what happened
#cases-psu-and-cooling
clever rampart
bruh
low scaffold
what happened lul
snow spoke
lmao
neat shell
Whats the favorited cases?
summer gorge
P500a
opal night
P500A
sand atlas
Meshify C if you're on a budget
snow spoke
meshify c is not budget bruh
prolly the one with no glass panels
330-g is budget, and p300 mesh
sand atlas
When it's on sale it can be under $80, lowest I saw it is $65
summer gorge
P300 non mesh works fine too
snow spoke
mb311l is also budget, but only allows for the matx form factor
neat shell
prolly the one with no glass panels
What is considered budget?
snow spoke
cheap and reliable
snow spoke
Whats the price point that goes into budget?
what were you thinking the price of a budget case was?
neat shell
didnt know was curious to see what was the cut off
It also depends if were talking mini, mid size, full etc each of those have different price ranges and budget means something different
snow spoke
eh
sff cases do tend to be more expensive
cases in the mid matx form factor are generally cheaper than normal atx mid towers
it also applies to the motherbard form facotors, matx is almost literally an atx board with less pcie slots, that's why it's cheaper, but mini itx is cramming in a bunch of stuff together which takes more brainpower and better engineering
summer gorge
ITX and full are a lot more expensive though
snow spoke
enthoo pro for 100 bucks ain't too bad
neat shell
Only advantage of going small is for space right? Like if space isnt an issue why do mini atx
?
snow spoke
also for looks
neat shell
HAHA
snow spoke
or if you want like a dual system in a single case
sand atlas
ITX builds are fun for case mod builds, like a suitcase PC
snow spoke
ITX builds are fun for case mod builds, like a suitcase PC
coffee maker pc
snow spoke
I have been waiting to build a PC for almost a year now
oh dang, how much have you been saving up?
sand atlas
I haven't seen that one lol
I've seen lego, a toy cow, all kinds of things. Whatever you want.
sand atlas
Well I'd hope it's liquid cooled, it has a built in reservoir after all
neat shell
I dont have a set budget but I would like to stay under 3
snow spoke
neat shell
That is too funny lol
snow spoke
i'm planning on making a microwave pc as a final project for an engineering class i'm gonna take
ofc that class doesn't start for like another 3 years, but it'll be worth planning it out for the meme
neat shell
That will be pretty cool
especially if you press the door open button and its the side of the case
lol
snow spoke
planning on making the start button turn on the pc and the cancel/off button to turn it off
neat shell
Haha nice
snow spoke
it might be possible to have the numbers and the other buttons as macros but that's too much for me lmao
neat shell
Nah you can do it !
snow spoke
yeah, it's gonna take some studying and experience
but i've got 3 years to do that and that's plenty of time
sand atlas
If you do it right you might be able to test what the default buttons do, whether that's send specific signals or send signals over different circuits, and use those patterns paired with like a Raspberry Pi to interpret the signals and send the macros to the computer. Just an idea.
snow spoke
yeah i was thinking of something like that
swift bone
Hehe that’s sounds awesome I would use that as my personal pc just to say I have a microwave pc
snow spoke
lmao
open lynx
Hello there and happy Friday! I'm sorry for the intrusion, but I could use some help, please. I'm learning PC hardware and rebuilding my current setup. I'm in urgent need of a PSU but remain ignorant on the subject. I've called two local repair shops, Best Buy and Geek Squad. All stated they do not know what I need. I'm bewildered. I swear, no rocket science is involved. I'm just looking for help buying the right PSU. I will need quite a bit of power, I'm sure, as I am already in need as is, but will also be adding mics, cameras, sound boards, capture card, lighting, printer, bluetooth and more. Is 850 w enough? Which model? Gold for sure at bare minimum, right? Which PSU to get the right connections? Eeeks. I'm still learning and have a ways to go, but here's what I'm looking at;
Thermaltake 500 PSU is current PSU (ATX 12volt, 2.4, 12cm fan, 160 mm PSU box size)
Specs
-AMD Ryzen 7 - 2700, 8 core, 3200 Mhz
-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8 GB GDDR6
-ACPI x64 based PC (64 bit)
-Win 10 Home
-MSI Ltd., A320M PRO-M2 V2 (MS-7B84) Board version 2.0 (to be updated next)
-16 G RAM (to be updated to at least 32, if possible, later)
I'd love help to order the right one and will buy it right away, if possible please 😄
open lynx
2060 Super specs says I need 550w alone for the GPU?
open lynx
Corsair is considered high end?
