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strange flume
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im not

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thats the funny part

marsh badge
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ah yes

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the fan stack

rotund sable
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counter-rotating fans 🧠 🧠 🧠 🧠

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(i know they arent actually)

harsh crow
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Needs to be RGB fans then yes.

fallen jackal
harsh crow
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See, you get it.

fallen jackal
harsh crow
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For every RGB object in your pc, the overall base performance is upped by 20%.

fallen jackal
harsh crow
fallen jackal
harsh crow
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Monster.

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RGB IS SACRED.

fallen jackal
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no its the quality

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the lights burned out when i started my pc

harsh crow
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Oooof.

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But anyways, fan stacking makes no difference performance wise.

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Only takes up extra space, and makes for better aesthetics.

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0.o.

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Just got an cool aesthetic idea.

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Stack like 3x Lian Li SL-Infinity fans.

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That would look so good.

fallen jackal
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true but i like how i have 14 fans im my computer

harsh crow
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xD.

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Alright.

harsh crow
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Do the Prisma Al fans from Fractal have about the same efficiency as the Arctic fans?

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Also how bad would it be if I used Lian-Li SL-Infinity fans?

strange flume
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Prisma would be significantly better than SL-infinity

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No idea how they perform but P12's are a reliable choice honestly

harsh crow
strange flume
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Ah

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If just for ambient flow it should be fine

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Use what you paid for tbh

harsh crow
harsh crow
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The fractal torrent is a positive pressure case so I need lots of airflow.

strange flume
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Not gonna do the math rn but SL fans are 92mm vs a full 120mm due to the surrounding rgb and cage

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So having a smaller surface area they have to spin a lot faster to match the airflow of most 120mm fans

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But they don't spin faster, so they just suck

harsh crow
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300rpm.

strange flume
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Not really

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The difference is an exponential increase in airflow the more surface area* the fan has

harsh crow
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I just looked at the rated CFM. They are lower by 6.

strange flume
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CFM≠actual representation of fan performance in a case

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It can be a relatively good sign but it's not a true indicator

harsh crow
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Currently trying to figure out the P12's static pressure.

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The SL-Infin says it's 2.66

strange flume
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Check this out

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Hey look prismas are on there

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I would go prismas definitely over SL's

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Wouldn't even worry about considering P12's now that I know that

harsh crow
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Got it. So this is a side by side comparison of the P12 vs SL-Infin on CFM and Static Pressure.

RPM: 1800 | 2100
CFM: 56.3 | 61.3
SP: 2.2 | 2.66

strange flume
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300 rpm difference won't account for the like 40-50% more surface area the P12's have

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The fans are bigger

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More bigger is more better

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This is why the torrent has fantastic airflow it's rigged with like, 180mm fans lol

harsh crow
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By the way, that chart.

strange flume
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You should look up comparison charts for 120 vs 140mm

harsh crow
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I see there is a price range.

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But is there a ranking on the ones in each price range?

strange flume
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If you look for other sources yes

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Universally standard P12's/P14's are best price-performance though

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There's definitely better

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Like Phanteks T30's for example

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Or even deltas if you don't care your pc sounds like a jet engine

harsh crow
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Holy crud, just looked at some info and the Prisma 140s have 102cfm at full speed.

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Higher airflow and slightly lower static pressure then the P14s it seems but also a bit higher noise.

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I think I will go with the Prisma Als then.

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Will save me a few bucks.

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Nvm I take that back.

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Will cost me a little more.

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BLOODY HELL.

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To get some fans in MX, 6x Fractal Prisma 140 is gonna cost me $384.

ember glacier
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what cpu cooler should i get for my 5600x

sacred wren
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depends on how cool you want it

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if you're not ocing, 214 xt would do fine

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if you are, pa120 is $40 and is pretty good

left pulsar
shrewd juniper
left pulsar
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Yea but on what, lga1700 or everything? idk. That's what the other options are for, or 214XT and similar also. FedoraTip

viscid vapor
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Looking at Rose will water coolers and noticed none of them list LGA1700. Is LGA1700 too new? I just found it strange when other coolers that fit 1150 that fit 1700, that rosewills don't list 1700 series at all.

low pumice
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lga1700 takes new bracket so

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they might just be lazy and will need you to contact support for new bracket

left pulsar
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lga1700 is 8+ months old at this point, I think almost a year actually. some companies are lazy or something.

harsh crow
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In the Fractal Torrent E-ATX version. Which would be a better fan configuration as this is a positive airflow case?

  1. 3x bottom, 6x front (push/pull)
  2. 3x bottom, 3x front, 1x back
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I have to buy my fans in packs of 3.

strange flume
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At least 2 bottom intake for gpu, 1 back exhaust, at least 1 front intake

harsh crow
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So these are both available options.

strange flume
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Bottom and front are meant to be intake by design of the case

harsh crow
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9x intake, or 5x intake with 1x exhaust.

strange flume
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Wouldn't worry about push/pull

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3 intake minimum, 6 max, back fan is exhaust

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So yes to me 5 intake 1 exhaust would be good

harsh crow
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I have 9 fans at my disclosure. Should I opt for 9x intake, or 6x intake + 1 exhaust

harsh crow
strange flume
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Push pull can help in like, fringe cases where you want a bit more out of your AIO performance (literally 1 or 2 degrees) but it's mostly pointless

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I say this for aio's btw (for anyone else reading) not thick rads

harsh crow
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I can setup a push/pull on the AIO with 3x on the bottom vs push config on the aio with 3 bottom intake and 1 exhaust.

harsh crow
strange flume
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Would be better with the latter

harsh crow
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So having a exhaust would be more beneficial.

strange flume
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Don't waste like $150 on extra fans

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You won't gain $150 of performance lol

harsh crow
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So, there will be a couple left over.

strange flume
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I know, I'm saying push pull is worthless

harsh crow
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Which is why I was wondering if I should do push/pull.

strange flume
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Do this

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With 6 fans

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2 intake bottom

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3 intake w/ rad front

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1 exhaust rear

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You should have fans with the torrent itself btw

harsh crow
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Why not, 3x bottom, 3 front, 1 back as exhaust?

harsh crow
strange flume
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Cos you'll have leftover fans lol

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3 fans on the bottom vs 2 won't do much help either

harsh crow
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I mean, never hurts to have a couple left over incase some break + I can use it on my current pc to swap out my damned EVGA CLC fans on it's rad.

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But yea, understood.

strange flume
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That would be a better idea ye

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Clc fans are loud

harsh crow
strange flume
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Effective but loud

harsh crow
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My current one was a prebuilt with a 240 aio for the CPU and g0d they are loud.

