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knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 2:57 PM

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Probably, but that does hurt performance a bit and it's black fluid so you won't see it much.

harsh crow May 30, 2023, 2:57 PM

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Fair.

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I was kinda invisioning like a marble look by adding dye to the graphene

idle tiger May 30, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Any coolant with a sediment is a headache of maintenance. Opaque stuff, rheoscopic, etc

knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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Test how it looks by mixing a little in a cup

idle tiger May 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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I use prestone Installer

harsh crow May 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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idle tiger Any coolant with a sediment is a headache of maintenance. Opaque stuff, rheosco...

How often would it need draining?

idle tiger May 30, 2023, 2:59 PM

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harsh crow How often would it need draining?

Don't forget the cleaning of all the blocks and rads

knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 3:00 PM

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A sonic cleaner would be a smart investment with all those parts to clean

harsh crow May 30, 2023, 3:00 PM

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..... Yeahhh

knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 3:00 PM

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Probably... every 6 months or so max?

harsh crow May 30, 2023, 3:01 PM

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Hmmm gotcha

idle tiger May 30, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Probably less with high quality coolant, idk, you really have to value that aesthetic to justify it imo

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Check out the watercoloring Reddit discord

knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 3:05 PM

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The graphene coolant foamed a lot in the testing so I'd say it's not that high quality long term

slow condor May 30, 2023, 7:06 PM

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is it possible that the gpu runs hotter if running games on a fast nvme instead of a slower hdd?

knotty sparrow May 30, 2023, 8:32 PM

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The storage device would have absolutely nothing to do with GPU temps, except in the rare case that it's running a lower fps on the HDD.

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:07 AM

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Is any D5 pump good for a loop or are there specific ones I should look for?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:08 AM

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You should use the one that comes with the leakshield, easier to make sure it's all compatible

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https://www.titanrig.com/aquacomputer-ultitube-d5-next-100-pro-pump-reservoir-combo-with-leakshield-03-55-ar-0109-01-on.html

Aquacomputer ULTITUBE D5 NEXT 100 PRO Pump/Reservoir Combo with LEA...

The 100 ULTITUBE D5 PRO LEAKSHIELD comes as a combination, consisting of reservoir/pump combo and leakshieldThe borosilicate glass reservoir, with a diameter of 65mm, has a very high hardness and scratch resistanceRounded off with an impressive RGBpx-compatible LED ring, with 13 addressable LEDsLEAKSHIELD actively protects against leaks by creat...

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:13 AM

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Gotcha.

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Hmmm. If I did a dual loop would it be a bad idea to include the ram in one of the loops?

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Cause it seems doing a triple loop is gonna be a bit wonky placement wise for the third pump.

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:14 AM

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No issue at all

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You can do a 480mm for the GPU and the second 480mm for the CPU, RAM, and SSD. I bet the coolant would never get above 30C.

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:15 AM

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Oh really?

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Even if the CPU draws 350w?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:16 AM

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A 480mm has about 500W of cooling potential

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:16 AM

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knotty sparrow https://www.titanrig.com/aquacomputer-ultitube-d5-next-100-pro-pump-reservoir-co...

..... Are these really $320???

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:17 AM

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knotty sparrow A 480mm has about 500W of cooling potential

What's the cooling potential of a 560mm Monsta then?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:17 AM

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Yes, the leakshield alone is $120 and that's without the mounting hardware

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:17 AM

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harsh crow What's the cooling potential of a 560mm Monsta then?

Probably closer to 700W or more

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:17 AM

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.......

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I see.

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I think I will go with a dual loop then since it won't look wonky with having a D5 pump dead center of the case.

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Plus save myself $320....

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Thank g0d all the water cooling parts aside from the water blocks can be reused for years to come.

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:20 AM

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Fittings and O-rings will need replacing after a few years too

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:22 AM

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That's what $100-150 every few years?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 7:22 AM

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Give or take yeah

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 7:22 AM

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That's reasonable.

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I can't seem to find that pump on Amazon China and the one from Amazon.com won't ship there. Does having the leak shield on the pump offer any benefit besides being easier to setup?

sweet lodge May 31, 2023, 8:58 AM

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i cooled a 7980xe and xoc bios 2080ti with a single 60mm thick 360mm rad with p12's in push

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not ideal at all but manageable

dreamy locust May 31, 2023, 10:25 AM

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I've found a deal on some thermalright tl c12c fans (3) for just 11€. This is usually the price of just a single p/f12 fan from arctic, how do they compare in terms of performance and noise?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 10:29 AM

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They're pretty decent. Not as quiet as P12s but they're up there in performance.

dreamy locust May 31, 2023, 10:32 AM

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So should I get the deal? To me it looks really good since it's just 11 bucks
Or else there's the p12 value pack for usually 30-35€ but I feel like I'd spend too much

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Yeah that's a great deal, go for it

dreamy locust May 31, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Btw I just found a video comparison that included p12 and c12, the difference in noise is very small

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About 3-4db

shrewd juniper May 31, 2023, 11:21 AM

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And the c12 has pretty rgb for more fps stonks1

dreamy locust May 31, 2023, 11:40 AM

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It's the non RGB version :[
No fps

shrewd juniper May 31, 2023, 12:01 PM

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Pepehands

languid gale May 31, 2023, 1:16 PM

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Just to make sure, probably should’ve asked earlier, this pump is fine right? https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xtop-ddc-3-2-pwm-elite-acetal-incl-pump

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-XTOP DDC 4.2 PWM Elite - Acetal (incl. pump)

EK-XTOP DDC 4.2 PWM Elite - Acetal (incl. pump) is a High-Performance water cooling pump. The core of the unit is the market-proven EK-DDC 4.2 PWM water pump (4-pin PWM FAN header) and comes pre-assembled with EK-XTOP DDC - Acetal and EK-DDC Heatsink Housing - Black.

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Also, how would I go about a drain port?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 1:22 PM

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DDC pumps are fine for most loops unless you're doing something crazy like a dual rad or other high resistance stuff.
If there's no built in fill port I'll just cut out a section of tube big enough to add my own, near the bottom of the loop.

languid gale May 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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knotty sparrow DDC pumps are fine for most loops unless you're doing something crazy like a dua...

…im doing triple rad

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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You'll probably want a D5 pump then

languid gale May 31, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Any recommendations for a pump?

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Or should I just look into a dual loop?

knotty sparrow May 31, 2023, 1:33 PM

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You could do twin pumps

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Or just any D5 from a name brand really

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The D5 is basically twice the size so it does the job of two DDC pumps

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If you did dual pump you could choose to run them in parallel to get more flow or in serial to get more pressure. Pressure might be good with all those rads.

languid gale May 31, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Rip my reservoir won’t fit

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Welp, y’all got recommendations for a reservoir?

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Oh wait Falcie. What are smaller less powerful pump options that would be fine for a ram loop?

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 9:35 PM

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languid gale Welp, y’all got recommendations for a reservoir?

Price and size restrictions?

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Oh NVM.

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You said reservoir. Thought you said pump/reservoir.

languid gale May 31, 2023, 9:37 PM

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This sadly doesn’t fit https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-volume-flt-360-d-rgb-plexi

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-Quantum Volume FLT 360 D-RGB - Plexi

All new Flat (FLT) series EK-Quantum Volume FLT reservoir units! The new Volume reservoirs are part of the EK Quantum Line of products and come with sophisticated addressable D-RGB lighting implementation. Each reservoir is featuring standard 120mm fan mounting holes for maximum flexibility during the installation. The reservoir is equipped with...

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Really thought it would sadly

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Hmm maybe a 240 can fit

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 9:41 PM

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Do you have a pump/res combo?

harsh crow May 31, 2023, 9:41 PM

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harsh crow Do you have a pump/res combo?

That should honestly be fine.

languid gale May 31, 2023, 9:43 PM

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Nvm that side mount can’t work because of my EATX mobo

languid gale May 31, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Also is it worth the extra money to just get a CPU block over a mono block?

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Because the mobo block I got was $80ish

strange flume May 31, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Not really. As long as it fits

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You could make a case for better thermals depending on the block but cheaper is definitely better in it's own way

languid gale May 31, 2023, 10:48 PM

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That’s the other thing, I gotta see if this fits LOL

strange flume May 31, 2023, 10:48 PM

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@languid gale make sure you have a contact frame or backplate before you put all this on

languid gale May 31, 2023, 10:49 PM

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strange flume <@480883524203839508> make sure you have a contact frame or backplate before you...

