What's the highest GPU you plan to get, and you can plan the PSU around that
#cases-psu-and-cooling
sand atlas
sand atlas
So 3060 ti
hidden lance
if i can find one, i heard the market isnt great rn
sand atlas
It's possible if you're persistent
minor portalBOT
Randall Raines#7042 has been warned
sand atlas
Watch those long links lol
scenic lance
will this glass piece work with the Thermaltake H200 case?
https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-fd-acc-wnd-def-r6-bk-tgl-black/p/N82E16811994066
sand atlas
Probably not. Not only do the dimensions need to be exactly the same, the mounting holes need to be in the exact same place too
sand atlas
The fractal is much longer
scenic lance
@sand atlas hmm so I have to buy a new case just for the glass if mine broke
because no1 sells it
sand atlas
Or contact support and see if they'll send one
scenic lance
thermal lake support?
sand atlas
Yeah
wanton briar
You should still be able to buy the side panel from Thermaltake
Even if not under warranty
scenic lance
@wanton briarhow do i post a picture in here
sand atlas
DM it to me and I'll post it
Usually you need to wait for your name to turn green, anti-bot measures
Good thing it wouldn't let you post it too, if that's your real name
Here's the important part
scenic lance
lol thanks
wanton briar
So you have no other option than buying a new case
If it truly is no longer under warranty
But honestly I would just try to RMA it
Maybe there is a chance they will allow it anyway
scenic lance
Ill try thanks guys big bummer'
supple orchid
oi is corsair psu good?
sand atlas
oi is corsair psu good?
Which one exactly? Some are good, others less so
supple orchid
uhhh
supple orchid
Which one exactly? Some are good, others less so
Corsair RM650 80 Plus Gold Full Modular
sand atlas
RM is good
supple orchid
ok :)
sand atlas
Top tier even
supple orchid
woah
sand atlas
Specifically, the black and white label ones are top tier. Avoid orange label, the 2013 version.
supple orchid
Specifically, the black and white label ones are top tier. Avoid orange label, t...
ye he
it a black one
fierce pivot
Rm is good but see what the price of other a tiers are like, in the us it's usually more expensive than msi agf which is better
fickle bison
When it comes to cable extensions. Can you use any extensions for any PSU. Or do certain extensions only work for specific PSUs?
I have found that i can get cable extensions from phanteks which is a spare part listed in the manual.
https://www.phanteks.com/Extension-Combo.html
But my PSU is not a Phanteks one. It's an EVO Labs. I dont know if there are certain rules on these things etc
Would be nice to change the cables up because the ketchup and mustard look isn't doing it for me anymore
sand atlas
Extensions usually work with anything since they don't change pinouts. These ones are labeled as universal on other sites as well.
fickle bison
Ah nice so i should be able to get this kit and then stuff the defaults down into the "basement" of the PC
Thanks
tranquil tundra
Could I post a question about 2 cables in here related to my power supply? Not sure if there's a general questions channel or if stuff like that is appropriate. I'm not sure where else to ask
hoary epoch
Ots related to psu so ask what you need to
tranquil tundra
Oh I was going to send a pic, didn't realize I cant in this channel
I have 2 sata cables for my SSD and I'm not sure whats the difference
hoary epoch
Not yet you have to be level 3
tranquil tundra
To plug into my psu
hoary epoch
You can dm the pics to me
tranquil tundra
One of them has the top middle pin missing and one has the bottom left pin missing
I'm not sure what that means
mild roost
hmm
hoary epoch
Its standard from what ive noticed from my cables as well
lilac saffron
Thinking about making a small igpu computer, any suggestions for cases that would leave enough room for later activities (ie potential medium sized gpu addition) but still be very portable
hoary epoch
Well first question is budget and then what size motherboard will you be using
elfin trout
assuming itx for small, check nr200p (and max) and tu150
lilac saffron
700$ probably, less if possible. Mini itx
hoary epoch
Im just worried about that medium gpu that they mentioned but idk much about itx cases and their sizing honestly
lilac saffron
Medium gpu is just incase I want to play around in the case later, the computer Id be building rn would not need a gpu at all. I already have a main computer but usually leave it running simple programs all day and would prefer to have a secondary system for it
lilac saffron
It is by no means a requirement that it have space for a gpu of that size.
mild roost
the nr200p seems to have space for not too big cards if you wanna add
elfin trout
nr200p and tu150 will both be able to fit okay sized GPUs
lilac saffron
Both of those look like they would work
elfin trout
nr200p will support longer cards
(330mm max card length vs 300mm max card length)
For perspective, 3080 FE is 285mm long, 3090 FE is 336mm long
lilac saffron
Yeah, definitely the better option if I want to spec it up later
elfin trout
But also like 3090 ftw3 is 300mm long
lilac saffron
Neat, it could even fit my main pc’s graphics card
subtle solstice
so im measuring the voltages on my pcie 8 pin connector after i cleaned it, and now all the bottom pins are measuring 12 volts, is this normal on a corsair psu even though only 3 of the bottom pins should be 12 volts?
elfin trout
Are you measuring PSU side or graphics card side?
and bottom 4 pins all being 12v sounds like eps12v
fading torrent
case
sand atlas
case
Why do you always do this? You know spamming won't level you up and is against the rules right?
fading torrent
im not spamming
i know messages must have a 1 min gap for xp
so its obviously not that
sand atlas
So why all the 1 word messages in a bunch of channels?