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Even noise cancelling + suppression can't rid them of all the noise in my mic.

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off subject, but how much is the FV43U supposed to be at MSRP?

strange flume
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1400!?

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Try $700

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For the usual price rn

harsh crow
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Holy $#!T that's double the cost....

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Okay I've been saved.

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B&H sells it for $680 + $70 for shipping.

strange flume
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That's a lot better

harsh crow
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Yes indeed.

harsh crow
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Would I be able to put a 180mm fan on a 420mm rad?

strange flume
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If there's a frame to mount the rad to behind the fan, yes

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You'd be mounting to the frame and not the rad tho, also idk the torrent's compatibility off by heart

harsh crow
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Would it be worth trying to put 2x180mm fans behind the 420mm aio rad?

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Instead of 3x140mm fans?

strange flume
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Two 180 in front of a 360 perhaps may work

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Again, idk the torrent compatibility

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2x180 I would wager would be better than 3x120

harsh crow
strange flume
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Hmm

harsh crow
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On the front panel.

viscid vapor
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Several nice water coolers and none had the LGA1700. It's a shame actually. Checked the main sites, and their last socket update for 3 separate manufacturers was in 2020. Guess COVID still interfears with some places.

uneven solstice
viscid vapor
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One second, their off sale now but I think I can pull their history up

shrewd juniper
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The deepcool should the rosewill is a coin toss

fallen jackal
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Why is there no difference in temperature on my cpu after I switched to a better cooler

marsh badge
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If it's idle temp you're looking at

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That doesn't matter much

fallen jackal
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No the max load

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Same before I switch

marsh badge
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Hm, does the cpu boost more aggressively than it used to?

fallen jackal
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Do I need to change the voltage?

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No the same

marsh badge
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Alright, then there's probably a lack of airflow

fallen jackal
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I have 3 fan in and 3 fan out

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2 fan on the cooler

marsh badge
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What's your case, cpu cooler and cpu?

fallen jackal
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My cpu is 5700g cooler is a thermal right pa 120 se

strange flume
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What cooler before and what cooler now

fallen jackal
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Before

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Now I switched to a thermal right pa 120 se

marsh badge
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hm

fallen jackal
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Idk I checked my cpu voyage it say it’s running at 1.39v

marsh badge
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that seems normal enough

fallen jackal
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1.32 now

fallen jackal
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It only use 49 here

marsh badge
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you have pbo off

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that's why it's sipping power

fallen jackal
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I turn it on in Ryzen master

left pulsar
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Ryzen Master is junk, use bios preferably. tbh use bios for anything besides GPU. kekw

fallen jackal
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but it doesnt let me change it

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do i need to un install ryzen master

left pulsar
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which mobo?

fallen jackal
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Do I click enable or enhance mode

marsh badge
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it's somewhere in cpu overclock

left pulsar
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Check this a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHfWmy3GYc&t=205s

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marsh badge
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no, enhance mode doesn't matter for amd much

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just gotta toggle precision boost overdrive mode

left pulsar
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Ignore how this isn't the same mobo, but should be close enough:

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fallen jackal
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Ok nothing else I need to do right?

left pulsar
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well of course make sure xmp is enabled as well (A-XMP)

fallen jackal
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but my cpu is stuck at 1400mhz

left pulsar
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Probably not, and I would uninstall Ryzen Master then reboot. Heck perhaps do "optimized default" bios settings then re-enable xmp and pbo. Run cinebench or w/e and have hwinfo in the background. Keep track of this:

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fallen jackal
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It seems the clock speed are back to normal

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but when i run games it back to 1.7ghz and whne i run cpuz and cinibench it went back to normal

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i just re launched the game the clock speed are normal but the cpu is still only using 45 watts

left pulsar
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wattage is irrelevant. It's base clock is 3.8ghz btw. cpus do lower their speed sometimes to save power anyways. Also task manager really isn't accurate.

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fallen jackal
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im using msi afterburner it has a core frenquenses monitoring

viscid vapor
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I just had to order Gim fan replacements out of a lot of 30, two spun off the spindle screws. They didn't use locktite. The model that we got, has RGB in both the base and fan, and with the right software, the effects are quite nice. First time I built my system with them, my wife and kids begged me to replace theirs as well. I learned that week, I love building systems, but having to mess with screws for 40 fans, I'm sure as hell never doing again.

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It would be nice if they came threaded already

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My best of drils couldn't tighten those screws enough. Manually tightening 160 screws, felt the pain for weeks lol

plucky elm
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Question for anyone that could possible give me some insight as to what might be happening with my PC. I’ve noticed that my core temp application recorded a max temp of 207c•. Which is stupid high I know. I have an enermax 360 mm AIO with a Ryzen 5 5600x. I have no clue as to why a temp this high was recorded on at least two separate occasions. I have recently noticed my mouse movements are a little choppy so I am wondering if maybe my cpu is going bad or some error of thermal paste application. Does anyone have ave an idea what might be the problem?

knotty sparrow
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Check hwinfo and see if it agrees with those temps. If so you probably are a victim of enermax slime/pump failure due to clogging.

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For more info on what the problem is see this, it seems to apply to most of enermax's cooler products https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlTlCV1AgoA

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eww

plucky elm
low pumice
noble quarry
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that enermax video made me hungry indeed

low pumice
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Hungry at all times eh

noble quarry
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what can i say? i have big bones

low pumice
noble quarry
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yeah kinda weird for a 5600x to not throttle itself

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or go into a complete shutdown before hitting that temp

plucky elm
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But I did then noticed there was a mhz reading on my ram but the computer runs fine

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The mouse movement gets a little funky from time to time

noble quarry
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just do a favor to yourself and get an ak620 👍

knotty sparrow
strange flume
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meanwhile me

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we're going subzero bois

plucky elm
strange flume
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is this a new install of windows?

