old-cooling

[rocky wadi]

I did

Imma see if they helped the Temps at all in like

GTAV

Not exactly a precise test but eh

Is there a specific software for these fans or nah

[left pulsar]

cinebench for cpu and superposition or TimeSpy for gpu and/or cpu. I don't even both w/ top fans, but I definitely wouldn't have 1 in the 1st spot because it would suck out air from the fan too quick, hha

[rocky wadi]

Ngl I forgot to do that with my old fans

Is msi afterburner fine with these fans or nah

Amd system I'd that matters

Speed wise

[left pulsar]

AB mainly is for gpu stuff.

[rocky wadi]

H u h

[left pulsar]

AFTERBURNER

[rocky wadi]

Yes that is what I asked

[left pulsar]

my bad, felt like a pointless inquiry. AB has no cares to which case fans are used. I have the same fans btw.

[rocky wadi]

I probably asked it weirdly

So far my cpu Temps are about the same which, assumed

GPU runs near 10° cooler

Then again I am running a STOCK amd cpu fan

And it keeps overclocking when I tell it not too but whatever

It stays under 80°

[left pulsar]

YEa eventually you can swap on a $20ish ID cooling tower or something. cpu temps would drop 10+ C at Load I bet.

[rocky wadi]

When I sell my 1650 super ill get a nice cpu fan

Have a guy asking $100 for it

If it sells, what's a good amd cpu cooler?

Maybe something nicer but basic

[left pulsar]

If on sale, peerless assassin would definitely be a good one (dual tower). There's quite a few decent options that bounce around $20-35 sometimes.

[rocky wadi]

I have the 4000d, I know fan height is pretty important

[left pulsar]

PA specifically just has normal 120mm fans, probably would fit. It's 1 of the more popular models anyways, of course so is the 4000D.

[rocky wadi]

Thermalright?

Looks good

[rocky wadi]

Imma take the top fan out and try it again then

See if it helps

Oh wtf

It drops the cpu temp by 5°-6°

And the GPU another 3-4

Off note but this GPU is larger then I thought lmao

[left pulsar]

Makes the cpu cooler seem so lackluster by comparison, lol. Yea you've noticed why I don't bother w/ top fans at all. 3 in 1 out is quite good. I like a plain old straight across airflow setup, even though tbh 1 intake is on the bottom aimed at gpu. I can idle at 35c w/ gpu fans off and peak at 65ish w/ gpu fans at 25-30%.

[rocky wadi]

Uhhh

Cables might be an issue

[left pulsar]

yea push and maybe have the 2 pin spot go in slightly before the 6pin. if you feel like being less lazy than most people, doesn't hurt to use a full 2nd cable like I do even w/ my 1080. (then tie pigtail(s) to their "main")

[rocky wadi]

Better?

Its okay if the cable bends slightly right

[rocky wadi]

IT IDLES EVEN COOLER THEN THE 6600

Like a solid 10° cooler

Wtf

[left pulsar]

Partly just a much better heatsink itself perhaps. My 2fan evga 970 was similar to what you describe.

[rocky wadi]

I've heard this described as over built fan wise

I can see that lmao

msi bugged out for a sec

??????????

anyone know what causes it

Just uninistalled and re installed

Worked

[rocky wadi]

The 6700xt in both the forza and benchmark tests runs cooler then the 6600

While drawing 80-90 more watts

Genuinely impressed

[noble quarry]

well, it is a 3 fan card instead of a 6600 2 fan card

it must run cooler 😛

[rocky wadi]

I mean it draws near double the wattage

[rocky wadi]

Might nab this

Seems okay

[sacred wren]

please no

i am begging you please do not buy an h212

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwqPxr/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-peerless-assassin-120 it is destroyed by this, and similar to this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zr8bt6/id-cooling-se-214-xt-argb-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb

[shrewd juniper]

Oh god please no

That's literally a 25$ cooler at 240mm aio price

[rocky wadi]

Oh

[heady crown]

Got an aio for my strix 3080

[rocky wadi]

Would the assassin fit in my pc case?

4000d

Might get that if it's as good as it says

No tax weekend

Not too sure

Or the ID cooling se

Thing

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[rocky wadi]

Dunno what to get

It is just a 5600 I'm cooling

So I probably don't need much

[rocky wadi]

Which one yall recommend

[sacred wren]

214xt if you just need it to run without throttling, and you're not using pbo/ocing

Pa120 if you plan to use pbo and or want it cooler

[rocky wadi]

I just want it cooler

It's running at like

75° under max load with the stock cooler

[sacred wren]

214xt would probably hold it at around 65-70 for gaming if I had to guess

My 224xt keeps my 3600 around 75 max for gaming with pbo on

And im assuming I didn't do a great paste job

[rocky wadi]

pbo?

[sacred wren]

Precision boost overdrive

Basically a light oc

[rocky wadi]

I could probably run cooler if my 5600 didn't overclock for some reason

It pulls some 75 watts and runs at 4ghz and I don't know why

[sacred wren]

I promise you your 5600 isn't ocing without you changing something

That's normal

[rocky wadi]

I know

Oh its normal?

Bruh

Weird

Do amd chips just run faster if they have the thermals to do so?

[sacred wren]

That's just cpus

And gpus

[rocky wadi]

I know 75° is fine

Just kinda worrying but dunno

[sacred wren]

Dude I ran my 3600 at 87c for like two weeks with a whole ass fan on top of my pc to keep it under 90c

It's still perfectly fine

[rocky wadi]

If I don't need the cooler I might not get it

Might get like

A monitor arm or somethin

Dunno

[sacred wren]

I need to think over purchases before I make them lmao

[rocky wadi]

I know my Temps are fine but I just feel like I need a cooler

[sacred wren]

M27q-x was on sale for $330

[rocky wadi]

Weird ass feeling

I saw a nice monitor at savers earlier

Small bezel, like 19 inches

Was gonna buy it

No Vesa mount

[rocky wadi]

I only got my Q27x(?) Cause it was on sale

Best irrational purchase I made

X27q, lol

[noble quarry]

worry about a monitor? im saving every penny for rpl... 😛

[rocky wadi]

rpl?

