cases-psu-and-cooling

[elfin trout]

well

most likely modern one is p-gm

[rancid helm]

thx, I am building a pc for my friend

[elfin trout]

next would be n1, that likes to catch on fire

you asking for most likely to explode or least

[rancid helm]

most

[elfin trout]

dunno if you should call them a friend if you want one to explode

[rancid helm]

well, according to hime we're friends

him*

[storm drift]

lmfao

[elfin trout]

For legal purposes, I don't condone this behavior

[open adder]

[elfin trout]

For informational purposes, P-GM blew up during overload testing

therefore, lower wattage P-GM is the most likely modern PSU to blow up

[rancid helm]

well, no, it's to recommend for him not to buy, even though I am building it

not buying it

totally

[vocal tree]

hopefully that's the case

[open adder]

Why dont you ask for a good one

Then

Lol

[elfin trout]

tis what happened to p-gm during overload testing

caps aren't supposed to look like that

[storm drift]

yo m41111 you seem knowledgeable, wanna take a look in #old-cooling for me lol

[minor portal]

SmashMouthVEVO#6756 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[elfin trout]

and fets aren't supposed to look like this

[unique pilot]

I don't get how gigabyte get away with having the pgm on the market

[elfin trout]

@storm drift the answer is not white and not rgb, it's called Arctic P12 >:D

but seriously white rgb fans are wacky.

meh

who knows

[vocal tree]

arctic p

I'm gonna get p14s tho

[storm drift]

if you say so lol, im building a minecraft server with all rgb parts because i think it will be funny

[elfin trout]

the OEM is MEIC apparently for p-gm

[open adder]

The lian li ones are decent for airflow

[elfin trout]

it will be funny

how light your wallet will be

[vocal tree]

[elfin trout]

but seriously, if it's just going to be a server, Arctic P12's are great fans for cooling, and look decently

[storm drift]

just a server, i take my minecraft very seriously thank you very much

lol imma prob just go with those then and get a rgb strip

im alr using my old g skill rgb ram from my actual pc so that should be unicorn barf enough

[coral bear]

Get white P12s and put those Phanteks halos on them

[storm drift]

im going to put 5 of these p12s in this mini tower case

for a ryzen 3 2200g and no gpu

[coral bear]

Actually, I think you can use the halos wth black fans too, they just look way darker 🤔

[vocal tree]

yea

it still looks kinda neat

more subtle light

[coral bear]

Good compromise for performance and rgb

Ten dollars or more a pop though 🤔

[vocal tree]

run without them for the build if you want to lower the initial cost

then add them later

don't have to outright swap fans

[coral bear]

I wonder what would happen if you put the halos on a rgb fan

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-kid-screaming-funny-when-see-gif-16743295

[coral bear]

Maybe the lights would mix and you get a brown light and the universe implodes

[fast pendant]

O-M-G

my eyes burn!!!!!

[fierce pivot]

Cablesss

[proper pulsar]

any budget matx case suggestions?

[upper egret]

Hey guys, so i have been struggling to find a 650 watt psu under 100 dollars. Any recommendations? Theres so many diff specs and ion know what to choose thanks!

[scenic lance]

msi agf is $90 i think

also does anyone know what fan controller the 500dx has and how many you can connect?

[sand atlas]

Looks like the bundled gigabyte psu that came with my gpu is DOA. It failed the paperclip test. It also clicks loudly once you remove it from power.
I'm waiting to hear back from Gamers Nexus if they want it. If not I'll make them send me all of their stock of power supplies until I get one I can at least use as a backup tester. That would mean less of them to get force-bundled with the graphics cards.

[opal night]

PGM?

[sand atlas]

Yep

P850GM specifically

I don't know how these things pass QC when half of them arrive DOA

[vocal tree]

Cool

[upper egret]

Hey guys so in the Psu tier list. It recommendeds the Corsair CX however its an 80+ bronze, should i go for gold, or does it even make much of a difference overall

[vocal tree]

80+ means it's more than 80% efficient at some amount of load

and the materials, i.e. bronze, gold, just indicate higher efficiencies than that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

so from bronze to titanium, there's diminishing returns

[sand atlas]

In short: it doesn't matter. It's just an efficiency rating system. It has absolutely nothing to do with quality.

[vocal tree]

CX is a good power supply line, go for it

only the unenlightened dwell on 80 plus rating 😔

[sand atlas]

The high explosives that are the gigabyte PGM series are gold rated lol

[vocal tree]

my grandpa's TT psu is gold rated, c tier

cool

I didn't know there was an 80 plus site

[fickle estuary]

Any case you guys recommend?

[sand atlas]

For what? There's different cases for different needs

[willow sierra]

Can anyone explain me what's with gold platinum titanium psus? Some people tell me it matters, some tell me it has zero importance.

As with everything else 😄

[fierce pivot]

It doesn't matter, it's their efficiency rating

[opal night]

It's an efficiency rating from the manufacturer

However, the actual savings are pure marketing BS

Going from gold to Titanium will save you maybe $10 a year

[fierce pivot]

Refer to this chart

[opal night]

But cost a heckuva lot more

[fierce pivot]

If on 24/7

[willow sierra]

If it doesn't matter, why it's a big price difference between same brand, same W, different efficiencies 😄

And thanks for the chart.

[opal night]

Because marketing

[willow sierra]

Thanks, so problem solved.

[opal night]

Just get gold

Forget the rest

[neat shell]

Can someone share that psu list?

[willow sierra]

Thanks again.

[opal night]

It's pinned here

[fierce pivot]

[neat shell]

AWSOEM!

[opaque fossil]

Anyone got a suggestion for a 40-50$ case with good airflow

Its the only part aside from the gpu that I need

[opal night]

Metallic gear

[opaque fossil]

Any specific model?

[opal night]

https://www.phanteksusa.com/products/metallicgear-neo-air-black

[opaque fossil]

It looks quite sleek as well, I'm strongly considering it

[elfin trout]

oh hey neo air is back

[opal night]

Ya, from Phanteks direct tho

Err one else out of stock

[opaque fossil]

I found a pretty similar case to it but for 7$ cheaper, what are your thoughts? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1543118-REG/cougar_mx330_g_air_gaming_mid_tower.html

[elfin trout]

mx330-g air is the one I like

neo air has a better built chassis though

[opaque fossil]

It comes with one more fan included

[elfin trout]

But also only LED (mx330-g air)

[opaque fossil]

Yeah but I'm also on a 850$ without good gpu budget and I'm at 802$

[elfin trout]

Can I see the list?

