10gb 3080 over a 12gb

But by the time 10gb isn't enough I'll be breaded up

6000 series here I come

[knotty sparrow]

The 12GB was just an excuse to have a card with no MSRP during the shortages, but at least it is actually better in more ways than memory.

[onyx reef]

Ya that was my only gripe

But the "aesthetic"

[onyx reef]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006468/intel-core-i7-12700k,-asus-z690-p-prime-wifi-ddr5,-gskill-flare-x5-16gb-ddr5-5600,-computer-build-bundle

Tell that fella go this route instead if he has a microcenter within driving distance

Definitely worth

Then he could upgrade the gpu

[knotty sparrow]

Here's how that list would go if I did it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvXKyK

Maybe even a cheaper PSU

Nah PSU prices are crazy still

[strange flume]

I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dDPP2m

[onyx reef]

That case is a W

[strange flume]

Good 20%+ faster

[onyx reef]

Ur missing the cooler fella

[knotty sparrow]

Stock is fine

[strange flume]

No the cpu comes with one

And it's more than capable

[onyx reef]

This is true

[knotty sparrow]

But one of the restrictions for the list was it needed the LF2

[strange flume]

Ehhh

[onyx reef]

But if that dude is set on an aio then rip

[strange flume]

Wouldn't bother with an aio

[knotty sparrow]

I know it's overkill but that's what they wanted

[onyx reef]

Gotta make him realize an aio ain't all that

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah compromising almost $100 of your budget and sacrificing FPS just to have the CPU run cooler, not worth

[onyx reef]

^^^

[strange flume]

It's a huge upgrade on the gpu for just taking the L on aesthetics

And even then the amd wraith doesn't look bad

[onyx reef]

Not even aesthetic

Literally the most plain cooler aio out there

He just sacrificing it for nothing

Ik it's a good cooler tho

[knotty sparrow]

Plain sure, but it really does perform. They were probably told "this is the best" and they wanted it.

[onyx reef]

Ya ik

I done my research just too plain

Especially for my white build

Or I would snapped a long time ago

[strange flume]

I can make the build white

[onyx reef]

Cause for 100 it's a beast

Nah no need I was talkin bout my build

[knotty sparrow]

I have the 420mm one myself. And no it's not overkill for me. Keeps that hot chip about 10 degrees under throttling.

[strange flume]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ggvP2m

[onyx reef]

420mm

Send pics

[knotty sparrow]

It's on my hwbot subs lol, hang on I'll link one

[onyx reef]

Mf loooong

[strange flume]

Or all black
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GpXgb

[harsh crow]

Just got back.

CPU is more important than gpu in this case.

[knotty sparrow]

It doesn't even fit my case even though the case supports 420mm, the LF2 is just that big

[harsh crow]

I can probably get him to sacrifice the aio though.

[strange flume]

Cpu is plenty good

[onyx reef]

Fr

[knotty sparrow]

7700 if you must

[strange flume]

ya

[onyx reef]

Is there a microcenter near him? @harsh crow

[harsh crow]

Yeah I will probably do that.

[onyx reef]

They have a bundle with the same chip

[harsh crow]

Not sure will ask when my friend't awake tomorrow.

[onyx reef]

Bet

Will save big bucks if he does

[harsh crow]

Does 7700X come with a cooler that can handle it?

[onyx reef]

Ha

*ya

[strange flume]

No

7700

[onyx reef]

^

My b

[strange flume]

X does not

[onyx reef]

But ya it can handle it

[knotty sparrow]

I've got one I use to attach to hwbot subs https://hwbot.org/submission/5179921_falcie_cinebench___r20_ryzen_7_5800x_6561_cb

[strange flume]

X is a waste cos you need the cooler

[onyx reef]

If not they wouldn't sell it with it

[strange flume]

Boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BrZhRv

[harsh crow]

would a PA120se work?

[onyx reef]

Nutty

[strange flume]

you don't need one, just use the stock one with the 7700

[knotty sparrow]

The LF2 420 makes the 3080 ti and Torrent look small

[strange flume]

specifically 7700

[onyx reef]

That's cause the 3080 a chonker

[harsh crow]

1100 is cutting it really tight.

1200 won't be a go unfortunately.

[onyx reef]

So ditch the 7700X lmao

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006208/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-raphael-am5,-g-skill-flare-x5-32gb-ddr5-6000-dual-channel,-cpu-ram-bundle

Or if he can go this route I would

[harsh crow]

will ask when he's up.

I managed to squeeze the 7700x and pa120se into the build within the same price.

[strange flume]

you're wasting money buying the same cpu without a cooler

[onyx reef]

^

[harsh crow]

Do they both have the same single core perf?

[strange flume]

yes

[harsh crow]

Do they both overclock the same would be the next question.

[onyx reef]

Ya not much difference between X and non-X variants

[knotty sparrow]

Hmm, I was going to say do 7700 instead of 7700X but... it's only 2 bucks more lol

[harsh crow]

yeah lmao.

[strange flume]

it's not

[onyx reef]

No cooler tho

[strange flume]

it's $2 + a cooler

[onyx reef]

^

Can't complain about free

[knotty sparrow]

Fair, but if they're set on getting a big rgb thing might as well

[harsh crow]

RGB is a gamer's eye candy after all lmao.

[onyx reef]

With that plain jane cooler

Is this his first pc?

I'm assuming so

So why is he oc'ing

I get it but it's not a necessity

[harsh crow]

What was the ram that was guarenteed A die?

[strange flume]

no

unless he oc's there's no a die kit

[harsh crow]

For the fun of it.

He wants to give it a try.

[knotty sparrow]

Guaranteed A die costs money. Like double. And you can't use the XMP on ryzen.

[onyx reef]

^

[harsh crow]

oh nevermind then.

[onyx reef]

That's why I'm a blue boy now

[strange flume]

All rgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YWNrzf

and before you ask, no, 7700x doesn't make sense here

you can run it eco but then you lose the free cooler

all for what, 1% perf?

lol

[knotty sparrow]

Maybe 3% under all core load

[strange flume]

for what could save you $20 later, that's not worth $20

[harsh crow]

Alright will change out the x variant then.

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah 3% is the difference of 100 vs 103 fps in games, or 240 vs 247 seconds rendering.

[strange flume]

basically nothing

in games you won't see it

[harsh crow]

What case do you guys recommend?

currently have the matrexx 40 selected.

at $49.

