cases-psu-and-cooling

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QX3gXL/phanteks-amp-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g

Technically speaking, for airflow and temps 5000D

[hoary epoch]

cooling and airflow performance corsair for more aesthtics 011D

[sand atlas]

O11D also has lots of distro plate options for liquid cooling fun

Makes for a good custom loop case

[wooden sedge]

i was asking because i saw someone on tiktok saying how the 011d is better than any other case for ashetics and for looks and i was confused

[sand atlas]

It's the glass panels people like the most about it tbh. Bad for airflow but looks cool with a full set of rgb.

[hoary epoch]

alright ill get that psu friday

[wooden sedge]

it would be good if it had a front panel like a 4000/5000D

[sand atlas]

There's a mesh panel mod for the O11D

[hoary epoch]

actually is there a place that i can just buy 8 pin cpu cables

cause i need two

[sand atlas]

The cables or extensions? If the cables themselves what psu exactly?

[hoary epoch]

Seasonic focus GX-1000 and the cables themselves for 8 pin cpu

[sand atlas]

Seasonic doesn't officially sell their cables so it looks like ebay/amazon is your only option

[hoary epoch]

rip

[past harbor]

It's actually mind boggling not being able to easily buy extra/replacement cables for most (mod) psus. No doubt compatibility or buyer stupidity could be a factor though.

[worldly dust]

I'm going to go with buyer stupidity being a large factor lol

[sand atlas]

You've seen Corsair's cable compatibility chart right? It's stupid how complex it is

[past harbor]

I haven't, but I can imagine. Yeah, psu makers can't just have the port/cables be like how extensions are. 🧠

[past harbor]

Lol, just throw any "standard" out the window. Make us buy a new psu if we lose a few cables.

[sand atlas]

The issue with Corsair cables is they include resistors in the cables themselves, so they need very specific cables to avoid shorts and over-voltage and such

[past harbor]

Yikes, that sure is some extra complexity indeed. Interesting

[sand atlas]

At least corsair has things like the special 12 pin cable for FE 30 series GPUs

I actually got better benchmark scores using that cable too, about 100 points on time spy. Shorter cable means better voltage regulation or something.

[worldly dust]

plus when you are a manufacturer you want to limit the ways your product can hospitalize people lol

[past harbor]

Many psus dont need those wack special cables w/ the extra stuff inside them though, lol. I do however understand lower voltage drop and such w/ shorter cables. 🤘 Also I enabled that GPedit about not seeing the welcome screen w/ a pin needed, Thnx.

[worldly dust]

lol

maybe eventually they will just all be usb c ports in the PSUs

[buoyant mountain]

Uh hello recently building a pc and i need help does anyone know what Cases Like The lian li o11 dynamic and the antec p120 crystal is or like the style is called the design fan placement etc like i dont know if its just a specific model or they have a name

or generally how to find cases like those

[worldly dust]

the o11 is nice looking but they are both terrible for airflow

[past harbor]

🧠 🧠 🧠

[elfin trout]

You like the fans on the side? try 5000d airflow

[worldly dust]

the style is just tempered glass front and side

[elfin trout]

I mean, corsair already has a usb port on higher end PSUs, so I guess Corsair is taking the lead

[sand atlas]

They're trying to move to 12VO as the standard

[past harbor]

for charging an old school phone from the psu? haha. Nah, we just need psu ports to be exactly like what a normal extension is. 12V0?

[worldly dust]

well and since the usb c can do 12v 5amp its already doing enough

now of course as far as how clean it would be and how thick the cables would need to be...

[elfin trout]

USB PD is supposed to be 240w max at 48v

[sand atlas]

12VO means the power supply only converts AC input to 12V, and the motherboard converts to lower voltage as needed. It's way more efficient.

[worldly dust]

any word on amps?

[sand atlas]

I believe that's at 20V so 12A

[elfin trout]

just going to quickly link
https://www.usb.org/usb-charger-pd

[worldly dust]

that would hurt

[sand atlas]

Oh wait you said 48V

That's more like 5A

[elfin trout]

staying at 5a makes sense for most usb cables

[worldly dust]

and not electricuting users 😉

[elfin trout]

indeed

[worldly dust]

I knocked myself unconscious once

touched a capacitor in an old CRT monitor that had been unplugged for at least 30 minutes

[elfin trout]

not good

[worldly dust]

certainly caught me unaware

[wild coral]

I’m an electrician. I’ve been hit by 120V way more than I’d like to admit

[worldly dust]

lucky for you thats alternating 😉

[past harbor]

I've heard it takes much longer than 30 mins, and wouldn't dare mess around inside a CRT.

[wild coral]

Yeah Dc is a whole other animal

[worldly dust]

you heard right 30 minutes was not safe lol

[past harbor]

Mythbusters right here folks

[worldly dust]

I mean I was only unconscious for less than a minute but it sure scared the heck out of me

[wild coral]

I often work with vfd’s that have a 6 pack of capacitors that look like a 6 pack of beer. Those things scare the bejesus out of me

[worldly dust]

I gave up on an electric motor project after I kept getting arcs off 4 12v car batteries in series that was a little more than I was looking to mess with

[worldly dust]

Im only a psuedo electrician I'm an ECE

they only teach us enough about electricity to be dangerous

[wild coral]

I’m no electrical enginerd myself. I just know how to diagnose a bad circuit lol

[worldly dust]

I'm not even that either lol electrical computer engineer so just a little bit of electrical engineer, a little electrician, and a lot of computer science

[sand atlas]

I can read a schematic but that's about it lol.
The most complex project I've done is a solar powered jack o' lantern that plays sounds

With a breadboard and programmable controller

[worldly dust]

I use breadboards almost everyday

[wild coral]

I’m just breaking into this whole computer science thing. It’s a whole new world.

[ember hound]

I still don’t know what I need for my front fans to light up, I don’t have a compatible motherboard and the Phanteks controller doesn’t look like it has the 3 pin I need

i think there was another controller out there that would work

i think this?

[elfin trout]

P500a front fans? They might be Daisy chained, but there's a small controller thing at the top of the front of the case

[slate creek]

It ain’t fun, happened to me like maybe 3-4 months ago

Getting zapped by DC on the other hand is a whole other level is pain, I don’t recommend it

[fierce pivot]

This why uk plug best plug

[slate creek]

Ok Mr 220V

[fierce pivot]

Nono not even that just like the safety features of the plug itself, although higher voltages is nice for not tripping switches

@slate creek https://youtu.be/UEfP1OKKz_Q

[slate creek]

Oh no, babies can get shocked, anyways…

[past harbor]

When can we play a YT vid inside discord?

[fierce pivot]

"you can remember brown is live because that's the colour your trousers will be if you accidentally hit yourself with it"

[fierce pivot]

Ages lol

[past harbor]

Help?

[fierce pivot]

Not on mobile

[past harbor]

Also america does have dumb "tamper proof" outlets that mostly just make it tougher to plug in stuff, but eventually they loosen a bit & get perfect

[fierce pivot]

Also thats outlet dependent and not universal 😤

@past harbor i mean you can play vids in discord on mobile just on desktop

[past harbor]

Anyways... this pic is a fine idea (fuse in cord end), & how the 2 prongs are partly covered. Still watching. Although, doubt it's $2-3 per outlet like here. Price is part of why america isn't as "safe".

[fierce pivot]

They cost like nothing

Also as he mentions having fuse in plug cheaper and safer

[wild coral]

@slate creek I’ve been hit by that once. Now that hurt

220V that is

[slate creek]

Jeez

Most I got zapped was by 750V cause of a stupid mistake working on an amp I was building

[blissful dust]

Bought a EVGA Supernova P6 1000W 80 Plus Platinum. How dumb was my choice?

[mild roost]

that's not bad

it's a decent choice

[fickle bison]

Ok so my new PSU has arrived.
The cables for it are damn stiff and the SATA ones are not quite what I'd like.
Would cablemod be the go to for alternative cables or someone else?