Already had a contact frame since day 1 of my 13900k

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My mono block is made for a Z690 Aorus Master

strange flume May 31, 2023, 10:49 PM

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Ahh good cos better cooling + ass ILM = no improvement in bad cases

strange flume May 31, 2023, 10:49 PM

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languid gale My mono block is made for a Z690 Aorus Master

I have no answer for this, maybe someone on google might know

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My expectation is no it won't but maybe

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It's a niche case

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Monoblocks themselves aren't too common

languid gale May 31, 2023, 10:55 PM

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strange flume I have no answer for this, maybe someone on google might know

Google had nothing about it

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Looking at the boards I dont really see a difference between them so I think it might fit

strange flume May 31, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Only one way to find out then

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Worth a reddit post if you figure it out tbh

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Someone else may want to try it

languid gale May 31, 2023, 11:19 PM

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Ehhh how easy is it to reverse taking off the heat sinks and stuff?

strange flume May 31, 2023, 11:21 PM

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I wouldn't have a clue mate it's always different

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 12:13 AM

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Okay so the block by itself fits

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Now I’m trying to figure out how to get the rest of the stuff with it mounted

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Like the IO shield housing

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 1:27 AM

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using air cooler for the first time in years

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finally have a case that has somewhat cooler clearance lmao

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:40 AM

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So it fits on the board BUT you can’t use the IO shield housing pieces

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knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Monoblocks, yay

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:41 AM

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And you need to unscrew some extra plastic piece off of it

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Ehh was worth a shot since it was so cheap

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:42 AM

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Honestly looks kinda cool like that.

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:42 AM

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Yeah no it doesn’t

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I didn’t drop $500 on a board for it to look like something a lot cheaper

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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To each their own.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Yeah monoblocks are great, but kind of a pain

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Oh just noticed no covers on the SSDs.

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Looks like a got a DS3H and slapped a mobo block on it

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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harsh crow Oh just noticed no covers on the SSDs.

That’s temporary

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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languid gale Looks like a got a DS3H and slapped a mobo block on it

Oiio

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Don't diss me like that man.

strange flume Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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It probably works fine tho lmao

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Oh it will work fine

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Aesthetic tho kekAnimated

strange flume Jun 1, 2023, 2:44 AM

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Could you maybe trim the io piece?

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:44 AM

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I mean I could do some sketchy metal fab

strange flume Jun 1, 2023, 2:45 AM

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If it lines up with the block that's a W imo

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:45 AM

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Too much hassle to be worth it

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:45 AM

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I really liked that stacked metal look on the IO ngl.

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:45 AM

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I’d rather spend $50 extra or so and not have to worry about it

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 2:45 AM

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Not a big fan of the exposed wires on the top left though.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:46 AM

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There's nothing some well placed Dremeling can't fix

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:47 AM

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I’d have to make new mount holes

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Mono block uses the old ones

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:47 AM

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If it's purely decorative at that point then glue it

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:48 AM

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True

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Either way I think imma just return it since I’m already returning two things to EKWB

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Reservoir too big and I’m getting a better pump

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:50 AM

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Could do a pump/res combo instead then

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 2:52 AM

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Any suggestions for one?

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I was thinking this https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-kinetic-flt-240-d5-pwm-d-rgb-plexi

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 240 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi

All new Flat (FLT) series EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT D5 pump-reservoir units! The new Kinetic combo units are part of the EK Quantum Line of products and come with sophisticated addressable D-RGB lighting implementation and a genuine D5 pump! Each unit is featuring standard 120mm fan mounting holes for maximum flexibility during the installation. Th...

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If I were doing seperate pump/res I’d be getting this reservoir anyway

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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That would work nicely

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 5:55 AM

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How much do you guys think it would cost for a dual loop?

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:02 AM

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$700 on the cheap end give or take

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Including everything

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Better stuff costs more ofc

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:10 AM

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I see.

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So I should be able to do a pretty good dual loop for $1000?

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Because I was looking around and $4500 gets me a dream build without custom loops so I was wondering how much the custom loops would add.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:11 AM

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A pretty decent one yeah

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:15 AM

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You think I can also get the leak shield stuff within that budget?

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Also what water blocks do ya recommend for AM5 and 4090? I am trying to put together a list to get a sense for how much it will cost for the closed loop.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:17 AM

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I've never looked at AM5 blocks and it depends on the model of 4090

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Yeah you should be able to fit the leakshield in that budget if you play your cards right

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:19 AM

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Oh, I thought the 4090s all shared the same PCB minus the HOF ones.

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:20 AM

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knotty sparrow I've never looked at AM5 blocks and it depends on the model of 4090

Aorus Master cus I love the looks of those things. My plan currently is save up 4.5k to get the setup done on air then get another 1k saved to put it all into a custom loop.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:24 AM

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https://www.titanrig.com/alphacool-eisblock-aurora-geforce-rtx-4090-aorus-master-gaming-gpu-water-block-with-backplate-03-20-ac-0306-01-on.html
Or
https://www.newegg.com/p/2YM-009D-001T8

Alphacool Eisblock Aurora Geforce RTX 4090 Aorus Master - Gaming GP...

GPU water block for the Gigabyte Aorus Master 4090 graphics cardIncludes backplateMaterial Bottom: Nickel-plated CopperMaterial Cover: Acrylic (Plexi) Dimensions: 233.3 x 152.46 x 33.9mm

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For reference here's the PCB of the aorus master

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And here's the MSI Gaming X trio for comparison

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:25 AM

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Also if I remember correctly I shouldn't mix copper and aluminum together yes?

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:26 AM

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knotty sparrow For reference here's the PCB of the aorus master

I see, much more different then I expected.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:26 AM

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Ideally yes, nickel plated copper would be ok if you needed

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:26 AM

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So preference is copper with copper but if needed copper will work with Nickle?

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:27 AM

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Nickel would just be a thin plating covering more copper

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That way the copper doesn't react and corrode

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:27 AM

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Gotcha.

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Also if I am going this far to water cool, should I delid or use Liquid Metal?

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For best results.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:29 AM

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For AM5 what you can do is lap the IHS and use liquid metal on that

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This way you don't expose the dies and sensitive components under the IHS while still getting massive cooling gains

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:29 AM

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Gotcha.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Delidding is mostly safe these days but there's always risk involved

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Gosh I gotta find a new word. I keep using "gotcha".

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Does delid offer better results?

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Honestly no

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Or are they like within margin of error.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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It's very close

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Will do lapping and lm then.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:30 AM

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Definitely nothing worth the risk of delid

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:36 AM

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I forgot I can use amazon.com as well and not just .cn

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That opens up my options dramatically.

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Currently considering this beauty.
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-GB4090GB-GIGABYTE-Nickel-Plated-Digital-RGB/dp/B0BLY6G2XF/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?crid=343GHGTDD5USJ&keywords=RTX+4090+waterblock+aorus&qid=1685601299&refresh=1&sprefix=rtx+4090+waterblock+aorus%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-17

Phanteks (PH-GB4090GB) Glacier G4090 GIGABYTE for GIGABYTE AORUS Ma...

Glacier G4090 GIGABYTE Water Block comes with integrated D-RGB lighting that beautifully complements the water block and can synchronize with Phanteks' D-RGB accessories and compatible third-party products. Lastly, the included CNC machined black anodized or chrome plating aluminum backplate cove...

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:43 AM

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That does eat 1/4th of your budget

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:43 AM

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Ooof true.

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 6:47 AM

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50c idle temp with a downclock on a 7700x cant be good right

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 6:48 AM

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Idle doesn't matter much

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How is it under load?

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:49 AM

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Going with the Bykski nickle block.

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 6:49 AM

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gonna boot a game to see

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:49 AM

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$209

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Ooof, just the CPU block and the Bykski block after shipping and import is already at $500.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:03 AM

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You can order most stuff off of aliexpress once you get to china

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:04 AM

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Hmmm true, though for now I suppose this works as a reference which is the point of it.

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 7:07 AM

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knotty sparrow How is it under load?

like 80c with 40% usage on cpu

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should have a -30 on everything

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about 1.3v

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:08 AM

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That's fine

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:08 AM

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Bloody hell, the leak shield that delivers to China wants to charge $230 per thing.

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 7:09 AM

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feel like i was getting better temps from when i only had a 240aio and no other fans

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might try putting in a 280aio and see what happens

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:09 AM

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AM5 is designed to run up to 95C without throttling so anything below that is great

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 7:10 AM

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fair but this was suppose to be an upgrade in thermals since i was going with a bigger case

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:10 AM

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Bigger case doesn't always mean better thermals

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That's usually bigger fans on the bigger cases that do that

supple harbor Jun 1, 2023, 7:11 AM

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yeh, but its made by the same designer to better achieve thermals/fit larger gpus

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:12 AM

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Upping the water loop budget to 1200.

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China imports taxes are horrendous.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:14 AM

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You can buy most of the stuff very cheap on the streets though

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Anything you can find on aliexpress you can find in a market in China

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:20 AM

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Fair. The PC markets are pretty decent in China.

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Will keep the budget at 1200 for now and all goes well I can get all the parts for like 800-1000 by buying them in person if it's available in the Chinese computer markets.