opal night
This one is a bit overkill but leaves room to upgrade in the future to newer parts and a better GPU. https://www.amazon.com/Montech-Certified-Technology-Japanese-Capacitors/dp/B084Q4JQM9
Others are more expensive
Either of those will leave room to upgrade the CPU and run a 3070
open lynx
That's ok. I was already looking at Corsair RGB and it would push $300, i think.
opal night
OOFFF
snow spoke
dang
snow spoke
prob as an underglow tbh, but there's cheaper alternatives for that
opal night
I mean, either of those above is more than adequate for the job for $75
with lots of room to upgrade parts
open lynx
Awesome! Thank you so much! I appreciate the help. This is all new to me so I am very uneasy. You are very kind to take time out of your day for me. I will be buying one right away and will be using the advice for the bigger one just to ensure safe travels. I've learned the hard way too many times now LOL
I am okay to go with this one, correct? https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-cx750f-rgb-cp-9020218-na-750w/p/N82E16817139261?Description=corsair cx-f&cm_re=corsair_cx-f-_-17-139-261-_-Product
opal night
let me check
That's a decent unit yes
Should do everything you need it to
Little pricey IMO
But it'll do the job
open lynx
That's the best news this year! LOL Thank you!
opal night
Welcome!
open lynx
I'm ok with the price so long as i can rely on it.
open lynx
I'm so relieved! Thank you again, so much! My shiny new PSU has been ordered and is due to arrive mid week next week.
opal night
A formal recall for NZXT H1 cases. It's about time!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ZMI6MDgmw
tacit widget
yay!
I don't like nzxt cases anyway
my 2003 laptop has better airflow
than most nzxt cases
opaque axle
I kinda like the h1 aesthetically at least
I want my next build to be in some kind of weird case like Thermaltake The Tower 100
eager obsidian
hey guys
I can get this case for 80$ in a 3rd world country, do you think its a good deal?
Its the bitfenix nova mesh tg rgb, that comes with 4 included fans
its this one https://www.newegg.com/p/1W8-0050-00011
chrome iris
for $80? probably not. Nova mesh looks to have very not good cable management holes, and its mega skinny
wanton briar
For $90 you should be able to find a 220T Airflow
Better airflow, cable management and better RGB fans
Bitfenix had some popular cases quite a few years ago, but theres many better cases now
elfin trout
Other country tho
elfin trout
Price history
Look at amazon price
Pcpp doesn't track amazon price
@wanton briar unless you're mixing up p400a and p500a?
wanton briar
no
elfin trout
I don't remeber it going over 100$ at all last year, for all retailers in general
eager obsidian
for $80? probably not. Nova mesh looks to have very not good cable management ho...
You are so right
Only 160 mm max height for coolers
And mine is 172
I also have this option, but being from a 3rd world country, this one costs about 96$
90$**
elfin trout
What country exactly?
eager obsidian
Costa rica
tawdry delta
What cables do I need to have connected to test my psu with my motherboard? I don’t have graphics card yet, comes Wednesday but can I still power up my motherboard to see if it works?
elfin trout
Well, do you have a CPU with integrated graphics?
tawdry delta
I don’t, it’s a 5600x
elfin trout
There's no way to test the PSU to see if it's completely working, but you can test to see that it's not completely dead with the paperclip test
tawdry delta
How do I do that?
elfin trout
Found an old GN vid showcasing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co2RizQ8U2k
tawdry delta
Oh ok thx
elfin trout
Oh and newer PSUs will likely be sleeved and you can't tell the colors, I'll go find a pinout
edgy tiger
BTW if you do it wrong you can seriously damage something
There are pins scary close that will cause damage if connected
opal night
There's no 12VDC until it's turned on
and only one 5V wire active until then also I think
opal night
yeah but it's how you test them without a 24 Pin adapter lol
I get where you're coming from though
edgy tiger
Im fancy so I use a seasonic dongle 
opal night
That's the best way for sure
edgy tiger
Well its not a dongle but still
opal night
I used to stick my hands in 300 KV machines
edgy tiger
I just wish the damn seasonic PSU worked
opal night
12VDC doesn't worry me LOL
edgy tiger
Yikers
I am such a wimp around pcs
Although i do dumpster dive so you never know with some PSUs
opal night
As long as it doesn't say PGM or N1 you're probs safe HAHA!
edgy tiger
Yeah... but fool me once and im out of there
elfin trout
my msi mobo did come with what seemed to be a psu tester thingy
opal night
24 pin with a looped wire?
elfin trout
This thing
elfin trout
so I'm pretty sure it's just a psu tester
opal night
Yep
tacit wren
I'll bet it's a 20-24 pin adapter maybe?
