cases-psu-and-cooling

[opal night]

Need to be sure the PSU is rated for it

[rigid patrol]

3070 or 3060ti

[unique pilot]

What cpu

5800x right?

[rigid patrol]

yea

[unique pilot]

650w would do that

https://www.amazon.com/Montech-Certified-Capacitors-High-Performance-Compoents/dp/B088LPRBBR?th=1 there is this as an option but need a few more reviews of it but looks good from what ive seen

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/phanteks-amp-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p650g_us01 another option would be this slightly more but alot more reviewed

That is based on the seasonic focus gx platform the phanteks amp so a good psu platfrom

The montech uses the same platform as the corsair RMx however not as modified so up to you

[rigid patrol]

does it last a while

[unique pilot]

Both are good platforms

[rigid patrol]

i going to be having it for like 5 years

[unique pilot]

Well montech has 5 year warranty and phanteks one has 10

So either would be good for you

[rigid patrol]

ok

its on sale

ty

[unique pilot]

np

[rigid patrol]

you have CENTURY ?

[unique pilot]

No not myself

I just do alot of looking around at psu's

I have the superflower leadex III gold

[rigid patrol]

ok

i looked a super flower

[unique pilot]

Yeah superflower make some good psu's just haven't heard of the one you posted

[rigid patrol]

Montech Century 650 is Tier C 😦

right ?

[opal night]

That's just a quick and dirty cheat sheet but yes

"2] CWT GPX based units have problems with failing burn-in test under sub 90VAC input, treat as 230V only, source."

[rigid patrol]

Super Flower Legion GX Gold PRO @unique pilot ?

[unique pilot]

That is an older unit

I was speaking to the guy who makes the psu tier list the other day

The new montech century appears to use the CWT GPU platform instead which is same as Corsair RMx

[opal night]

Yeah, I read the Taiwanese review

Seems good but I'd like a few more opinions

[unique pilot]

Yeah for now maybe go phanteks amp as a safer bet

That is well known and well tested

[rigid patrol]

tier A right ?

[unique pilot]

Yep

[rigid patrol]

ok

[opal night]

mine will be here tomorrow

Time to replace this aging TR2 LMAO

[unique pilot]

Lol

[opal night]

With the GPU loaded it's down to 11.5 VDC

cringe

[unique pilot]

Yeah defo time for change

[ebon osprey]

I'm using phanteks p500a case. This 2 are rgb cables. Should I connect them?

[golden kestrel]

I have little knowledge about what actually makes powersupplies good or not besides the tier list. Ik it's a lot of things combined so too long for a discord message but could I get a recommendation on how to best educate myself?

[fallow cairn]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomshardware.com/amp/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193-12.html

[golden kestrel]

Preciate it

[fallow cairn]

np

[tacit wren]

The guy who wrote that guide, Aris, is the God of PSU reviews

[elfin trout]

Is that religion polytheistic?

[tacit wren]

nah

Jonnyguru gets an honorable mention, though

[scenic lance]

Itx case that fits strix 3090?

[vapid glacier]

where is the best place to get 1 300 or a 1600 evga psu?

[rigid patrol]

strix 3090 dang

[rigid patrol]

can not seem to find a YouTube video about it but its still my first choice

[unique pilot]

Don't get many you tube reviews of psu's you need to do research into written reviews

@rigid patrol

[rigid patrol]

ok

[rigid patrol]

your saying is better then sea sonic ?

[unique pilot]

Which one?

[daring marsh]

phanteks amp is one of the best psus

so is seasonic focus gx

but amp is cheaper

[unique pilot]

Indeed it is

Many focus gx rebrands are

[rigid patrol]

ok

[cloud current]

Any good cheap 600 watts

?

[opal night]

ABout $85 is the cheapest

[woeful juniper]

any good cases with 3-4 rgb fans included around $60-$70

[opaque axle]

Probably not, for that price you'd be lucky to get 3 black fans

[wide parrot]

got my case with 4 blue 120mm for $65 but it was a black friday deal

[opaque axle]

or yeah, static color leds

[wide parrot]

link with filters:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007583 601295320 4026 600010517 600010518 601352496&cm_sp=Cat_Computer-Cases_1-_-VisNav-_-RGB-Fan-Cases&Order=1

@woeful juniper make sure to lookup reviews to see if airflow/build quality is alright

[elfin peak]

Hey guys, I just made my build and when I plug it in and turn it on, nothing happens

How do i tell if it's the power supply or motherboard

[timid hinge]

Do the power supply fans spin up? And are all the plugs on the bored connected?

[elfin peak]

All the plugs are connected. The PSU fans dont spin. I took it out and plugged it in the wall. The light comes on but the fans dont spin

[silk crane]

Sure the front panel is wired correctly and not backwards?

[woeful juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pCjJ7P/rosewill-spectra-d100-atx-mid-tower-case-spectra-d100

is this a good case

[dawn matrix]

its a good budget case

[rigid patrol]

ow

[young osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJYIxzQjDGc

[low scaffold]

its alright

[lethal ridge]

$45 for the black one and $30 for the white

[scenic lance]

Anyone wanna see what dpd did to my new $100 case?