[opaque fossil]

Good point, I would've prefered argb, I guess I'll keep looking

Ok

Hold up, my data didnt save so I'll put it in a sec

[elfin trout]

Aight

[opaque fossil]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx#selector_88 Ik there isnt a gpu but my friend who is upgrading said I could keep his old gtx 1050 ti (which I will upgrade) also I already have a boot drive.

How does it look?

[opal night]

Link doesn't work, just takes you to a build your pc page

[opaque fossil]

Darn

Well its a ryzen 5 5600x, 16gb ram, msi b550 mobo, 1080p 165hz monitor, and 600 watt psu

with a 1tb hdd

and 256gb nvme boot drive

[opal night]

what ram speed

[opaque fossil]

3200

[opal night]

Bump it to 3600 C16

[opaque fossil]

I would, but I would have no money left since I would have to get a 30$ case

[opal night]

Hamstringing that cpu

[open adder]

Go intel

Maybe

11400

[opaque fossil]

also, gpu I will hopefully upgrade to once the shortage (again hopefully ends) is rtx 3060

Oh nvm

[opal night]

Ewwww

bad MICROCENTER

$349 for a 5600x!!

-_-

[opaque fossil]

I found a 3600 kit for 2$ more

[opal night]

MSRP is 299

[opaque fossil]

xD

[opaque fossil]

Does msrp even exist

[opal night]

Yes

For CPU's, you bet

Shame on MC for scalping CPU's

[open adder]

Why 5600x

11400f is 160

[opal night]

Cuz the 5600 will beat that

[opaque fossil]

But I mean it's not a horrible deal since Im getting a discount of like 20$

with cpu mobo pair

[open adder]

It doesnt worth x2 money

[opal night]

It's still above MSRP

Can't believe MC is scalping CPU

[opaque fossil]

But that's sadly the only one they scalping

[opal night]

Last I heard 5950x was overpriced as well

By about $150

[opaque fossil]

I mean newegg also has 5600x for 350$ so

[opal night]

That's not Newegg

That's a third party

😉

[opaque fossil]

Ahhh

Well I gtg, I'll be back

[opal night]

AMD.com restocks on THursdays too

[elfin trout]

Also, use pcpartpicker.com

[barren sparrow]

2nd*

[scenic lance]

does the 500dx have a built in fan hub or something?

and if it does

how many fans does it support

[fierce pivot]

I believe it does

I'd be surprised if it didn't support the max amount of fans in the case so like 7 or 8 anyway

[elfin trout]

@scenic lance doesn't look like it has a fan hub

@fierce pivot usually fan hubs that comes with the case only supports a few more than it comes with

[scenic lance]

frick hmm

any cheap fan packs or something i can use that come with a controller?

or should i just hook em up to the mobo

[fierce pivot]

ohh oof

[elfin trout]

I mean, there's good controllers and then there's just cheap splitters

[fierce pivot]

sorry i misread that as 5000dx is there a 500dx?

[elfin trout]

As in afaik, td500 mesh controller can only support 3 fans, so does p500a controller

500dx is the only -dx ..?

Unless you're thinking Corsair 5000x

[fierce pivot]

ohh i just knew there was a 4000x or something so my brain twisting things clearly

[elfin trout]

Be quiet pure base 500dx is the dx case

[fierce pivot]

ahhh

[scenic lance]

any recommendations?

for a fan hub

[elfin trout]

I like NA-FC1

but that's me

[scenic lance]

what a funky boi

hmm

[elfin trout]

It's an overengineered lil thing

theoretically can drive up to 100 fans by itself

[scenic lance]

wat

[elfin trout]

The Noctua PR guy also tells me they have tested the FC1 with 100 fans! Now, granted, these were Noctua fans which don’t draw much current, but you get the idea that the FC1 will control all the PWM fans that will fit in your case.

anyways, it's an overengineered lil thing that's kinda great

[scenic lance]

time to calculate how many fans im getting

i still havent decided between matx tower and mid tower kek

[elfin trout]

anyways, @scenic lance depending on how many fans you're driving, might even make more sense just to grab some splitters

[scenic lance]

also the fact i want an aio just to look good is not helping things

[elfin trout]

aios sometime come with splitters for themselves

[scenic lance]

does ek's come with em?

[elfin trout]

iirc

check ek manual

[scenic lance]

ok yea they do

[scenic lance]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TvCQD alright final build is prolly gonna be something like this

yes i know im paying extra for shiny lights

yes i know im dumb for doing that

but like

let me be dumb but shiny

or i could go mid tower

and EVEN MORE SHINY

but also i do want a white build

aaaaaa

[leaden magnet]

I'm just lucky if I can pick up a new processor ;-;

My ass still using a pentium

[vocal tree]

pentium what

[leaden magnet]

Processor

I think it's the one

Pentium II

No that's a lie

Wait

[fierce pivot]

I'd recommend ballistix 3600mhz rgb ram instead its the same price and faster

[leaden magnet]

;-;

[vocal tree]

screenshot taskman

[alpine fox]

It's not CPUs that are a problem to get right now.

[leaden magnet]

I'm using my phone

[leaden magnet]

oh they are...

[leaden magnet]

I still run Windows 7 we don't have detailed CPU descrip

When I get home I'll show you

Also nice I5

[elfin trout]

pay extra for ballistix rgb or g.skill trident z rgb that looks nice, not crappy corsair rgb ram >:P

[fierce pivot]

If you get trident z make sure it's cl16 too because they do some cl18 modules

[elfin trout]

what

[elfin trout]

3200c18?

[fierce pivot]

Well no but 3600cl18

[elfin trout]

the ram in there is 3200c16, on Intel

so

I assume they're going to swap it out for 3200c16 again

[fierce pivot]

True yes i forgot which speed they had for a sec tho

[elfin trout]

but ye

[hidden crane]

Can I install multiple LED fan Hubs in the same rig? Or would that not be compatible?

[opal night]

If you have enough ports on the MB, yes

[hidden crane]

Nice... good 2 know

[scenic lance]

does anyone have thermal and noise benchmarks on the 205m?

[fierce pivot]

gamers nexus might

[elfin trout]

205m no

Lancool 215 they do

[noble leaf]

Anyone ever get cable extensions that dont work?

Jiggled the 24 pin a little and it came on after a few presses but i dont think that was the issue

[fierce pivot]

Cable mod are the only reliable apart from lain li strimmers iirc but they can be a pain/expensive

[outer folio]

BitFenix has a decent kit

[noble leaf]

i have antec cables

[elfin trout]

nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJxoATZyds

[scenic lance]

if 215 and p360a were the same price i'd still go 215 lmao

but 215 is never $70

[elfin trout]

ye

so p360a better

[scenic lance]

i'd like to see a p460a tho

wonder when that's gonna be a thing

[elfin trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren sparrow]

If I need a molex connector and I don’t have one could I use a let’s say EPS to molex connector? Would that work?