[strange flume]

any of the montech

[knotty sparrow]

If you want cheap and RGB I do this one, $53 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fHXJ7P/cougar-archon-2-mesh-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cgr-5cc5b-mesh-rgb

[harsh crow]

If I can get something that works for cheaper that's the preference.

[strange flume]

matrexx hasn't been worth it for a long time

[harsh crow]

gotcha

[strange flume]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YWNrzf

look at the list

[harsh crow]

I see.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qz2Xgb

how's this look?

[strange flume]

Solid

[harsh crow]

Great.

[strange flume]

You should post both to him and see which he likes

[harsh crow]

Will send him the new list tomorrow then.

[strange flume]

He might want white or rgb

[harsh crow]

If he does I will be sure to do that.

[languid gale]

@digital wedge how do you get those bykski anti-off fittings to not leak? No matter what I did, leaks for days

[digital wedge]

Which ones?

[languid gale]

Those with the silicone rings

Tighten them down fully and they still leak

Don’t really care because I got the build up and running but still

[digital wedge]

@languid gale did the small o rings at the end fall out?

[languid gale]

Nope

[digital wedge]

Or did an o ring fold?

Only thing I can think of is either the tubing size is wrong or the end of ring fell out or the cup o ring fell out or one folded

[languid gale]

Either way, too late to switch fittings now, loop is filled

[digital wedge]

Try tightening it more

[languid gale]

I switched back to my original fittings

[uneven solstice]

Gonna pick this up to replace the broken fan in my PC.

[weary raft]

are you sure it's going to have enough cfm

also it isn't direct drive cringe frfr

gotta replace the belts

[dark widget]

Random question, should I be using k-boost in EVGA flow control? I have both an EVGA GPU and AIO.

(please @ me when responding, will be afk)

[weary raft]

i wouldn't recommend it since it locks your clock speeds (or something like that)
you might see a performance improvement in some games? but it comes at the cost of using more energy while idle

[knotty sparrow]

They can slip off constantly too if it's a poo model

[marsh badge]

Not again

[strange flume]

@shrewd juniper

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[shrewd juniper]

Ty

[bright ether]

is it okay using the liquid freezer II with PK 3 nano thermal paste

[shrewd juniper]

Don't see why there would be

[bright ether]

it contains aluminum (70 - 88%) and the coldplate on the aio is copper

[shrewd juniper]

Oh it's not just regular paste i see

Afaik it should be okay but maybe wait for another person but honestly just use the mx4 that comes with the cooler

No need to buy extra paste

[bright ether]

i already impulse bought it so not sure if I need to return in

[shrewd juniper]

I would especially since it's super expensive and you get mx4 in the box

Especially on your 10700

[weary raft]

Should be fine, in HVAC it's pretty common to braze something like an aluminium condenser to a copper lineset

[bright ether]

ok thanks : ) good to know
also im made cause the fractal torrent doesnt fit the LF II 420 even tho it says it fits 420mm rads

im gonna have to have it stickout out the top a bit

[weary raft]

Contact between the aluminum alloys and copper, as well as copper alloys (bronze, brass) leads to very little galvanic corrosion of aluminum when exposed to atmospheric conditions.

[strange flume]

My best guess is you'll maybe see staining

But without a catalyst nothing should happen

[weary raft]

Nothing much should happen*

[strange flume]

Hm

My chemistry knowledge only goes so far ig

But it's sealed under pressure so any related galvanic corrosion is highly unlikely

[weary raft]

Not too sure which one is the anode (which is the metal that will oxidize)

Eh

[strange flume]

Copper

Copper is the one I'm pretty sure

Aluminium is a transitional metal

[weary raft]

Well, whichever one, you could at most just need to sand any oxidization if it even occurs

[strange flume]

Ah oxidisation

Trueeee

Yeah maybe a little bit

[bright ether]

ok thank you!!! Makes me feel much better about this

[strange flume]

We aren't professionals but I will say there's probably very relevant information about this online

[bright ether]

google is telling me mixed results lol

[weary raft]

I mean, ideally you use non-metalic pastes for no galvanic corrosion or such

But if you do use aluminum paste, you should be fine

For the most part

[knotty sparrow]

Not like I haven't been saying this for months or anything.
I have a pic if you want to see my solution. You basically either mount it outside the case on front or grab a Dremel.

[bright ether]

thats ok thx, I figured it out, put the 140 mounts in and it "fits". I'll have to cut the bottom plastic fan mount as u said. Only annoying the is with the 140 front mounts I cant easily remove the bottom fan bracket

[weary raft]

also tbh the torrent was more designed for air cooled parts than liquid cooled

[shrewd juniper]

Air or custom loop yeah

[stoic apex]

I have an nzxt liquid cooler fan that has a ripped wire so I am planning on replacing it and I found one online, but the only difference is that it says on the back 12V DC/0.32A/3.84A, and the one I have at home says says 12V DC/0.35A/4.20W. Should it matter if i buy this one from online?

[knotty sparrow]

It probably won't matter. It's not likely to use the full power unless you run everything on full blast anyway.

[stoic apex]

Thank you!

[queen sun]

Hi

Is the dark rock pro 4 compatible with Trident Z5 Neo RGB
DDR5 (ram clearance) ?

Please

[shrewd juniper]

Should be yes although unless you're carrying it forward from a previous build there's better cheaper coolers available, and it'll depend on the case but most coolers you can move the fan up a bit to compensate for ram height and unless you really like the trident z looks, there's better ram choices too

[queen sun]

Case lancool 215

[shrewd juniper]

That should have room to do that yeah

[queen sun]

Ok thanks soo much

[coral dagger]

Does my aio not have fan stop?

I have an LS 720

[shrewd juniper]

holy wires

but fan stop is a feature in bios but you dont want that tbh

[coral dagger]

Okay tankchu, I will be getting a new case and psu to not have it a mess 😭

[marsh badge]

fan stop feature honestly is pointless

[twin ivy]

I couldnt get mine to hit 0 no matter what

Its like it just doesnt allow it lmao

[shrewd juniper]

Oh eh not something you'd want anyway, and usually bios's have a toggle to even allow iy

[latent juniper]

i forgot, generally, do we want more cool air in, or more exhaust in getting as much hot air out as possible?

[twin ivy]

More intake

[latent juniper]

kk, and as for fan speed, would the same apply as said?
intake at faster speeds and outtake a bit slower?

[dark widget]

Here's a question - should I be using my ASUS MOBO q-fan tuning, or setting manual curves? not OC-ing or anything, and have a bunch of fans daisy chained

[granite delta]

Hello. anyone here have a 7900 xtx red devil? i just got one like 2 weeks ago and all of a sudden my junction temp is hitting 95. i didnt mess with anything, i kept everything default. should i return it for new card??

