old-cooling

[harsh crow]

Because no matter what, water will eventually heat up.

[strange flume]

For the TUF I can use an XOC vBIOS and throw 600W at it if I want now outside of benches and be technically fine but I wouldn't because I could hurt the VRM

[harsh crow]

So I shouldn't expect it to stay the same temp under load 24/7.

[harsh crow]

Got it.

[strange flume]

Meanwhile on that same card on air I could only bench near that

In cold ambient

Yeah this is really the only benefit, and I mean this to be taken seriously as the 3090 Ti's are way overpowered on air cooling

So you may even find it serves only the benefit of a quieter system if you go water in any way

[harsh crow]

Water has nicer aesthetic so why not + if I run a D5 pump at full speed in a 18c room I should get pretty good temps.

[strange flume]

I mean sure

You wouldn't need the D5 tho with the eiswolf and eisbaer

[harsh crow]

I mean on a custom loop.

But yea I wouldn't need one with the eiswolf.

Which by the way.

The eisbaer CPU AIO. Is it good?

I might get one if so.

[strange flume]

The eisbaer pro is good for lga 1700

i.e intel 12th gen/13th gen

[harsh crow]

Got it.

Which performs better? That or Arctic F2?

[strange flume]

I don't have LF2 but I would say they would be very close

My EK aio is relatively close to this one

[harsh crow]

Got it.

[strange flume]

But I mean this is a case of pump and coldplate being more essential than ever for LGA 1700 screwiness

[harsh crow]

Lemme check if they have a 420 aio.

Yep.

They do.

Is the Eisbear Aurora Pro better

?

[strange flume]

You'd be looking for this one specifically

[strange flume]

Yes

The rest are a

[harsh crow]

The waterblock loops dope.

Goes perfect with my Cyberpunk/Halo/Minecraft theme.

[strange flume]

You can use these parts in a real custom loop btw

[harsh crow]

Scifi and blocky.

[harsh crow]

Wait rlly?

[strange flume]

Ya it uses standard fittings lol

[harsh crow]

Sweet.

So I can make a semi-semi loop.

[strange flume]

???

Sure I guess lol

[noble quarry]

excuse me?

[harsh crow]

Does that mean I can use hard tubing for this?

[strange flume]

Hi felix here

I dun understand why the ping

[noble quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-24749838

[strange flume]

[strange flume]

Could but I wouldn't

[noble quarry]

just to say hello xD

[harsh crow]

?

I know it's harder to maintain

if that's the concern.

[strange flume]

Ya, not really worth it

If you're going to go that far you may as well just hard tube the lot

Hard tubing is completely an aesthetic benefit

[harsh crow]

I know.

Not functionality benefit.

[strange flume]

Personally I like the functionality of being able to take it apart if something's wrong with soft

Also considering draining and servicing it all every 6 months or so

(yes you need to do this on the alphacool stuff too)

[harsh crow]

I need to drain the Eisbear every 6 months and refill it?

Alright.

[strange flume]

Mhm

@noble quarry did you see my messages

I ping again

[harsh crow]

Wait, since the Eisbear uses standard fittings.

[strange flume]

[noble quarry]

yeah, read the whole lot of words

[strange flume]

I will check the riser later

[harsh crow]

Would I be able to use a transparent tube?

Also, would it be bad if I hooked up a D5 pump to the Eisbear?

[noble quarry]

would be nice

[strange flume]

Can if you really want to but you may as well use a different loop kit

[noble quarry]

i have my eyes on the tilt bracket

hopefully the cable is ok

[strange flume]

I would say yes because you already have a pump in the eisbaer

[harsh crow]

Is the pump/block on the Eisbear worse compared to say like a XC8 with a D5?

[strange flume]

It's definitely worse than a d5

It's not as good

[harsh crow]

Hmmmm.

[strange flume]

At that point I would go with another soft tube kit instead if you really want a D5 in the loop

[harsh crow]

Would it really cause any harm to have a D5 added to the system? because I'm kinda liking the sound of being able to use an AIO for now and turn it into a custom loop once I am back in China.

[strange flume]

As I said I plugged it in and it worked out of the box so I believe it's fine but I'll bench it to be sure

Hell I'll even send you mine if yours is ass

I have a few risers, don't need this many

[noble quarry]

so you collect risers now? xD

[harsh crow]

Not now but once I am back in China and decide to make my own case, what do you guys think of say a Skull with a Crown shape for a case?

[noble quarry]

you need to get back to china first

[harsh crow]

200mm intake at the bottom and 200mm exhaust at the top. With room for 2x480mm radiators on the side?

[strange flume]

I just think it's unnecessary

It's like

You've bought the ferrari and now you want a bugatti engine in it

[harsh crow]

While I am not in China when I have time I can start working on the model is the thing.

[strange flume]

[harsh crow]

Sounds nice.

Lmao.

[strange flume]

Ya but unnecessary

[harsh crow]

But just so I know, would it cause any harm?

Like I'd like to know just in case.

[noble quarry]

you have quite the coin to burn

[strange flume]

Ima leave the jury out on that one

[harsh crow]

Probably won't do it.

[strange flume]

I'm not a watercooling weggspert

[harsh crow]

But I'd like to know.

[strange flume]

[harsh crow]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-make-it-rain-dolla-dolla-bills-dollars-cash-gif-15485267

[strange flume]

I think Hay has already given some suggestions for loops

[noble quarry]

a lot in fact 😛

[strange flume]

Imo if you want a D5, then go with a proper soft tube loop

[noble quarry]

but our friend apex keep changing the scenario every day xD

[harsh crow]

I know, been keeping them in mind for a full custom loop.

[noble quarry]

my advice is to research into water cooling basics instead of brands and things like that

you can check prices and branding when you are ready to buy

[harsh crow]

I am just thinking until I am back in China the Eisbear might be handy as it's pre-setup for me so I can have a system running now without needing a to do the full loop yet.

[noble quarry]

because you know... tech prices... they are wild every day

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[strange flume]

Eh I wouldn't do that either

Either do one loop or the other

Don't mesh both

[noble quarry]

i repeat, stop thinking about brands, go and learn about the basics of water cooling, terms, formulas, kind of loops, types of materials... etc

[strange flume]

That's a lot of wasted dolla

[noble quarry]

brands are secondary rn

prices too

[strange flume]

Especially when I've said air cooling is strong as hell

[noble quarry]

you need to understand very well the custom loop world so the advices the guys give you will be fully understandable to you

[strange flume]

Oh boy

[noble quarry]

much like asking about the best brands or dies for memory oc but knowing nothing about memory oc

[strange flume]

Seriously this. You don't want to throw money around carelessly until you settle for your perfect

[noble quarry]

nor asking about every term at every line

you should research that yourself, that will give the guys an idea of your level of commitment

[harsh crow]

Understood.

[noble quarry]

tldr, forget about brands are prices, worry about that when you are ready to buy

that will be around 9 months when you are back to china

in 9 months many things can change

[strange flume]

The upside of this is you'll already know everything works before you make the loop which is a big plus

[noble quarry]

new pumps, new brands, etc, etc

maybe new materials? who knows

9 months is a long time on the tech world

[harsh crow]

My friend has a laptop and was wondering what laptop cooler you guys would recommend.