[lethal ridge]

The black one has removable dust filters and those hole cover things inside is already installed too

[fallow cairn]

[low scaffold]

i was talking abt the spectra

i hate corsair

[opaque axle]

I like everything but corsair's cases

I say, with a corsair case

[exotic fiber]

Lol

[gilded sundial]

anyone have custom psu s? looking to make mine look cooler for my 2021 build

[opal night]

Custom power supply? You can get RGB PSU's and cable extensions for the popular ones

[gilded sundial]

no like to make them look better. im buying a corsair 750 and my case has a psu window

just wondering if anyone has mad them look better

[opal night]

You can peel the sticker off and paint it?

Power supplies aren't things people really mod TBH

You could put a little LCD screen in the window though

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdniu3gn3Y

[tidal glen]

So shrexy

Might buy if it’s still the coolest thing in 2023

When I do my custom loop

[gilded sundial]

ok sweet. ill look into that

im going almost all in on this pc so

[narrow grotto]

can anyone recommend a good pc case that has great airflow, isn't totally expensive yet not cheap, and a sleek look? my form factor is atx.

[opal night]

Phanteks P500A

$100

[narrow grotto]

seems promising, im gonna check it out

oo

these look nice

ill add it on my list, thanks!

[opal night]

YW

It even comes with the screws organized in a plastic compartment box

Cable management is also a breeze

[narrow grotto]

thats neat

[gilded sundial]

@narrow grotto The Phanteks Evolv X is also a great case! comes with the screws and has plenty of room for cable management.

thats the case im building in now. you can even put a mini itx pc on the top!

[opal night]

You can do that with the 500A also. I mean, the manual says you can but after building in it, it would be tight lol

[fallow cairn]

[plush agate]

Anyone know how to cut out an i/o shield thats integrated into a case

Making a sleeper build

Or what tools

[opal night]

Dremel

with a metal cutting wheel

[drowsy grail]

Hey folks, what are the thoughts on the Seasonic prime ultra 1000W for a 3090 strix build?

[opal night]

👍

[drowsy grail]

found one for 300 bucks

[opal night]

It's a great PSU

[drowsy grail]

Nice, thanks

[drowsy grail]

Well crap, I received an out of stock notice for that Seasonic FML

there’s a Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 1200W - anyone have experience with this one - again, I have a 3090 strix 5950x build

some of these reviews make it seem a bit....suboptimal?

[young osprey]

why is it sub optimal?

[opal night]

It's not sub optimal

That's a fantastic PSU

[drowsy grail]

I read the Johnny guru review, seems like it isn’t entirely nodular? And single rail seems a bit more dangerous for such expensive components

[opal night]

not really

[unique pilot]

Only thing not optimal might be the price

and the fact that 1200w is overkill

could do it with 850w that or 1000w

Unless you plan to high oc

[drowsy grail]

Only thing available unfortunately

[unique pilot]

In the US?

[drowsy grail]

yea I’m in NY

1000 W or higher everything is sold out

[minor portal]

Cetus#7118 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[drowsy grail]

except for scalped stuff

Only Seasonic I can get is a focus gx 1000, no corsairs or EVGAa

figured the dp pro 11 1200 was a better option

[unique pilot]

What is the price of it

[drowsy grail]

On the dp?

[unique pilot]

yeah

[drowsy grail]

279 USD

[unique pilot]

Can get a corsair RMi 1000w for $200

[drowsy grail]

Where? And is it worth the 100 bucks difference? That ones gold

Wait that’s rm, I wanted rmx for the Japanese capacitors

[unique pilot]

The efficiency rating means nothing really

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1396122-REG/be_quiet_bn654_dark_power_pro_11.html

[drowsy grail]

Higher quality components in the x

[unique pilot]

although can get the 1000w model of the dpp11

[drowsy grail]

oh they have 1000

Hmm

[unique pilot]

Tbh you can do it with 850w

Don't even need 1000w

Or do you plan to oc the hell out of it

[drowsy grail]

I plan on moderate OC

Strix is really power hungry

1000 is comfortable

plenty of headroom

[unique pilot]

449w in furmark for the strix

[drowsy grail]

Yea that’s juicy

[unique pilot]

227w for the 5950x

Hmm yeah could do 850w

But if oc get the headroom

1000w will defo be plenty

[drowsy grail]

plus a bunch of peripherals

But yea thanks, the wattage is one thing

[unique pilot]

Not that drastic power draw the peripherals

maybe add 100w

[drowsy grail]

I’m just worried that Be quiet isn’t really known for their psu

[unique pilot]

One sec ill find the oem for it

[drowsy grail]

I think it’s fps

Fsp*

[unique pilot]

Yeah it's a custom FSP

[drowsy grail]

and idk much about them

[unique pilot]

Good from what i know

RMi is good too im sure it's different to the standard RM

[chrome iris]

usually i at the end of corsair PSUs is the best one i wanna say

RM
RMx
RMi

yep thats the case for RM series

[unique pilot]

The RMi is completely different platform to the RM

Uses an older platform

Uses same platform as the 2015 RMx

Luke the guy who made the tier list classes the RMi as A+

[chrome iris]

yes, RMi is really good

[unique pilot]

I think the guy should get that personally

for $200 can't see many 1000w units better

[drowsy grail]

RMi > RMx?

