cases-psu-and-cooling

[fierce pivot]

Although you have a very nice case

[honest spindle]

Ok thanks folks!

[fierce pivot]

Np

[scenic lance]

Does the MSI mpg psu fit in the 4000D airflow

[elfin trout]

a-gf fits

[scenic lance]

Like this one?

[elfin trout]

it's just an atx psu for an atx case

[scenic lance]

Thanks

[frank trout]

3070 ti and 750w works, right? or should i get 850

[blissful thistle]

What cpu?

[frank trout]

5600x

[slate creek]

You’ll be fine I think

[frank trout]

alr

[odd rapids]

It’s fine, just be sure it’s a good PSU

[hollow gale]

Coolermaster NR200 can fit an ATX PSU if you 3d print a special bracket that they provide plans for

the NR200 is an itx case

[hollow gale]

am running a 3070 off a 650w PSU, no issues. if that helps

[fierce pivot]

I'm assuming that they have an atx board and that's the reason for asking lol

[hollow gale]

flip. youre right. I blame my ADD for not reading the full question. 😆

[fierce pivot]

Sure happens to the best of us

[primal beacon]

I have a thermaltake 700w in my pc and i have an hdd in a slot with a sata cable plugged in but theres no small sata cable to plug into the motherboard, what do i do

My motherboard is an asrock b450m pro4 and the sata port is smaller than all the sata plugs i have

[vocal tree]

You buy one

[primal beacon]

What?

?

[vocal tree]

The hard drive needs a power cable from the power supply in this case, and then a data cable to connect it to the motherboard

Do you not have SATA data cables?

[primal beacon]

My psu has sata cables

[hollow gale]

you are looking at the wrong port. all sata data ports are the same

[primal beacon]

But no smaller ones

[hollow gale]

no such thing

[primal beacon]

Where is the sata port on here then

[vocal tree]

Ok

So go buy some

[primal beacon]

Idk what that means

[vocal tree]

It's easy

Just go to Google dot com

[primal beacon]

Yeah i still dont know what im supposed to be buying

[vocal tree]

Search sata cable

[hollow gale]

those 4

[vocal tree]

Then click buy

[primal beacon]

Yeah those two black arched things are what im looking at, the ports on them arent big enough for my sata cables on my psu

[hollow gale]

OH NO!!!

[primal beacon]

?

[hollow gale]

you dont hook the PSU to the SATA port on the board!

[primal beacon]

Then what do i plug in

[hollow gale]

you run power from SATA to your drive, and a data cable from the motherboard to your drive

[primal beacon]

Yeah i dont think i have any cables left from my motherboard to plug in

[hollow gale]

if you bought it new, most motherbaords come with at least 2 cables

alternatively you can buy them anywhere

[primal beacon]

Yeah im not seeing it anywhere on here

I had an hd audio, usb cables and a bunch of small ones and then no other ones come from my case

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/barbeque-kingston-kingston-ssd-ssd-disk-gif-20905687

Should be included with the motherboard not the case

[hollow gale]

yeah, you can get them anywhere. so just to be clear, the SATA power from your PSU goes into one port on your drive, then a separate "small" SATA data cables goes from your motherboard to your drive. your drive has 2 ports, one for power, one for data

[primal beacon]

Never mind i found the cable

[vocal tree]

Otherwise just buy some

[hollow gale]

good man!

[primal beacon]

So im plugging this into my hdd and then the sata ports right?

[hollow gale]

correct!

[primal beacon]

Alright let me see if i can get this plugged in

[hollow gale]

do you have an M2 drive?

or just the SATA one?

[primal beacon]

Theres a port that reads “ultra m.2” on my mobo

[vocal tree]

Do you have any SSDs of any kind?

[primal beacon]

No just hdd

[hollow gale]

the reason I ask, is that most motherboards disable a SATA port or 2 if you plug in a M2 drive, or vice versa, so you have to check. but if you only have the SATA drive you can plug it in anywhere

[primal beacon]

I cant afford ssds

[vocal tree]

Gonna be slow

[primal beacon]

Its better than my pc before

[hollow gale]

when you can, your first upgrade should be a 256gb SATA ssd for a boot drive.

[primal beacon]

Ok so i plug this beside the psu cable plugged into my hdd and then plug the otherside into the black arch looking ports?

[primal beacon]

My hdd is 2 tb

[hollow gale]

CORRECT! Easy peasy bud

[primal beacon]

Ok thanks ill plug this in rq

After this i should just have cable management left and then hopefully i did everything right

[vocal tree]

You can get a 250GB 2.5" WD Blue 3D NAND SSD refurbished cheap

[hollow gale]

Excellent!

[vocal tree]

I bought 3 of them at 20 bucks each

[primal beacon]

Alright thanks for your help man

[hollow gale]

no worries. But keep the SSD in mind. you will be blown away how much perfromance you get by just putting your OS on an SSD

[primal beacon]

Yeah this is my first time building a pc and my budget wasnt very high although if this works, then even if my hdd is slower than an sdd ill still be happy because this pc is i think around 1,000% better in performance compared to my 10+ year old dell desktop i had before

[hollow gale]

no doubt!

[vocal tree]

Take your time

You can upgrade to an SSD at any point no rush

But it is the next step you should take

[frank trout]

h510 elite to burn my pc 👍

and my house

[blissful thistle]

Just get that one samaung phone

[frank trout]

lmao

[fierce pivot]

Why, the elite doesn't even make sense it's worse than regular h510 because fans can't suck air out of glass and the h510 kinda makes sense as a budget case

[weary vine]

Elite extortion and choking

[fierce pivot]

Sfw please rawr x)

[weary vine]

Choking of components airflow wise bruv. What did you think

extortion of dollar bills from the wallet

[fierce pivot]

Yes don't murder the poor contents what did you think i meant 👀

[weary vine]

What do you think I think you meant

[hollow gale]

now shipped free wih every h510. DIY airflow kit

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-clancy-texas-chainsaw-massacre-chainsaw-horror-gif-16132522

[fierce pivot]

Too time consuming. Chainsaw tho

[brazen kindle]

Is plugging in two of these okay, or do I need to do the third (the two I plugged in were connected)

[fierce pivot]

3rd 4 pin cpu doesn't need to be plugged in unless doing extreme overclocking

[brazen kindle]

Cool, what about moderate over licking

Clocking

[fierce pivot]

Fine without

[brazen kindle]

Cool thx

[fierce pivot]

Only for like ln2 overclocking

[brazen kindle]

Also is the circle or the l on or off on cpu

I’m really nervous

[fierce pivot]

Wdym?