[strange flume]

none

use what's inside it

undervolt/power limit if it runs too hot or take the time to repaste it

if you mean cooling pad, I'm in the camp of a fold out laptop stand

like this
https://amzn.asia/d/gSR9GQT

[noble quarry]

yeah way better to undervolt/limit instead of buying those ufo helipads

[strange flume]

ufo 😂

[shrewd juniper]

I'd actually recommend a higher stand for ergonomic reasons although you'll want an external keyboard

[strange flume]

true

I like this one cos it packs away neatly tho

very mobile very smol

[woeful crest]

Has anyone used the ryujin 360 aio from asus? Was thinking about getting it but also thinking lian li Galahad because i want to put al 120 fans on the rad

[sacred wren]

Galahad is better

[uneven solstice]

Galahad is bae.

[strange flume]

• LS720 enters the chat *

[viscid vapor]

I noticed RGB fusion doesn't control the fan speeds, just the LED speeds. There something else that does?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah gigabyte app center has an add on (on support page for mobo) although i just use the bios

[unique lily]

Lord-Xanthor#0068 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[viscid vapor]

I didn't send duplicate message.

Bot, you messed up.

To sum up what mee6 deleted, I want to redirect the fans motor power, from the controller to the motherboards fan pins, so a remote isn't relied upon.

I couldn't do this with an earlier fan version, because the fans I was using, shared a common return, for both RGB and fan motor, and to high a risk of damaging the motherboard should a fan malfunction, as it would bypass the protection of the motherboard. I'm hoping the ones I now use, don't share a return or Im going to be stuck buying RGB I don't care for. The GIM ones I got , perfect effect

Check this out on @Newegg: COOLMOON RGB Case Fans, 3 Pack 120mm Quiet Computer Cooling PC Fans, Music Rhythm 5V ARGB Addressable Motherboard SYNC/RC Controller, Colorful Cooler Speed Adjustable with Fan Control Hub https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-00XW-00090?Item=9SIAHW7C1Y9869&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAHW7C1Y9869-_-09212022

What's so nice about these, they have LEDs built inside the fan base, and also in the fan itself. The color effects is basically unlimited with the right RGB program.

[viscid vapor]

They doubled in price. I purchased 30 sets of 3, as they didn't have them in 5 or 6 sets, and was $22 at the time.

[viscid vapor]

When I noticed both fan blade and base had LEDs, a feature at the time Corsair and Thermaltake didn't offer. It was either base, or blade, never both. Anyways, I just opened a broken one. Out of 90 fans, only two were bad, and looked to be a screw issue, but now that I fully opened one up, saw it was a glue problem. Oil used in spindle, leaks out if not sonically sealed correctly (no doctor who jokes lol) oil got on motor housing and disconnects from base, with little room spindle looks like a screw. The electronics inside, at least on the fans in my possession, are pretty heavy duty quality. Glad I got these when I did. Led strip for the core, and motor not bad either. Took broken one apart to trace the connections and PCB. When I build anything that requires electronic components, I get them from Digikey. Have my old middle school teacher to thank for that info. Won first prize years ago making a solar digital scoreboard. Solar panel was on loan as shockingly, those $30 panels on Amazon, we're $25,000 in the late 1980s. Had I used Radio Shack, the cost to build it would have been over $440, a lot to me back then. Science teacher gave me a digikey catalog, and turned the $440 into a $43 project. RadioShack 8 switch dipswitch was $5.89, I needed 8. Digikey sold them at 16 cents each, in 10 lots. Those $20 two pack rechargeable D cells, Digikeys Varta brand was $1.89 each, 5 pack requirement. Used a big track touch pad, for key entry.

[glass otter]

What aio would you guys recommend

[glass otter]

For a i5-12600k

[strange flume]

EVGA CLC 280 on EVGA's B-stock section at $55 sounds nice

Unless you already have one* in your case rn?

[glass otter]

Selling to my whole pc to my friend tho

Also it’s kinda loud

[strange flume]

On eBay Arctic has a B-stock store for the Liquid Freezer 2

One of those for like, 280mm or 360mm would be really good

It's like $80 or something for a 360mm

[glass otter]

I’ll look into those thanks 🙂

[uneven solstice]

Can confirm that the LFII 360 is a tad overkill on the 12600k for the average user. 280 would be great if it's cheaper.

[neat nova]

cooling experts, is there anyway to fix the cooling on the gpu?

[noble quarry]

wth

[shrewd juniper]

Put the air cooler back on since it's a 6700xt

[noble quarry]

a 6700xt? wth

so, he have a custom loop for a 6700xt while his cpu is cooled by a wraith cooler? what a chad

and those tubes seem like they barely made to the fittings

ouch

[sacred wren]

It's an 1800x too

We were talking about it in build chat

Listed for 850 cad

[noble quarry]

ew

[sacred wren]

850 cad is alright, assuming 16gb and a decent amount of storage

Watch it only have a hard drive

[noble quarry]

and he should ask for the original heatsink on the 6700xt as well

he can scavenge that cooling loop anyway for some cheap money

the pump and the reservoir could worth something

[neat nova]

yea I think the original owner had the previous cooler

but wouldn't the water cooling perform better?

[noble quarry]

meaningless on a 6700xt

while adding the hassle of maintenance

no point really

[neat nova]

um if you don't mind me asking what kind of maintenance

I just don't know anything about this stuff

[noble quarry]

basically draining the fluid for a new fluid every 4-6 months

like changing the oil in a car

also a lot of cleaning on while doin that

you only justify that if you are into heavy oc or very high end gear... on a 6700xt... no

[neat nova]

hmm ok

would it be hard to put the original cooling on it?

Or just adding thermal pads and paste and stuff

[noble quarry]

yeah that, just some screws, and repaste

unless you rip the thermal pads, the one already on the card are ok

you should use a youtube video for that in any case

[neat nova]

what about connecting the fans back?

Oh ok thanks a lot

[noble quarry]

what about that? just plug the fans again

the headers are on the pcb of the card

[neat nova]

also do you guys think the MSI X370 Gaming PRO Carbon is fine if I just upgrade the cpu to a ryzen 5000

[shrewd juniper]

The whole pc?

[sacred wren]

Maybe with a 5600, iirc only some x370s support 5000 series

[sacred wren]

Yeah

[shrewd juniper]

Not terrible

[shrewd juniper]

All do now

[sacred wren]

Ah ok

[neat nova]

oh ok then I might do that

[jolly dragon]

Has anyone seen temp issues with pump-in-radiator style AIOs that are not MSI branded? I have one from Fractal that worked well for several months, then rather suddenly started overheating. I was lucky a local person had a gently used air cooler I could swap in.

[viscid vapor]

The first two pins on each motherboard fan header is said to be 12v constant. Don't those voltages change when an application for that motherboard or the bios, changes fan speed, or should I be looking for something else?