[vocal tree]

from the cpu power to a molex?

that sounds hog wild

[barren sparrow]

Maybe sata then?

[vocal tree]

what psu do you have that doesn't have molex ports

[opal night]

cxm :/

[barren sparrow]

Kinda an impulse buy saw it at BB for $70 and semi modular doesn’t really matter to me

[coral bear]

Doesn't the CX650M come with a molex cable?

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-pleading-cry-pleading-cry-cry-pleading-gif-18656617

probably does

[barren sparrow]

Nop

I’ll show u

Should I just get sata to molex?

I’m so stupid

Nvm

[barren sparrow]

Everything I just said

I am so sorry

Jeez I’m stupid

My bad

😫

[barren sparrow]

My bad

[vocal tree]

xd

do you still have that cable in the box

[barren sparrow]

Yep it’s my first build so im kinda confused a bit

1 last question

If the fans are daisy chained

Do I plug it into sys fan1 and it’ll power all the other fans right?

Or do I have to do sys fans 1 2 and 3

[vocal tree]

what fans do you have ;o

[barren sparrow]

Stock case fans

[vocal tree]

ah, what case

[barren sparrow]

Sams 3d black (Ik may have been a bad case my friend got it for my b day in March)

He said it was good for $50

Idk tho

[coral bear]

Do you mean this?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197007

[vocal tree]

looks like an okay case to me

[barren sparrow]

Yep

According to the reviews it’s compared to the meshify C

But idk

[vocal tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpz7YfGxS70

[coral bear]

Oh yeah, it is that case

Now I know why it looked so familiar

[barren sparrow]

Ok ty

[vocal tree]

yw

[barren sparrow]

Also the rgb Idrc if it’s addressable it just looks cool anyways

And airflow is a big idea for me

[vocal tree]

it looks like a decent case to me

[barren sparrow]

Yeah the mesh front panel is nice plus the magnetic dust filters and a good io

[vocal tree]

8:24

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-push-nerd-gif-4899021

[barren sparrow]

But I wish it wasn’t fixed and that it’d flow

But wtv he said it was ez to build in

[barren sparrow]

Lol he does that often to

Too*

[vocal tree]

xd

[rich hazel]

Can i fit 3 120mm fans in the front of the Phanteks P360a?

[opal night]

No

[rich hazel]

alr

[scenic lance]

does anyone have any recommendations for front hdmi port pc cases?

like for vr

also possible rgb 🙂

[opal night]

Front HDMI?

[scenic lance]

yup

or maybe an infinity mirror case that isnt the inwin or abyss

[slate creek]

How is the thermaltake Core V31. Is it worth upgrading from it to something more recent or should I stick with it?

[fierce pivot]

Looks like decent airflow especially if there's 2 fans in the front and the hdd cage is removed

Although i personally would prefer a psu shroud but i don't it needs to be upgraded

[slate creek]

I’m ordering one today

Where would I put the hard drives if I don’t have a drive cage?

[fierce pivot]

If you haven't already bought it i would buy a p360a instead

Same price

A lot better

[slate creek]

I’ve had it for about 4-5 years now

[fierce pivot]

Ordering what today then?

[slate creek]

PSU shroud

I found one made from black plexiglass

[fierce pivot]

Also this would only apply if you had not hdds which a lot of people have nowadays

Ehh idk I've never seen a psu shroud that's not built into the case

[slate creek]

I have 2 ssds and 1hdd

[fierce pivot]

Psu shrouds are usually part of the case a bit of metal that's part of the case and goes over the psu like

@slate creek that's what a psu shroud is

Ignore the state of my build there dont have any pics of it in new case

[slate creek]

Yeah I know what one is, I’ve seen people use the one I’m ordering and it works perfectly fine imo

[fierce pivot]

Okay lol

Make sure it fits

[slate creek]

https://www.coldzero.eu/thermaltake-core-v31-psu-shroud-short

It’s made for my case so I’m pretty sure it will

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough

[fierce pivot]

40€ wth, you can get a p360a which would probs be an upgrade for like 25 more

[slate creek]

I got it for cheaper than that, I sent that because it was the first thing that came up for the PSU shroud I ordered

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay

[misty crest]

Someone say Star Wars case mod on a DeepCool Macube 310?

[fierce pivot]

That looks sick

[misty crest]

Thanks!

[velvet orbit]

god DANM look cool

[bronze furnace]

Need assistance picking a new Psu for my mother-in-laws computer. It has a "Raidmax Thunder RX-535ap-r". What would be a good replacement for it.

[fierce pivot]

Is the psu broken?

[bronze furnace]

Yes it got fried in a power outage last week. I will be replacing her power strip as well, it is ancient.

[fierce pivot]

What specs are in the pc?

[bronze furnace]

I don't have it with me. I will have to check it tomorrow, I only had time to get a pick of the psu.

[fierce pivot]

Even roughly? Like an i5? I7 i9? And any graphics cards?

[bronze furnace]

I believe its an i7 but maybe i9, graphics is on bourd.

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2K2FT/segotep-gp-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

Something like that should be fine if there's just onboard graphics

[bronze furnace]

Thank you, I will double check everything tomorrow. Just to be sure my glance at things was correct.

[muted sluice]

Any troubleshooting advice? I shut down my PC from the desktop and then waited a bit til it was for sure off, unplugged from the wall to move. Nothing bad happened in the 2 foot move. Plugged back in, went to power on and all I can get is two clicks inside the PSU which seem to be it attempting to turn on the PC. Checked all connections, nothing is over clocked, and everything seems to be the same. Any ideas?

[fierce pivot]

Unplug it again for a minute, plug back in and leave for a minute before turning pc on mb

[muted sluice]

it came on randomly after about 20 min of attempting to turn on

i am worried to turn it back off hah...yesterday I got a mometary BSOD due to driver power state failure. could it be related? all of my drivers are updated

Shut down and same issue again, won’t come back on

[crimson galleon]

Hey guys, would a MWE 650 Corsair PSU work for my system? There is a good deal on one for $34, and I'm really considering it

My system being a 7700K, 3060ti, 32GB RAM, and 4 drives

[muted sluice]

Any other ideas? When I flick the back PSU switch on after plugging back in, the mobo and RGB will blink for second and only once. Then when i click the power button I’ll hear a click in the PSU, the lights will flash for a second and the fans will turn a fraction and it won’t start and no other lights / clicking

[opal night]

What PSU is it

[opal night]

I wouldn't be afraid to run that

[crimson galleon]

So should I get it as a replacement for my thermo nuclear PSU I have now? lol

[opal night]

I would, I trust that more than your EVGA

[muted sluice]

Thermaltake toughpower PF1 850W

[crimson galleon]

Ok, huge thanks <3

[opal night]

Huh, supposed to be a decent PSU but sounds like it oofed. how old is it?