[noble quarry]

13th gen

[rocky wadi]

No clue what that is

[noble quarry]

intel raptor lake

next gen cpus

[rocky wadi]

Ah

[noble quarry]

aiming to a 790+13700 at least

thats quite the coin

[sacred wren]

I'm probably gonna get 13400 and b660

[noble quarry]

and ddr4, yeah you will save a lot on that route

im still deciding ddr4 or 5, depending on the reviews before the launch

difference between both config are like 150usd

must be above 25% performance difference for me to consider

[sacred wren]

Yeah, if I go ddr5 it'd be for am5

Which would likely be 7600x for me

[noble quarry]

only upside for am5 is the "future proof" face of the platform... 3 or 4 years down the line and we can upgrade to a ryzen 8000x3d or something 😛

while 700 mobos are basically done with rpl

[spiral knot]

Hello. I am trying to choose between two AIOs for my build and was wondering if i can get any input from the community. One AIO is Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360, the other is MSI MPG Coreliquid k360 V2. Here is the link to my build as well for better comparison if needed: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/SyncAh/saved/L8NzP6

[noble quarry]

liquid freezer hands down

best all-around aio

[sacred wren]

Lf2

It's one of the best aios

[noble quarry]

yup

[sacred wren]

Ek technichally beats it I think

[noble quarry]

not on price thats for sure

[sacred wren]

Lian li galahad might too, not sure

Def

[strange flume]

elite does but that's through a different method of brute force and price

they're all pretty neck and neck

[noble quarry]

500usd on memory, huts my soul

[strange flume]

LS720 may also be up there, still not sure yet

[noble quarry]

still baffles me to spend 500 on memory and 200 on mobo e_e

[spiral knot]

Alrighty. I shall stick with the LF2 then ^^

[noble quarry]

yeah LF2 is a beast for its price

[strange flume]

128gb? what you need that for

[noble quarry]

well hes buying a 12900 and a 3090

[strange flume]

still worth asking lol

[noble quarry]

im afraid of the answer 😛

[spiral knot]

i do 3d modeling and a lot of rendering.

[strange flume]

not to mention it's royals which are gross on price

[noble quarry]

yeah royals...

[strange flume]

this...seems familiar...

[noble quarry]

told ya bro

[spiral knot]

i am not here ^^

Poof!

[azure crown]

wow

[strange flume]

I remember this convo

[noble quarry]

hahahahahaa

me 2

thats why i didnt want to ask

just a quick grab and run

😛

[spiral knot]

I remember as well no worries. i jsut requestioned my choice in AIO again o3o

[noble quarry]

regardless, the LF2 is a very good choice

the rest... well... you do you man 😛

[strange flume]

if you want something that looks good as well, ek d-rgb or supposedly the ls720 will be good

galahad was also mentioned

as long as you pick the ST120 version (but this has qc issues with the fans I believe)

[spiral knot]

gotcha ^^

[rotund sable]

Im definitely getting a 7800X and 7900X

🤓

[spiral knot]

Has anyone dealt with the Lian Li Uni Fans? And what is your opinion on them? im trying to switch out from the thermaltake ones: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1666873-REG/lian_li_uf_al120_3b_uni_fan_al120_fan.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjwl92XBhC7ARIsAHLl9amiboJ1ugpeLiYXGqP2AUf7R_Gu5SMyLiHAjnqisFuNckIl3m0sl-4aAj3zEALw_wcB

[strange flume]

AL120's are meh

Arctic P12 ARGB 👌

thermaltake riings are also not great performance iirc

[marsh badge]

yep

Also I would say unifans are more than meh

They're terrible for their price tag

92mm fan in 120mm

[strange flume]

sl's are the 92mm ones lol

AL's are proper size but considerably meh

[marsh badge]

ah

[strange flume]

SL's are absolutely rubbish tho

[marsh badge]

Even then they're still meh

[strange flume]

yeah

[spiral knot]

Alrighty back to the drawing board xD

[safe oak]

I'm looking for a GPU waterblock for a MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 Ventus 2x. Corsair doesn't make one and the ones that I have seen look kinda sketchy. Any recommendations?

[low pumice]

There's an alphacool block
https://www.alphacool.com/shop/gpu-water-cooler/nvidia-fullsize/28421/alphacool-eisblock-aurora-acryl-gpx-n-rtx-3070-ventus-with-backplate
And ppcs will be your friend for custom loop things, a lot more options there too
https://www.performance-pcs.com/

[safe oak]

Danke

[low pumice]

You're welcome

[magic sparrow]

Bykski/Barrow prolly cheaper, and most has a block for that (they got lots of blocks). Usually pretty good ones too, and usually the cheapest of other companies. I wouldn't spend a tiny bit more then the cheapest for a 3070 block, cuz selling and buying a 3080 isn't much more then a cheap block (if not the same)

[safe oak]

Are the Bykski ones any good? I saw a few bad reviews for them.

[sacred wren]

yes, they're very good

[magic sparrow]

Close to EK perf usually.

[safe oak]

Thanks y'all

[magic sparrow]

I prefer Bykski blocks over EK usually cuz Bykski doesnt use the stupid oval standoffs like EK does. It's a pain if a standoff comes off an EK block and gets stuck to the PCB as oval drivers arent exactly a common tool to have. Dont know why they havent moved to hex standoffs as it has no cons over oval

[dreamy locust]

How much should a waterblock cost (used)? I'm buying a 1080 windforce 3x oc and the seller will provide me both original fan cooler and bykski waterblock, for my use I won't be able and I don't need to use the waterblock so I may sell it. At what price?

I see they sell for well over a 100 bucks

[noble quarry]

over 100 as new.... used, maybe 100 is ok

[magic sparrow]

Used budget Pascal block prolly wont get much cuz demand is meh. Prolly only the premium blocks (like Heatkiller) would be actually bought for $80+. I'd take a good guess Pascal blocks are mostly being sold for $50 - $60

[night bloom]

We are going through a heatwave right now and my computers temperature is jumping up and down second to second. It will be a low of 47C and a high of 60C. Is this normal? I use a hyper 212 with a I5

[strange flume]

@night bloom what i5 specifically?

[night bloom]

11400

[strange flume]

seems a bit high, maybe a repaste is in order

how hot is the heatwave?

also if you've got a lot of like bloatware or tasks running in the background you'll be pushing the temps a bit higher than expected anyway

good way to check if you're temps aren't good is to do a proper load test with the cpu btw

since idle temps or just desktop temps aren't really meaningful

if those are like, temps during games then it's still fine

[sacred wren]

What are the gaming Temps

[night bloom]

60C

[sacred wren]

That's perfectly fine

You're fine up till 90c

[night bloom]

I found by uninstalling HWinfo that my temps went back down to 40C

I assume it was putting a background load on my CPU

Thank you guys.

[strange flume]

yeah gaming temps that's fine

[knotty sparrow]

https://youtu.be/G38vEEGbkWU

Results line up with what we already know. It's comparable to the cheaper vetroo v5.

[marsh badge]

the old ass cooler

[strange flume]

the goat (god of ass time)

[marsh badge]

lmao

people keeps buying em

like as if a design could never become outdated

or they go like "nah my cpu is running cool with this thing" despite after overspending on a cooler

that performs like 20 bucks cooler of today

[knotty sparrow]

They refer to it also as the former COAT
Cheapest of All Time
Since you could easily find that for $25 or less before, but now it's $40-45

[knotty sparrow]

You do have to admit, it still works ok on almost any midrange CPU, and it's a good guy move by CM to give updated brackets for free

[marsh badge]

true that

but i still think it's not worth buying anymore

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah now that the price has gone up and it's probably no longer produced.