Your age is showing
opal night
Your age is showing
Heh
I have a box of old stuff still kicking around
PS/2 KB and mice, PS/2 to USB adapters, all kinds of wonky stuff including my old Athlon II back when it was a die with no IHS
elfin trout
ps/2 can be really useful still
opal night
CAN be but I have nothing that uses it
elfin trout
PC :(
edgy tiger
I use an Model m so
tacit wren
PS/2 KB and mice, PS/2 to USB adapters, all kinds of wonky stuff including my ol...
You sound like you're on the warp9 hwbot team, full of old dudes and legacy hardware
These people lol https://warp9-systems.proboards.com/
scenic lance
If my pc takes 509 or 609 watts. Will a 750 watt be enough?
onyx spire
is MUSETEX Phantom good or Cooler Master MasterBox LITE 5 ARGB if not i need a black case
prefered under 100$
frosty cradle
thats nice
scenic lance
should i get a 1000 watt gold psu or a 850 watt platinum power supply
wanton briar
What CPU and GPU do you have?
scenic lance
ryzen 5 5600x and 3080
scenic lance
will 850 watt be fine for 10 years tough
wanton briar
should be
scenic lance
even when i upgrade to like a rtx 5070
wanton briar
By then the cards should be more energy efficent
scenic lance
oh but do you know a good 850 watt platinum psu for under 200 euros
scenic lance
because i thought platinum was more quiet than gold
wanton briar
no?
scenic lance
why not
wanton briar
huge price difference
scenic lance
oh okay
edgy tiger
Platinum is if anything louder, but not measurably. All it is is an efficiency rating. And for 750-850 gold is pretty good.
Noise differs from brand to brand, unit to unit.
If you absolutely need quiet Be Quiet is expensive, but probably the way to go and they are really nice units
scenic lance
Asked about psu and no one answered
My build with the 3070 uses 509w if I got 3080 it’s 609. Should I get a higher psu
Have a 750 rn
opal night
For a 3080? Forks says 850W
Soe 750W it will trip the OCP
Fora 3070 750W is more than enough
scenic lance
I’ll just keep the psu until I see what I end up with.
tacit wren
Some 3080s will trip some psu's that would normally be fine.
edgy tiger
The problem with 30 series is that it doesn’t draw crazy wall power but has spikes that can major tax a PSU
so 550-3060
650-3070,3060ti
750+-3080
Or you wont be happy
vocal talon
how bad are the spikes on a 3060 ti?
daring marsh
3080/3090 got big spikes
twin goblet
the best rgb case fans for airflow
unique pilot
enermax squas
elfin trout
Putting rgb strips in your case and installing nf-a12x25s or Nidec GTs
edgy tiger
Fax
drifting tartan
Any cases recommendations, i've been looking but i just can fan something good
drifting tartan
rgb?
Im looking for something that can look clean and sync
The answer is yes to be clear
open quartz
tacit wren
Not really useful for the kinds of questions people ask here, but sure
I think the tier list that luke made is far more relevant to the average user
sand atlas
They have plenty of PSUs that get a 90 or better rating
Anything platinum or titanium rated got a 90 or 92 or better respectively
summer gorge
By mid tier I meant in the $100 range
No mid tier ($1000) build is going to spend $220 on a 600w PSU
sand atlas
You get what you pay for usually, and if you insist that your computer needs to be as efficient as possible, you're going to pay a premium.
The vast majority of people have no need for these, a good bronze unit works just fine (if it's good on the tier list)
elfin trout
Ion+ is more of a consumer platinum PSU, but high ripple iirc
fierce pivot
Yeah but a 220$ 600w psu is v overpriced, 600w psu's start around 70 ish for good ones
low scaffold
Yeah but a 220$ 600w psu is v overpriced, 600w psu's start around 70 ish for goo...
do you not know what overpriced means?