[elfin trout]

Corsair MWE or Coolermaster MWE?

If Coolermaster MWE, depends on which one

[opal night]

awwww crap

I was going on Coolermaster MWE

[elfin trout]

I mean

there's like 10 Coolermaster MWE's

MWE Gold is great

the rest is wacky

[crimson galleon]

oh, the Corsair one

[opal night]

It's a Corsair tho

[crimson galleon]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing-Silent-Single/dp/B083LBPS4K

[elfin trout]

what

[crimson galleon]

My bad lmfao

[opal night]

LOL!

It's a CM

[elfin trout]

corsair

[opal night]

XD

[crimson galleon]

lemmie double check lol

YES

lmfao

[opal night]

White or gold cuz you said gold I thought somewhere

uhhhhh

[elfin trout]

uh

[opal night]

Eh, It's Tier C and has ripple on low load

[elfin trout]

surprisingly

[crimson galleon]

Its white

[opal night]

But

With a load it's actually decent

[elfin trout]

v1 ends up on tier C, v2 ends up on tier B

[crimson galleon]

I'm on a thermonuclear 80+ bronze, I think anything will be an upgrade lol

[muted sluice]

Brand new. Just built. Was working great. Could power cycle all thru setup no issue. Gamed fine. Randomly got a short BSOD yesterday and driver power state failure error. Restarted just fine and confirmed all my advanced power settings were good and confirmed all drivers up to date. Today I shut down (last night it didn’t come on right away but did after a minute) and it wont come back up. It did for a bit an hour ago but in efforts to troubleshoot I shut down again and it is off again

[opal night]

Eh, I'd still run int

[muted sluice]

Build below:
-Aorus B550 Pro AC
-Ryzen 7 5800x
-arctic liquid freezer II 360
-crucial ballistix m.2 2x16GB 3600 CL16
-Samsung 980 pro
-WD black SN750
-Gigabyte 2060

[opal night]

Hmmm, your cables are white or all black huh

[crimson galleon]

@opal night turns out it doesn't seem to be my fan. Yesterday it was the loudest it has ever been. I put my hand back there and it was blowing FIRE

the air was so hot

[muted sluice]

All black. I did have red/black extensions but one of the recs online was to use thermaltake extensions so I switched back to the thermaltake only stock cords

[opal night]

yeah, I think a paperclip test needs to be done

[muted sluice]

What’s that

[opal night]

Where you unplug everything from the power supply except the 24 pin and see if it will turn on manually

[opal night]

https://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/QA/PSU/PSU-Paper Clip-EN.pdf

XD

ya

Anyway, if the PSU turns on it, then we know it's an issue with the motherboard

[elfin trout]

some PSUs are fancy enough to come with a 'tester', but does the same thing a paperclip or something similar will do

[crimson galleon]

@opal night Ok, getting it right now

$39, not a bad deal at all

No more semi modular, but hey, if it means my PSU isn't hot and loud, I'm down

[muted sluice]

Good news (not really but progress) my PSU passed the paper clip test

So is that then 99% chance the mobo?

Are there any other troubleshooting steps to try before returning the mobo and deciding it’s the issue?

[opal night]

Could be Mobo CPu or RAM at this point

Any diagnostic LED"s on the board?

[coral bear]

Side note: If you do end up returning or RMAing the motherboard and you have to ship it, take pictures of its condition before hand so you have picture proof if they pull the "you damaged it, no" game if it is damaged during shipping. Or if someone at the return/rma center jabs it with a screwdriver.

[muted sluice]

None that stay on. On initial attempt to turn on the cpu on is red but then turns off. When it succeeds in powering on they each take a turn being red and all go off after a second

[muted sluice]

Thanks, will do!

[opal night]

Hmmmm

SO just not even a power on try, it just boops back off again

[muted sluice]

I just finished plugging it all back in and it powered on the first try. I went to the desktop and shut down, doesn’t come back on again

[opal night]

:/

That's really odd

[opal night]

Try this

unplug the PSU from the wall for 1-2 minutes

Plug back in, see if it boots

[muted sluice]

The final click is after I click the power button and is the psu clicking. You can see the red button blink for a second, that’s the CPU one

[muted sluice]

Yea I’ve done that one a couple times. No luck :/

[opal night]

Hmmm

[muted sluice]

You mentioned it could be the CPU or RAM, why could those be the issue?

[opal night]

Unplug everything but ATX 24 pin and 8 PIN CPU

See what happens

[muted sluice]

Kk one sec

Like all fans / RGB / cpu cooler ?

[opal night]

Anything that takes power form the power supply

drives, gpu

fan hub

etc

[muted sluice]

Kk

[opal night]

Just leave the CPU and 24 pin power connected power wise

[muted sluice]

Powers on like that

My mobo has a built in RGB light and I forgot a fan. Both are on fine

Only error light is on the VGA which makes sense with no graphics card

[opal night]

Ahhhhh

Now plug everything back in but the GPU

[muted sluice]

Now it doesn’t turn on and gpu is out

[opal night]

Ok, so even with the GPU unplugged you get a no boot

[muted sluice]

Yea

[opal night]

What all did you plug back in to power?

This is going to suck but

here's what you do

Confirm board powers on with just CPU and ATX power

Plug other powers back in one by one until it doesn't boot

[muted sluice]

All the fans, the cpu cooler, RGB etc

[opal night]

Whatever you plug in and causes it to no boot is defective

[muted sluice]

Kk

Haha fun! Idec I’ll grab a beer and try to enjoy the learning opportunity haha. I just want to get to the bottom. Will update, thanks again man

[opal night]

YW

At least you know CPU and MB good

Cuz it worked with a VGA light on

[muted sluice]

Yezzir!

[muted sluice]

Wth....so the first fail occurred when I plugged in the Phanteks case fan RGB SATA cable. Then I unplugged it and tested with the GPU to confirm the GPU worked and it didn’t power on. So then I put the Case fan’s RGB sata back in and it worked fine. Then I added in the GPU (thinking aha it’s the gpu) and now it all works and powers off and on twice now without issue 🤡

So I think it’s one of them, but they cancelled each other too?

Lol and just shut down again to test and it doesn’t come on @opal night I guess I’ll try the process again

[opal night]

OPFFFFFFFFF

burn it XD

[muted sluice]

Yea like wtf haha.

[opal night]

I'm honestly thinking GPU tho but

seems like protection is tripping in the PSU

[muted sluice]

And then I just powdered it on without issue after a second ago it wouldn’t 🙄🙄🙄

[opal night]

I really wanna say a potty word right now XD

Got another PSU to test?