[brazen kindle]

The switch on psu

Line or circle on or off

[fierce pivot]

Ehh can't remember, try one if it doesn't boot its the other one lol

[brazen kindle]

One more thing

[fierce pivot]

Yep?

[brazen kindle]

What key launches bios after post

[fierce pivot]

Depends on the motherboard

Usually del or f2 or f10

[brazen kindle]

Manual says (delete) but seems a weird key

[fierce pivot]

Nope delete is common

[brazen kindle]

It did mention f2 so I’ll try that

[fierce pivot]

Just use delete imo it's nicer placement on keyboard to spam anyway

[brazen kindle]

Do I have to have to install windows on a usb stick, or is it preinstalled?

The free version

[fierce pivot]

Usb

Go to a pc download windows media creation tool

Run it on the pc

Installs it to usb stick

[brazen kindle]

Ok It will be a min till I power on

[fierce pivot]

Stick usb in your pc and set the usb as top boot priority

I would go make the windows media install now

It takes 30ish mins to install to the usb

[brazen kindle]

Oh ok

Does it have to be a fresh stick?

[elfin trout]

Formatted to fat32

[brazen kindle]

New stick?

[fierce pivot]

Nope but if there's anything on there it will delete it

[brazen kindle]

Ok good

[elfin trout]

If you have an old stick, make sure it's formatted to fat32

[brazen kindle]

How does one check

[fierce pivot]

Windows explorer, my pc, right click usb drive, properties

[brazen kindle]

It’s in fat32

So where do I go to install windows to the usb stick

?

[elfin trout]

From Microsoft

Media creation tool

[fierce pivot]

Google windows media creation tool

[brazen kindle]

Oh that’s what you meant

I read it wrong sorry

Thank you, I’ll start the download and maybe talk again when I turn it on

[fierce pivot]

Good luck

[zenith basalt]

do yall know any good 1200w sfx psu’s???😅

[elfin trout]

uhm, what's the use-case?

[zenith basalt]

o11 mini

kingpin 3090

gonna do some heavy overclocking

yknow what nvm

imma get the 5000d

[elfin trout]

yes

p500a another option

[zenith basalt]

does it have side fans?

[elfin trout]

nah

[zenith basalt]

dang

[broken osprey]

I have unique case

I don't think i have paste permissions priviledge i'm not high enough discord level hmm?

[fierce pivot]

Highest watt sfx psu ik of is the cooler master v2 850w sfx

[outer folio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/olpfqa/new_cooler_master_sfx_psus_1100w_and_1300w/

[fierce pivot]

Ohh nice

[uneven carbon]

Can u dm it to me? You have sparked my curiosity.

[scenic lance]

Quick gamers

I need pics of Micro ATX Stat

[chrome iris]

What

[mild roost]

You could google?

[fierce pivot]

A micro atx case? Versa h18

[scenic lance]

Gratz

Ie

[chrome iris]

What is this guy even saying

[civic hemlock]

hi this is gigabyte. pls buy our new bomb called "P-GM"

[surreal magnet]

lol

[hoary epoch]

Hmm just might

[zenith basalt]

does anyone know any good regular sized 1200w power supplies?

i cant seem to find any on Newegg

[fierce pivot]

Why do you need 1200w?

But i mean https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ctnypg/super-flower-leadex-platinum-se-1200-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1200f14mp-v2

[zenith basalt]

kingpin 3090

i heard the regular 3090 had insane power spikes

i wanted to be safe since i had the kingpin one

[fierce pivot]

I suppose just remember you'll be stuck to like 525w ish because of pcie power rating

Fair

[zenith basalt]

a friend of mine had burnt out his 850 platinum with a ftw3

[fierce pivot]

Well yeah

3090s really require a 1000w

[elfin trout]

3090 will usually do fine off a 850w

[fierce pivot]

Probs but better safe than sorry imo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic hemlock]

Well if you want a good cheap 1000w unit, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yTMwrH/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-1000w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-1000fx This is a good option

[fervent elk]

What’s a psu you could recommend? I have a rtx 3060,ryzen 7 3700x and a b550 mobo

[elfin trout]

leadex iii gold 650w atm has a good price

[mild roost]

^

nice psu too

[odd rapids]

The v3 model would be better for a 3090

That’s the v2 model. Has issues with transient response and ripple with these high transient cards, like the 3090

Seasonic Focus: Old (V1/V2/Plus) vs New (V3)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769034089557655553/802264731435532288/unknown.png from Qubex

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDqBD3/seasonic-focus-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-1000 you'd want this one or corsair rmx

[grave estuary]

i completely forgot to ground my psu before i started building and when i finished nothing happened, did i wreck my whole setup?

[elfin trout]

no

[mild roost]

must be something incorrectly connected somewhere

[rich briar]

There was a fire in the APO last night, the power ended up shorting out. When it sort of came back on, the printer turned on, but the computer on the same outlet wouldn't turn out. What are the odds that it's dead?

[minor portal]

TopPercent#8947 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rich briar]

The one time autocorrect gets me 😬

It's a Dell optiplex from around a decade ago

[hollow gale]

I mean, if you've tried another outlet, another cable, and its still not working, there is a good chance your PC is borked

[rich briar]

Another outlet on the same strip.

Here in Iraq we have to use adapters cause it's american plug vs whatever plug is over here

The printer was on and working, but the PC didn't work with any of the outlets on the power strip

[teal creek]

What’s a good atx case y’all would recommend with good airflow

[fierce pivot]

Phanteks p360a, p400a, p500a, corsair 4000d/5000d airflow, td500 mesh

[odd rapids]

Just thought I’d post it here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PZR9JLT/ 850w GF1 PE for $110

[fierce pivot]

Decent ye

Ehh yeah but idk where lol it's on the ltt list tho lol

It's gold b tier anyway so it's a top tier b tier

Supernova g3 is an a tier soo but Early EVGA G3 revisions had issues with out-of-spec performance under overload.

[odd rapids]

Still wouldn’t buy a G3 now tbh

Better options exist, EVGA seems to continue to change things under the radar

[fierce pivot]

Gp is a 50$ psu

G3 is a big price diff too

[odd rapids]

That too

G3 is A tier?

[fierce pivot]

Ye

[odd rapids]

Ahh low priority

So the early model had the issue with OTP and OPP being set too high?

Thought that was still an ongoing issue

[fierce pivot]

Idk just says the old models tho

[odd rapids]

I’ve stopped using the tier list for a while now, I prefer the cultist spreadsheet

[fierce pivot]

Well actually the 550w g3 is okay price 60$ but the 650w is 89$ which you can get an msi mpg agf

[odd rapids]

Yeah

I’m gonna ask around cause now I’m curious

Cause afaik, the G3 still has OTP and Opp set too high with UVP being set too low

I never heard anything otherwise so idk. Maybe Qubex has some info

[scenic lance]

is this picture upside down?