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....... The Aquacomputer ULTITUBE D5 Next 100 PRO Pump/Reservoir Combo with Leak Guard costs $400 each after import/shipping in China. With that type of cost I am wondering if just one is strong enough to move water through two 560mm Monsta rads.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:36 AM

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Yes, a single D5 can easily push through that

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:37 AM

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I am considering going the start with 1 pump and in the future once you got more monies saved buy another pump route.

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Cause $900 and I don't even got fittings, tubes, or tube bending kit yet.

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:38 AM

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knotty sparrow Yes, a single D5 can easily push through that

That's good to know. Gonna start with a single loop, and overtime as I save up add another loop till I got the triple loop then.

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What tubes and fittings do you recommend?

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:48 AM

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PMMA tubes, fittings you can pick what looks good

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PMMA is shatter resistant, easier to cut without having sharp edges, and doesn't blister as easily when heated

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:52 AM

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Aighty.

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Also, how does the 560mm xt45 rads compare to the Monsta variant?

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I can't seem to find the 560mm Monsta variants on Amazon.

knotty sparrow Jun 1, 2023, 7:53 AM

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Dual of either would be more than enough

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 7:53 AM

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Fair. Though I am curious.

dreamy locust Jun 1, 2023, 11:36 AM

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Arrived in less than 24 hours
Amazing

dry wren Jun 1, 2023, 12:50 PM

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Hi!
Did anybody know if the Lian-li uni-fan P28 fit in the back of Lancool 216? Especially for the thickness... The Lian-li support just tell me any 120 mm fan...
At worst, I gonna find a Noctua fan... 😛

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I'm talking about the 'Rear fan' that seem recommanded with high-end graphics cards...

marsh badge Jun 1, 2023, 12:54 PM

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You don't need that fancy of a fan

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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How important is the rear 140mm exhaust in a custom loop? I’m thinking about just mounting a reservoir on it

marsh badge Jun 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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Nah

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ssd and ram doesn't need that much cooling

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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I’m not cooling SSD and RAM

marsh badge Jun 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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Yeah, but I'm just saying

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Cause the cpu and gpu will already be in the loop

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There's no coolers that needs to move air

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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Oh I get what you meant now

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I thought meant nah as in keep the fan

marsh badge Jun 1, 2023, 1:00 PM

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The fans on the rad will provide the airflow some stuff will need

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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Also is it necessary that the reservoir goes straight into the pump?

dry wren Jun 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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@marsh badge which fan you recommand?

marsh badge Jun 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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I don't really know, but I'd guess the shortest path would be best

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As for fans

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Arctic P12 would do the job just fine

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 1:03 PM

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Arctic P12s weggChefKiss

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All of my builds used them or P14s without any issues

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Direct die or normal block? Hmmm

dry wren Jun 1, 2023, 2:00 PM

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ho... Artic P12 is available in white ...

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 3:51 PM

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harsh crow ....... The Aquacomputer ULTITUBE D5 Next 100 PRO Pump/Reservoir Combo with Lea...

If you don't need the leak shield you can buy a d5 pretty cheap

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Like $60 or something like that from freeze mod if I'm remembering right

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I'd also say go for a thinner higher fpi rad unless you are going semi passive for radiator

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Like gtx or koolance 30fpi

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Maybe even gtr if you're going high static pressure

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Oh wait, you're in China right?

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It might be cheaper for you to go with the old version of the bykski rc rad

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They are like $69 I think unless they finally sold out

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 4:04 PM

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digital wedge If you don't need the leak shield you can buy a d5 pretty cheap

You have any idea if EK’s direct die LGA1700 block is any good? I’m hearing mixed opinions

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Trying to see if it’s worth delidding my 13900k

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 5:41 PM

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digital wedge They are like $69 I think unless they finally sold out

Going with either dual 560mm XT45 or Monsta rads from Alpha cool was the plan since this build will be using the Thermaltake Tower 900.

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As tempting as not getting a Leak shield sounds, I don't want to take any risks with potentially killing 5 grand worth of hardware because I cheaper out.

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 5:52 PM

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Damnit, bykski sent me the wrong water block, I got a water block for a gigabyte Gaming OC 6900xt

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Time to wait another 5 days for the new one to show up

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 5:58 PM

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Ooof

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What's consider high in fin density for radiators?

twin ivy Jun 1, 2023, 6:11 PM

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One with alot of fins

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 6:12 PM

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.....

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Like 10 fpi, 20 fpi, 50 fpi or what?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 7:34 PM

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languid gale You have any idea if EK’s direct die LGA1700 block is any good? I’m hearing mixe...

It sucks. It has like 0.3mm or more height variance on contact plate which means stupid high temps if you use liquid metal and if you aren't using liquid metal no point going direct die.

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I think there is one by ice man you could use instead that's actually usable

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 7:38 PM

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harsh crow Going with either dual 560mm XT45 or Monsta rads from Alpha cool was the plan si...

There should be 560mm options for all the rads I mentioned. They will simply perform better and take less space and other than gtx or gtr would cost less. Monsta is just a really thick low fpi rad. It's meant more for low rpm rigs that are semi passive but it's not that good relative to most 60mm rads and some 45mm rads unfortunately.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 7:38 PM

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languid gale Time to wait another 5 days for the new one to show up

L

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I'd be pretty upset

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 7:39 PM

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harsh crow What's consider high in fin density for radiators?

30

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25-30

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https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/

This is a nice starting point for radiator research

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It has enough of a base sample that you can usually find something to compare to other reviews too to help compare parts more effectively

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 7:53 PM

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digital wedge It sucks. It has like 0.3mm or more height variance on contact plate which means...

I’ll just go for the standard one then, rather not mess around with delidding for the first time on a 13900k

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 7:53 PM

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languid gale I’ll just go for the standard one then, rather not mess around with delidding fo...

If not deliding is say go Optimus or tech N

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 8:00 PM

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digital wedge If not deliding is say go Optimus or tech N

What about the EK Quantum Velocity2? I absolutely love the way it looks

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 8:00 PM

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It looks cool but not a great performer and stupid overpriced imo

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 8:06 PM

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How much worse does it perform to other options?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 8:56 PM

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languid gale How much worse does it perform to other options?

Depends on the rest of the loop but I like to think of it kinda like how a gtx xx60 card would be while the others are kinda like what a gtx xx90 or 80ti would be for waterblock

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In reality for most loops probably just a few c and maybe more on more overkill loops but it not like it's unusable

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Just really bad price basically imo

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 9:02 PM

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I’m going to be running 2 360 rads, a 420 rad, 2 D5 pumps and a cpu block and gpu block

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Yea, I'd def say go for a higher surface area block then

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 9:03 PM

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System is a 13900k and 6950xt

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:03 PM

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Your liquids probably gonna be pretty close to ambient and flow speed won't be a big issue

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The velocity would limit your loop a bit

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:04 PM

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languid gale System is a 13900k and 6950xt

Lmk if you want any help overclocking the 6950xt

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 9:04 PM

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Ahh ok, do you have any recommendations for a block that would look good with a Z790 Aorus Master?

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Mobo for reference

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:04 PM

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I put the 6950xt ahead of the 4080 on firestrike leaderboards lol

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 9:05 PM

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…and I thought I was doing well with it kekAnimated

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:05 PM

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languid gale Ahh ok, do you have any recommendations for a block that would look good with a ...

Optimus or techN's Intel blocks

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 9:05 PM

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digital wedge Lmk if you want any help overclocking the 6950xt

I’ll definitely take you up on that

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Bruh Optimus has a month long wait

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And I can’t find a techN LGA1700 block

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Is the Watercool heat killer IV any good?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 9:53 PM

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@languid gale https://www.igorslab.de/en/techn-cpu-waterblock-against-watercool-heatkiller-andek-quantum-magnitude/2/

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Heatkiller IV is good

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Basically within margin of error of TechN

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I think I’ll get the HK4 then

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Unless I can find an Optimus block somewhere that won’t take a month

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 PM

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digital wedge There should be 560mm options for all the rads I mentioned. They will simply per...

Gotcha. Also thanks for helping me out.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 PM

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No worries

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Always glad to help 👍

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 PM

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I am gonna browse through that site you just sent but which rads do you recommend then that are 560mm with high fin density?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 PM

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Gtx or koolance 30fpi are my go to

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 PM

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I would like to take advantage of the Tower 900's obnoxious radiator support once I get it.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:29 PM

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Ideally koolance cause it's much cheaper and with high enough pressure fans does a bit better

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:30 PM

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What brand is the GTX from?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Hardware labs

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:31 PM

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Yep, those are the rads I got

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A 360 and a 420 GTX, and a 360 GTS

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Nice beefy build LOL

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Can't find a GTX rad that ships to China in Amazon. Now looking for Koolance

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Found the GTX 420mm though.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 PM

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@harsh crow in China the old bykski rc might be ideal

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 PM

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Any ideas on how I can fit a FLT360 reservoir into a Lancool III if I already have 2 360rads and a 420?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 PM

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Tbh not sure

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 PM

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languid gale Any ideas on how I can fit a FLT360 reservoir into a Lancool III if I already ha...