[fierce pivot]

What's wrong with the sata cables? And stiff is a good thing btw

If you bend them around a tad bit they'll become bit easier to work with

[fickle bison]

It's not a good thing when they are this level of stiff

The cable to the GPU bends around but bows to outside the case

The SATA power cables aren't quite ideal for how my drives are positioned in my case. I could move them but didnt overly wish to because I liked where they were

The motherboard power cable was mad difficult to get in as well

[fierce pivot]

Yeah bending them back and forth a few times should fix

[fickle bison]

I'll give it a shot then

It's mainly this bit on the ends that's stopping it because that part doesn't exactly bend

[fierce pivot]

It should a bit anyway i see what you mean tho

[fickle bison]

I've managed to do a test boot and it worked though so thinking about it I can go back to using my cable extensions again that were in before

I could get a tiny bit of flex but not really enough I don't think

[fickle bison]

This is how the cables are that came with for the SATA

This is ideally what I want

@fierce pivot

Just to answer from when you questioned it earlier

Because they will daisy chain across here and the ones that came with won't really do that

[fierce pivot]

Ehh close enough

[fickle bison]

Not quite if it don't go

[fierce pivot]

You'll be able to use 3/4 of them anyway

[fickle bison]

There is normally 3 drives there but took the other out to test something

[slate creek]

That’s normal for brand new cables

[fickle bison]

I'll just have to not close the door on it 😂
It's more the SATA power that I'm annoyed about though with this. Could do with the other kind of cable but idk if I can get them that will be suitable with this

[past harbor]

One of my GPU cables is the same way. Currently don't care and I just have the panel off anyways. tbh gonna try out the AsiaHorse cables.

[iron glen]

Does anyone have a empty barebones case for a new Optiplex 7090 desktop?

[hoary magnet]

Any cheap cases and psu I'm near a micro center

[rich rain]

Hey guys. Anyone have reviews on the NZXT C750 Bronze semi-modular? Only ever saw 1 unboxing and testing video on it, mainly cus it was released towards the end of 2021 I think

[hollow gale]

corsair offers cable sets too

[fickle bison]

Including the SATA ones. Because that's the main ones I'd like

[hollow gale]

yeah, full set

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/Premium-Individually-Sleeved-PSU-Cables-Pro-Kit-Type-4-Gen-4/p/CP-8920222

[fierce pivot]

Microcenter is usually pretty meh for anything outside of motherboard and cpu deals so I'd recommend mx330 g air /mx330 regular with a arctic p12, and bitfenix formula 650w for 50$

[fierce pivot]

Very meh and overpriced just like almost every other nzxt product

[fickle bison]

Ok that looks like they might be good for me. The SATA cables aren't a very clear image annoyingly so can't tell if it's the one I'm after

[hollow gale]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/c/Cor_Products_Accessories_Parts?q=%3Afeatured%3AproductCategories%3ACor_Products_Accessories_Parts_PCComponents_PowerSupplies&text=&pageSize=#rotatingText

you can buy smaller kits with separate sata cables

[fickle bison]

Hmm.
It looks like it might be the shape I'm after but just not sure.
Might be worth risking it to see if it's what I'm after

[hollow gale]

just make sure to check which Type and Gen your PSU falls under

[fickle bison]

Ok sure, thanks

[rich rain]

really? here it's like the cheapest out of all the 750w semi-mods

[past harbor]

[fierce pivot]

What country?

[rich rain]

Philippines

[fierce pivot]

You guys use shopee right?

[fierce pivot]

https://shopee.ph/Corsair-CV-Series-450w-550w-650w-750w-80-Bronze-Power-Supply-PSU-i.50916350.9717336776?sp_atk=e7d4b87a-f921-4dab-ae30-5bb3a32f029c same tier and most like a lot cheaper from what i can see

[rich rain]

not Shopee, but a local shop I frequent. hol up lemme send the link

[hoary magnet]

@fierce pivot should I get a motherboard from micro center and if so how much should I sell my z590 aorus pro ax for

[rich rain]

this is the shop I frequent

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/components-power-supply-700-900-watts/products/nzxt-c750-bronze-750w-80-semi-modular-atx-psu-pa-7b1bb-us

but yeah. if it's good enough to support a R5 3600 and a 3060 with no OC, think I'll go for it

[fierce pivot]

Uhh can I've some context?

You already got a working 10th/11th gen pc?

[fierce pivot]

I'll have a look

[rich rain]

thanks man. still not on the PSU tier list either cus it's so new

[hoary magnet]

@fierce pivot all I have so far is a motherboard, graphics card.

[fierce pivot]

Then i would go 12th gen

[fierce pivot]

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/components-power-supply-500-650-watts/products/seasonic-core-gc650-650watts-80plus-gold-power-supply-ssr-650lc bit more expensive but better unit

[fierce pivot]

It is, it's down as nzxt c series brozne or something

[rich rain]

so I thought, but when I checked the google spreadsheet, they still didn't have any tested units on it, which is why I had my doubts

[fierce pivot]

There's a tier list in the pins, the data sheet hasn't been updated in ages

[rich rain]

the one from cultists network, right?

[fierce pivot]

Yep

[hoary magnet]

PowerSpec RGB 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Semi-Modular Power Supply $59.99 good or bad?

[elfin trout]

Not really tbh, it's still getting updates

[elfin trout]

Bad considering formula gold deal

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay last time i checked wasn't updated often

Good to know

[elfin trout]

Last major update was 2 months ago, but still getting changes on there

[fierce pivot]

Oh nice

[hoary magnet]

EVGA 600 BR 100-BR-0600-K1 600 W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI CrossFire 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Non-Modular Active PFC Power Supply?

[fierce pivot]

Bitfenix formula 650w is the best value power supply right now

50$ on Amazon

[marble nimbus]

Phanteks AMP Series 750W 80PLUS Gold. Do you think I should buy this for 100$? I'm mainly buying it to upgrade from a non modular to a fully modular because I have a750 watt already

[fierce pivot]

Not the best 750w for 100$, btw modular is just an ease of cable management thing

[marble nimbus]

ik, i need it bc too many cables

cant put back panel on my case rn lol

if not that psu what other recommendations u got?

[elfin trout]

Whisper M, A-GF, revolution d.f., all modular, all cwt gpu, all should be around 100$ for 750w

[fierce pivot]

@marble nimbus https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MMrcCJ/bitfenix-whisper-m-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp-wg850umag-7fm

Might as well spend the extra 10$ for an 850w

[marble nimbus]

same price

ty

[fierce pivot]

Np

Well there's 90$ 750w's but ye

[marble nimbus]

the 850 is the same price of the phanteks one i was gunna get but better so ty

[fickle bison]

How do i identify the type and gen my PSU is?

This is the PSU
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

I'm pretty sure it will be ok but these are what i wish to get
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/premium-individually-sleeved-sata-cable-type-4-generation-3-config/p/CP-8920186

[fierce pivot]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/psu-cable-compatibility

[fickle bison]

Ahhhh cleverrr, thanks

Well dang...if im understanding that right then no it isnt compatible -_-

[past harbor]

Yeah, making any plain extension work in a psu would've been too easy for us. Although, some corsairs and a few others do have their special cables with the capacitors or w/e inside them

[fierce pivot]

It's not extension it's replacement cable

[past harbor]

That's my point.

[fierce pivot]

Extensions are universal the pinout is x -> x instead of x-> y

[fierce pivot]

Corsair doesn't actually manufacturer the power supplies tho

[past harbor]

I'm saying make a psu with ports setup so a common extension actually would work in place of stock cables.

[fickle bison]

This seems like my next best option then. I think this is compatible
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/SF-Series™-Premium-Individually-Sleeved-PSU-Cable-Kit---Black/p/CP-8920202

What does the generation part mean. Is it like the revision of the cable. So it's on its 3rd or 4th version since release type thing?

[past harbor]

Anyone have experience with LinkUp cables, or is AsiaHorse pretty much the general suggestion?

