I’d rather not fry my computer
#cases-psu-and-cooling
elfin trout
Just unplug everything from both ends, and then plug things in as instructed, PCIe goes to PCIe, EPS12v goes to EPS12v, etc
hazy heart
whats some good white mid atx cases that are under 100
sand atlas
whats some good white mid atx cases that are under 100
4000D Airflow in white is $105 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011201-ww
P400A digital in white is $100 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt
hazy heart
tysm
blissful thistle
P360a doesn't fit 360mm aio, does it
I thought it did when I bought it, fat rip. 280 fits atleast
weary vine
P360a doesn't fit 360mm aio, does it
it does
blissful thistle
Also what type of fans should be in the aio, pwm right?
weary vine
i looked at the p400a
blissful thistle
Ah
weary vine
ok so it can support fans
blissful thistle
?
weary vine
if you have a wire saw and tons of time
blissful thistle
if you have a wire saw and tons of time
Which p14s should I get to put in the 280?
Pwm or pst
bronze bay
P360a doesn't fit 360mm aio, does it
The new g360a supports 360 up front. Was just released also
blissful thistle
The new g360a supports 360 up front. Was just released also
Alr bought the p360a
And going through the annoyance of returning it just to fit a 360 wouldn't be worth it
280 is good enough for most cpus, and I don't really oc cpu much so I'll be fine
bronze bay
280 is good enough for most cpus, and I don't really oc cpu much so I'll be fine
Yep 280 is fine I OC my 5900x on one. I was one second away from getting the p500a and then they announced the g500a so I’m holding out now
blissful thistle
Yep 280 is fine I OC my 5900x on one. I was one second away from getting the p50...
Ye, thought p360a supported 360 when I bought it, otherwise I would've gotten the 4000d airflow for $15 more
But whatever, not a big issue
fierce pivot
P360a doesn't fit 360mm aio, does it
280mm max
fierce pivot
Does it? Amazon says it only supports 280
Just check manufacturer website 🫠🫠
blissful thistle
Just check manufacturer website 🫠🫠
Navigating some sites on mobile is annoying so I normally just check Amazon or newegg listings
If I'm on mobile*
fierce pivot
Navigating some sites on mobile is annoying so I normally just check Amazon or n...
Newegg listings are usually pretty accurate Amazons are very hit and miss imo
blissful thistle
ok so im going to be annoying real quick
the clc 360 is $80, and i have p12s already i can put in it, so the clc 280 with replacements would cost the same. I can return the p360a and get the 4000d airflow for $15 more
bronze bay
the clc 360 is $80, and i have p12s already i can put in it, so the clc 280 with...
The p12 is a 120mm fan you would need the p14s that are 140mm fans for a 280 rad
blissful thistle
The p12 is a 120mm fan you would need the p14s that are 140mm fans for a 280 rad
Yes I know
I'm saying the 280 with p14s would be the same price
fierce pivot
the clc 360 is $80, and i have p12s already i can put in it, so the clc 280 with...
Up to you, i mean 4000d is a nicer case, personally I'd probably go 4000d + 280mm so you can top mount
blissful thistle
Up to you, i mean 4000d is a nicer case, personally I'd probably go 4000d + 280m...
Is top better than front?
fierce pivot
Is top better than front?
Yeah, size matters a bit more but 280-> 360 isn't a massive jump
blissful thistle
Ah
fierce pivot
And top helps more with gpu temps
fierce pivot
So maybe I'll just stick with the p360a and top mount it?
P360a top mount limited to 240
280 in the p360a another option
You could always not replace the fans too
blissful thistle
280 in the p360a another option
Sorry one last question actually
What do you lose with a front mount?
fierce pivot
What do you lose with a front mount?
Gpu thermals suffer a small bit and a bit of gpu length room
fast dome
So according to pcpartpicker after adding everything to the list, the total wattage comes to 704w will a Asus 850w ROG STRIX White Edition be good, or should I upgrade to a 1000w psu? And if I should upgrade what psu should I go for?
fast dome
Asus ROG STRIX 3080 and a intel i7-12700kf
sand atlas
850W should be fine
mild roost
850w is enough
fast dome
Ok just wanted to make sure, didn’t want my psu to suddenly explode lol.
sand atlas
You could definitely get a cheaper PSU that's the same quality too
fast dome
I already have the asus psu
sand atlas
Alright then. It'll work.
fast dome
Ok thx
fierce pivot
So according to pcpartpicker after adding everything to the list, the total watt...
Grab an rm/rmx 850w white instead the asus strix power supplies are embarrassingly overpriced
Ahh nvm
sand atlas
They already have it yeah
hollow leaf
I am trying to contact Antec about getting another couple PCIe cords for my PSU. Their website email thingy however gives me an error when I submit that says Error. What should I do to get more PCIe cables? I'd honestly have just ordered custom from cablemods, but they don't have mine listed.
hollow leaf
Maybe try customer support phone/email?
Thats the only customer support option I get.
Oh nvm.
blissful thistle
how are the stock fans that come with the p360a?
and if i buy p14s to put into a clc 280, would it be worth it to buy the 5 pack and just use those?
since its only $10 extra over the 2 individual
sand atlas
The stock fans are "ok" but p14s would be better
blissful thistle
The stock fans are "ok" but p14s would be better
how do p14s compare to p12s out of curiosity?
sand atlas
P14s are still some of the top 140mm
Larger surface area means more airflow of course, as you'd expect
Forks had some test results pinned
#old-cooling message
blissful thistle
yeah figured they were better, curious if its noticeable much
sand atlas
I imagine yes if the case supports 140mm, since there won't be as much gap for air to escape between the case and the fans
sand atlas
Your ears will thank you
fierce pivot
Or you could just run the clc fans at lower rpm lol
steel wren
hey all im looking for a mATX sff case similar in size to the n200, cuz i can't get that one. any suggestions?
fierce pivot
hey all im looking for a mATX sff case similar in size to the n200, cuz i can't ...
Sff implies itx are you talking ab out matx or itx?
fierce pivot
its hard to find a case thats small, but also mATX
It sounds like you want itx tbh?
Because matx is just slightly less tall atx
fierce pivot
i found the fractal design torrent nano
That's itx, you're looking for cases that size?
Be warned you'll need itx motherboard
steel wren
yeah ig i will have to go itx
steel wren
yeah ive been eyeing the nr200
blissful thistle
i like the p200a
steel wren
i would have gone nr200p max which is mATX, but damn expensive
fierce pivot
i would have gone nr200p max which is mATX, but damn expensive
That's also itx
Max just comes with psu and aio installed
mild roost
^
solemn moat
So I just recommended a 3080 build to someone - will anything in the A tier of the Cultists tier list work fine for that?
sand atlas
Pretty much yeah
sand atlas
So I just recommended a 3080 build to someone - will anything in the A tier of t...