Stick it outside xD.

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 PM

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I’m being lazy and don’t want to deal with returning a bunch of stuff at once

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Already returning a mono block and a pump

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 PM

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I got an insane amount of rads in haf700 though lol

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 PM

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Bought the mobo block because it was $70 and worth a gamble because it was made for a Z690 Aorus Master and not a Z790

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:38 PM

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Got 3x 360mm rads and a 240 all in push pull then a 200x400 in the front

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:38 PM

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DAMN

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:38 PM

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languid gale Bought the mobo block because it was $70 and worth a gamble because it was made ...

Very likely won't be compatible

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If you can still return I'd say do so

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:39 PM

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digital wedge Very likely won't be compatible

Oh it mounts on fine with a bit of mods

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But I can’t get the IO plastic housing on with the mono block on

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:39 PM

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Oh, you got it working!

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Nice

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Is it making contact with fets?

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Yeah everything is making contact

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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digital wedge I got an insane amount of rads in haf700 though lol

How bad is the maintenance on that.....?

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Only thing different between the two boards is the IO panel

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Cause I know z height changed

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Oh Z height changed?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 PM

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languid gale Yeah everything is making contact

That's good

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Oh wait

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You said z690

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Nm

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I'm dumb

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Lol

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 PM

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Yeah it’s definitely different than my Z590

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 PM

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harsh crow How bad is the maintenance on that.....?

Not bad

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Dual loop so really easy to swap parts too

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I use koolance 702 so fluid is pretty insanely resilient

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 PM

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I do prefer the look of this though so I’m returning the monoblock

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 PM

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digital wedge I use koolance 702 so fluid is pretty insanely resilient

Would love to see the PC, mind sending a pic?

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 PM

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Real shame I can’t wait the 4 weeks for that Optimus foundation block, I love the look of it so much

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 PM

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@harsh crow

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Changed ram cooling though

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Looks amazing.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 PM

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Thx 🙏

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 PM

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How often do you need to do maintenance?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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languid gale I do prefer the look of this though so I’m returning the monoblock

Super based!

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Oc formula

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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That's like my biggest concern with water cooling.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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harsh crow How often do you need to do maintenance?

Tbh, I could probably leave it running 3 years with nothing done cause the fluid I use

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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digital wedge Super based!

OP of a card for $650

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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But I do cooling mods every so often

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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languid gale OP of a card for $650

I use the same one lol

harsh crow Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 PM

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digital wedge Tbh, I could probably leave it running 3 years with nothing done cause the fluid...

Oh wow. What fluid? I'd be happy if I can leave my system as is for a year at a time.

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 PM

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My top firestrike score beat the top 4080 score with it lol

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 PM

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harsh crow Oh wow. What fluid? I'd be happy if I can leave my system as is for a year at ...

Koolance 702

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Oh sick, so the 6900xt bykski block fits without issues?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Yep

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Although I'd suggest swapping pads

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Yeah I have pads ready to go

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 PM

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I figured out it uses 3w/mk pads

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I was gonna do this instead of pads

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 PM

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What changed your mind?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Found out the shims I sanded just 1/10th of a mm too thick and didn't want to sand them again though so I just used my 20w/mk pads

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Literally just me being lazy lol

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Might go pack and put them back in later

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Damn what pads are you using?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I still have a lot of kpx

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languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:52 PM

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I just bought the thermal right extreme odyssey pads

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12.8w/mk

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:52 PM

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Ngl, they are pretty cheap

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And actually have some depth unlike graphite pads

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Think it’s worth returning the thermalright pads?

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Nah

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They are probably good enough

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Just the stock ones suck

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Might be why I can barely increase my mem clocks

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 PM

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You can still use them on things like vrm and chokes and backplate but for the memory I'd use good pads

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 PM

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And also do you just have some god of a 6950 or something? I can’t get my core clock stable above 2775 mhz iirc

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:55 PM

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What voltage are you using?

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I used 1290mv for most of those runs

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Ahh ok

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Can get it up to 3ghz

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Most I brought my voltage up was to 1225

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and that didn’t really help clocks at all so I brought it back down to 1.2V

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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You can definitely bench with more if on water

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I've been using 1350mv while trying to get my timespy scores to make sense

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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Yeah I’m really looking forward to getting this loop done

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I’m just doing one big single loop though so not sure how that’ll be compared to a dual loop

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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If you can send me pics of your mpt profile I could help you tune it

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What's your fclk at?

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I know a lot of people cap between 1250 and 1300 fclk

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:58 PM

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Don’t remember, my PC is kinda apart rn

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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No worries

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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Because I was planning on starting building the loop td but NOOO, bykski had to send me the wrong block

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But all I really touched in MPT was my PL iirc

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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Yea, I'd be pissed lol

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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I got a Gigabyte 6950xt Gaming OC block

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…I wonder if by some miracle it would fit

digital wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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But at least now you know the block will work for sure

languid gale Jun 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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Lol yeah

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 1:15 AM

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My block after sanding round 2

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This was the first round of sanding

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Less flat but more shiney but I care more about flatness

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 2:40 AM

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YOOO LETS GOO, THE FLT360 FITS

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Now the fill port will be a PAIN to get to, but it fits

azure crown Jun 2, 2023, 2:41 AM

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build once, regret later

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 2:42 AM

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Now try with the motherboard in

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And RAM

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 2:43 AM

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It fits

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Don’t think I’ll be able to pull off a push pull 420 with it though

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Actually maybe? It’ll be a bit of a squeeze

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Main issue is the fill port being blocked by a rad

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 2:44 AM

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DIY fill port time?

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 2:45 AM

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Possibly

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I have a 240mm version of it coming in soon so I’ll see which one will look better

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Because so far the 360 looks CLEAN

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Also I’m guessing the Corsair cpu blocks are bad?

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 2:48 AM

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Meh

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 2:48 AM

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I think I’ll just route a piece of soft tubing that I’ll have hidden away as a fill port

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 2:48 AM

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Too expensive for average perf

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 2:49 AM

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I love the way the Optimus blocks look but lead times are 4 weeks for them

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And I can’t have my PC down for that long waiting for a block

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:29 AM

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@digital wedge does TechN make a LGA1700 block?

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Newest one I see is LGA1200

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:33 AM

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languid gale <@1106596715097751613> does TechN make a LGA1700 block?

Not yet unfortunately

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Which kinda sucks

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Cause rn they are just the best performers

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Even Optimus falls behind them

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:37 AM

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I wanted a heatkiller block personally but they're hard to find for AM4 now...

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:38 AM

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Use the techN Speedrun strat lol

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But unironically ist a pretty nice small company

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Kinda cool that they have such good performance

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:39 AM

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That's all you really need to succeed in the end. Name recognition is one thing but if you make a genuinely good product, people will notice.

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:40 AM

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They just need to send more review samples out tbh

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Cause their main review is from igors lab

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But it showed them kinda destroying every block

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:43 AM

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I guess heatkiller IV it is then ssadge

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:43 AM

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Based

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Ngl, I wish Optimus made more GPU blocks

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:45 AM

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knotty sparrow I wanted a heatkiller block personally but they're hard to find for AM4 now...

Found one for AM4 on Amazon for $150

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:45 AM

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Which one because not all of them were good. I specifically was looking for a full copper one.

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:46 AM

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knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Yeah that was one of the ones I would pass on, all nickel plated and I'm not a huge fan of the acetyl either.

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:47 AM

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So nickel plated I should pass on?

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:47 AM

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Nah this is just my personal opinion, it's usually fine

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:47 AM

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Ahh ok

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Bruh I can’t find a LGA1700 block in stock anywhere

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At this rate it’s looking like I’ll be buying that velocity2 block

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:48 AM

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These had some of the absolute best performance out of all AM4 blocks https://shop.watercool.de/HEATKILLERZ-IV-PRO-AMD-AM4-AM5-PURE-COPPER

Watercool Heatkiller IV high-end waterblock pure copper, 99,95 €

Watercool Heatkiller IV water blocks "Made in Germany" for current intel CPUs are among the most powerful water blocks that we ever created.

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:48 AM

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languid gale At this rate it’s looking like I’ll be buying that velocity2 block

Tbh, I'd turn to bykski first

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:49 AM

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I guess they adapted the design to fit AM5 too so they fit both, so yay there's more

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:49 AM

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digital wedge Tbh, I'd turn to bykski first

After them sending me the wrong gpu block, I’m trying to avoid them

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They also don’t make a LGA1700 block iirc

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:50 AM

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Dang, lga 1700 really is more option dry than I thought it was rn

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 3:51 AM

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So I’m basically stuck with EK, cheap aliexpress options, or wait a month for an Optimus block

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Or wait for the HK4 to go back in stock

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 3:52 AM

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knotty sparrow These had some of the absolute best performance out of all AM4 blocks https://sh...