[marsh badge]

Is this during gaming?

[granite delta]

yes

and for some reason the coil whine sounds worse now when i game. before, it never bothered me. but now it sounds more like staticky than a whine

[marsh badge]

That's a bit odd

Maybe consider an rma

[granite delta]

it kinda worries me. i ended up setting the max fan speed to 85 and that did not help. the temp went down to 90 and thats it

yeah i may return it. ive been looking online for answers. thanks

[strange flume]

95 is ok

It's over 95 when you worry a bit

Like, 105

Lol

It might be the paste is drying out/separating tho so keep an eye on it

If it doesn't change then you're fine

XTX also likes to run really warm on air so 85+ is pretty normal

[granite delta]

really? for a new card already drying out? damn. it just surprised me cuz in the 2 weeks i had it my temps stayed around 65-70. and then today it just skyrocketed to 95. alright, ill keep an eye on it

[strange flume]

Yeah either it's settling or it could possibly be drying out

Either way if it gets worse you can repaste or RMA

Don't say "95" just say like

"my temps used to be 70 last week now they're skyrocketing, help"

Gpu manus are sticklers for rma and 95 is a normal temp

(I own 2 XTX's so you can trust me)

5$ arctic MX4 or MX6 would do the trick, spread across the whole gpu die so you don't miss a spot (the spots are what cause the temp spikes)

If you wanted to repaste

Quite common on gpus for a poor paste job tbh

[granite delta]

ok thanks!

[snow wyvern]

Is there enough of a difference between the LS720 SE to justify the extra $30 for the non-SE version?

[strange flume]

Not really

[snow wyvern]

The spec sheet seems to be practically identical as far as my untrained eye can tell

[strange flume]

There is a difference

But not $30 worth

What cpu is this for?

[snow wyvern]

It’s just for a 13600k, I’m not in a rush to grab anything as my current setup is passable for now. I also like the look of the LS720 models and the extra cooling it would offer is just a bonus

[strange flume]

This would be better if it fits
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ttt9TW/ek-aio-280-d-rgb-116-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-280-d-rgb

85$ is worth it for the maybe degree or two difference

Compared to what, 110 or 140?

It's a decent deal for a high end aio

And it won't be around forever as they're slowly discontinuing this lineup so this will be close to about as cheap as it'll get

This aio is really good too for case compatibility. The block isn't tall so it can fit in an sff case quite well if you have room for a 280

Bit of a gem in the sff community for sandwich cases and low clearance

If ever you think you might go sff

[snow wyvern]

Currently have a Corsair 4000D, so it could fit that. On the 4000D a front mounted 280mm AIO sits pretty high and I feel like it doesn’t feed the GPU enough, and I always wondered if going to a 360 might get the GPU more air since it would extend down further in the case

[strange flume]

Which gpu?

Also not really

About the same tbh

It's warm air either way

[snow wyvern]

Just a 3070 from PNY

Light overclock with MSI afterburner

[strange flume]

Probably not gonna do anything then

PNY is decent

To get cooler air you'd either pull from the pcie slots or top mount the aio and it'd only be a couple degrees difference for the gpu in term for cpu compromise

Won't make the gpu any quicker provided it's already working fine

[snow wyvern]

Well ya, but cooler temps are always a plus ¯_(ツ)_/¯ there’s the 360 EK elite for $130, wouldn’t that be a decent as well? Or is the 280mm better?

[strange flume]

I mean

The LS and EK elite are both better

But not 30-60$ better

When the 280 is plenty

Cooling perf is not about the rad size btw, between these it's more about the pump and radiator

As far as case heat you'd still be dumping more or less the same amount into the case so it's not gonna make things better for the gpu with both front mounted lol

Like a cpu doing 200W is still gonna exhaust 200W one way or another

You could do an air cooler?

[knotty sparrow]

The only thing cooler temps do once you reach a certain point, is let you run the fans quieter

[strange flume]

Like a $40 thermalright dual tower can run a 13600K, that would mean all relevant cpu heat goes out over the top of the gpu and circumvents it

[snow wyvern]

I really hate the look of air coolers

[strange flume]

And then front airflow is colder

[strange flume]

They've got new deepcool ones coming with lcd screens

[knotty sparrow]

Which is kinda not what you want when your GPU is running hot, it's getting less intake then

[strange flume]

What temps is this 3070 running at anyway?

Cos if nothing is over 100C then there's nothing to really improve by lowering it

Nothing significant anyway

[knotty sparrow]

I'd say 90C but yeah

Usually starts to limit clocks a little at ~90

[strange flume]

That's core yeah

But hotspot would be way higher

Hotspot doesn't govern boost

[snow wyvern]

I mean under normal use everything is pretty much in check, my CPU randomly will hit tjmax I set to 95° when on loading screens to start a game, but stabilizes to around mid 70’s

GPU usually sits around 70°

[strange flume]

70 is in all likeliness fine

An AIO won't really lower that

[knotty sparrow]

Set a FPS limit in drivers to a little above your monitor refresh rate, then it won't spike so much

[strange flume]

However a better aio will help ur cpu come down from 95

And that can definitely be handled by the 280mm ek

I've run hotter with that level of aio

[knotty sparrow]

7950X would probably be fine on the 280 tbh

[strange flume]

Would be yeah

[snow wyvern]

I really am looking to upgrade looks and try to tame the thermal spikes, and if I’m going to do that I’d rather get an upgrade even if it’s a little overkill

[strange flume]

There's nothing wrong with any of the 360 aios we talked about mate

I'm not gonna say they're bad buys cos they're not

Just sharing the info that you can get 99% of their performance for significantly less

[snow wyvern]

I appreciate it, that 280mm one you linked does look very nice

[strange flume]

130 for the elite is actually probably the best of the 3 360's

Cos you get 6 fans and a fan controller

Kinda worth the 20 over LS720 SE

[knotty sparrow]

If you need more fans for your case yeah the elite is nice

[strange flume]

Yeah

[snow wyvern]

Ya, I also saw the 3 “extra” fans and thought it could be worth it

[strange flume]

And that fan controller is worth 20$ alone

It's a cooler master oem

No nonsense

A lot of wires but just works

Has built-in rgb if you're into that

[snow wyvern]

I appreciate all the help, thanks a ton for the recommendations and discussion!