This one's always a good bet https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-mpg-a-gf-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf
blissful thistle
G6 is $105 rn
sand atlas
That too
fierce pivot
This one's always a good bet https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-mpg-a-g...
Ehh I don't recommend it much anymore because of the bad power ok, usually an option with less flaws for the same price
solemn moat
I suggested the G6, the A-GF, the AMP, the 2021 RM and the Earthwatts Gold Pro, all 80+ Gold and between 750-850W
sand atlas
All would be decent options
solemn moat
Should be fine then, I think that’s the last remaining wrinkle for this build
solemn moat
I've heard as much, which is why I've been using the PSU Cultists tier list to guide my recommendations
timid basin
I suggested the G6, the A-GF, the AMP, the 2021 RM and the Earthwatts Gold Pro, ...
G6 and RM are your best options
AGF is decent, EAPG has a bit underwhelming fan
Amp and EAPG are both stock focus, so I don't trust it 100% with ampere
distant heath
is it bad for my pc to put all my magnets on the metal side of the case
blissful thistle
is it bad for my pc to put all my magnets on the metal side of the case
unless theyre neodymium, it should be fine
distant heath
tf are neodymium
blissful thistle
very strong magnets
urban tulip
Unless you have hard nothing horrible should happen
but id still not have any near it if you dont need to, since it can interrupt the pc while running if strong enough
blissful thistle
mm
urban tulip
but in general the risk is basically none
past harbor
hard supposed to say hard drives. I still wouldn't have magnets right on my pc case, depending on exactly where.
urban tulip
Lol idk how I forgot to write "drives" 💀
tiny crystal
Has anyone here used These?
surreal laurel
what is a good psu for a i5 11600k and rx6600 ?
fierce pivot
Well i wouldn't but an 11600k nowadays but assuming you already have one, what country?
surreal laurel
O I’m asking for a friend but US
fierce pivot
But generic answer anything 550w+ B or A tier
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
surreal laurel
Ok thx
Lemme see
ASUS TUF GAMING 650W Bronze PSU, Power Supply(Axial-tech fan design, Dual Ball Fan Bearings, 0dB Technology, 80 PLUS Bronze Certification, 80cm 8-pin CPU Connector, 6-year Warranty) https://a.co/d/il82JFM this?
What is the difference between 80+ bronze and gold?
fierce pivot
Correct although that price seems too high 1 sec
80+ gold pulls a bit less power from the wall, ie it's a bit more efficient converting from ac to dc power
surreal laurel
I see
surreal laurel
Correct although that price seems too high 1 sec
It’s 55$ for me
fierce pivot
Oh good, Amazon was showing 69 for me
Just Amazon being dumb because I'm not in the us probably
fierce pivot
Np
knotty mesa
Perhaps
rough leaf
hey yall, so I’m building a pc for my buddy and he said he wants the most futuristic looking rig he can get, so the case I found was the Kediers mid tower. It looks a little crazy and I’ve never built in one before. Anyone have any experience if they’re good or have poor airflow or something? It says it comes with 7 fans which seems crazy for 140$, so idk how high quality they’re gunna be.
here’s the link to what it looks like
the comments on the Amazon one has more positives then bad, but it still seems a little curious cuz a lot of them just say like good case and no further info
surreal laurel
@fierce pivot this might be a little bit late but I found this for 20$ more
Phanteks (PH-P650G_US01) AMP Series 650W 80PLUS Gold, ATX Power Supply, Fully Modular, Hybrid Mode, Silent Fan, Revolt PRO Link Certified https://a.co/d/4UuBcJ1
Isn’t this one better because it’s fully modular and it’s gold?
blissful thistle
its technichally better, but not exactly for the price increase
if you want modular, go for the g5 650
fierce pivot
<@191276897227898880> this might be a little bit late but I found this for 20$ m...
Not worth
timid basin
Wow the g5 650 is on a massive sale
GT is the same price
surreal laurel
What is better GT or G5?
knotty mesa
Sussy g5
mild roost
g5 is fine but gt better
knotty mesa
Gt is gaming
serene siren
GT = gaming time
knotty mesa
Gran turismo
sand atlas
Nope
It'll be big news once one is, I'm sure techtubers will get samples to review launch day
lofty pewter
That said, there is one 2.31v with a 12+4P connector. The main concern with the older ATX spec and new connector is the more lax transient spec. It be some GB PSU.
Lol, seems to be only tier B and looking at reviews its transients cant hold upto 3.0 spec. Even shuts down at specific transient loads that are depicted in the 3.0 spec. So def a huge gamble to take and not worth it.
sand atlas
Right, so not ATX 3.0 compliant. Just an adapter approach.
lofty pewter
Its more then an adapter approach tho
Adapter approach basically adds a PL to the cable as the data pins arent there (this should be controlled by vBIOS of card).
sand atlas
It properly sets the 600W limit? Has this been tested?
If so that's cool but I wouldn't put a 600W GPU on a B tier PSU anyway
lofty pewter
It properly sets the 600W limit? Has this been tested?
600w with 4P and less without, heard it was apparently 450w without.
sand atlas
Yeah the max without the 4 pin is 450W using a 3x8pin adapter basically
lofty pewter
dynamic PL is enforced on the device side, not PSU, I think.
sand atlas
Yes, the GPU expects the pins to be connected and if not limits the power
The pins are mostly just ground or not connected, so it's not exactly a signal/sense
Ok, specifically, S1 is voltage stability sense, S2 says "I exist", then S3 and S4 are ground or not connected
past harbor
(Afaik) Atx 2.41/3.0 is generally a cpu/mobo thing rather than specifically gpu power, so a non atx 3.0 psu w/ 12+4pin isn't crazy or surprising. 
sand atlas
Motherboards haven't changed at all for the new spec, it's mostly new requirements for transient response and the new connector. Some other minor things too.
Maybe it's 12VO 2.0 you're thinking of?
past harbor
Ah, good to know. Hmm i don't think so, but possibly. Right, not directly related to mobo/cpu & 12vhpwr was of course what I was thinking of.
timid basin
(Afaik) Atx 2.41/3.0 is generally a cpu/mobo thing rather than specifically gpu ...
no, it's also a PSU specification
no, there's one that kinda tried... but failed as expected on the 160% and 180% transients
and the 600w limit nor the connector is an issue... the transients are
past harbor
Yea I meant I only care about ATX 3 if it specifically comes w/ 12Vhpwr.
slim venture
I got a new psu
I just have to replace it correct?
Like I don't need to use the wires from the new psu
Fal'Cie
You're goated
sand atlas
What's the old and new models? It's rare if you can
slim venture
sand atlas
lol thx
sand atlas
Yep. Happy to help
slim venture
alright well it hasnt blown up yet so im assuming everything is okay
patent pulsar
What’s the best pc case for a $100 usd budget?
hollow leaf
What’s the best pc case for a $100 usd budget?