Yea, I think they beat Optimus even. Only techN beat them in igors test and not by some massive margin. Heatkiller CPU blocks are mega based

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They also beat the magnitude

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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Ok so it looks like the heatkiller I want is only in stock in Germany where they're made so it'll be some time before the adapted AM4/AM5 design is readily available. Good, I'm not ready to buy yet anyway.

rotund sable Jun 2, 2023, 5:10 AM

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optimus > HK

magic sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 5:13 AM

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languid gale After them sending me the wrong gpu block, I’m trying to avoid them

Every company will make a mistake regardless if it's trash or the best in the world. That seems like an unideal reason for avoid a company IMO.

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 5:34 AM

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If someone is averse to a company I'll just go with it. People can be petty. "I had a MSI board die after 6 months 10 years ago so now I don't touch their products"

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sigh Ok dude I'll pick another then (is how that usually goes)

marsh badge Jun 2, 2023, 5:57 AM

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lol

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I get tired of these people sometimes

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 10:46 AM

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magic sparrow Every company will make a mistake regardless if it's trash or the best in the wo...

Yeah I know, I just don’t feel like risking another chance of sending a wrong item again putting the build on delay for another week

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And either way, they don’t make Lga1700 blocks

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 10:55 AM

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languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 12:53 PM

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Is it viable to use the drain port of a loop also as fill port if you flip the PC upside to fill it?

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 1:16 PM

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It depends on the reservoir

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But even with the right res you won't be able to drain it completely that way

lone orchid Jun 2, 2023, 4:13 PM

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does anyone know if i can use a cpu_opt port or cpu_fan port as a case fan port substitute because my motherboard only has 3 sys_fan slots

topaz blaze Jun 2, 2023, 4:33 PM

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is it ever a good idea to reuse a cooler from an old pc

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say, a prebuilt that doesn't really work well anymore

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well temporarily anyway

marsh badge Jun 2, 2023, 4:35 PM

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Depends on its design and brackets

topaz blaze Jun 2, 2023, 4:40 PM

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mm okay

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I was planning on making an attempt to wait on the money for my new cooler by putting an old on over the cpu

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it's one used for an Intel CPU though

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just can't post image

hazy crown Jun 2, 2023, 5:47 PM

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For a Lian li o11d white mid atx, how should I have the intake and exhaust setup?

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I will be using a aio cooler

low pumice Jun 2, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Aio top mounted as exhaust, side and bottom as intake

hazy crown Jun 2, 2023, 6:08 PM

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Ok, how bout for the rear?

low pumice Jun 2, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Exhaust

hazy crown Jun 2, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Ok thx

harsh crow Jun 2, 2023, 7:43 PM

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digital wedge

Did you make this one?

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Looks amazing.

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 8:21 PM

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harsh crow Did you make this one?

Yep

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That's my girlfriends PC

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Also thanks 🙏

harsh crow Jun 2, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Is that a custom GTX 1080 ti?

twin ivy Jun 2, 2023, 9:01 PM

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digital wedge

Big ass radiator

digital wedge Jun 2, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Ironically I think other than my 240mm it's worse than each one in my case kek

knotty sparrow Jun 2, 2023, 9:16 PM

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lone orchid does anyone know if i can use a cpu_opt port or cpu_fan port as a case fan port ...

CPU_FAN should be used for, well, the CPU fan, but the OPT one you can use. It'll be set to the same speed as the main CPU fan header, but you can change that on some boards.

languid gale Jun 2, 2023, 10:38 PM

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Change of plans, no more bottom 360rad, won’t fit

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FLT360 going on the bottom

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 2:05 AM

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Some cool radiator pics I took in the past

dreamy locust Jun 3, 2023, 8:14 AM

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New thermalright fans lookin fresh

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Desk setup PepeRealizes

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Very silent

frank plover Jun 3, 2023, 1:27 PM

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dreamy locust New thermalright fans lookin fresh

u sure that this is enough fans? i would say no

dreamy locust Jun 3, 2023, 1:27 PM

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Never enough

frank plover Jun 3, 2023, 1:28 PM

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true, i actually added fans to my Be Quiet Dark Base 700

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the Case

frank plover Jun 3, 2023, 1:29 PM

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dreamy locust Never enough

do you think the Fractal Design Focus G is Good? because it stands in my room in it's box (unopened still for now) is good?

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well, i heard that the USB Ports have problems

shrewd juniper Jun 3, 2023, 2:40 PM

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It's fine, but poor to build in from what I've heard, there's definitely better options for the price these days

low pumice Jun 3, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Focus g is just kinda bad in all regards imo, if you have another option, use the other option.

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Airflow isn't that good with the thicc front filter, fan mounting is weird, there's no room in the back for cable management with any braided cables, not a lot of room to build with in general in the main chamber, etc

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 6:23 PM

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@digital wedge Do I use the stock back plate for the Bykski 6900xt water block or does it come with one?

frank plover Jun 3, 2023, 7:12 PM

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low pumice Focus g is just kinda bad in all regards imo, if you have another option, use th...

well, it stands in my Room already...

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but not yet opened at all, it got Sent here and i haven't opened any of the Cartons

low pumice Jun 3, 2023, 7:12 PM

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If you can try to resell it, I'd do it, if your budget doesn't allow for anything nicer, it's a case

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I hate mine

frank plover Jun 3, 2023, 7:13 PM

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low pumice If you can try to resell it, I'd do it, if your budget doesn't allow for anythin...

well, it was planned to be used to replace my current case.

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 8:12 PM

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languid gale <@1106596715097751613> Do I use the stock back plate for the Bykski 6900xt water...

Pretty rare for stock backplate to work. Screw sizes are different, so are backplate sizes cuz no extended heatsink.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 8:43 PM

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languid gale <@1106596715097751613> Do I use the stock back plate for the Bykski 6900xt water...

You mean backplate?

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It comes with one

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 8:47 PM

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digital wedge It comes with one

Lots of options on Ali don't come with one.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 8:54 PM

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magic sparrow Lots of options on Ali don't come with one.

I own the block he's talking about lol

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We have the same card

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It's a really beefy back plate too

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Lot of thermal mass

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Kinda crazy how well made bykski blocks have gotten in recent years

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@languid gale heres a pic of it

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:29 PM

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digital wedge I own the block he's talking about lol

Yes, and that doesn't mean it'll always come with a backplate. On Ali there are many listings of cards without backplates despite a specific backplate existing for that block (that, or options in the listing to not have a backplate for slightly cheaper price). I have two (three, but one BNIB to sell) 3090TUF blocks, one with and one without a backplate.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:32 PM

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What?

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No

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This sounds like it was written by someone who hasn't used AliExpress and has it viewed like some boogey man of scams

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It basically like amazon

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It's not some magic lawless land where it's rng what you get

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Bruh, literally just search up listings on Ali. It straight up will say "yes/no backplate". Its not a scam, its an option (sometimes split up as different listings, sometimes same listing with options).

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Some boards might have optional add on backplates yea

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This isn't one of them

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Sometimes it also is RNG too lol. The kits I got were RNG based.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:36 PM

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It really isn't

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Can't say that when I have literally gotten RNG experience from kits. But kits are a different type of thing cuz you don't get info on specific block serial number (thus no clue if you get plate).

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Regardless, just cuz someone bought the same block doesn't mean they also have a backplate, unless you know they bought the exact same listing as you.

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Was my actual point.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:38 PM

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Could you give more details cause it really sounds like you haven't used AliExpress from the previous comment

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Also sounds like you haven't used bykski. They have pretty generic designs gen to gen and the design for that block and similar requires a backplate

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They don't have a no backplate option

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:41 PM

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Kits don't come with defined GPU blocks. You give a PCB design and they pick whatever works. Unless you specify what you want, you don't get any guarantee of backplates.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:42 PM

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4 screws are directly mounted to the board but the rest are partially ribbed and run through a plate to add mounting pressure

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:42 PM

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magic sparrow Kits don't come with defined GPU blocks. You give a PCB design and they pick wha...

What? He didn't get a water-cooling kit

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He got a GPU block for the 6900xt ocf

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:44 PM

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You said stuff wasn't RNG, I made a counterpoint that RNG is possible in certain ways. Regardless, you still missed my point that listings have options for choosing whether you want a backplate or not.

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Sometimes those options are literally split into separate listings.

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Buy certain listing from a certain seller that has no options but specifies "no passive backplate", you get no passive backplate. Even if a backplate exists for that GPU model.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:48 PM

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Again

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It's not optional

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I own the block

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I shopped for it

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I know what listings there are

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Lol

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I also used it

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I know it requires the plate with both the way packaging and mounting is designed

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 9:55 PM

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….I didn’t buy my block from Ali

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I bought it straight from Bykski

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 9:56 PM

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To answer your question it comes with a backplate

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Lol

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You're gonna mount it with 4 spring screws that are around the GPU die and the rest will go through the actual backplate to add mounting pressure

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@languid gale what paste are you using btw

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 9:59 PM

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digital wedge I know what listings there are

You do?

