cases-psu-and-cooling

[ornate kindle]

60

percent

i dont mind switches

idek their types

ik theres browns and reds

idk

can anyone tell me their differences

[elfin trout]

browns tactile

reds linear

blue clicky

that's the general idea before you go into better switches

[ornate kindle]

i want ones to not be hard

to click

and have a nice sound

to them

[elfin trout]

you want sound like this
https://youtu.be/XgE-5CVfH88

or like this
https://youtu.be/SDb3tQitMTE

[ornate kindle]

let me see

[ornate kindle]

thia

this

[ornate kindle]

^

[sour dome]

I love the way this one sounds

[ornate kindle]

same

[ornate kindle]

so?

[elfin trout]

so tactile

good custom keeb will prob be out of your budget

try to get a hotswap keeb, browns to start off

[sand atlas]

Here I am still using the free keyboard that came with my mom's HP Win XP computer in 2003

[ornate kindle]

same

[elfin trout]

on the cheap side for keyboards, but probably not for you, 80usd before shipping on a k6 hotswap
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31441088315481

[ornate kindle]

i use a old dell office keyboard

oof wireless

[elfin trout]

what's wrong with wireless

[ornate kindle]

i dont know how to set it up and.people say it has delay

[elfin trout]

wireless mouse/keeb nowadays are good enough for the latency to be negligible

[elfin trout]

could just leave it plugged in and use it wired too

but bt is simple as long as your mobo has bt/wifi

[ornate kindle]

it says

wireless or wired

how that work

[vocal tree]

like a phone

or a laptop

[elfin trout]

ya

[ornate kindle]

oh does it have 2 modes?

[vocal tree]

has a battery in it, and you plug it in to charge it

[elfin trout]

you just either plug it in or don't

[ornate kindle]

ooo

thats cool

[elfin trout]

there's a switch on the side

wired/off/wireless

also for macos/windows but yea

usb plug, win/mac switch, wired/off/wireless switch

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/velma-dinkley-scooby-doo-my-glasses-i-cant-see-without-my-glasses-gif-8418837

off just turns it off I guess?

[ornate kindle]

ooo

thats sick

im coppin this

[elfin trout]

keep in mind shipping prices

it's decently expensive in general

(although cheap for a keyboard)

[vocal tree]

cheap for a keyboard

[elfin trout]

topre noises

[mystic bough]

picking out a psu has been a bit of a pain, trying to decide between a couple

Antec Signature Series SP1300
Seasonic PRIME 1300W

A reliable psu is such an important decision, and I am not sure of these two which one I could depend on more

[elfin trout]

What are you trying to run on the PSU?

1300w kinda a lot

[mystic bough]

a 3080ti, a 3070, 5950, a few spinning hard drives too

[elfin trout]

eh

what are you trying to do on the GPUs?

[ornate kindle]

ayo bro what the heck

where do u get that much money

[vocal tree]

I guess the next keyboard I'm setting my sights on is a K10 with browns

but that's a while yet

lmaoo

[mystic bough]

I need a second GPU because Nvidia decided to limit the number of displays to 4

[elfin trout]

tbh

3080ti max power draw is gonna be like 500w, 3070 max like 400w, 5950x prob 200w max

[ornate kindle]

1600 wat

would be good

[sand atlas]

^ And that's assuming they're all loaded 100% at once

[elfin trout]

ya

including spikes

anyways

just wanted to say hx plat 1200w another option
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-2017-config/p/CP-9020140-NA

[mystic bough]

They would not all be loaded, I would only play games on the 3080, the 3070 is going to just be used to run my wacom cintiq and a small touch panel monitor on my desk

[fierce pivot]

Why dont you use a gt 710 or something for that then?

Instead of 3070

[ornate kindle]

how did.u fit a 3080 and a 3070 in ur budget💀

what even is ur budger

t

[elfin trout]

I mean, you can prob do something like a dp mst hub

[mystic bough]

The pc is hitting around $7k right now

[elfin trout]

or just a less powerful second GPU since you don't really need it

[mystic bough]

I thought a mst hub would still be limited to 4 monitors

[ornate kindle]

thats more than my life savings

💀

[elfin trout]

I mean, it should be limited to something like 4 monitors per displayport port

[fierce pivot]

Whyyy

[elfin trout]

then you have rest of the ports on the 3080ti

[fierce pivot]

All you needed was a gt 1030 or something if ghr hub didn't work the wasted 3070 :'(

[mystic bough]

that would be nice if it was 4 per display port. Especially since most of the monitors will be only 1080 - but it's a crappy limitation

[elfin trout]

I'm not even sure if it's limited

[mystic bough]

it is, the 2080 can run 5, the 3080 can run 4

[mild roost]

Wait what?

[mystic bough]

I get it, most people only roll with 2 monitors sometimes 3, so a cap of 4 makes sense

[mild roost]

EVGA has thailand site now

[ornate kindle]

nice

[elfin trout]

..?

[mild roost]

But it redirects to asian evga, expected

[elfin trout]

do you mean that's how many ports it has or it'll limit you if you use hubs...?

Because I'm not aware of any limitations in just using hubs

[mild roost]

^

[mystic bough]

limit with hubs, the 3080ti I have actually has enough ports on it, but I can only use 4 of them at a time and would have to toggle monitors on and off.

[sour dome]

Nice

[mystic bough]

I wish I knew that before buying this gpu, because I picked it out specifically for the number of ports lol only to find half of them would be dead

[mild roost]

but no buying kek

[ornate kindle]

i accept spare stuff for free

yk

[elfin trout]

might just be windows issue

[ornate kindle]

👀

[mystic bough]

But for a PSU, is Seasonic more trusted over Antec?

[mild roost]

not really

[elfin trout]

but either way you don't need a 3070 for just displaying a few screens

[sour dome]

Lol. But you have them as an option

[mild roost]

Brand doesn't equal model

[sour dome]

Factz

[ornate kindle]

buy a asus

psu

[elfin trout]

and again I give you this option
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-2017-config/p/CP-9020140-NA

[mild roost]

Asus PSUs are expensive

Well the good ones

[sour dome]

^^^^^

[ornate kindle]

considering that he has a 3080 ti and a 3070 tell me something he cant buy

[elfin trout]

although which exact Seasonic psu are you talking about?

[mystic bough]

that also wasn't intentional. I was only able to purchase a 3070 for a long time, but I knew it would not be powerful enough for the renders I do, once I landed a 3080 I ended up having 2 cards then.