[fickle bison]

Anyone? 😅

[fierce pivot]

Just whatever the graph tells you for your power supply it's corsairs weird naming, they list all the ones that are compatible

[fierce pivot]

Probably fine, extensions don't require much just a straight wire lol

[fickle bison]

The confusing thing with this kit though is that it says in the "features" part "Designed specifically for SF Series power supplies but is fully compatible with CORSAIR Type 4 PSUs including the RMi and RMx series."
When i look at the compatibility list it shows the the 24pin, 8pin and PCIE as being type 4 but then the SATA as being type 3...soooo, slightly confused by that
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/SF-Series™-Premium-Individually-Sleeved-PSU-Cable-Kit---Black/p/CP-8920202

[past harbor]

I read on there that type 3 and 4 is the same for everything except 24pin, but I'm on my phone and the website wont show fully

[fickle bison]

Ohhhh ok i did see that but didnt really understand what it meant very well

This

[past harbor]

I'd double check but I can't scroll to the right enough on my phone browser, darn it

[fickle bison]

If thats the case then these should be perfectly fine
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/premium-individually-sleeved-sata-cable-type-4-generation-3-config/p/CP-8920186

[fickle bison]

RMx column is what I'm looking at

[past harbor]

Right, so type 4 for 24pin & either type for other stuff. Idk about any gen 3 or 4 though.

[fickle bison]

Ok then cool.
Sorry for being so annoying with all the question. It might seem like it's all obvious and stuff but i just want to be 100% certain before i do hit buy on these things you know

[past harbor]

Idk what SF ones are but it says Type 4 rmx compatible, so might one to get. -- I hear ya. Psu cables are obviously a big deal, because they didn't design them to work with a plain "extension" or w/e.

[fickle bison]

I assumed SF meant its designed for the small formfactor PSUs 🤷‍♂️

All i was wanting was the SATA cables. Maybe later on i will change the main stock cables to some different colour or whatever but not right now when they basically cost the same amount as the PSU itself

If the wrong cable were to be used, what would happen?
Cause damage to the PSU/component at the other end?

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[past harbor]

SF series.... and gen 3 apparently just isn't their very newest ones is all.

The one you linked a while ago listing rmx compatible should be the ticket.

[fickle bison]

Yikes....no pressure then

[fickle bison]

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/SF-Series™-Premium-Individually-Sleeved-PSU-Cable-Kit---Black/p/CP-8920202
This one?

[past harbor]

That & the sata cable by itself, I think

[fickle bison]

Shame the SF kit only comes in black

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/premium-individually-sleeved-sata-cable-type-4-generation-3-config/p/CP-8920186
This is the SATA on its own

SF kit only comes with 2 SATA cables. With the dumb amount of drives i have, might need to buy individuals too

[past harbor]

Yikes. Yeah maybe do the kit instead of $18 for just 2 sata cables separately,. You have more than 6-8 drives?

[fickle bison]

Well actually, looking at the contents details i cant tell how many it comes with . It is 1 or 4
Length column says 1 x 445. Looks like 1 cable has 4 SATA connectors but then you have a 4 in the last column too

[past harbor]

4 connctors, 1 cable. Last column is redundant & confusing

[fickle bison]

Yeahh i'm gonna need to get another one. I have 4 drives that need connectors and then i have to SATA connectors for the case fans

Oh actually unless i just use the onces that came with the PSU, never mind

[grave siren]

Does anyone know if the lian li psu cables that have the RGB stuff can be controlled by iCUE if it’s plugged into the Corsair commander?

[scenic lance]

need fan recommendations pls

something cheap

antec fans maybe?

[fierce pivot]

Arctic p12 or p14

[scenic lance]

any difference between them?

or is that the size

[fierce pivot]

P12 - 120mm, p14 140mm

[scenic lance]

great, thank you

[fierce pivot]

Np

[winter herald]

Helou

Is this sound normal? Psu

Got it a month ago, msi mpg a650gf

[fierce pivot]

You sure it's your power supply?

[winter herald]

100 percent

[fierce pivot]

Sounds like just fans ramping up mb

[winter herald]

Heres proof

That its the psu fan

[fierce pivot]

Hmm that's odd

[winter herald]

Soo is it a case for getting a refund for it

Or you dont know

[fierce pivot]

I'm not sure

I'd maybe contact msi support and see what they say

[winter herald]

ehh

Are the psus for the 40 series out yet lol

Cause if i get a refund for this I wanna get a psu that can handle the 40 series lol

[fierce pivot]

With 12 pin pcie? No, you can just use adapters tho

[sand atlas]

Corsair has the 12 pin that connects directly to the psu with no adapter. You just need to buy separately.

[fierce pivot]

Oh nice

[fickle bison]

What's the o11 like for building in.
Is this the case thats quite popular with people?
https://lian-li.com/product/pc-o11-dynamic/

[fierce pivot]

Probably decent, yes that is the popular case, not because it's outstanding to build in tho just cuz pretty

[fickle bison]

Ok fair enough

Asking for a friend more then myself

[iron glen]

If I have a Corsair CX750M should I upgrade to a RM650X? (Bronze to Gold, better capacitors). I’m gaming on Dell Inspiron i5-8400, GTX 1070, 32gb DDR4 2666, 500gb Crucial P5 nvme.

I can get the RM650X (2018 version grey) for around $40. Used

[fierce pivot]

Nah you're fine, when you upgrade gpu then I'd consider a better model, but you can get bitfenix formula 650w for 50$ new :p

[weary vine]

Bronze and gold mean nothing when it comes to quality btw

[young dragon]

Hi peeps. I am looking at the EVGA Supernova 1000w G6. Good? Any others I should consider?

Also, can someone recommend some cases? (i9-12900K, MSI EDGE Z690, NVIDIA 3090). I don't need or want anything flashy. Just something solid with good airflow. Haven't decided on cooling yet but likely 360mm or 420mm.

[elfin trout]

It's pretty decent, but price wise, leadex gold can sometimes be priced better

[elfin trout]

Could go with p500a

[past harbor]

Getting info in cooling thread, lol. Somebody had a message in 4-5 different threads (360 or maybe 420mm rad...)

[iron glen]

Let me see if I understand you. You are saying the components inside are the ”quality” and the rating is just the % your supposed to get with the watt number? So a better components 80+ white is better than say a lower components 80+ gold? Does that even happen though? Usually better insides of a psu are already higher 80+ rating right?

[sand atlas]

There's gold rated power supplies that literally exploded under load. It's just an efficiency rating related to the AC - DC conversion.

Typically a higher rated gpu will have better components but that's not a rule, just a trend.

[iron glen]

I see! I don’t think my CX750M has anything to worry about with i5 8400 and 1070. Being stuck with prebuilts…lol that’s a whole other issue! Lol

[sand atlas]

CXM is a decent series, it'll be fine

[iron glen]

Copy that Sir!

[scenic lance]

what budget and country?

also what price is the G6

[past harbor]

Came across the LL O11 air mini and kitguru reviewed it. Look at the 280 rad trying to cool gpu & cpu (11900K). - i'm liking this thing.

[iron glen]

What’s in that small tank thing?

[fierce pivot]

The pump/resivour

[iron glen]

I see, but what kind of liquid is inside ?

[hollow gale]

milk

[iron glen]

??

[hollow gale]

j/k is distilled water with a dye

[iron glen]

Google is telling me water. It doesn’t look like water

Oh okay. Why would someone gn through all that trouble. Wouldn’t an all in one cooler be easier and take up less room?

[hollow gale]

sure, but what about the GPU?

also, if one were to try serious overclocking, one could fit more than 1 radiator to help with that, whereas AIOs only come with 1 360mm radiator maximum

[iron glen]

Oh I believe you. I have never seen a pc with a resovoir tank in person.

[fierce pivot]

1 420mm *

[hollow gale]

pardon me, 420mm 🙂

[weary vine]

yes

im not rawr

its in the username

smh

good

[blissful thistle]

Why would you steal a word from someone

Rude

Bruh

True bacca

Chew bacca

Izza pun

[elfin trout]

Do note, coil whine tends to be common on CX-M, really annoying but not harmful, otherwise it's a usable PSU

[past harbor]

It was a EK cryo-something or rather, chosen partially because it was white (for contrast)

[young dragon]

Ughhh. Can't decide between Meshify 2 or Torrent.

I keep going back and forth.

[rich briar]

Lian Li's SP 750 is in the "Low Priority" tier, what does that mean for this particular PSU?

[scenic lance]

why distilled tho

that thing will end up corroding after a while

very unfun

unless the dye has some kinda antimicrobial thing

[hollow gale]

yes, the water has aintimicrobial stuff in it

[past harbor]

Distilled would be better than non-distilled. It's for short term testing, if that. Just like I flush my truck with it sometimes then do the actual coolant.