[strange flume]

[shrewd juniper]

With the 4000d you can top mount 280mm btw

[shrewd juniper]

You can get thermalright c12c's for like 12$ for a 3 pack of non rgb and 15$ for rgb so not really worth it

[snow wyvern]

I need to double check if there’s enough clearance with my RAM. It’s a very tight squeeze for a 280mm up there and my RAM might be a bit too tall for it

[shrewd juniper]

Should be fine, I don't have an aio but there's plenty of space in my 4000d airflow on the top

Then again i also have ballistix so kinda low profile

[dreamy locust]

3d printed a small cage for my portable 8k rpm fan :]
I can finally stay cool this summer

[uneven solstice]

I'm not a huge fan of the c12cs

I totally did not see the rated rpm of 1550 +/- 10%. At most I was seeing 1250 rpm from my 3 pack I bought.

[dreamy locust]

I've bought the fans about a month ago, the rpm is perfectly fine, do you run them daisy chained?

[uneven solstice]

I tried them daisy chained and non

[dreamy locust]

Could be that one of the fans is just a bit crappy
The reading is just from the 1st daisy chained fan btw

[uneven solstice]

I plugged all 3 fans individually

[dreamy locust]

All showed 1250?

[uneven solstice]

but it doesn't matter because they have already been sent out the door

[uneven solstice]

yeah give or take,

[dreamy locust]

Oh... Maybe it was just a defect

They're still a good alternative to arctic p12 (as far as they work as advertised)

Fan is too tired to startup
Unhappy fan noise intensifies

Always the bell ringing in the background 🔔 :/

[shrewd juniper]

afaik fan rpm reading from pc can be eh so they might actually be running at rated speed, or you could try return them to seller and get other ones because theyre not reporting rated speed

[uneven solstice]

It's ok. I may give them another try at a later date. They just went into a PC with a 1080 and 9600k with a stonk air cooler so I'm not to worried. The PC left my house last week

[dreamy locust]

U trying to build same pc as mine? Lol
You're using many similar conponents that I also have in my second build

[scarlet palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hq6myK

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a

think i will go for this cooler

[knotty sparrow]

Liquid freezer is a great choice for Ryzen

[azure gazelle]

Anyone got a good cooler for the 13900k? I heard it’s hard to cool depending on what you use it for

[sacred wren]

What are you using it for

[azure gazelle]

Mainly gaming

[sacred wren]

The 13900k is pointless for gaming

The 7800x3d destroys it

The 13600k is within 3% of it

For cooler, EK 280 or pa120 se/ps120 se

[azure gazelle]

Thanks

[shrewd juniper]

what they said although if you already had the 13900k, ls720 SE for 110 assuming youre in the US is the best atm

[azure gazelle]

Thanks for the info

[bright ether]

I feel like the fans would be better on the other side because then they dont need to pull through the rad

[marsh badge]

Nope

It doesn't matter

Placing fans before the rad will make virtually no difference in temps

If it even helps it by 1c lol

[bright ether]

for 1c I'll spend the extra couple minutes to switch the fans

[marsh badge]

I wouldn't bother myself, it doesn't do anything meaningful but if you want there's nothing wrong

The example of better temps is also an approximation, it might not even do anything

[twin ivy]

Ur using a 10700f that can be tamed by a single tower air cooler why would u take the time to swap fans on a radiator just to slice off 1c

[bright ether]

its for a new build

[twin ivy]

If it will even make a difference

[bright ether]

so i will do an extra 20min of work for -1c

[twin ivy]

Bruh

You do you bro its not worth my time

[sacred wren]

20 min for 1c seems pretty silly but you do you

[bright ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s9IusaNrro ok so it literally does not matter

0.2 C yes please!!!!

[twin ivy]

Omg its almost like this is what we've been saying 🤯

😭

[bright ether]

for 1 C i would do it lolz

but for this Ill just stick with the default

idk what default is but Im gonna do pull because it would fit better in the case

[dreamy locust]

Can anyone help me find a review of the uphere a94k cooler? I can't find any, the ones on Amazon are like: keeps my 3700x below 40C under load (which makes no sens of course)

[knotty sparrow]

That's because uphere is kind of a garbage company that buys reviews

Some of their products are ok so I don't even know why they do it so much

[dreamy locust]

Probably because they're still a small company and they want to get to the top of the list with more reviews and stuff

I've had uphere fans a long time ago and they were absolutely fine

But I see they make other products for cheap like RGB graphics card supports

Another review says it keeps a 12900 below 70 with 160w

[languid gale]

“Keeps 13900k under 60 at 300w” when?

[coarse herald]

5600x cpu looking at getting an upgrade to the stock air cooler, had the liquid freezer II 280 in mind

But not sure if i want to go aio, what would be a good air cooler to go with

[marsh badge]

thermalright air coolers

[strange flume]

Just a basic $20 single tower

Any more is ridiculously overkill

[marsh badge]

^

[dreamy locust]

When they release a 20mm tall lp cooler

[sweet lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJeEQ7bAcQI

seems like a single fan version of it?

hard to say

heat pipe config looks the same tho

[sacred wren]

FT140 and silver soul 110 are likely better

[dreamy locust]

This one has a 120mm fan, not 90mm

So the results are probably far apart from each other

[strange flume]

What about the jonsbo cr200

When it goes on sale for like, $2

[fervent olive]

Hey, how’s it going guys, really need some help with my cpu cooling loop

I’m trying to fix it myself and don’t know how to flush it/replace the coolant and/or fix the leak

[knotty sparrow]

Flushing is easy, just run water through it, drain, put fresh, repeat until clean.

Leak fixing depends on where the leak is

The most common cause would be a damaged/worn/ not compressed enough O-ring

[harsh crow]

Can my EVGA CLC 240mm AIO be refilled?

Just extracted it out of my old PC and noticed it was pretty low on water.

[knotty sparrow]

Any AIO can be refilled, it's only a matter of difficulty level

[harsh crow]

How difficult is the CLC. Like is it worth it?

[knotty sparrow]

Most of the time if it doesn't have a fill port (usually covered with a warranty sticker) you have to take off the cold plate and fill it from there

[harsh crow]

Ahh I see. Debating if it's worth keeping this cooler. Moving to Alaska on Sunday so I am getting rid of anything I don't need or is expendable.

I can get coolers equivalent to the CLC 240mm AIO for around 50-60$ right?

[sacred wren]

$35 pa 120 se is just as good

[harsh crow]

Ty for confirming.

Yeah I am just gonna abandon this cooler then.

.

Are the Deep cool CF120C good?