[sand atlas]

Yay power problem isolating

[muted sluice]

Okay...so what can I do on the software side of it for the gpu? It’s not over locked at all

No lol.

My first build 🥲 learning is occurring

[opal night]

Nothing on the software side

This is all hardware

[sand atlas]

I got a gigabyte but I can't promise it won't blow up on you 🙃

[opal night]

I mean the PSU tests good with paperclip

But it's being spoop

[muted sluice]

I mean is there something I can look at like HW monitor or whatever to confirm the gpu is set normal and no settings are messing with it

[sand atlas]

Nah kidding, mine doesn't even turn on

[opal night]

Overclocks don't apply to boot

This is purely hardware

[muted sluice]

Oh snap okay gotcha. Good to know

It’s a gigabyte GTX 2060 OC...sooo maybe i can unclock their slight OC? Haha

[opal night]

It doesn't matter for booting

[muted sluice]

Oh very well

[opal night]

Ya

[muted sluice]

Trying another power cycle to see

Powered on/off fine wth haha....I’m at a loss. I didn’t change anything outside of what we discussed sooo

[opal night]

askdjhfakosudyfpoasdhfklajsdf

[muted sluice]

Tempted to close it up, but I KNOW as soon as I do and test once more it’ll stay off for two hours again haha

[opal night]

Broken things need to stay broken

:/

[muted sluice]

Yea. Sooo, is it even worth asking what else I can try?

[opal night]

I mean, the issue needs to get isolated to a component

Like the GPU or SATA hub or something

Or else it becomes a guess game of what to return

[muted sluice]

Yea. Can it be certain sata / pcie ports on the psu?

[opal night]

Probably not but who knows XD

try a different one or a different cable maybe

[coral bear]

Try percussive maintenance

[muted sluice]

Drop test should do the trick

I got no idea at this point. I moved around cables as well and still works power cycles fine

Now I really want to plug my red/black extension cables back in. I took them out when I was troubleshooting

[opal night]

Ohhhhh

it works without extension cables???

[muted sluice]

Yea. I took the extension cables out first thing when I started troubleshooting. So the fails we’ve discussed we’re in both extension and without extension

So I don’t think that’s it but tbd

[opal night]

Hmmmmm

spoop, spoop and more spoop

[muted sluice]

Okay so all the extensions worked (power cycled with each to check) except for the final 24 pin 🙄

But I’m not sure if it’s because my it sat off longer than the other power cycles? Do these PSUs have capacitors which lose charge the longer they’re off or anything?

Okay, powered on when I switched out the extension 24 pin for the original thermaltake 24 pin. 🙌🏻

However that doesn’t explain any of the previous power cycle issues when I was using 0 extensions

[rich briar]

Opinion on the corsair X570 case? I like the mirrored glass case >.> Any good?

[open adder]

@rich briar not worth it tbh

I would get a 4000/5000d ariflow or 4000/5000x for less money and in my opinion looks way better

Maybe not the 5000x just saw its 200$ not worth it

But 5000/4000d airflow or 4000x better value

[rich briar]

But the mirrored glass 🥺

[scenic lance]

oh damn i just realized there's a white lancool 205m

well then

pcpartpicker has fooled my once again

[slate creek]

How’s the coolermaster masterbox Q500L if I’m going for a small form factor but I want to keep my current motherboard

I have a Crosshair VIII hero and I don’t want to replace it

[fierce pivot]

That's atx tho? And where are you supposed to put your psu in that case jeez

[slate creek]

PSU is mounted on the side of the case

And the case fits ATX

[fierce pivot]

Yeah saw that nvm

[fierce pivot]

On the outside X)?

[slate creek]

Lmfao

[fierce pivot]

Gn reviewed poorly

[frozen cape]

Hey anyone know if the ssupd meshlicious actually made to the newegg store? or all the units were pre-ordered?

[slate creek]

PSU mounting

[fierce pivot]

That's terrible positioning,

[slate creek]

There’s a cable that connects the actual outlet from there to the back so it isn’t that bad I think

[fierce pivot]

It's bad for air

[slate creek]

Any cases you’d recommend?

[fierce pivot]

Thermals like

[slate creek]

That will fit the ATX board and are fairly small

[fierce pivot]

Ehhh i would look at gns channel, might have some but i don't really look at sff stuff because pain

[noble leaf]

how many pcie 8 pins are here

[fierce pivot]

looks like up to 3

[runic dew]

I need a quick opinion. Paid $100 for a phanteks enthoo primo. Keep? Sell? Is it a good case? Just curious. Vids haven't helped as they're 6-7 years old

[snow spoke]

do you plan on chucking a bunch of hard drives?

If so, then it's pretty nice ngl, though if you don't, then it's not really necessary, if you like the looks of it which i don't blame you for, then keep it

[runic dew]

It does look pretty nice. I'll most likely end up using a bunch of hard drives. thx for the opinion

[abstract arrow]

So I have a xion axp-1000k14xe bronze psu. It’s a very tight fit in the Razer Tomahawk ATX case and the wiring is making my eye twitch. Was looking to get the msi mpg 850w since I can clean up the wires a lot. Thoughts?

[opal night]

Good psu

Go for it

[abstract arrow]

Thank you @opal night

[rare quiver]

Should I go with a 600w EVGA BQ for $50 or a 550w Corsair CXM for $60

[elfin trout]

I'd grab BQ

CXm is a whiney one

[sudden pilot]

I am running the Q500L w/ a Gigabyte x570 Auto Pro Wifi w/ the Cooler Master ML240 AIO and x6 Cooler Master MF 120 Halo Fans (replaced the x2 Sickleflow fans that came with the AIO) and like the case so far. The only complaint I would have is the side panel is not tampered glass. There is surprisingly allot of room in the box. I was able to chuck x4 2.5" SSD drives in the cavity in addition to the M2s mounted to the mobo. For temps I mainly see between 35 - 65 (full load).

[chrome iris]

You can get an EVGA 550 B5 for $55 too if you want

[scenic lance]

Whats a reliable 750/850w psu for a 6800xt build?

[fierce pivot]

Enermax revolution df, 850w is cheaper than 750w atm and is an a tier psu

[fierce pivot]

The airflow on the case looked horrible because of where the psu mount was, out of curiosity what cpu, gpu and where you running

[slate creek]

@fierce pivot I looked into the case a bit more and it seems to be made so the fan on the psu is facing towards the holes on the actual case

[fierce pivot]

All that means is the psu will get fresh air which isn't bad but it's blocking the air going to the cpu

[hollow gale]

wouldnt a 011D mini be better?