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like a clean one when you built the system?

plucky elm
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I built the system, clean install, pc running fine for 4-5 months

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When Pc POSTs I get a screen that says fTPM corrupted or changed

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@strange flume @knotty sparrow

knotty sparrow
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You might need to reset bios to defaults and disable ftpm

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Disabling ftpm has little effect on anything except certain games that need it for anti cheat, valorant I think it was

plucky elm
knotty sparrow
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You can do a memory test to find out

plucky elm
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I will more than likely replace my AIO

plucky elm
knotty sparrow
plucky elm
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Ooo

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Thanks I need to try this.

fallen jackal
plucky elm
shrewd juniper
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Very few ram sticks have temp sensors

plucky elm
shrewd juniper
plucky elm
shrewd juniper
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Try cpu-z or hwinfo64

plucky elm
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Ok, I’ll have to give that a shot when I get home

desert ore
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Anyone here know enough about cpu coolers to recommend an excellent one for a Ryzen 5900x, around $100 US? I see the Noctua NH-D15 is well recommended and has decent specs, what I can understand of them. TIA

sacred wren
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It's just as good as the d15, except a good bit cheaper

shrewd juniper
noble quarry
fallen jackal
desert ore
desert ore
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Would you explain your judgment?

low pumice
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The NH-D15 is also a cooler with a heatsink, the fins and the heatpipes make the heatsink, AK620 cools in the same way the D15 does

desert ore
low pumice
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Might've just been differentiating between air cooler and aio

desert ore
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...just the radiators.

low pumice
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CLC360 is a simple cheap relatively dependable aio, if your case can fit 360mm top mount aio, it's a decent option, the fans can get a bit loud, but it's just a normal asetek design, nothing crazy, but not bad either.

desert ore
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I saw some interesting heatsinks without fans for cpu cooling. They were like cages. Have to be relatively big, but that they worked at all, as I said, was a surprise to me.

low pumice
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I mean, the D15 can work okay on its own without fans too

strange flume
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<Saying that as someone who owns a 5900X

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I've had 2 AIO's. One could pull 210W, the other a full 230W

low pumice
# desert ore I saw some interesting heatsinks without fans for cpu cooling. They were like c...

Take a look at this from Noctua, their take on passive coolers, and they also talk about how you can strap a fan for better cooling.
https://noctua.at/en/nh-p1

NH-P1

The NH-P1 is Noctua’s first passive CPU cooler and has been custom-designed for fanless operation from the ground up: in enclosures with good natural convection, its six heatpipes and thick, widely spaced heatsink fins enable it to cool modern high-end CPUs with low to moderate heat dissipation completely passively (see setup guidelines and list...

desert ore
low pumice
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anyways yea if you want to do anything with overclocking at all or just pbo, an aio is pretty recommended

desert ore
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Well, I was going to use DDR4 3600 memory, instead of 3200, but that's not much oc, if it is any at all. This build will not be anything but air cooled. As I said, I'm not ready for stepping out, nor is this the right moment in the tech cycle.

low pumice
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3600c16 would be recommended for use with a 5900x, the CPU can make use of it, higher infinity fabric clocks at 1:1.

strange flume
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Yea the FCLK boost would benefit

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Even if it's C18

low pumice
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If you want to stick to an air cooler, ak620 will do just fine for stock

desert ore
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You guys are funny. I only speak English...;(

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OK, looked up infinity fabric and FCLK. OK.

low pumice
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A lot of extra info if you want here
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/infinity_fabric

amd/infinity fabric

Infinity Fabric (IF) is a proprietary system interconnect architecture that facilitates data and control transmission across all linked components. This architecture is utilized by AMD's recent microarchitectures for both CPU (i.e., Zen) and graphics (e.g., Vega), and any other additional accelerators they might add in the future. The fabric was...

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but it's just the interconnect

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Faster ram -> faster interconnect -> better general performance

desert ore
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Hah, that's where I was looking.

low pumice
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If you're familiar with uncore or ring on Intel, it's the same thing

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wikichips is nice

desert ore
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I started coding in assembly language on the 8088, under MS-DOS. Within a year, I moved to C. Then, maybe 5 years later, late 1980s, to C++

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None of this in those years.

strange flume
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'twas a simpler time for PC's lol

low pumice
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also more trouble with some things lol

desert ore
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I'm actually laughing out loud. Vary true.

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Very true for both!

strange flume
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But yeah FCLK running at 3600 vs 3200 you'll seeing a decent chunk of performance gain

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Wouldn't suggest higher either as it can make running the kit at the expected speed a bit difficult

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Limits of the architecture

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You may on the other hand have a good sample and be able to but about 3733 is usually where people land

desert ore
strange flume
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No power increase really

low pumice
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being able to do 1:1 fclk with 3600 should be guaranteed, 3800 you have a decent chance, 4000 is a 50/50

strange flume
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Less than 1 watt if anything

low pumice
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For ram, power draw really isn't a big concern, and fclk is a very small thing in the whole scheme of the CPU, and don't do much to CPU power draw as a whole

strange flume
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I mean depends on the voltage profile but the difference is basically negligible

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So like, 1.35V vs. 1.5V on two different ram kits, you might see 2 watts of power difference

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If at that

desert ore
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Thanks for this. This was my best guess, but I was just guessing, based on limited knowledge.

strange flume
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It's all good

desert ore
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I really appreciate your information and discussion, Felix, Mr15, and Ravell, too.

strange flume
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Np

low pumice
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👍

desert ore
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I'm off for tonight. I hope to talk with you again.

low pumice
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Good night, cya

desert ore
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If you care to, you can look me up on youtube, as Lightemam. I created a channel a year ago, but haven't yet done my intended things with it, except for post a link to an essay I wrote. Iam going to post a reading of it, which I've recorded but not produced yet - things came up.

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The essay is "An Introduction to Happiness Beginning with the Definition of Good"

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I'm working now on an essay defining love and loving, "The Piecewise Structure of Loving"

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The essay on the definition and role of happiness is to follow.

low pumice
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Are you working on the psychology side or the philosophy side?

desert ore
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In the definition of good, primarily the philosophical, though it includes the psychological as well as the social.

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In the work concerning loving, the philosophical, the psychological, the social and the spiritual phases are all included and to one degree of another addressed.

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I think it will be the same for happiness, though I think the happiness essay will have a greater concentration in the social and the spiritual.

low pumice
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fair, it's just that the psychology/biology side tends to be a lot more annoying in terms of its definitions and its methodology, philosophy is more interesting and fun

desert ore
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These are ideas (and terms) that reside at the deep partsof the human experience and so share significantly in each of the fundamental domains of human effort and experience, the physical, the social, the psychological and the spiritual.

low pumice
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imo, other than hedonism, whatever makes you feel fulfilled is good for you, whether that be spiritual or something more material

desert ore
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Let me get the link...Here's the link to the essay on the good.. It's about 4500 words, not too hard to read, though it's not simple....

low pumice
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Probably don't have the time to read it now, but it's fun stuff

desert ore
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No content in my channel, so, it won't come up in the search or maybe somewhere near the end of the listing, maybee.