for an 80 plus titanium power supply it isnt bad
overpriced doesnt mean "oh i can get something worse for cheaper"
it means "oh i can get the same thing for cheaper"
and you cant
elfin trout
Their flagship titanium fanless unit does warrant a 200$ price imo, just not for me or you
fierce pivot
and you cant
1st of all calm down, I'm just saying for a 1000$ build its a waste of money to spend over 1/5 of budget on psu and you can get better options for that build like a platinum higher wattage psu for cheaper
elfin trout
I mean, first off, this was only hypothetical, second off, the "1000$" figure was just pulled out for the person, this is just a discussion about consumer high efficiency PSUs from the start
low scaffold
^^^^^^
elfin trout
tbh, I see no real reason for that efficiency db that's pinned right now (For the usual consumer at least), I feel like it'd be much more useful if we could find a database on PSU protections or ripple, efficiency is generally something that doesn't really matter, and the 80+ standards do give us a good amount of information.
tacit wren
$160 850w leadex platinum just went on sale https://slickdeals.net/f/14828707-super-flower-leadex-platinum-850w-80-platinum-full-modular-power-supply-159-99-plus-free-shipping-and-more?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
elfin trout
nice
summer gorge
Rip
opal night
👀
summer gorge
I just got my AMP too
elfin trout
@tacit wren uh it shows 200$ on wegg
tacit wren
So I guess the sale ended
elfin trout
aw
tacit wren
Was replying to the earlier comment about high end unit prices
elfin trout
ah
tacit wren
I really like these leadex cables over evga's, they're compatible as well.
elfin trout
Really?
tacit wren
The gpu daisy chain cables are a nice 16 awg and each polarity is separated
leadex is the same platform as g/p2/t2 and many more
opal night
I removed that efficiency pin
elfin trout
They use the same pinout on the PSU side?
tacit wren
Lol you could've left it, it's nbd
opal night
It was useless, not to be rude
tacit wren
They use the same pinout on the PSU side?
Given that the internals are the same, yes
scenic lance
Any decent psu’s around $70?
opal night
Any decent psu’s around $70?
Wattage needed?
Ok, I'll guess then
$2 over but fully modular and good https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8
scenic lance
@opal night sorry-I was caught up in something. Thanks a lot though your wattage guess was spot on
spare dune
@opal night My phaneteks Amp 750 watt psu is poggers. I decided to keep it.
I would attach a photo but it's not letting me
opal night
no need, I have one myself. 😉
spare dune
No worries. Should I be using hybrid mode?
opal night
nope
spare dune
Good. Because I'm not haha
wide mortar
Can anyone tell me if this case allows for DVD burners? Check this out on @Newegg: Cougar MX330-X Mid Tower Case with USB 3.0 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553030?Item=N82E16811553030&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-553-030-_-02162021
sand atlas
1 internal 5.25 bay, so yes you can fit one
wide mortar
Cool thanks
signal pecan
will my PSU be okay for my list? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8jDXb
sand atlas
More than enough, a 650 would even be more than you need
signal pecan
i know the wattage was fine i just wasn't sure about the quality
neat shell
I am sure this has been asked and answered a bunch, for that I apologize. What is the difference from bronze silver gold plat in PSU?s
sand atlas
Yeah that's about a low B grade unit
neat shell
How relevant is that effeciency?
opal night
IMO, not worth worrying about
Adds up to a few dollars a year with your average system
sand atlas
It's only a measure of how much power it "wastes" and has little effect on anything but a couple bucks a month on power between bronze and gold
neat shell
So nothing to do with performance or safety, just how much "falls off" after being drawn from the outlet
opal night
Yes
neat shell
understood. Thank you very much
opal night
Eh, I'm rocking out to tunes with my new hardware
signal pecan
Yeah that's about a low B grade unit
so it should be good for my system?
sand atlas
Yeah B tier is good for all but the highest end systems
sand atlas
No problem
neat shell
Ohh another PSU question, what is the difference between fixed, modular, and semi modular ??
sand atlas
The cables, fixed you can't change, semi modular you can change all but the main connectors, full modular you can change them all
Modular ones (and semi) are good for builds because you don't need to put all the cables into the PSU if you won't use them.
neat shell
Thank you !
copper sentinel
Anybody have a Phanteks P500A? How well does it filter dust?
copper sentinel
I also have it set up with positive pressure tho
replaced the stock fans?
dusky oyster
Psu recommendation? Want it to be able to handle the 3070
opal night
Segotep 650W modular, Phanteks AMP 650
dusky oyster
I have a 650w now and I think it can’t handle my 2070super
opal night
What 650W?