[fierce pivot]

I'd say so

[sudden pilot]

I am running a Ryzen 7 3800x with an AMD Radeon Pro WX 4100. I don't game on my PC so the card I have is geared more towards a workstation setup. The airflow is not to bad as I have the two fans on the bottom + one on the from as intake. The rear and two top on the radiator as exhaust. I do admit the PSU is in an odd place .

[fierce pivot]

Hmm interesting

[silver raptor]

Whats the best psu for a computer that has 16 GB of ram, GTX 1660 Ti and a Intel Core i7-10700F 2.90 GHz 4.90 GHz Max (i think)

because my computer usally encounters lag spike because of the power usage

[sudden pilot]

I tend to use a PSU that is at least twice the amount of watts the rig needs.

[silver raptor]

i see so anything you use even if its 1000W works as long as it meets the requirements for the computer?

[elfin trout]

What

There's no reason to do twice what it's drawing...?

[sudden pilot]

Yes, if your machine requires overall 400w then you're good using a 1000w PSU. Some will say its overkill. I do it for two reasons. I like my machine to be as quiet as possible so at twice the required draw the PSU does not break a sweat. As well allows future expansion if and as needed.

[silver raptor]

i see thank you. how do i know what psu and how amny watts it has?

[outer folio]

that doesn't sound like a PSU problem

[sudden pilot]

try loading the parts you have or are going to buy into this -- https://www.newegg.ca/tools/custom-pc-builder
on the top right of it there will show a rough estimate of how many watts the system will use.

[elfin trout]

The reasoning against it is that power supply requirements have not jumped up for a long time now, a bit overkill will be enough for years, for example, a Corsair Enthusiast TX 650w from half a decade ago can still run a 10700+3060ti build today

And it's much more accurate to just look at power draw testing, instead of trusting TDP specifications

Also, sure, there's no performance downside to a bigger PSU, but your wallet will complain.

[sudden pilot]

Definitely not arguing those points as they are true. it is all a balance of budget and requirments

[elfin trout]

(Considering it's a 10700f+1660ti build, I don't think 200$+ for a good 1000w PSU really makes sense)

I just needed to point out that it's not a necessity, it's your decision to make if you want to go HEDT down the line or something.

And again, lag spikes doesn't really sound like a power thing

If you're pulling too much power, the PSU will either chug along until it starts burning, or it shuts itself off if it has proper protections.

[silver raptor]

well it does freezes after high power usage

[elfin trout]

Correlation is not causation :)

[sudden pilot]

What are you considering high power usage and what are you using to measure this?

[fierce pivot]

That's more likely a stock or bad cooler problem or trying to run at 4k on a 1660 problem

[elfin trout]

Anyways, common possible issues is either only a single stick of 16gb, and not dual channel, or xmp is off.

CPU might also be throttling

and if it's freezing/crashing, maybe ram at XMP isn't stable

[fierce pivot]

Also a 1000w psu would be really inefficient for that system also so waste of money and power

[elfin trout]

Meh, efficiency curves are weird and depends on PSU too

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but waste of money in general

[elfin trout]

maybe not a waste of money, if you want to go HEDT down the line or smth

[silver raptor]

it freezes when im in a microsoft teams call

[elfin trout]

But it's not a necessity for sure

sounds like ram being wacky

[silver raptor]

oh

[elfin trout]

or just windows

[fierce pivot]

I mean fair but only in that use case really

[elfin trout]

multi-GPU mining

[silver raptor]

im not very smart when it comes to psu's :/

[elfin trout]

fairly common nowadays

[fierce pivot]

Did you do a motherboard upgrade without reinstalling windows that can cause issues

[fierce pivot]

Okay yeah fair but for a 10700 and 1660

[elfin trout]

Point is, it's not a "Definitely not" or a "Necessary"

[fierce pivot]

Fair yeah

[fierce pivot]

Do you have xmp enabled?

[elfin trout]

windows debugging steps again

[silver raptor]

xmp?

[elfin trout]

General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

[fierce pivot]

Try that first ^

[elfin trout]

Might want to turn XMP off if it's on, and turn it on of it's off tbh

[fierce pivot]

^

[elfin trout]

XMP stands for eXtreme Memory Profile, it's a setting in bios, applies settings to ram.

[fierce pivot]

Xmp on is basically making your ram not run slow

[silver raptor]

its doing the scan rn

almost done

Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline
repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag.
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32>

[elfin trout]

do the dism commands now, one by one

[silver raptor]

do i put a space everytime theres a "/" ?

[elfin trout]

You can literally just copy paste like this

[silver raptor]

it says no component store corruption detected

[elfin trout]

Next, anything you know crashes consistently?

[fierce pivot]

Then move onto the next one

[silver raptor]

nope not really

people playground crashes sometimes but thats olny when i spawn too many stuff

no component store corruption detected

using the restorehealth rn

restore operation completed successfully

[elfin trout]

cool

[silver raptor]

so do i do sfc /scannow now?

[elfin trout]

could do one more time just in case

[silver raptor]

kk

[elfin trout]

But should be good in terms of windows being bad now

[silver raptor]

thank you

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

[elfin trout]

play smth and see if it crashes

[silver raptor]

kk ill play one round of apex

wait i need to update it

eh ill run minecraft

I ran minecraft w shaders

it ran a average 60 fps as usual

[fierce pivot]

Btw can you go into task manager and take a screen shot of the memory tab

Yo see if xmp is enabled or not

[silver raptor]

for memory its using 35%

[elfin trout]

doesn't have anything to do with usage

[silver raptor]

oh

how do i know if its enabled?

[elfin trout]

task manager isn't the most accurate thing but

[fierce pivot]

It'll do tho

[elfin trout]

what does the speed say?

[fierce pivot]

Can you tell us the speed

Go into the performance tab

[silver raptor]

2933 MHz

[fierce pivot]

Hmm okay

And what cooler do you have?

[elfin trout]

xmp is on then

[silver raptor]

Cpu cooler?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah

[silver raptor]

how do i find out?

[elfin trout]

@silver raptor For now, I'd just carry on as usual, and come back if it crashes weirdly again. Maybe sfc fixed the issue, and XMP doesn't have to be off.