[surreal magnet]

looks to me like just an inverted case layout

also

this mf case fan is sucking air into the case

while

this cooler is clearly oriented to be exhausting it

@spare magnet

might wanna flip that fan around

[spare magnet]

im steady 40C with all the fans blowing inside the pc

plenty of ventilation

[spare magnet]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00H2-00031?Item=9SIASKACN83409 worth it?

[rich briar]

Looks like the PC did end up dying cause of the short/fire/power outage 😬 still won't turn back on. The S6 is coming over to look at it.

[fierce pivot]

It's contradicting airflow lol

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/please-no-michael-scott-the-office-no-god-please-no-steve-carell-gif-3532257

Solid front panel

[hollow gale]

love the fact that they advertise that the case can take a 240mm rad in the front

[fierce pivot]

I'd say the h510 elite does to lol

[hollow gale]

The NZXT at least pretends by putting those little vents around the edges. The one above has NOTHING! Someone needs to send one to Steve from GN, ust to see his reaction

[fierce pivot]

Not the elite lol just pure glass :)

[hollow gale]

OMG!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

wow. Just...am honestly just flabbergasted.

and I see you can also mount a GPU right up against the glass. perfect

[fierce pivot]

Ofc

Ultimate oven

[limpid knoll]

has someone with the cooler master td500 been able to use the hdd/ssd cages?

I have a fully modular psu but I simply dont have enough space no matter how much I cramp the cables to fit the cage

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005?Item=9SIAMNPAY43503

[limpid knoll]

my psu

[fierce pivot]

I don't have one but i have heard it is a tight fit yeah

[limpid knoll]

I was trying to buy a hdd for storage but I may just have to buy another 1tb nvme since, the price diff between decent ssd and cheap nvme ssd isnt more than 20-30 bucks

[fervent elk]

What’s a good psu for a rtx 3060 and a ryzen 7 3700x

[fierce pivot]

Unless you already have the 3700x i wouldn't buy it in 2021, but a msi mpg 650w should do nicely

[chrome iris]

Yeah? I have a hard drive in there rn

[limpid knoll]

shii I'll try to gt the hdd cage then

[sudden knot]

I plugged in my case USB 3.0 to my motherboard and it's a little lose what do I do can I just leave it

I already put too much pressure on the motherboard it looks like it's in but easily can come out any tips

[elfin trout]

You can leave it if it works

[fierce pivot]

You can always tape it in if it stops working

[livid orchid]

hello

[slate creek]

Make sure you’re putting it in the right way

[lucid owl]

recommended upgrade from a 680x?

[elfin trout]

depends on what you want from a case

[craggy pagoda]

Does anyone have any case recommendations cause I’m looking at the lain li but jus don’t know how to build in it

[elfin trout]

which one?

[craggy pagoda]

Lian li o 11 dynamic

[elfin trout]

eh

lancool 215 or lancool ii mesh could be fun if you want lian li still

p500a for fairly big case still

td500 mesh for another style

[hollow gale]

what components? are you gonna use a custom loop?

[craggy pagoda]

I’m having a ryzen 7, gtx 1660,32gb of ram and asus rog strix, nzxt cooler

And 4tb hdd

[hollow gale]

ok, so you dont need a huge case

as mentioned, Lian Li lancool 215, Lancool ii mesh, Phanteks P400a, Coolermaster TD500 mesh

Corsair 4000d Airflow

Fractal Design Meshify C

[craggy pagoda]

Would a nzxt case work?

Also what power supply would I need?

[hollow gale]

NO!!! Steer clear of NZXT

[hollow gale]

650W / 750W PSU is what you need

[craggy pagoda]

Why? I’m jus curious sorry

[hollow gale]

Very bad cooling.

[craggy pagoda]

Ok thanks

[hollow gale]

what ryzen 7 btw?

[craggy pagoda]

The ryzen 7 3800x I believe

[hollow gale]

have you already bought it?

[craggy pagoda]

Nope

Waiting for prices to go down

[hollow gale]

cool

[elfin trout]

don't do 3800x if you haven't bought it yet

[blissful thistle]

I sometimes think about it just bc I see them going for 200-220

Only reason I most likely won't is I dont do much multi core usage

And single core isn't that different between it and 3600

[fierce pivot]

Not worth it for 2 extra cores, either go for the 3900x or the 5900x if you need more cores

[weary vine]

or the 10700k

10700 best

[fierce pivot]

Indood but they have a r5 3600

Mobo swap makes it not worth lol

[weary vine]

fair

5800x then

[fierce pivot]

Go all or go home 2 extra cores vs 2x cores

[weary vine]

eh

not necessarily

btw how did the windows install go?

[fierce pivot]

Finally got to work but was still a pita

One of the updates was like no i don't wanna install

And had to ddu to install nvidia drivers on a fresh install ;-;

[weary vine]

and u still on win 10 home or what u usin now?

[fierce pivot]

My pro key - put it in during install and worked ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weary vine]

Nice

[fierce pivot]

Then as soon as i got my documents from sata drive i formatted the hell out of it lol

[weary vine]

nice

Put it in a hole and nuke it lol

[fierce pivot]

Ohh yeah the windows update was on the configuring windows for update don't turn off pc screen for the pesky update for 20 mins had to turn off and on again and it actually worked ;-;

[weary vine]

lmaooo

windows wierd

[fierce pivot]

Yuh

[elfin trout]

It's surprisingly bad silicon, I'd either go 10700, 11400/11500, or 5600x or 5800x

Hell, good deal on a 3700x works

[zenith basalt]

should i trust these cheap-ish power supplies advertised for mining on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WRQDTBX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_720VVF4VKWGV7BQ1HRPX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[fierce pivot]

Looks sus, why would you even want a 2000w psu anyway

[zenith basalt]

mining

[fierce pivot]

I mean the sticker says output of 1500w only

Soo idk

Picture could immaculate tho

[odd rapids]

Better off buying two 1000w RMx 2021’s

Or Focus plus gold V3

[elfin trout]

nah man this 5000w psu I found off ebay must be better

[chrome iris]

That is the most sus thing I’ve ever seen in my life

[mild roost]

mining psu

[fervent elk]

Msi psu good right?