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Yes its unavailable, but a listing still exists regardless.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:00 PM

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I don't think it was ever available lol

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Cause they aren't going to buy new mounting screws and standoffs and make new packaging just to not include it

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And he didn't even use AliExpress

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 10:02 PM

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There are also a few listings where you may have to buy the backplate separately. Few listings seem a bit whack. So try not to blanket statement "lol that doesn't exist, do you even use Ali".

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Dude

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Stop

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You're arguing to argue

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It comes with a backplate and it's that simple

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 10:04 PM

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No, I'm telling you to not be so quick to judge.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:06 PM

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?

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I literally own the part being discussed

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:07 PM

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Has anyone tried or seen someone use a vertical mount on a GPU inside the tower 900?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:07 PM

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You assumed he bought it from Ali and assumed Ali is sketch and seemingly assumed bykski is some half scam inconsistent company and you're telling me not to be quick to judge...

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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digital wedge <@480883524203839508> what paste are you using btw

Im deciding between KPX or MX4

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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Kpx for sure

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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Is it fine to daily?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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Yea

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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Okay

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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It's a great past to work with too

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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I used the thermal grizzly stuff that came with my monoblock on the CPU so I hope that’s fine

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Is there any issues with using liquid metal on a copper water block or AIO block?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Thermal grizzly stuff is too overpriced imo

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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If it’s nickel plated then I think it’s fine

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LM on bare copper, no go I’m pretty sure

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:09 PM

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digital wedge Thermal grizzly stuff is too overpriced imo

It came with my monoblock so not a big deal

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:10 PM

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It's nickel

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Also is it true that all fans on the rads should be either exhaust or intake?

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:10 PM

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languid gale LM on bare copper, no go I’m pretty sure

What happens if it's contacting bare copper?

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Not a mix of both

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:10 PM

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languid gale Also is it true that all fans on the rads should be either exhaust or intake?

No.

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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languid gale Also is it true that all fans on the rads should be either exhaust or intake?

All should be intake ideally

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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digital wedge All should be intake ideally

Okay thanks

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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You can do push pull which is a mix.

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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harsh crow You can do push pull which is a mix.

That’s not what I meant

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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harsh crow What happens if it's contacting bare copper?

It stains

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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Is that corrosion?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:11 PM

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Not exactly

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Yeah

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:12 PM

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languid gale That’s not what I meant

Oh my bad. Thought you were talking about push vs pull configs.

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:12 PM

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On that IHS at least it is

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:14 PM

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From what I understand it's basically gallium plating the copper

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Kinda like how you nickel plate but without a fluid between them

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Because the difference in charge

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Is the staining bad?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Not really

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But looks ugly

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Gotcha. Wanted to know for the future build since I plan to use a open loop and liquid metal.

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So I should make sure the CPU block is nickle plated.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:37 PM

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harsh crow So I should make sure the CPU block is nickle plated.

It's not a big deal if it isn't

magic sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 10:38 PM

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digital wedge You assumed he bought it from Ali and assumed Ali is sketch and seemingly assume...

Yeah. Idk how to tell you this in a simpler way. Look up the definition of options. Look at every single message I've sent. Notice how each one says OPTIONS.

Now I'll say this again, options exist, and some sellers give the customer options. In the case of the A-RX6900XT-X it's pretty rare and questionably nonexistent. I've never hinted at scams. Idk why you seem to think I have. So yes, you are quick to judge as you don't read what others say and assume some really bad case scenario. So just please read what others have to say and not assume the worst. Its all I ask.

rotund sable Jun 3, 2023, 10:39 PM

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languid gale

Is this your chip

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:40 PM

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rotund sable Is this your chip

Hell no

rotund sable Jun 3, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Oh

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I was gonna say I approve if it was

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Lga2066 is cool

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Dude, just drop it

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Seriously

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Convo passed a long time ago

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And he already got his answer

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@harsh crow what liquid metal are you using btw?

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 10:48 PM

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If by a long time you mean 30 minutes sure. All he did was ask a question.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:48 PM

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Or are you still deciding

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If you haven't decided yet cool laboratory tends to be pretty good value

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Or silver king

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Nice places to start looking

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:55 PM

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digital wedge <@217356391675985921> what liquid metal are you using btw?

Not using any.

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Not at the moment at least.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:55 PM

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Another good investment is conformal coating if you go liquid metal

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And kapton tape is another good thing to use

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Or clear nail Polish

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:56 PM

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I am a long term planner so I am trying to learn as much as I can about open loops and cooling solutions and such for when I do my dream build in around 8-12 months come RTX 5000 series and Ryzen 8000 series.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:56 PM

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languid gale Or clear nail Polish

That too

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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languid gale Or clear nail Polish

Huh????

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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But some use oxides that can be conductive

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And I think there is a specific base that's conductive that some use

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So requires some research into ingredients

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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harsh crow Huh????

To keep the LM from going where it shouldn’t

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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Been awhile since I looked into which you need to avoid

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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Oh okay.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 10:58 PM

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But yea, with some research nail polish can be a cheap conformal coat

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 10:58 PM

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So nail polish or kapton tape is your recommendations for wrapping around the CPU so the LM doesn't touch the board correct?

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:02 PM

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harsh crow I am a long term planner so I am trying to learn as much as I can about open loo...

If you're planning for long term don't do liquid metal. You need to change it every 6 months or so or else it both dries out, becoming less effective, and can start bonding your CPU to the cooler permanently.

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A good paste will last a few years, and there's some really cool stuff coming like the graphite pads that get nearly as good performance as liquid metal but never have to be changed.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:05 PM

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knotty sparrow If you're planning for long term don't do liquid metal. You need to change it ev...

I think you got that backwards

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Liquid metal doesn't dry cause it's not based on an oil or water base

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I think gn and der8aur made some cool videos on this too so it's not just in theory but in practice too

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:06 PM

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knotty sparrow A good paste will last a few years, and there's some really cool stuff coming li...

Graphite or graphene?

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:06 PM

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It doesn't "dry" in a traditional sense sure but it does harden as it reacts with the surrounding metals

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:07 PM

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harsh crow Graphite or graphene?

graphene mb

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:07 PM

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knotty sparrow It doesn't "dry" in a traditional sense sure but it does harden as it reacts wit...

It wont

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It will form a base coat around the copper

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But then it's only contacting itself

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:07 PM

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knotty sparrow graphene mb

Okay that makes a lot more sense.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:07 PM

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So no charge difference

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Gn made a video testing this too

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So it's not just in theory

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In practice liquid metal doesn't change over time in performance

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Although after enough applications if you keep reusing it you will eventually run out of have some become oxide if exposed to oxygen long term

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But on the die or heat spreader it won't be contacting oxygen

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:09 PM

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So LM works long term but if used on bare copper will form a coating that could fuse the CPU to the waterblock?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:09 PM

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https://youtu.be/fnbovjT4JLQ

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digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:09 PM

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harsh crow So LM works long term but if used on bare copper will form a coating that could ...

Won't fuse

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Will more just stain it

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Got it.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Because the charge difference

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:10 PM

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The stain can be fixed with a bit of lapping?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:10 PM

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And just for a kinda thin layer

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Yep

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It's a pain to get out though

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:10 PM

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..... I know true sanding pain.

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I sanded a sapphire for a whole day straight.

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Same for emeralds.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:11 PM

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knotty sparrow A good paste will last a few years, and there's some really cool stuff coming li...

I think thermal grizzly showed off a metal mixed graphene pad that performed like a paste

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:11 PM

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What do you mean by get out exactly?

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Like takes a long time to sand down?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:12 PM

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Sanded a techN block flat and it took a whole day lol

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Got it flat enough to squeegee the glass I sanded it over with

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:12 PM

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digital wedge I think thermal grizzly showed off a metal mixed graphene pad that performed lik...

Although tbh I prefer working with liquid metal over graphene pads

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Graphene pads in my experience are too fragile and light and a huge pain to get in place

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Ok so the case I saw of the cooler bonding to the CPU was caused by someone that didn't do their research and used an aluminum air cooler. So it chewed right through the aluminum.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Yea, with aluminum it will react violently lol

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Before and after image of a gem I sanded down a while back took me a day and a half.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:13 PM

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But besides that liquid metal will basically last the life of your system and then some

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:14 PM

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harsh crow Before and after image of a gem I sanded down a while back took me a day and a h...

Nice!

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:14 PM

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I couldn't feel my arm afterwards lmao.

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:14 PM

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digital wedge Nice!

Thanks.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:15 PM

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harsh crow I couldn't feel my arm afterwards lmao.

I completely get the pain lmfao

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:15 PM

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Never try to shape a emerald or sapphire through hand sanding. Learned that the hard way.