[mild roost]

But Asus PSUs aren't worth the price they go for

[elfin trout]

oh fun

[mild roost]

You can literally get better PSUs at same price

Or less

[mystic bough]

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-prime-1300w-platinum-ssr-1300pd/p/N82E16817151214 this one

[mild roost]

Just cause someone has money it doesn't mean they have to throw value out

[elfin trout]

keep in mind all Asus does is rebrand a PSU someone else makes and price it higher :p

[mild roost]

It gives more space for other stuff

[vocal tree]

what was that one psu that was literally the perfect psu made by a company that made only that one model

[elfin trout]

oh gawd

that price

overpriced for that

[sour dome]

High price doesn't necessarily mean that its high performance or top tier

[mild roost]

^

nzxt products are basically that

[elfin trout]

@mystic bough I'll point you towards HX plat again, it's just same thing but cheaper, and not from a third party seller
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-2017-config/p/CP-9020140-NA

[sour dome]

Yup, def overpriced

[mystic bough]

So the reason for looking at this one is the PCIE ports, it would be able to accommodate both gpus

[sour dome]

1000%

After owning platinum PSUs, I won't buy anything lower minus some Gold ones.

[elfin trout]

well, hopefully you don't have card that need 3x8pins

[elfin trout]

Platinum is just efficiency rating >:(

[sour dome]

I know

[mystic bough]

I did look at the HX1200 from corsair, but it is limited to 6 8pin PCI-E ports.

My mobo takes 2 8pins (rog crosshair viii extreme), and then the 3080 takes 3, and the 3070 takes 2

[vocal tree]

buy evga br

[sand atlas]

Efficiency only matters for 24/7 systems like servers...

[elfin trout]

oh fun

[sand atlas]

Or mining PCs

[elfin trout]

3x8pin sad

but at least you see what I'm expecting in terms of price for a good PSU in that range

lemme grab something else

[mystic bough]

absolutely

[sand atlas]

You can always buy another cable for that corsair, it's like $3-5, and besides if the 3070 is just going to be for display out you can use a daisy chain

[sour dome]

Great thing about modular PSUs are that you aren't limited to the cables that come with it. You can buy more that the PSU allows

[elfin trout]

meh, not too recommended but it can work

[mystic bough]

I will try the mst hub idea again, if it works I will sell off the 3070, if not I still want to grab up something that is 1200w+ to cover my ass in case I end up having to use it

[elfin trout]

pcpp said this was 280$ but ig there was a sale before, so sf leadex plat se might be another option
https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-platinum-se-sf-1200f14mp-v2-1200w/p/1HU-024C-00037

[mystic bough]

So I thought it wasn't about the cables it comes with rather the ports on the psu. I have been seeing people say "never use a split cable on a gpu, each 8pin should be it's own dedicated cable"

[elfin trout]

it's a good idea to not use a daisy chain cable

[fierce pivot]

Ghd hx plat has 6 pcie/cpu ports, 1 of those will be taken by the cpu, so you'll have 3 for the 3080 ti and 2 for the 3070 ti

[mystic bough]

The Super Flower ones look like they would work, I just never heard of the brand before - which makes me a little leery to put it into my system

[fierce pivot]

Why wouldn't the hx plat work tho?

[mystic bough]

2 for the cpu, the mobo takes 2 8pins, and has an optional 6pin if I need more power which I don't

[elfin trout]

Superflower is a very popular OEM

[fierce pivot]

You wont be able to take advantage of the 1 8 pin cpu unless you're doing extreme overclocking

[mystic bough]

good to know, I will add them to the list to consider !

[elfin trout]

If you know the EVGA g2/p2/t2 series, those are all Superflower Leadex rebrands

[sand atlas]

Normally the ideal method is to not use the split cable but if you're not using much power on that GPU it doesn't matter

[elfin trout]

and those are very good PSUs

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YfK7YJ/super-flower-power-supply-sf1300f14mg or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f7L7YJ/corsair-hx-platinum-1200w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020140-na imo

[elfin trout]

leadex gold works too

[fierce pivot]

Offers a crap tun of pcie/cpu if they really want to have the 2nd 8 pin eps plugged into the board for some reason

[sour dome]

Nice picks

[fierce pivot]

Ty

[sour dome]

Any time

[mystic bough]

awesome, thank you guys for all of you input. This absolutely helps!

[ornate kindle]

all i want is a pc for school

the dell one would.be perfect

so i dont fail it

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop, AMD Ryzen 5 3500 (3.6 - 4.1GHz), 8GB RAM, 256 GB NVMe SSD , NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Super, HDMI, DisplayPort, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Home

for 900 dollars

750 euro

[sour dome]

Don't do it, too much for what it is

[ornate kindle]

fr?

[sand atlas]

That's close to what Newegg charges for a 10400/3060 PC

[blissful thistle]

I mean, that's better than the build pato found ig

Still overpriced but it's better

[blissful thistle]

Yeah but is that ever in stock?

[ornate kindle]

i found this on newegg

[sand atlas]

Yes, and on sale frequently too

[blissful thistle]

Not to mention the shortage in the US isn't as bad as nearly everywhere else

[blissful thistle]

Shipping will cost a fortune

Check hps original website if you're fine with an hp build

[blissful thistle]

Link?

[ornate kindle]

free shipping

FREE SHIPPING from United States

[blissful thistle]

If its from the US that's overpriced

You can find a pc with a 1660s for 800$ here

Let me grab a link off adorama

Idk if they ship out if the US tho

[ornate kindle]

idk man

[sand atlas]

Almost every daily email has a sale like this

[blissful thistle]

Looks like a mini heater but https://www.adorama.com/acdge26aa002.html

[blissful thistle]

That's a completely different build...

Abs has a 2060 build on newegg for 1100, but I haven't seen much better than that from abs even close to this price range

[sand atlas]

I know, I can't link to something that's out of stock and show a sale price because it doesn't show the price 🙃

[blissful thistle]

I'll see if I can find it I'm updating newegg rn

All of newegg

Not the app, newegg

[sand atlas]

Impressive, I don't think even my PC could handle updating that entire server

[ornate kindle]

everything i come accros is overpriced

and noe even good

not

[blissful thistle]

I mean there's this, but its over budget https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194?Item=N82E16883360194&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-194-_-09142021

[ornate kindle]

wish i had that money

💀

[blissful thistle]

Oh one piece of advice

Buy literally anything except skytech

Like

Anything

[ornate kindle]

whats a good

pre build

like 600 euros

[sand atlas]

If they were in stock newegg has tons

[ornate kindle]

hopefully they are by movember

n

[blissful thistle]

Ima do the forbidden

And look on amazon

Sometimes you can get lucky

[ornate kindle]

no amazon sucks

180 shippin here

hell no

[blissful thistle]

Oh oof

[blissful thistle]

Uhh

[blissful thistle]

I got my pc off amszon. It was skytech. That pc no longer exists.