That sounds like spam in my book
wanton briar
That is spamming.
strange breach
That is spamming.
subtle solstice
Are you measuring PSU side or graphics card side?
its gpu side
also it is a corsair cx750m
elfin trout
Does not sound correct
hollow badge
what would be a good fully modular 650w power supply that isnt over 100
hollow badge
ok im looking at an evga one but it kinda looks like it doesnt have that many plugs is that a thing do some have more then others or am i just looking at it wrong
elfin trout
Wat
elfin trout
A-gf and amp are just straight up better PSUs in general than b5 btw
hollow badge
ok but the b5 rn is 60 bucks
and im not old enough to have a job so kinda hard to make money
elfin trout
B5 works if you want it, it's not blowing up tier
stray mist
What PSU do you guys recommend for cards like RTX3070 or equivalent in the future (like 4070, etc.) kinda like futureproof
i was thinking EVGA 650W but like i dont know the ratings/model like B5, G2, etc. and what that means
elfin trout
@stray mist just use this
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
I'd grab like a a-gf 750w or phanteks amp 750w or revolution d.f. 750w
stray mist
<@!333606016413466624> just use this
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psu...
alright thanks!
stray mist
yup i looked at it and i think ima get the cheapest one u said, MSI MPG AGF, but on the tier list its still pretty high so yeah
really thx
elfin trout
yeye
fading torrent
i bought the corsair hxi 750 watt psu for $129 i think
is good
weary vine
too late to ask now isnt it
fading torrent
true
weary vine
also look up where it is on the list I sent you
fading torrent
it says a tier i think
now im questioning why i asked
unreal totem
Anyone have any thoughts on this EVGA Supernova 850? Saw that it was on sale on Newegg and was curious if it’s worth it
https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-g6-220-g6-0850-x1-850w/p/N82E16817438212
fierce pivot
Not worth it, I'd grab an msi agf or enermax revolution d.f. instead, both cheaper and better
unreal totem
Perfect tyvm
fierce pivot
Np
stray mist
what is difference between multi and single-rail PSU on that LTT tier list
scenic lance
Cooler Master MWE gold 750 V2, 750W, 80 PLUS Gold
The one im going to buy
not fully medular
It didn't mention it being modular
fierce pivot
what is difference between multi and single-rail PSU on that LTT tier list
Multi rail is better
elfin trout
it's weird
fierce pivot
Multi rail spreads the load on the different rails instead of just 1 rail
elfin trout
multi rail better for 750w+ PSUs for separate protection triggering
but for the rest
single rail and multi rail perform practically the same
heck, at lower wattages, you have multi rail like 400w psus because it can be cheaper to stuff in a bunch of cheap rails than just make it a single good 12v rail
stray mist
and what is semi vs modular sorry for so many questions :P
elfin trout
modularity is only about the cables
fierce pivot
Didn't know that last bit interesting(the rail bit that is :p)
elfin trout
semi modular is usually like 24pin and/or 8 pin eps12v is attached to the PSU, can't remove them
like this, but the rest can be removed
full modular is every cable can be removed
doesn't matter much for performance
just has to do with cables
sand atlas
Might be ok in theory, if it's a garbage model 3090 with a 320W power limit
vocal tree
can you not just power limit the gpu anyways
fierce pivot
Probably tripped every 10 minutes
sly oar
question - when it gives you the measurements for max CPU cooler height, that's from the top of the CPU to the case side right? Ex. 167mm on a case, with a fan measuring 160mm - will fit right?
vocal tree
yeah
just compare the specs
case>cooler
unless you have a ooooo special oem case from like Lenovo then you probably won't find that information :)
sly oar
yea, that's what I'm comparing, but not sure how it's measured - have a Noctua D15S (160mm) and looking at Cooler Master H500 case (167mm) - depending how it's measured (if it's standard) I'm not 100% it would fit ...
sand atlas
It'll fit, it's pretty standardized
sly oar
oh good
sand atlas
Even different motherboards have essentially the same socket height so little to no variance there
sly oar
yea, that's what I figured - but thought I'd ask before spending lol
specially considering the setup I'm investing in - really don't want to have to deal with returns and stuff lol
verbal oak
Lmao yeah right
you can run a 3080 with a decent 650w unit fine. assuming cpu isnt suwuper high end
fierce pivot
Can and should are completely different things my guy
elfin trout
Just get a G3 it won't trip anyways >:D
/s
verbal oak
Can and should are completely different things my guy
im not dumb bro...
supple orchid
i dont think that will work
a 650 plus brozne wqotn work
gold maybe
plat is good
blissful thistle
3090 has spikes up to 500w
Also he said in another comment his overall power usage never went over 533w lmao
Hes definitely taking out his behind
Idek how to check that but whatever
mild roost
you can run a 3080 with a decent 650w unit fine. assuming cpu isnt suwuper high ...
that's the best joke i've ever heard
you'd be lucky if it doesn't pop but trip
if it pops rip that 3080, rma won't work with your poor choice of psu
hollow gale
plat is good
the "bronze/gold/plat" have nothing to do with how good a PSU is.
supple orchid
ok
hollow gale
fading torrent
why do people buy cases anyway
my pc runs fine
i can always put a fan next ot it if i want
hollow gale
big brain solution
fierce pivot
a 650 plus brozne wqotn work
The 80+ rating has nothing to do with the quality of the power supply btw
fierce pivot
That's so extra just plonk it on the mobo box lol
verbal oak
that's the best joke i've ever heard
? take like a 10400 and 3080.
fierce pivot
? take like a 10400 and 3080.