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4000D-Airflow-Tempered-Mid-Tower/dp/B08C7BGV3D
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-EC360ATG_DBK01-Ultra-fine-Performance-Digital-RGB/dp/B08KKF38XV
fierce pivot
Over the p360a - granted it costs more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk02
hollow leaf
Over the p360a - granted it costs more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/p...
Is that new?
fierce pivot
Is that new?
fleet meteor
ok new here tryin to find help so i can get my nephews tower he was givin put back together
fierce pivot
Ask away
fleet meteor
ty ok where to start its a hyperx cube case with a GA-Z170N-WIFI motherboard and a agw550w bronze power supply
im tryin to figure out the front pannel pin placement so i can get it to turn on so i can dowload all the drivers and operating system for him as he didnt have a hd in it
urban tulip
ty ok where to start its a hyperx cube case with a GA-Z170N-WIFI motherboard and...
Is there still a motherboard manual?
fierce pivot
if you check the motherboard manual it will be there
urban tulip
Agw quite icky aswell but whatever
fleet meteor
i have it on pdf but it just shows the pins and not placement
urban tulip
Alright lemme grab the manual
fleet meteor
the hyperx has muliple connecter and not just a single for the front pannel i wish it was that ez
other than what i found online no
urban tulip
So that's from the manual
The cables from the case should be labeled
Like "pwr sw" or something
fleet meteor
they are that is what i needed now lets hope i can get it going today was supposed to have it doneon the 18th for his b-day
urban tulip
Sick, also the polarity, like which way the connector is flipped, on the power and reset switch, doesn't matter
So don't get confused over trying to find a negative and positive side of the connector for the power and reset switch
The LEDs are what care about polarity
fleet meteor
gotcha ty apreciate it been some years since i build my tower wish i still had it
urban tulip
Yup
fleet meteor
built that one in 2005 loved it cant get it anymore lol
tame cape
Why do the wattages (V×A) and all the wattages combined make no sense? Like 12×24+12×20 = 528w ≠ 456w....
Never understood PSUs wattages
upbeat dew
they are not additive, those are the max current on those lines
between all of them they cant go past the max wattage of the unit
"Like 12×24+12×20 = 528w ≠ 456w." between all of those, they max out at 456 watts, thats what the sticker is trying to tell you
if one is using 12v/24a the other line cant go full current at the same time, and viceversa cause they will max out at 456w
tame cape
So it's the same for all the other lines, if the 3v is being all used the 5v will draw less
Ok ty
elfin trout
Why do the wattages (V×A) and all the wattages combined make no sense? Like 12×2...
The 24a under 12v1 is prob ocp just on that rail, 20a being ocp for 12v2, and 38a separate ocp circuit for both rails
sharp lintel
Is 550w enough for a 6600?
upbeat dew
6600 tdp is rated at 130w, 550w provides plenty of room to wiggle but more room could be better anyway
fierce pivot
Is 550w enough for a 6600?
Yea but you should grab a 650w as there's never any good well priced 550s anyway
blissful thistle
Is 550w enough for a 6600?
Yes
past harbor
LoFabio, multi rail psu might be better, but single rail is definitely much more common. I never worried about it either way.
tame cape
Enermax Maxpro II ATX EMP600AGT-C - Alimentatore di rete per videogiochi, 600 W, 80 Plus, 230 V, EU (non modulare), con circuito di protezione a 5 ingressi, colore: Nero https://amzn.eu/d/fvDlKm8
There is cyberbron and maxpro II @timid basin
Don't know... Good?
timid basin
Again, you're not going to find anything below 80 euros or so right now
Everything below it is either the same or worse
tame cape
But do I really have to get a really good one? Coil whine for me is not a problem, had it for a lot
upbeat dew
why dont you upgrade to a 750w one?
upbeat dew
save a couple more and secure a better unit
tame cape
550w should be enough
upbeat dew
it will be more money-wise in long run
yeah, you dont need that much, but quality wise is very hard on those small wattage units
blissful thistle
But do I really have to get a really good one? Coil whine for me is not a proble...
because your entire build relies on the psu
if you get a bad quality one, it could fry your entire build
upbeat dew
the psu is almost the most important thing on your rig
blissful thistle
id say it is the most important thing
theres more to psus than just ratings and wattage
upbeat dew
unlike the gpu like much youtubers will say
a pc can go without a gpu, but not without the psu
tame cape
Yeah I know but I don't get why upgrading to a +50w GPU requires me to change to a very expensive PSU
upbeat dew
good 750w ones are not that expensive
tame cape
Find me one for 60€
upbeat dew
youll find good ones between 70-100 range
blissful thistle
<:widewegg2:903331266865295380> that's a lot
its a bit more, yes
but it means your pc wont die randomly due to the psu failing
upbeat dew
which could cost you even more
crystal flume
get anything off of the A or B tier sections
👍
upbeat dew
cv units are low c tier
upbeat dew
the lower the tier, the more prone to malfunction or even damage your hardware
have that in mind
cheapin out on your psu could cost you a lot more
tame cape
look at the pins
Ok but it takes forever to check for every PSU in mid tier
blissful thistle
Ok but it takes forever to check for every PSU in mid tier
youre ordering from amazon.de?
upbeat dew
even forever is worth to save your rig from destruction
take your time to get a very good unit
blissful thistle
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na this is A tier, its a bit expensive but it means your build will be safe
im still looking, so hold on
upbeat dew
a good psu could live for up from 6 to 10 years, hell you can even use it in multiple upgrades
a bad one could die in less than a year, and the difference could be 10 to 20 bucks
tame cape
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certifi...
Cmon 80€?
70€ I'd like to stay in budget
blissful thistle
Cmon 80€?<:widewegg2:903331266865295380>
70€ I'd like to stay in budget
it is 10 pounds extra
and i said im still looking
tame cape
it is 10 pounds extra
Yep
Difference
Thanks for looking
blissful thistle
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/jfs8TW/bitfenix-formula-gold-450w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm450ulag-7r if 450w is enough...
blissful thistle
what gpu you using again?
tame cape
2080 or 3060t
timid basin
in other words, might as well grab a 650w
blissful thistle
in other words, might as well grab a 650w
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJpmP6/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-v2-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mpe-6501-acaab-us this is the B tier one, right?
timid basin
but at this point, I've given my advice... either wait for a deal to show up or increase budget... right now, everything you'll find is at best a sidegrade
it is
crystal flume
2080 or 3060t
3060 ti is better than 2080
blissful thistle
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJpmP6/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-v2-650-w-80-...
this is an alright choice then
timid basin
eh, I would pay up for the AGF
blissful thistle
how much is it?
tame cape
3060 ti is better than 2080
Shut up
I have to see based on price
crystal flume
Shut up
I have to see based on price
…
blissful thistle
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJpmP6/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-v2-650-w-80-...