[fierce pivot]

Msi mpg is a very nice psu yes

[fervent elk]

Nzxt cases aren’t that bad if you have an aio

[elfin trout]

aios don't magically delete heat

heat still needs to get out of the case

[fervent elk]

Bruh

[fierce pivot]

No they definitely are just as bad

Especially the h510 elite

[fervent elk]

Not for most ppl pc lol

[fierce pivot]

Just suck air out of the glass

[fervent elk]

You just gotta setup ur pc right

[fierce pivot]

Yes h510 is okay at best, fine for budget but better options, h510 elite is stupid price as is worse than the non elite in thermals its an oven

[fervent elk]

I have the h510

[odd rapids]

Doesn’t mean they “aren’t that bad” haha

[vocal tree]

for budget you should just get a matx case imo

matx board and case

cheaper boards, cheaper cases

[fierce pivot]

I'd much rather a mx330 air and save 20$ or so

[mild roost]

^

H510 just chokes everything from air

There's no excuses for it unless you're really wanting to ignore performance just for looks

Which other cases can look good with airflow

[sour dome]

Agreed. Function over form

[devout jackal]

Best 650w psu for around 60-70 euro?

[fierce pivot]

What country?

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na something like this

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a650gf

I would spend the extra 8€ for an msi mpg tho

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/y4TPxr/be-quiet-pure-power-11-700-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bn295 if you want on the lower side would be decent as well

[odd rapids]

The formula gold would be a better option

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/B8RFf7/bitfenix-formula-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm650ulag-7r

Or TXM over the RM if the 650w is in stock at a local retailer

[fierce pivot]

Ohh yeah i missed that

[real galleon]

is this a decent case (airflow and room to build a budget pc for now and to grow later), i like the look of it. i know im going with an atx mb, so i will fit, but mainly wanna make sure

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353211?Item=N82E16811353211

[sand atlas]

Looks extremely basic so it might be hard to build in but should be good enough for a budget build

[real galleon]

thanks it not fancy, but it seems like it be modable (and not really worry about cutting into it when needed haha)

[minor portal]

freaking tf out#6540 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

freaking tf out#6540 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[elfin trout]

Welp, we got the update to p-gm
https://youtu.be/aACtT_rzToI

[dawn matrix]

yes

finally

i'm halway through already

[elfin trout]

TLDR: Don't buy then at all, although they have multiple varients of the same model under the same name, some are okay, some fail under 60% load

[dawn matrix]

been waiting on this forever to decide what to do with mine

[sand atlas]

Good thing I'm only using the one they sent me for an old iGPU computer with a 65W processor

[dawn matrix]

my 850's been working fine with a 1060 6gb and a 3600

not sure if that means its one of the "good units"

im also still not done the video

so

[sand atlas]

Both of those are pretty low power tbh

I doubt it hits 50% load

[dawn matrix]

yea

that what i figured which is why i risked using it

but im planning on getting a3070 at some point

and im not sure whether i use it for that

[sand atlas]

I wouldn't risk it with that expensive GPU

It killed a 3080

[dawn matrix]

but so far, it sounds like they only had issues with the power supply after they triggered OPP

[sand atlas]

I love that their promo code for the store on this video is "SENDHELP"

Honestly they just need to recall these things

Incoming petition I'm sure

[dawn matrix]

thats kinda what i've been waiting and hoping for

yea

[sand atlas]

I ended up killing 3 of those P850GM on my personal load tester and returned all 3

Not one of them actually hit 80% load before POP

[dawn matrix]

yike

ok

[sand atlas]

That's what they get for force-bundling them. I'm going to make sure they get a loss from shipping alone.

[odd rapids]

What do you use for your personal tester?

I’m assuming it’s expensive? Haha

[sand atlas]

https://www.passmark.com/products/inline-psu-tester/index.php

Like $400

[odd rapids]

Ohh gotcha

[sand atlas]

But I was building tons of PCs so worth it

[odd rapids]

Yeah, good investment

And all three of your PGM’s died too? Jeez

[sand atlas]

Yup, they couldn't handle the awesome might of the 3090 + 5800X, total power draw on OC is around 600W just for those 2 parts alone

Not including transient load from the 3090 which spikes it 100W+

[odd rapids]

Damn

Currently tryna tell someone in another server to get rid of theirs hehe

[mild roost]

shows how good gigabyte is at making bombs

[fierce pivot]

Probs highered the guy in charge of the note 7 x)

[mild roost]

perhaps

[scenic lance]

Hey guys I need a case below a $100 aud

• Mobo is microatx
• Has PSU shroud
• Tempered glass side panel
• Good airflow

Can you recommend some good ones?

[fierce pivot]

Deepcool MATREXX 40/50 or cougar MX330-G Air imo

[scenic lance]

thanks ill check them out

[vocal tree]

Thermaltake Versa H18 TG

[mild flower]

And newegg is dumping them on the shuffle, to unaware masses of people.

[mild roost]

yeah

it sucks

they think "oh psu? nice i wont have to buy a psu now"

then pop

[fierce pivot]

Probs gigas retailer pushing them on wegg tbh but yeah sad

[weary vine]

SCAM LINK

@sharp fox

need help

Thanks

[sharp fox]

How did only one manage to gi through

[weary vine]

I dunno

[worn atlas]

all the product bundles with GPU's have been inventory they want to get rid of, hardly ever did they bundle GPU's with actually desirable components

[fierce pivot]

Ehh tbf there have been some decent motherboards and evga psus

[mild roost]

but sometimes they snuck gigabyte

[elfin trout]

There's been some nice monitors that I saw

But yea sadly quite a bit of undesirable things

[mild roost]

just resell the unwanted part

[minor portal]

otaku#6601 has been warned

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otaku#6601 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[fierce pivot]

They being put into here before ban now

[vocal tree]

It has a rejoin function now it seems

Might become a problem

[scenic lance]

guys I picked this case Thermaltake S100 Snow Edition MicroATX Mini Tower Case.
I'm thinking of getting 2 of Deepcool RF 64.13 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack. Put them at the top and the front. Do you guys think it'll be way too load/overkill?

[vocal tree]

I just have 2x140 in front and 1x120 in back on my case

Put as many as you want tbh

As long as it produces good positive pressure airflow or something

[scenic lance]

do you have any at the top

?

[vocal tree]

Nope

[scenic lance]

because from what i've read/seen you need more airlfow is front is closed

[vocal tree]

I have a spot for one 140 on mine

[scenic lance]

is it the same case

[vocal tree]

No

Lol

TT Versa H18 TG

But airflow cases are airflow cases

Front to back is good enough

Anything more is bonus

[scenic lance]

yup

thanks adude

[pliant fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-um-staring-glancing-looks-gif-22615274

[vocal tree]

👍

https://tenor.com/view/hog-dog-hogar-hogey-doguar-gif-18480043

[scenic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-doin-gif-22165533

[scenic lance]

guys when I buy pc case fans do I need anything other than the fans themselves

like wires or connectors

or like certain things on the motherboard

[vocal tree]

depending on your motherboard, you might need splitter cables

fans themselves come with mounting screws in the box when new, and you will have to pilot the holes

I got a pack of splitters because my board has 3 total headers, and I need to power 4 fans

[scenic lance]

Yup

I got this https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B550M-PLUS-WI-FI/ mobo

And my pc case has 1 fan, and I'm buying 4 would I need splitter cables?