3070 ti is the max I'd put on, you could probs squeeze a 3080 on a top tier 650w, but it would trip a good bit
mild roost
^
weary vine
nerds
verbal oak
just make sure it has like good transients and stuff, so that if it does spike you dont jave to worry much
verbal oak
because when the gpu spikes in power, it's up to a fast transient responce to well, respond
verbal oak
this is why people didnt recommend earlier focus gold units for ampere because the transients werent very good
verbal oak
i dont see how the word makes sense here
grammatically?
weary vine
transient means a momentary variation in current, voltage, or frequency
weary vine
grammatically?
no
the meaning
a good variation in current voltage or frequency?
wot
do you mean to say transistors?
i mean the transient is a spike
verbal oak
when people mention transients with power supplies, they mean transient response. unless they specifically mention another component
weary vine
just make sure it has like good transients and stuff, so that if it does spike y...
how does this make sense
I can assure you no one does that
verbal oak
ive seen a good few people do that
weary vine
who
verbal oak
idk like qubex and goboll and some others
weary vine
link?
verbal oak
uh, you want me to link a message they sent saying "transients?
i left a lot of tech servers but. i can try
weary vine
no the vid they explained it
because you arent doing a good job at all tbh
like I can see how it could be relevant
but not in the way you used it
verbal oak
heres what I'm saying. If the power supply has a very good transient response, even if it is 650w, it could in theory safely run a 3080. of course, other things matter, but regarding the spikes, transient response is important
weary vine
OCP limit important
transient not very important
technically tho ocp is a protection against a spike
hmmm
verbal oak
the transient response is supposed to make sure it doesnt trip OCP
lol
thats kind of a last resort
weary vine
but then again the way the psu is built dictates how much of a spike it can take
again link me the vid or article ur basing all this off of
verbal oak
well, when i talk about a high quality unit, the GPU oem comes to mind.
let me link a review or teo
verbal oak
its what the revo df, whisper m, agf, RMx (modified)
weary vine
its what the revo df, whisper m, agf, RMx (modified)
those are psus....
power supply units
weary vine
gpu is graphical processing units
verbal oak
gpu is graphical processing units
hey, i know they named it funny
weary vine
da hek
supple orchid
The 80+ rating has nothing to do with the quality of the power supply btw
i think it does
fierce pivot
well, when i talk about a high quality unit, the GPU oem comes to mind.
CWT is the OEM of the GPU yes but you worded that very confusingly
weary vine
the gigabyte P-GM is an 80+ gold tier unit @supple orchid
it is also quite literally a bomb
fierce pivot
i think it does
Only power efficiency, not quality
@weary vine they where talking about the CWT GPU , they just worded it not good as it sounds like a graphics card without cwt Infront
weary vine
Yeah I realised
but yeah the guy seems to throw a lotta terms around without fully knowing them tbh
verbal oak
but yeah the guy seems to throw a lotta terms around without fully knowing them ...
source
verbal oak
ive always assumed in the context of a power supply, transients referred to transient responses
just a way for me to type less
verbal oak
the entire convo we had
could you be more specific
verbal oak
ok so i mentioned the full name of the oem, and that got you confused
i mentioned transients, meaning transient response
thats ir
i apologize for not being clearer
weary vine
the whole transient thing felt like you were copying what you heard without understanding any of it tbh
verbal oak
how come
verbal oak
i agree
verbal oak
oh
eager hornet
How many gpus can i put in a desktop?
slate creek
Depends on the motherboard and size of the case
fierce pivot
How many gpus can i put in a desktop?
For gaming, more than one is useless for anything recent. Then like Alec said depends on size of board, case, how many slots the gpus take up
elfin trout
@weary vine for your own good, snippet from how Tom's hardware tests transient response
In the real world, a PSU is always working with loads that change, depending on whether the CPU or graphics cards are busy. So, a decent PSU review should contain some tests with dynamic or transient loads. We conduct a variety of transient tests:
While the PSU is working at a 20 percent load state, a transient load is applied to the PSU for 200ms (10A at +12V, 5A at 5V, 5A at 3.3V and 0.5 A at 5VSB).
While working at 50 percent load, the PSU is hit by the same transient load.
In the next tests we use again the same starting points, 20 and 50 percent load states, however we increase the load-changing repetition rate from 5 Hz (200ms) to 50 Hz (20ms) and 1 KHz (1ms) and we also apply higher loads at +12V (15A) and the 5V and 3.3V rails (6A). This way we push even harder the PSU.
In all tests, we measure the voltage drops that the sudden load change causes. The voltages should remain within the ATX specification's regulation limits. Finally, we should also note that the latest ATX spec requires a load-changing repetition state of 50 Hz to 10 KHz for transient response testing. The only reason that we decided to keep the "slow" 5 Hz tests is to retain compatibility with our database, however once we have enough data with the higher speed transient tests, we will most likely stop conducting the less stressful 5 Hz tests.We also conduct three transient tests where we measure the response of the PSU in its simpler turn-on phase. In the first test, we turn off the PSU, dial a full load at 5VSB, and then switch on the PSU. In the second test, while the PSU is in standby, we dial the maximum load that +12V can handle and start the PSU. In the last test, while the PSU is completely switched off (we cut off power or switch off the PSU's on/off switch), we dial the maximum load that +12V can handle, then switch on the PSU and restore power.
elfin trout
like if you hit the PSU with variable load you don't want the 12v rail to go to 14v or 10v yaknow
tacit wren
Listen to aegis
weary vine
like if you hit the PSU with variable load you don't want the 12v rail to go to ...
Yeah what you sent makes sense
what he said didnt really make a lotta sense
verbal oak
no care
sour dome
This is a good one https://www.amazon.com/APC-Battery-Protector-BackUPS-BX1500M/dp/B06VY6FXMM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?_encoding=UTF8&c
sour dome
We use it here at my company for our smaller offices, haven't had an issue
sour dome
Yes but only when the power's off and its on battery only or the battery is bad. Otherwise, just standard UPS sounds which are minimal
No but they're in a server room which equipment that are louder. What are you using it for? Your own PC?
It’s not that loud
minor portalBOT
Remyboi#2295 has been warned
long crown
aight lemme reword it mee6
sorry sir uwu
whats a good case thats easy enough to work in and not too big? I'm looking for something mid tower and has decent room for cable management
elfin trout
P500a
verbal oak
whats a good case thats easy enough to work in and not too big? I'm looking for ...
budget, country, and preferred aesthetics?
like do you want any colors or RGB
supple orchid
69v
hollow gale
whats a good case thats easy enough to work in and not too big? I'm looking for ...