[chrome iris]

yes

both are really good

[drowsy grail]

Where is it available?

[chrome iris]

RMi just a wee bit better

looks like on Newegg, buit for a really high price

ah wait

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/rmi-series-config/p/CP-9020084-NA?utm_source=PCPartPicker_79301&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=497986_CORSAIR US Product Catalog Ad&utm_content=Content&clickid=1Rhz1m0dvxyLTl2wUx0Mo36BUkEUCkXNUQ-xz00&irgwc=1

on corsair

@drowsy grail

[drowsy grail]

Thank you very much for the help folks, I just ordered it

217 total for that RMi 1000

[honest vector]

Hi guys! I looking for a computer case for my new desktop, I have a rtx3090, I'm not sure is it will fit into the NZXT H710 or not? Any idea?

[elfin trout]

@honest vector Any chance you could get a different case?

But also, what model 3090?

[honest vector]

yea, I just think H710 looks cool, is there any other case looks clean? My 3090 is the founders edition

[elfin trout]

Take a look at the usual TD500 mesh/P500a/Lancool ii mesh, Corsair 4000d airflow might also be an option

[honest vector]

the founders edition is huge

[elfin trout]

H710 is just mediocre, at least it's not bad like H510, but it can be improved upon by quite a bit

did you get FE?

Different models are different sizes, which model did you get?

like FE, strix, ftw3, kinpin, etc?

[honest vector]

fe I think, the basic one from NVIDIA

[elfin trout]

313mm card length

[honest vector]

and also I not sure should use water cooler or not , If I use the air cooler, will it hit the 3090?

[elfin trout]

um?

[honest vector]

I mean both of them are huge, will it fit?

[elfin trout]

With an aio, you should top mount the radiator anyways, so that wouldn't really matter.
With a big air cooler, as long as you're not using an ITX board, the CPU socket is far enough away from the first PCIe slot that it wouldn't interfere

[honest vector]

ok! thanks you!!

[elfin trout]

:)

[timid hinge]

Okay so I'm taking a dell board out of the sff case and putting it in a mid tower and I cant get the board out of the case. Everything is removed from the board, screws etc. But theres still alot if resistance. What do?

[elfin trout]

@supple igloo looks like it is

this is what the orange label looks like

[golden kestrel]

Got a P750GM in a 30 series combo deal but don't plan on using it. How much do you think I could sell it for? I'm not overly fond of these combo deals

[elfin trout]

keep

[golden kestrel]

Why?

It has pretty sub par reviews.

[elfin trout]

oh wait

P-GM sucks

[golden kestrel]

Yep lol

[lofty pewter]

should be able to sell it as BNIB somewhere for MSRP

[golden kestrel]

What did bnib stand for?

[elfin trout]

Brand new in box I think

[golden kestrel]

Alright

They're not going for too much rn because like everybody is doing this lol

[golden kestrel]

I don't have the context from earlier but generally speaking that's a good psu and could def handle that build

When it says gray I believe it corresponds to the version of the particular psu. But the one you linked is good 👍

[golden kestrel]

[stray flower]

dose anyone know what fans come in the cooler master MasterBox MB311L ARGB

[vale wolf]

Could someone help me with some lighting issues with my computer?

[hollow haven]

can i take to I9 case of I7? im not a gamer and maybe at the future ill buy GPU...

[edgy tiger]

uuh...

[fair solar]

@hollow haven can you be more clear? I don’t know what you are saying.

[rigid patrol]

is Seasonic CORE GM-650, 650W 80+ worth it over the Phanteks AMP Series 650W 80PLUS Gold

[opal night]

Well, the Phanteks AMP is based on the Seasonic Focus platform

So I'd go with the AMP

[rigid patrol]

my budget is

going over a lot

[chrome iris]

rather spend a little more on something thatll last instead of having it break early and replace it

[scenic lance]

any review about deepcool matrexx 50 ? 🤔

[sinful hamlet]

is this any good https://www.newegg.com/segotep-gp-series-650w-fully-modular/p/1HU-00Z0-00007

[elfin trout]

theoretically good

[sinful hamlet]

ok

[silent zodiac]

need a good sag bracket for 3090 ftw3

[lethal ridge]

Is Corsair cv550 doable?

[scenic lance]

for?

[lethal ridge]

I3 10100 b460m setup

[scenic lance]

no gpu?

if so yes

[lethal ridge]

Yes no gpu

550w is still doable even if u put a 1660 super right?