After I finish this build, Im moving 5 of the 12 RGB fan motor connections, which are 12v, to motherboards fan headers.

[noble quarry]

get some splitters, i dont think most mobos have that much headers

[strange flume]

No no the voltages don't change regardless

Current does via pwm signal

[noble quarry]

oh yes

that

[viscid vapor]

The manual that shows every pin voltage for on the Aorus 690, gives zero info on the fan voltages, other to say RGB is constant 12v

[noble quarry]

my bad

yes the voltage is fixed, the current is the variable parameter

[strange flume]

Fan voltages are 12V constant unless you have 3 pin fans

[noble quarry]

google is such an amazing tool

[strange flume]

Ya

[strange flume]

Why does this worry you btw

I don't think I've ever worried about this lol. Fans are like <0.3A

[noble quarry]

less

[strange flume]

<

[noble quarry]

p12s are 0.1 amps in fact

[strange flume]

<

LL120's are 0.3

[noble quarry]

maybe the p30 is 0.3

[strange flume]

Deltas are 1

[noble quarry]

holly cow

[strange flume]

Kekw

This is why they be caged

[viscid vapor]

The RGB fans color control is controlled by the motherboard, but for some reason, GIM controller isn't made to control the fans speed via motherboard, only the remote. My aim was to move the current connections from the RGB controller, to separate fan headers, so the motherboard can control important fans, rather than me having to use a remote.

[strange flume]

You mean you want to splice the rgb to pwm headers??

Or is this 12v rgb

[noble quarry]

or just dump that controller and get splitters for all your fans

[strange flume]

This seems much more productive

[viscid vapor]

Fans motors only have two connectors. The Hot 12v, and return aka ground

[strange flume]

And a data or current signal

[noble quarry]

unless the fans are proprietary

then you are screwed

[strange flume]

No even then, you need a variable in the signal or the fans will turn like a molex, max or 0 lol

[viscid vapor]

The fans won't run without the controller. Manufacturer rearranged the connections.

[noble quarry]

there felix

he is screwed

you should ditch those fans and get some standard fans like the p12s

[strange flume]

What are these fans btw

[viscid vapor]

GIM, the ones with LEDs built into both the base and blade.

[strange flume]

Did someone suggest them using this? Or were they super cheap

[noble quarry]

no

we all suggested against those

but he went for those anyway

[strange flume]

Really cheap fans even with a lot of LED's dont use adapter connections, they use a standard remote and preprogrammed sequences

[noble quarry]

much like we battled against the gamemax psu

[viscid vapor]

Ravel, you talking about me or someone else? I purchased these fans long ago.

Hey, I got the EVGA silly

[noble quarry]

and we are glad you made the right choice

[viscid vapor]

You won that battle

[noble quarry]

👍

still i find it weird that the hub on your fans cant let you control the speed on your fans

[strange flume]

Le oof

Sounds like molex

[viscid vapor]

Hub controls the speed via remote.

OMG, I feel stupid!!!

I got 30 surplus hubs!!! I CAN just wire one to the motherboard so the motherboard signal replaces the remote.

[strange flume]

If you're implying just sense and pwm/current, maybe??? This seems like a lot of effort and with it's own risks

This is also implying these are PWM fans or DC

I just wouldn't do it

Inwin sirius loops are like $7 a piece

[viscid vapor]

Another GIM controller, but instead of using the sata line, use a sata to pwm connection, and move the 5 fans to that controller.

First controller for RGB, second for speed control by motherboard.

[strange flume]

Sata to PWM will just be pure power

In other words you'll try and draw 75W through a PWM header and kaboom it

Lol

[viscid vapor]

The fan headers go to the sata on controller

[strange flume]

You should really consider new fans, you bought DDR5, you can afford fans lol

[strange flume]

I'm aware where it's going

[viscid vapor]

I don't like the fans RGB display living me to either selecting a blade type or a base type GIM fans do both.

[strange flume]

Sata has a draw power limit of 75W per connector

So you'll be pushing about 6.3A through a 1A fan header

Maybe not actually this much but unless you want to check with a multimeter how much the controller is drawing then go for it

You won't get any signal from the board either

Since sata is purely power

[viscid vapor]

No, that's not what I'm doing. Instead of using the 12v from the sata connection, I'm using the 12v from the fan header instead, and carrying the extra signal for speed control. Worse will be the LEDs dim as well, unless I move those lines to a separate controller.

[strange flume]

Lol

You won't get any signal through that pwm to sata

[viscid vapor]

God I hate when you do that lol

[strange flume]

That's what I'm trying to tell you

Sata is a pure power connector, there is no signal

[viscid vapor]

Let me draw a schematic up, it will show what I'm doing. Trying to explain it is digging a hole for me that I'm doing a horrible job explaining

[strange flume]

If the controller itself doesn't have a separate signal line you can take you won't get this to work

And the LED's won't be dimmer, you'll probably just fry or melt the fan header on the mobo in a more likely circumstance

[viscid vapor]

Felix, I know it has no signal, but the fan header does. It shouldn't be to difficult to route that signal to the part of the hub that controls speed via the remote.

[strange flume]

More power to you if you can get that to work but just don't use pwm to sata like that

If you have a controller rated for a 75W connection then use it via the connection intended

[viscid vapor]

I'm using the wrong terms, which is why I'm explaining it wrong.

Wiring diagram/Schematic does a far better job explaining what Im having difficult time putting into words.

I haven't fried a single thing since 1989. So that should say something lol

[strange flume]

Fair enough. I only say this cos I am trying to look out anyway

[viscid vapor]

Two things I messed up in 1989, SCSI that pin 1 was marked incorrectly with no directional block to stop backwards plug in. Similar to IDE. Two lines melted through ribbon cable in seconds. Second goof in 89 was a stupid 9 volt cord, fell out of my dremmel, and landed in an open 1050 disk drive, frying the PCB. Luckily those parts costs me $28, everyone else $150+ back then.

Thanks. Believe me, I appreciate it.

I'm also not starting the fan project until I have all working first. I'm still waiting for my compressor to blow out the ram sockets as I'm getting a C2 error on first turn on, no post.

And yes, swapped ram, tested one at a time. Still C2.

[strange flume]

Probably not ram then

C2 is a reserved code

If you can update bios I'd try that

reddit not the best source but reddit saying doing a q-flash will fix this sort of error

[viscid vapor]

Won't post,meaning can't get into bios, but I think I just discovered something.

[strange flume]

don't need to get into bios if you have a q-flash slot

[viscid vapor]

Know that peel off plastic you take off the rgb components after done assembly, it's corner is under 3 of the ram slots. Think I just found the issue.

Be back in a bit.

Quick question, Q-Flash work with NVME USB or have to use a USB thumb drive?

Actually, I'll go read it up. Sorry, you helped enough.