The whole thing with the series was they used the cheapest fan that met their specifications for that year to keep costs down and pass savings to consumers

[night bloom]

I plan on upgrading my cooling system when I get a new processor. I think the Hyper 212 is fine for my I5 11th gen

[night folio]

why are my fans loud no matter what percentage or rpm is on?

[knotty sparrow]

If you already have the 212 you can keep it but if you're buying new look at the vetroo v5 instead, it's cheaper

[night bloom]

What would you suggest for an I9?

I am waiting till top of the line dips in price

[knotty sparrow]

In bios check that the fans are set to DC for 3 pin fans and PWM for 4 pin

[night bloom]

but I play every game with my I5 and 3060 and it runs everything at max settings 100+ fps

[knotty sparrow]

Liquid cooling, which one specifically depends

With a 3060 you're not likely to get much improvement going from i5 to i9 unless you play a lot of csgo

[night bloom]

How would I get improvement?

[night folio]

i have splitters that have 3 and 4 pins so do i go based on the splitter?

[knotty sparrow]

Whatever the fan itself has, and don't mix 3 and 4 pin fans on the same splitter

[night bloom]

Is the performance upgrade really significant moving up from the 3060?

[knotty sparrow]

What resolution is your monitor?

[night bloom]

2K

I have a Samsung G5 32 inch curved

[knotty sparrow]

No one actually calls it that lol

[night bloom]

Lol sorry im a newb

[knotty sparrow]

1080p is a lot closer to 2k than 1440p is

[strange flume]

just about any i9 deserves at least a 280mm aio imo

i9X you go higher

[night bloom]

Ok cool. I am not in a rush to upgrade but it is good knowing what should be my next move

Like I said, I play all my games max settings and it seems as smooth as it can be

[knotty sparrow]

1440p then? Yes upgrading the GPU is a big improvement. Around 25% more fps going from 3060 to 3070.

[strange flume]

11400 still perfectly capable with just about any gpu at 1440p

[knotty sparrow]

50% more fps in some games too

[night folio]

wow @knotty sparrow you are a life saver

had that issue for months

now i gotta get rid of this radiator noise

[knotty sparrow]

Awesome, glad to help

[night folio]

is it normal for water coolers to have this errrr noise? it’s not too loud but it’s quite annoying

[knotty sparrow]

Yes that's the pump

Some are louder than others

[night folio]

okay anything to reduce that?

[timid carbon]

get another aio

[night folio]

solid answer

[strange flume]

@night folio is the pump the highest point in the loop or no?

It shouldn't be but that's hence my question cos noisy pumps occur in that scenario

(let alone other things like pump failure)

[night folio]

its not, none of the staticy sound that most other people have its kind of a high pitch hum or errr noise cant really explain it lmao, some people said it goes away after like a week or two but its been about 4 or 5

[knotty sparrow]

A hum like that is definitely the pump. Cheap coolers tend to be louder. Just in case it's air trapped in there you can try tipping the PC forward/back and left/right about 45 degrees a few times each. That would move the air where it's supposed to be, the highest point in the loop which is usually the radiator.

[night folio]

its barely loud at all i was just curious if there was an issue

[knotty sparrow]

No issue unless it's trapped air. Air can cause premature failure.

At least we got the fans quieter

[night folio]

yep, and thank you so much for that

[night bloom]

But the human eye can only see 30, 60, even 120fps (Thats a trained eye with damn near perfect vision) so is that really an advantage?

[knotty sparrow]

If it was only the average fps that counted then you'd be 100% correct there, but you also need to look at 1% lows and frame rate stability as well. Ideally you want your lows to be above 100.

[strange flume]

1% and 0.1% lows are a far bigger noticeable issue to fluidity than higher framerate imo

[night bloom]

Also, latency of peripherals impact overall latency which means there are several limiters in play. I used to be really big into audiophile equipment until I realized that all this fancy new expensive stuff didnt really change outcomes- the law of diminishing returns

My ear was the ultimate limiter

[strange flume]

Sure but for most people getting deep into that niche won't improve gameplay much beyond improving skill first

If at all

[night bloom]

I agree

[knotty sparrow]

Yes, everything has its own latency that gets added to the time between when the CPU completes a frame and the photons reach your eyes

[strange flume]

e.g fastest mouse but worst grip for your use

[knotty sparrow]

And then your brain has its reaction time latency

[strange flume]

Or best keyboard but terrible ergonomics to it

Fastest monitor but terrible colours

Etc etc

[knotty sparrow]

But minimizing as much of that latency as possible can be beneficial to some games

Not a lot, but some

[strange flume]

If you can utilise that advantage yeah

[night bloom]

Well there is one good thing about all this boys- I read a scientific article that said video games greatly improve reaction times and strategic thinking

[knotty sparrow]

That would depend on what you play but that's absolutely possible. Critical thinking is crucial to games like Portal.

[night bloom]

Even rpgs improve your prioritization skills

[strange flume]

Can yes, but different games train different parts of the brain

[night bloom]

Yes, I agree with both of you

[uneven solstice]

Aye. Especially when you are a healer. Or a dps with multiple dps combo rotations that proc randomly.

[dreamy locust]

I can't find the exact model of bykski waterblock for the 1080 windforce 3x... Could you help me find it? I guess it's probably over 60€ because it's a relatively big waterblock (since it's a 290mm card), not sure if that makes a difference

[low pumice]

The main thing is just no one is really looking for a 1080 waterblock, whatever you price it, it'll take forever to sell

[dreamy locust]

I don't care if I have to wait months or years to sell it, I may also use it later if find a way to.

To use the backplate do I only need a pump and some tubing right?

[knotty sparrow]

You should have at least a small reservoir as well so you have a way to fill it, but you can just do a pump/res combo

[dreamy locust]

Ok,

[dreamy locust]

I guess I'll use a Waterloo on my mini pc build, just wanted to know what are the main things I need
Radiators - recommended for cooling 180w GPU (no CPU cooling)
Pumps - cheap ones even from AliExpress...?
Tubings, fittings... What else?

[hybrid hound]

I have an alienware m15 and 2 days ago, the fan started running at full speed constantly. I can't figure out why and what's going on, but I know that if it continues to blow this hard all the time, that eventually it's going to cause another issue. How do I fix this?

[dreamy locust]

I guess there should be a software to control that laptop fans
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/it-it/000189990/alienware-m15-ryzen-edition-r5-thermal-measurement-guidance

Is it 100% speed from pc startup?

[hybrid hound]

Not from PC startup, it starts once the OS loads, if that makes sense.

But, I checked the CPU usage and it's only 2%.

[dreamy locust]

Yeah, if it was 100% form startup that could mean the fan's pwm kinda died

[dreamy locust]

Try using the Alienware software for fan control

Or you could either use "Fan Control" which is a free and amazing software

[hybrid hound]

I downloaded a program yesterday and I was able to turn the fans off. But I wiped the program because I was afraid of the whole "manually controlling your fans" thing. I was thinking I might cause damage to the laptop if I'm manually controlling everything, because what if I forget to turn the fans on, or I'm not around to turn the fans on when the laptop heats up?