[scenic lance]

Yes, but im not sure

[unique pilot]

No it's an awful group regulated psu

[chrome iris]

CV550 will work fine on a 10100 and 1660 super.
Yeah Its not a great PSU, and yes it is group regulated but it’s not like your entire system will blow up and burn down the neighborhood. I’ve seen people use worse on higher end hardware @lethal ridge

A 1660 super system can run on a 400w PSU so it’s not like you’re stressing the PSU all too much

[scenic lance]

cough jayson cough

[chrome iris]

[scenic lance]

CV is awesome man

[unique pilot]

ermm whatt

[scenic lance]

I used a CV450 in my brothers 5500xt 2600 build

Works just fine

And has nice black cables

I’d say it’s completely fine up to a 2060 or so

[unique pilot]

"works just fine" doesn't make it a good psu

[scenic lance]

It means it’s a fine PSU

And a good PSU in some circumstances

[teal flare]

its just an upgraded vs

its okay but not good

[opal night]

No, CV bad

CX at bare minimum

VS also poop

[chrome iris]

CX

@lethal ridge CX450 is $45 rn. Super good price on a quality unit that’ll handle your system well

I forgot about CX until you said that

[elfin trout]

CV 650 is bare mininum

cv 550 and 450 poop

[chrome iris]

😎

[opal night]

CV 650 is OK

It's the 550W and less

[chrome iris]

I wonder what makes the 650 better than the others. I’ll have to look at reviews for em

[opal night]

Different base platform

[chrome iris]

Ah

[unique pilot]

Yeah the cv650 goes to dc-dc on the secondary side rather then group regulated

[chrome iris]

Ooh

[unique pilot]

Still would rather have another psu of it was me

[scenic lance]

Yeah A tier or bust amirite

[chrome iris]

[young osprey]

EVGA B-stock or nothing

[scenic lance]

[scenic lance]

B stock has like nothing rn

[opaque axle]

I'm using a 750gq, which I hope is fine

I know absolute balls about psus

[young osprey]

LTT or J or someone should do an all B-stock build

[scenic lance]

Perfectly fine for pretty much every build

[scenic lance]

Can’t

[opaque axle]

sweet, all I really know about it is that it hasn't blown up on me yet lol

[scenic lance]

GQ is good

Wouldn’t expect one to blow xD

[opaque axle]

I gave the tom's hardware review on it a once-over but the cons they had listed went right over my head lol

[scenic lance]

Yeah it’s just really nitpicking lol

[opaque axle]

makes sense haha

[unique pilot]

evga gq aint amazing

but least has full protections

And it doesn't have a MOV in the transient filter

So i wouldn't ever use one myself

And if you do make sure it is plugges into a UPS or surge protector

[lethal ridge]

Lmao 650w for a weak setup

[chrome iris]

Yeah imagine having a really good 650w PSU on a low end setup idk like maybe a 1650 super and 1600 AF hahaha couldn’t be me

[low scaffold]

nerde

i hope decks gets techie next

or just a psu nerd

[opaque axle]

my psu is definitely overkill for my setup right now but I picked it for upgrade headroom

and also because I needed to get one at the local shop and evga gq series was like all they had >_>

[unique pilot]

you won't have that much upgrade headroom with that psu tbh sorry to say

it has pretty bad transients

[opaque axle]

I only have a 2060 right now, should be able to put at least a 3070 or 80 in it later

[unique pilot]

3070 at the most that's all

A 3080 is too high end of a gpu for that psu

[fallow cairn]

OTP could be hit or miss depending on wattage of unit. When crossloading the 5v, it moves to 2% tolerance whereas similarily price units stay below 1%, ripple crossload on the minor rails is ok whereas 12v takes a hit..it does not have an MOV in the transient filter either
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/WP6uYZihAhLzvTRviHgNhh-970-80.jpg.webp
Noise is pretty bad under stress levels
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BMEBPESVU3q6YLLpFd89ib-970-80.png.webp
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/aXpWRomX7J3qWKwmAUqubb-970-80.jpg
All in all it's it's an ok unit not the best of the bunch

[fallow cairn]

me too 😳

[opal night]

As fuc because no cursing allowed in servers...... not if you go around the filter

[fallow cairn]

[quasi kraken]

yes but it has no otp

so still poop

basically a cxm without otp

[quasi kraken]

No.

[unique pilot]

Agreed never said it was good

[unique pilot]

Also the cv650 does have OTP

[scenic lance]

It’s fine lmao

Y’all are too nit picky

[quasi kraken]

gigabyte fanboy

flashbacks to gigabyte PG-M

[unique pilot]

Not really we just look at what makes a psu good and what makes it bad

[quasi kraken]

@unique pilot I was under the impression that the CV650 was missing a protection (besides 12V OCP)

Wondering if it's OPP or OTP that's just tuned to the point where it's useless

ill look into it

[unique pilot]

Think it lacks ocp altogether but could be wrong

[quasi kraken]

No OCP all together is not good

No 12V OCP is fine if OPP is set properly

[unique pilot]

Yeah exactly

[quasi kraken]

hmmm

[unique pilot]

As long as the OPP is set well 12v ocp isn't really necessary on a psu with a single 12v rail

Lol just seen you edit that same time as I posted it

Yeah I just don't recommend the cv650 tbh

[quasi kraken]

if your budget is that low just buy segotep sg700g 😎

best power supply you'll find sub $60

[unique pilot]

I thought it was the GP-G that was the one that was good

So confusing with the segotep lineup

[elfin trout]

@quasi kraken you got any sources on reviews on the actual SG-G? Qubex never tested protections or ripple or anything

GP-G got reviewed pretty well

but SG-G got like

1 review

and SG-G is slightly different from GP-G, not the same platform

[quasi kraken]

pretty sure both the SG700G and GP600G are sharing the same platform as the enermax platimax DF 600/500w