[strange flume]

Anything that's formatted correctly as a usb device will work really

FAT32 iirc

Yeah fat 32

It goes into a specific slot labeled BIOS

Then you hit the qflash button

Don't touch it until you see it try to post again

The BIOS file needs to be named GIGABYTE.bin

[idle tiger]

I'd read the manual, follow the instructions

[shrewd juniper]

.15 or something iirc still not much

[knotty sparrow]

Depends on the model, but they're between 0.11A and 0.14A so you can safely daisy chain 7-9 on a single header

[noble quarry]

[uneven solstice]

[strange flume]

Not sure what to think of MX-4 now

Remounted with NT-H1 and lost another 20W

I think I'm just mounting this cooler terribly

[rotund sable]

"lost another 20W"?

[strange flume]

At 90C I'm pulling 20W less

Under load

OCCT small fixed

[rotund sable]

that's a good thing

[strange flume]

It's a terrible mounting system, it was previously on there with NT-H2 doing 230W under 90C

That's a good thing? Even if frequency down?

[rotund sable]

oh well if the frequency is lower than no

[strange flume]

Yeah gonna try remounting again later

[rotund sable]

it really could just be a margin of error kind of thing

[strange flume]

Oh idk, suddenly from 230W to 165W sounds like potato hands to me

The mounting system is really bad tho, it's got no base screws to slot onto so the backplate is free

Gonna sticky it down this time

[uneven solstice]

@strange flume be having skill issues eh? <3 did you get it figured out?

[shrewd juniper]

What cooler?

[strange flume]

Eisbaer LT360

[strange flume]

Been at work all day

[uneven solstice]

Oof. Have you been thinking about it all day too?

[strange flume]

Nah, been enjoying the peace and quiet

[uneven solstice]

Ha

[strange flume]

It's a great cooler when it works. Has been able to handle more wattage than the EK

Tonight ima try again and not derp it up

[shrewd juniper]

When it works lol

Consistency is clearly not it's forte

[strange flume]

Ya cos the mounting system is a piece of ass

[shrewd juniper]

Smh

[strange flume]

Smhmh

[shrewd juniper]

@uneven solstice just felt like fueling your addiction it's whiteee

[rotund sable]

how much does it cost though lol

[strange flume]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[strange flume]

Retried the mounting, back up to 202W sustained load with NT-H2 and better CB score (Yes CB cos it's quick af)

Fixed it now methinks

NT-H2 proving to me again how good it is

[uneven solstice]

[strange flume]

• Starts simping disgustingly *

[rotund sable]

just get an aio

[strange flume]

But can you look this good with an aio

[rotund sable]

yes

[strange flume]

[rotund sable]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

[strange flume]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-loop-3d-edit-gif-24518425

[strange flume]

Slowly curing the paste and watching the package power slowly increase, 202, 203, 205*, 207...

Dunno how much higher it'll go but it's still going

[noble quarry]

still struggling with the bad mounting?

[strange flume]

nah I think it's ok now

just was cool to see the wattage and frequency creep up even more with the repaste lol

[idle tiger]

What chip? Running pbo/co I assume?

Should try a bench like 7zip or ycruncher to gauge performance.

Though, clocks at p95 are a valid metric.

[summer wren]

were aloud to ask questions here, right?

[left pulsar]

You just did. Now if being allowed to, idk.

[summer wren]

oh good point lol

im trying to find an lga 1200 mounting bracket for an aio but im having trouble finding one, would anyone know where to look?

[knotty sparrow]

1200? I don't think that one was all that different from the 115X one, a lot of coolers used a combo bracket.
It's 1700 that uses a totally redone layout.

[final crescent]

like Fal'Cie said the LGA15xx is typically the same for 1200 chips, usually the notation will show the bracket as "15xx/1200" or something along those lines, at least my AIO's parts/bracket did

[idle tiger]

It's 115x that uses the same mounting as 1200, 1700 is wider

[final crescent]

yea sry i was in a rush typing while working, it's def 115x lol

[summer wren]

alright thanks

[strange flume]

Ya I was doing that but with OCCT small and watching the average freq. go up slowly lol
And ye 5900X with my old PBO+CO settings
I could try it with P95 too I guess lol

[strange flume]

https://cdn.deepcool.com/public/ProductFile/DEEPCOOL/Cooling/CPUAirCoolers/AK620_ZERO_DARK/Overview/07_01.jpg?fm=webp&q=60

[twin ivy]

Hot

But in a good way

[shrewd juniper]

I think you mean cold

[strange flume]

Col

[viscid vapor]

Lucky I accidentally purchased an extra Se-214 cooler, because the se-914 failed to mention it doesn't come with an LGA 1700 bracket. Took forever to find one too.

[shrewd juniper]

The 914 isn't very good anyway

[viscid vapor]

Radiator is definitely much better quality than the 214. 214 is like tin foil.

[strange flume]

Wait

What's going under the se 214

[shrewd juniper]

Iirc the fans are just real slow

[viscid vapor]

I can swap the fan out. I have Plenty of RGB fans that will fit . The 214 looks strange without the top RGB plate I'm used to.

[strange flume]

What is the 214 being used with

[noble quarry]

wait? whos talking bad about the 214?

https://tenor.com/view/gang-gangsters-ready-to-fight-lets-do-this-get-out-of-here-gif-16876690

[viscid vapor]

It's being used with my new Aorus Master Z690 I9. I tend to steer clear of water coolers, the vibrations caused by airport and train station have caused Corsair water coolers to slip their lines in past, and it was just luck the pipes leaked to bottom of case and not hit anything important.

Their so called sealed units weren't as sealed as one can hope.

[shrewd juniper]

BRO THAT IS AN OVEN

Returm

You're gonna heavily bring down frequency

If you want to air cool a 12900k, deepcool ak620 is your best bet

Although that will still throttle it will be a lot less

[noble quarry]

ak620 best waifu

[dreamy locust]

what are the usual dimensions for an AIO cpu block/waterblock?↓... the dimension i need the most is the height, does it usually go past 50mm?

[noble quarry]

depends on the brand

look for something that you like for your build and look for the specs on their manufacturer webpage

no use to give you an "average" because every brand build their own custom design

[viscid vapor]

15 fans, not counting the CPU fan. I also don't overclock my system. Never had any reason to.

[shrewd juniper]

doeesnt matter just not not enough heatsink

[left pulsar]

5fans & good heatsink > 15fans & poopoo heatsink.

[viscid vapor]

Have you even seen that se-214 heat sink? It's huge.

Aluminum which bends to easily.

[noble quarry]

it is

but not enough for an i9

thats the point

even the metal have limitations

[shrewd juniper]

No it's normal tower cooler size

It's a 20$ cooler after all

[noble quarry]

you need to see the ak620

now, thats huge!

[viscid vapor]

RGB suggestions?

[noble quarry]

for?

[left pulsar]

Thermalright Frost Spirit rgb version would be the minimum I'd suggest. AK620 & FC140 (frost commander) are better but idk if they have rgb. AK620 is often only $55ish btw.

[noble quarry]

no, ak620 have no rgb, but you can swap the fans if needed after all

still i would use an aio for an i9

even a big tower cooler will struggle a bit to cool that beast

[left pulsar]

For sure. Either way, could start with adjusting down the Power Limit a bit.