1200$

[ornate kindle]

why

💀

[blissful thistle]

Not Amazon's fault

Bc I didn't know skytech is absolutely awful

[ornate kindle]

whats a good one

[blissful thistle]

I basically paid 1200$ for my gpu, cpu, and 1tb ssd

Abs is amazing

Top tier imo

Hp and dell kinds suck but they have good prices and they suck in a different way

Bad cases and not much you can change

[ornate kindle]

i buy spare stuff

[blissful thistle]

Normally not enough ram

[ornate kindle]

👀🙏😹

[blissful thistle]

Cyberpower and ibuypower tend to be overpriced but make decent pcs

Skytech is literal crap. Like, just throw them out

If you even consider buying them, don't.

[ornate kindle]

is ur pc all gone

[blissful thistle]

Except for the 3060 ti, 3600 and ssd

[ornate kindle]

cpu?

[blissful thistle]

3600

R5 3600

[ornate kindle]

oh

good

[blissful thistle]

I paid 1200 usd before tax for those three parts

[ornate kindle]

is that what u use?

[blissful thistle]

Because skyech is awfuo

Yes

[ornate kindle]

daym

[blissful thistle]

The rest of thebparts are gone

Basically paid 1800usd for a 3060 ti build. Not to mention their customer service is awful

[ornate kindle]

shall have returnted it

[blissful thistle]

I couldn't

I had it for 3 months. Past the return window

It **** out at 4 months

I gtg, have to get back tto my school work

[ornate kindle]

ight

c ya

[fierce pivot]

3060 is like 1.1k usd cheapest but as i told them they shouldn't bother quoting usd cus they in Albania ;-;

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blissful thistle]

Remember in January when there was that Alienware pc with a 3070 for 1300 before tax with a couple rebates?

I saw that one on reddit r/suggestapc

[fierce pivot]

Too bad sitting beside a jet is quiter

And probs cooler xD

[blissful thistle]

Yeah lmao

But woulda been better than my 1800$ 3060 ti build

[fierce pivot]

Oof yikes

[blissful thistle]

I just explained it if you wanna scroll up a minute

[fierce pivot]

Shame you didn't know bout abs, there was a 1.5k 3070 for ages

[blissful thistle]

1200$ skytech build became an 1800$ custom build

[fierce pivot]

Ahh i see

[blissful thistle]

Yeah at first I wanted to build my own only using Amazon. I was a pc noob lmao

[fierce pivot]

It happens sure

[blissful thistle]

Nearly bought a 500$ 1660s

I almost got a better build off amazon

Same specs but 1350$, but it also was a much better maker

I think cyberpower

Sold out the night before i was gonna buy it

Oh btw pato

I tried to oc the 1440p 75hx and you were right

Figured you were but couldn't hurt to try

[fierce pivot]

Sounds bout right lol

[blissful thistle]

Now I got the 11extra hz on my main monitor

Big difference

Now I'm a god at valorant

Obviously

[fierce pivot]

XD

[blissful thistle]

So that means there's not much of a point of finding a miner to trade up my 3060 ti really

Won't see much of a difference with a 3600 at 1080p

I did get an offer for a 6800 tho

A while back

[fierce pivot]

Ohhh

Nice

[blissful thistle]

Was going to but I dont like amd ocing

And im unfamiliar with amd cards

[fierce pivot]

Same as Nvidia ocing?

Instead of + and minus a number you just put in the final number

[blissful thistle]

Yeah I find it annoying, prolly just bc I've never don't it

[fierce pivot]

Eg stock it's 1000mhz to oc +50 you type in 1050mhz lol

[blissful thistle]

But I just know nvidia cards, how drivers work, id rather stick to nvidia

[fierce pivot]

Same difference really but aight

[blissful thistle]

Are they?

I thought amd drivers were buggy often

[hollow gale]

dont you just install MSI afterburner and fiddle with sliders/nobs these days?

[blissful thistle]

It's different with amd

Pato just explained it

I didn't know that's how it worked

With nvidia yes, pretty much

[fierce pivot]

Nah, that was just with the rx 5000 series on release

[tacit wren]

https://imgur.com/a/15Ka6vT imgur album on modern nvidia gpu OC

[blissful thistle]

Ah

Didn't know that

[tacit wren]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sXqI9uiWF9d4ysJPdW1etAwNYaC-UI_FZUKA_3bCVoE/edit#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XprnR5p_dpN9SQfEahWCpkU-Nmnfg6AVSd97PIXpckk/edit

[hollow gale]

wow. that whole thing. seems like decades ago.

[slate creek]

AMD OCing is literally the same as Nvidia OCing except for core clock you get a min and max slider

And you can still use MSI Afterburner if you really wanted to

[minor portal]

qepiz#2929 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

qepiz#2929 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[weary vine]

Absolutely love the fact that you can edit the vbios and flash it onto ur card

[tacit wren]

That's always been a thing

e.g. one of my 770's https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/590951656305459220/883433281796862012/unknown.png

[weary vine]

I thought nvidia cards didnt like edited vbioses?

is that just the new ones?

or am I just wrong

[sand atlas]

Nvidia has encrypted vbios, so the only way to modify it is to flash another card's vbios

[weary vine]

Ahhh yep thats it

[fading torrent]

somebody pin this

[slate creek]

I don’t think that’s a good idea, someone new may see it and think it’s actually a good psu

[fading torrent]

oh

it says 5gbps speed

lmao

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

[fading torrent]

lol

[undone violet]

No

[sand atlas]

10KW power supply would need like 5 power cables and a dedicated high power circuit

[slate creek]

And thiccccc cables

[fierce pivot]

Thiccccc*

[slate creek]

Because suppose you’re getting 600V in it, you’re going to have to handle 166 amps

[tacit wren]

Good performance !

Lol, hp bladecenter's can use about that much power, 4x 2400w psu's

[cedar agate]

best psu around $80? under $100 preferably

found 3 evga 650w gold ones and its confusing me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQqDt8

[sand atlas]

That G5 is a B tier power supply, good enough for a 3070 ti with a good CPU

This A tier unit is 750W for the same price as the 650W unit though
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3VG3C/msi-mpg-a-gf-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf

[elfin trout]

A-gf is neat

Tier list is pinned

[sand atlas]

That one would be good for a 3080 probably, but it looks like that website needs to update the price. The 650W is $89 still though https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3VG3C/msi-mpg-a-gf-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf

[cedar agate]

so i dont need to swap it out? or would you say spending extra $20 is worth it

[sand atlas]

It depends on what you're trying to power with it, what CPU and GPU?