[fierce pivot]

You can send us a pic of the cooler

[silver raptor]

kk

[elfin trout]

might be throttling but it'd have to be pretty damn bad to be throttling

stock cooler wack

[fierce pivot]

Or it is says intel on the cooler its a stock one and that could be why

[fierce pivot]

I've a feeling it's stock tbh because 10700 comes with one iirc

[silver raptor]

ill dm you the picture

[fierce pivot]

Or similar to stock

This the cooler

[silver raptor]

yeah it looks pretty cheap

[fierce pivot]

Looks like a crappy prebuilt basically stock one

[elfin trout]

looks like someone put rgb on stock cooler xD

[fierce pivot]

Might be thermal throttling then

[silver raptor]

lmao

discord froze for a sec

[fierce pivot]

Thats way more common than it should be tbh

[elfin trout]

AMD just goes around it by making the stock cooler rgb :P

[fierce pivot]

Okay can you download hwinfo or hwmonitor and tell us your cpu temp while gaining

[fierce pivot]

Big brain

[elfin trout]

ima go but se-224-xt link here if thermals are the issue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082V7TCSB

[silver raptor]

k ill run minecraft with shaders

[fierce pivot]

Cya

[silver raptor]

My NVIDIA 1660 Ti is running 66 C average

for the temp

[fierce pivot]

Thats fine

Whats cpu?

[silver raptor]

had me worred for a sec

dosent tell me

[fierce pivot]

It should

Can you send a screenshot?

[silver raptor]

i updated my computer last night so it must of went in sleep mode

[fierce pivot]

You cant see it in rask manager, you need to download hw info or hw monitor to check cpu temp

[silver raptor]

where can i download hw?

[fierce pivot]

Just google hw info or hw monitor

[elfin trout]

hwinfo useful
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[fierce pivot]

There ya go

[silver raptor]

so the installer or portable?

[fierce pivot]

Installer

[silver raptor]

k

fosshub?

[fierce pivot]

What?

[elfin trout]

local us

fosshub works too if you want

[fierce pivot]

Ohh sure

[silver raptor]

im downloading local

what do i do now?

[fierce pivot]

Sensors only then run

[silver raptor]

kk thx

do i update or ignore

[fierce pivot]

It's fine skip it

Close

[elfin trout]

ignore for now

[silver raptor]

im still running minecraft with shaders

[fierce pivot]

thats fine yeah

[elfin trout]

ye

[silver raptor]

my geforce reached 70

[elfin trout]

it's fine

throttling starts 90c+ usually

[silver raptor]

ohh

[fierce pivot]

^

[silver raptor]

i have that over clock thing and i set the max temp for the geforce as 80 degrees (msi afterburner)

[fierce pivot]

thats fine

how many sticks of ram do you have btw?

[silver raptor]

2 sticks of 8GB ram

[fierce pivot]

are they in the slots furthest away from cpu, skip then a the next stick?

[silver raptor]

beside the cpu

i can send you the picture

[fierce pivot]

yeah, you might need to take off the side panel to get a proper photo btw

[silver raptor]

all i can do is turn the l;ights off

[fierce pivot]

you can post pics here now btw, also its just a few screws at the back

[silver raptor]

oh

well thank you for helping me out

[fierce pivot]

np, if it comes back im sure someone else might know whats up

[silver raptor]

also for being into the microsoft teams call the power usage turned from high-very high to low-very low

[fierce pivot]

weird

[silver raptor]

yeah

[fierce pivot]

maybe try make sure gpu acceleration is on in ms teams

[silver raptor]

probably using that command prompt fixed it

[silver raptor]

nvm it goes from low to very high

its mostly at moderate

but it dosent freezes

[fierce pivot]

nice

[elfin trout]

nice

[modern arrow]

https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/RMx-Series/p/CP-9020200-NA

is this a good psu?

[opal night]

Yes, however, Enermax REvolution DF is cheaper and just as good

Maybe not Canada though, check prices

[elfin trout]

RMx is nice enough

Revo d.f. not in stock in can

[modern arrow]

Never heard of enermax, one sec.

[elfin trout]

@modern arrow all you have to know is Revo d.f. is based off the same platform as RMx lol

Both are slightly modified CWT GPU

[modern arrow]

Ok ok thanks.

My recommended psu was a 750w but I'm gonna get a 850w for future upgrades.

[elfin trout]

most PSUs are from one of the major OEMs, with a new brand label slapped on

RMx is still great

Revo DF just tends to be cheaper in the US

[modern arrow]

The Revo DF you guys are talking about is the same price as the corsair psu

On newegg for me

[elfin trout]

ye, we usually work with US prices, but for cad prices, RMx might come with cheaper shipping and such

[modern arrow]

Seems like most of the retailars don't have the RMx in stock. Might have to buy it off of Corsair's website.

[alpine fox]

I invested in a 750w Phanteks Amp PSU, even if it's a little overkill for my current hardware.

[sand atlas]

Leaves room for upgrade later, not a problem to me

[fierce pivot]

Nice psu too

[alpine fox]

But there's a difference in "only 10 bucks more for a hundred watts extra" and paying for a 1000w PSU.

[chrome iris]

I have a 650w AMP and a GTX 1070, only two things that are actually future proof, or can be for a long time as case and PSU, so you made a good choice

[scenic lance]

are there any airflow oriented white matx cases?

cuz if not i think this is going to be my final build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zYVxvf

[edgy tiger]

@scenic lance corsair 4000d white

[scenic lance]

i meant like matx mid tower, matx mini tower, that sorta thing

[edgy tiger]

Well, I officially haven’t gotten enough sleep lmao how did i miss that

[scenic lance]

lmao ur fine

[edgy tiger]

The 011mini is in white right? I know its technically ATX but

Its really more matx oriented

[scenic lance]

hmm anything else that i wont have to get a ton of fans for?

also i dont really want to spend more money on an sfx psu

[edgy tiger]

I dont think the o11 is sfx

[scenic lance]

i thought it used an sfx psu lemme see

[edgy tiger]

At least with an Matx mobo

Oh yeah its sfx

[scenic lance]

if pcpp's auto sorting thing is correct it's sfx

[edgy tiger]

Hmm... i know cooler master made an matx i liked a while back

[scenic lance]

hmm

[scenic lance]

nr400?

[edgy tiger]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDhmP6/cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b311l-kgnn-s02

I think it was this in white

OOH i also love the corsair crystal series

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8xWfrH/corsair-crystal-280x-rgb-microatx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011137-ww

[scenic lance]

is there a link to a white version?

i cant find one :/

[scenic lance]

$170

[edgy tiger]

Hmm might have been custom

Yeah, its expensive but a good looking case

[scenic lance]

also is that a mesh grille on the 280?

also kinda looks a bit funky :/

the bit at the edge

[edgy tiger]

Actually, might have found the ultimate

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f42bt6/aerocool-aero-one-mini-eclipse-microatx-mini-tower-case-accs-pb1814321

I have heard a lot abt this case, and airflow looks good.