the 700w is 66
timid basin
still, it's more or less a sidegrade from the sp9
blissful thistle
didnt realize they alr had a psu
timid basin
yeah, 500w
blissful thistle
any good?
timid basin
which would probably work with it, but would start to whine because of the double forward topology
and you know... I generally like to recommend things I know will work for sure
timid basin
it's not worth saving 20 bucks on a PSU if you can spend 400 on a GPU
blissful thistle
yeah thats what im failing to see the point to hear
rmx is 10 pounds over budget
timid basin
because at best you're getting a sidegrade right now
blissful thistle
rmx is 10 pounds over budget
thats really not much compared to what theyre spending
timid basin
RMx is nice too, I just saw AGF as the cheapest option for him so far
that would actually be worth the upgrade, anyways
blissful thistle
rmx 650 is a bit cheaper i think
timid basin
if it is, that's solid too
blissful thistle
rmx is 80 pounds
timid basin
UK -> Italy is a pain
blissful thistle
so technichally cheaper but not much
timid basin
since you don't just have currency conversion right now... but also potential import costs
tame cape
Btw just to recap, 80€ PSU budget possibly, 600w/650w it's the best option for my system bc it draws about 550w (with 2080)
And I'd be also happy if you find me a (good) 750w PSU so that it can last for long and I can upgrade
I also don't care much about the coil whine unless it's easily audible
blissful thistle
Btw just to recap, 80€ PSU budget possibly, 600w/650w it's the best option for m...
rmx 650
tame cape
@timid basin
timid basin
sure
blissful thistle
not better than the rmx
i think the 2022 version is low pri A tier?
dont quote me on that
timid basin
i think the 2022 version is low pri A tier?
because we don't really know what it is exactly outside of the 1000w
blissful thistle
ah
tame cape
Cors CV650w?
I also saw it was on the list, don't know the wattage but just tell me if it is good
blissful thistle
cv 650 is C tier
tame cape
For CV there is both 650 and 750w
tame cape
750?
blissful thistle
same thing
blissful thistle
no
blissful thistle
naming random units doesnt help
blissful thistle
They're the ones I find for "cheap" on amazon.it
and theyre most likely going to be ass
tame cape
Cooler Master MWE 750 Bronze V2? V2 must be special 💀 😐
blissful thistle
the tier list is open to look at
tame cape
Yeah, but I've already told that it takes forever to look at
blissful thistle
ctrl f is a thing
upbeat dew
just use the list and look for those on amazon instead of lookiing the cheaper ones on amazon
your method will take even longer than forever
at the end of the day is your rig the one that will be at risk with those cheap psu's not us
take that into account
tame cape
Since MSI mpg 1kw is on the list could MSI mpg 650w be good?
fierce pivot
<:widewegg2:903331266865295380> that's a lot
not when youre spending 400+ on a gpu
tame cape
AaaaH
Yes but I don't really want to spend all my money and 100+ bucks on a PSU
fierce pivot
Since MSI mpg 1kw is on the list could MSI mpg 650w be good?
msi mpg a-gf, the one i linked earlier is right beside it, the other msi one , mag A-BN is bleh
tame cape
The one I'm looking at is MSI MPG A650GF
fierce pivot
its not 100, you can get the 750w mwe v2 for 72 if you dont wanna cough up another 8€
tame cape
its not 100, you can get the 750w mwe v2 for 72 if you dont wanna cough up anoth...
And they told me the mwe 750w isn't good
fierce pivot
no, they said it would be worth the extra 8 for the msi agf even tho its 650w
the mwe v2 is still good
fierce pivot
i didnt see rmx 650 for that price?
blissful thistle
tame cape
MWE 750w and MSI MPG A650GF
@timid basin one of the two, good or nah?
fierce pivot
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certifi...
work out at 90 because 10 eur shipping because theyre in italy
blissful thistle
ah
tame cape
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certifi...
It is 96€
In italy
What are the differences between cooler master bronze and bronze 230 V
blissful thistle
if theyre the same tier on the tier list
not much
unless its the diff between high pri and low pro
tame cape
if theyre the same tier on the tier list
It's just because I saw more options on Amazon, mwe apparently is among the first ones on C tier
tame cape
Normal bronze was just more expensive than bronze 230 v
blissful thistle
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJpmP6/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-v2-650-w-80-...
this one
tame cape
but theres a lot of mwes on B tier
Mwe yes but mostly gold ones
thorny latch
You'd want a gold rated PSU
blissful thistle
You'd want a gold rated PSU
false
that is not how ratings work
ratings are efficiency, and they mean nothing as to the quality
bronze psus are perfectly fine
tame cape
See, they're the gold ones, expensive af
tame cape
Gold 750w is 105€ 💀
thorny latch
Should of let me finished as well cause i was going to say to go for something more like the Cooler Master V Gold V2
I also got pinged on another server
blissful thistle
there are better psus for the same price
blissful thistle
i just searched up mwe
thorny latch
Trying to remember but the o11 dynamic can support for 2 systems right?
Trying to remember but the o11 dynamic can support for 2 systems right?
I remember the case can do 2 PSU's but curious if it can support another board in the back
tame cape
i just searched up mwe
Still trying to figure out difference between normal bronze and the bronze 230 v
blissful thistle
idk
tame cape
These are the options
thorny latch
agf?
serene siren
Not really seeing many on there for sub 70 euros just in general
tame cape
Still trying to figure out difference between normal bronze and the bronze 230 v
↑
Here
Those are cheaper but I don't know the diff
tame cape
Not really seeing many on there for sub 70 euros just in general
Only coolermaster sells them at low prices
serene siren
230V is low priority C tier, it's a lower quality unit
timid basin
ah, I see this is still going
tame cape
Still trying to figure out difference between normal bronze and the bronze 230 v...
@blissful thistle @timid basin do you know the differences?
urban tulip
Ok I'm here
urban tulip
😳
tame cape
230V is low priority C tier, it's a lower quality unit
And that is why it costs less
Can i get some pringles or popcorns?
I'm hungry
urban tulip
Hi hungry, I'm Dad
timid basin
all of you, keep your hands off my pringles
urban tulip
Who knows
🧊
timid basin
if he refuses to spend a bit extra while getting a 400 euro GPU... yep
serene siren
I would pick agf personally
timid basin
if he refuses to spend a bit extra while getting a 400 euro GPU... yep
tame cape
I think that's about as good as it'll get
I should maybe get this one instead of the MSI, I'll just compare them and see which one is better overall
tame cape
So apparently mwe bronze V2 750w is 4€ less than 650w
Just kidding, refreshed the page and the 650w dropped to 67€
Btw is better going for 650w or 750w?
urban tulip
Ooh Luke, quick question, does the power link actually do anything at all?