[dreamy locust]

You can't damage your laptop if you annually control your fans unless you set 0% speed for high temps, that could start damaging components since they're not being cooled

However the program may have somehow set your fans always to off, like hardware base status for the fans

It's like some RGB softwares, you set your RGB to off (hardware lighting) and then uninstall the program and the RGB will stay that way (off) forever or until another software changes its status

[hybrid hound]

yeah.... that's what I was afraid of. I'm looking at the Alienware fan control software right now. I have a dual boot (Ubuntu/Windows) so I'm assuming that if I do this, I need to add the fan control software on both OS's right?

[hybrid hound]

And will you be around in case I have more questions?

[dreamy locust]

Yep, you can use Fan Control which is better
You just set same fan curves and that's it

[hybrid hound]

Okay. Thank you.

[dreamy locust]

(from my other discussion)
I guess I'll use a waterloop on my mini pc build, just wanted to know what are the main things I need
Radiators - recommended for cooling 180w GPU (no CPU cooling), can i use a 120? 240? Are there smaller ones like 80/100mm?
Pumps - cheap ones even from AliExpress...?
Tubings, fittings... What else?
Can the pump be mounted horizontally instead of vertically?

[dreamy locust]

I guess it's possible to have it in any direction if it's completely filled with water, but I'm not sure if you're supposed to leave some air in the pump

Are there compatibility between fittings, tubing and pumps/rads, right?

[dreamy locust]

Are temps affected by using/not using a reservoir?

[magic sparrow]

Probably this?
https://www.bykski.us/products/bykski-n-gv1080g1-x-full-coverage-gpu-water-block-clear-n-gv1080g1-x

Should be about $90 - $110 on Ali, which is still def overpriced

[dreamy locust]

Doesn't look like it but no problem, I'll ask the seller what fittings it does use and other info
Could you also answer my other questions? Just wanted to know some things sice I'm new to custom water loops

And if it's worth it for the price, or i can either just put the fan cooler back

[magic sparrow]

I'd be pretty damn amazed if fittings werent G1/4 thread fittings. Should first touch up on price before getting loop details sorted out, you'd have to get some pretty good deals to make this worth it, as well as shunt mod the card (Or see if you can find any beta Pascal vBIOS modding programs out there, I know one person who worked on it for desktop cards but idk if they released it). Even if total cost is $100 for loop stuff (which is pretty cheap for rad+pump+fittings+tube+fans+shipping), if you sell the 1080 and spend $100 extra you could get a used 1080Ti/2070S/2080(S) (or maybe +$150 for a 3060Ti/6700XT if you manage to sell the card+air+block for a high price to some poor soul) assuming you live in an okay market.

[vapid blaze]

anyone have the bistpower titan one o11d case?
i gotta figure out how to remove and clean out the distro plate. just @ me

[dreamy locust]

@magic sparrow I'm getting the 1080 for 240€ (no shipping) and it has both "stock cooler" and waterblock, to me it looks like a good deal because the waterblock alone costs 120, he also used quality thermal pads and paste, (don't remember exactly which ones but paste was 40€ 2g). I'm now waiting for my 1070 money to arrive and then I'll be buying the 1080, not other cards since my mini build uses a flex ATX PSU that can't draw enough power for a 1080ti, 2070s or higher

I noticed the water loop would cost me about 100€ for some very basic one

Which is a bit expensive...

[mossy minnow]

does anyone in this server have good knowledge of what direction to place case fans for the best cooling

I currently have 3 fans blowing to the left of my case from the side

two on the top sucking air out

and one on the right sucking out

and im not seeing a big airflow difference from when i only had 3

heres a diagram

[shrewd juniper]

Honestly I'd set the one at the top front to intake or get rid of it all together

[mossy minnow]

just to be clear we're talking about this one right

[low pumice]

would not recommend top intake

[low pumice]

and tbh, that's because 3 is typically already enough

[mossy minnow]

Im gonna try reversing the top ones

and if that doesnt make it better

ill remove them

I was seeing really good results with just the right side fans and the one on the left

[low pumice]

I recommend you don't, heat goes up, natural convection

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[low pumice]

yea that's all you need

[shrewd juniper]

It's actually alright, better than exhausting cold air

[low pumice]

more fans doesn't mean more better

[low pumice]

I tried it, did not work well

my front had a proper dust filter, my top had a dinky thing

no improvements at all and now extra dusty

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[mossy minnow]

Im gonna remove the top right one

well ill just unplug it for now

I’m seeing the same temps without it installed to be honest

[knotty sparrow]

What I find to be even better is removing that top right fan and covering the vent completely, so the air has only one way to go.

[shrewd juniper]

smart

[rotund sable]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VVF6CQS/ I wonder if this would cut my finger if I accidentally poked it while it was running 💀

I kinda wanna get one

kinda doubting it hits 7k rpm though lol

https://www.amazon.com/PFC1212DE-Delta-120mm-Double-Violent/dp/B0943KZCGR/ This seems better

4.8A lmao

57W 💀

[low pumice]

Fan header going to start spinning

[rotund sable]

nah i wont be plugging it into my board's header LOL

[low pumice]

Mmm

[low pumice]

Are there even boards with fan headers that can do 5a?

[rotund sable]

not any that i know of off the top of my head lol

[knotty sparrow]

"Violent fan" lmfao

Molex adapter time

[rotund sable]

violently tear off my flesh

[sacred pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3 best cooler for $20? open to other options, just needs to be 155mm or less

[sacred wren]

Either that or 214xt

[sacred pagoda]

no need for rgb in this build so unless 214xt is better perf ill go for x120

[sacred wren]

Just by a quick glance, they seem very similar

Could maybe find a YouTube comparison

[shrewd juniper]

They're probably about the same

[dapper nova]

Are these worth getting for an MSI Pulse GL66 https://a.co/d/bsWgzup

[marsh badge]

nope

those stuff are useless anyway

just get a laptop stand if you can

the laptop being lifted in the air is the best thing you can do

other than repasting the laptop

[solemn juniper]

Kritical pads website down?

[strange flume]

https://cultists.network/8619/aio-buying-guide-august-2022/

Cultists like the LS720 a lot too

Kitguru still the only one to seem to compare it to LF2 tho

[shrewd juniper]

Reads 120mm

https://tenor.com/view/aw-hell-naw-gif-21942128

[strange flume]

[shrewd juniper]

Lmao

[timid carbon]

icue

[shrewd juniper]

I feel like it has the rest of the non psu list cultists inconsistency tbh

Like only saying this in the lft 420 category but not the others

[strange flume]

Yeah, thing is tho there's not a lot of info out about the LS720

I've been lurking on that one for ages

Just about all the ones I've read use only a handful of coolers

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah, saying best in class aio for something with barely any testing?