[shrewd juniper]

Honestly ak620 replaced with arctic p12 rgb's

[noble quarry]

or an LS720

im in love with that aio

[strange flume]

Now you see why I was asking

[shrewd juniper]

Indeed

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

Xanthors 12900k on se 214xt

https://tenor.com/view/fine-this-is-fine-gif-20102174

[viscid vapor]

Enermax Liqmax III 240 A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 240mm Radiator, 120mm ARGB PWM Fan, for Intel/AMD, 5 Year Warranty (w/ LGA1700 Bracket) https://a.co/d/cNkA0e7

[shrewd juniper]

Oh god no

Enermax literally make the worst aios

[shrewd juniper]

If you where to get an aio, arctic liquid freezer ii (a(rgb)) or ek rgb 360mm for both

[noble quarry]

Ls720 my man

Listen to me 😀

Hehehe jk, pato's recs are cool

Still the ls720 is a close second

Enermax tho 🤮

More like clogginmax

[strange flume]

Minimum 360mm water cooler for a 12900K @viscid vapor

I also suggest a thermalright contact frame so it actually contacts well

You have a few good options, EK basic 360mm,, EK AIO D-RGB 360mm, Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360mm (ARGB or none, don't fan swap it), Deepcool LS720 360mm, Lian Li Galahad 360mm

[viscid vapor]

GameMax has a decent 360mm one.

[strange flume]

Please don't

[viscid vapor]

I'm joking

[strange flume]

Lol good

The coldplate design and pump are critically improtant on a 12900K, makes the difference between a molten mess and relatively decent, even on a 360 AIO

But the heat density on the chip is so thick that you can't really use anything smaller, you won't get any overclocking performance out of it let alone stock

[viscid vapor]

They are pricey, yet don't come with an LGA1700 bracket. Just about every one I see says optional.

[strange flume]

Ya cos LGA1700 is relatively new

But they will update stock with the brackets as time continues on

Some AIO's ship with it now even if it's not described on the box

[viscid vapor]

Not so sure, especially with series 13 coming out?

[shrewd juniper]

Both arctic and ek have lga1700 out od the box

Only crap aios don't lol

[strange flume]

Takes time to update products but also you have old stock in some places even now

So even if I say "Yes definitely" no 100% guarantee lol

[shrewd juniper]

At this stage anything without lga1700 at this stage is not even worth buying anyway

[strange flume]

They're all compatible btw

[shrewd juniper]

Especially if it's not a popular model

[viscid vapor]

I just don't want to buy one and have to wait 60 days for a bracket from China.

[strange flume]

If you buy from a popular place like Newegg the chances are really low

Also the contact frame will take some time to deliver btw but will pay off once you put it in

[viscid vapor]

Se-914, I'm stuck waiting for the bracket. Wasn't too low a chance lol.

[strange flume]

I didn't suggest that one tho

Have a look at this one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354100888026

One of the best coolers period and it's $78

Sold by the manufacturer

[viscid vapor]

Those huge heat sink ones scare me as it is. My son's older system, I7, gen 7, took a fall after small earthquake. The impact tore the socket, CPU, and square size hole right out of the motherboard. Was a complete loss until my wife pointed out I somehow purchased insurance, don't know how they snuck that in, but covered accidental, so got a refurbished MB.

This looks interesting

Check this out on @Newegg: MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 360mm Radiator, Triple PWM, ARGB Lighting Controlled by Software LGA 1700 Ready / AM5 Compatible https://www.newegg.com/msi-liquid-cooling-system-mag-series/p/N82E16835846027?Item=9SIBAXAJ7N6076&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBAXAJ7N6076-_-09272022

[strange flume]

Nope that one has had issues

Avoid

[shrewd juniper]

Bro nothing is worth buying apart from the following
Ek rgb 360mm
Arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm (rgb)
Lian li Galahad (too expensive and poor response to lga 1700 so I don't like recommend anymore)
Deepcool LS720 also decent option

[strange flume]

Please refer to this

[strange flume]

Going back to this, is why I suggest nothing else

[noble quarry]

The bois will give you the best advice

You are trying hard to see other choices who are bad for your i9

I mean if you have the money for an i9 you should have the money for the best functional cooling solution for it as well

[strange flume]

We aren't even suggesting the over-expensive options either

All the ones I put up are in the low-mid range pricing for 360mm

Heck, while I'm at it, EVGA CLC 360mm

There's another one that's good pricing on B stock

[noble quarry]

Msi aios are mastercloggers btw

[strange flume]

Mast-

[noble quarry]

And c*rsair aios are mediocre at best, full bling no juice

[strange flume]

Not even gonna suggest them

Avoid

[noble quarry]

Just before he suggest those

[strange flume]

Lol true

[noble quarry]

C*rsairs are so easy to find

And to fall for them

[viscid vapor]

It's not the money, at least yet, it's issues over here and the wait between proper mounting brackets. Need to also make sure my case can support a 360mm.

[strange flume]

Indeed

@shrewd juniper check this
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se/2

The step down from AK620 is this for $40

[viscid vapor]

My old high school friend has a similar bulky cooler like that, not sure the CPU. Last winter heater in his apartment stopped working and in NY in January, it gets damned cold. When he went to close his glass door, not sure if it was the heat of the sink that did it, or it expanded slightly, but it hit the glass just a little and door shattered.

Replacement door almost cost of the case.

[strange flume]

Yeah little heatpipes like that are a bit sketchy against glass lol

Tho nowadays typically it's tempered glass, idk how long ago this glass broke but, even TG isn't immune to it

[viscid vapor]

I doubt it was tempered. Went to get a similar model 4 years back, saw how thin it was, and sent it right back. I'm talking thin that I was surprised it made it here in one piece

I'd say it's plate glass, like what goes in old wooden windows.

Just a guess.

[strange flume]

Could be, it's just for viewing anyway, doesn't need to be thick if it keeps costs low

[viscid vapor]

Thermaltake is rushing me the missing bays btw. When they got word I was being refunded for whole case and being allowed to keep it, they went out of their way to ship me the bays.

[noble quarry]

check your case's manufacturer site for the spec, probably a 360 will fit as well, most big cases can house one... and about the bracket, sorry to tell you this, but any aio/tower cooler will have this chanceof not bringing the bracket, if they have it then you are luecky, if you dont then you have to request one.... thats something not one of us can vouch

but buying an i9 have the add-in responsability to buy an aio as well

[viscid vapor]

It's the view 71 TG RGB Thermaltake

[noble quarry]

well, check it if it fits

should be

the qc passed lf2 aios should have the aio bracket already on them, the ls720 as well because is fairly new.... the ek if i rememeber correctly will give you a free bracket with the purchase as well

[strange flume]

Oh that's 360 compatible

It's also a glass box but it'll fit the aio at least

[noble quarry]

in fact the ek360 says lga1700 ready now, no more (lga brackets can be requested to the manufacturer fine print)

the thing is, you need to cope with that, with that chance to request a bracket

if your house have issues with the trains and the airplanes and all those things that make your house vibrate that much, then an air cooler will be as dangerous as an aio, one will like, while the other will break other things while it falls

nothing to do about that, but cooling your i9 with an air cooler is asking your i9 to perform as an i7

[strange flume]

We've passed the air cooler part

[noble quarry]

so, buy a 360 for your i9 if you want to use the cpu at its fullest, even if the bracket is included or not

shut up man, im inspired

[strange flume]

[noble quarry]

[strange flume]

I will continue to watch your paternity take root

[noble quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-palpatine-anakin-skywalker-phantom-menace-gif-10607636

[plucky elm]

Im looking to upgrade my R5 5600x to the 5800 3d in the near future but i bought an enermax 360 aio. I am currently looking at either the Ek 280/360 or the Arctic II 280/360. Which Aio is better or more reliable?