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Surprisingly, Lightemam is used by others. I thought it was odd enough to be unique. Hah.

low pumice
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My idea of general happiness is just self fulfillment, but I believe that is more 'efficiently' met with supporting others, it's harder to find happiness from within than to help others and to receive help and receive the same fulfillment.

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Hey, I thought my username was unique, until some places told me it was already taken :p

covert apex
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My username is truly unique which is pretty cool, I do not remember how I made it though

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I think it was the combination of two words from one of those "Dragon Slayer Username Generator" websites.

desert ore
strange flume
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This is a bit high level for me

desert ore
low pumice
# desert ore That's true, but it's a continuum.You disparage hedonism, yet others would not, ...

Personally, I just can't really be bothered to go deeper into philosophy beyond what I believe to be the 'practical' level, and on a more practical level, hedonism never provides long term happiness, there's lots of sources for the loss of happiness from material gains over time, or lack of interest/appreciation over time, and for asceticism, practically, it's a handicap unless you're a pretty spiritual person, in which case, whatever makes you feel fulfilled.

desert ore
low pumice
desert ore
desert ore
low pumice
desert ore
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I don't think 'good' means 'striving for perfection'. I think it means 'that which is suitable for the perfection of a thing.' Sometimes failing to strive is a good.

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Or declining to strive.

low pumice
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referring to "We therefore can define ‘good’ as that which provides new reality to a striving subject, increasing its perfection."

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The attempt to strive can definitely be good, but this part of philosophy is quite abstract and well, on the optimistic side, and I believe we find more times where we strive for a status quo, to keep our being as however 'good' we already are.

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I'm not advocating for daoism or anything like that, actions still matter, but we can't be idealist at all times

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Of course, this is just a definition of good, but I wonder if you can also define as good the act of maintaining 'goodness'

desert ore
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I agree, mostly. It is nearly impossible to always strive to be as good as one can possibly be.

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People are imperfect, cannot be otherwise.

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So, being stable, staying with a comfortable normal can be a good.

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And this is a practical judgment.

low pumice
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For a possible example, how would you approach happiness from maintenance of a craft? For example, keeping the family restaurant open?

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I think we can agree self fulfillment from maintenance of a craft can be 'authentic' happiness, but how to categorize that happiness is what is interesting for practical uses

desert ore
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I agree.

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I'm still trying to understand the structure of happiness. I don't have a proper definition yet.

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I understand it as a structure of good, where the relationships between and among the good things is also a good.

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And to make this practical is a tough problem.

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In your example, it is of course a good to maintain the restaurant, of course it is authentic.

low pumice
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btw, it could be fun to make it a bit more like a research paper, slap an abstract at the top somewhere, and then send it off to people for fun

desert ore
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I have no credentials, no one is interested in publishing me.

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But we have the internet!

low pumice
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Like you won't be able to get published in nature or anything like that, but if you send it off to smth like sciencedaily or whatever its called, or some random lifestyle site, you might get more reach

desert ore
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So, I have a YouTube channel and a world can see it. If only I put it out there.

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Well, as I said, very ambiguously, things happened.

desert ore
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The critical thing is for me to get it done.

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II'm trying to embody what I write, to live up to it.

low pumice
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A passion project more than anything else

desert ore
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This work on loving, which is almost done, is very hard for me, the happiness essay, even harder.

desert ore
low pumice
desert ore
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Would you care to read the unfinished draft of the essay on loving? It's about 3/4 complete, maybe 4/5. It has a different tone than the first, more conversational.

desert ore
desert ore
low pumice
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Parts of my beliefs stem from that while I don't have much I can say that only I can do, I can help others do what only they can do, and that can be the origin of my happiness, and there's the main origin for my beliefs around supporting others as a more 'efficient' path to happiness

desert ore
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I think I understand. That's certainly legitimate and authentic.

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not comprehensive for all people, but widely applicable, surely.

low pumice
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simple, effective, applicable, good for lazy people like me

desert ore
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What you wrote is an important aspect of loving.

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i suppose that's obvious...

low pumice
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Unfortunately, it's not something most people think about

desert ore
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Both with respect to loving and to happiness?

low pumice
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Yea

desert ore
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They are closely related.

low pumice
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In the long ago past, religion provided people all they needed, and that's all people turned to, but today, like how Nietzsche put it, "God is dead, God remains dead, and we have killed him". I have nothing against Christianity, but it's undeniable that a smaller percentage of the population today rely on religion for philosophy and morals, and very small parts of the population has turned to philosophy. That transition from religion to philosophy is what matters now, which is why I think its important for these things to be applicable.

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I have no sources right now, but I believe there's sources to say that we are some of the unhappiest people nowadays, despite all of the amenities we have access to.

desert ore
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There's a lot to say to build upon in strong agreement with what you're saying, as well as to disagree in parts. I meant to call it a night an hour and a half ago. I must quit now. Let's do continue. Someone will show up here asking about coolers and find this convo.

low pumice
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lol

harsh crow
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Anyone know if Razer's fans are any good?

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If possible I'd like to keep my entire (disco level) RGB eco-system within Razer Chroma to avoid having like 6 different RGB softwares.

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Or thermaltake's fans.

noble quarry
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dont go synapse

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its terrible

harsh crow
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Razer chroma. Not synapse.

noble quarry
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good

harsh crow
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Chroma is good.

noble quarry
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i own a basilisk, a huntsman and a kraken.. i love them but the synapse is utter garbage

harsh crow
harsh crow
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Gonna get a basilisk and blackwidow soon.

noble quarry
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if not because i need m y mouse macros i would uninstall that thing like rn

harsh crow
noble quarry
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most of the time fails to recognize the devices, keep restarting them... lot of bugs

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yeah i use them

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thats why i keed the synapse running

harsh crow
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But anyways, are Razer or thermaltake's fans good?

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I wanna get all my RGB into the chroma eco-system to avoid clutter and to keep things in sync

noble quarry
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between those i choose TT

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razer not worth

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or use openrgb

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better

harsh crow
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Any TT fans you recommend that perform close to the P14s?

noble quarry
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look at the pins in this channel

harsh crow
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Keep forgetting about that

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Thanks.

noble quarry
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👍

harsh crow
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Thank g0d there are TT fans on that list.

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I don't wanna have to use 5 different RGB stuff like I did with my current system.

strange flume
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You can use any fans with synapse btw if you use their argb controller

harsh crow
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I am not using synapse.

harsh crow
strange flume
strange flume
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It uses standard 5v argb headers

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So you can literally use anything

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And the resulting colours are pretty much the same

harsh crow
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hmmm.