Sus

[strange flume]

Sometimes really dumb comparisons to like, the AK400

Maybe I should update to the new eisbaer

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

Also 120mm deepcool "can handle 200w 12900k"

[strange flume]

Yeah I saw that, idk about that

Pics or didn't happen

But glad to see another source gushing over that aio

We have a white variant now too of the LS

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/deepcool-ls720-wh-360-rgb-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler-white-ac55769

[shrewd juniper]

Indood

Good to have another good white aio tho

[strange flume]

Why does everything about this aio look gorgeous

Deepcool OP

[shrewd juniper]

Indood

[strange flume]

Buhbye noctua

[shrewd juniper]

Noctua slacking hard

[strange flume]

White when

Arctic too tbf. Need to see something new soon

[timid carbon]

in power save mode in windows

[shrewd juniper]

They probs working away but arctic actually still has a crown atm

[shrewd juniper]

200w is 200w m8

[timid carbon]

oop didnt read the 200w

[strange flume]

Yeah officially Arctic still on top for now

[timid carbon]

their testing might be laptop temps rule

[strange flume]

100C at 200W but still ok?

[shrewd juniper]

I reckon 105c

At 100% fan and pump

[strange flume]

They raised the temp limit?

Dual T30's

Sub ambient room

LS320: I gotchu fam

[timid carbon]

we put aio in fridge for a while before mounting and tested for 2 mins

[shrewd juniper]

Can't seem to find it but there was a review with a 12900k being cooled by a 360 aio or custom loop canny remember which and it was running at 105c unlocked

[strange flume]

Well yeah cos it's such a dense chip with a butthole of a bracket to hold it down lol

Contact on the IHS is such a big deal for the 12th gen chips

So much so we have these contact frames that came out to fix it

In fact I have to wonder if the next gen boards will fix that or not

[shrewd juniper]

I hope

2 ILM arms

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-work-out-muscles-flex-nickelodeon-gif-3580600

[noble quarry]

maybe intel heard the issues that were solved with the custom ilms 😄

hope so 🙏

[strange flume]

Me too, most people wouldn't know this was something deserving a fix tbh

[shrewd juniper]

https://youtu.be/jHdEqWpexH0

Anyone who recently bought an lf2 you should check ^^

[strange flume]

[marsh badge]

oof

[uneven solstice]

Where do I check this?

I just seen the video and was coming here to tag you xD

You beat me to it

I went to the website, but couldn't find it

[strange flume]

they've put a 'QC passed' sticker on the box to say it's fixed

[uneven solstice]

this is recent though

[strange flume]

but if you don't have it? I'm not sure

[shrewd juniper]

He says in video, you can check product number or whatever

[uneven solstice]

yeah but where?

like he said look it up on the website, but I don't see it

like I know the product # on my box, but where do I find which product #'s were affected?

[uneven solstice]

They put it on the rad to say it's fixed, but mine doesn't have one.

[strange flume]

https://www.arctic.de/en/lf-service-kit

here

[uneven solstice]

How do you find this stuff? lol. Thank you

[strange flume]

went to the website

clicked a bunch of places

saw the section up top lol

[shrewd juniper]

@uneven solstice should be this page but seems to be not working, im sire customer support could do the same.thing tho
https://www.arctic.de/en/support/liquid-freezer-ii-service-kit/

Oh weird

Felixs one woks

[strange flume]

3fast5u

[uneven solstice]

Looks like mine qualifies for a service kit LOL

Got it sent

[strange flume]

• smiles in P12 simping *

[shrewd juniper]

I clicked the link on the side of the website that said repair kit thingy and different link, weird

[shrewd juniper]

Magik

[noble quarry]

that ls720 seems kinda nice for the price

any thoughts on that?

[strange flume]

it's definitely good. There is enough evidence to say it hangs with the best.
I haven't seen anything yet to say it's outright the best, but it's good value for sure

[noble quarry]

yeah seems pretty... toe to toe with the LF2 but with rgb and according to some reviews is kinda loud but tolerable

still deciding, luckily the lf2 is on egg as well

but the gasket thing today held me back

[left pulsar]

From guru3d (go to their review to read more, or not). The 240 EK Predator is what looks pretty good to me, but probably louder vs a 360.

[steel tusk]

@low pumice very sad news

The lf2 things, looks like someone else here already found tho

Very sad

[low pumice]

The GN vid? Yea

I'm happy with response

[steel tusk]

I didn't see the gn vid I saw some article come up on my screen

Arctic needs to get their crap together

First mx5 now this

[low pumice]

Go quickly watch GN vid just first part is good enough

[steel tusk]

Yeah

[knotty sparrow]

They discovered the issue, developed a FREE fix kit for affected units, and contacted media explaining what went wrong and how they're fixing it. Way to not be NZXT or Gigabyte about it.

Then to top it off they sent a kit to at least GN so they could show how to fix it.

[noble quarry]

the real question is if the shelves aios on third party sellers (like newegg) will be recalled as well

or the buyers will have to handle the hassle themselves afterwards

[knotty sparrow]

If it's on a shelf look for the QC passed sticker on the bottom. If you get it from an online retailer you're rolling the dice. The ones with the QC issue should have all been sold through by now but there's always a chance.

[shrewd juniper]

Well they can send to arctic for free if they please

Although yeah does cause delays

[magic sparrow]

I assume big US retailers should be sorted out. Arctic did say they were trying to replace retailers stock

[dusty olive]

How do I disable fan controls on MSI afterburner?

Like all it does is just set it to 25 rather than 0

[knotty sparrow]

You could make a custom curve or leave it on auto

Some GPUs also don't support fan stop mode

[dusty olive]

I use AMD's fan controls

The reason why I bring up MSI is because I like their overlay more

[left pulsar]

Having Ab & amd stuff installed is probably messing w/ fan settings. Could use hwinfo osd instead of AB

[dusty olive]

But what about when gaming?

I see

[left pulsar]

I don't, lol. OSD is literally when we're in a game, otherwise we just look at hwinfo itself. Having multiple programs that can adjust fan settings or such commonly fight eachother sometimes.

[dusty olive]

Yeah I'm going with HWinfo/Radeon fan settings

[wild token]

any1 know the brand for the fans that like click together

i remember seeing it somewhere but im not fully sure the naem

name*

[noble quarry]

lian li unifans?

[wild token]

ah thanks

[rocky wadi]

Still might wanna get a cpu cooler

I'm sure the amd one will be fine but would rather run cooler then not

If that makes sense

Plus the amd cooler just kinda looks dumb

[shrewd juniper]

5600/x? it will be finee like you want damage your cpu you just might not get the full boost clocks

although id cooling se 214xt is 20$

[rocky wadi]

A good cooler probably wouldn't be too much

Well

Better then stock

[shrewd juniper]

literally 20$ ^

[rocky wadi]

Is something like a noctua worth a $30 jump?