[strange flume]

Arctic LFII B stock on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354100888026

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354077186811

[plucky elm]

Dang, half the price

[strange flume]

ya pretty good

[plucky elm]

Have you bought an open box item before. I am kind of worried it might crap out and my spu goes up in flames

[strange flume]

it's sold by arctic officially

so it's tested and qc passed to work

it's just their b stock so like

potential dents or scuffs

but still working fine

[plucky elm]

oh i see the seller now

wow

[noble quarry]

yeah those arent open box

are b-stock

similar i know

but qc passed as felix said, and sold by artic themselves

[plucky elm]

I need to replace the enermax 360 i havent been to pleases with it

[marsh badge]

b stock is mostly just probably not perfect samples

[strange flume]

goomax 360

[marsh badge]

but they pass qc

[left pulsar]

B-stock is definitely better than open box, returns, "refurbs". -- Well sometimes an open box is still "new", but yea.

[plucky elm]

I am just worried it will crap out when i upgrade to the 3d or the 5900X. Do you think im being too cautious

[strange flume]

it won't

LF2 is one of the best 4 aio's you can buy

[marsh badge]

i think they do come with 6 years warranty

but im not sure about b-stock

[strange flume]

if it's tested working then it'll be fine

[plucky elm]

I was asking about the enermax 360 i currently own

[strange flume]

more likely you'll upgrade later

[noble quarry]

clogginmax 360

[marsh badge]

enermax

[plucky elm]

ok, lmao

[strange flume]

oh the goomax

[marsh badge]

yeah that thing will fill with goo soon enough

[unique lily]

Aggie-HOZ/ Luovik#6212 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky elm]

ok

whoops

sorry

[noble quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nttKqzQiZEo&t=945s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlTlCV1AgoA&t=357s

[marsh badge]

algae be like "this aio is good, let's live in it"

[plucky elm]

haha lol

[noble quarry]

Change it asap

Like save for that part next

[plucky elm]

yeah, i have had some temp issues and its been maybe 3 months

[noble quarry]

Maybe clogging

[plucky elm]

nothing crazy crazy but enought to make me feel uneasy

[noble quarry]

Start sliwly building up

Slowly

[marsh badge]

hey it's planned obsolescence

[noble quarry]

Same thing with the master clogger ones

[marsh badge]

some also leak

[noble quarry]

Made by msi

[marsh badge]

leak master

[noble quarry]

Leak master cloggers 360

[marsh badge]

i just can't wait to cop 3060 lappy

i wanna experience dlss

[strange flume]

mastercloggers, goomax, coarsehair

Eh K

cooler master master master liquid master cooler master maker liquid cooler

A sus

biggest fan techs

and deepcool

[marsh badge]

shallowcool

[plucky elm]

hahaha lmao

[strange flume]

lyin li

[marsh badge]

oh no lian li is lying

[strange flume]

Betacool

[marsh badge]

alientrash

[strange flume]

bronzestone

[marsh badge]

ewvga

[strange flume]

ICUP (NZXT)

[plucky elm]

Thanks for the help!!!

[strange flume]

np

[marsh badge]

lol this feels so silly

[plucky elm]

i already bought the new...ish aio lol

[strange flume]

nice

You'll appreciate it later

[plucky elm]

It unfortunately wont be make it in before this weekend. i was going to try and inspire a friend that has a projector setup in his house to get a Pc.

I dont want to show off my Pc and something go wrong because of the AIO. That would be a terrible selling point lmao

[strange flume]

that would be a comically rare and hilarious scenario

[jolly dragon]

It's funny seeing all the posts about AIOs when my Fractal Design 280mm AIO clogged after 6 months. I swapped in a Scythe Fuma 2 air cooler, it was literally the only thing I could find locally to get running again. Then again, I am running a less demanding CPU (I7-11700F), not overclocking, and my case has fair airflow. I am wary of any CPU upgrades where I would require an AIO now. Fortunately, I be poor, and am gonna have to wait until Intel's 15th Gen or Ryzen 8xxx 😎

[strange flume]

Can't remember the last time I saw a fractal aio tbh

FUMA 2 *should be a good pairing for an 11700F tho

Since it's backported from 10nm it's supposed to be fairly easy to cool

[noble quarry]

More like clogtal design

[shrewd juniper]

Doesn't se have bad mount on lga1700 or something tho?

And toms doesn't use an actual cpu just simulated load by looks of things

[shrewd juniper]

At least they're no longer aesatek

[strange flume]

Can you give me a source cos I can't find that anywhere

Dual tower for high end LGA 1700 anyway is mostly a no but for something like a 12700F this looks like it'd work

[noble quarry]

excuse me?

[strange flume]

[noble quarry]

[strange flume]

AK620 is my bae but spirit SE is $20 cheaper

Now imagine this is good enough to bring the AK620 price down

[noble quarry]

[shrewd juniper]

Lemme try find i remember ryan linking before he left

[jolly dragon]

Doesn't hurt I got it lnib for $25. 💰💰💰

[strange flume]

That's awesome for 25

[jolly dragon]

Yup. I was lucky, because someone else had also made the offer - and was a no show. Me, I was without my main computer for half a week.

[shrewd juniper]

Can't find the link but yeah the se has terrible mounting on lga 1700, search pa120 se and you'll see ryan on about it tho, I'll message him see if he has a source

Although possibly first hand can't remember

[strange flume]

Hmm ok I'll buy it

Non SE is convex tho he says

It's also 2mm taller

[shrewd juniper]

I dm'd so we will see if he responds

But imo not worth the risk

[strange flume]

Ok

Oh but the regular one is only $4 more @shrewd juniper

So that one

[shrewd juniper]

Ah there you go

Deff worth the safe of mind

[strange flume]

I mean that's fine

Point is we have a good dual tower for $40

The bar has been lowered yet again

[shrewd juniper]

@strange flume

[strange flume]

hmm

ok so don't suggest for anything high end *air, but a mid-range cooler it's good

ig

[shrewd juniper]

Well imo either (for us anyway) you have se 214xt or you go straight to pa120/ak620

[strange flume]

ye

that's what I'm thinking or gammax

then straight to Arctic b stock

actually

[shrewd juniper]

Like idk i feel like pa120 atm in kinda middle ground

[strange flume]

is there a freezer esports for cheap b stock

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah well i always forget

Idk

[strange flume]

me look

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353886382686

[shrewd juniper]

I mean like 12600k no oc /maybe 12700 would probably be the only times i would think about it but with 12700f you have enough budget for 20 extra for the best of the best

[shrewd juniper]

31$ seems meh no?