Lancool ii mesh
4000d airflow
long crown
like do you want any colors or RGB
couldn't care less about rgb lol
fierce pivot
whats a good case thats easy enough to work in and not too big? I'm looking for ...
P400a/p500a, lancool mesh ii, lancool 205, corsair 4000d airflow
long crown
P400a/p500a, lancool mesh ii, lancool 205, corsair 4000d airflow
betttt thank you
fierce pivot
Np
fierce pivot
Which cases can I get for 40$?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mzQfrH/cougar-mx331-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-mx331-mesh i would get something like this
verbal oak
betttt thank you
this case has much better value
good cable management, good airflow, good build qualitu
hollow gale
except its not $40
verbal oak
P400a/p500a, lancool mesh ii, lancool 205, corsair 4000d airflow
i wouldnr recommend these (with the exception of the p400a)
weary vine
Missed that
weary vine
i wouldnr recommend these (with the exception of the p400a)
I would lol
weary vine
Oh compared to those the case you linked is sub par
verbal oak
only get then if they have speicifc features you need
verbal oak
Oh compared to those the case you linked is sub par
....
hollow gale
uh read who i replied to
my aplogies 🙂
verbal oak
np
verbal oak
Oh compared to those the case you linked is sub par
i'm sorry, but this case can do everything those cases can, at least what's relevent to the average pc user
it isnt ""garbo""
weary vine
it isnt ""garbo""
I said sub par
verbal oak
you edited it
weary vine
its not as good
weary vine
you edited it
before you started saying any of those things lol
weary vine
because it isnt modular?
no?
fierce pivot
i wouldnr recommend these (with the exception of the p400a)
Do explain why not?
verbal oak
Do explain why not?
only get then if they have speicifc features you need. otherwise, you can get a case with good airflow, cable management, I/O, and build quality for much cheaper.
verbal oak
airflow right out the box and fan mounts
this case also has airflow out of the box...
verbal oak
source?
weary vine
fan mounts
verbal oak
i mean look at it, it's all mesh except for the left and right side
weary vine
also it comes with 2 fans mounted
so thats extra money on fans
if you want the most out of the case
its not bad by any means, just not as good
hollow gale
I like the look of it. My only query is concerning the build quality.
weary vine
I like the look of it. My only query is concerning the build quality.
Its a solid case no doubt about it
just not great out of the box
verbal oak
its a high-airflow case. two fans is enough, its also not like spending two times as much justifies 2 more fans
weary vine
just not great out of the box
which is why I stopped recommending the 4000d airflow
hollow gale
its a high-airflow case. two fans is enough, its also not like spending two time...
RGB fans are expensive, ok?
hollow gale
tell me about it, but thatsnot the point 🙂
hollow gale
idk why people want rgb
because it gives me 4 extra frames
verbal oak
i mean i can get some arctic p12 argb's for less than 15 bucks, or, even better some gelid stellas for 7$
weary vine
he explains the flaws with the case at that time stamp
verbal oak
oh it has a timestamp
vocal tree
hopefully 😂
verbal oak
lemme get on my pc so i can
weary vine
"enough for the case to function but not really excel"
weary vine
"enough for the case to function but not really excel"
said about only 2 fans included
hollow gale
"enough for the case to function but not really excel"
mesh is too fine? isnt it?
vocal tree
added it to that lol
weary vine
"difficult to install fans of any size at the bottom"
hollow gale
"difficult to install fans of any size at the bottom"
oh right, cos its all riveted.
and you have to get your hand under the shroud, between the HDD cage and th front of the case to screw the bottom fan
weary vine
yeah
fierce pivot
only get then if they have speicifc features you need. otherwise, you can get a ...
1 testing on the case? It looks like it would be fine tho, 2 all are still good options, 3 fan options are fine but could be better
weary vine
1 testing on the case? It looks like it would be fine tho, 2 all are still good ...
testing
verbal oak
"enough for the case to function but not really excel"
like I said tho, if I wasn't already happy with those temps, I could just get another fan for 7 dollars
fierce pivot
which is why I stopped recommending the 4000d airflow
Same but some ppl just really like asthetic of, also price went up :(
fierce pivot
idk why people want rgb
Perty colour
weary vine
they are also a hassle
ur opinion
verbal oak
Same but some ppl just really like asthetic of, also price went up :(
it was a p good recommendation when it was sub 75$-ish dollars
weary vine
dont force it
weary vine
it was a p good recommendation when it was sub 75$-ish dollars
its worth 60$ tbh
fierce pivot
it was a p good recommendation when it was sub 75$-ish dollars
Yeah :/
weary vine
anything more and I cant really recommend it
fierce pivot
P400a king now
weary vine
p400a is amazing
verbal oak
ur opinion
I'm not trying to, but the point is it's an aesthetic desicion, so bringing the cost into play doesn't make sense
weary vine
Look the case you linked is good
just not great
it has some flaws that gamers nexus linked
verbal oak
it's great compared to the vast majority of cases kek
weary vine
its great for a sub 80$ case
but it doesnt stand a chance against the ones that pato linked
verbal oak
it's not as good as the p400a, but it gets the job done. which is all a case needs to do
verbal oak
but it doesnt stand a chance against the ones that pato linked
lol isn't the difference like 4 degrees c (stock) or something?
weary vine
it's not as good as the p400a, but it gets the job done. which is all a case nee...