[cedar agate]

i listed the pc parts

[sand atlas]

Oh that was your full list, sorry I blanked

Yeah the G5 is plenty for you

No real need to go higher

[cedar agate]

alrighty ty

[fading torrent]

i found a 1000 watt version of it

[sand atlas]

Is it still $5 because that's still fake

[fading torrent]

what about the $8 3090

they refund if i no get

[fierce pivot]

I'd highly consider getting 3600cl16 ram in that list instead of 3200 and I'd change the ssd to a pilot e

[knotty ruin]

what case for these specs and a 1660 ti

[sand atlas]

P400a or 4000d airflow

[fierce pivot]

I'd swap the aio to an arctic liquid freezer ii and motherboard to a z490 or z590 but cases like falcie said

[knotty ruin]

i get the aio change but why the motherboard? @fierce pivot

[sand atlas]

K processor needs a Z board to overclock

[knotty ruin]

what does that mean?

[sand atlas]

If you want to overclock your processor you need a Z series board

[knotty ruin]

ohh ok

also isnt the aio good enough for the cpu?

[sand atlas]

If you're not going to overclock get the 10700 or 10700F instead of KF and save some money

The AIO isn't worth that price, it's a really low end one, and a loud one at that

[knotty ruin]

what cpu cooler wud u reccomend for the i7-10700kf

also what is a liquid freeser

[fierce pivot]

Arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb/lian li Galahad if you want an aio

[hollow gale]

an AIO

[fierce pivot]

It's a better aio cooler

[knotty ruin]

oh ok

is the NZXT Kraken M22 120mm AIO Liquid Cooler good enough???

[sand atlas]

120mm? No, not even close

There's air coolers that are better than most 120mm AIOs

[elfin trout]

Freezer ii 240mm/280mm should be good in most cases

360mm is neat if it fits

[knotty ruin]

how about: Deepcool Castle 240mm RGB V2 Liquid CPU Cooler

[elfin trout]

still worse than freezer ii or ek-aio or galahad

[knotty ruin]

louder im guessing?

[sand atlas]

That one's just bad from what I remember

[knotty ruin]

how about air cooler

[sand atlas]

Scythe fuma 2

[fierce pivot]

Depending on region*

[knotty ruin]

melbourne (victoria), australia

[knotty ruin]

not in stock anywhere in my region

Noctua NH-D15S good enough???????

@sand atlas @fierce pivot @elfin trout

[fierce pivot]

@knotty ruin https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022 I'd get this

[knotty ruin]

is it quiet

[fierce pivot]

Yeah

[minor portal]

Moulando Barman#4957 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Moulando Barman#4957 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[severe sable]

I need a case that can fit my motherboard can anybody help?? This is the mother board https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plu/p/N82E16813119315?Item=N82E16813119315

[limpid whale]

When you look for a case, make sure it says it can support micro atx.

If a case says it supports atx, it supports mATX too.

If case says biggest size is mITX, it won’t support mATX.

[severe sable]

Ok ty

[severe sable]

https://www.amazon.com/Bgears-b-Voguish-Tempered-Support-Motherboard/dp/B07T4W3BMH/ref=asc_df_B07T4W3BMH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=380200604373&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2388657360999651405&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018788&hvtargid=pla-815220869688&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=82910274452&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=380200604373&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2388657360999651405&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018788&hvtargid=pla-815220869688 this would work

[limpid whale]

I mean that’s a good general rule, there may be edge cases where this isn’t true. Best solution is to google supported motherboard size.

[severe sable]

Why the hell is the link so long

[limpid whale]

Yes that would work.

It says it supports MicroATX.

[severe sable]

Ok Thanks Have a good day!

[limpid whale]

You too.

[hollow gale]

no, thats a bad case. 0 sources of fresh air

[fierce pivot]

That case looks like an oven, i would recommend the p400a or 4000d airflow instead

[severe sable]

The what????!!

[hollow gale]

phanteks P400A, Corsair 4000d Airflow

[fierce pivot]

What victor said

[hollow gale]

Also check out the Coolermaster NR600

[elfin trout]

td500 mesh p500a coolermaster h500 p360a metalicgear neo air etc

fractal design torrent, meshify c

bunch of good cases to choose from if you don't already own that case

[fierce pivot]

Cougar mx330 g air

P360a price has gone up to p400a digitalish pricing :/

[elfin trout]

I mean, iirc it's still around 70-80$

[hollow gale]

Lian Li Lancool ii mesh, Lancool 215

[elfin trout]

oh 80$ now, sad

[fierce pivot]

It's 80$ and p400a digital is 90$, the non digital is 65$

It was great cuz it used to be like 60-65$

[elfin trout]

ya

[fierce pivot]

Imho at that stage get a 65$ p400a and an arctic p12 for the p360a replacement if they don't mind no rgb

At least you get 360 rad support then

[odd flare]

why is the matx socket smaller than the atx

matx is same width just shorter

as atx

[mild roost]

Something with warped pics I guess

[limpid whale]

If you look closely the pic is warped.

Greatly reduced for whatever reason.

[deft creek]

Can anyone help me set up a few cables for my psu it’s kinda confusing

[elfin trout]

what about them

[deft creek]

The pcie cable I don’t know which head to plug into

[elfin trout]

the side that splits to 6+2 goes into GPU

the other side goes into PSU

[slate creek]

Fractal recalled the torrent, you can’t buy it currently because of a problem with the built in fan controller

[elfin trout]

afaik they're saying just don't use the hub, and are working on a fix very soon

[slate creek]

Only way to actually buy one rn is to pay $300 for it. You can’t buy a new one for the normal price

Still isn’t that good value if you ask me for it’s MSRP

$200 is a bit steep for what it is

[sand atlas]

$200 is fine for a huge case with massive fans like that

[elfin trout]

but yea once fix out it'll be fine

[slate creek]

Yeah

It’s barely bigger than a Lancool II Mesh and can’t even top mount a rad

And I’d expect there to be a lot less plastic for $200

[mild roost]

Top mount psu is instant no to top mount for rad

[half ether]

Any gopd psu under 60 bucks?

[hollow gale]

check out the pinned comment, with ranked PSUs, you can use that as a guide

[fierce pivot]

For what specs?

[half ether]

I5 10400f 1050ti 16gb ram 120gb ssd 1tb and 500 gb hdd msi b560m pro vdh wifi mobo

[fierce pivot]

What country?

If us, this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2K2FT/segotep-gp-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

[half ether]

Philippinrs

[fierce pivot]

What's the site for that area again?