[strange flume]

$25

no?

I suppose you have to feel a bit cute might delete later for red tho

but that's $4 more over an SE or Gammax for an extra fan

[shrewd juniper]

Oh shows 31 for me

[strange flume]

ah

like me and amazon

lel

[shrewd juniper]

That's probably cuz ebay app detect I'm not in us or something

Yeah

Same with amz for me

[strange flume]

I think $4 has good purpose there

If you are minmax'ing a build

[shrewd juniper]

5$ smh

[strange flume]

I'll pay a dollar

actually

almost 6

[shrewd juniper]

Oh no he's got an idea

Oh few just price diff

[strange flume]

my ideas are smartupid

don't underestimate an australian armed with a heatsink

[shrewd juniper]

25-19.99 =6

[strange flume]

25.81-19.99= 5.82

[shrewd juniper]

Well you said 25 so

[strange flume]

ya but then I said actually

[shrewd juniper]

Smh my head

[strange flume]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ9YJl.png

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gideon-nerdy-gif-nerdy-gideon-nerdy-pushes-up-glasses-pushes-up-glasses-gif-25914290

[uneven solstice]

Hey guys, I have a Corsair 220T RGB Airflow. I am also looking at getting a tower cooler.. My question is.. If I put a fan in every slot with front as intake and top/rear as exhaust.. is that going to mess with the airflow of the tower cooler or vice versa?

[sacred wren]

Just don't put one directly above towards the front of the heatsink, if that makes sense

Like

In my case there's two slots for fans on the top, I've got one directly behind the heatsink towards the back of the case

But you don't want one on the other slot

[uneven solstice]

alright cool. That is what I was thinking.

[viscid vapor]

Is that actually resting on the video card?

[left pulsar]

No, Noc D15 gets closer even

[viscid vapor]

I wouldn't trust a fan like that in any of my builds. Looks like a sure way to fry both motherboard and CPU should any metal part touch that video card. Don't even think a top grade mothetherboard with all short protection built in could save it with that type of short.

[left pulsar]

Gpu backplate solves that possible issue.

[noble quarry]

wut?

i dont know where to start really....

the frame of the fans and the blades are plastic made

the cooler is far away from the gpu, way far, there is no way for it to touch the card if you mount and secure it well, in fact is more probable to rip or damage the mobo from bending than the cooler physically touch the gpu

and the backplates on the gpus protect the card IF something like that EVER happen, which is very unlikely

top grade or cheap mobo, its all the same btw there is no short protections in a mobo, those are on the psu

anyway that's why research in advance is always good, i researched a lot about measurements, clearance and performance on the ak620 before pulling the trigger

and yeah as chillin said, the nh-d15 is way bigger 😛 and wider (thicc af)

[ember glacier]

is it normal for my cpu to be at 96 degrees celsius when playing games

[viscid vapor]

On my phone, it looked like the CPU cooler was resting on the EVGA video card. Some fans are actually aluminum. I have two burried from late 1980s. One came from an old smashed up air hockey table, the other, not sure what it was, but a smashed up very old IBM I found in my park when I used to live in NY.

[noble quarry]

They are not made of metal anymorr

I wonder if yours are of metal? The ones for your case

No fans for this type of work are made of metal, maybe for server rack types..maybe but not for desktop pcs at least

Besides metal fans are more dangerous to the user than to the pc itself, no point of building those fans, therr is no way those would be approved for sale in this market

[final crescent]

what game? what CPU? what cooler?

[ember glacier]

stock and cooler 3200g

amd

[sacred wren]

No

It is not normal

[ember glacier]

it got up to 113 💀

80 on games now

got 5600x and 6700xt

cpu at 80

and you at around 60

gpu

[noble quarry]

turn that thing off

your cooling solution aint working pal

[marsh badge]

you probably forgot thermal paste

sounds like it

[noble quarry]

well 113 is terrible indeed, but 80 and 60 on games are pretty normal on that gpu and cpu

start worrying at 90+

like that 113 number

[shrewd juniper]

Or there is a plastic peel on the cooler or the fan wasn't plugged in

[ember glacier]

no i put thermal paste on

idk what to do

maybe different thermal paste

i’ll get some mx4 from best buy

[sacred wren]

It's not the thermal paste, it's likely how much you used

Or the way you mounted the cooler, might not be tight enough

@ember glacier

Hell the paste I'm currently using is probably worse than yours

Are you getting 80c while gaming, or is that idle?

If gaming, that's perfectly fine

[ember glacier]

idle

@sacred wren

nothing open

[sacred wren]

What cooler, stock?

I would take the cooler off, clean the thermal paste off, put new paste on, and put the cooler back on

Did you redo the paste when you put the 3200g back in, and then again when you put the 5600x back in?

@ember glacier

[ember glacier]

stock amd cooler

i reapplied the thermal paste each time

[sacred wren]

How much would you say you used?

[strange flume]

Are you doing small turns at each corner screw when you mount it?

[ember glacier]

i just did an x pattern

[ember glacier]

i did 5 turns

diagonally

top left bottom right

bottom left top right

[strange flume]

5 turns is fine

Ok you're mounting it fine by the sounds of it

[ember glacier]

maybe i just need more thermal paste?

[strange flume]

80 is indeed high tho, which paste?

[ember glacier]

hy510

[strange flume]

Nah a cross should be sufficient to keep you well away from 80C

Is it old paste?

[ember glacier]

nope

new

well

not new new

from like august 24

[strange flume]

Last 6 months is new enough

[ember glacier]

oh okay

[strange flume]

When you take it off, what does the paste look like?

[ember glacier]

dark

darker than the stock one

preapplied stock

[strange flume]

Does it look like it's blotchy at all?

[ember glacier]

as in?

[strange flume]

Clumps

Uneven

Uhh

Some parts stuck, some parts not?

[ember glacier]

no

[strange flume]

Interesting, I mean it seems all fine

Are you at the pc now? To try again?

[ember glacier]

no i can’t right now

[strange flume]

Ah ok

Was wondering if a pic was possible is all

[ember glacier]

maybe in about 9 hours

i’ll get back to you

[strange flume]

Np

[ember glacier]

if you could help me go through the process that’d be great

[strange flume]

I'm at work in 9 hours rip

[ember glacier]

well shoot

[strange flume]

But we have others here

[ember glacier]

yeah

actually more like 11 hours since i have school and football

[strange flume]

I feel like maybe the brand of paste could be at fault but also any interface material can really work, even toothpaste

I would expect better than 80C idle

80 seems high for mounting properly, I'm now wondering if maybe the IHS is very uneven

[ember glacier]

when i can i’ll take out the fan and reapply

but if that doesn’t work then idk

cuz everything is good

[strange flume]

Something either in the process or the result just seems off about it cos 113 is dangerously high

I mean you definitely screwed it all the way down yeah? Not anymore than a light tightness?