[lime jay]

Anyone know if a NH-D15 will fit in a fracture Torrent case?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah, wouldn't buy an nh d15 these days tho, price to performance is meh, I'd get an arctic liquid freezer ii instead if you aren't carrying it over from a previous build

[elfin trout]

For torrent, d15 and other air coolers will prob be a better idea

[fierce pivot]

I suppose yeah

[lime jay]

Okay, Thank you!

[elfin trout]

Just a torrent thing though, freezer ii does perform better

And next gen d15 is supposed to be coming later this year

Guess they pushed it back more

[fierce pivot]

Ohh cool

[elfin trout]

A year ago, it was supposed to come q4 last year/q1 this year >:(

[fierce pivot]

Sadge

[sand atlas]

I imagine the engineering is difficult, trying to top what they already have. I am looking forward to all white noctua fans, though.

[surreal magnet]

desk fan yoooooo

[sand atlas]

24V fan wait what

40mm

That's gotta be like a Delta fan competitor

[elfin trout]

Desk fan also got pushed back an entire year

:(

[elfin trout]

And I mean, there's Noctua active noise canceling fan tech demo from like 10 years ago with no more progress reports

[little estuary]

Just bought a set of white PSU extension cables, notice they only come with two 8pin connectors for PCI-E… do I need to buy another set… (ezdiy brand)

[hollow gale]

if your GPU requires 3 8 pin power connectors, then you iwll have to buy another set, if you cant buy the single extension alone

[little estuary]

Thanks yeah… shoot I can’t even test the GPU on my current PC… only got 8+6 pin from PSU for my 980.. have to literally build my new pc

[hollow gale]

you could always just run the one 8 pin directly from the PSU

without an extension

wont be the worst cabling ive seen

[little estuary]

Does the PSU come with 3 8 pins?

[hollow gale]

if its a powerful enough CPU it will

[young dragon]

In the Torrent case, for those folks who are adding liquid cooling, are you just stacking a liquid cooler on top of the 2 fans in the front?

[sand atlas]

You'd be moving the 180mm fans to the bottom and placing the liquid cooler on the front. You can use the included 140mm fans that are on the bottom by default if you want, they're pretty good.

[young dragon]

That makes sense but if I do that it feels like I am sacrificing the air flow benefits of the Torrent and should prob go with the Meshify 2 instead.

I did see some Torrents setup with a radiator sitting on top of the 180s in front and on top of the 140s on the bottom. Not sure if that gets you the best of both worlds.

[oak dune]

Any good cases with a handle that will fit a 360 AIO? Just looking for an easier way to move my pc every third day

[elfin trout]

otherwise average and expensive case, but the cougar panzer max has handles

[hollow gale]

may I ask why you are lugguing your PC around?

[open quartz]

like an atx pc or micro or itx pc?

if youre doing itx this can accommodate a 360mm rad but theres no handle. most cases that do have a handle normally only do up to 280mm

https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/sv590/

this one is a 280mm

https://hyte.com/store/revolt-3/

if its a bigger case for an atx, be weird trying to lug that around

if you do need or dont want to downsize, there are some cases like this asus tuf gt501 that has straps on them

[past harbor]

Cooler Master HAF EVO XB is 1 I can think of that might be less awkward to move around, it is a cube case though.

[oak dune]

@hollow gale i take my pc to work and bring it home. I work 24 hour shifts so I can game during down time

[hollow gale]

I think an ITX build would be more suited for you bud, or even a gaming laptop?

[oak dune]

Ya that would make sense but i was hoping for a cheaper case vs buying a new case, motherboard and cpu cooler.

[rich briar]

I know an mATX case with a handle. Although it's fairly heavy

[rich briar]

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-SST-SG12B-V2-Micro-ATX-Aluminum/dp/B077917W5F/

mATX with standard PSU. Clearance for the cooler is a bit low though so you'll have to use a LP cooler can't water cool.

If your GPU is 3 fans it might block the harddrive bay btw. And cable management is a bit tough.

But I took it with me overseas and it survived so that's a successful case to me.

[oak dune]

thats a neat little case

[rich briar]

Yes, it fits in the overhead on planes or under the seat in front of me 🙂 very nice

Can't use your aio with it unless you have a dremmel though and mount it on the outside. would be interesting

[blazing garnet]

Hey guys - I bought a Seasonic Prime TX-1000. Am I going to have issues running or am I good?

Asus Z690 Extreme Glacial
I9 12700k
RTX 3090ti (assuming I could get my hands on this)
Double loop liquid cooling (560 Rad x2, EK Dual-D5 x2)

Thanks!

[sand atlas]

Should be fine

[blazing garnet]

Thanks 🙏

[terse cargo]

Is it normal for my gpu to be using 2W on windows?

Yes i meant 2W

RTX 2080 super

[past harbor]

Sure, especially if it's just chip power.

[fierce pivot]

Definitely possible idle

[terse cargo]

Alright

[mortal creek]

is my greatwall psu a bomb

[fierce pivot]

Depends on the model

Greatwall do make some decent ones afaik

[mortal creek]

idk my model tbh

i have no clue how to check

if it involves me taking it out, i cba LOL

[hoary epoch]

It does

You have to take it out and read of the model marked on it

[elfin trout]

greatwall have some pretty decent units

[hollow gale]

dont they also provide units for other brands. seem to recall they make units that corsair or someone else brands as their own

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3413-walmart-great-wall-power-supply-benchmark-review#:~:text=We previously mentioned that Great,attract criticism from the community.
yup

[finite grove]

damn Gpu 26.7c??

[clever basalt]

Are there any o11 d mini like cases that can have a full atx size psu? the full size o11 d are just a bit to big for my liking.

[fierce pivot]

o11 air mini

[clever basalt]

didn't realize the o11 dynamic mini and the air mini were different till now.

[past harbor]

Yep. Chilly house & a great gpu cooler. Plus, 1 bottom intake fan doesn't hurt

[past harbor]

Air mini has mesh front 🤘 . My favorite case since I saw it. Gpu would like 1 or 2 bottom intake fans.

[wispy dune]

evo, when?

[rich briar]

Decent cases usually retain their price longer huh? How much could I get for a Corsair 275R Airflow.

[fierce pivot]

Ehh 40$?

50$ maybe

[rich briar]

They start at 100$ on eBay 😅

It's a white one.

Wad it a good case or are people just crazy on eBay?

[fierce pivot]

People crazy, it was an okay case sure but you can get a phanteks p360a for 80$, 4000d airflow for $85-95 and p400a digital for 85-90$

Not really worth more than 60$ absolute max if they want a white case too

[oak dune]

anyone running the o11 dynamic air mini with a 360 AIO up top with an ATX MB?

[oak dune]

nvm, found a video that shows its not going to fit at all

[oak dune]

be nice if the o11d mini would take a normal psu, looking for something smallish that runs cooler then my msi 110r case

[rich briar]

Which should I get for my 3080+Ryzen 7 3700x since no one on r/hardwareswap offered a 6900xt 😢

[mild roost]

hm

i say the lian li, cheapest

or evga for the 850w

[rich briar]

The Lian li is low priority A on the tier list. because theres no info on it that they have. so I was unsure about it. I do like the price though a lot more 😂

[mild roost]

eh i wouldn't worry about it either way

[keen marten]

Hi

Ummm

Idk what to do

But

I have a power supply that had sata and sata 2

What do I connect for my hdd and ssd

[past harbor]

Yes, that's where you'd connect the drive power cables to. Pic below is an example of what the sata power cables might look like .

[keen marten]

Yes

But do I connect both cables into each one

[past harbor]

You only have to use the PSU ports that are really needed. If you can, use only 1 cable like the above pic for both drives. Of course they also each need a sata data cable. These ports are near the bottom right of a mobo usually.

[keen marten]

Damnit

Can't take photo

I have ssd and hdd

[past harbor]

Yeah need to talk more before green lol.

[keen marten]

So I use one sata cable for both ssd and hdd

[past harbor]

Well, 1 per drive if we mean the data cable. If you have a sata 1/2 and sata 3 ports, SSD should go in a sata 3 port to not limit their speed.