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@strange flume, would you still say that I should use the Arctic P14s even if the Thermaltake Plus fans are half the price?

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$70/3 pack for TT Plus 14.
$130/3pack for P14s
US Dollars

marsh badge
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half the price, half as good

harsh crow
marsh badge
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oh wait, lemme check again lol

harsh crow
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The TT fans I'm talking about are on the chart for $20 (if you're in the US where the price is kinda fair).

marsh badge
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I don't see the plus anywhere in that chart

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In pins

harsh crow
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Pure*

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It's full name is Thermaltake Pure Plus

marsh badge
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ah ye

harsh crow
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My bad.

marsh badge
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Then I would get the tt

harsh crow
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Pure was easier for me then plus to remember.

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So get the TT Pure 14 fans then?

marsh badge
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yep

harsh crow
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Got it.

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Idk why but TT products cost a lot less in MX.

harsh crow
# marsh badge yep

Do you know if the Riing Quad fans from TT perform as good as the Pure?

marsh badge
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nah

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they're meh

harsh crow
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Ooof.

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And they looked so good.

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Plus they were actually MSRP unlike every thing else.....

strange flume
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No for quad, yes for pure plus

harsh crow
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Do you know why the Pure Plus fans say they use both 5v & 12v?

strange flume
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Not a clue lol

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I don't use them but they'll use standard plugs of some sort

harsh crow
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Got it.

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Will watch a video reviewing them just in case.

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And thank g0d. With this I should be able to keep all my peripherals, fans, etc all within one eco-system for ARGB.

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No more using 4 different softwares and trying to get them all synced.

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Okay this is confusing.

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The fans say they're "5v motherboard sync" however the site also says they can use Razer Chroma?

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.....

strange flume
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Yes, thermaltake has a sync to synapse software feature

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But if it has 5v argb it'll work with anything really

harsh crow
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So I shouldn't be worried about it not working with Chroma?

strange flume
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Nope

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You can make asus and corsair work with chroma

harsh crow
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Got it.

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Think I will get these then.

strange flume
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It's just software and ws2212(? Whatever they're called) led lights

harsh crow
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Will save me like $50.

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Hold up.

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Is there a Pure and a Pure Plus?

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Yep. Glad I caught that. Still cheaper than the P14s on a per fan level though.

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Well this is an issue.....

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The TT Pure Plus fans, only have 6 in stock.

noble quarry
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buy those now and wait for a restock

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not like you need them now

harsh crow
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True. I can always buy more once I am in china. No need for a exhaust fan rn.

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Lmao, and here I was stressing over this with like 30 tabs open for the past 5m.

noble quarry
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chill man

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raptor lake is still far away

harsh crow
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My very cluttered workspace.

noble quarry
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i see synapse... i hate it

harsh crow
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About 10 tabs open in each Chrome Tab.

noble quarry
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poor pc

harsh crow
noble quarry
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cause it loves to kill my razer devices

harsh crow
# noble quarry poor pc

xD. once I get the 4090, it'll have it's rest until I turn it's RTX 3070 into a 24/7 crypto miner.

noble quarry
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you are pretty late for that xD

harsh crow
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I know.

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Good thing is that, while BTC is only 20k/c I can buy more of it.

marsh badge
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i just want btc to hit 60k again lol

noble quarry
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same

harsh crow
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I made so much off of that.

noble quarry
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invested 5k when btc was at 16k like 2 months ago

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those will be waiting there for a long looong time

harsh crow
marsh badge
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imo i would say btc is one of the safest cryptocurrencies to invest into

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not very volatile

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at least in terms of crypto market standards

noble quarry
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but you need a lot of patience to reap the rewards

marsh badge
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yep

harsh crow
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@marsh badge, do you reusing my 3070 once I get the 4090 into a mining gpu would be good?

marsh badge
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uh

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well idk

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eth mining is ded

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rn so many algos are spiking

harsh crow
marsh badge
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btc mining needs asics

noble quarry
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btc cant be mined with gpus

harsh crow
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Wait, it can't?

noble quarry
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no

marsh badge
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yeah

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asics are a lot faster

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they will just decimate a gpu

harsh crow
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Ahh okay.

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So if I were to mine, it'd have to be for other currencies?

marsh badge
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mining rn is an unstable thing

noble quarry
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thats why i said you are pretty late

marsh badge
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im using nicehash

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they pay in btc

noble quarry
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the lesser coins rn are not profitable

marsh badge
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while i mine whatever makes the most money

harsh crow
marsh badge
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yeah

noble quarry
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aka. not profitable

harsh crow
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Hmmm. Guess I will need to do some research into this then.

noble quarry
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i guess you are right

harsh crow
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I'm used to buying low then selling high on BTC. Never tried mining.

noble quarry
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buying low and selling high is a safe way to make money

marsh badge
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My earnings dropped from daily to like

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Needing two days for nicehash to even pay me lol

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It's so bad rn

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I keep seeing nicehash switch algo on my mining rig

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Might actually decide to sell it

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Just needs some cleaning and maybe new gpu fan

harsh crow
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Hmm.

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Question, what is the difference between a normal GPU like a 3070 compared to a ASIC?

noble quarry
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like day and night

harsh crow
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I mean mining wise.'

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leaving gaming out of the equation/

noble quarry
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asic are computers specially designed to mining

marsh badge
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ASICs are like a few TH/s nowadays

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Or more, idk

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Haven't been looking at them

harsh crow
noble quarry
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while gpus are like 20-70 mh/s

marsh badge
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Terahash per sec

harsh crow
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Is there a giga hash?

noble quarry
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yeah

marsh badge
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Yah, but those are old ASICs

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And not profitable anymore

harsh crow
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1,000 MH/s = 1 TH/s?

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Just double checking.

marsh badge
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yep

noble quarry
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no

marsh badge
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Wait no

noble quarry
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its 1 gigahash

marsh badge
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It's more like 1000 GH/s

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To make 1 TH/s

noble quarry
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those are metrics man

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xD

harsh crow
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Oooh.....