Also pc part picker estimates 354 wattage, is a 600 psu good enough or should i get 650/700

[vocal tree]

looks like you'll need at least one splitter

if you have 5 fans total

if that doesn't include the cpu fan or fans, then 6+

4 ports available in all

[vocal tree]

I would suggest splitting 3 ways max

I bought 2 way splitters

extra safe

[scenic lance]

thanks

[vocal tree]

yw

[fierce pivot]

Wattage calcs are never accurate but yeah, 600w should be fine , it's better to tell by what graphics card you're getting tho btw

[vocal tree]

cpu too

well everything but primarily gpu

[scenic lance]

3060 and 5 5600 x

[fierce pivot]

600w is fine, just as long as it's a decent one, psus are kinda complicated, i can recommend a few if needed depending on region

[fierce pivot]

Yes but asking bout wattage is gonna run a 300w 10900k and 3080 or 3090 at full load xD

[scenic lance]

EVGA GD (2019) 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

I'll shove the extra wires below in the shroud, what do you think?

[fierce pivot]

That'll do but unless you got it for a nice price i wouldn't recommend buying it

Yeah tis what the shroud is for

[scenic lance]

yeah 69 aud

pretty cheap

Compared to the other ones i saw

[fierce pivot]

It will do but it's cheaper for a reason, not as good as the others https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a650gf i would recommend this if it fits in the budget

[scenic lance]

Modularity and an extra 50+ watts

does the extra 50 watts really help?

[fierce pivot]

It's the quality of the power supply not the modularity and extra 50 watts thats why it's more expensive

Power supplies aren't made equal

For example if you check pins in this channel there's a psu tier list, the gd is c tier

The msi mpg is a tier

And multi rail iirc which means it spreads the load

[scenic lance]

ohh

thanks man

[fierce pivot]

Np

[scenic lance]

can you recommend a cheaper a tier that is at least 600 watts, can be semi or none modular. But still a tier?

with the multi iirc thingo

[vocal tree]

B tier is nice too

but the only good budget one I think is Corsair CX

[scenic lance]

hmmm I'll do some more research thanks @vocal tree

[vocal tree]

I'm using a C tier unit lol

[scenic lance]

What gpu/cpu do you have

[vocal tree]

not that high power draw, an i5-4460 and a GTX 970

84w and 145w respectively

[scenic lance]

Yup, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[fierce pivot]

Not really, cheapest b tier was 550w but like 10$ less, iirc

Like the gd will do but if you can spend the extra

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GwkWGX/asus-tuf-gaming-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-750b

Maybe that

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[scenic lance]

aight ill get the a tier one. Thanks for the advice Pato.

[fierce pivot]

Np

[compact fern]

Guys is a rm1000x good?

[fierce pivot]

Yup

[gaunt cradle]

Can someone enlighten me as to what this cord is?

My case didn’t come with a manual

[fierce pivot]

That's molex

[sand atlas]

Is that on a fan?

If that's on a fan you either plug that into the power supply or use the 3/4 pin connector to plug into the motherboard, one or the other

[gaunt cradle]

I think it’s for the front led lights

[sand atlas]

If it just runs to the front panel and not a fan or anything, it probably has a LED strip on the front

[gaunt cradle]

However the sata that came with my psu doesn’t have a connector

The one that came with my motherboard does however it doesn’t fit the psu

[sand atlas]

Does that cable look like this?

Because if so that's meant to convert molex to GPU power, not the other way around

If your power supply really doesn't have any molex connections (which would be unusual) you'd want this to convert from sata to molex. https://www.amazon.com/12in-Molex-Power-Cable-Adapter/dp/B00GK8SYCW

Or, if it really is just a LED strip, there's always the option of not connecting it lol

[gaunt cradle]

The one that has 4 pins is the one with the connector

The one with 5 fits with the PSU

But doesn’t have one

[sand atlas]

As a rule, don't plug anything into the power supply that didn't come with the power supply. (Custom cables are a thing but they need to be carefully designed)

That does appear to be a converter cable like I mentioned above

[gaunt cradle]

So I can’t do anything with the molex at this time?

[sand atlas]

Probably not unless your PSU came with a molex cable. Which PSU was it?

[gaunt cradle]

Gamemax

The RGB 850

[sand atlas]

That's a low C tier, hope you're not doing more than a 3060 on that

[gaunt cradle]

I don’t have a 3080 yet so I’m using an older spare

[sand atlas]

A 3080 will blow that up

Best case scenario it just shuts off a lot when you're gaming

[gaunt cradle]

Wow really it said it was 850 watts

I thought that would be plenty

[sand atlas]

Sure, 850W sustained load

The 3080 likes to spike the loads about 100W, so it could be drawing 300W one second and suddenly 400W and the PSU can't keep up, so it triggers protections and shuts off.

Or, if it's a cheaper unit that doesn't have protections (or has weak ones) it just blows up

That's why we always recommend A tier units for those powerful GPUs, they have high quality capacitors that can handle those transient loads

[gaunt cradle]

When I was doing research most places said 750-850 watts would be good for one.

[sand atlas]

Wattage and 80+ rating aren't the full story. See Gamer's Nexus and their new video about the Gigabyte PSUs that are literally exploding.

[gaunt cradle]

I guess I didn’t look hard enough

[sand atlas]

Here's the tier list we often reference https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list/

[odd rapids]

I would cross-reference with this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/edit#gid=1719706335

I wouldn’t let that LTT tier list be the be-all and end-all

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[weary vine]

This list is just not good

the one on LTT is much better

[outer folio]

wat

[elfin trout]

wat

[elfin trout]

That's literally for the LTT list

That's where they list their sources

And specifics

[wanton briar]

This is the LTT list lmao

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[weary vine]

yeh but the one on ltt is easier to read

the other one is all over the place

that was my point

[elfin trout]

...

[elfin trout]

This one is much better for details

How are you going to tell why a unit is in low priority on the LTT list?

:p

[weary vine]

Eh the one on ltt is easier to understand and you generally dont need to know why a psu is rated ar a specific tier

just that its in that tier

[elfin trout]

And again, they said "I would cross-reference with this"

Cross referencing for details

[weary vine]

unecessary when ur choosing a psu

tbh

I can see how it can be useful

but it just isnt for most people

the ltt list is far easier to understand

You see what im saying?

[elfin trout]

They didn't say that the sources sheet should replace the tier list

They're saying the sources list complement the tier list, which it does.