Or nah

[shrewd juniper]

no noctua is very overpriced

the 214xt is 20$ has rgb and is good enough for a 5600x

only other jump i would maybe do is to thermalright peerless assasin 120 / frost spirit 140 at 35ish and then straight to 65$ deepcool ak620 although they are way overkill for a 5600x

[rocky wadi]

I just have a 5600 but it probably doesn't change the outcome

And a cpu upgrade isn't needed any time soon

Highly doubt there's a bottleneck

Never installed an aftermarket cooler tho

Lowkey struggled with stock

So idk

Probably not as hard as I think

I have an extra of those arctic fans

Could I use that on the 214? Or would the stock one be better

[strange flume]

The extra arctic fan prolly better tbh

[rocky wadi]

I just put it back in the box lmao

Because 4 fans was cooler then the full 5

Plus I just hate rgb

The install video said to remove those black clips on your stock cooler

But I don't think mine has those?

Whar

Did I install something wrong at some point-

I don't remember small black clips

Now I'm confused and worried

[knotty sparrow]

It's referring to this piece

[rocky wadi]

Yeah

Mine doesn't have it

From what I see

[knotty sparrow]

Oh was it a prebuilt or something? Every AMD board comes with that except prebuilt.

[rocky wadi]

No, mine wasn't pre-built

I haven't noticed any issues

Just idk

[knotty sparrow]

Well it's not there so you don't need to worry at least

[rocky wadi]

Might as well order that cpu fan

It's $20

[shrewd juniper]

If youre swapping fan you could do gammaxx 400 for 15$

[rocky wadi]

For me it's $20

Unless this is the wrong one

[rocky wadi]

Which one do I get

[strange flume]

If they're the same price then the SE

[rocky wadi]

Gotta pick up some thermal paste

[knotty sparrow]

Coolers usually come with some. It's not top quality but that makes little difference.

[rocky wadi]

Fair

[karmic root]

Is pulling air through a aio into the case better than exhausting air through the aio out of the case

[somber wharf]

Pulling

[karmic root]

But my aio is mounted on the top of my case and hot air rises

[somber wharf]

That's fine

[karmic root]

Or unless I pull air though the top and bottom of my case and push the air out the back and back side of my case

[somber wharf]

No...

[karmic root]

Why not

[somber wharf]

Negative airflow

[karmic root]

Wouldn’t pulling hot air into the case be bad though

[somber wharf]

The aio being mounted up top isnt bad

But front is slightly better

[karmic root]

I have the o11 dynamic

[somber wharf]

Jesus christ I can't type

[karmic root]

Lol

[somber wharf]

Ok so for you're case

You have air coming in from the buttom, the top pulls that air out

[karmic root]

Yes

[somber wharf]

Yea thats fine

[karmic root]

Or I pull in from the bottom and push out the hot air from the gpu on the back of the case

Then whatever’s left can be pushed out the top of the case because I will also have 3 fans on the side pulling in cool air

I also have fans on both sides of my rad

[somber wharf]

Or you could just put the aio on the side as in intake

[karmic root]

Problem with that is all the air is stuck at the top of the tubes so your not pulling as much water as possible

[somber wharf]

As long as the tubes aren't at the buttom and the radiator as to push the water up its fine

[karmic root]

At least with it top mounted then all the air evens out and the tubes would still have the maximum amount of water in them

[somber wharf]

So should have them facing up

[karmic root]

I do have them facing up

[somber wharf]

Yea its good

[karmic root]

Ok thanks for the idea I was just debating it in my head and I want me cpu to run as cool as possible because it’s basically a space heater

[somber wharf]

Yea lol

As long as you have something similar to this you good

[karmic root]

Yeah I just don’t have that front one

And my gpu is vertically mounted

But I’m to get a gpu with a 360 rad soon so that might change what I’m thinking

[rotund sable]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-satoru-vs-jogo-gojo-gif-19199327

[marsh badge]

that case layout looks like a messed up airflow

the side fans be stealing airflow

[knotty sparrow]

I thought so too at first but the radiator is side mounted exhausting cooling the CPU, and the GPU is getting fresh air straight from the bottom.

[marsh badge]

yeah fair

if it's air only setup that could be bad

and if the case lacks bottom intake

[rocky wadi]

I always thought the intake was supposed to be at the back and top

[noble quarry]

no

thats exhaust

top at least

[rocky wadi]

I meant exhaust

[noble quarry]

we cant go against physics

[rocky wadi]

I was looking away from my phone lmao

Meant to say exhaust

[noble quarry]

oh yes top is exhaust 100%

back could be intake or exhaust, that depends on your airflow config 😛

same for front 😛

[rocky wadi]

For me the best setup was
3 at front
1 at the far up back corner

Putting one at the top made it worse

[noble quarry]

yeah best config is 3 front intake 1 back exhaust

[rocky wadi]

Gonna use my spare arctic fan on a cpu cooler

[noble quarry]

the top exhaust is useful on aio rads

[rocky wadi]

That I still need to order

[shrewd juniper]

Actually

[noble quarry]

no pato dont!

😮

[rocky wadi]

Cause I am good at wasting time

[shrewd juniper]

Thermodynamics only really take affect when you aren't using a fan to push aie

Air

[noble quarry]

hahah, well we can go against physics by pushing air, but its an uphill battle anyway

better to go with the flow 😛

[rocky wadi]

But it's funnier

So

[noble quarry]

its inefficient, thats the word, it can be done ofc

[magic sparrow]

Better to care more about airflow pattern that case is designed for then worry about thermodynamics. Thermodynamics affect internal ambient temps by maybe 0.1C if you're lucky.

[noble quarry]

but yes, as long as you have a clear tunnel, everything works

intakes and exhaust

[rocky wadi]

Okay time to buy that cpu cooler

I forgot too yesterday

[noble quarry]

ak620 or bust!

im in love with that chonky boi

[rocky wadi]

People said to get a 214xt

[noble quarry]

yeah thats a good one

[rocky wadi]

I'm only cooling a 5600

So

[shrewd juniper]

Although my preferred method is this

[noble quarry]

214xt is more than enough

[rocky wadi]

Not too good looking but whatever

If it works it works

I'll just take off the rgb fan and put on an arctic one

[noble quarry]

good choice

[noble quarry]

you own mini tornado

imagine the airflow 😛

well, more like a mini hurricane, dust everywhere xD

[shrewd juniper]

i was not paying attention at all to the arrow orientations lol 1 sec

[rocky wadi]

I hope this fits in my case lmao

It probably should

Large case

[noble quarry]

check the clearance

[shrewd juniper]

fixed

[noble quarry]

thats better

way better 😛

my sister 5000x have all those 6 fans in the right orientation... along with the chonky boi

mine, only the 3 stock 😛

[noble quarry]

ill change all of them with p12s when the time comes

[noble quarry]

they are cooper coated on nickel for aestehtics, protection to corrosion and durability

can october be here already?

i want ma rig built already

[shrewd juniper]

But in all seriousness would almost always recommend top front slot be empty in that style case

[noble quarry]

i was thinking on the 5x pack 3 front, 1 exhaust and 2 top

yeah, that way

the two on top at the back top

like a 240 on the back top

to exhaust directly the cooler

[rocky wadi]

Would this be worth a $30 jump in price or no?