I know it has a couple caps but like in terms of card performance
timid basin
realistically, not really
it might filter out a little bit... but we're talking about a few mv
it's basically like having in-cable caps, but in a weirder way
urban tulip
Someone said earlier it helped them push core +10 farther than without powerlink
Stably
timid basin
eh, small difference like that is technically possible
but a good PSU will make more difference in that than a few caps in a plastic riser
urban tulip
Yea, some people here got those powerlink since they were like $4 off woot lol
urban tulip
True
timid basin
but for 4 bucks... I can understand the convenience
timid basin
neither.
tame cape
Why? 😐
tame cape
MWE Bronze v2 tends to whine quite a bit due to its burst mode
Ah
Sorry I forgor
But doesn't the higher wattage make a difference?
timid basin
no
tame cape
But what's the burst mode? And why it generates whine?
MSI MPG a650gf doesn't have that problem right? Is it a good one?
timid basin
the burst mode is not set up that well
they fixed part of the issues it caused, but not all of it
it's a decent budget PSU, but it's not worth saving 10 bucks
tame cape
So the only options that remains is the MSI one, ok
Thank you
sharp lintel
Best case $60 and under?
serene siren
blissful thistle
i second that
serene siren
Some tower coolers don't fit though
fierce pivot
Only the chonky ones like d15 and drp4 and ak620 tho
Not one you'd put in that case anyway
knotty mesa
se224xt would be a tight fit
mild roost
but it would fit
fierce pivot
Nah its a normal tower cooler height it would fit just fine
mild roost
ye
tame cape
@timid basin haha
Quad 12v rail ps from like 15 years ago
Btw Luke Im goin to buy a 2080 from gigabyte (380€) and I hate the fact that the 12v total of my actual PSU supports 38A and the configuration with the 2080 consumes 39-40A
I've also always heard that you should go for a PSU that is at least 50 watt more than your actual pc consumption, what are your recommendations? (Since ur PSU expert), can you go fo a PSU that is like only 10 watt more?
sand atlas
I've also always heard that you should go for a PSU that is at least 50 watt mor...
If you're putting in a high tier modern GPU like the 2080 then you should account for the GPU spiking up to double its rated power draw. Otherwise it'll trip OCP every time the GPU spikes
lofty pewter
If you're putting in a high tier modern GPU like the 2080 then you should accoun...
OCP generally doesnt reacts to <1ms transients tho. Smth like a 2080 would prolly have 1.3x >1ms transients and 1.6x <1ms transients
That said, other parts of the PSU such as (small) caps can easily be affected by <1ms transients
urban tulip
Smh just get a PSU without ocp
limber knoll
the word ocp reminds me of gigabytes mini bombs
sand atlas
Right? Who cares if a little fire happens, that's just extra energy!
urban tulip
Seasonic with their s12iii has actually had this all figured out for a while now, why was everyone laughing at them?
past harbor
It's funny when someone can have 1 or 2 really bad psus that are joked about(S12ii?), and be famous for awesome ones while also being the OEM for many other companies. 
tame cape
@timid basin you're PSU expert, could you explain me the many different connectors like VGA 1 & 2 and what's the 12vMBPH rail
I've never use modular PSUs and I know you shouldn't use cable extension directly on the PSU connectors because of different pin layout. So I'll just use the included cables and then use the extension at the end
past harbor
Multi rails. 12vMBPH is mobo rail, idk if specifically just the big upper port or also the 10pin. That's really odd they say vga 1 twice instead of vga 1 and vga 3, but w/e. afaik vga 2 could be used w/ a cpu cable, that's why the top 2 ports say "vga 2 & CPU". Multiple rails is partly perhaps so 1 rail could "trip", like vga(gpu), but not impact a bunch of other stuff. pic of a single rail psu for comparison. Single 12v rail is very common and not exactly bad, but multi rail I think is outright better (depending on model).
Here's a setup a really like that should be obvious why: (Super Flower Leadex III Gold ARGB PRO)
fierce pivot
That's unique and very cool never noticed that
past harbor
Yea it's this one. Had a $60 off coupon I missed. https://www.super-flower.com.tw/product-data.php?productID=117&lang=en (note people that I'm not saying this leadex is multi rail or not, was just pointing out the awesome ports.
https://www.amazon.com/Fanless-Modular-Dynamic-SF-750F14RG-V2-0/dp/B08BJZVDP8?th=1
fierce pivot
I guess it determines what voltage by what pin out is connected to it or something
past harbor
mhm, interesting. hey , B-tier 750w for $51 (for now) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08H1BXB4T/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_dl_HTV2VYTZ7V345ATB6NTK_3
tame cape
<@540962942863015947> you're PSU expert, could you explain me the many different...
@past harbor looking at the photos ^ it says 30A for VGA1, but since VGA1 is 2 VGA ports (on the PSU) the current is splitted in 15 & 15A, but the VGA2 (which is only one connector) outputs 30A, that means you can plug a male 6+2 to the PSU and have 2* male 6+2 connectors at the end right?
(You probably know that 6 pin = 75w and 6+2 = 150w. 12v × 15A ≈ 150w)
past harbor
<@742588277898608713> looking at the photos ^ it says 30A for VGA1, but since VG...
Yeah if you use a cable w/ dual 6+2 ends I pick vga 2, & 2nd whole cable would just go to either vga 1. You understand it, the 30A vga 2 port is technically good for 360w so 60w over what 2x(6+2) is rated for. That's a funny 650w. Multi rail & the port labels makes more confusion/complexity.
tame cape
The only thing is that there is not a 6+2 to 2*(6+2) included with the PSU
That way I have to use 2 long cables...
past harbor
You sure? At least 1 cable w/ 2 connectors is really common. Remember the psu side of gpu cable is just a solid 8pin block. -- I don't mind 2 full cables myself, tied together doesn't look bad. It's the "pigtail" hanging off 1 cable that's ugly.
tame cape
Maybe there is one, can't see it on the photo but it says 4* PCIe 6+2
Maybe 2* 6+2 and one dual 6+2
past harbor
Link it.
tame cape
Btw Ill use my white-black cable extension
The only thing that would bother me is 2 singular 6+2 cables instead of one 2*6+2 just for internal cable management
past harbor
Right, I think youre fine. From what I read it has exactly 2 cables & they each have 2 connectors on them. Hook extension(s) & there ya go. That's if gpu is under 230w give or take. A 3070 or lower?
tame cape
2080, 250w consume
past harbor
Mm 1 cable probably fine, and could always try lower power limit or an undervolt setup to be extea safe. Had my 1080 on 1 cable for a while & it has peaked at 240w during some OC testing.
hollow leaf
mhm, interesting. hey , B-tier 750w for $51 (for now) https://www.amazon.com/dp/...