[weary vine]

My point is for everyone except a very few number of people, cross referencing is unecessary

same info on both

the other just goes more in depth

[elfin trout]

No, much more details on why some PSUs are in low priority

And for example, the note for the G3 just says
"Early EVGA G3 revisions had issues with out-of-spec performance under overload."

When the ocp was set way too high

[weary vine]

Hmm I see your point

my bad

I can see how its very useful for some psus

[elfin trout]

Like probably a third of all the PSUs are in low priority, so, yaknow, pretty useful for a good chunk of the PSUs

[odd rapids]

It’s not

Ohhh, I see what you mean

I kinda meant the other links

[wanton briar]

It's for the LTT list

[odd rapids]

Yeah yeah, gotcha

I interpreted that wrong, my fault

[odd rapids]

I just like to use that one as a cross-referencing point. I usually suggest others do so as well so they know about the PSU they’re buying. And this also isn’t true, the one I linked provides much more in-depth detail that the LTT one doesn’t.

And it’s useful for most of the PSU’s, not just some. It just helps the buyer instead of buying one simply because it’s “B tier so therefore it’s good”

[minor portal]

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[odd rapids]

RM850x for $115 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079H5WNXN/

Pretty sweet deal

[alpine flint]

anybody know what you would use to clean the glass panel on the side of your case

Is windex fine

bunch of smudges on it

[mild roost]

windex is fine, it's just glass

the problem could be your cloth

[alpine flint]

Been using paper towels actually lol

[mild roost]

sounds unoptimal

[fierce pivot]

Try a windex wipe mb

[mild roost]

^

[wanton briar]

Microfiber cloths work great

[flint mica]

Does anyone know a nice Micro-ATX case below 50$?

[fierce pivot]

Deepcool MATREXX 40

Thermaltake Versa H15/H18 as well

[real galleon]

i know this would be pushing my budget another 30 bucks.... which im over already buttt i kinda am digging this case and found out i can use my rewards from my cc on amazon hahah. which would you pick?
https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00EH-00020

original:
https://www.newegg.com/black-white-metallic-gear-neo-air-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854093?Item=N82E16811854093&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-UZ1dI6m0y2_scOa64oCzCQ

[sand atlas]

That looks like a fairly decent case from the reviews that are available. It's still a budget case so don't expect too much in the way of luxuries.

[real galleon]

so maybe better to go with cheaper one? then get a better case later, kinda the way it sounds

[sand atlas]

Both are budget level cases, if you like the way the more expensive one looks you can go for it

[elfin trout]

neo air neat

[fervent elk]

MSI MPG Series A750GF Power Supply?

[fierce pivot]

Good power supply

[scenic lance]

Does anyone know a compact, beautiful case in which I can mount a powercolor Red devil rx 6700xt vertically? And without the graphics card kissing the glass window.

[fierce pivot]

P500a should do the job but not exactly compact

Only bigger cases really allow that

[scenic lance]

Ok thx

[fierce pivot]

Np

[patent crystal]

ayo

ive been trying to find a o11 thats big and is all white

like this build

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMReycPKc/

@fierce pivot

i cant find one

do i just spray paint it then?

[fierce pivot]

I believe there's an all white o11d, but if you have a budget of anything below like 2k don't even think about it

O11d comes with 0 fans

[patent crystal]

my budget is over 2l

2k

which one

[fierce pivot]

Aight

[patent crystal]

bc like

[fierce pivot]

Idk called like winter edition or something

[patent crystal]

i think the guy in the vid

wrapped it or something

[fierce pivot]

Possibly

[patent crystal]

it was just a regular

o11 XL

white

i dont know how to do that though

[fierce pivot]

Actually @pliant bridge what's your o11 knock off called again?

[wanton briar]

There's the Antec Crystal and Metallic Gear Neo Qube or something

[fierce pivot]

Neo qube is probs the one

[wanton briar]

https://www.newegg.com/white-metallic-gear-neo-qube-dual-chamber-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811700009

[fierce pivot]

Wack that's not on pcpp

[patent crystal]

ill just buy the regular one then

i just gotta figure out

how to wrap

it

or spray paint it

[fierce pivot]

Nvm it is just compatibility filter

Aight

[patent crystal]

is it safe

will it damage the case if i do

[wanton briar]

I can't imagine it looking that great tho

[fierce pivot]

Just put masking tape over the ports and power button

[patent crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-o11-dynamic-e-atx-full-tower-case/p/2AM-000Z-00049?item=2AM-000Z-00049&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-cases+(computer+cases+-+atx+form)-_-2AM-000Z-00049&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh8K4kdeu8gIVi25vBB0BdwD4EAQYBSABEgLI8PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

like here

i wanna wrap or spray paint the black

[fierce pivot]

Mb see if you can get white ehh stickers instead

[patent crystal]

ah i see

[minor portal]

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[dusty echo]

whats a good psu for a system that has a i7-1700kf and rtx 3070ti? just wondering, pricing out a desktop

[chrome iris]

MSI A650GF or Enermax Revolution DF 650w time

[fierce pivot]

I'd go enermax revolution d.f. or msi mpg 650w/750w/850w

Dam yams beat me

[chrome iris]

Wait how much power does 3070 Ti use again

[fierce pivot]

Enermax revolution df 650w price sucks tho

Same as 3070

[chrome iris]

Ok yeah 650 will work good then

[fierce pivot]

Basically a g6x 3070

[dusty echo]

alr thanks

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[trim stag]

Is this good

CORSAIR Carbide SPEC-Omega RGB Mid-Tower Gaming Case, 2 RGB Fans, Lighting Node PRO Included, Tempered Glass- Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2YJXLM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_SD0387Z76ERW9T64TZ7H?psc=1

[wanton briar]

Overpriced and outdated, I cant imagine airflow is good

[odd rapids]

For that price, might as well get the P500a DRGB

[fading torrent]

whats the best micro atx for airflow

[balmy fable]

Phanteks p200 is really good I heard

[fading torrent]

i have that and its terrible airflow
rgb looks nice but like for corsair 4000d airflow is better

[fading torrent]

ok

[wanton briar]

Thats a mITX case, it's not mATX

[elfin trout]

Mb311L might work for you

[odd rapids]

NR400 is good

[sharp remnant]

Hey, even though I've had my case since my November 2020 build, I was considering painting the side panel to something that fit my liking more than basic black. Any particular media you'd suggest to paint it up?

Due to lack of documentation, I would think oil paint is not a good idea, but it's the medium I work best with.

[fading torrent]

spray paint better i think

[sand atlas]

It really depends on the material you're painting on and how detailed you want it to be. Spray paint is fine usually, and you can do some basic stencil painting easily.