[knotty sparrow]

@harsh crowNo buying, selling, or giveaways

And yes the fans are good

[harsh crow]

Sorry, my bad.

[harsh crow]

Ended up decided on abandoning them. Don't need the extra weight when traveling.,

[knotty sparrow]

Alaska, huh. That's a big change from previous plans.

If you start getting weird issues keep in mind that cold air can get static buildup, and the power there is notoriously spotty and the voltage can fluctuate a lot.

[harsh crow]

Stopping in Alaska for salmon season and to update some information then heading back to ShangHai in september assuming all goes to plan.'

[harsh crow]

Gotcha, thanks for the update.

[knotty sparrow]

Ah so this is just a short term stay, makes sense

Once you hit the streets at that china market you'll be amazed at how cheap all the tech you need is

Huge contrast to mexico lol

[harsh crow]

Hopefully so.

I used to visit the markets and prices were decent hopefully they're better now.

Damn this is tempting. Who knows if it's still there in a couple weeks I can probably afford the spare cash.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404356887705?epid=17041995076&hash=item5e258c7499:g:YTQAAOSwHA9kmgwY&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAsLRuEiB4Qepp47foMTM8FPwF8NDgS3vG%2B8P14GcjASX%2BwFtGZ36jWGhWhkIGw%2FjtLs4N5vBECXF2siOyd5VBmCLzVeB9Le9AxGRPRVHAhDQMwAplmUZShkspZ%2FWY3QLpfVVirLpMJPEXIy%2FtHcsIWbCsRn0AYzcXgKGcbxrXz5wgufXn%2BNYhGnk18CQnjbUXuZPE0fWEj4tYqTYIxsFAtUpsuUE7ed%2BimRAW1zx321dA|tkp%3ABk9SR6LKlaOhYg

I am very surprised btw.

Two year old thermal paste c ame off so easily with just a napkin

[celest niche]

What PC fans would you guys recommend (powerful & silent - rgb preferred)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1123977056745705533/1124362046004273242/IMG_4639.png

To put here and the top.

Since the 2x free NZXT fans comes with the NZXT case, I’ll have the first one at the back, and then one at the top with my cpu fan.

Then 3x is needed for the front.

[sacred wren]

p12 argb

not silent though, if you want completely silent you're looking at atleast twice the cost from what I know https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/arctic-p12-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-acfan00232a

[knotty sparrow]

P12 are excellent for the price. Pretty top tier noise, not the best but great.

[celest niche]

28$ 5 pack

1800rpm

[knotty sparrow]

Yep. Cheap but effective and quiet.

[celest niche]

So when buying fans, am I looking for its RPM and making sure its 120mm.

[knotty sparrow]

RPM isn't too important, it's the overall performance that matters. We have a list of good fans in the pins for this channel.

(See P12 max if you want an example of why RPM isn't everything)

[bright ether]

cpu_fan or pump_fan for an aio (liquid freezer II). Google says pump_fan sets the pump to run at 100%. But what about controlling the fan speed?

[bright ether]

looks like arctic reccomends cpu fan

[knotty sparrow]

LF2 does say to use the cpu fan header since it daisy chains the pump and fans together

[strange flume]

Doesn't that mean the pump runs at a variable rpm with the fans?

[bright ether]

yes, is that bad?

but if I have it plugged into pump, wont fains run at 100% all the time?

[strange flume]

They'd all run at the same rpm

I would think

Unless you run like, pwm and daisy the pump to the end and it has no pwm signal

[bright ether]

nah one pwm cable is fine

[strange flume]

*visible confusion *

@knotty sparrow !!

[bright ether]

this is what arctic says https://www.arctic.de/us/faq/detail/which-fan-header-should-i-use

[strange flume]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THINGS

[bright ether]

A 4-pin fan connection should always be used with PWM coolers. It does not matter which fan connection is selected. Either "CPU_FAN" or "CPU_OPT" are recommended. With the Liquid Freezer II, connection to a pump header leads to a permanent, unregulated speed of 100%.

[strange flume]

I NEED A TEACHER

No no no

I'm not talking about the mobo header

I'm talking about chaining the pump and fans together

[bright ether]

I could do like a 3x daisy chain for the fans and connect the aio to the pump_fan

fans on cpu_fan

[strange flume]

You can do that yeah

But Fal was saying chain all 4 together and I was confused about that

[bright ether]

but that just sounds like more work and more cables

[strange flume]

Not really

Daisy chain or not you use the same cable amount

[bright ether]

no. by default they are daisy chained together. the pump and fans

it is one pwm cable for the entire aio

[strange flume]

???

I'm sorry I don't think we are communicating well

[bright ether]

it is 1:30 am

[strange flume]

I'll wait for Fal

[bright ether]

i woke up a 7 am

[knotty sparrow]

The pump is DC and the fans are PWM. So when you plug it into a PWM header, the pump runs full speed but the fans run on PWM.

[strange flume]

Ya that's what I was thinking would be the answer

But it'd have to be the last link in the chain ye?

[knotty sparrow]

No

[strange flume]

Or the daisy has pwm?

So pump cable 3 pin, daisy 4

[knotty sparrow]

The PWM signal gets bypassed through the pump and sent to the fans

[strange flume]

Via daisy?

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah it's an elegant, one cable solution

[strange flume]

Ok yeah so daisy 4 pin

[bright ether]

so then why would it be worse to plug into pump_fan

[strange flume]

Pump 3 pin

[strange flume]

Cos pump headers normally have less control via bios

And you'd get a cpu_fan error

[knotty sparrow]

Because that header will default to running everything at 100%, fans too

[strange flume]

Some boards afaik don't even HAVE pump_fan control

[bright ether]

ahh i see. and cpu_fan the pumps run at the same percentage as fans?

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah my old X470 was locked to 100 on the pump

[knotty sparrow]

The pump will run at 100%, which is ideal, and the fans run at variable speeds

[bright ether]

ohh nice. is the pump loud? u have the 420 as well right?

[strange flume]

By plugging to cpu_fan you also fix the annoying cpu_fan boot error

[bright ether]

thats my fav error to fix ❤️

[strange flume]

Some boards don't let you post without something plugged into it

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah the pump isn't nearly the loudest thing in my system

[strange flume]

I know it can be fixed I'm just saying

[knotty sparrow]

Can't hear the pump unless you're right up on it

[bright ether]

cant hear it if im wearing headphones

and listening to crab rave

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[knotty sparrow]

Just put a jumper on it to bridge 12V and ground, what's the worst that could happen

[strange flume]

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-explosion-planet-gif-24891039

[sweet lodge]

diy HOT 3000

[autumn iris]

Any potential fix for this without sending in the AIO? It's not fans I've disconnected all of them and tried and even disconnected the GPU to narrow down the sound to the AIO

I've been on vacation for a week and just come back to it doing this...