And the only differences that qubex found were internal component selection

[elfin trout]

not sure on the platform, I think platimax was some fortron unit

[quasi kraken]

and the SG700G according to him iirc had better internal components than the GP600G

[elfin trout]

don't quite remember, thought there were just some differences in layout

[quasi kraken]

you can have some differences in layout with different platforms

[elfin trout]

Yes, that's why I think it's prob a slightly different platform

anyways

there's no issues with it, I'm just concerned I can't find anyone who had tested it yet

[quasi kraken]

slight variance in layout=/=different platform

[elfin trout]

Yes, but I thought it was significant enough

I'll go check though, might be wrong

[quasi kraken]

@elfin trout GPG 500 watt internals

SG700G 600 watt internals

They are definitely the same platform

Performance should be parity between GPG and SGG

Only differences seem to be minor like different caps, different fan bearing, stuff like that

[elfin trout]

Guess I was wrong, guess they're basically on the same platform, but some extra testing would be nice

[quasi kraken]

would be nice, but it's still better than buying a CV or a BR or an S12III

[elfin trout]

But BR :(

[chrome iris]

@quasi kraken so, just by looking at it that PSU is DC-DC, right?

[quasi kraken]

Yep

[chrome iris]

Yes I’m so smart

[quasi kraken]

Two inductors on a daughterboard on the secondary side=DC-DC regulation

[chrome iris]

Is DC-DC better than independent regulation

Or do they both have their own drawbacks

[quasi kraken]

DC-DC is independent regulation

All the rails are regulated separately

[chrome iris]

Oh I thought there was a difference

[quasi kraken]

The three main types of regulation are group regulation, DMA regulation, and DC-DC regulation

[chrome iris]

I mean there’s the one with the board, and then there’s the one without the board that’s just 3 coils right?

Oh DMA

[quasi kraken]

that's DMA regulation

double mag amp

[chrome iris]

What’s the difference between them

[quasi kraken]

It's like DC-DC but less efficient

and older

[chrome iris]

I see

[quasi kraken]

and not really used that often

[chrome iris]

Is it cheaper?

[quasi kraken]

no idea, it's rarely used now

[chrome iris]

Ok, cool

[quasi kraken]

s12III one of the only modern units i can name with it

"modern"

[chrome iris]

Thank you for the information

S12III is missing a bunch of protections right

[quasi kraken]

On DC-DC regulation the 5V rail and 3.3V rail are regulated by the two inductors on the daughterboard, and the 12V rail is regulated via switching closer to the main transformer closer to the primary side

[quasi kraken]

yes

On DMA regulation the 12V, 5V, and 3.3V rail are just regulated by separate inductor/coils on the secondary side and there is no daughterboard

[chrome iris]

Mhm mhm

[quasi kraken]

Group regulation is just two inductors

One for the 12v and 5v rail, and a smaller one for the 3.3V rail

The only difference between DMA and group regulation is that we have an extra inductor to uncouple the 12V and 5V rail from eachother

which is good

[chrome iris]

Yes

[quasi kraken]

but there are no relevant power supplies (or at least that should be) that use DMA regulation

wouldn't settle for anything less than LLC DC-DC in 2021

bare minimum is to use the proper secondary side and premium primary side topology

primary side topologies are a lot more complicated than secondary side topologies (regulation style) you'd be better off asking qubex about them 😅

but he'll just go tell you to learn how to read circuit diagrams

qubex isnt even in this server lol

[chrome iris]

LLC is what again

[unique pilot]

DC - DC isn't independent regulation

It is DC - DC

[quasi kraken]

All the rails are regulated independantly

kek

[unique pilot]

They aren't

[quasi kraken]

??

[unique pilot]

The 5v and 3.3v are regulated together

[quasi kraken]

The 5V and 3.3V rail both get their own inductor/coil

They share a daughterboard

Pretty sure they are not regulated together as one

[unique pilot]

The 5v and 3.3v is derived from the 12v rail

so is different to actual independent regulation

[quasi kraken]

But they arent regulated together

By independant regulation do you mean DMA?

[unique pilot]

Yes but you can't call dc - dc true independent regualtion

[quasi kraken]

i mean why not

[unique pilot]

Because it isn't

[chrome iris]

[quasi kraken]

If all the rails are regulated independently id say it is

but ok

[unique pilot]

In true independent regulation all dc outputs are generated by there own specific circuit

Not derived from 12v like dc-dc

[quasi kraken]

Regulation is generally used to describe the secondarg side not the primary side

Generating a DC output is the job of the primary side

thats where our actual conversion circuit is

[unique pilot]

dc-dc derives 12v into 5v and 3.3v that is a fact so you cannot call it "true" independent regulation

[quasi kraken]

But they arent regulated together...

[unique pilot]

Doesn't matter

It is not independent regulation

[quasi kraken]

Seems like semantics then

[unique pilot]

Yeah the regulation is separated unlike in GR but what im trying to say is it isn't true independent regualtion

[quasi kraken]

ok lol

whatever

[elfin trout]

Just find another term to use for "true independent regulation" since that's confusing :P

[unique pilot]

say whatever it's true

[quasi kraken]

i dont care

its a silly semantics argument

[unique pilot]

well you clearly do care otherwise you wouldn't say anything

[quasi kraken]

lol what

this is literally a semantics argument now, i dont care.