[half ether]

Shopee or lazada mate

[fierce pivot]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/cooler-master-mwe-v2-550w-80-bronze-certified-power-supply-120mm-hdb-fan-flat-black-cables-mpe-5501-acaab-i1253182646-s4505054701.html?search=1 probs this then

[minor portal]

cheesy#9293 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cheesy#9293 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[elfin trout]

shopee is nice

[fierce pivot]

All shopee gave me where no name psus

[mild roost]

I like lazada in where I live lel

[shadow tangle]

Should I buy now

Corsair RM650, RM Series, 80 Plus Gold Certified, 650 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RYNFR8R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_fabc_SNN4YKCGZWQPZY1K1JT4

A teir PSU and 60£

Cause deal

[mild roost]

what's your current psu?

[shadow tangle]

450 BR or somin

A bomb basically

[mild roost]

yeah it's worth it

nah br ain't a bomb tbh

just meh

[shadow tangle]

Ima upgrade to a 3060 or ti later too

[mild roost]

that should do fine

the rm650

[shadow tangle]

Yer

[fierce pivot]

Nice price and upgrade if you plan to put a better gpu in your system soon

[minor portal]

E4_Mafia#3466 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

E4_Mafia#3466 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[light stratus]

Best led strips to put under a case?

[fierce pivot]

Ones you can find for a decent price and work there's not much to them tbh, mb try find one with a decent remote or something

[minor portal]

oof mommy#0752 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

oof mommy#0752 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[light stratus]

I found one that has an RGB header thing

Can I use the mobo rgb software even though the mobo itself doesn't have rgb

Or can I download other softwares

[fierce pivot]

The mobo will have to have rgb pins

What mobo is it?

[light stratus]

b550m elite

w8 I can check

[fierce pivot]

Aorus?

That's rgb fusion

[light stratus]

Gigabyte has 3 pin rgb headers right?

Ok so it will work

[fierce pivot]

It depends on the board but should have a 3 pin rgb

[mild roost]

It's aorus elite

So that should have argb

[hearty ruin]

Any suggestions for a white case?

[vocal tree]

the one with the white on it

[hearty ruin]

Ah yes thank you

[pastel adder]

Hey so i know this is a bit random, but i'm looking at moving to America, and i was wondering if i'd need to buy a whole new PSU or if there is any place i can buy a power cable that'll be good for my PSU? I have the Corsair HX1200, 80+ platinum :)

[fierce pivot]

P400a digital, 4000d airflow,p500a digital

[fierce pivot]

You'll just be able to buy a kettle lead with a NA plug, i believe the use a gauge system (for wire thickness etc), anything that's 18 gauge or lower should do nicely

[shadow tangle]

psu comes monday

[fierce pivot]

Nice

[hearty ruin]

Ty

[elfin trout]

But you should also be able to contact Corsair for a plug

[fierce pivot]

Ohh ya that too

[hearty ruin]

Sorry I just have one more question. If you ignore pricing and just focus on performance, in your opinion what’s the best case under $300?

Just out of curiosity

[fierce pivot]

Why would you spend 300$ on a case ;-;

[mild roost]

^

well if you want there's 7000d

slap all the fans in

[fierce pivot]

P500a/5000d airflow/fractal torrent (when the hub issue is fixed and back on market)

[mild roost]

I don't like torrent tbh

Top mount psu in 2021?

[hearty ruin]

Highly doubt I will, but I have extra budget and I’m curious

[mild roost]

Not for me

It's like going back to 90's with top mount psus

[hearty ruin]

What about this one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kx448d/corsair-crystal-series-680x-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011168-ww

[mild roost]

nope

[fierce pivot]

I don't either but giving options

[mild roost]

ye

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-you-adam-sandler-gif-14612875

[mild roost]

inb4 skiptrace comes in and raves about the torrent

[hearty ruin]

Lol

Alr thanks

[fierce pivot]

Not much point going over 150-200$ really, there is the 7000d airflow but thats for custom loops where you will use thick tall rads

[mild roost]

^

[hearty ruin]

Yeah, I was more curious than anything

[mild roost]

or just go o11d if you go custom loop

just in case

[hearty ruin]

Unless there’s some god case that pops up lmao

[fierce pivot]

P500a digital is the god case

Something being good in pc market needs good price too

[hearty ruin]

I’m assuming it all looks better irl

Than in pictures

Lol

[mild roost]

yeah

I used to be not too keen of rgb

But I actually like it lmao

[hearty ruin]

Pics of P500a…

[mild roost]

Not a need tho, just nice to have

[hearty ruin]

Yeah, and you can always just leave them off

[mild roost]

ye

[hearty ruin]

I sound really stupid rn don’t I lol

[mild roost]

nah it's just topic basically died

[elfin trout]

Vintage has some nice pics of his p500a

[fierce pivot]

None from the front tho or with the rgb on

[shadow tangle]

scam

@sharp fox can u delete

noice

[solemn grove]

Hey guys, I have a question on cases for more aesthetic display. I have a Fractal Design r6 and am looking to use that for my streaming pc and buy a new case for my gaming pc (displayed on my desk). I kinda like thermaltake's core p3 and the o11 dynamic. Is there anything else between those two or other than those two that I should consider? My case is mainly going to display the nzxt kraken and a vertical mount for the 3090.

Thanks for the help~

[fierce pivot]

Ehh why do you need a separate streaming pc, just use nvenc

[tacit wren]

@round pike Why are these so cheap? https://www.ebay.com/itm/184741931877

I need two for an r840

[sand atlas]

If I had to guess it's cheap due to the small number of compatible models

Low demand and all

[tacit wren]

Those are like $400+ new lol

Guessing they "fell off the back of a truck"

[fierce pivot]

that is a suspiciously good price lol

[sand atlas]

That's a really highly rated seller so not likely, something else has to be a factor there

[round pike]

Looks like they have a lot of dell equipment for sale

All similarly marked down

[tacit wren]

Yeah, much of the rest is reasonably priced though

These stand out by far

PSU's for Rx40 are much less common used than Rx30 or earlier

No idea what "reversed dlt" means

[round pike]

https://youtu.be/5Pq-y0GBNcM

what is this

[tacit wren]

lol, trying to farm clicks probably

Also not sure what the difference in spec between the two dpn's is XYK93 vs 960VR

[sand atlas]

Interesting, it looks like the 2000W rating is only on high line voltage, 200V+, and on low line 100-140V mode it's only a 1000W

[tacit wren]

That's normal for any server psu over 1000w or so

[sand atlas]

I haven't done much work with high power servers so it's interesting to me

All the servers I work with are under 800W

[tacit wren]

Yeah, less current through the primary side is needed at 240v

The really high end stuff can also run off -48v dc

[pastel adder]

Kettle lead with a NA plug?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah kettle lead is the name of that 3 prong connector that goes into your power supply

[torpid garnet]

a silly question but its important for me, Does having an expensive TITANIUM grade 1k watt powersupply will save me in the longer run than cheaper a GOLD grade psu ?? I can save almost 100+$ with GOLD psu but, will the Titanium psu will pay off in the longer run considering its high efficiency rating with 12 yrs warranty ??