Only issue as far as I can tell is noise

Temps seem fine

[low pumice]

Have you narrowed it down to the pump? it could be an air bubble got in there somehow, move the radiator around and see if that helps it

[autumn iris]

That's not helping but it's definitely the pump

[knotty sparrow]

Rock the PC back and forth, side to side about 30-45 degrees with it running. If it's air that'll work it out.

[narrow bough]

can the arctic esports 34 duo fit on the lian li o11 dynamic?

[marsh badge]

yes, though i don't really recommend that cooler

thermalright has better coolers

peerless assassin and such

[narrow bough]

how much?

[marsh badge]

around $30-50 usually

[narrow bough]

wait is it thermaltake?

[marsh badge]

no, thermalright

not thermaltake

[narrow bough]

oh

im using it for a ryzen 5 5600x

the artic esports 34 duo

[marsh badge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Gstt6/thermalright-assassin-king-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak120-se-argb-d6

this one would be plenty

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vHH7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-argb-white-d2

[narrow bough]

how about the deepcool ag400

[marsh badge]

and if you want white

[narrow bough]

idk where to buy thermalright in my country

[marsh badge]

ag400 performs pretty much the same at a higher price point

ah so it's not the us

i would go for the ag400 then

[narrow bough]

only cost $30

[marsh badge]

nice

[narrow bough]

and the arctic esports duo 34 cost around $47

not worth it?

[marsh badge]

nope

[narrow bough]

uhmm for the fans

[marsh badge]

still nope tbh

[narrow bough]

should i go with cooler master sickleflow or deepcool fc120

[marsh badge]

ah case fans now

hm, in this case i'd get the cooler master

[narrow bough]

okay bro thank you

uhmm actually @marsh badge whats the difference with the deepcool ak400 and ag400

and which is better

sorry for the ping

[marsh badge]

they're equal, just different looks

one has cleaner look, the ak

ag has heatpipes that protudes to the top

the ak has a plate that covers em

[narrow bough]

ohh thank you for the information

ill save your username and update you when i get that pc done thanks!

[marsh badge]

good luck on your new rig

[narrow bough]

one last think @marsh badge sorry for the ping again but if my fans dosent come with sata would a fan hub work? or how do i power all 9 fans

[marsh badge]

you get a fan hub

o11d has a hub if i remember right though

[narrow bough]

ohh imma check mine

like i saw a white box

but idk what it is

[marsh badge]

if not you'd have to buy one

[narrow bough]

mine does not have one i think

i have the oldest version

[marsh badge]

yeah probably not

you'll need a fan hub that also has argb support

[narrow bough]

would the DeepCool FH do?

fh 10

[marsh badge]

make sure it has argb headers

looks like it's only for the fans to get power

not for rgb

[narrow bough]

actually I can buy thermalright here

[narrow bough]

ill do this one

[marsh badge]

you can find that cooler in your country?

how much is it compared to ag400?

Also as for fan hub, I think you will need an argb hub too to control the rgb on the fans

[narrow bough]

$26 for white one

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/thermalright-pwm-fan-hub-pc-case-fan-controller-4-pin-support-10-computer-cpu-fans-splitter-pwm-i2679459147-s12773293779.html?

thermalright has one for 9.92 usd

[marsh badge]

thermalright hubs works well

tho that one is only for the fans to spin

[narrow bough]

how about their fans?

[marsh badge]

do get argb hub cause you need argb

their fans are pretty good

[narrow bough]

they have argb

[marsh badge]

especially the TL-12C

[narrow bough]

for 9.92usd

5v 3pin

[narrow bough]

do they have white?

[marsh badge]

thermalright hub?

also not sure

they probably do tho

[narrow bough]

yep

[narrow bough]

here

[marsh badge]

anyway to break it down for you

you will need pwm 4 pin fan hub

[narrow bough]

oh

[marsh badge]

then you will also need a 5v 3 pin argb hub

so that you can actually use the rgb

[narrow bough]

ahh thermalright has one

[marsh badge]

just to make sure tho, which version of the sickleflow are you buying?

are they argb?

yeah two hubs will be needed to power this many fans and still use rgb lel

[narrow bough]

yep

[marsh badge]

alright

then buy the thermalright hubs

pwm and argb

[narrow bough]

but the thermalrigh hub supports 10

[narrow bough]

yes

[marsh badge]

yeah that's my point

[narrow bough]

oh

[marsh badge]

the hubs can take 10 fans

but in order to have working rgb the argb hub is a need

otherwise it'd just look like normal fans except with clear blades

[narrow bough]

it says here that pwm & argb 8way fan hub

[marsh badge]

could you send me a link to it?

[narrow bough]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/thermalright-pwm-fan-hub-pc-case-fan-controller-4-pin-support-10-computer-cpu-fans-splitter-pwm-i2679459147-s19439810739.html?

[marsh badge]

oh the argb hub with rainbow colors is out of stock huh

that's a bummer

[narrow bough]

yep

[marsh badge]

well with the 8 way hub you'll only be able to power rgb of 8 fans

[narrow bough]

yep ill find alternatives

[marsh badge]

or you can do it the stupid way and buy two hubs

[narrow bough]

🤣🤣🤣

idk if my psu comes with many sata cable

it is the seasonic ssr-750x(white)

[marsh badge]

they should at least have two

[narrow bough]

for the motherboard and fans right?

[marsh badge]

im talking about sata power cables

[narrow bough]

oh

[marsh badge]

for the hub to be powered

[narrow bough]

well i think

for now

I'll get 3 intake fans

is it okay?

ryzen 5 5600x ₱8,250
‌Asrock b550m steel legend ₱7,950
‌gigabyte rtx 4060ti aero oc ₱28,950
‌team t force delta 2x8gb 3600mhz white ₱3,150
‌seasonic ssr-750x(white) ₱6,750
‌deepcool ag400 (white) ₱1,750

Triple Z tech
‌coolermaster sickleflow white 3×120mm fans ₱2,250

Amazon
‌wd black sn850x 1tb with heatsink ₱3,971

[marsh badge]

that's okay

[narrow bough]

this would be my build

[narrow bough]

with the o11 dynamic case

[marsh badge]

so you're getting just 3 fans?

[narrow bough]

yep

no exhaust

no exhaust on that case is fine right?