dusky oyster
That’s why I’m upgrading my psu now while waiting until I can find a 3070. It’s black screening when my resolution is up and from tests and what everyone’s had me try they think the 650 isn’t powerful enough
dusky oyster
Enermax Revolution DF ERF650AWT 80+ Gold 650W, Full-Modular Power
opal night
That should be just fine
If in doubt, grab GPU-Z and check power
You can check for voltage sag and power draw
dusky oyster
It black screens on the power test, and the 3D test. I think it was OCCT I used for it
dusky oyster
I have gpu-z too but I’m not sure where to look on there specifically
opal night
ah stand by
Open it
Click sensors tab
Down near the bottom you're looking at Pin Voltage and Power
should stay at 12V or higher under load
see how many watts it's drawing
opal night
Yeah, should be two Pin Voltages and 2 Pin Powers
dusky oyster
So I’m not sure which 2 would be the gpu but I’m assuming the 2 that are around 12v
dusky oyster
Oh yea I see that now
opal night
Under load is where it needs to be read though
I'd recommend the Heaven benchmark
OCCT can be brutal
dusky oyster
One of them right now it at 5w
dusky oyster
Okay I’ll download that one
It’s been a little while since a few people were helping me troubleshoot it, but we did put a 1050ti in and didn’t have any black screen
dusky oyster
Should I set the Heaven to anything specific or just hit run?
summer gorge
what card is it?
summer gorge
ah
dusky oyster
It’s not black screening at any point during this but it’s also not going over 95fps usually when it hits up over 100 it’s blacks out
opal night
Those are low numbers
it's at idle
Do it in windowed mode next time so you can over lay that if only one screen
I don't think it's power supply tho, I think it's GPU heating up or driver issue
dusky oyster
rancid lodge
Is it worth returning a 750w psu to get an 850w for roughly the same price? Or just keep the 750w?
opal night
Depends on models and brands
dusky oyster
Here’s the other stuff, it’s randomly blacking out on this but I can’t tell if something is dropping or spiking during it
rancid lodge
Nzxt c series
opal night
Those are actually good PSU's
rancid lodge
Found an 850w one for the same price I paid for the 750w model.
opal night
If you can get an 850 for the same price, why not?
rancid lodge
Just wondering since most people claim 850 is overkill and all, if it was worth the effort in returning the 750 lol
chrome iris
850w ain’t overkill anymore
rancid lodge
For a 3080?
Yeah
sand atlas
That's not really overkill then, 3080 spikes really high on power
dusky oyster
So I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled drivers so could it be getting too hot?
rancid lodge
Cool, thanks
opal night
So I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled drivers so could it be getting too hot?
have you used DDU in Safe Mode?
dusky oyster
Yea
opal night
Are you using 1 or 2 power cables for the card?
opal night
2 separate cables? I'm suspecting it's a card issue at this point
sand atlas
So not one cable that splits into 2, but 2 separate cables?
dusky oyster
Yea two separate
opal night
It's not getting hot under heaven, power looks fine, if a little low
I only see about 120W being used
dusky oyster
Oh when I could record the recording wouldn’t show the black screen either
During troubleshooting previously
sand atlas
Possibly a bad video cable/port?
dusky oyster
We had one cable that split into two and switch it to the two separate
Could the bios being out of date be an issue?
opal night
Motherboard BIOS? Doubtful but worth an update if you haven't ever
dusky oyster
I haven’t. I just got everything last April or may. It’s tuf b450-pro version 2007 right now
opal night
Might be worth it then
dusky oyster
I don’t even see version 2007 listed on their website anymore
It goes from 2006 to 2202
And two after that that aren’t betas so it seems like it might be pretty far behind
opal night
Yeah, try it and see!
dusky oyster
Nvm I found the 2007 but it’s 3 updates behind! So hopefully I can try that tomorrow and it’ll work. I’ll have to be sure I know what I’m doing though lol
tacit wren
use windows shift s to screenshot
sand atlas
Or windows key + prt scr
vapid owl
opaque axle
Pls don’t say it was gigabyte
low scaffold
inb4 "i got it with my gpu from newegg shuffle"
elfin trout
rip
scenic lance
Does this look alright for atx PSU 650w
opal night
No, that means nothing
opal night
I mean, that tells me nothing about the PSU
scenic lance
Ok
opal night
Check the pinned list
copper sentinel
any potential warnings about Seasonic or EVGA power supplies?
copper sentinel
specifically season Focus line (750 or 850) and the EVGA BQ or G+
opaque axle
avoid gq if you can
copper sentinel
if I manage to snag a 3080 I'd probably undervolt it anyways
opal night
The G+ is a Tier B PSU while the Focux GX/GM is a Tier A
copper sentinel
thanks for the input
opal night
Yeah, lowering core voltage doesn't fix that
upper egret
Hey guys, any advice on which psu i should get. I want 650 watts or more, and preferably semi or fully modular. At a 100 dollar or less price. Thanks!