[elfin trout]

What specific models

@torpid garnet what are you using it for

There's more to PSUs than just the efficiency rating

And we just need more information to tell you a concrete answer

[torpid garnet]

Light machine learning my pc can guzzle 'MAXIMUM' 750w

[blissful thistle]

What's the specs

[torpid garnet]

what you want to ask to give me a specific answer ??

[elfin trout]

Which PSUs are you comparing

[blissful thistle]

Yes?

What's your cpu and gpu going to be

[elfin trout]

Some gold PSUs are better than others, and there's just a bomb that's a gold rated PSU

[blissful thistle]

You don't like having a bomb in your pc?

It adds to the fun

[elfin trout]

(cough p-gm cough)

[torpid garnet]

specefically SEASONIC 1000W Titanium grade 12+ years PSU and other GOLD grade psus of GOOD BRANDS

[elfin trout]

Don't go by brand, go by the model, but anyways

What price do you see for the prime titanium?

[torpid garnet]

413$ for seasonic

[elfin trout]

(reason being there are very good PSUs at pretty good prices, hx platinum 1000w at 205$ for example, or a MSI A-GF 850w at around 110$)

[torpid garnet]

256$ for asus strix gold 100w

1000*

[elfin trout]

And on the efficiency bit, is it just a money concern?

Because the difference from 80+ gold to 80+ plat or titanium is pretty small in terms of efficiency

[torpid garnet]

ohhh

[blissful thistle]

While it's good quality you're overpaying for the strix tax

[torpid garnet]

but what about in the longer run ? doesnt those small efficiency differences add up ??

[iron mural]

hello

[dark elm]

hola

[elfin trout]

I mean, let's just assume you draw 1kw for sake of simplicity, 24kwh a day, average electricity price is around 10c/kwh in the us in general, the entire bill for a year of 24/7 operation at 100% load would be 876$, if the PSU was 1% less efficient, that's 884.76$, just 8.76$ more a year.

And efficiency between PSUs tend to be like 1% 2% difference

That won't really add up to the 200$ difference easily

And that's assuming you pull 1000w the whole time, every day, every moment

[torpid garnet]

oooooooooouuuuu

nice explanation

[elfin trout]

Simplified but yea

[torpid garnet]

so this means titaniums not much worthy than 'GOOD' quality golds ???

[elfin trout]

@torpid garnet also keep in mind different PSU efficiencies are different, the rating is just a threshold it meets, for example, the EVGA G2 is a gold rated PSU, but G2 actually meets all the requirements for being 80+ platinum rated

[elfin trout]

PSU quality is a rabbit hole that's quite annoying.
This tier list is nice, they list their methodology and sources.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list/

I'll link PSUs I mentioned earlier

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-2017-config/p/CP-9020139-NA

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MPG-Power-Supply-PSU/dp/B08PDZQZN2/

[torpid garnet]

thanx

[elfin trout]

@torpid garnet here's the specifics on requirements for each rating

[blissful thistle]

Could you explain what this means? I've never understood the ratings well

[elfin trout]

Gotta go for a moment, will respond in a few min.

[blissful thistle]

Ty

[torpid garnet]

i think you can get a pretty good explanation by just jumping over to my asked question

this dude explained well

[blissful thistle]

I know how the efficiencies work, sort of

Just not what these percents mean

Is it how much of the power is actually going into the system?

[elfin trout]

Basically, since your PSU needs to swap power from your outlet (being 240v or 120v or 115v or whatever where you live) into the 12v, 5v, and 3.3v rails that your components use, they have to use various methods to change that voltage, and also swap from ac to dc. That process is not perfect, some power will be lost.

[mild roost]

it's basically how efficient it is in coverting ac to dc power according to its rated wattage

yep

[elfin trout]

to explain the chart,

[blissful thistle]

Ohh

So basically a white rated psu will lose a significant amount of power compared to a gold or plat?

[elfin trout]

On the left is how much load, 10% load on a 850w PSU means you're drawing 85w on the PC side, for example. And each value for the ratings mean how efficient it has to be at that load

[mild roost]

yep

wastes it in heat

[elfin trout]

significant? I wouldn't really say so considering how much you really use them, but some

[blissful thistle]

Oh also another question that's pretty much completely unrelated

If I have a 750w psu and my system is only using 200

Wait nvm

Stupid question

Answered it myself

If the power was all getting pulled it would have nowhere to go

[elfin trout]

and also, it's measured in how much it can output (750w outputs 750w for the PC, if it's 90% efficient, it's drawing like 840w from the wall, and giving that 750w for the PC)

[blissful thistle]

So no it isn't pulling 750e when only needing 300

[blissful thistle]

Ohhhh

I thought it was losing power from the 750w

[mild roost]

Yeah it won't put out 750w all time

It delivers as much the system demands

[elfin trout]

yea if your components are only drawing 500w, you're only pulling like 550w from the wall

but yea

[blissful thistle]

Yeah I answered that myself, it'd break otherwise lol

[mild roost]

If the system wants too much, protections either kicks in or it dies

depends on the quality

[shadow tangle]

It came

[sour dome]

Cool

[mild roost]

the word on the psu

power play

sounds like a way to die from messing with the psu

[random arch]

anybody have a sugestion on a 750 watt psu mine is 7 years old and starting to get a little freaky i think lol. i was looking at the rm750x , evga 750 p2 , and superflowers 750 gold+

[tacit wren]

#tech-deals message

[shadow tangle]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list/

if noone responds or u wanna hav a look for urself just control f if u find a psu and check it on here

or just take one from a teir and check price of it

[fierce pivot]

That link brings me to the bottom of #tech-deals

[tacit wren]

Click it again

It's matt's post, the argb 750w leadex

[fierce pivot]

Still bottom lol

Mb mobile issue

[odd rapids]

Mobile does that for me as well

It's a pain lol

[fierce pivot]

@random arch if you're in the us I'd recommend the msi agf 750w instead it's 88$ instead of the one forks linked , both are great but purely just because the msi agf is cheaper, and if you have the room to spend more/dont mind spending more the msi agf 850w is only 100$ atm https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=750000000000,2000000000000&m=27 here's a link to both of them

[tacit wren]

here https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-argb-sf-750f14rg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00002

I think the rgb looks tacky there, but maybe you can turn it off.