[marsh badge]

it's gonna be okay

for the parts you're buying

[narrow bough]

I'll be upgrading to an aio soon

[marsh badge]

what's the price of radeon 3060ti also?

cause 4060ti is barely any faster

[narrow bough]

they have the same price

i mean

[marsh badge]

it just consumes less power and has frame generation

[narrow bough]

idk why buy

3060ti

is more expensive

for like $40

[marsh badge]

ah

then 4060ti it is lmao

[narrow bough]

idk about these prices lol

[narrow bough]

yep

[marsh badge]

just 3 fans is perfectly fine

you can get an argb splitter btw

since you're only using 3 fans

[narrow bough]

what's that

[marsh badge]

it's just a cable for rgb

one cable that splits into three

[narrow bough]

i think it comes with the fans

i watch a review earlier

i mean

he daisy chain it

[marsh badge]

nah, the daisy chain is only to power the fans

not the rgb

[narrow bough]

oh

[marsh badge]

this fan has no rgb splitter included

only for pwm power

https://shopee.ph/Id-Cooling-ARGB-Splitter-3-Pin-1-to-4-i.316239752.3555821216

this will do for the rgb

[narrow bough]

well i think my motherboard has 4 slots

[marsh badge]

oh it's from china, hm, shipping gonna be pain

lemme check the board for ya

[narrow bough]

only $3 lol

with voucher can get it for free

[marsh badge]

the b550m steel legend only has two argb headers

still needs that splitter to get 3 fans

[narrow bough]

oh

I'll buy one

or just get a hub for future upgrades

[marsh badge]

up to you really

[narrow bough]

argb hub

[marsh badge]

cooler master and many other brands has argb splitters

cooler master even has 1 fo 5 splitters

but get a hub if you feel like it, in the end it's your choice

[narrow bough]

okay I'll get a hub

thank you so much

[digital wedge]

Got an alphacool block for Vega 56 and it's stupid heavy

[sleek prairie]

got a question. I have a Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO that i bought in 2019. I just upgraded from a R7 2700X to a R75800X3D now the AIO pretty much runs at at max all the time. while streaming and producing a broadcast of Iracing with VDO having 10 live feed cams in the broadcast the AIO only keeps the CPU to 75 to 80C. Should i purchase a new 240MM cooler or go up t0 a 360MM cooler

[sacred wren]

80c is safe

[knotty sparrow]

Yep. The chip is designed to be able to run at max temp 24/7, which is 90C on that one.

[sleek prairie]

oh forgot to mention i had to undervolt the CPU to keep it fro getting to 90C withing 3 mins after starting the stream

[knotty sparrow]

That's fine. That particular chip is actually the hottest one on that socket, being able to keep it under 90 at all is great.

[strange flume]

Pretty much

It's just a particularly hot Ryzen chip

Going to a 360 would barely make things better

[topaz blaze]

best white rgb fan?

i know theres a chart in the pins

but which one is the best

[knotty sparrow]

That depends on how much you're willing to spend per fan. I know some pretty great ones that are about $50 per fan.

[topaz blaze]

rn im looking at the

li an li sts

but idk if theres any better ones

[knotty sparrow]

They'll be the best in that price range of about $15 per fan

[strange flume]

Thermalright TL-C12C 3 pack white

15$ for 3, great fans

Not the best but by far best overall white rgb

Price to performance wise

[ocean pier]

Hi, is there a way to figure out if my PC build is compatible with liquid cooling? I have never done liquid cooling before so I really don't know where to begin.

I thought about using a pc part picker website and entering in my hardware and seeing what it tells me but I didn't know if there's an easier way.

[languid gale]

If you want to just go down the AIO route, it just depends on your case’s radiator support

[ocean pier]

Ok, how would I find that?

Sorry, I've never built anything or customized a PC outside of adding a GPU and RAM.

[sacred wren]

What case do you have

[barren gale]

swapping my galahad 360 aio for this, wish me luck

max fan speeds I still get throtlling

it seems my cooler broke down randomly :/

it's not leaking

it just doesn't cool

[ocean pier]

PowerSpec G426

[sacred wren]

That is awfully priced

[languid gale]

Ehh doubt it

[barren gale]

that's CAD $

[ocean pier]

It's not on PCPartPicker but here's what I have:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8bxXXy

[languid gale]

Yeah $170 is a complete scam

Even in CAD

[barren gale]

140$ for the brown version

[languid gale]

Find a phantom spirit 140

[marsh badge]

get thermalright coolers

[languid gale]

Should be a lot cheaper and better performing

[marsh badge]

phantom spirit or peerless assassin

[ocean pier]

Is that directed at me?

[languid gale]

Nah

[ocean pier]

Ok thanks

[languid gale]

Anyways, I don’t think you need liquid cooling

[barren gale]

stupid lian li has a 5 year warranty, it would still be covered but I lost the receipt

[sacred wren]

Not really a point in an aio

[barren gale]

lian li website for warranty claims :#

[languid gale]

Where did you buy it from?

[barren gale]

canada computers, in person

[languid gale]

Guessing they don’t do like member accounts?

[barren gale]

I looked and no :<

https://www.newegg.ca/p/0VE-01P6-00019?Description=thermalright&cm_re=thermalright-_-9SIBD51JUA8848-_-Product

https://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B0B8N9QV7P?th=1

why is it so much cheaper on amazon ? scam ?

[languid gale]

Third party on Newegg

[barren gale]

PC is black and white

would you go black or white or white RGB

[languid gale]

White RGB imo

[rotund sable]

why are you switching to this

[barren gale]

@rotund sable

I've swapped the thermal paste twice, made sure everything was setup perfect

every fan in the case is running at 100% speed

all the time full blast

and I'm getting 100c throttling non-stop playing video games lol

[twin ivy]

Pump prob died or sum

[barren gale]

I tried booting the PC with pump cable unplugged

it gets hot FAST

so the pump is doing some work at least

just not enough

buy good air coolers, water cooling is lame this is the second AIO that fails on me

[knotty sparrow]

Generally I do agree with you. If you pick the right one a $45 air cooler can match a 240mm AIO; there's less parts to fail too.

[barren gale]

paid around 175cad for this cooler too

less than 2 years ago

[twin ivy]

💀

[barren gale]

Thanks, got peerless assassin and it works perfectly fine 🙂

running CPU at 100% and it's not overheating 🙂

[barren gale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/suzi3z/possible_pump_failure_galahad_aio_240mm/

Bunch of people got the same issue, it fails early.