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Took me 3 days just to purge like a quarter inch out of a emerald.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:16 PM

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I've been thinking of making a sanding belt

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:16 PM

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You'd need diamond sandpaper to make that less of a pain

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:16 PM

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Maybe making a conveyor belt and having the center run over a piece of glass for leveling

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:17 PM

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knotty sparrow You'd need diamond sandpaper to make that less of a pain

For hand sanding?

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:17 PM

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In general but yeah

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:17 PM

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That's what I had.....

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:17 PM

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Really? Sheesh it mush have needed more rough diamond on it then

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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knotty sparrow Really? Sheesh it mush have needed more rough diamond on it then

I used grits ranging from 80-150-400-800

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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harsh crow I used grits ranging from 80-150-400-800

By "more rough diamond" I mean "more diamond"

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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Oh okay.

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Thought you meant the grit.

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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I can see that being confusing lol

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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digital wedge

Is this after lapping?

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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Rough diamond as in uncut

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:18 PM

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harsh crow Is this after lapping?

Yep

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:19 PM

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Looks great.

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:19 PM

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Went for flatness instead of shine

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First go I went for shine but got it less flat

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harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:19 PM

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How do you test for how flat it is?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:20 PM

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If I can squeegee glass with it without air or water getting through or any scratching then it's flat enough lol

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Squeegee?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Like clean water off without it getting under

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:21 PM

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So you press it against glass and put water on the glass?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Yep

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Same glass I sand it over lol

harsh crow Jun 3, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Gotcha.

knotty sparrow Jun 3, 2023, 11:22 PM

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It's also pretty obvious how flat it is from a quick light reflection test

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:22 PM

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First run it was slightly indented in the center

rotund sable Jun 3, 2023, 11:37 PM

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@digital wedge whats your lapping process

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:38 PM

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I usually go from 80 to 240 to 500 to 800 to 1000 to 1200 to a slight run at 1400 then 2000 then 3000

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 11:44 PM

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This bend look okay?

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:50 PM

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Yea

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 11:51 PM

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Let’s gooo, first bend ever

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:52 PM

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I completely ruined my first ever bend lol

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So super based and natural skill pilled there

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Yo

twin ivy Jun 3, 2023, 11:53 PM

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He's just better

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:53 PM

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I see some hw labs rads in the back

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Based

twin ivy Jun 3, 2023, 11:53 PM

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twin ivy He's just better

Don't doubt my boy lmaoo

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 11:54 PM

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twin ivy Don't doubt my boy lmaoo

If only he saw my sketchy tools

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I’m using this to tighten the fittings down

digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:54 PM

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My tools are mega diy and stitch ngl

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 11:54 PM

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Couldn’t find a 9mm Allen key so I’m using the Chuck of a circle saw

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digital wedge Jun 3, 2023, 11:54 PM

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Lol

languid gale Jun 3, 2023, 11:59 PM

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BRUHHHH

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I was cutting the tube and it cracked

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Am I not supposed to use a pipe cutter?

knotty sparrow Jun 4, 2023, 12:02 AM

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Acrylic?

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Those acrylic tubes shatter easily

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There's special cutters for them

languid gale Jun 4, 2023, 12:09 AM

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Could you link one?

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Actually nvm, I’ll just use a band saw

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Did a few tests and it works fine

languid gale Jun 4, 2023, 12:59 AM

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I’m way too proud of this

digital wedge Jun 4, 2023, 1:09 AM

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Nah

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Triple bend is something to be proud of

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Especially if it's your first hard loop

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I even avoid them

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And I've done too many loops lol

languid gale Jun 4, 2023, 1:21 AM

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I just went over it with a level and it’s basically perfect

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Only maybe a degree or two off

sweet lodge Jun 4, 2023, 5:35 AM

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lm fuses to copper

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check my banner, 9920x sanded flat after like 3 months of LM

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makes an alloy

languid gale Jun 4, 2023, 4:35 PM

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A band saw works way too well for acrylic tubing

languid gale Jun 5, 2023, 11:19 PM

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@digital wedge could you talk me through installing this water block? No instructions were given and can’t find anything online

supple harbor Jun 5, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Is there a fan that doesn’t quite reach noctua/t30 pricing but better than the p12?

digital wedge Jun 5, 2023, 11:58 PM

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languid gale <@1106596715097751613> could you talk me through installing this water block? No...

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You will also want pads behind GPU core and vrms and memory

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Mainly just memory and fire I'd say are necessary though

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And on the chokes for some reason it has pads

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:00 AM

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What thickness pads for the back?

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I think 3mm should be fine for the back of VRMs and memory?

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:10 AM

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1.4mm but others should compress

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1.0 is fine I found too

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1.0 and up basically

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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So on the back where should I put them?

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I get back of vram but where else?

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Nm, it uses 1.2 stock

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But 1.0 works

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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languid gale I get back of vram but where else?

Back of core

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And if you want behind vrm too

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:27 AM

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How important is VRM?

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Because I kinda ran out of pads

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Unless I want to use the ones that came with the block

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:28 AM

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languid gale How important is VRM?

Not very

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Tbh, for vrm use the ones that came with it only

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:28 AM

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It's only important when you get into higher power draw scenarios

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:29 AM

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knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:29 AM

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The stock ones are fine yeah

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:29 AM

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Should I also put it on the top of the black rectangles? ~~definitely didn’t forget what they’re called~~

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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Did you put a pad on the MLCC caps? lol

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(reverse side of the core)

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Those don't get hot. Like, at all.

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Unless you got an active backplate and are trying to sink some extra heat away from the core. A passive backplate won't do that effectively.

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:34 AM

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knotty sparrow Unless you got an active backplate and are trying to sink some extra heat away f...

Meh, it's got a lot of thermal mass

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It's like 6 backplates in one

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:35 AM

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Still, it needs a way to dissipate that heat once it saturates

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:35 AM

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Probably doesn't do a ton but it definitely soaks some heat from the back

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:35 AM

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knotty sparrow Still, it needs a way to dissipate that heat once it saturates

Just passive airflow from the case will do enough

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:35 AM

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What GPU is this anyway

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:35 AM

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It's got a decent bit of surface area still on top of that thermal mass

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6950xt ocf

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Oh yeah that'll be fine

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:36 AM

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I set all the 6950xt firestrike records with the same GPU and block he has rn lol

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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Also, how do I screw this backplate on?

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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@languid gale if you want I also put some over the connectors of the power pins

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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The screws that came with the block are no where close to long enough

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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Just cause at 800w+ power draw they can get hot lol

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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languid gale The screws that came with the block are no where close to long enough

Which ones?

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The spring ones you need to push in while twisting

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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I have the main block attached using the spring ones

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I mean the non spring ones

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Oh

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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They don’t even go through the backplate

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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You need to use 4 spring screws

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Around the core

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Yeah I did

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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The rest will be the longer ones

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And they will go through the backplate

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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These are no where close to getting through the back plate

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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If they can't touch just use the stock pads on the back

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The washers you won't need

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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It should have some long screws?

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 12:40 AM

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I’m blind, they were in a different bag

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:13 AM

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languid gale

Oh no

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the mans finnaly doing it

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:14 AM

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The build is being put on hold again till Wednesday until my SSDs come in LOL

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:14 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

Tenor

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:14 AM

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Just bought 3 2TB Acer Predator GM7000s

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:15 AM

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bruh

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:15 AM

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I got 5 M.2 slots in the mobo, imma use 5 M.2 slots

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:15 AM

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7400MB/s

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:15 AM

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languid gale I got 5 M.2 slots in the mobo, imma use 5 M.2 slots

I have two cause I didnt buy x570

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:16 AM

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My X570 also only had 2 M.2s iirc

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:17 AM

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Oh idk

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:23 AM

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GPU is in

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Looking gooood

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 1:24 AM

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languid gale GPU is in

Too based

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And the psu I wish I had lol

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 1:25 AM

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Lol it’s a great PSU

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Had an HX750 before it

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4 bends in one tube? How badly can I screw this up kekAnimated

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Rn I have gf1 850w but I hit opp on firestrike ultra with my firestrike profile

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:10 AM

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twin ivy I have two cause I didnt buy x570

My X570 also only has 2

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:12 AM

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knotty sparrow My X570 also only has 2

I thought they had more lol

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Guess not

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:13 AM

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They CAN have more

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But B550 can also have 4

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Proof

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MEG Unify B550 has 4

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And the Unify-X X570S Max has 5

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twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:16 AM

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Hmm

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wish my Strix b550f had more but its whatever

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I can always just buy sata ssds that are what a couple seconds slower in game lmao

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:17 AM

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Not even that much lol

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It's like 0.2 seconds

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:18 AM

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loll

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:19 AM

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Open world games could take a full 2 seconds longer to load though, this was a more extreme example

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/1114702257930375191/image.png

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Proof u dont need gen 4 for games lol

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:20 AM

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100%

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It actually loaded SLOWER lol

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Ended up being slower lolll

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YEAH

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:21 AM

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Technically margin of error but still kekw

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 3:21 AM

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Im sure that will change tho if u ran the test a few times

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STOP TYPING FASTER THAN ME LMAO

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 3:22 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

Tenor

when friends ask me to leave the house

▶ Play video

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 4:55 AM

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knotty sparrow It actually loaded SLOWER lol

Did they say what ssd's they used

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 4:55 AM

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Yeah they did, hang on I'll bring up the vid

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SSD M.2 PCIe 3.0 - Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB
SSD SATA3 - Samsung 860 Evo-Series 1TB
SSD M.2 PCIe 4.0 - Gigabyte Aorus NVMe Gen4 SSD 1TB

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https://youtu.be/4YoRKQy-UO4

YouTube

Testing Games

SSD NVMe PCIe 4.0 vs SSD NVMe PCIe 3.0 vs SSD SATA III Loading Wind...