[keen marten]

Is already connected

I'm changing my power supply

I'm stuck on the hdd power

You know

[past harbor]

yeah if you have a cable like the one I showed w/ multiple connectors for more than 1 hdd/ssd, it can just go to either of the "sata" ports on the PSU. sata 2 PSU spot is like if you had 4+ drives or something.

[keen marten]

Ohhhhhhh

Well

I'm dumb

[past harbor]

no prob, what's also slightly confusing is we also had sata 1/2/3 and it related to the speed of the cable mostly. That's why I mentioned sata 2/3 on the mobo. New mobos might have all their ports "sata3" nowadays (6Gbits/second isntead of 3 or 1.5 like sata 2/1)

[keen marten]

I see

I got myself a evga 650 b5

Which is 650 w

[past harbor]

Yeah, you could just use 1 of these and: --- my bad, if I was confusing.

[keen marten]

Thank you God

[fierce pivot]

This one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdFbt6/evga-supernova-g6-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-1000-x1

[keen marten]

LESSSSGOOOO

IS ON

IS ALIVE

[fierce pivot]

Oh wait sfx eee

[fierce pivot]

If sfx https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us

[keen marten]

The reason I got a psu today is because my other psu burn down and I was crying thinking my motherboard and everything was dead

[minor portal]

shinpai[commissions open]#6497 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rich briar]

Who are you and what'd you do to Not Pato

[keen marten]

Got damnit

Is alive

After nearly a month

[past harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

[fierce pivot]

Lol, sips phone autocorrected pato to apron so i am now apron

[past harbor]

Right on. Lol, perhaps not the best gif since Mr frankenstein literaly shocks his monster.

Eventually gonna find out if my spare "brand new" G+ psu is actually good. The 7-10 yr warranty is nice. A month?!!

[keen marten]

Honestly I wasn't expecting for me to do a good job connecting the cables to the motherboard and more, I did it blind actually lmao

I was looking the marks the cables and clicked where I needed to place it

[past harbor]

[keen marten]

But I'm very thankful for your help

May good luck past by you

Now the hardest part

Cable management

Wooooo I'm gonna have so much fun

[rare tapir]

computer repair shop gave me a free power supply with my bios update the person who had it upgrade so it missing the power cables

what safe lenth to buy the cables i have our too short for the mother bord sata and gpu cables our not too short so i only need 2 cables

[wanton briar]

Well what PSU is it

[hollow gale]

also, what case

[wanton briar]

You have to buy very specific cables only for that model

[rare tapir]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175113163186?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

and case is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088T78MJT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[wanton briar]

@rare tapir What PSU is it?

[rare tapir]

it a dell power supply

[wanton briar]

Lmao

So it's non modular?

What's the wattage?

[rare tapir]

it longer then most psu so the mother bord power cable to short

it modular

[wanton briar]

So buy a extension cable then

[rare tapir]

wait i take pix

hear you go @wanton briar

[wanton briar]

But what's the model number

If the system side connectors are normal then just buy normal cable extensions

[sand atlas]

Take a pic of the label on the side, that'll tell us what you're working with

[rare tapir]

thear @sand atlas

[sand atlas]

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/accessories/ac/7566?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=111&mfgpid=208477&category_id=7566&~ck=bt
Search for these part numbers:
N1WJD
MD63V
JX68G
GP6MV
G2GX9
G9Y40
654MT
4NT8R

You can buy just the ones you need

[rare tapir]

The one they sell it too ahort

[sand atlas]

You can get extensions

[rare tapir]

link

[sand atlas]

Cablemod has the good stuff and asiahorse tends to be cheaper but still usable. You can find them on Amazon or wherever

[rare tapir]

found thim 13$

https://www.amazon.com/Clovertale-Sleeved-Cable-connectors-White/dp/B078WQWVJZ/ref=sr_1_13?crid=25HKWWUM3TOHS&keywords=psu%2Bmodular%2Bcables&qid=1643915325&sprefix=psu%2Bmodular%2Bcables%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-13&th=1 not sure they reach the mother bord tho

🙂

[sand atlas]

They're only extensions, not replacements. You'll attach those to the existing cables to extend them. The combined length should be good.

[rare tapir]

oh ok

even better

[oak dune]

Anyone running a Cooler Master Master Case H500? Looks to have a decent handle and curious what people thought

[finite grove]

what's a good budget airflow case below or around $70?

would like to replace my CM masterbox lite 5

trash airflow

[hollow gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b9tKHx/deepcool-matrexx-55-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-dp-atx-matrexx55-mesh

[finite grove]

is p360A better?

[hollow gale]

yes, but its over $70?

[finite grove]

what's the difference

1 extra fan?

[hollow gale]

p360 has space for 2 more fans (1 in front, 1 in roof)

I think

oh, no, just in roof

[finite grove]

is it worth to get the p500A @ $85usd?

[sand atlas]

P500a is one of the best cases

*budget cases

[finite grove]

85usd is below MSRP right

[hollow gale]

P500A for $85 is a very good deal

[finite grove]

digital rgb version as well

[past harbor]

Where is the p500A for $85, thought that's what I paid for the P400A.

[fierce pivot]

Cougar mx330 g air, metallic gear neo air, bitfenix nova mesh

[fierce pivot]

You sure you don't mean p400a?

[finite grove]

yeah i currently got a local deal for $85 usd for the P500A

clearance sale so no warranty

brand new

[fierce pivot]

That's a steal

[past harbor]

I'd do it if it's new. $145ish usually

[finite grove]

sounds great

ive currently got 3 120mm fans

the case comes with 3 140mm front panel fans

should i put 1 120mm on the rear and 2 on top?

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[finite grove]

in what direction would i face the 120mm fans?

out take for top and rear?

[past harbor]

Yep

[finite grove]

alright got the case

just hope theres no defects lol

[hollow gale]

unless the glass is broken, it will still be worth it

[finite grove]

yeah just afraid the front panel IO has problems

[fierce pivot]

Phanteks can probs send you a replacement one if it's broken

For like no more than 15$ I'd imagine

[finite grove]

ah i see

then ive got nothing to worry about

now would i need a 3rd party cpu cooler or stock fan is fine for r5 5600x with this case

[fierce pivot]

Honestly in a p500a with full case of fans, btw it actually should come with 1 stock in the back already, the stock cooler will be fine

[hollow gale]

stock fan is fine without o/c

[finite grove]

the p500a digital rgb one is the one im getting so 3 front fans only

so i will be adding 3 more 120mms

[fierce pivot]

P500a digital should come with a black fan in the rear

[finite grove]

but all the reviews ive seen do not though

i think the non rgb is the one with the rear fan

[fierce pivot]

Oh my bad

The p400a does so i assumed the p500a does too lol

[finite grove]

yeah all good haha

[fierce pivot]

I'm imagining things

[fierce pivot]

[wanton briar]

Ooh

[rare tapir]

Dose not come with one in the back only 3 in frount

[fierce pivot]

I realised that yeah

[hollow gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3S5y_uaFKQ

looks like it has had a massive overhaul... 3 slot gpu instead of 2, for example

[rare tapir]

yea mine end up breaking puting the aio in so be care full

they replace mine for free

[finite grove]

i see

[rich briar]

Yo wait can I use this for my console build? https://hdplex.com/hdplex-400w-hi-fi-dc-atx-power-supply-16v-24v-wide-range-voltage-input.html

[rich briar]

Nah I don't think I can

[rich briar]

The highest laptop AC Power adapter I can find is 330W 😦 so while the limit hits the recommended I'm not sure if 330W would be actually okay for a 3050 and 11400f if my usage gets heavy. D: PC Partpicker says only 259W though for the estimation. so maybe?

[finite grove]

got the p500a today

[lean lichen]

is this a decent psu?

BitFenix Whisper M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

[blissful thistle]

yes

its an A tier psu

[lean lichen]

should i do a corsair one instead of the one listed

[blissful thistle]

depends on price

[lean lichen]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R5JPTMZ?tag=track-ect-usa-503926-20&linkCode=osi&th=1
150 for corsair and the other is
100 for bitfenix

[blissful thistle]

bitfenix

[lean lichen]

ok thanks

[tidal lotus]

im an artist and cases bore me. looking to buy corsair 4000d airflow and customize it, any recommendations for materials and methods?

is this not the place for that lmao looked like it was

oh alright you too

[sand atlas]

A custom paint job would be easy but if you want to go for it, etched glass services are fantastic. The rgb shining through makes the image pop.