[ebon jacinth]

which rgb fans should i buy for 4000D case?

no idea if one is better than the other

[rotund sable]

arctic p12 argb
Pack of 3 goes for like 30usd?

[ebon jacinth]

thanks I will consider it

[bold birch]

Depends on your budget but some Corsair rgb fans would be nice

Expensive but nice

[sacred wren]

not really

just expensive

[knotty sparrow]

Yes I too love spending $30 on a fan that's worse than a $5 fan

[bold birch]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-fan-wall-corsair-fans-ll-rgb-fans-corsair-fan-wall-corsair-rgb-gif-13435146

They’re worse for the price but the rgb is cool

[sacred wren]

there's a three pack of rgb fans for $15 that are better

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vq6p99/thermalright-tl-c12c-s-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-s-x3-d6

or $45 for fans that are much better, and are also quiet https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/arctic-p12-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-acfan00232a

[weary raft]

Hmmmm what slim fan should I get, it should be..... airflow optimized? Since it's going to be on the case
It should have fluid dynamic bearings or Maglev or whatever silent long lasting bearing that exists
Also no rgb

Colour doesn't matter since I already use noctua fans

[bright ether]

so my liquid freezer II fans arnt spinning even when my CPU gets to 100% load and > 80C. Any ideas?

I also cant control the fans in bios

[shrewd juniper]

Sounds like you might have dead fans, but considering you cant control them in bios(very odd) they could not be plugged in properly if they are, try a fan control software in windows

[shrewd juniper]

@strange flume deepcool new cpu cooler : assassin iv uwu

[strange flume]

Bound to be good

But their premium one innit?

[shrewd juniper]

Prolly idk i just got an email from mr. Cool

[strange flume]

Lmao

[bright ether]

Any recommendations on which software?

[bright ether]

also the pump vrm spins if that means anything

[bright ether]

update: when I move the rad out of the case the fans spin, but when I put it in the case, they stop

[knotty sparrow]

Could be a loose cable

[bright ether]

on the rad or one of connectors on the motherboard

[knotty sparrow]

Somewhere between the pump and the fans

[bright ether]

also do u think under full load 70C is high for 7800x3d?

i know it runs hot but 70c?

[knotty sparrow]

70C is perfectly fine

[bright ether]

so on the aio, not on the board?

[knotty sparrow]

It's designed to run at 95C 24/7

[knotty sparrow]

yes

[bright ether]

ok ill look when i get some time, thanks

[bright ether]

isnt tjmax 89c?

[knotty sparrow]

Right 3D, missed that part

Still, it boosts until it hits the max until it either can't boost any more or it hits the thermal limit

[bright ether]

i just feel like for lf II 420 its a bit hot, but if its not thottling i dont really care

[knotty sparrow]

My 5800X still hits 80C on the same cooler

[bright ether]

ok so i guess im fine, thx

[bright ether]

i checked and there are no loose cables, when the rad goes into the case, the fans stop, its the weirdest thing

if im outside the case, the fans spin, but if i move the rad vertically up but keep the prientation in a front pull with tubes down, the fans stop spinning

[shrewd juniper]

Whatever your motherboard manufacturer offers on their site would work best

[knotty sparrow]

It really sounds like the internal Daisy chain connector came loose. That part isn't serviceable so I'd contact Arctic, their support is good in my experience.

[bright ether]

will do, thx

[knotty sparrow]

Did you get a good OC with all that shmoo

[strange fiber]

i know its expensive, but specifically just for a cpu, is watercooling worth?

[sacred wren]

Depends on the cpu

There's plenty of $35-45 air coolers that match 240mm aios

[knotty sparrow]

If it's a 13900k then watercooling is basically necessary

Freaking pulls almost 400W at stock

[strange fiber]

great heavens

[strange fiber]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BYYFG5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

is this... good?

decent reviews other than the fans being a little loud but you can max them at 1400rpm and it fixes it (or just replace them lol), the gamble for used seems worth as well

[marsh badge]

nah

ml240 sucks

[knotty sparrow]

I had that one. The fans died after a year and a half and the pump is really loud too.

By the time you replace the fans, why didn't you just get a better cooler with that money?

[strange fiber]

real

ty for the wisdom

[sacred wren]

Thermalright frozen notte 240 is a little over $50 on amazon

Great aio

[strange fiber]

compatible with the aforementioned 7700?

[sacred wren]

Believe so but it should list compatibility on the page

I know it works with lga 1700

[strange fiber]

it does but it also pops up with a warning that they aren't always compatible 🙃

[normal ocean]

Guys is lower rpm good to make your fans quiet or higher?

[sacred wren]

Then yes it's fine

If it doesn't come with the bracket, contact thermalright for one

[strange fiber]

From my understanding, lower rpm’s with most fans will make them quieter, I’ve read somewhere around 1400 for some fans can be a sweet spot but I’m also not the most knowledgeable and every fan can be different

[marsh badge]

Yeah every fans are different

Your case also impacts fan noise

[normal ocean]

Alright thanks

[strange fiber]

no problem :)

[sweet lodge]

is this KD Industrial?

[weary raft]

I still need this, haven't had the time to do research

[left pulsar]

(Northern CA around 3200ft elevation.

[rotund sable]

Terrible weather

[uneven solstice]

I feel ya

Sorry for double ping. Doxed myself in first ss 😅

[scarlet palm]

What the 🦆

This is quAcked

I ordered one and I got 10

I think my cooling will be subzero

[marsh badge]

what the hell

free fans

[scarlet palm]

Also these are huge

bigger than I realized

I hope they dont end up sending a whole pallet

ive had that happen once

not from newegg

[uneven solstice]

I need 6. Can send my way!

[shrewd juniper]

Wanna swap? It was raining basically non stop for 2 days here

[bright ether]

W arctic, they sent me a new aio free of charge

[scarlet palm]

the capacitors are in the way

by the smallest amount

ah nevermind the instruction manual was out of order

[scarlet palm]

this is the third instruction manual that did this

the P3 case manual’s pictures were tiny

[weary raft]

Remove the caps (frfr trust)

[scarlet palm]

it ends up sitting just above those, but it still seems sus, but luckily it works out

[sweet lodge]

remove cap and attach it from the back

[scarlet palm]

I mean I guess it is alright as long as the poles are correct

[sweet lodge]

yeah, it's done on gpus to fit pots occasionally

[strange flume]

Official review of Thermalright B12's

They really are just A12x25/Gentle Typhoons

Silent af and very good airflow

(No, don't ask, I don't have a fan tester)