[fierce pivot]

Same, but why not just get agf for cheaper?

[tacit wren]

I just saw that link matt posted in #tech-deals - if you think there's a more suitable unit - post here

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=750000000000,2000000000000&m=27

Both the msi agf 750w and 850w

Pcpp lying Amazon says 850w is 110 :(

;-;

Woops just doxxed myself

Amazon grr

[random arch]

oh snap ill check it out tyty

[fierce pivot]

Np

[random arch]

idident know msi made psus lol

[fierce pivot]

Well only a few companies actually make psus (the oems, super flower, seasonic etc) but yeah it's newish

[random arch]

oh i see

oh and its gottin high reviews how tf did i not see this

[vocal tree]

so who's making all the exceptionally bad ones

it would be funny if there was a psu super-villain

[verbal oak]

such as...

[fierce pivot]

Nice find on the cx650 aegis

[verbal oak]

stolen from vice

[fierce pivot]

Vice?

[verbal oak]

viceshooter?

oh hes not in this server

someone from lab

[fierce pivot]

[hollow gale]

https://nzxt.com/product/h510-flow

They freakin DID IT! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[minor portal]

Aegis#5729 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[verbal oak]

sorry i forgor

[verbal oak]

ok but who would buy this 💩

like its 110 dollars

LOLOL

[hollow gale]

I mean, they addressed the biggest issue with the case, which has always been good looking.

[verbal oak]

yea but why buy this when you can get like an nr600 for half the price

it has a very similar look as well

among other cases

the fara r1 also has a similar aesthetic

and is cheaper

I agree

you seen the inwin alice?

[hollow gale]

Agree, it's not a lot of case for the price, but it's not horrible.

[fierce pivot]

Price asside idk because the new h510 airflow will probs not sell a lot as majority of people who buy the h510 buy it cuz it doesn't have "icky mesh" lol

[hollow gale]

🤣

[verbal oak]

https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/alice

[fierce pivot]

[verbal oak]

average linus tech tips/bitwit/jayztwocentz viewer be like

yea its pretty crazy

[hollow gale]

Bro, that's a Milk crate

[verbal oak]

💀

[fierce pivot]

But if they don't have mesh fobia then they can just buy a 4000d airflow which they will deff know about or p400a(less marketed tho)

[hollow gale]

The h510 is sleek and modern, and looks expensive.

[verbal oak]

4000d with h510 colorway 😳

custom paint job??

[fierce pivot]

Just paint at that point lol

[fringe granite]

garbage website

trying to read it and it keeps scrolling itself back up to the top

[verbal oak]

rip

[fringe granite]

like why lol

atx case with only 300mm graphics card clearance

rip

[fierce pivot]

meshify c with 315

[fringe granite]

315 is still a lot better than 300

[fierce pivot]

1.5cm extra tho not too much more

[fringe granite]

I mean if you think about it

it adds compatibility for every graphics card that's above 300mm and below 315mm lol

that's quite a few

[fierce pivot]

Is it?

Never looked into gpu length that much

@fringe granite tuf 3070 ti 299.9mm just about fit lol

Okay wow that's actually a lot

You'd just be like missing a middle fan in the front kek

[fringe granite]

pog

299.9

mine is 320 so it doesn't fit into either

[fierce pivot]

your tuf card? how it it grown 20.1mm?

[fringe granite]

no my vision

[fierce pivot]

ohh right lol i was confused cuz i thought you had a 3070(ti) tuf mining

[fringe granite]

no I don't have 3070ti

[fierce pivot]

3070 tho? Assuming they the same size as basically same card? Could be wrong tho

[fringe granite]

I think tuf 3070/3070ti/3080 should all be the same cooler

[fierce pivot]

I thought so but i stg you have some tuf card mining or am i tripping

[fringe granite]

yeah

I was gonna sell it along with my old pc

but that guy that bought it wanted the PC without the 3070

cause he had his own 3070

[hoary epoch]

My 3090 is like 317.5mm

But 5000d fits it and a front mounted freezer ii

[fierce pivot]

5000d is way longer tho lmao

[hoary epoch]

Yeah i noticed and when i set it on my desk i was worried cause i had just enough room to hold it on there

[marble nimbus]

any case recommendations I have a microwave nzxt case so something that doesn't cook my meals

[vocal tree]

lol

[marble nimbus]

what about a Cooler MasterMCM-M500?

or cooler master mesh td500

idk good cases

[mild roost]

4000D/5000D (airflow), P400A/P500A digital

[marble nimbus]

any1 else?

[vocal tree]

do you need an atx case

if not there's some decent micro cases

[marble nimbus]

atx

Im not looking into micro cases srry

[vocal tree]

lol why the apology

[mild roost]

all the cases are atx

that i mentioned

[fierce pivot]

Td500 mesh is okay, little cable management room tho from what I've heard, i whole heartedly agree with foxys suggestions

[odd flare]

strix 3060 ti and 3090 have the same cooler

same for ftw3

and aorus master

tuf should be the same afaik

[fierce pivot]

Isn't aorus master like 4 slots for 3080 ti/3090 instead or something?

[slate creek]

Yeah pretty much

[fierce pivot]

But the 3060 ti one is hardly 4 slots right?

[slate creek]

3060ti Aorus master is either 2.5 or 3

Don’t remember exactly

[fierce pivot]

That's what i thought they are same design but the 80s and 90 are chonkier

[slate creek]

80s and 90s are 4 slot, 3070ti and below I think is 3

[fierce pivot]

Yeah no point to put a 4 slot cooler on a 3070

[slate creek]

6800xt Aorus master is 3 slots

Not sure about the other AMD cards

Well technically 3.2 slots

[sudden temple]

@open quartz why can’t you complain about h510 anymore? Are you actually serious

[fierce pivot]

They refering to the h510 airflow, but it's just a worse more expensive 4000d airflow copy

And smaller

[verbal oak]

loterally

[fierce pivot]

If you want smaller just get p360a/cougar mx330 g air/metallic gear neo air

[verbal oak]

neo air mmmmma

[fierce pivot]

Mmmmma?

[torn sundial]

My Chassis Fan isnt working, the cable attached to the fan has a "M3 CNDZ" cable and a... SATA? Cable? And the pins look weird, im not sure where to connect this

This chassis is an Nfortec Lynx btw

[mild roost]

It's probably for fan hub, the sata

[torn sundial]

Fan hub?