[tidal lotus]

ohhh i could definitely come up with something for that

thanks!

glass might be more of a long term thing but im definitely painting

[fierce pivot]

@night bear this is a warning, please respect the other people here and read the #rules

[iron glen]

He said he was kidding. Does that count?

Please listen to Admins, Mods, and Staff. If they ask you to stop a certain action, please follow their request, even if it does not represent one of the rules below.

Nevermind. I will be quiet now.

[fierce pivot]

Doesn't matter, could be lying or even if he was telling the truth that was not clear

[iron glen]

Absolutely. Sorry about that.

[weary vine]

Nope

you cant commit a crime say it was joke and expect to be forgiven

its happened before

to youtube prankers

[iron glen]

Lol I get it.

[placid loom]

Anyone use the ASUS GT 501 case that can attest to the long-term durability of the carry straps?

[ancient drum]

Has anyone heard of having the system panel connectors plugged in causing either not posting or power on/off loop?

I would say it's not plugged in right but I just moved and never unplugged those connectors. And it worked before I moved. Put the pc in the original case box and removed graphics card to avoid damage. Currently have the system in a LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 X Black Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case.

[fierce pivot]

Lol

[fringe granite]

jokes are supposed to be funny

that was not funny

[fringe granite]

I dunno, I think your attempts at humor are pretty funny

not in the way you wanted them to be

sad kind of funny

yeah, saying "shut up nerd" in a dedicated help channel is super funny and adds a lot to the conversation

seethe more

well, they're both gone now

don't need an obvious troll duo clogging up help channels

[past harbor]

Both troublesome whitenames. 👍

[iron glen]

I’m not with him. Just being sassy for sec. I’m good now. Lol

Wow really?

Thanks Wegg

[fringe granite]

lmao

yikes

what pathetic specimens

the next person who comes here for help is going to be confused

[fierce pivot]

Was that the same guy with another alt?

[fringe granite]

yep

"SILENCE ME"

[fierce pivot]

Lol

Imagine that being the best use of your time.... Sad

[fringe granite]

meh, can't say I'm using my time much better, currently trying to run gpupi instead of doing my physics lab

gimme those hwbot points

dopamine rush from torturing my 3070 for numbers on screen

[iron glen]

I’m working security at an empty yard and on Mercari. Bad combination.

[fierce pivot]

Big number gives dopamine, very successful use of time

[fringe granite]

true

[fierce pivot]

Dopamine is good

[rich briar]

This is a robbery, put the dopamine in the bag

[fierce pivot]

Noo is mine

[rich briar]

Nuh

I need it

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[rich briar]

Yes me.

[scenic lance]

2 front and 2 back fans or 3 front 1 back for positive pressure?

[sand atlas]

3 front

[scenic lance]

for the back fan should i put it on the back or back-top of the case?

[sand atlas]

Back, so it guides the airflow through in a straight-ish line instead of trying to make it curve

[scenic lance]

okay, will daisy chaining 4 fans to 1 4pin case fan work?

the previous fans i had were directly supplied by my psu

[sand atlas]

It depends on the fans. As long as the total amperage of the fans doesn't exceed the available power from the header (usually 1A) you can put as many as you like safely.

There's a sticker on the fans that will tell you how much power each draws

[scenic lance]

thank you :)

[rich briar]

Pato stop me, i'm about to buy a case from Cyberpowerpc

[elfin trout]

Snowblind does have somewhat of a unique feature so you do you

[fierce pivot]

the weird external rad one ? ew

[rich briar]

no

[fierce pivot]

which one

[rich briar]

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Syber-SCC0100-Orange-Gaming/dp/B07KKJCKYH

Would be simpler than getting a broken Xbox

[fierce pivot]

lemme have look at other options, the lack of airflow concerns me tho and doesnt look like it would fit a gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/J7WzK8 also id go with this board maybe instead of h510

[sand atlas]

Does that case just... Not have a slot for a fan

[fierce pivot]

also what exact gpu will you be using

[fierce pivot]

it doesnt look it, maybe underneath?

[rich briar]

EVGA XC Black 3050

[rich briar]

it doesn't

[sand atlas]

One reviewer said they cut a hole to get a 120mm in there

[rich briar]

Of course this one goes back in stock AFTER I buy the H510 lol

[fierce pivot]

rip

[sand atlas]

Maybe you could mod it and get a small delta fan

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fGvRsY/thermaltake-case-ca1b800s1wn00
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6wR48d/cooler-master-case-rc130kkn1
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WG2bt6/silverstone-sg13-v2-mini-itx-tower-case-sg13b-usa

or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zvstt6/hyte-revolt-3-mini-itx-tower-case-cs-hyte-revolt3-b on its side look like better options

[sand atlas]

Ah the meme case with the handle. Points for creativity making the handle extend to a headphone stand.

[fierce pivot]

wait which one has that? thats pretty funny

[sand atlas]

https://youtu.be/zJ-JtkxphVE

[fierce pivot]

ohh i missed that lol

still looks like plenty of mesh

[sand atlas]

Yeah airflow won't be an issue

[rich briar]

I mean its an 11400 and a RTX 3050 >.> I don't think temps would ever be an issue

I could probably cut holes in a cardboard box and call it a day

[fierce pivot]

when theres 0 airflow it will be

[sand atlas]

Ooh interesting, ITX torrent https://youtu.be/LGFKXUuahwo

[fierce pivot]

Ohhh

[steady axle]

Does anybody know what kind of case this is?

[elfin trout]

either o11 or o11 clone

If the front is glass with no fan mounts, and it has side fan mounts, its either an o11 or o11 clone

[steady axle]

Are they good for air flow?

If you know

[elfin trout]

They're decent

[steady axle]

What’s a good case for a 3080ti

The one I got rn is too small

[elfin trout]

p500a perhaps if price is back to normal

[past harbor]

I'd like to see more cases go back to top mounted PSU, so GPU's can easily have 1-3 bottom case fans blowing straight at em. Higher-end 30 and 40 series cards will probably like that.

[slate creek]

Top mounted PSU= no top mounted rad

Also some cases like my Lancool II mesh have fan mounts below the PSU

[hollow gale]

I dont like the idea of a top mounted PSU because the center of mass is high

[fierce pivot]

Also no top fans sad

[blissful thistle]

I know the screws would hold easily but the idea of having a 5-8lb thing being above my main parts just hanging makes me nervous lol

[fierce pivot]

The real solution is separate compartment for psu i think like in the o11

[blissful thistle]

Maybe not 8lb

I suck at judging weight

[past harbor]

. I like the 011 Air Mini. Fractal has their Torrent & just showed a smaller one & one for itx. Top psu didn't bother me as much as non-modular psus in those days.

[hollow gale]

or a power brick like a laptop

[fierce pivot]

Mmmmmm would need a humongous power brick

[hollow gale]

well they call it a brick, not a power-pack-of-matches for a reason 😉 😆

[slate creek]

I got a better solution, design all components to handle 120V

Who needs a power supply?

[fierce pivot]

120v straight into the cpu

[slate creek]

Exactly

[hollow gale]

yes! imagine the overclock potential!

[fierce pivot]

Delicious

240v in EU

[hollow gale]

on a serious note: 12VO basically means you can have an external PSU

[fierce pivot]

That is true but ehhh

[hollow gale]

gives more options anyway

[fierce pivot]

Liquid molten cpu

[vocal tree]

How does 011D handle the space the PSU goes in?