opal night
Core voltage just lowers temps for hte most part, it's a thing miners do to save on power
copper sentinel
I've seen it drop (average) power usage by almost 100 watts while only costing ~5% perf in games
copper sentinel
I don't really mind using a power supply across multiple builds, so I figure I might as well get the 850 anyways
My current one is from 2012, don't even remember the wattage lol
copper sentinel
The G+ is a Tier B PSU while the Focux GX/GM is a Tier A
Focus or Focus Plus? Does the Plus really offer anything meaningful?
opal night
Just regular Focus is fine, both have OCP issues with high transient loads. GX or GM if you can get one of those
copper sentinel
It's a Corsair, it's at least 700W. It's lasted me just fine over the years, from a HD 5770 to a 3070 (with a couple cards in between)
copper sentinel
can't seem to find GX on PCPP
opal night
Migh thave another one, stand by
Ah, thi s is the same price so your choice https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF650AWT/dp/B07P7XLVJG?th=1
copper sentinel
only 7yr warranty on that though, other one had 10 years. Not that it really matters, just curious
lusty maple
Is 850 watt necessary for this build plus a 3070 vision or strix white?
opal night
For a 3070? 650W is fine
lusty maple
But what if I plan to up to a 3080 in the distant future
opal night
Then 850
copper sentinel
I would also add that the general trend in power usage for GPUs is going up and has little indication of going down
lusty maple
And besides corsair what are good brands? Is thermaltough any good
copper sentinel
you mean thermaltake?
opal night
Toughpower Grand only
lusty maple
Yeah, dumb autocorrect
opal night
I mean, the Enermax or Focus GM I posted above are cheaper 850W that are just fine
This is a nother top tier 850W PSU https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-P850GC-Modular-Patented-Technology/dp/B07JVC234Z
Oh wow
That Phanteks has a 12 year warranty @copper sentinel
copper sentinel
no stock though
copper sentinel
sorry Chrees
lusty maple
I do have a phantecks case so it should work
copper sentinel
I'm torn between the P500A and the Meshify 2
opal night
P500A and Phanteks AMP 750 crew
lusty maple
Not in stock lol
copper sentinel
the Meshify 2 has extra removable dust filters, which I like, but apparently the P500A isn't bad either
lusty maple
I have the B @opal night
The white one with mesh
Is this worth while then @opal night
lusty maple
Tier A?
opal night
Yes, good stuff
lusty maple
Ok cool, Amazon has the 850 watt for 10 more dollars. I'll do that
copper sentinel
@opal night When/if you get the chance, can you explain how you determine how "good" a power supply is? I always prefer learning and understanding myself, so I can pester less and help others.
opal night
I mostly use the cheat sheet pinned at the tops
of this channel
They've already done the testing for protections, voltage ripple, etc
copper sentinel
I guess this sort of thing is difficult to discern by just looking at a spec sheet
opal night
That's the thing, it CAN'T be determined by looking at a cheat sheet
The PSU needs to be tested to be sure the protections actually work and the voltage is stable
copper sentinel
yep
thoughts on Fractal Meshify 2 vs P500A? I don't care about RGB in the slightest, I just need it to support 2 HDDs and 2x 2.5 SSD, and my 280mm AIO (I know they're both capable of that just fine).
I know they're pretty similar on thermals, and ease during building. The deciding factor(s) are the price, and the dust filtering. I like the removable filters on the Meshify, even though that reduces thermal performance, but I like the concept of just removing the dust filters once in a while and cleaning them, without having to worry about going much deeper.