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G0d that's a big difference.

noble quarry
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mega, giga, tera, peta

marsh badge
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You'd need thousands of gpus

noble quarry
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yup

marsh badge
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To even compete with one single asic

noble quarry
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while a gpu can do 40-70mh/s an asic will do terahashs

harsh crow
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So in other words.

noble quarry
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thats why you dont use gpus for btc

marsh badge
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And they're very expensive

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Like they can cost upwards to 30k+

harsh crow
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It'd be impossible to make a 3070 profitable.

noble quarry
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depends

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if you can get cheap or free electricty

marsh badge
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I wouldn't bother mining right now

noble quarry
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it will be profitable

marsh badge
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Things are so volatile ever since eth went PoS

noble quarry
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but what foxy said

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since the merge every miner is trying to get a piece of any coin

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so the coins are volatile

harsh crow
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Got it.

marsh badge
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Impending used gpu flood :p

noble quarry
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in like a week or two

harsh crow
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Will wait to mine then. And also not the cheapest but ShangHai electricity costs are pretty reasonable (I think).

marsh badge
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Many will just ditch mining altogether

noble quarry
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it will happen slowly first

marsh badge
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Mining in china is illegal tho

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Just to add

noble quarry
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when the first one gave up on mining

marsh badge
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If they catch you mining you're in trouble

harsh crow
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$0.091/kWH.

noble quarry
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so, couple of weeks to maybe a month or two

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the flood of used gpus is not instantaneous

marsh badge
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ye

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But it will come

harsh crow
marsh badge
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I would honestly buy them lol

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Cheap gpus

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I'm not scared of ex miner cards at all

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I'm literally mining here, and my gpu hasn't failed at all

noble quarry
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but the early bird will catch the worm as the saying goes, so the first ones will get the most money for their used gpus

marsh badge
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Only the fan is starting to act odd

noble quarry
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yeah, funny tho, mining cards are better maintained and less stressed than gamer cards most of the time

marsh badge
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$200 3060ti wen 👀

noble quarry
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just the media that satanize mining cards

harsh crow
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Holy $#!T, I just checked and the cost of electricity in ShangHai is a fraction of what it costs in the US.....

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I mean like a bloody fraction.

marsh badge
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cause they "stole" gpus from gamers

noble quarry
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sad indeed, they take advantage of the ignorance of the masses

marsh badge
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the situation ain't very bad like 2017

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it's bad sure but it's not the end of the world

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now we have overstock kekw

noble quarry
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and we dont have evga anymore ssadge

marsh badge
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evga saying goodbye to gpus

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too many gpus unsold

harsh crow
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Oh wait.....

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How long before my EVGA gpu stops working?

noble quarry
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6+ years if well maintained

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maybe more

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literally they can go for forever

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the fans tho, they will fail eventually

harsh crow
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Got it.

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So I don't need to worry about software issues?

noble quarry
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no

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drivers are managed from nvidia directly

harsh crow
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Got it.

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Okay, phew.

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That was my concern.

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By the way, Ravell.

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Just a thought.

noble quarry
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the only concern could be an rma in like 2 years

marsh badge
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if it's just fans i would just rely on ali

noble quarry
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we dont know if in 2 years evga will have hardware replacements available

marsh badge
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they got fans everywhere

harsh crow
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Since when I assemble my PC, I will have 3 P14s leftover from the AIO. Should I put those on my rad as well as the Pure Plus?

marsh badge
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it's painful for the us tho, cause shipping from china takes forever

noble quarry
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if your rad supports 140 then i dont see why not

marsh badge
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even shipping from there to thailand takes like a week or more

harsh crow
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So yeah.

noble quarry
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👍

marsh badge
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or just strip the shroud and slap some fans onto the heatsink

harsh crow
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and I can also temporarily make use of the Prisma Al leftovers for a exhaust.

noble quarry
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redneck engineering at its best

harsh crow
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Will be a absolute ARGB disaster.

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But it will work temporarily.

marsh badge
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it works

noble quarry
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riser cable and slap an ak620 directly to the chip

marsh badge
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lolol

noble quarry
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the dream

harsh crow
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???

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Confused.

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Riser on a CPU???

noble quarry
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no, on a gpu

harsh crow
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Ohhh okay.

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That makes more sense.

harsh crow
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Hmmm.

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I wonder what would happen if I installed 2x140mm fans onto the heatsink of a 4090.

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Any thoughts?

marsh badge
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would run toasty

harsh crow
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🥵

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Any updates on ATX 3.0 PSUs?

marsh badge
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msi launching one soon

harsh crow
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Do they make decent PSUs usually?

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Looking to getting my hands on a 1200-1500 watt PSU.

left pulsar
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Some. Check psu tier list. (in pins).

harsh crow
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Kay.

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Also dear g0d, I have been out of China for too long.

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I am starting to not understand my China people's language.

marsh badge
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their atx 3.0 psu will have plat 80+ iirc

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so that should be a good unit

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im not saying 80+ means quality, but psus of that caliber are almost always good

harsh crow
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What's the difference between single and multi-rail PSUs?

left pulsar
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Yea a psu that can do 80+ plat is generally pretty good, but ya never know. It's just common for them to be quite overpriced. Gonna be fun watching more and more ATX 3 psus appear. edit: it's like circuits in a house. oftentimes each room has a different circuit and breaker. so 1 "rail" of a psu can get overloaded and shutoff w/o really effecting the whole pc (as in turning off completely)

sacred wren
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Multi rail basically has a different "line" to each output of power I believe? It's hard to explain

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Luke or pato could explain better

harsh crow
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To put it into dummie terms.

left pulsar
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I suppose so in a way. Although you would probably lose video if a rail did fail, lol. Single rail psu is generally a non-issue overall tbh, at least for A-tier stuff & if the wattage is good.

harsh crow
#

Also I never quite fully understood this, but what's the difference between a modular and non modular PSU?

marsh badge
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Modular means you can remove and install cables how you want it

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Non modular has all cables permanently soldered

harsh crow
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Got it.

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Gonna go with modular for sure then.

marsh badge
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There's also semi modular

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But those psus are generally meh

harsh crow
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Understood.

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So generally speaking, when I buy my PC parts within the next month-two for the PSU I should look for:

  • Platinum 80+ IIRC
  • Fully Modular
  • 1200-1500 watts (for my next setup, in my username)
sacred wren
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Doesn't have to be Plat really

harsh crow
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Gold and above correct?

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By the way, do gold PSUs even have gold in them?

sacred wren
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Fully modular is helpful, and i really assume that all atx 3.0 psu will be fully modular, but semi modular is just as good

marsh badge
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Erm, well, yes

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Some gold in like chips and stuff

sacred wren
left pulsar
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This is semi mod btw, 24pin is the only 1 built in. Fully mod is really just about convenience when building. Non-mod is how things used to be, but semi-mod should be the minimum, haha.