[ember glacier]

yeah it stopped

so i did

5 diagonally

tthen 3 diagonally

and they all stopped

as in they were tightened

[strange flume]

Not too tight yeah?

Anything more than finger-tight can be considered too much

[ember glacier]

like bro

94 cpu 53 gpu on fortnite

i took off the fan

reapplied paste and put the fan back on

i just don’t know at this point

[noble quarry]

stock fan?

still am4 loves high temps using pbo, thats normal for them

[noble quarry]

get a better cooler? still 90s is normal on them

[ember glacier]

nah but i think i did. something

cuz before i took out my 3200g

i got like 44 idle

maybe i should just get a better cooler

any recommendations?

[noble quarry]

budget?

you can go from the cheap 214xt to a pa120 and finally to an ak620 if you want air

if you want an aio you have the artic liquid freezer 2, ek aios, deepcol ls series

[noble quarry]

well you were talking on 94 on load, fortnite is not idle pal

[ember glacier]

it’s the same idle

right now around 89

[noble quarry]

plus the ryzen 3200g is a cooler cpu

[noble quarry]

yeah thats the normal thermal operation of the 5000x family on pbo

on load

if you are running on the stock cooler well, you need to get used to that

[ember glacier]

alright

[noble quarry]

which... leads me to this

if you are using the old 3200g stock cooler then you have your answer to those temps

[ember glacier]

no it came with stock

right now

i’m using the one that came with the 3200g

to see if it changes

but it’s the same

[noble quarry]

get a tower cooler pal

se 214xt is like 20 bucks

and its a good one

stock coolers are fine to have them under control AKA not throttling

but still high temps

to cool it down you need an aftermarket cooler

[ember glacier]

alright

[viscid vapor]

Im still deciding on the cooler. Either CustomerService saw your comment to me and did a favor and canceled the kit, or just dumb luck. I have to reseat the CPU every year, and tighten screws due to vibrations. Few years back, when the water line slipped, my cat was sleeping on the server, so you can imagine what I thought was taking place, and his look of fear with me running over to hear the sound long after he was gone. I'd rather replace with an air cooler than risk a liquid.

[viscid vapor]

By the way, normal windows screen and hard drive backup, a lot of heat is actually being generated by the RTX 2060, and very little heat from the air cooler. I'm going to move one of the thermostats near the CPU socket after this backup completes.

[sacred wren]

214xt is not that much better than stock, it's mostly just quiter. If you want noticeably lower Temps, peerless assassin 120 se is $35

Pato does say there's issues with it but from what I've found it's fine, id ask for his input

[ember glacier]

thanks thanks

i’ll order it

and see if it improves the cooling

[sacred pagoda]

This is also a good option
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Refined-SE-Technology-AX120/dp/B09LHBFPJ6/

Lowered my temps and is also quieter than stock cooler

[sacred wren]

Basically an rgbless 214xt, maybe a bit better

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah I think I saw somewhere that it's either a slightly better heatsink or a better fan (minus rgb)

There's an rgb version for $25 I think

[twin ivy]

The id cooling fan is really loud lol

Learned the hardway

On a 5600g it would constantly ramp up and down and during load was a like 65-70 degrees

@sacred wren

[knotty sparrow]

That sounds more like a fan curve problem

Increase the step up time

It'll take longer to ramp up and be less noticeable

[twin ivy]

This was the 224xt and ive switched coolers since then lol

Cause i relized the 5600g wasnt great

And that cooler would simply die if i used it with a oc 5800x

[twin ivy]

.

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah I wouldn't even try using an air cooler on that lol

AK620 might keep it under control if you enforce power limits

But I like to free my hardware from such shackles

Much to the dismay of my power bill

[twin ivy]

Im using a ls720 now

360aio

[knotty sparrow]

I just got a LFII 420

[twin ivy]

Nice

[knotty sparrow]

And fit it on a case not meant for 420mm lol

[twin ivy]

Seems legit lol

[knotty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610602203849162772/1023640927480324226/PXL_20220925_170108158.jpg

The front panel doesn't go on any more obviously and I had to remove the bottom dust filter...

But it fits

[twin ivy]

I like how small it makes your gpu look lol

[twin ivy]

Doesnt look that bad lol gonna have dust tho

[knotty sparrow]

ikr never thought one of those would look small

[twin ivy]

Crazzyy

[knotty sparrow]

I've got an electric duster, I'll hit it every couple weeks and it'll be fine

[twin ivy]

Yea i try an keep up with my case

My rooms not that dusty so it doesn't rlly matter to much

Also is that aio worth the loss of ascetics lol

[knotty sparrow]

Personally... yes very

Before and after https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610602203849162772/1023449382407913492/unknown.png

Now I can do more overclocking and benching of my 5800X without it jumping straight to 90

I dropped a whole 20 degrees

[sacred wren]

My friend has a drp4 on his 5800x, it runs at around 70-80c depending on what he's doing

Non oced. I dont think even pbo

[formal bridge]

Would it be worth it to go direct die on a 12900k?

[noble quarry]

if you want to break records then its worth

for a normal and hard oc not worth

[left pulsar]

Get the special frame kit. Drop around 5c just from that.

[shrewd juniper]

the one from thermalright or thermalgrizzly (in some regions is actually more available)

[knotty sparrow]

Direct die on the Ryzen 7000 chips is looking pretty good, can't wait for reviews on the delid/frame kit. I feel like it won't be as useful on the 70003D chips because they'll trim down the IHS to fit the cache.

[magic sparrow]

I mean direct die always has some massive gains. Now that AMD is pushing for a 95c constant temp maybe it'll get more popular. Really want easy direct die CPU stuff for everyone

[knotty sparrow]

It's a shame it's so hard to delid the new AMD chips, thanks to all the SMDs between the legs

[final crescent]

you watch the DeBauer video? they have a mechanism they're working on for selling to consumers for it

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah and he already killed a CPU using it

[final crescent]

yeah RIP 7700x lol

[hushed ivy]

Hello, if anyone has a good recommendation for a good cpu cooler for a Ryzen 9 5900x DM me or lmk somehow because I have allot of overheating and crash problems with my current setup

https://www.newegg.ca/p/2YM-008G-00014

This is one I was recommended

[knotty sparrow]

Cheaper and better performance https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a

[hushed ivy]

thanks man

Do you have any case recommendations that will fit this with an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero board

new to this if you couldnt tell already

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08M49WW51/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AUAODZIY13WRB&psc=1

[knotty sparrow]

You probably don't need a crosshair if you're not doing extreme overclocking

[hushed ivy]

was lookin at this '

[knotty sparrow]

That's a good case

[hushed ivy]

i already bought the board, i upgraded board gpu and cpu and kept everything from my first build

[knotty sparrow]

I see, well it'll work fine. You can get a bigger liquid cooler if you want to fill out the case a bit, since it's a larger one.

[hushed ivy]

whats the biggest size i can get?

360mm?

[shrewd juniper]

420mm

[hushed ivy]

damn ok

[knotty sparrow]

No 360

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX80315