[unique pilot]

Okay then great

[quasi kraken]

on a DC DC power supply all specific voltage rails are regulated separately, you said the 5v and 3.3v were regulated together

thats what i disagreed with

[unique pilot]

when did i say that

[quasi kraken]

because they arent

[unique pilot]

i never said that

[quasi kraken]

here lol

[unique pilot]

I said that the 5v and 3.3v are derived from the 12v

apologies they are regulated separately

[quasi kraken]

kek

so we agree

i

[unique pilot]

Yeah mix use of terms from myself

Apologies

Do you agree with the difference between independent regulation and dc-dc though

The differences are minor and regulation is still separated but it is not exactly the same type of regulation

[quasi kraken]

DMA still steps down the voltage from 12V it seems

nevermind lol

it's just they step down the voltage using different methods

[unique pilot]

Ah so yes that is the "true" version then

If you want to call it that

[quasi kraken]

It's called DMA

double mag amp

"Double mag amp is one of the two ways of an "independent" regulation, in this case regulated from the secondary winding, using an inductor to step down the current to either 5v or 3.3v"

The other way of independent regulation is DC-DC

[unique pilot]

Yeah ill use that in future to give less confusion

[quasi kraken]

"DC-DC uses a similar, yet quite different technique to double mag amp. it does share that it uses independent regulation, but does it in a different way. It uses buck step-down converters to lower the voltage directly from 12v to 5v or 3.3v. "

just quoting luke from PSUcultist now

I don't know how "stepping down the voltage from 12V"=not being independently regulated...

crap im arguing semantics now

[unique pilot]

lol

Yeah strange aint it as all of them are stepping down voltages just in different ways

[quasi kraken]

if all the rails are regulated by their own inductor/coil it's regulated independently 😩

Group regulated is not independently regulated because our big coil/inductor is regulating two rails

[unique pilot]

Yeah i think we just got crossed on terms

[quasi kraken]

kek

idc SSDs are more fun to argue about than power supplies

[unique pilot]

And i said it wrong with the regulation above earlier tbh

And ssd's not my strongest point

Any resources would be much appreciated

Anything to argue the BuT wEaR lEvElLiNg argument

[elfin trout]

but but but wear leveling

[unique pilot]

grrrrr lol

[scenic lance]

GQ is fine for everything but the highest end builds.

[unique pilot]

For the price that it is though there are many better options available

[rancid elbow]

someone knows a budget 550w psu

[chrome iris]

what do you mean b budget? give us a price range

[quasi kraken]

It's literally irrelevant

The EVGA GQ is completely irrelevant

Why would you buy a power supply that's worse than power supplies that are better that cost the same

There's literally no reason.

If you're going to compromise on power supply quality you should at least be spending less money.

[scenic lance]

Dingus khan.

The guy already bought the GQ

[unique pilot]

@scenic lance regardless to whether he bought it or not you still recommending it for purchase is bad advice when as it has been mentioned to you twice now better power supplies exist for the money

[scenic lance]

Dingus Khan.

I wasn’t recommending it

[unique pilot]

@scenic lance

🤔

Looks like you are to me

[scenic lance]

How lmao

I just said it’s good

And won’t blow

[unique pilot]

well it isn't good though really is it

[scenic lance]

It’s ok.

[unique pilot]

when right now at 650w you can get a phanteks amp for less

[scenic lance]

Good compared to some things

Like, compared to thermal take smart it’s “good”

[unique pilot]

Well duh

That doesn't make the psu good though

[scenic lance]

ok.

[elfin trout]

Who cares about all the other parts of a PSU, random 80+ Gold PSU I found on the side of the street over a 80+ Bronze CX >:D

[opal night]

My neighborhood. My ThermalTake is out there right now

[elfin trout]

@supple igloo bro it's right by this "trust" company's warehouse

It's great, I've always wanted a smoke generator

YAAAA

[quasi kraken]

I'm calling the GQ irrelevant

not you talking about the GQ irrelevant

[dawn matrix]

ayyy gigabyte simp gang

[scenic lance]

Yerrr

[thorny gazelle]

I got a new psu and it runs for about 20-30 seconds then just shuts off, can anyone help?

[trail jolt]

What are the parts? and what wattage is the powersupply?

And is there any noticeable sound when it turns off

[thorny gazelle]

its a r5 3600 on a msi b450 tomahawk max, gtx 1060, and the new psu is a gigabyte p750gm and it makes a loud click when it turns off.

@trail jolt

[trail jolt]

Im gonna say faulty PSU, get an RMA, but others may have some troubleshooting steps

[opal night]

Sounds like something is connected improperly

Tripping the protection

Double check all your plugs

if they're good, definitely RMA the unit because the protections are tripping

[thorny gazelle]

alright ill double check appreciate it

[opal night]

YW

[thorny gazelle]

i have my cpu cable and pcie cable both plugged into cpu/pcie could that be an issue?