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sacred wren
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Plat psus don't have platinum in them

marsh badge
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It's merely just efficiency rating

harsh crow
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Got it.

strange flume
marsh badge
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Plat is like near 100% efficient I believe

strange flume
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No

noble quarry
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titanium is

marsh badge
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Ah

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I forgot about Titanium

noble quarry
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not that it matters these days

harsh crow
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To my knowledge it's Titanium > Platinum > Gold > Bronze

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But I could be wrong.

noble quarry
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gold and above are like 90+ efficiency anyway

marsh badge
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There's Silver too

harsh crow
left pulsar
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......

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strange flume
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If you want a quality psu, you go by the cultists list, not by the gold/plat/titanium/bronze markings

marsh badge
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But since gold rating is full of good psus at good price

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Gold is generally sweet spot

sacred wren
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There's also white, but most of those are absolute garbage

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If not all

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That's rhe one time I'll say rating dictates quality

harsh crow
strange flume
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Some bronze psu's are far better choices than certain platinums

sacred wren
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I would not touch any white psu

noble quarry
marsh badge
#

^

sacred wren
harsh crow
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Soon being within the next month or two after release of the PSU.

sacred wren
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But we have none yet

strange flume
marsh badge
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White 80+ psus are almost always dumpster trash

sacred wren
strange flume
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Ya falcie showed me

noble quarry
#

the msi one?

strange flume
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Silverstone

harsh crow
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Silverstone one.

sacred wren
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It also takes time for Luke and the others to test the psus

noble quarry
#

yeah the hela

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ofc

sacred wren
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So it'll def be a while before we have a complete list

harsh crow
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Which by the way, it's 850w correct?

noble quarry
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for your setup, no

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most like 1200

harsh crow
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No, I mean the 3.0 PSU that just released.

strange flume
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The msi one comes out in november and I see that one as the best looking one revealed so far besides new HX

sacred wren
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It also wouldn't surprise me if early releases have some issues. So I'd wait for reviews before buying one

noble quarry
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yes, its 850

strange flume
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HX will be uber expensive tho

harsh crow
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The setup I plan to get I know will require at least 1200 watts to run stable.

noble quarry
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heck even the hela is uber expensive

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for an 850w unit

harsh crow
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Can someone explain to me why the hell I have the urge to put my 3070 into the same rig with a 4090.....

strange flume
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Why do it

noble quarry
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i can tell you but the bot will ban me from egg

harsh crow
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I brain says it's bloody stupid but my heart keeps getting the urge.

strange flume
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Just sell the 3070 lol

harsh crow
noble quarry
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do it and tell us later what happened

harsh crow
noble quarry
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for... research purposes

strange flume
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Ravell is a loose cannon

harsh crow
strange flume
harsh crow
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I wanna know now that you say it like that.

noble quarry
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maybe.... maybe im a cat

harsh crow
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Neoaw.

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You know what.

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I amm not gonna test it.

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I think I know what's gonna happen.....

noble quarry
#

good boy

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now fetch me some catnip

harsh crow
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Just gonna give my current PC to my brother after I refurbish it into a new case once I am back in China.

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And slap in maybe a I9-10900K for like $160.

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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i dont see the point of adding 3 more fans to the 3 fans already on a card... a push-push system?

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not like they blow air directly on the heatsink, the air will hit the shroud and the fans of the card

uneven solstice
# noble quarry not like they blow air directly on the heatsink, the air will hit the shroud and...

this is true.. I do however run my gpu fans at 40% when idle.. So my thoughts were..

  1. I need a new bracket anyways as the one I have is meh and the lights went yellow (in the end I cut the wire off because I didn't have it plugged in anyways)

  2. I could then just let my GPU's 0rpm mode take over and still have active cooling from the bracket thus allowing me to have the temps I want while saving my GPU fans their run time.

  3. Asiahorse

  4. RGB = 1000% more performance.

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As for point #2, I could set it to turn off when my GPU fans kick on so it doesn't create turbulence.

sacred wren
#

Fans are still perfectly fine over a year later

noble quarry
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fans have like a lifespan of 6-10 years, not something to worry about really

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you will likely replace the card before the fans fail

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to me, that is just a glorified sag bracket, nothing more 😛 those fans are just a gimmick to me

uneven solstice
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I realize that. I just am looking for another bracket anyways and the extra little bit on there makes me want it more lol

noble quarry
#

use a leggo, or a funko toy

uneven solstice
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Meh

noble quarry
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some look very good

uneven solstice
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I don't have any legos atm

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they are all in storage

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about 2 hours away

noble quarry
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well, its your money, its a sag bracket, it will do the job just fine... i guess

harsh crow
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If you are gonna buy it anyway at least make sure the fans are decent.

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And that you can swap them out later.

noble quarry
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meh, ill even remove those fans

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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unnecessary turbulence

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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the fans on the card are more than capable

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lul

uneven solstice
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Hm

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wouldn't the smaller fans be less noise though?

noble quarry
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on the contrary

uneven solstice
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or is it the opposite?

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I see.

harsh crow
noble quarry
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the samller fans need to spin faster to provide the same airflow

harsh crow
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Smaller fans = more noise to get same performance/

noble quarry
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more speed, more noise

harsh crow
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So you'd literally have unnecessary turbulence + more noise.

uneven solstice
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tbh I don't need my gpu fans at 40%, it's just that even with a custom fan curve.. it wants to automatically hit 0rpm at anything less than 40%

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You do get less air pressure with bigger fans

uneven solstice
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I would like my gpu fans somewhere around 25-30%

harsh crow
noble quarry
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again, dont worry about the fans, they have a long lifespan

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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you will likely change the card before those fail

uneven solstice
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LOL

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tfw mine already doing weird stuff

harsh crow
uneven solstice
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this has turned into a fan only convo when that's not the main reason I want it

harsh crow
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And a supporting bracket.