(speculated)? b tier
Does that mean not quite sure if it should be there or not?
past harbor
Yea maybe. (For now) meant the price being temporary since it's a coupon. Often good for a day or 2 or 3
blissful thistle
mhm, interesting. hey , B-tier 750w for $51 (for now) https://www.amazon.com/dp/...
das hot
fierce pivot
@timid basin what's the meaning of speculative in the tier list btw
blissful thistle
<@540962942863015947> what's the meaning of speculative in the tier list btw
im assuming it means its between that tier and the tier below it, but i could be wrong
fierce pivot
Could mean not enough info on it idk
timid basin
<@540962942863015947> what's the meaning of speculative in the tier list btw
As in we know roughly what it is, but detailed reviews of it don't exist (yet)
timid basin
im assuming it means its between that tier and the tier below it, but i could be...
That's low priority
Kinda
fierce pivot
As in we know roughly what it is, but detailed reviews of it don't exist (yet)
Ahh yeah that makes sense thanks
tame cape
Mm 1 cable probably fine, and could always try lower power limit or an undervolt...
Always undervolt my GPUs
Btw why u saying 230w? It's outputting 30A, 12*30 is 360w
Actually my 2080 draws 215w, you can have a look at the specs if you want https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rtx-2080-gaming-oc.b6098
blissful thistle
It might be specced at 215, but I wouldn't be surprised if it spikes to 300+
tame cape
It's also a relatively small GPU, 3 fan and it's only 28cm, almost the same as my 1070 2 fan
blissful thistle
Size has nothing to do with power usage
tame cape
Right, I think youre fine. From what I read it has exactly 2 cables & they each ...
Noticed my 2080 has one 6+2 & one 6 pin, which makes sense instead of 2*6+2 because 150+75w is 225w, enough to power its 215 watts
urban tulip
My 5700xt has a 8+6 and has no problems pulling 325-350w lol
urban tulip
Merely a suggestion
tame cape
My 5700xt has a 8+6 and has no problems pulling 325-350w lol
Isn't that a bit much for the cables, that's lots of amperes
upbeat dew
yup, you are not accounting the 75w from the pcie mobo slot
tame cape
Yeah, I mean both GPU connector cables and and PSU cables are usually really thick but I never thought they could handle that much without boiling
Oh ur right, I wasn't even considering mono power
wanton briar
It's 15 amps of current
tame cape
Yeah, not 10, 10 would only provide 120w
wanton briar
18 AWG cable can carry up to 15 amps
upbeat dew
better yet
tame cape
Not the rated 150watts
upbeat dew
thats like a ton of wattage for every 12v line
6+2 have 3 12v lines
150w between those 3 is a breeze to handle
every 12v line can handle up to 180w, and a 6+2 connector have 3 of those 12v lines
tame cape
Āh
urban tulip
But yeah when it comes down to it, the connector is gonna be the weak point
Unless you have cheapo cable extensions
In which case the wire may be the failing point
tame cape
I do use 18awg cable ext
They're nice and cheap
I remember using really thin cables in my lab to power like a 140v motor
They just got melted
(actually not to power the motor but to generate power with the motor)
urban tulip
Lol
past harbor
Btw why u saying 230w? It's outputting 30A, 12*30 is 360w
I meant If a gpu was near 360w, would just want 2 full cables hooked up. I even run 2 cables on my 1080. 
sand atlas
18 AWG wires can handle around 12A at 12V, so about 144W per 12V line. 3x 12V lines means around 450W per 8 pin connector, assuming the PSU manufacturer uses the correct wire and doesn't use an extra thick shielding to make it look bigger. Even if it's 20 AWG it could handle more than the rated 150W.
lofty pewter
Remember, it's not the wire that's the limiting factor but rather the connector
rain shoal
So I got the Asus ROG Strix G15 with a 3080 yesterday and I was wondering if I could do a case swap with the Corsair 4000x
sand atlas
So I got the Asus ROG Strix G15 with a 3080 yesterday and I was wondering if I c...
I'm confused, you want to swap a laptop chassis with a desktop?
rain shoal
I'm confused, you want to swap a laptop chassis with a desktop?
Oh no it’s a desktop for a desktop
GT15 G15
sand atlas
Well that looks like pretty standard parts to me so it should work
mild roost
yep
asus does have strix g15 desktop
i got one too
it's just the lesser and smaller one in an m-atx case
ga15
sand atlas
The GT15 looks like it's still a mATX board, just in a regular case
mild roost
hm, seems like it
tame cape
"sent in the original package, the box could be damaged" -Amazon warehouse said
Ah... I see... Nice MSI box, it's just the Amazon package
tame cape
I mean..
It could have been a cool box for my collection...
I've literally put all the boxes from two computers I've built in my main build's case box
lyric glade
i got a new psu should i use one cable with a splitter or two seperate pcie cables
sand atlas
i got a new psu should i use one cable with a splitter or two seperate pcie cabl...
Ideally separate but if it's a high quality PSU (like A tier) then a single cable would be acceptable
Separate cables are good for stability even if it is a higher tier PSU
lyric glade
okay cool
scenic lance
Do they make cases with tempered glass on the right
wanton briar
There are certain cases where the entire case layout can be flipped to the right side.
scenic lance
Hmmm
sand atlas
Fractal Torrent has glass on both sides
tame cape
@past harbor the MSI A560GF includes one 2*6+2 PCIe cable, perfect
wanton briar
Oooh new Fractal case
Budget case also
Hidden 5.25" bays, I absolutely love that.
fierce pivot
Looks like a h510 flow
slate creek
I swear most budget cases that are releasing now are H510s but with airflow
wanton briar
XL version, ATX standard version, and Mini version
mild roost
i like the orange accent version tho
wanton briar
I absolutely love the orange version, I might have to do a orange build.
fierce pivot
That's actually really cool
serene siren
Old mobo + cpu + pop = good colour theme ????
serene siren
3 fans included on the pop
wanton briar
GN recommended!
serene siren
Yeah it's ticking a lot of the boxes
wanton briar
I might have to pick one up, I already have too many spare unused cases though lmao
fierce pivot
Boxes:
Mesh
Under 100$
XD
mild roost
lol
fierce pivot
240mm max aio mega sad
Is anyone else getting error 503 when trying to access the pop air website lol?
serene siren
I thought it was 280 max in the front?
wanton briar
Is anyone else getting error 503 when trying to access the pop air website lol?
I was getting the same issue.
The front can fit two 240mm fans, a 280mm rad may not fit.
weary vine
Is anyone else getting error 503 when trying to access the pop air website lol?
the wat
oh
new fractal
fierce pivot
Ye
fierce pivot
I thought it was 280 max in the front?
I think i heard 240 max but fractals site was down and i cba listing to gn vid again to double check
serene siren
In the video GN said 280 max and I looked at a couple other reviews to be sure
serene siren
oh yeah for sure
tall socket
best sff cases?
fierce pivot
Ssupd meshilicious
tame cape
<@742588277898608713> looking at the photos ^ it says 30A for VGA1, but since VG...