[sharp remnant]

yeah, i figured spraying the bg would work best, but i considered acrylic brushing the better option to make the paint feel less obvious

[junior silo]

Anyone here ever built a custom case, before? Not a mod, but fully custom. I've done a semi-custom by building a temporary case out of an aluminum toolbox, but it lacked... a lot. It sucked, for lack of peripherals, which I can definitely add but I'm not sure the most efficient way to go about it. Was wondering if there were any guides anywhere for how to optimize my process, or any advice on such a build. Airflow simulations to get the most efficient ventilation placement isn't a problem for me, fortunately.

Also, does anyone know why carbon-graphite composite isn't more commonly used for case material? It's not too expensive, can be ordered to preferences, and has optimal material qualities for a case.

[junior silo]

Btw, if you use spray paint, use autobody quality. It's more durable, and more meant for metals. You can also get a wider range of colors.

[sharp remnant]

Thank you, I was going exactly for auto body paint because my pops has a bunch available already. Just gotta make those custom colors!

I just need to look at the hexadecimal codes i want.

[weary vine]

Metal cases easier to manufacture in bulk

[peak briar]

So.. I'm in the planning stages of a rebuild of my gaming rig. Going from intel to Ryzen. I've got every component i need down except the case. I'm opting to air-cool my rig since I don't plan to overclock anything.. What are some examples of good cases designed for air-cooling?

[fierce pivot]

Most cases are designed for both air and water, most aios will work in most cases but p360a, p400a, p500a, lancool mesh ii, corsair 4000d/5000d airflow

But you'd be perfectly happy putting aios in all of them and custom loops in all but p360a probs (the 400a/4000d airflow would work for custom but might be a tighter fit

[peak briar]

I'm not looking to use AIOs... not up for the maintenance that comes with them..

[fierce pivot]

Aios have 0 maintenance

And ik i was just explaining it to you anyway

[fierce pivot]

Bar cleaning but you gotta clean an air cooler too

[elfin trout]

You don't usually need to

dust usually barely sticks onto the fins on an air cooler

not that much resistance, just gets blown through

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough

I mean tell that too my gpu fans xD

Different tho ik

[elfin trout]

look at your gpu

does air get blown through it

:p

anyways

[fierce pivot]

Aye it does

It a 3 fan pass through

[elfin trout]

so air gets blown through the pcb?

:p

[fierce pivot]

Well not through the pcb

But like through some of the fins

[elfin trout]

that's more resistance

[fierce pivot]

I schee

The on 24/7 cuz mining probs no help lol

[elfin trout]

mine has been mining for a while, still haven't really seen dust buildup

[fierce pivot]

Weird

[elfin trout]

my case does have a pretty thicc front dust filter thing tho

it's kinda like a sponge in the front

[fierce pivot]

I've a 4000d airflow, not a super thick filter but gathers a good amount and it's cleaned every week

[elfin trout]

I just don't clean my filter for months

doesn't really matter, dust just doesn't get in

that filter is thicccc

[fierce pivot]

Damm

[elfin trout]

it's a sponge

[fierce pivot]

Mine a dusty boi

I also have dusty room tho cuz dog hair etc

What case you have?

[elfin trout]

I have a pretty dusty room because carpet

focus g

[fierce pivot]

Ahh interesting

[elfin trout]

image for the filter thingy

well, that's the focus g mini

[fierce pivot]

Chonker

I get the point ye

Practically same case

[elfin trout]

but yea

it also has smol dust filters for top and bottom

[fierce pivot]

Nice

[elfin trout]

it's an annoying case to work with

but at least dust doesn't really get in

[fierce pivot]

Doesn't look like cable management room ye

[scenic lance]

i think this is where i shouldve asked

$40-60 microATX cases? preferably white but i can do black, i also can get ~$80 if it's worth it

side panel optional, i'm looking for something clean

[odd rapids]

NR400 is a nice option

[fierce pivot]

Mattrexx 400 and versa h17/18

[scenic lance]

matrexx 40?

[fierce pivot]

Yep finger slipped

[scenic lance]

yeah i think i'll go w that

or at least one of my options

thanks btw

[fierce pivot]

Np

[scenic lance]

@fierce pivot sorry for the ping but they only have 55 and it's standard atx

[fierce pivot]

Ohh where are you looking?

[scenic lance]

i can only do shopee unless my parents agree i can buy somewhere else

but there is this

[fierce pivot]

Shopee?

[elfin trout]

oh boy

SEA

[scenic lance]

yeah like amazon but sea

[fierce pivot]

Uhh what country are you in?

[scenic lance]

[fierce pivot]

Ohh nvm

[scenic lance]

philippines

[elfin trout]

least it's not lazada, shopee good

[fierce pivot]

I was like both wegg and Amazon are in stock

[scenic lance]

the shipping will cost more than the case lol

[fierce pivot]

Yeyeye i getcha

[scenic lance]

but i think DLM21 isn't bad, its mesh too

[fierce pivot]

I was just confused

[scenic lance]

yea sorry for not clarifying

[fierce pivot]

It's aight

I would check nr400 then imo

[elfin trout]

no mb311 or mb320, it's sad

a random assortment of metalicgear cases, but no matx

@scenic lance also, why matx?

mATX boards can fit in ATX cases

[scenic lance]

yeah but im used to matx

we'll be moving out and my case might not fit under the table

[elfin trout]

uh how low is your table to the ground

[fierce pivot]

How low down will your table be?

[scenic lance]

barely fits because it has a support beam under

[fierce pivot]

Ughh data slowing down sending sorry imma just leave mr1 to do this lol

[elfin trout]

bai pato

there's also ATX cases that are just kinda thicc

[scenic lance]

but i just want a smaller case, it's cleaner too

[fierce pivot]

DW I'll just lurk

[elfin trout]

aight

[scenic lance]

thanks pato

a lot of reviews saying dlm21 is pretty good but the solid front panel doesn't have good airflow

there is a mesh version on shopee

[elfin trout]

lmao meshify c mini is 7500php

was not expecting that much

[scenic lance]

yeah 😕

$43 for dlm21

$148 for meshify c kek

[elfin trout]

2500php for versa h15
https://shopee.ph/CA-1D4-00S1WN-00-i.168271831.5243654933

[scenic lance]

i'll add as an option

only two so far but i'll find more soon, anyway we'll only move out around jan

gtg sleep Mr111 thanks a lot

gn

[elfin trout]

good night

[fierce pivot]

Np, shame matrexx 40 wasn't available tho decent case, although h15 is a nice case too

[drowsy night]

Does anyone if a EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 will fit in a Lian LI LANCOOL II MESH?