I want to see like a cross section or something

[past harbor]

https://bfy.tw/SXHa

[vocal tree]

Like I'm looking at the product images of the case and it feels fake 😂

I know it fits stuff in there

[past harbor]

Some of the 011 or 011D models only fit a SFF psu. 011 Air Mini fits fullsize atx psus

[vocal tree]

Interesting

The mini versions

[hollow gale]

011 mini = only SFF
011 AIR mini = ATX

[vocal tree]

The XL fitting full size PSUs I assume

[hollow gale]

yes

only the vanilla 011 mini uses an SFF spu

[vocal tree]

Yeah it's just visually confusing xd

I can see the ramp and I can see the PSU fit in but then I step back and go "that's not right"

[hollow gale]

wathc some build videos, its quite nice.

if you want real confusion, watch build videos of the new 011 Evo

[fierce pivot]

As much as the regular and XL o11 annoy me i do think the extra chamber for psu is pretty smart

[vocal tree]

It's clever

There's more room for hard drives and doesn't it have more cable management space?

[fierce pivot]

O11 evo is a gimmick imo cough cough

[hollow gale]

nah, it brings some clever ideas to the table and cleverly tackles the issue of assymetrical cases

and improves failings of the original and XL

for example, you can now get a proper mesh front for good airflow

[fierce pivot]

Oh yeah forgot about the mesh front

[finite grove]

any p500A users here

my argb fans dont seem to be lighting up

i plugged argb header in

[shy schooner]

What 850w psu do you guys recommend?

[fierce pivot]

If you're in the US bitfenix whisper M at 100$ is

[arctic igloo]

oh my gawd lordy we have a genius

[hoary epoch]

Nah just run molex to every component

You will get sufficient enough power to each part

[late herald]

what is a good intel motherboard that fits in the lian li O11-Dynamic-mini that is no more than $250?

[fierce pivot]

For what cpu?

[late herald]

Intel Core i5 8400

@fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

Don't buy a new motherboard for that

[sand atlas]

That fits a standard atx or micro atx board. Any B360, B365, or H370 should do. Don't buy new for that, like pato said. Refurbished on newegg or used on ebay are fine.

[late herald]

@sand atlas appreciate you

[elfin trout]

Pato is my friend so go away now

[blissful thistle]

you came into a random server to troll someone you dont know

who doesnt have friends?

[rich briar]

Correct

[vocal tree]

Who?

Ionsee

https://tenor.com/view/drive-fast-gif-18570418

[hybrid robin]

u guys think 850w will be fine 11700k and 3080? even if i overclock?

[fierce pivot]

It depends on the model, like if it's anything below C tier on the list in the pins for your use case replace immediately if it's B or A tier yeah

[finite grove]

which cx-m does this fall under on the tier list

Cx-M 2017?

[vocal tree]

Yeah I think so

[finite grove]

but it doesnt matter that much unless im OCing right

[vocal tree]

I think the quality of a power supply matters no matter what you're running on it and how you're running it

CXM will probably get coil whine, but function fine

[hybrid robin]

im thinking of getting a 850w since i had 3060 before a 3080 upgrade thats why i only had 850w

if 850w wouldn’t suffice i’ll probably go 1k watts

with overclocking

[weary vine]

750 watts is OK for a 3080

[fierce pivot]

A good one tho*

[hybrid robin]

i got corsair tx i think

its semi modular

[fierce pivot]

Txm is good psu

[hybrid robin]

ye thats what i have its still hasnt let me down

as of right now using it for 7months now

well im just hoping it would be enough playing demanding title

[hollow gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oox5q1Sy0XE

lancool III baybeeeee!

[fierce pivot]

What's different? Also lmao why they have a BQ purebase 500 copy beside it

[hollow gale]

Biggest change: can fit 3 360mm rads simultaneously
Other: more space for drives, both sides of the basement are now vented, wider cable grommets, easier/safer glass door mechanism, toher minor changes

[fierce pivot]

Okay that sounds nice

Hopefully it's nice price

[hollow gale]

oh, the RGB one comes with 3 140mm fans.. so I doubt the price will be nice

[fierce pivot]

I mean p500a is 150

That's okay price for what it is

[winter snow]

is it healthy to remove the front panel glass from DEEPCOOL MATREXX 50

so i can give my pc more air to breath

[fierce pivot]

I mean if you can remove it like clip off sure

[winter snow]

ill try to remove it and will send a picture here just to check if it will bad or normal

[fierce pivot]

With a quick google/YouTube you can probs see if it comes off

[hollow gale]

should be possible, as the fans are fitted there

https://www.deepcool.com/download/pdf/MATREXX_50_Installation.pdf

wow, the manual is quite garbage

[winter snow]

Its dam ugly

but anything for air cooling

[fierce pivot]

That's gonna probs help a good bit with temps

[amber kelp]

I recently got a 3080 and it said that a 850w PSU was required. So you should be good. I’m going for 1000W to be safe and not worry about any surges

[fierce pivot]

750w is actually required but 850w recommended

1000w is overkill for anything less than a 3080 ti/6900xt

[blissful thistle]

i mean

im going to be running a 3080 on a 650rmx

if i can find one at msrp, that is

ill prolly pl it to 90% tho

[fierce pivot]

I mean it's more of a soft require

I mean depends on the model, if FE I'd say it's fine, especially with a 3600

[blissful thistle]

so what if say

i was going for a 3 pin model

kekw

[fierce pivot]

Good luck getting one of those for 700 kek

[blissful thistle]

if its for msrp of that model i wouldnt mind

in line for a 3080 fe on my phone and pc rn

sooo

well see

[fierce pivot]

Good luck

[sand atlas]

3080 FE would be awesome, no mining limiter too

[hybrid robin]

should i go for 850w supernova or corsair rm 850w?

[sand atlas]

Which supernova? There's like 5

[hybrid robin]

this one

[mild roost]

is this usd or aud

or cad

[hybrid robin]

cad

both are same price rn

[sand atlas]

G5 is B tier
RM is A tier

[hybrid robin]

oh okay rm it is then thanks 🙂

[elfin trout]

Go with G6 if possible, it's like 110$ for 850w, also A tier, better unit than RM

[sand atlas]

In cad though?

[hybrid robin]

sadly its not on sale with g6 here

so i dont wanna spend too much on a powersupply

[elfin trout]

No good sale in cad

[hybrid robin]

ah i mean its 50$ sale i guess its not bad for corsair Rm

Rmx is better than RM right?

[elfin trout]

Focus plus gold GX another option, 140
https://www.newegg.ca/seasonic-focus-plus-850-gold-ssr-850fx-850w/p/N82E16817151188

Ye RMx is better than RM

[hybrid robin]

i found a rmx white version 850w

which is on sale too same price

ill prob go with that one

[elfin trout]

RMx over RM at same price

[hybrid robin]

well like 5$cheaper on rm lol

[elfin trout]

Close enough

[hybrid robin]

but i can spend much lol

[sand atlas]

RMx is a little quieter than RM and slightly better voltage regulation, nothing too noticeable

[elfin trout]

Weird that the url still says fx when listing and product images are gx

RMx is just better caps, very similar platform

[sand atlas]

I never trust stock photos, they never have the right model lol

[hybrid robin]

well im going to the store to pick it up im just upgrading my current psu for my 3080 and 11700k

[elfin trout]

Usually they have the old model when the listing is for the new model, but this time the image and listing are both the new model, but url seems unchanged

[hybrid robin]

rn im upgrading my pc case and cooler since im using nzxt which i built my 3060 on

and psu thats prob about it

[sand atlas]

Good old H510

[hybrid robin]

well it handled my 3060 good just not 3080 lol

im at 70 and above playing demanding games

going 4000d and x73 on it

x73 just for aesthetic

[woven raven]

I need some advice on changing a case for my PC. (My friend gave me their unused PC tower and it's missing some parts of the case and the cable management is all over the place) I was wondering what a better case replacement would be. I also have a link to the case in question, I can take actual pictures tomorrow to show it

[woven raven]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353059?recaptcha=pass

[sand atlas]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854086

[steady axle]

Is 850watts good for 3080ti gpu and i9 11900k cpu?

[sand atlas]

It should be enough but that will depend on the model of the unit

[steady axle]

EVGA - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card

I tried to see the if it was compatible on pc part picker but it didn’t show the FTW3 model

[sand atlas]

It's compatible, don't worry about that

Which power supply though?

Supernova G6 is on sale right now, that'll handle it https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B099821FWG

[steady axle]

Is this one good?

That was my second option

[sand atlas]

That's SFX

Small cases

What case were you getting?