@past harbor ^ considering this discussion, is it wrong for the photo to say to use one VGA1 connector (15A) and one VGA2 connector (30A)? Because that way I'm going to waste 15 possible amperes from VGA2
(talking about the 2PCIe 8pin gpu)
I wonder why the don't tell you to use the 2*6+2 cable on the VGA2 connector that provides enough power for both
past harbor
Oh a card will still pull what it needs. Not like we have dual gpu. 2 ports/cables just better safe than sorry approach always giving lower load on each cable/wire VS a single cable. (Even if vga 2 could literally do 30A by itself)
tame cape
You're right, having a low load on a very efficient circuit will be helpful, maybe also for temperatures (even if PSU usually don't affect pc temperatures)
dense summit
is 750 w good for a 3080 or should i go up to a 850 w I have a 90 w cpu paired with it
past harbor
A tier 850w would be smarter. 3080 can spike high
blissful thistle
is 750 w good for a 3080 or should i go up to a 850 w I have a 90 w cpu paired w...
depends on the model of 750
also the cpu running with it
12900ks and 3080 while ocing? might not go so well
dense summit
hmm yeah i do want to oc so ill just bite the bullet and get the 850
blissful thistle
g6 850 is 105 atm
dense summit
Yeah imma cop
slate creek
A high quality 750 is fine but go for an 850 to be safe
fierce pivot
I think so
radiant bay
Ah
surreal magnet
fierce pivot
No idea but the 215 looks way better imo
sand atlas
The new O11 looks more interesting, triple 420 rads?
fierce pivot
Fancy, that didn't catch my attention tbh i just went oh an evo version of the o11 x1
sand atlas
Yep, O11D Evo XL
fierce pivot
The non Evo can't do triple 420s tho right?
edgy flume
Do I plug in both of these or only one?
sand atlas
Both
lofty pewter
Some PSU cable standards can happen. Corsair Type4 does that, can sometimes have one cable on the top and other on the bottom of the PSU. It be split up to give PSU manufacturers more options for cable placement, not as an optional thing to consumers
sand atlas
Different rails, 12v, 5v, 3.3v
lofty pewter
When next to each other
Not always
weary vine
Different rails, 12v, 5v, 3.3v
Yeah but im sure it wouldnt be too hard to make this just one cable keeping the same pinouts on the psu
weary vine
Not always
I know when next to each other was a condition for what i said
sand atlas
But then you have a really long connector, pretty sure that one is 28 pins and 24 is hard enough to get out
lofty pewter
Its a cable standard. Why make a new cable standard to accommodate a non-issue thing?
weary vine
But then you have a really long connector, pretty sure that one is 28 pins and 2...
Fair enough
weary vine
Its a cable standard. Why make a new cable standard to accommodate a non-issue t...
Just less confusion to the end user ig
lofty pewter
Manuals are cool and funni
Overall Id say would be less confusing than introducing a new cable standard tbf
sand atlas
If there was ever a time to do a new standard it would be now though, with ATX 3.0
sand atlas
6+2 works
4+4 doesn't
dusk galleon
I wanna get a new case and all
But have no reason too because my parts are so low power
I have no reason too now but if I ever upgrade I might need too
(From a 6600 to a super scary 6600XT)
Will burn the case down
I know the H510 isn't good for airflow
Just waiting for a better card to replace it
fierce pivot
(From a 6600 to a super scary 6600XT)
Not even worth it tbh, would only bother with 6700xt+
But just wait for new gen
dusk galleon
Probably will
If I played more demanding games I'd be in a hurry
But nah
Cpu upgrade prob isn't needed either
The only game my cpu can't handle is trying to max out duckstation
sand atlas
Triple 420 rads was very much needed in this world
scenic lance
My psu recently started buzzing, should I replace it? Or is it fine to use still?
heady sphinx
looking for a case for unraid build right now looking at a meshify 2 for 8 drives is this a good case or should i be looking for something else?
timid basin
looking for a case for unraid build right now looking at a meshify 2 for 8 drive...
keep in mind that Meshify only includes 6 brackets for it, otherwise it's fine for an ATX server
only other option I'd point you at is Silverstone CS380 if it's purely a storage server
the airflow is not as great as Meshify, but it includes a total of 8 hotswap bays in the front
though stock with them can be hit or miss
heady sphinx
Holds up to 11 HDDs along with 4 SSD mounts (9 brackets included)
looks like meshify is better with air flow and price
sand atlas
It’s like an electrical buzz
To be clear, coil whine is just something that happens and there's no danger at all. If it's annoying enough to you then RMA the PSU.
scenic lance
To be clear, coil whine is just something that happens and there's no danger at ...
Is it safe to use it? It doesn’t seem anything different but it only makes that noise after using it under load
sand atlas
Totally safe
scenic lance
I.e. blender, if I don’t move the camera it won’t make noise, if I move or press a arrow key would?
scenic lance
Evga w3 smth
sand atlas
Possibly. Sometimes it's a combination of the two.
scenic lance
Isn’t my gpu tho I’m pretty sure if excluded it
urban tulip
W3 is a pretty crap unit tho iirc
sand atlas
If it's annoying enough you can RMA the PSU, they'll accept the exchange and give you a different one. Might just need to pay shipping or something.
urban tulip
W3 was some andyson group reg iirc
sand atlas
But yes that's a tier E unit, "avoid at all costs"
urban tulip
But don't quote me on thay
scenic lance
Fr?
sand atlas
scenic lance
Isn’t rma out of warranty
sand atlas
RMA means "Return Merchandise Authorization" and usually means a warranty exchange
sand atlas
Probably can't do warranty then unless you can get the original receipt
urban tulip
@timid basin thoughts on w3, and is it andyson group reg based?
scenic lance
Probably can't do warranty then unless you can get the original receipt
So what do I do? Like your saying rma it tho?
timid basin
<@540962942863015947> thoughts on w3, and is it andyson group reg based?
it's essentially a downgraded Andyson Z8, so yes
but I don't like recommending groupregs in the first place
timid basin
so my answer is practically yes
urban tulip
Alright thanks
timid basin
modern PCs and groupregs don't go that well together
urban tulip
Mhmm, yeah
timid basin
Holds up to 11 HDDs along with 4 SSD mounts (9 brackets included)
6 included, 14 positions total + 1 Multibracket```
```Dedicated 2.5" drive mounts
2 included, 4 positions total```
direct quotes from Fractals' siteif that meets what you need, then meshify is totally fine by all means
past harbor
Isn’t my gpu tho I’m pretty sure if excluded it
Do you get really high fps in some games? That'll cause louder coil whine usually. Ez test is use msi afterburner or w/e & do a system-wide fps cap to maybe 400fps.