Have had pretty good experiences with areocool in the past

[scenic lance]

isnt that one with the really annoying proprietary fan headers

i cant find caSES

[edgy tiger]

I haven’t heard that, maybe?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cW9tt6/silverstone-ps15-microatx-mid-tower-case-sst-ps15w-g

[scenic lance]

yeah apparently they do

[edgy tiger]

This is basic but silverstone has yet to let me down and GN likes it i think

[scenic lance]

actually that looks pretty nice

[edgy tiger]

Its real cheap and airflow looks good

[scenic lance]

that is one basic io

[edgy tiger]

Exposed PSU is annoying, but honestly thats a very soft bullet to take

That looks good at least, fast USB

[scenic lance]

wait there's no shroud LMAOOO

[edgy tiger]

Yeah...

[scenic lance]

how did i not see that

case mod time

[edgy tiger]

Well most pcs i work on dont have them

[scenic lance]

after all, why do saws exist

to CUT OPEN CASES

[edgy tiger]

Hah. You definitely could, but you cold make it look nice w/o a bacement

Tuck the cables to the back panel and then put extensions on or something and you struck gold

[scenic lance]

ima see more stuff on pcpp

gimme a sec

[edgy tiger]

I tried that- nothing else screams good

Everything else is either EXTREMELY cheap or bad airflow

[chrome iris]

thers no white version

[scenic lance]

and it's a microwave

hell yea

[edgy tiger]

Actually there is an entermax case maybe

[scenic lance]

the shell one?

[edgy tiger]

Yea... but i am really rooting for the areocool or the silverstone

[scenic lance]

looks funky, might give it a shot

[chrome iris]

that silverstone is a pain to work in

makes your cables look horrible btw

is just a rebranded, different colored, and different front paneled FBM-X1

[scenic lance]

i mean i'd rather not deal with proprietary stuff, if the fans or hub break and i cant return it's gonna be hell to work with

[edgy tiger]

That was still a good case for me

Build quality for that price was on point

[scenic lance]

hmm darkflash dlm

21 mesh

could be promising

dunno

[chrome iris]

DLM21 is very nice to work in, sucks that it doesnt have any fans tho, kinda decreases the value

[scenic lance]

i mean it's like $50 tho right?

[chrome iris]

$55-60

[scenic lance]

hm

cant find signs of it in stock :/

[chrome iris]

and its out of stock everywhere

yeah lol

[scenic lance]

might stick with the 205m then

[chrome iris]

any reason the case has to me MATX?

[scenic lance]

i kinda wanted something smaller just so the overall build looks cleaner

also easier to travel with if i really have to

[chrome iris]

hm, you do you

I regretted getting micro ATX

[scenic lance]

i mean if it really doesnt work out i do have an atx build

[chrome iris]

ended up switching to an ATX case anyways because I upgraded my mobo

MATX just never has enough room for me

[scenic lance]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhsd7X this is the atx one

[chrome iris]

interesting

[scenic lance]

hm?

what's wrong with it then

[chrome iris]

nothing

its a good list

[scenic lance]

do you know how many fan headers the prime has?

[chrome iris]

i see only 3

you could always get a fan hub though

[scenic lance]

no the 500dx only has 3 fans

[chrome iris]

3 including CPU header btw

[scenic lance]

oh

hm

ig ima grab a splitter too

[chrome iris]

or that yea

[scenic lance]

also are the pure wings on that thing voltage controlled?

[chrome iris]

lemme see

the fans included are Pure Wings 2, which ive used before, they're 4 pin

so PWM

[scenic lance]

wait what they are?

pwm?

ive heard they arent lemme chck

[chrome iris]

i remember them being PWM

[scenic lance]

this is what they say on their website

no idea if that means the fans are pwm

or not

[chrome iris]

oops, their connector is actually 3 pin

so yeah, they're not PWM, my bad

[scenic lance]

so is that a yes on the fan regulation?

[chrome iris]

you cannot control speeds on 3 pin

[scenic lance]

oh yea right hmm

[chrome iris]

er, you're able to have them spin at one speed

just no fan curves

[scenic lance]

heard the fans get pretty loud when they ramp up

[chrome iris]

3 pin fans cant ramp up

you set one speed and they stay at that speed iirc

if anything, even if you cant control them, they were definitely quiet

[scenic lance]

aaaaAAA

im getting so many different answersSRGeihu

yea i think ima grab a 500dx + splitter

[chrome iris]

alr

[scenic lance]

if it's too loud i can just turn volume up

[chrome iris]

it wont be

[fallow cairn]

Ye you can change the RPM through the voltage supplied

It’s not as accurate tho

[gritty hull]

so an incident occured
plugged in a new psu
my fanctroller has now melted itself.....
could it have been that my old one crashed to prevent a short
and this new one just didnt?

[hollow gale]

possibly. seems like a fair assumption to make

[weary vine]

what psu is this?

[gritty hull]

Old was a EVGA NEX supernova 750B

[weary vine]

new one?

[gritty hull]

and the one that shorted corsair pro 750w

corsair pro 750w

both quite old

the fan controller is just the one on the front of my case

where i can choose voltage

so fan controller might be an overstatement

can send picture

[vocal tree]

that's basically what fan controllers are

one or more knobs in a 5.25" bay

[gritty hull]

U can see where it melted itself

[hollow gale]

where does the meleted wire lead?

the psu?

[gritty hull]

yes

the psu

trough a molex (i think they are called that)

[hollow gale]

yeh. seems your assumption was right

the fact that it happened on the input side would suggest yor hypothesis was correct

[gritty hull]

guess i gotta buy a new fan controller? and hope for the best

[hollow gale]

what kind of connectors do your fans have? 3 pin/ 4 pin?

or are they molex as well?

[gritty hull]

3 and not molex

like that

[hollow gale]

cool, then yeah, just buy a new fan controller

I got a 4 prt deepcool one, and it does the job

but you wont be able to control it like you do currently

[gritty hull]

all i want is one that work, so going to do some research first

just waiting to see if the pc crashes or not now

with the controller unconnected

[hollow gale]

good idea

[gritty hull]

Nope it just crashed...

one fan controller down and still a dying pc

hurray!

[hollow gale]

did it boot to windows?

[gritty hull]

booted, ran for 10-15 min

then died

Page Fault In Nonpaged Area

i should probs reinstall windows on my hdd but my motivation kinda died when i started an electrical fire XD

[hollow gale]

did you try with both PSUs?

[gritty hull]

both psus crashes of the same error code, kernel power (41)

[hollow gale]

condolences bud. never feels good when a machine is missbehaving

[gritty hull]

thinking about taking it to a pc repair place, but will probably get ripped off and im quite sure they will just replace everything til it works

[vocal talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/n6ysbg/danlian_li_a4h2o_preview/

[open sinew]

https://ssupd.com/products/meshlicious

i like this case

tiny

[opaque axle]

m e s h

[scenic lance]

d e l i c i o u s m e s h

[scenic kernel]

are rgb gpu worth it

[fierce pivot]

Just get whatever one you can closest to msrp