[opal night]

No, that's fine

Just make sure you're using the right cable for CPU and the right cable for PCI-E

[thorny gazelle]

yeah im getting an output on my monitors so i think thats fine

everything is plugged in properly im gonna give it one last try

didnt work :/ gonna return it

[elfin trout]

@opal night btw P-GM got moved to tier E on tier list, but I haven't looked into what issue moved it there yet.

[opal night]

Well guess we know now. Oof.

[opaque axle]

well I have a gq because it was what the shop had when I was building my pc, sorry that makes some of you so angry

[elfin trout]

It doesn't

The GQ in general is fine

Just better options at the price usually

[opal night]

Yes. Some people get overly....excited....about power supplies

I had no idea about the Gigabyte PSU though

that's oof

[elfin trout]

@opal night (excerpt from TPU testing), that's quite a nice... feature... gigabyte

[opal night]

HOLY CRAP

@thorny gazelle if you get this ping in time, DO NOT RETURN THE PSU FOR THE SAME THING. Please exchange it for another one. Read the post above. Terrible unit.

[elfin trout]

(link
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-gp-p750gm-750-w/12.html )

Blowing up during OPP testing is uh, yea.
The bit about Gigabyte not even asking for the sample to be returned to check the issue is even more concerning, as if they know it's happening, and I think the "Unknown FETs" is what blew up on him

I'll look into it more tomorrow

[jade plank]

ax850 is what is i got

[opal night]

I've read enough lol

[jade plank]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/Power-Supply-Units-Advanced/AX-Series™-80-PLUS-Titanium-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020151-NA

[opal night]

AX is good

[fallow cairn]

because it blew up haha

[scenic lance]

The thing literally exploded

HAHAHA the reviews on it on Newegg are TERRIBLE

90% of them are DOA

And it has 2/5 eggs

Why’d you buy that piece for crap in the first place

[sacred pecan]

wow i want to buy one

[unique pilot]

@scenic lance think you need to change your name to gigabyte fanboy (except psu's)

[minor portal]

Pludio#8010 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thorny gazelle]

holy crap thanks

honestly just got eager to get new parts, rookie mistake :9

it also had 5 stars on pcpartpicker somehow

[opal night]

OOF

That needs to change

[low scaffold]

lul

[thorny gazelle]

yeah...

[low scaffold]

pcpp is full of idiots

theres still positive reviews for that adata drive on there

[wide parrot]

Yeah I wouldn't use pcpp for the reviews

[dawn matrix]

WOT

i mean

i bought one a few months ago

the 850W that is

and it's been powering my 3600 and 1060 6gig just fine

[low scaffold]

[elfin trout]

@dawn matrix looks like gigabyte is buying cheap bad caps that may blow up if you put it under enough load

3600+1060 prob isn't going to do that with a 850w psu

[dawn matrix]

planning on a 3070

could that make it go boom?

[chrome iris]

Could I bet

[elfin trout]

It's risky

[chrome iris]

But you’re still not pushing 850w or anything

[chrome iris]

600w-ish?

[opal night]

Throw PSU in trash, get new

[dawn matrix]

bruh

[chrome iris]

Or sell PSU

[dawn matrix]

would it damage the components if the psu blows a cap?

[opal night]

Might

no way to know until it happens

Depends on what blows

[dawn matrix]

aaaaa

[chrome iris]

bbbbb

[elfin trout]

ccccc

[low scaffold]

ddddd

[dawn matrix]

eeeee

[chrome iris]

fffff

[elfin trout]

ggggg

[scenic lance]

Good idea

[hollow haven]

Antec VSK10 vs P5 ..?

[unique pilot]

Both have pretty bad airflow

[scenic lance]

EVGA GT 650W is what I have

It’s pretty nice

[quasi kraken]

you'd have to put the power supply in an overpower situation

either way it's pretty clear it's a unit with garbo quality control and internal components

[quasi kraken]

no its not

[scenic lance]

Why not 😦

[random vine]

would a 500w gold psu be enough for a r5 3600 + 3060 ti

[chrome iris]

try for more

i know 550w is possible

500w is cutting it close

@random vine

[random vine]

thx for the input

[scenic lance]

Send link

[coral bear]

Woot, just got my PX-850

Now I'm just waiting on my cable ties

[quasi kraken]

practically all evga psus that arent the g2, p2, or t2 all suck

[keen slate]

FACTS

[quasi kraken]

especially at their respective pricepoints

evga just uses their "lol we make good graficks card" rep to bait clueless buyers

who pay attention to nothing but brand and 80+ certification

[scenic lance]

Hey dude

Ah yes silver stone

As Linus once put it “If there’s something that almost nobody needs or wants, Silver stone probably makes it!”

Ah

I mean silver stone makes some decent stuff

So does fractal

Cougar ehhhh

Yes, dude.

[elfin trout]

@quasi kraken I still think high set ocp on g3 should become a feature on new PSUs because of high transient response GPUs

[quasi kraken]

or just make a power supply with good transient response?

and power supplies without OCP can still trip due to UVP?