why even use a case if you only wanted to get the job done
verbal oak
it's not being demolished
weary vine
leave it out in the open
verbal oak
leave it out in the open
but then you woulnd't get good airflow
weary vine
keep it flat on the mobo box
verbal oak
but then you woulnd't get good airflow
and it would look bad (imo)
weary vine
but then you woulnd't get good airflow
no obstruction tho
weary vine
and it would look bad (imo)
how does that matter? "but it gets the job done. which is all a case needs to do"
verbal oak
but very little air is being pulled
look, all I'm saying is the p400a doesn't "demolish" or "not stand a chance" against the nr600, you're kind of stretching the truth
weary vine
but very little air is being pulled
no obstructions to the cpu cooler tho
same cpu temp as open case
lol
which is exactly as good as the case you linked after you install and extra fan
verbal oak
no obstructions to the cpu cooler tho
but no fans to help proviide air towards the cooler
weary vine
but no fans to help proviide air towards the cooler
sir the cooler itself has a fan on it
verbal oak
you know what I'm saying
weary vine
and the temps you will get with no case at all are exactly as good as temps with an extra fan in the case you linked
gamers nexus showed that
verbal oak
weary vine
removing the side panel and putting it back on and adding a fan = exact same temp for that case
verbal oak
how
weary vine
source
no front panel same load temps as stock + 1 fan
no front panel = open to the elements which is as good as no case at all
so according to ur logic whats the point in buying a case
0$ spent = infinite price to perf
and here i drop it
one case is never a clear winner
all of em have their faults
verbal oak
ok, you were right about this
fierce pivot
it's not as good as the p400a, but it gets the job done. which is all a case nee...
A lot of people want more than just the job done, they want good quality, easy to build in, and looks good majority of the time
verbal oak
A lot of people want more than just the job done, they want good quality, easy t...
this had that. looks i cant comment on, but most are fine with how this one looks
fierce pivot
Also the rad mounting looks meh on it, only 240 and 360?
verbal oak
it had some minor issues, like minimal front IO and difficulty with installation of the bottom fan, nothing that makes a large difference
fierce pivot
280 would be nice, not necessary tho
verbal oak
Also the rad mounting looks meh on it, only 240 and 360?
at least it can do 360... however if i was getting a rad i would choose a higher end case anyway
fierce pivot
I mean if you can tho why not spend the extra 20$ on a case that will last you 10ish years
slate creek
Lancool II Mesh 
fierce pivot
bruh lancool ii mesh is overpriced af just get a p400a
Not really, it can 360 top mount cannt it?
slate creek
Nope only up to 280
verbal oak
Can’t beat the airflow tho
i bet it's less than 7 degrees c
verbal oak
Nope only up to 280
wait really? damn
fierce pivot
Nope only up to 280
Ahh then it is a bit overpriced ye
verbal oak
oh well in that case i would get a bigger case
slate creek
Considering it comes with 3 ARGB fans for $120 it ain’t a bad deal imo
fierce pivot
It's not horrible but p400a like 90$
slate creek
May just be me but I don’t like the screws holding the glass in, the hinges are overall a better design
fierce pivot
Fair enough
hollow gale
lancool also comes with the handy front mounting mechanism, the mesh basement that allows for fan mounts ON TOP of the basement (totallling 8 fan mounts), allows mounting vertical GPU that will not choke the GPU, is built like a tank, has exensive cable management, and can hold 3 HDDs and 6 SSDs
turbid perch
Guys can i use rtx 3060 ti with a psu 350 watt ?
blissful thistle
Guys can i use rtx 3060 ti with a psu 350 watt ?
I'd rather pour water in my pc running than use a 350w psu and a 3060 ti
turbid perch
I'd rather pour water in my pc running than use a 350w psu and a 3060 ti
Thank you
@blissful thistle btw you can do it
I trust you
You are strong enough to do this
long crown
Guys can i use rtx 3060 ti with a psu 350 watt ?
Yeah of course you can, you have to overclock the gpu when you do it though! 🙂
fierce pivot
verbal oak
stolen from aororawolf who stole from ralicx
balmy badge
one of y'all wouldnt happen to know if a BQ perif power cable is compatible with the GQ power supplies?
elfin trout
Mixed info, this might help, but I'm going to say no out of caution
https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=59698
elfin trout
rip
elfin trout
i yolo'ed and lost
anything go sparky?
elfin trout
ah
fleet moss
does anyone have the o11 dynamic xl?
sand atlas
Lots of people do, why do you ask?
round pike
shadow tangle
worth getting 750w over 650w?? as 3£ more or na
or whats better than this for same price on amazon.co.uk
650w or up i dont mind
as ill be having 10400f with a 3060/3060ti dont know yet
btw i really dont want to buy anything over 70£ so if u can look for something 70/under as dont havev alot of money
shadow tangle
ok
did a little searching found this on the b teir list on linus forums
anyone know if it has enough pcie pins for a 3060
i think u need 12 pins for it and im guessing id just plug in 2x6pins
nvm 3060 is 8 pin and if im not being dumb the seasonic core has an 8 pin
weary vine
i think u need 12 pins for it and im guessing id just plug in 2x6pins
thats.... not how it works... in fact its incorrect
shadow tangle
ye was dumb lol
stil am
but looking from linus forums and youtube its 8 pin
i think it was 3060ti or something thats 12 maybe
weary vine
can you tell me exactly what 3060 you have
weary vine
i think it was 3060ti or something thats 12 maybe
what
shadow tangle
can you tell me exactly what 3060 you have
dont have one yet but im planning to so thats why i need a better psu
weary vine
you realise the connector for a card isnt the same for all models of that card right?
shadow tangle
you realise the connector for a card isnt the same for all models of that card r...
yes
weary vine
then how does anything ur saying make sense
you an generalise based on one card
you have to state model
also get an msi a-gf or a revolution df
weary vine
well you never gave a budget 
shadow tangle
plus the seasonic core gm is still in b teir
weary vine
so
shadow tangle
btw i really dont want to buy anything over 70£ so if u can look for something 7...
@weary vine
weary vine
wdum so?? its still good enough for my 3060 and stuff?