[steady axle]

I got a case and didn’t know it was a SFX

o11 dynamic mini

[sand atlas]

Ah that changes things

[steady axle]

I didn’t think about the psu at the time I bought it

[sand atlas]

This one's a little cheaper, still A tier https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us

[steady axle]

So should I return the case and get the original one or could you find a good psu with good watts

Okay thank you

[shy schooner]

Will an 850w handle a 6900xt and 5800x or 5900x?

[fierce pivot]

If you're going 6900xt go 1000w

[shy schooner]

Is this a good psu?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0997XYF3R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_8QBRQBTY5CFA8C47PK4N

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[tacit wren]

Personally, I'd go for a 1200p2 for $170

A high quality 850w could very well be fine for years, or indefinitely, but might as well spend $50 more and have no doubts.

[weary vine]

Well

Yes

But dont

[young dragon]

Why does the side of the case intended for cable management have a clear glass cover? So dumb ..

Who wouldn't want to hide that mess?

[shy schooner]

Maybe if you do a masterful job with cable management you’d want to show it off

[young dragon]

Even if I had time for that, I'd rather hide it

[shy schooner]

Well

You could always take a can of spray paint to the glass

[fierce pivot]

Lol what case?

[young dragon]

Fractal Design Torrent

Which I am learning is a great idea but very poorly executed. You can't fit a 420 AIO in the front (despite the specs indicating you can) because the fans on the bottom get in the way, the GPU support bracket isn't long enough to support longer cards, the screws are made out of butter and strip super easily, and the specs indicate you can put 2 180 fans on the bottom but you can't if you want a 360 AIO in front.

[fierce pivot]

uhh i dont think the fractal torrent has glass on the back

[young dragon]

It does. I'm looking at it.

[fierce pivot]

it has it on the front side not the back

like the left side

[young dragon]

That's what I meant. Glass on the left and right sides.

[elfin trout]

Sometimes cases come with multiple panels

[young dragon]

The right side is for cable management. So the glass exposes the mess.

[fierce pivot]

none of them i see have had glass back?

oh wait it does?

very tinted, never noticed that

[elfin trout]

There should be an option for the solid or tempered glass panel for the back side

[young dragon]

Whatever you get on the left matches what is on the right

So if you want glass on the left so you can see your case/RGB, you get glass on the right automatically.

[elfin trout]

Looks like normal Torrent gets both panels, RGB version only has tempered glass panels

[fierce pivot]

but anyway uhh just dont get it if you dont like it?

[young dragon]

I didn't realize the panels were diff until I got it. But there's no way I could have known it wouldn't fit either a 420 or 360 despite the tech sheet without having received it.

Plus, with the 180 fans on the bottom, you can't squeeze the HD audio wire through to the bottom of the motherboard.

And I just learned you can't center the fans in the front of the case. What a sh*t show.

[sand atlas]

It's not exactly made for AIO cooling. Mostly air or custom loop.

[steel fulcrum]

quick question, coil whine can happen in PSUs right? and wouldnt it be constant, not only when the gpu or cpu is under load?

[elfin trout]

Coil whine can be in PSU, GPU, or motherboard, it could either be constant or only when under load

[steel fulcrum]

i was benchmarking a game and the coil whine was like a song depending on the load.

[elfin trout]

might be gpu or psu

[steel fulcrum]

psu was pushing the same amount of watt, constant 270w but the load was different depending on the scene. if it was the psu wouldnt it be constant because a constant watt demand^

is the AX1600i notorious for coil whine?

[elfin trout]

AXi, no, it should be good

CXm is notorious, but most others are fine

[hardy garnet]

More likely Gpu imo

270w on a 1600x wouldn’t produce coil whine

[steel fulcrum]

i have an asus tuf 6800xt for a while now and i just noticed it when i but my brand new AX1600i and did a custom loop with xd5 pump/res and xc7 block

[hardy garnet]

Waterblock on the 6800xt?

[steel fulcrum]

nah triple fan from factory

no wires are rubbingon the fans

[hardy garnet]

Coil whine is a vibration from the power delivery

But it’s most likely the GPU

[steel fulcrum]

aight, i guess ill truly know when my gpu comes back from RMA

i wish i could shared the vid from it but the chat doesnt let me

[tribal shard]

looking at psus atm, does anyone have any experience with kolink?

[wanton briar]

Which model?

[tribal shard]

KOLINK ENCLAVE - 700W

80+ gold

[wanton briar]

Enclave G-FM?

B Tier on the PSU tier list, but how much is it?

[tribal shard]

109 aud, idk how much usd

$77.50 usd

and then Cody disappeared...

[tribal shard]

as long as it can give me enough power and upgradability without exploding my pc at a decent price i should be good

[flint timber]

Ik it's not officially supposed but does anyone know if you can fit a 420 aio on the side fan mount in the O11D XL it looks big enough to and wouldn't mind making my own holes if it can fit in that gap

[tribal shard]

uuuuh

good question

[sand atlas]

Sure. You got a dremel? You'll need to cut some metal. And your front panel will have to come off.

[past harbor]

coil whine can also be present when getting super high FPS, like 400+ during loading screens for instance. My setup is older/slower, but I eliminated coil whine (only on gpu) by globally limiting fps to 480 w/ RTSS.

[rich briar]

oh wow, the coolermaster SFX PSU came with MUCH shorter cables than corsairs did. So much easier for a Small case. not as much slack to bundle up to keep out of the AIO fans.

[sand atlas]

Corsair sells short cables for their power supplies

I got the 12 pin gpu one, it's fantastic

[steel fulcrum]

its doing it from 170 fps to 400+. as soon there is a graphic load the coil whine happens

[fierce pivot]

You can try undervolt to help with coil wine

[weary vine]

or lock card to a certain framerate

[devout finch]

im looking to put the i3 10100 and 1650S from my dell prebuilt in a nice case so ill need a new case and psu. Just wondering what you guys would recommend

I would like to be as cheap as possible while still having quality

[rough rapids]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/best-pc-cases,4183.html

Best Cases According to Tom's Hardware.

[devout finch]

thanks, what about psu

[rough rapids]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

there ya go

[blissful thistle]

P400a and bitfenix gold 650 or 750

P400a digital* that is, if it's in your budget

This works too https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air

If p400a digital is too much

[fierce pivot]

Cougar mx 330 g air for case, bitfenix formula gold 650w but you'll also need a new motherboard most likely btw

[devout finch]

yeah i was gonna ask in the mobo channel

[fierce pivot]

What country are you in?

[devout finch]

US

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybjBD3/asus-prime-b560m-a-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-prime-b560m-a

[devout finch]

I think i like the cougar more

ty guys!

[fierce pivot]

You're welcome

[amber kelp]

which 1000W would you all recommend? im looking at seasonic and EVGA, but there might be a better one out there

I will be powering a B550 mobo and a 3080 gfx

[fierce pivot]

Depends on your country also

[amber kelp]

US

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QX3gXL/phanteks-amp-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g

Phanteks amp is the best to go with atm

[amber kelp]

any particular reason?

[fierce pivot]

Lowest price A tier power supply atm

[amber kelp]

gotchya, money isnt an issue tho

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but no point spending more

It's a great power supply

[amber kelp]

okay, cool. thank you!

[fierce pivot]

No probs

[young dragon]

Where on my motherboard do I plug the light strip integrated into my case (Fractal Design Torrent)? I read somewhere you shouldn't connect LED strips to the addressable RGB headers because those are intended for fans and different voltages.

[sand atlas]

It can just go on your argb 3 pin header

The way the fans work is the same as how a strip works

[young dragon]

Cool. Just need to screw down my AIO and I will be ready to fire up my system.

Then I need to figure out the bios and how to optimize it.

[young dragon]

Turns out my motherboard has an RGB header (12v) and "RAINBOW" headers (5V). I think my strip and most fans are 5V so not sure what the RGB header is for.

[sand atlas]

5V "rainbow" argb is 3 pins
Classic 12V rgb is 4 pins

[fierce pivot]

Corsair 5000T -if corsair made a p500a
https://youtu.be/sFTfhuqmxgY

[hybrid robin]

i just bought 5000d airflow

i didnt expect the case to be very big

case very good