SSD M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 vs SSD M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 vs SSD SATA III Win10 / Game Loading Times

Buy computer hardware at newegg.com - https://bit.ly/2Bvz3AN

Games :
Windows 10 - 0:00
Assassin's Creed Odyssey - 0:23
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 1:04
Forza Horizon 4 - 1:54
Battlefield V - 2:18
Jedi : Fallen Order - 2:46

All 3 SSDs were almost completely ...

▶ Play video

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A bit dated but still very relevant

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And this is on a Ryzen 3600 with 3600 MT/s memory

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A more normal result compared to open world

marsh badge Jun 6, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Sata is still pretty fast indeed

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 5:06 AM

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pepehmmm

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 9:43 PM

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Anyone got any idea if these are any good? https://www.bykski.us/products/granzon-g-1-4in-male-to-female-multi-directional-free-rotary-elbow-fitting-gd-x?variant=39424798589026

BYKSKI.US

Granzon G 1/4in. Male to Female Multi Directional Free Rotary Elbow...

The Granzon G 1/4in. Male to Female Multi Directional Free Rotary Elbow Fitting is a 360 degree swivel solution for trying to change direction quickly within your loop. This rotary elbow can be positioned up to 41 degrees away from center in any direction. Specifications Thread: G 1/4 Compatibility Loop: Non-Aluminum I

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They might be my only way to make an easy connection between my pump and rad

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digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:24 PM

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languid gale Anyone got any idea if these are any good? https://www.bykski.us/products/granzo...

They are bykski's premium line and their normal fittings are already usually the best you can get so probably good

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Like unironically bykski fittings smoke bitspower

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Which is funny asf cause usually they are good value but not unironically any price endgame

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:28 PM

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I just took a PSU fan out of a now dead PSU. The fan is extremely and I have no wipes or compressed air canisters to clean it properly with. What would I do in this scenario?

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Just shove it on the side of the sink where it's not being dunked entirely in water but use the spray hose to get the blades? (joking obviously)

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I assume you mean extremely dirty

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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yeah...

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Paper towels

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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Ngl, I've washed some fans with water

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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Don't get the fan too wet around the motor but it can get pretty wet

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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Mainly ball bearing server fans

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:30 PM

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I asked because I already hung it beside a sink and hosed just the edges which helped a lot lol

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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That's fine, you can use a wet paper towel for the rest

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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kinda got inside which would possibly get the bearings a little bit funny but meh

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it's not a main fan

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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Give it extra time to dry then if water got in there

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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I already have two

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yeah I have a while

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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digital wedge They are bykski's premium line and their normal fittings are already usually the...

Imma just do some jank stuff with a bunch of fittings

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Cheaper and I don’t have to wait for shipping

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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I know that J can move the back case fan on my pc and use this as a third fan but it would have no speed control lol

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Would it be worth replacing my PSU fan with a P12?

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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languid gale Imma just do some jank stuff with a bunch of fittings

If I decide to go hard tubing I'll probably avoid bends and just use fittings to do all my turns lol

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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languid gale Would it be worth replacing my PSU fan with a P12?

No

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:32 PM

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topaz blaze I know that J can move the back case fan on my pc and use this as a third fan bu...

meh noise isn't a bad concern
I can still sleep

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Especially cause I think cxm has a good fan

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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plus it's in the back so meh

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Also p12 aren't great

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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languid gale Would it be worth replacing my PSU fan with a P12?

Do not open your PSU, there are parts in there that can kill you

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Especially not for psu fans

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They are great static pressure value fans

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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languid gale Anyone got any idea if these are any good? https://www.bykski.us/products/granzo...

Those sound amazing

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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knotty sparrow Do not open your PSU, there are parts in there that can kill you

I work with a lot higher voltages than a PSU on the daily, I know what I’m doing

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Psus need less pressure focused long lifespan fans

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Like ball bearing fans

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:33 PM

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I also work and build vacuum tube amplifiers fairly enough to know what to do and what not to do

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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languid gale I also work and build vacuum tube amplifiers fairly enough to know what to do an...

Based

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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I only opened my PSU for these
Thing's dead, but I'm still reusing parts instead of trashing it. The rest will be recycled in some form as well.

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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I used to repair my own amps and energizers

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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languid gale I work with a lot higher voltages than a PSU on the daily, I know what I’m doing

That's not the issue at hand. Also there's no guarantee the fan uses a standard 4 pin header.

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Shocked myself on an e90 once

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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RMx stock fan stays in

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Stung a bit

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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RMx fan is already fantastic

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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digital wedge Stung a bit

That would do it

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Not enough current to kill though lol

topaz blaze Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Also, got a new CPU cooler. The PSU isn't in since I don't have a working one and the GPU isn't because I'm putting that in when everything's good

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Great thing about energizers

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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I got a bit of a scar from zapping myself with a 750V 1A line lmao

digital wedge Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Usually almost no current

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Good times

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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knotty sparrow Do not open your PSU, there are parts in there that can kill you

Me opening a 750w corsair unit at 12 to steal the fan

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:35 PM

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My job rn I’m working with around 2-3000V at ~5mA

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Testing Geiger counters and ionization chambers is fun

knotty sparrow Jun 6, 2023, 11:36 PM

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twin ivy Me opening a 750w corsair unit at 12 to steal the fan

If you do make sure it's been unplugged for at least 6 months, the bulk caps hold power for a LONG time

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:36 PM

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pepe_feelskek2

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:36 PM

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knotty sparrow If you do make sure it's been unplugged for at least 6 months, the bulk caps hol...

Yeah

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:37 PM

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knotty sparrow If you do make sure it's been unplugged for at least 6 months, the bulk caps hol...

Or you make a sketchy discharging tool, 2 100k resistors attached to a banana plug in a bic pen housing

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Then attach the other end of that to an alligator clip and you’re good to go

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:37 PM

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languid gale Testing Geiger counters and ionization chambers is fun

I tot u designed jewellery

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floosh

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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strange flume I tot u designed jewellery

Oh I also do LMAO

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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strange flume I tot u designed jewellery

He's a man of many trades

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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pepehmmm

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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Jewelry is just on the side

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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suspeepee

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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languid gale

This is beautiful

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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Nuclear engineering is my main career

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:38 PM

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strange flume <:suspeepee:675633200524951553>

He also robs convenience stores

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How do u think bros driving a benz at 19 smh

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Nah, I only kidnap 16 y/o kids in New Jersey named Daniel to throw into my basement and force them to pedal bikes to power my house

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:39 PM

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PepeRealizes

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Sus

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:39 PM

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languid gale Nah, I only kidnap 16 y/o kids in New Jersey named Daniel to throw into my basem...

rEaL

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16 year olds now

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U forgot to give me my extra ration a few days ago

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:40 PM

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twin ivy How do u think bros driving a benz at 19 smh

Bro ur buying 3080 Ti's at 13 idk where u think I draw the line with reality here 💀

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:41 PM

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strange flume Bro ur buying 3080 Ti's at 13 idk where u think I draw the line with reality her...

LOL

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13

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:41 PM

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But u are aren't u

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Happy birthday btw 🎈

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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strange flume But u are aren't u

Yeah, still looking for cheaper ones

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I actually have the money now

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But ebay and hwswap were kinda ass the other day

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ill check again

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Kids these days

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I used to ask for a video game for my b'day

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Wtf

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How did that become the cheap ass route

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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huh

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Gramps used to tell me they got clothes

languid gale Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Danny’s just spoiled smh

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Back in my day I got a stick for my birthday

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Danny sponsored by hugo boss

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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strange flume I used to ask for a video game for my b'day

This is money from my old gpu and from all of my family

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No shot I could get this much from just my mom lol

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Bro my birthday allowances never went over $100

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Like in total

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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ur also like

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ancient

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Wow

twin ivy Jun 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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LMAO

strange flume Jun 6, 2023, 11:44 PM

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kek

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Kids these days