The regular meaning of so is the one I mean
lemme look at psus in england tho
shadow tangle
The regular meaning of so is the one I mean
as its in b teir that should mean that it is good enough to run the 3060 with my 10400f and stuff
and my system only takes up like 350w
so 500 say so 650 should be fine
weary vine
and my system only takes up like 350w
Did you use a calculator
shadow tangle
Did you use a calculator
pc part pickeer
shadow tangle
what should i use to calculate it
shadow tangle
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-mod...
ill keep that saved ty if i get any more money but will the seasonic one be fine if i couldnt get that
weary vine
ill keep that saved ty if i get any more money but will the seasonic one be fine...
get this
750W and A tier
shadow tangle
k ill try get some money for it
weary vine
its 70£
shadow tangle
its fine i just want to know if the seasonic one i sent is good enough
weary vine
so ur budget is meaningless?
smh why bother giving a budget if you cant afford something that fits it
please dont give out meaningless numbers as ur budget next time. it wastes a lot of time
both urs and mine
north grail
cant find a job and parents dont have the most money
Depending what country your in its legal for you to work small hours each day at around 14-15
Depending where you ask
shadow tangle
Depending what country your in its legal for you to work small hours each day at...
yh just no-one where i live hire even if u volunteer so im gonna try finding stuff even if its an online survey which only works 1/10 times
north grail
Try small shops
More likely to let you in
Mcdonalds also may let you in
If you have one near you
shadow tangle
Try small shops
honestly i have but theres no places that do it even cash in hand so i could work longer hours
like ima have another look later again but just not to many shops that would even have vollunteers
fierce pivot
worth getting 750w over 650w?? as 3£ more or na
For 3£ yes definitely
outer folio
all atx psus have that
not all
outer folio
sort by cheapest on pcpp lol
something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WzfmP6/coolmax-power-supply-i500
fierce pivot
20.58 😋
verbal oak
steal
mild roost
steal the pc literally
verbal oak
illegal
coral thorn
yo i got a thermal take psu 650, i think thermaltake smart. I remember back then people telling me it was a horrible psu after i got it. Now im starting to notice inconsistency and bad fps compared to when i first built it, could this be the problem?
or do you guys think it's something else
vocal tree
I doubt that would be the cause but I guess it's possible
I would not be using a thermaltake smart unit tho
fierce pivot
yo i got a thermal take psu 650, i think thermaltake smart. I remember back then...
Unless it's dying and not delivering right amount of voltage or something i highly doubt it is causing it, more likely just background apps or something, or if your temps are bad and it's throttling
coral thorn
Yea I guess so
limpid whale
mild roost
poor gpu choked
sand atlas
That's why it has the glass on a hinge there in front of the GPU lol
mild roost
oh yeah
sand atlas
How about his one for that style?
hollow gale
How about his one for that style?
link? got a pilot friend who would dig that
sand atlas
It was a unique case to celebrate the launch of FS 2020
hollow gale
right. flip
mild roost
old mac pro
fading torrent
something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WzfmP6/coolmax-power-supply...
verbal oak
when the transaction is excellent
blissful thistle
Question
If I replaced my psu, would I have to completely redo my cable management?
Or since the cables plug into it could I just put the cables into the new psu
hollow gale
If I replaced my psu, would I have to completely redo my cable management?
depends if you buy a PSU from the same manufacturer and series as the one you surrently have and they are both modular
for example, I doubt you could reuse the same cabling if you sent from Corsair to TT for example, and you would have to redo your cable management
Furhermore even going from Corsair to Corsair, you would need to check cable compatibility
blissful thistle
for example, I doubt you could reuse the same cabling if you sent from Corsair t...
Currently have an evga bq 750w, gonna upgrade in prolly around 2-3years and might need a higher wattage psu depending on what I get
So I'd go evga but obviously a different series
hollow gale
you would need to check at the time, bud
blissful thistle
Idk which modular is and which non modular is
hollow gale
there is no guarantee either way
blissful thistle
Alright
If I have to redo cable management I'll just build a new pc, at that point I'd only be keeping the fans and case lmao
hollow gale
If I have to redo cable management I'll just build a new pc, at that point I'd o...
indeed. Althought you might want to change fans, dependant on how heavily they were used, their quality, and how frequently they were cleaned
blissful thistle
Yeah true
2 case fans and it'll be 3 p12 pwms today when my third gets here
Speaking of I should have 3 outtake 2 intake right?
hollow gale
ooof. not an easy question.
hollow gale
generally: if you have more intake, there is less dust, but if you have more exhaust you get better cooling I think
but dont quote me
hollow gale
https://www.scholarlygamers.com/tech-talks/2017/11/14/building-pc-positive-vs-negative-air-pressure/
hollow gale
I'll double check, ty for the help
pleasure
fierce pivot
If I replaced my psu, would I have to completely redo my cable management?
Some corsair cables from different psus but you're better off not to
Other brands aren't as good at cables working across models
tacit wren
Check the cablemods compatibility list. I recommend investing in a $15 psu tester as well.
You can still hurt your unit with one of those though - best to test with a multimeter.
swift badge
Been looking for a LIAN LI PC-A79B case and coming up with a whole lot of nothing. Does anyone have a lead on where I can find and purchase one of these? Does anyone have one they want to get rid of?
hollow gale
Been looking for a LIAN LI PC-A79B case and coming up with a whole lot of nothin...
very old model. do you need a lot of 3.5" drive space?
swift badge
Yeah I have 4x 3x5.25 to 5xhotswap bay
Building a server and have everything I need except for the case
hollow gale
you gonn have to scour second hand sites, I think
swift badge
Yeah I’ve been doing that for about a month lol
blissful thistle
Yeah I’ve been doing that for about a month lol
Check the coolermaster n400 out, I have it and it's been a minute since i checked inside of it but iirc it has hdd bays
Maybe with a little modding
swift badge
Check the coolermaster n400 out, I have it and it's been a minute since i checke...