Compared to the 214xt?

[noble quarry]

for a 5600... no

[rocky wadi]

Or nah

Alright

[low pumice]

Worth, nah

I still like it though

[rocky wadi]

I mean it looks better

That's about it

[noble quarry]

look better no doubt

worth? no

its your wallet anyway

[rocky wadi]

If i have some Amazon credit I might nab it

[low pumice]

It's a bit better but not 30$ better

[noble quarry]

it will be overkill but the looks could buy it on your wallet

[low pumice]

[noble quarry]

for 49 nah... i could put 5 more and go all the way to an ak620 instead 😄

[rocky wadi]

Blocks ram from what i see

Atleast compared to the noctua

Plus the nocuta has same day shippin

[shrewd juniper]

That would be 6 hombre

[rocky wadi]

Let him think about it first

[noble quarry]

hmmm you are right xD

[shrewd juniper]

No

[noble quarry]

well, 3 front 1 back and 1 top a tthe exhaust of the cooler

that could work

[rocky wadi]

The J

[shrewd juniper]

The way i did it

[rocky wadi]

Overkill?

I have $20 of Amazon credit
Either 214xt for free or the noctua for $30

[noble quarry]

your wallet man

[rocky wadi]

still probably 214xt I assume?

[noble quarry]

both will do the job just the same

[rocky wadi]

Is replacing the fan on the S14xt easy enough?

If not I'll get that

[noble quarry]

you will have no real benefit goin with the noctua one beside looks

[rocky wadi]

And put an arctic fan

I dunno if the arctic would harm performance for it tho

[noble quarry]

its just taking out the clip on the stock one and putting on the p12

no big hassle

[rocky wadi]

Ah

I would assume they would preform near the same

If not the P12 better

[noble quarry]

you can do the tests yourself if in doubt

[rocky wadi]

Yeah

[noble quarry]

its easy to swap them

[rocky wadi]

Got the funny 5 pack so one just sits in the box

[noble quarry]

having a p12 on the box unused is heresy!

[shrewd juniper]

No just terrible value

[noble quarry]

they will perform the same but 30 bucks expensive

[shrewd juniper]

Yes just don't put it on, also if replacing fan, why not get 15$ gammaxx 400

[noble quarry]

he have one p12 unused

so no big deal

[rocky wadi]

Yuh

One unused so hence why I thought it would be good swap

[noble quarry]

if they perform the same then the p12 will be in reserve

[rocky wadi]

Plus it's not rgb

So

[shrewd juniper]

Oh nvm gammaxx 400 back to 20$ :(

[noble quarry]

theres a version of the 214xt non rgb if im not mistaken

[shrewd juniper]

There be not but you could probably just not plug in led header

[noble quarry]

yours is a coolermaster right pato?

[shrewd juniper]

There's 214xt but bad price

My cooler?

No I have the id cooling se224xt

[noble quarry]

oh, had the impression for the pipes

pretty similar on the top

[rocky wadi]

My ape brain keeps looking up S14xt

[shrewd juniper]

Here my pc @noble quarry
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/user/Patokav/saved/#view=TNQnpg

[rocky wadi]

I probably need to buy thermal paste

[shrewd juniper]

Nope

Comes with cooler

[rocky wadi]

(So I get the free overnight shipping)

Lmao

I'll add some $5 junk

[noble quarry]

oh yeah 224, maybe i missed the logo 😛

[rocky wadi]

Any recommendations?

[noble quarry]

damn, ballistonks

[rocky wadi]

Cheap $5 filler

[noble quarry]

i hate you pato

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-ohh-i-know-you-love-me-gif-19040818

[shrewd juniper]

you really need it overnight?

whats the free not overnight price

[noble quarry]

quite a nice pc, will hold your for like some years

thinking on 13th gen/am5?

[rocky wadi]

Have to pay $3 for overnight

Or Monday for free

[shrewd juniper]

Just do Monday for free lol?

[shrewd juniper]

13th gen yes

[shrewd juniper]

Brrrrrr, i only got them in January i really wish i got the 32gb tho

[noble quarry]

well they arent that expensive on amazon

32 3600c16 for 170

well... they are expensive

easily 3800c14 with some tweaking

hmmmm

[shrewd juniper]

I got the 3200 bin cuz the 3600 bit not worth imo

[shrewd juniper]

These sticks could my board and imc are bad and I'm infinity fabric limited to 3600 on zen2

[noble quarry]

thats sad to hear 😦 still they will rock on 13th gen anyway... sad again not to have 32 instead of 16 😦

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

Never got near 16gb of use before i downloaded cod....

[rocky wadi]

16gb was fine until I made a jump to 1440p

[noble quarry]

wut?

[rocky wadi]

Ram wise for me

That's what I deserve for playing cities skylines

[noble quarry]

well resolution dont increase memory usage... its the game that increase memory usage

games like city skylines or anno loves to eat thru memory

the bigger and longer your game is

much like star citizen loves to eat your cores

[rocky wadi]

Turns up textures from high go very high

(Barely any visual change and my frames tank)

[noble quarry]

yeah but that falls into your vram

unless your vram is 4gb

[rocky wadi]

I have a 710 paired with my 5900x

[noble quarry]

auch

that explain it

[rocky wadi]

With single channel ram

[noble quarry]

still very high on 1440p for a 710? you are a madman

i only do low setting on my games with me 750ti 😛

its only a couple more months for retirement, a true hero... almost 8 years running strong

[shrewd juniper]

Whyyyyy

[rocky wadi]

2113mhz too

[shrewd juniper]

Wait wait

Do not put a 214xt on a 5900x

[rotund sable]

Nice

[sacred wren]

Yeah, put an h212 on a 5950x

[noble quarry]

yeah i was wondering the same

[sacred wren]

Or 5800x3d

[noble quarry]

214 on a 5900?

he is indeed a madman

[shrewd juniper]

He said he was using the stock cooler, i said i assume it's a 5600x then recommend a 214xt

[rocky wadi]

Stock intel cooler on my 5900x

[noble quarry]

wut? thats even possible?

omg

https://tenor.com/view/my-people-need-me-gif-12275429

[shrewd juniper]

Wat

You sent a pic it was a ryzen cooler

[rocky wadi]

Slight tomfoolery

[shrewd juniper]

Also intel cooler wouldn't fit

Then get the ak620

[noble quarry]

i must see the pic again

yeah, thats a wraith cooler

xD

[rocky wadi]

Got goofed

[noble quarry]

and 4 corsair dominators

[rocky wadi]

Just a slight mix up of wording

[noble quarry]

well the guys took it seriously

is it really a 5900x? or just joking again?