[mild roost]

ye

Fan hubs uses sata to power

[minor portal]

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[slate creek]

Mmmmmaaaaammmmmaaaaaaa

[vocal tree]

oooooooooo

[fierce pivot]

[fierce pivot]

Scam

[sharp lintel]

$50, Thoughts?

[verbal oak]

looks pretty nice

[surreal magnet]

good looking case imo

front intake looks kinda sus

but for something like a 10400

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[verbal oak]

looks like mesh to me

[surreal magnet]

looks like a metal sheet with a few holes

not quite mesh

but also not as bad as Q500L

[verbal oak]

hmm ig

looks like mesh from afar

[knotty ruin]

what case for this pc:

[sharp lintel]

Any atx case

[sand atlas]

Looks like photoshop to me lol, the different parts have different resolutions and lighting

[mild roost]

The case is legit tho

[weary vine]

DAMN thats real good attention to detail

[mild roost]

The pics might be wonky

[sand atlas]

I've gotten very good at spotting fake pics on reddit lol

[mild roost]

But it's chosen by amazon, so hmm

[sand atlas]

That doesn't mean jack tbh

[mild roost]

true

Well it's still sold by antec themselves

So it's not scam

[sand atlas]

There's plenty of garbage stuff that's "amazon choice"

[weary vine]

That just means a lotta people bought it

[mild roost]

smol case

m-atx

but then again it's only 50

yeah but it's still sold by antec

[weary vine]

Yeah its a sus case tbh

I dont like how it looks either

[sand atlas]

That just makes it more pathetic that they can't take an actual picture and instead have to slap 2 together imo

[mild roost]

tru

They literally sell em by themselves

Not having one just to take pics is weird lmao

[weary vine]

BRUH THE FOOT IS WONKY

LMFAO

[sand atlas]

For a cheapo case I guess it's forgivable to let them save some money any way they can but that doesn't bode well for other things like overall quality

[mild roost]

for that price in thailand

i could already get better case, it even fits atx iirc

the silverstone fara r1 pro

has all the fans in the case stock

[fierce pivot]

Looks okay but I'd grab a metallicgear neo air or cougar mx330 g air for an extra 10$ or if you can't do that cougar mx 330 x/deepcool mattrex 50/thermaltake versa are 50$ too

[vocal tree]

I'd still be buying versa h18s :)

are the slot covers pop-outs or proper replaceable covers?

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[ancient nebula]

Does corsair make good power supplies?

[fierce pivot]

They make some good and some bad

[ancient nebula]

Examples

@fierce pivot

[vocal tree]

cx good

[fierce pivot]

Examples of good psus? Or what?

Or of just good and bad corsair ones?

[ancient nebula]

Yes

Give examples of good and bad ones

(In your opinion)

[fierce pivot]

Well it's just not opinion based these are facts

A great power supply is the msi agf

An awful one is the gigabyte pgm

Sorry, gigabomb pgm

[elfin trout]

For more fun example, Bitfenix Whisper M is great, Corsair VS sucks

[stiff kernel]

are blue keycaps the deep clicky ones?

[fallen gust]

idk

[elfin trout]

Are you talking about keyboards.....?

[stiff kernel]

yes

[elfin trout]

Blue switches are the clicky switches

Keycaps don't matter much for clicky

[stiff kernel]

i mean switches

ty

i love clicky

[elfin trout]

If you have hotswap board, there are many more clicky options

Like outemu Phoenix

[stiff kernel]

whats hotswap?

[mild roost]

Swappable switches without needing to desolder

[odd flare]

cxm

[elfin trout]

Vs worse

[odd flare]

CX green label

hah!

[elfin trout]

Vs 2012 worse

[odd flare]

damn

[ancient nebula]

I bought a Cooler Master psu for 20 dollars

[wanton briar]

Which PSU?

[ancient nebula]

The MVE 500

[slate creek]

I know the Gigabyte PGMs are bombs but how are the Aorus PGMs?

[fierce pivot]

Fine lol

[slate creek]

Ahh ok

I’d laugh so hard if they were just a bigger bomb

[fierce pivot]

Kek

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[scenic lance]

MEE6 kinda cringe ngl, anyways, any good cases yall would recommend?

[wanton briar]

P400a, P360a, P500a, Lancool II Mesh, 4000D Airflow, 5000D Airflow

[fierce pivot]

For a bit budgeter:cougar mx330 g air, metallicgear neo air

[minor portal]

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[hearty minnow]

how's the airflow on the 5000x?

[fierce pivot]

meh

[hoary epoch]

It has mediocre airflow would suggest a 5000D airflow and get some rgb fans instead which is cheaper than the 5000x

[fierce pivot]

way to expensive and meh

[hoary epoch]

But if you want more value there are so many other options with greater airflow and have rgb fans

[hoary epoch]

What kind of build you going for and what size mobo and parts will you be using

[fierce pivot]

id reccomend p500a or 5000d airflow instead

[hoary epoch]

Ive yet to see what a p500a looks like

And also depends on what their components could be cause the case size could probably be downsized if they get smaller parts cause even a 5000d in my use case with a 3090 gpu and front mounted 360mm rad i can still fit a whole probably 120mm fan between the two

Okay if budget go p500a and comes with rgb fans nice..

[elfin trout]

P500a isn't just a budget option

[fierce pivot]

Look at photos posted by vintageracer in this disc

[elfin trout]

It's just a neat case

Corsair doesn't give you screws sorted in a small box

Phanteks does for p500a

[hoary epoch]

I already looked at case and i say its budget over the 5000d as thats like 164 iirc from my last time i bought it

And p500a comes with rgb fans while 5000d doesnt

[fierce pivot]

5000d just is a meh price

[elfin trout]

I mean, 5000d is just overpriced imo

P500a good price

[hoary epoch]

Yeah

I learned my lesson but i still love the door panel and the side airflow intake which im going to get some artic p12s to slide in to get max airflow running positive pressure

[hearty minnow]

i got pretty big build i think

3080 with an rog strix x570f ryzen 3900xt

[hoary epoch]

P500A at best

Running aio or air cooling for cpu?

[hearty minnow]

it's a kraken aio

[hoary epoch]

Poor cpu

[hearty minnow]

i haven't had any issues with temps tbh

is it that bad?

[hoary epoch]

Not worth the value and it performs poorly

What size kraken you got? 240mm or 360mm

[hearty minnow]

lemme double check

[hoary epoch]

2 fans or 3 fans?

[hearty minnow]

280mm

2 fans

[hoary epoch]

Oh 280mm

I forget those exist

Did you order it or have you had it for a while now?

[hearty minnow]

i've had all these parts for a while tbh

but the case and psu need an upgrade