I need more 5.25 bays trying to get a case with 20 hot swap bays. Thanks for the suggestion.
mystic bough
well, what about this
that looks so cool, sometimes I wish I did not go with an EATX mobo so I could use fun cases like this
unique pilot
I need more 5.25 bays trying to get a case with 20 hot swap bays. Thanks for the...
Get a nas
swift badge
Get a nas
Building a NAS is more enjoyable. Plus the 8 bay NAS I have is proving to not be enough
ornate kindle
guys whats a good case with good air flow
hollow gale
guys whats a good case with good air flow
size? price?
ornate kindle
size? price?
mid
ornate kindle
size? price?
under 120 dollars
hollow gale
Lian Li Lancool 215, Corsair 4000D Airflow, P400a
sand atlas
Meshify C also
ornate kindle
is the nzxt H510 good
sand atlas
No
vocal tree
lol
hollow gale
is the nzxt H510 good
NO!!!
ornate kindle
💀
sand atlas
hollow gale
literally the opposite of airflow
sand atlas
So bad we have an emote for it
verbal oak
well its kinda exagerrated
ornate kindle
i found an 1660 for 400 euros
verbal oak
but still bad
hollow gale
Theres a small tech youtuber who recently built in one. Next video, hes like: yeah gonna have to changethe case cos my rig is thermal throttling. BPS customs is the channel name
verbal oak
ornate kindle
i found a 1050 ti on newegg for 270 dollars
verbal oak
bad
verbal oak
what price should it be
lol like 100$
ornate kindle
lol like 100$
bro what
💀
dam
all is left i guess is to go for a 750 for like 70 dollars 😔
:/
mild roost
and an i5 10400f for 175 dollars
175 is like msrp for 10400f
dude's just on crack
oh wait the 1050ti
hmn for 270 that's not worth
fierce pivot
my budget is 700 dollars
Dollars or euro because you quoted the 1660 super price in euro, don't bother currency converting, different markets etc in different countries as well as the us not including taxes in the prices
ornate kindle
hmn for 270 that's not worth
idk where to find actuall.good deals
verbal oak
dude's just on crack
no i promise im clean
ornate kindle
Idk what to get dude
verbal oak
idk how you can do a gpu in a 700$ budget
ornate kindle
:/
fierce pivot
Idk what to get dude
Whats your budget and what country
ornate kindle
Whats your budget and what country
albania
ornate kindle
will a 750 work
sand atlas
The iGPU in the 5600g is almost as good as the 750 ti
ornate kindle
i found Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 for 90 dollars 💀
fierce pivot
And?
ornate kindle
these prices
ornate kindle
3600
fierce pivot
90$ is a lot for a 3200cl16 kit but a normal amount for 4000mhz cl18 lol
3600cl16 sounds right
ornate kindle
Hmm 5600g and a b550 board or like a 10400 and a user gtx 960 or something
id go for an intel cpu
the i3 10100f?
Refurbished: GIGABYTE B365M DS3H WiFi-Y1 (LGA1151/Intel/Micro ATX
for 50 dollars 💀
mild roost
10100f has no gpu
ornate kindle
ik
mild roost
ya would need a gpu
fierce pivot
You would need to buy a used one
mild roost
^
vocal tree
not a great price no
mild roost
that's
vocal tree
should be like 150 max I think
mild roost
even worse than the 1050ti you found
vocal tree
my 970 was 195, 210 after tax
blissful thistle
10100 would work if you want to make the build and then try to find a good deal on a gpu
vocal tree
during a bad time for gpu prices, but 970s were showing up cheaper than anything else
blissful thistle
So you could use the pc and wait for a dgpu
vocal tree
yeah don't get an f
blissful thistle
Also having the igpu helps for testing and such for if something breaks. It let's you either figure out if it's the gpu that broke or you can rule that out
ornate kindle
are there even good prebuilds
i can get for a decent price
HSCCGI GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x12 ATX Video Cards DVI/VGA/HDMI
$159.99
⁉️
ornate kindle
💀
ornate kindle
dam
vocal tree
that's a gts 450 or something
mild roost
ye
blissful thistle
i can get for a decent price
If you were in the US then yes
You could get a 1660 build for 750 usd
ornate kindle
saw it selling for 110 dollars
blissful thistle
Way too much
You'd barely be able to run bo4 with that at 40fps
Maybe 80 at most, and that's pushing it
blissful thistle
Way too much
Said this game bc I had a 1030 and played it, just the first thing that came to mind
ornate kindle
idk what to do
vocal tree
could play vanilla mc with a 1030
would do it perfectly
might even get some shaders in
vocal tree
any fps game p much
fierce pivot
720p is best for it tho
Can handle 1080p low fine just fine tbh
vocal tree
yea
blissful thistle
I did 1050p with my 1030
fierce pivot
should be like 150 max I think
Keep in mind they not in us just converting albania prices
vocal tree
oic
ornate kindle
HP Gaming Desktop Pavilion 690-0039 Intel Core i5 8th Gen 8400 (2.80 GHz) 12 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 256 GB PCIe SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-bit
blissful thistle
ornate kindle
560 dollars
blissful thistle
That's not the worst I've seen, assuming it's legit
ornate kindle
idk if it real or not
fierce pivot
If you did yourself you could probs do better tho
blissful thistle
1050 ti can run most games, might still struggle with cod but should run most games below warzone
ornate kindle
this laptop sits at 630
HP Pavilion 15.6" Full HD Gaming Notebook/Laptop PC, Intel Quad Core i5-9300H Processor, 8GB Ram Memory,256GB SSD Hard Drive, 3GB NVIDIA GTX1050, WiFi, Bluetooth, Backlit Keyboard, Windows 10
blissful thistle
1050ti is better than 1050
ornate kindle
1050ti is better than 1050
yea ik
blissful thistle
Gpu is more important than cpu for gaming
And laptops tend to overheat, have bad battery, and perform worse depending on what type of gpu it has
Also fake
1050 has 2gb not 3gb
Maybe they meant 1060 3gb
fierce pivot
HP Pavilion 15.6" Full HD Gaming Notebook/Laptop PC, Intel Quad Core i5-9300H Pr...