[rocky wadi]

Nah lol I'm broke

Just a 5600

Anything more then that would be overkill

Atleast from what I can tell

So i ain't upgrading any time soon

[harsh crow]

LianLi SL-Infinity Fans Vs Cooler Master SF120 Fans.

Which one is better?

[knotty sparrow]

SF120M

[harsh crow]

Got it.

Also, are there any 360 or 420mm AIOs that beat the Arctic Freezer II?

[knotty sparrow]

Technically yes but they cost more than double

[harsh crow]

Which ones out of curiosity?

[knotty sparrow]

EK-AIO Elite

But that's mostly because of the 6 really fast and loud fans

[harsh crow]

It comes with 6 fans?

So it has push/pull?

Does the EKI-AIO Elite not support LGA 1700?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes it's push/pull

I'm pretty sure EK has the 1700 bracket

[harsh crow]

Which would be a better push/pull. Their fans or 6 CM SF120M?

[knotty sparrow]

Push/pull isn't worth the cost, it's maybe a 2-3 degree difference best case.

[harsh crow]

Okay. In a push config which would be better and also which has better rad and pump?

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic

It's only 2 degrees behind the EK

And that's 3 fans vs 6

[harsh crow]

Got it, also just out of curiosity. Say if I do try out CLC early. How much of a hassle is it to setup, and take apart?

Because I am gonna need to take my full system apart and reassemble in like 6-8 months depending on if I return to China.

[knotty sparrow]

It's not a big deal. You can leave it in the case even when you take it apart, it won't be damaged in transit.

Just a few cables and screws.

[harsh crow]

Would it be less or more secure then say an AIO if I used hard tubing?

[harsh crow]

Will be bringing it with me on the plane so to make it work within weight restrictions I need to take the whole system apart.

Same goes if I use the AIO route.

So it's really just about which is going to be a lot more annoying to redo.

[knotty sparrow]

Hard tubing in a custom loop is a massive pain to take apart

[knotty sparrow]

You'd probably save some money shipping the PC ahead of your trip. Checked luggage can be $75 or more.

[harsh crow]

Will need to double check but that would mean like 2 weeks in advance to ship it to China.

[harsh crow]

What about soft tubing?

Is transparent soft tubing a thing?

[marsh badge]

yes

[harsh crow]

How hard is it to take apart a soft tube CLC system?

[marsh badge]

erm

you're not supposed to replace the tubes on an aio

it's probably really hard to do so too

considering it's a closed loop

[harsh crow]

I think there is confusion.

I am talking about custom liquid cooling, not AIO.

[marsh badge]

oh

soft tubing should be easier

cause you can bend em around

and get a better grip

[harsh crow]

I am trying to decide if the hassle I would need to deal with when taking apart will be worth the trouble and hell I have to go through assuming CLC is the same as it used to be in the old days.

Because I need to take this system completely apart top-bottom in about 8 months when I bring it with me to China.

If I am correct for a custom LC system I need these things correct?

1. Water block
2. Pump/Res combo
3. Tubing
4. Fittings
5. Rad + fans

[harsh crow]

I know it's a lot to ask, but if someone can send me a list of all the parts I'd need for a custom liquid cooling system I'd really appreciate it. Need cooling for a LGA1700 CPU and this is the case I have/am getting.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084QH12KV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Hardline or soft tubing, either way is fine.

And I wish to go all out on the cooling solution. No bars held back on cost.

[knotty sparrow]

You'll be spending about $800-1000 on a custom loop

[harsh crow]

Kinda figured after looking at costs.

But at the end of the day I can reuse it.

So I am fine with that.

[knotty sparrow]

Some of it at least

[harsh crow]

True, I won't be able to reuse water block later on.

[knotty sparrow]

And those are the most important expensive parts

[harsh crow]

I can always get another water block down the line.

[knotty sparrow]

Are you planning to loop in the GPU as well?

[harsh crow]

Yea, as soon as I get the RTX 4090.

And the more I think about it, I think hard tubing will be fun and much more rewarding.

So I think I will do that.

note to self: I am gonna hate myself when I need to take this thing apart

[knotty sparrow]

You could use the ekwb configurator to get an idea of everything you'll need. They tend to overcharge for things but it's a good starting point. It'll ask what CPU, GPU, case, etc to tell what's compatible.

Yes draining a custom loop and crossing your fingers the tubes don't crack in transport is going to be painful

[harsh crow]

CPU: I9-13900K or KS if they make those
GPU: RTX 4090
Case; Thermaltake AH T600

[harsh crow]

I guess as both a pro and con, I will be taking this down to the bare bones and have them all in separate bags so I can bring it on the plane with me.

So no cracked tubes to be concerned about.

[knotty sparrow]

They don't have blocks for the 4090 yet since it's not out, but at least the 13900k uses the same socket.

[harsh crow]

Got it.

I know this is a dumb question.

But I must ask.

What happens if I put 2 fans behind a radiator?

Like stacked atop each other.

[knotty sparrow]

It opens a singularity

[harsh crow]

?

[knotty sparrow]

Just a minor black hole

[harsh crow]

Ahh got it.

Time to make me a black hole pc.

I shall call it the Black Magic Genesis PC.

[knotty sparrow]

But really, nothing happens unless the fans are spinning opposite directions.

Nothing gained, nothing lost. It would be a bit louder with the additional fans.

[harsh crow]

Got it.

I was just curious.

Thank you for helping me.

[knotty sparrow]

No problem. I do highly recommend going through that configurator, it's fun to see everything you can do and customize.

A hard tube bending kit would be good too, about $50

[harsh crow]

Kay, and since I am setting a budget about $1,000 shouldn't be hard to include a LCD waterblock yes?

[harsh crow]

Definitely doing that.

the heck?

[knotty sparrow]

I've not seen a custom 1700 waterblock with a LCD before

[harsh crow]

How could the Z690 Dark K|ngp|n mobo not fit the case?

The case is freaking massive.

With E-ATX support.

[knotty sparrow]

Probably cable clearance to the routing grommets

You wouldn't gain anything by going with that motherboard anyway unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking

[harsh crow]

I can't imagine that not being enough clearance.

I like that mobo since it has all the bells and whistles, good looks, and I found it for $450.

[knotty sparrow]

That case doesn't look too custom loop friendly

[rotund sable]

x299

sweet

[harsh crow]

Their CLC reference, and I can send the dimensions if you like.

[rotund sable]

that's a x299 prime deluxe 2

💪

too bad it has so much ugly rgb and a case

meshify 2 xl best case

[harsh crow]

25.39 x 14.37 x 30.11 inches

[harsh crow]

How could you....

You broke my Saturday Night Live heart....

and my Swing Music heart....

[knotty sparrow]

By not custom loop friendly I mean there's only one place to mount a radiator and you'll have to get creative with tubing

[harsh crow]

I am confused? The radiator can be put up front or up top.

[knotty sparrow]

It'll be a tight fit in the top, it's pretty close to the mobo

[harsh crow]

Oooh, that's what you meant.