[fierce pivot]

Yep

[drowsy night]

cool thank you

[fierce pivot]

Np

[minor portal]

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[azure harness]

Hi guys, what do you think of the XPG defender pro case?

[mild roost]

it's a decent case, but too expensive for my liking

4000d exists for lower price

[azure harness]

Where I live the xpg=100$ and the 4000d=160$

[azure harness]

Where I live the xpg=100$ and the 4000d=160$

[mild roost]

huh

how about p300a and p400a?

[azure harness]

The nh-d15 won’t fit in both

Lancool 2 isn’t available too

[fierce pivot]

What country are you in?

[azure harness]

Algeria

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

Emm what's the price of p500a or metallicgear neo air or cougar mx330 air

But if none of those cheaper xpg looks aight

[azure harness]

The p500a isn’t available and the p400a is about +30$ from the xpg

[azure harness]

The p500a isn’t available and the p400a is about +30$ from the xpg

is the extra 60$ of the 4000d worth it

[fierce pivot]

Nah the xpg will probs do fine

[azure harness]

Thanks a lot

[fierce pivot]

Np

[icy cape]

What one is better the silverstone Rl05 or the pm02-G?

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[weary vine]

SCAM LINK

DO NOT CLICK

@grand ether bot asleep again

[fierce pivot]

/steam 💀

[grand ether]

[unreal epoch]

I really want a Fractal Design Torrent now...

[wanton briar]

Yeah its beautiful

[unreal epoch]

It looks unique, and even harkens back to older Case design (Top Mount PSU) but it does so tastefully, and is probably one of the best out of the box airflow cases ever designed.

I'd get the RGB Model, though I don't think it comes with an RGB Hub, which makes me a sad panda because my motherboard has no ARGB support.

😢

[fierce pivot]

Gn has already done a vid on it https://youtu.be/HBxo2_lwKps

Looks good ngl

Although idk bout top mount psu

[unreal epoch]

I watched the video from Hardware Canucks

But, Time to watch PC Jesus and see how badly it REALLY thrashes the competition

[wanton briar]

Almost done watching the GN video

[unreal epoch]

I find it odd that it's 180mm fans on the front.

[mild roost]

nice airflow

[unreal epoch]

Why not just run all 140mm's?

[mild roost]

but i dun like psu on top

[unreal epoch]

Why not?

[wanton briar]

They did it for more airflow

[mild roost]

i like bottom psus more

[wanton briar]

180mm fans can be less rpm but still push a crap ton of air

[mild roost]

im not sayin it's bad ofc

[unreal epoch]

Buy, moar airflow

*but

[mild roost]

just not likin it much

[unreal epoch]

Top PSU allows for more airflow, and a tiny bit more exhaust heat.

Hot damn, that's 8C colder than my P400A Stock

What CPU do they torture test with again?

Is it a 7700K or 8700K?

[fierce pivot]

Haven't gotten to watch but i heard beats all the cases

[weary vine]

best this year

[fierce pivot]

Damm

[weary vine]

so far that is

[wanton briar]

I would 100% buy one as soon as it is on Newegg but I already got another case that i need to do a build in before I buy more cases

[unreal epoch]

Once I get some cash stuffed away, I'll definitely be buying this case.

Because then I can use it as an excuse to replace my Fiancee's case with my P400A

And, she already liked the idea of a White P300A, so...

[wanton briar]

I might just buy one and put it away for awhile since I have another build planned currently

[unreal epoch]

I only have to just upgrade my case, to get her a case upgrade.

🧠

[wanton briar]

Fractal also released the Ion+ 2 today

[fierce pivot]

Eame

[unreal epoch]

Even though the Torrent is nearing the 250 pricetag for the RGB variant, I think it's still well priced for what it brings to the table.

[fierce pivot]

3900x iirc

[unreal epoch]

Oh, also I remembered. Top PSU superior for PSU temps

Because the fan is an intake

Though, it might intake CPU air, but... the CPU is already basically going to be arctic cold anyway.

Especially in this case.

[fierce pivot]

Ehh

Psus are already intake

[wanton briar]

from outside the case

from inside the case you are going to get more airflow

[fierce pivot]

Ye at bottom

Ahh

[unreal epoch]

You are going to get EVEN MORE airflow with the PSU being at the top of a case with full positive pressure.

This case has no fans set to Exhaust.

By default.

[fierce pivot]

Neither does the px00 series by phanteks iirc

[unreal epoch]

Oh god...

The bottom also supports 180mm fans.

So, you could buy 4 180mm Air Penetrator fans

[wanton briar]

comes with 2 180mm in front and 3 140mm on bottom

[unreal epoch]

From... I think it's Silverstone that made the Air Penetrators.

[wanton briar]

super epic

ye it is

[wanton briar]

I am so tempted to order one

[fierce pivot]

190$ too much imo

Rather get a p500a

[unreal epoch]

But, even better thermals.

[wanton briar]

bunch of big fans, all PWM also

[fierce pivot]

Ohh pwm fans

Hmm

[unreal epoch]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Phanteks fans are only 3 pin

[elfin trout]

Sad noise tho

But it's good

P500a also got better GPU thermals

Dunno why considering torrent had bottom intake, but eh, P500a still neat

I just don't like torrent being 200$, it's out of reach for a good amount of builds

[mild roost]

^

gotta wait for sales

if it's 160 i would be more ok

[sand atlas]

I'm mostly interested in the water cooling features like the hidden fill ports and holes for reservoirs, I'd consider getting the torrent and getting a weird size rad with the stock fans.

[coral bear]

So, how are the EVGA BR psus? I am planning on shoving it into a super cheap prebuilt that needs a higher wattage psu for what I plan and I can get one on the cheap.

[vocal tree]

it's okay

my pc is running on a 450BR

970 + i5-4460

should be fine with a bit more, and ofc higher watt models will handle more

[coral bear]

Ah, good. That is pretty much the same specs as what I'm shoving a 500w into, thanks

[vocal tree]

nice

I think the BA are a bit cheaper and about the same tier

if that's any use

[coral bear]

Hmm, they are about the same right now. Might as well get the BA, I can get a 600w for a dollar more

[vocal tree]

vroom

[cyan surge]

Has anyone bought and built in the torrent yet

[sand atlas]

No but I'm considering using it for my custom loop.

[cyan surge]

do it i wanna see it

[tall rune]

Gamers nexus actually just posted a review of it yesterday

[cyan surge]

oh i know im waiting for a sick custum loop build

[hollow gale]

I didnt even know 180mm fans were a thing

[fierce pivot]

Hmmm seems the torrent doesn't have much cable management room

[vocal tree]

[weary vine]

Yee pretty rare

200mm fans are also a thing

[elfin trout]

200mm fans common