That's a laptop, laptop specs 1:1 with desktop always loose
blissful thistle
Can always upgrade it in the future. If you don't want to wait to find a good deal on a gpu that's probably your best bet
You don't need to "upgrade" the ssd, 256gb is fine for a boot drive
ornate kindle
i dont want to stick to the hhd for my games
blissful thistle
Anyways a 1tb ssd is like 100$ usd minimum
blissful thistle
i dont want to stick to the hhd for my games
It won't be as slow as having an hdd for your boot drive
I use an hdd for most of my games
And i don't notice any issues
blissful thistle
No, that's when you have one for a boot drive. And that depends on the hdd
I get over 20mb/s with my hdd
ornate kindle
im worried about the air flow
blissful thistle
Sometimes it's faster than my ssd
blissful thistle
Yeah those pre builts don't have the best cooling, but with a 1050 ti I doubt it'd be an issue
Thanks autocorrect
ornate kindle
blissful thistle
Yes
ornate kindle
can u throw an aio here?
blissful thistle
I know the cases
ornate kindle
does it fit
blissful thistle
Well first off idk if you can upgrade cpu in that build, pre built companies like to make parts specific to each build
Gpu definitely. And gpu I'd say would be the first thing
You'd be fine with up to like a 2070s with that cpu, tho it may get hot
fierce pivot
i dont want to stick to the hhd for my games
You won't notice it apart from loading times, on your budget as long as windows and some of the things you use most on SSD you're fine
ornate kindle
dam
blissful thistle
Alr I wasn't sure
fierce pivot
Only non proprietary is cpu ram and gpu
ornate kindle
oh so i can upgrade my cpu
fierce pivot
Why would you watercool an i5
Also this
ornate kindle
well im talkin in the future
^
ornate kindle
nah
fierce pivot
And you'd wanna change cases and motherboard for a cpu upgrade
hollow gale
do i gota change the mobo too
not gonne be able to change the motherboard in that case
fierce pivot
What's the specs?
ornate kindle
HP Gaming Desktop Pavilion 690-0039 Intel Core i5 8th Gen 8400 (2.80 GHz) 12 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 256 GB PCIe SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-bit
i have a laptop with an i5 3 gen M 6 gb ram and radeon graphics it is so slow tho
always lags and gets stuck
fierce pivot
Hmmm
fierce pivot
Not all radeon graphics are bad
ornate kindle
2013 🗿
its old
in my old old build i have an i5 2 gen and an nvidia quadro fx 580
and 4gb of ram
fierce pivot
@ornate kindle can you link some local pc retailers i can have a look for you if you want
fierce pivot
Can you link them?
Could only find grid computers but said it was offline for maintenance
ornate kindle
it has a facebook
page
but he posts photos with no specsa or prices
or my internet is bad
my internet is ass
can u check if he has anythin good
fierce pivot
I can't tell anything without prices or specs
minor portalBOT
z3#4564 has been warned
ornate kindle
I can't tell anything without prices or specs
computerpro_tirane
in insta
on
check it out
what about a good keyboard
and a mouse
elfin trout
@ornate kindle where are you
blissful thistle
Hes in Albania
ornate kindle
Amazon.de doesn't ship?
de?
delivery
?
how do u ppl even mine
can i do that with an nvidia quadro fx 580 💀
vocal tree
anything computer related with fx in the name is a funeral piece
ornate kindle
💀
vocal tree
exactly
fierce pivot
@ornate kindle this looks aight https://computerpro.al/product/gaming-pc-kolink-void-white-rgb/
ornate kindle
<@674536010687971329> this looks aight https://computerpro.al/product/gaming-pc-...
price?
elfin trout
<@674536010687971329> this looks aight https://computerpro.al/product/gaming-pc-...
Might be single stick and all
fierce pivot
Might be single stick and all
Most likely but just going off of what they gave, didn't think Amazon Germany did Albania
elfin trout
he says he makes 7 a day
Mining needs good GPU to be really profitable
vocal tree
that's a pretty case front panel
too bad it's a front panel
would be cool if it was the right side panel
ornate kindle
i love the case
elfin trout
Lol
blissful thistle
Yeah thats 825usd
Way overpriced for a 1650, even with the shortages
Pc with a 1650*
blissful thistle
Give us a bit to keep looking
You dont have to buy a 1650 frim them
You can get a 2 fan version or smthn that'll fit the case
It'll have better cooling than an oem card anyways
sand atlas
anything computer related with fx in the name is a funeral piece
FSR
FidelityFX Super Resolution
Prophetic statement?
vocal tree
ornate kindle
there are some stupid things
fierce pivot
Yeah thats 825usd
Dont bother converting currencies, Just different situations in different countries so best to quote in local currencies Also in the us they don't include tax in prices so remember that
vocal tree
I wish they included taks
ornate kindle
that say oh fortnite pc
Gaming Dell 3040 SFF Computer Core i5 6th, 8GB Ram, 500GB HDD, 256 GB NVMe SSD, AMD RX 550, Keyboard and Mouse, Wi-Fi, Win10 Home Desktop PC
480 dollars
fierce pivot
Maybe just stick to the 1 currency? Kinda gets confusing if you keep converting
But it's not very good
ornate kindle
nah ill get the other dell one
i personally like the case
hopecully prices doesnt change till november
is the glorious model o good
wireless or not?
wich is better
fierce pivot
Keyboard depends a lot on preference, what size? And then switches are fairly subjective