opal night
The P500A will cool better, it's just a physically larger case. Either will do fine, go Meshify 2 if you need something smaller. The P500A is kinda large TBH
copper sentinel
I don't mind size. My current case (also from 2012) is huge
It's mostly accessibility and convenience, and part of convenience is how easy it is to clean
dawn matrix
Meshify has the removable dust filter doe
opal night
Dust filters restrict air tho
sand atlas
"removable"
The bottom tray one that never gets dirty is removable, the front one is tricky
sand atlas
To get my Meshify C front filter off I need to remove the bottom filter, pull off the front panel, then the front filter is behind another layer of plastic that would need to be removed but I never bother lol
copper sentinel
they fixed that with the meshify 2, which is what I'm considering
and I don't particularly mind the restricted airflow, as I'm not too picky about noise in the first place
open lynx
So the newb here received her PSU, removed the old one, making notes of which wire went where and proceeded to install the new one. (The Cx750F RGB I spoke of with you just over the weekend.) I plugged in the wiring, plugged in the electricity and fired it up. All lights light up, all fans immediately kick in - but that's it. It doesn't boot/nothing going to my monitor. What the heck have I done? I thought I may have bumped an unrelated connection pin so I've endlessly checked everything. Confirmed placements infinitely too. My fingers are sore from checking and double checking! LOL This has been on going since 9 am. We're now 5 pm. I'm about to either cry or crap myself right now. I'm scared and frustrated. Any idea what I could be over looking?
opal night
What graphics card?
And, pics are worth 1000 words
If you can't post pics yet because of your rank DM them to me and I'll post them
opal night
So that has an 8 pin and 6 pin yeah?
opal night
Yeah I see now
the 8 PIN CPU going to the board
Does that split into 2 4 PIN connectors?
opal night
Is it labeled CPU?
open lynx
I followed trouble shooting tips to boot with one ram stick. It was no help
opal night
Ah
There's a light on by the 24 PIN power connector
What's the label next to that light?
That's a boot light indicating an error
What motherboard is this?
scenic lance
can u recommend any psu's which have blown up?
Im curious what PSU brands have caught fire, or blow up.
I know CXM has.
opal night
I followed trouble shooting tips to boot with one ram stick. It was no help
That's a BOOT LED which means there's an error with the boot drive
And you have no display correct?
open lynx
Correct. Display does not work.
open lynx
I have no idea what I've gotten myself in to now. I removed it and put back the old one and ended up with thee same issue. My PC is now useless.
opal night
Remove the button cell battery for 1-2 minutes
replace battery
plug in
boot it
it's called a CMOS reset
resets the BIOS
open lynx
Ok, I have to go learn how to do the battery rempoval.
opal night
EZEZ, there's a silver tab on the side you press
And the cell pops up
It's a vertical silver tab, push it away from the battery
open lynx
I don't know what I'm even looking for so remain clueless looking in the case. If it should look like a watch battery, I don't see it yet. I have to go look it up first :/
opal night
I don't know what I'm even looking for so remain clueless looking in the case. I...
100% it's under the graphics card
The GPU is covering it
OMG
I just noticed something
One of the drives you have plugged in doesn't have POWER
open lynx
That means I'm in over my head. I'm sorry to have bugged you. I ned Geek Squad after all
open lynx
I have no wires in the box that fit anywhere else?
opal night
Yes
ON the chain of power plugs going to the drive you have plugged in
there are more power plugs
use one of those
opal night
The SATA connector
Looks like this
One of the ahrd drives needs one of those
Only one drive is plugged in
do it with the power off, of course
open lynx
I can't see where it would go. The only open slot I see on the drive is an 8 pin about 1/4 inch wide. Not one inch wide like in the pic
sand atlas
can u recommend any psu's which have blown up?
Look at the E tier units on the list in the pins
opal night
Right next to the one for the data
take a pic of the drives and send pls
I'll circle it
scenic lance
lol
chrome iris
can u recommend any psu's which have blown up?
Gigabyte P-GM
Thermaltake Smart
edgy tiger
Seasonic 450 gold
chrome iris
Thermaltake TR2 non rated
edgy tiger
Og thermaltake is mad sketch
opal night
Toughpower Grands are good
edgy tiger
Oh yea nowadays i love thermaltake
But back when their logo was orange they made some weird stuff
They even made a cigarette lighter for your pc
And a drink holder in a 3 1/2 drive
opal night
A lot of their PSU's are still oof though
edgy tiger
I like pretty much all of their new stuff
opaque axle
there was that thing for a while where they just kinda stole case designs
that was a bummer
opal night
Huh, bot didn't get em
edgy tiger
Yikes
low scaffold
there was that thing for a while where they just kinda stole case designs
also just actually lied abt their coolers
i remember that
edgy tiger
You mean e5?
low scaffold
also did some other stuff
edgy tiger
opaque axle
pfft lol
low scaffold
i will never trust anything with a thermaltake logo on it
edgy tiger
I mean just looking at that gives me sketchy 2000s vibes
low scaffold
theyre the adata of case/psu/cooler
opaque axle
their old old atx cases are kinda tanks though ngl
scenic lance
Lol
My friend told me the best comment ever
when we were picking PSU's for a customer's pc.