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i simply just cleaned it with a brush

uneven solstice
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and it started to vibrate

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like what the heck

noble quarry
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turning one set of fans off to kick another set of fans on seems like an unnecessary step to me

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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like... why?

harsh crow
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What is it you are trying to do then with this if not for reducing noise or a support? It seems we're all confused.

noble quarry
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not me, he wants them for the sag bracket 😛

uneven solstice
harsh crow
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harsh crow
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Support bracket and he thought that the fans are a bonus.

uneven solstice
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I made a list of why I wanted it

harsh crow
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Right?

noble quarry
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no

harsh crow
noble quarry
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he wants to turn those fans on and turn the ones in the card off when the card hits certain temperature

uneven solstice
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That's just the bonus part

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Main reason is for the lighting/Sag support

noble quarry
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yeah thats why i suggested to get the bracket, the argb but unscrew those fans

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they add a blockage for the real fans

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  1. Support Sag
  2. Fans for active cooling and GPU at 0 rpm (which imo is kinda redundant)
  3. Brand
  4. RGB = performance (we all know it's false but hey, let the Disco spirit live a little)
uneven solstice
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my 4th reasoning will always be a joke coming from me lol

harsh crow
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If you want a support bracket and truly want that go for it, but there are other options if that's all you're going for.

noble quarry
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not really, its cheap anyway

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but the fans are a physical blockade, an unnecessary one

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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felix shared a vertical bracket the other day with me

uneven solstice
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It's not like I was looking for a bracket lol

noble quarry
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kinda nice

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gimme a second

harsh crow
noble quarry
uneven solstice
noble quarry
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you can tilt the bracket for more airflow

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and has argb

harsh crow
noble quarry
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felix approved, so ill take his word

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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ill use that over any bracket any day of the week xD

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in fact im planning to buy it as well for my next pc

uneven solstice
harsh crow
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Is it weird I kinda want to get a RGB sag support for the sake of aesthetics since the Torrent case already has one?

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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the tilt feature was a spot on for me

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uneven solstice
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sadly it's only 3 slot though

harsh crow
noble quarry
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for more airflow duh

noble quarry
harsh crow
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I feel like it'd block off quick-access to cables.

noble quarry
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just 3 slots on the io and physical 4 slots

uneven solstice
harsh crow
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How many slots does the torrent have?

uneven solstice
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it would look hecka funky on that

noble quarry
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true true

noble quarry
harsh crow
noble quarry
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good boy

uneven solstice
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ugh, I do kinda want it though

noble quarry
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about that desk, if you like it then go ahead, but be aware, those kind of desk+case usually are custom loop cooled

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@harsh crow

noble quarry
harsh crow
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I won't be getting that desk.

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Just came across it so I thought I'd ask what you guys think of it.

noble quarry
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personally, i hate it

uneven solstice
noble quarry
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yeah, its kinda dope

uneven solstice
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although it looks like there is a perf drop with using it

noble quarry
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thats why the tilt is so useful

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45 degree away from the glass

uneven solstice
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it's looking like the pcie cable extension is the issue

noble quarry
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plus rgb and you can see the front of the card anyway

uneven solstice
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not temps

harsh crow
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Either I am blind or the Torrent doesn';t say how many slots.

noble quarry
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well, that one was referred to me by felix, he use it

uneven solstice
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hm

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Maybe he just shilling it

harsh crow
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Oh wait.

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Found it.

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7 expansion slots.

uneven solstice
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A lot of people are saying it's made with cheap material/reduced performance/pcie extension sucks

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idk. I'm not gonna get it anyways

noble quarry
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forget it, he is water cooling it anyway at no tilt xD

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hahahahaha

uneven solstice
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😛

noble quarry
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still he use it

harsh crow
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Is that a pump on that GPU?!

noble quarry
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no tilt but the pcie cable is on anyway

noble quarry
harsh crow
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What is that giant black block on the gpu for then.....

noble quarry
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well, really idk

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xD

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you should ask him later

harsh crow
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I need to ask him when I get a chance.

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It's like a cheat code to having an extra D5 pump in my system once I do Custom Cooling.

noble quarry
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well im sick of you boys, back to work

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jk, love you guys

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👍

strange flume
uneven solstice
uneven solstice
strange flume
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It worked with PCIe 4.0 straight away so I never really considered it tbh

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Right now I have a white LINKUP riser in there but that was only because I wanted white lol

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And I had a spare from before

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@noble quarry ^^^^

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The linkup ones I've benchmarked and have minimal perf loss

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But I'm liking the multi-tilt one so far, the LED's haven't yellowed like I've had happen before

harsh crow
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It links with alphacools other aio's so you can make a cheap psuedo loop without the pain of a proper loop

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But you also get a proper waterblock

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yo there's an is wolf now

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thought they only had is bear

strange flume
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Ya the names are weird man

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But it works well considering

harsh crow
strange flume
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Yup

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With quick disconnects to add other alphacool aio's to it

strange flume
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If you link an *eisbaer pro with an eiswolf 2 (or hopefully an eiswolf 3 for next-gen gpu's) you get a full waterblock for the GPU and a strong cpu block and pump for LGA1700 all linked together in a "custom loop" but also it's not really custom cos pre-fabbed lol

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Interesting.

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So it's like a cheat code for Semi-custom loops.

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Ya worryyes

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Now you got the idea

harsh crow
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Keeps temps good?

strange flume
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It does a far better job on my eagle and tuf cards yeah

harsh crow
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Because I might just get one so that I have a semi-custom loop until I do a full custom loop.

strange flume
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My 12900K is doing well too

harsh crow
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Also, this is the part I wanna double check. The GPU waterblock, does it come with the GPU?

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Or can I use like a FE card

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and put the waterblock on it.

strange flume
strange flume
harsh crow
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They have FE variants
https://www.au.aquatuning.com/water-cooling/kits-systems-and-aios/all-in-one-gpu/28491/alphacool-eiswolf-2-aio-360mm-rtx-3080-founders-edition-with-backplate

Aquatuning Australia
Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO - 360mm RTX 3080 Founders Edition with Back...

The Alphacool Eiswolf 2 is the first full cover GPU AIO waterblock from Alphacool. It is based on the Alphacool GPX Eisblock Aurora GPX water block, a pump unit and a 360mm NexXxoS ST30 full copper radiator. The latter is equipped with...

strange flume
harsh crow
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Sweet.

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Also just to double check, cooling aside the FE cards are generally pretty good yes?

strange flume
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Well they cherry pick the samples of FE core chips so generally you get decent results

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You won't get best of the best tho, not by a long shot

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Also don't expect this to be wildly better either, air cooling is very strong on current gen

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And next-gen shouldn't be any slouch either

harsh crow
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Got it. Was trying to figure out what I should get since you guys know I plan to do a custom loop or the semi-custom loop later on.

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So cooling isn't my bigger concern but rather the PCB and vrms.

strange flume
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What I mean is like, prior to me using these, my temps weren't really any worse, but I have a lot more heat soak, so I didn't really gain any boost (I kinda did on the eagle but not much) but I gained a lot more heat soak

harsh crow
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heat soak?

strange flume
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So I can run at a slightly better temp for a lot longer

harsh crow
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Ahh got cha.

strange flume
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Heat soak as in the block and loop taking in the gpu heat

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It's a higher thermal capacity over the air cooler of the card and that's really all you get

harsh crow
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Which means I can run at stable temps for longer yes?