sand atlas
400? I do 200 global and unlimit certain games
No point really going higher unless you have a monitor that refreshes that fast
past harbor
Yea it doesn't really matter. Even if I punch in 999 AB flicks it to 480, haha. Tbh I think I run 170fps global & just uncap certain things same as you (3dmark, w/e)
sand atlas
Going a little higher than monitor refresh can be good so your lows are close to the refresh rate too
past harbor
Yea I think that's a decent one. G6 might still be $90 if they want to do that extra $.
blissful thistle
Kk thanks
sand atlas
Nice B tier unit yep
blissful thistle
I know g6 is great, all the other evga g_ I get mixed up
sand atlas
They do have pretty confusing names
past harbor
G+ & G5 also B tier, yea. That GT I think is slightly better though, or at least the G5 isn't the best transient loads & I sold it. Currently G3 is my main & G+ is my spare. $50 couldn't say no.
sand atlas
GA is low B due to OCP issues with high tier GPUs
G3 is low A because of thin wires I think
past harbor
Yea it's 650w & the most it'll see is the 1080 & 3770, haha. By the time I get new gpu I bet options w/ the 12+4pin will be quite common, or I'll likely just get a G6. Sales of course vary all the time.
timid basin
GA is low B due to OCP issues with high tier GPUs
And because I'm waiting for reviews on it
sand atlas
Ah I was going by the note
timid basin
GT is decent, G+ and G5 are fine if they're dirt cheap, GA is fine on paper and G2 is discontinued
timid basin
yeah, it's not bad at all
upbeat dew
i have a ga paired iwth a 3060ti for 6 months by now... no problems so far
sad thing to hear about the tripping issues with high end gpu spikes
urban tulip
yeah 3060ti wouldnt cause issues
urban tulip
Yeah
upbeat dew
love mine, quiet so far as well, sad thing that i got mine overpirced but w/e
scenic lance
Do you get really high fps in some games? That'll cause louder coil whine usuall...
Blender could make it buzz and I hadn’t done much on it to begin with, it wouldn’t even make a buzz sound until I started moving the camera too
Is it safe to use my pc still? I don’t want my data corrupting or smth like that
sand atlas
Yeah it's as safe to use now as it was before
scenic lance
Bet thankz
viscid patrol
crap wrong channel
lucid solar
does anyone know any good micro atx cases that are good quality
sand atlas
Depends how big you're able to go but mx330-g is generally good
lucid solar
oo thanks that case looks amazing
blissful thistle
ah
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDhmP6/cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b311l-kgnn-s02 oh i forgot this case existed
cable management is worse in it, but if you wanted the smaller tower that works
timid basin
I mean, if he's looking for smaller, there's SAMA
blissful thistle
ah
fierce pivot
Pretty sure there is an n200 that's like nr200 but matx
timid basin
Pretty sure there is an n200 that's like nr200 but matx
Nr200p max can't fit matx, if that's what you mean
timid basin
Ah, wouldn't really call that close to nr200 however
And yeah, but I like the sama for good reason
Similar layout, but can comfortably fit both an ATX PSU and an matx mobo
While only being around 22 liters in total
timid basin
Yeah, it's what sffpc often uses as basic indication
and technically gatekeepers would say only sub-20l counts as sff, but who cares
blissful thistle
ah
sick viper
I wouldn’t be doing a pelican case project if there wasn’t an osbourne-I-style case that existed
A case with a screen and keyboard included and built into it
sick viper
Not even sure how I would be able to extend all the ports on the graphics card since it may get tucked in a little bit in what I want to do
Probably just use some sort of grommet
serene siren
sand atlas
That's nothing, have you seen some of the 3D printed cases you can download?
You can do things that are impossible with metal
serene siren
I would love ideas honestly. I seriously want to do open case next-gen
I've liked the look of this one for a long time
sand atlas
serene siren
serene siren
that's an interesting one but I really want the theme of like, detached from a complete box sorta look
I got another one, one sec
sand atlas
Here's a weird one
serene siren
serene siren
Here's a weird one
weird yeah but that's more like it lol
I can't find a lot on this stuff, the xproto ones looking like the best fit for me so far
sand atlas
serene siren
sand atlas
Yeah a bench "case" like that would be fun
atomic moon
Im excited to try it out, should be useful for lots of testing
serene siren
actually in black I like both of those
past harbor
Now that's a nice value(not incl printer and "ink, of course). "It took 45h and 650g of filament to print on my printer." oh snap, better not be in a hurry for it huh. I'm a procrastinator, but I want to just build a similarly designed bench table out of some decent 1/4" thick oak or something.
---sure is neat printing solid stuff like that. --I was lookin at the goodbench one. 🙂
atomic moon
The goodbench used 700g of filament though, so its not very cheap
serene siren
the printing bit wouldn't worry me if I can find a way to get it done without buying one
sand atlas
There's printers you can "rent" and they'll print a project for you for a fee
past harbor
Oh heck yea i'd easily pay $20ish for the goodbench file if needed and a similar printing fee. Doing construction so much and having a carpenter roommate also, easy to also have various wood pieces around. Funny how we can all maybe work 60+ hr weeks then be "lazy" in other ways.
atomic moon
As someone who's ran a printing service before, that file isn't necessarily cheap to print, maybe if you have a buddy though
serene siren
that's fine though honestly. I'd rather just pay the commission if I did decide on one of those
I don't have a lot of storage spare lol
hybrid robin
is b5 evga bronze good?
serene siren
tier c so no
good enough for a few things but wouldn't use it say with that 3080 in ur name lol
blissful thistle
its 30$ more expensive in my area rn
Which is how much?
I'll take a look at other psus for you
Asus tuf 550 is $63 cad and more than enough for the 3060 and 12400
urban tulip
for good units, this is the cheapest decent one im finding in cad
my pcpp must be bugged cause tuf isnt even showing on here lol
hybrid robin
Which is how much?
and not avail
i try to get my pc parts local since i dont have to pay for shipping
serene siren
I just wouldn't even unless the amazon shipping costs more
blissful thistle
its 125 on memex where im getting my parts
That is terribly priced
serene siren
ill prob just buy the b5 750w just extra headroom maybe for an upgrade or two
buy this if you must go memory express
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX78764
don't get the b5, even the ag-f at 650w is the same price and it's tier a
a g5 650w will be better at 79
hybrid robin
not avail in my area* or out of stock
minor portalBOT
FlexibleFelix#0713 has been warned
serene siren
ah man
serene siren
not avail in my area* or out of stock
or this in black or white https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00114416
otherwise just no, just go with amazon tuf. B5 just not a great idea
normal shadow
Has anyone ever had the Coolermaster TD500 or Corsair 465x?
serene siren
@normal shadow I've had the 465x, what did you want to know about it?