Cases*
"Oh NZXT, easy skip, now a days they up in flames"
"NZXT is having fires these days"
best comment of my life.
edgy tiger
On instagram nzxt has a live going on rn
Just a guy with music in the background
Weird
scenic lance
Almost like my friend knew NZXT would go into fire.
edgy tiger
Lian li does some stuff well
But i am so bored of o11 builds
And h510
Yeah, their clean but so boring
There are millions of cases out there and you choose the one everyone is useing
This why i am an entermax fan
scenic lance
Lian li does some stuff well
Lian Li SL120 fans
expensive lol
prob cause of a patent
edgy tiger
Not even included in box
scenic lance
Lol
I just use normal fan cables
waste of money. RGB clip on fans
Clean but expensive
scenic lance
I use noctua in mine, gray and black fans mixed together.
lol
cause my case fan layout is wack mixing 140mm and 120
edgy tiger
For resale everyone “ooh”s and “aah”s at rgb so i just get some cheap stuff from aliexpress
scenic lance
RGB ripoff
edgy tiger
Well
edgy tiger
If you know where to look its cheap
scenic lance
and hang my christmas tree lgihts
edgy tiger
Go to aliexpress
scenic lance
But Aliexpress sketchier than Alibaba
and Alibaba used alot in china
lmfoa
lmfao
edgy tiger
Well
scenic lance
I used it in shanghai
edgy tiger
They the same
scenic lance
Amazon slowwww
edgy tiger
You mean e5 2650
scenic lance
Oops
*He has a e5 2650 v1
in one server
and minecraft server is in E5405
DDR2 ram
server 2019
edgy tiger
Wow
scenic lance
14gb of ram
edgy tiger
You can get better of ali for cheap
edgy tiger
Lol i have 14gb in my mac
scenic lance
why didn't you use the e1650
My mistake
e5
Can't that thing clock to like 5ghz?
Oh
edgy tiger
Uuh 1620 v2 got more clock speed i think
edgy tiger
1680 to rich for my taste
edgy tiger
Those cpus are crazy
scenic lance
images is flipped.
scenic lance
eh. xeons are confusing
edgy tiger
A bit
scenic lance
I feel like it e5 2560 could be one of intel's most controversial time periods.
edgy tiger
I like the 1620v2 bc its legit just a 4th gen i7
scenic lance
Have you seen how many god damn models there are?
scenic lance
I could def see that as a controversial intel issue
edgy tiger
They dont even all end with 0s
scenic lance
My friends xeon aint even listed on it lol
we know its 2560, but turbo can only go to 2.39
LOL
edgy tiger
Ok
scenic lance
we thought it was v1 lol
it literally said
"E5 2560"
but the boost doesn't match intels info lol
edgy tiger
Wow
edgy tiger
Is that an overclocking chip?
edgy tiger
Some xeons do have unlocked multiplyers
scenic lance
Intel says the model should boost to 2.6
edgy tiger
Some server boards do that they are not all great
scenic lance
Ah.
Why is there no god damn documentation on this thing
Its like my friends Gt 310
or 710
or 910
edgy tiger
Lol
edgy tiger
I have a gt120 i love
edgy tiger
Oof yeah
edgy tiger
I have some real mystery meat laying around here, mostly on agp
scenic lance
I have some real mystery meat laying around here, mostly on agp
... 
plz no
AGP era no bueno
I like my PCIE 2
edgy tiger
Look up the serial on ebay
scenic lance
lol
edgy tiger
Probably from one of my crackpipe dumpster diveing trips lol
scenic lance
she oldddddd.
edgy tiger
From asus
edgy tiger
Dont have any working agp boards to test on anyway
edgy tiger
Yikes
scenic lance
lol
edgy tiger
That dvid connecter
edgy tiger
Oh yeah
scenic lance
crackhead of DVI
edgy tiger
Thats what you call it
edgy tiger
I have many of those
edgy tiger
Apparently linus only heard about it 2 years ago
scenic lance
scenic lance
lol i gotta watch it.
edgy tiger
Its the cheapest on amazon one
edgy tiger
Oh yeah
scenic lance
and its not even k
edgy tiger
I have that in my mac too
scenic lance
I wonder how do i lug my atx desktop sto school...
to*
Lol
I don't want i3-6100u laptop
god awful
and can't egpu it
edgy tiger
Oof
edgy tiger
People will call the cops xD
edgy tiger
Well better than a gameing laptop