[scenic lance]

Wind shields you’re a fart head

[quasi kraken]

probably

[scenic lance]

xD

[quasi kraken]

whys that

[scenic lance]

Bullying evga PSUS

[elfin trout]

:p

[quasi kraken]

the reason why transient loads trip OCP is because of the voltage drop, which corresponds with a current spike @elfin trout

on a PSU with good transient response the voltage drop doesn't happen

[scenic lance]

[elfin trout]

Well let's take uvp off too

[quasi kraken]

or at least not to a degrees where it can trigger OCP

[quasi kraken]

Ok so make a power supply that will damage itself and your components by letting them draw too much current

[elfin trout]

Lel

I still want to see some kind of PSU that lets you give up protections because why not

[scenic lance]

Epic

[trail jolt]

That’s normal

[scenic lance]

Gigabytes all about the show baby

[elfin trout]

@quasi kraken still a joke in the practical sense, but being able to just take protections off would be interesting

[quasi kraken]

closest thing to this is power supplies which can switch between single rail and multi rail mode

[elfin trout]

Yea

Actually, what happens with the protection when you swap from single to multi rail on those, I'm guessing you'd have ocp on all rails..?

Or I'm just being dumb

Probably being dumb

[quasi kraken]

i mean

the entire point of multi-rail is that you give different pin-outs on the power supply their own OCP

the only difference between different rails is that they each get their own OCP with their own individual current draw limit

[elfin trout]

Never looked into how switching works

[quasi kraken]

Single rail=the entire power supply has one OCP implementation respective to 12V/5V/3.3V rails each

Multi rail=We divide the 12V rail into segments with their own individual OCP

with a smaller current draw limit on each rail

[tidal glen]

imagine buying a power supply unit instead of a psu

[quasi kraken]

as opposed to one "big" implementation with a larger current draw limit

The purpose being that on a multi-rail power supply (when implemented properly) we technically have more precise OCP

[elfin trout]

So what about when you switch implementation on units that support it do they just disable some OCP?

[quasi kraken]

It'd make it so that all the 12V rails are using the same OCP

[elfin trout]

Disconnect bits somehow?

[quasi kraken]

or just tell the IC not to engage OCP on individual rails?

[elfin trout]

Yea they could just do that

Dunno why I thought you needed to physically do something to ocp

[fallow cairn]

@quasi kraken

[quasi kraken]

Ok

[fallow cairn]

cringe

[elfin trout]

sad

[rugged yew]

This case is good, right? Also, why is it a lot more expensive on NewEgg and other websites?

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00BR-00010

[opal night]

Never heard of that case

[edgy tiger]

It seems ok

[opal night]

Ships directly from China

OOF

[edgy tiger]

Never heard of it but sometimes thats ok for cases

[rugged yew]

I’m very unfamiliar with cases and airflow in general

[opal night]

5-32 days

What's your budget?

[edgy tiger]

Well whats ur budget @rugged yew

Dont worry vintage i got this one

[rugged yew]

It’s my sister who’s interested in it lol, I’ll ask her

[edgy tiger]

It is a pretty subjective thing too, it depends on her wants

Rgb? Color? Watercooling? Mobo size?

[rugged yew]

About $100

The one I sent is listed for $98 on amazon

[edgy tiger]

Well you can do a lot better than that china special lol

You can tell when a case is quality even if pictures dont show it

Its in the little things that big manufacturers do amazingly

[versed island]

Does any one have any recommendations for tool less cases?

[elfin trout]

TD500 mesh at similar price @rugged yew

[opal night]

Like a P400A

[rugged yew]

she's wanting pink lol, I think that's the only thing she needs

oo okay

[edgy tiger]

Hmm pink is hard lol

[elfin trout]

Pink rgb or whole pink case

pink rgb on white case is fairly easy

[rugged yew]

pink whole case, if possible

[elfin trout]

hmm

[opal night]

Indeed hmmmmmm

That may require some custom paint lol

[versed island]

Like not even thumb screw tool-less

[edgy tiger]

I think i know one

[opal night]

Completel thumb screw tool less case?

I have no idea on that one

[versed island]

My brother doesn't even want thumb screws

[elfin trout]

apevia made some pink cases a while ago

completely toolless case might not exist in the consumer market yet

every case I can think of uses some kind of screws for side panel

[edgy tiger]

What is the mobo size @rugged yew

[rugged yew]

atx

[edgy tiger]

Ok

[opal night]

I mean, it's pink?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353208?Description=pink computer case&cm_re=pink_computer case-_-11-353-208-_-Product&quicklink=true

[elfin trout]

@opal night what do you think about these? look decent, seem to recall apevia a while ago
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TWNNSW6
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DP6536Q

[opal night]

Yeah I was just looking at those lol

Literally https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-PRODIGY-PK-Micro-ATX-Gaming-Tempered/dp/B08DP6TZ3P/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=pink+computer+case&qid=1611112882&sr=8-6

[edgy tiger]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z3PgXL/apevia-predator-atx-mid-tower-case-predator-pk

[elfin trout]

lel

[opal night]

Prodigy Pk has pink mesh

Ah but it's MATX

nevermind

[edgy tiger]

So does predator i think

[elfin trout]

both of them that I linked does

[opal night]

predator PK then

[elfin trout]

yea Predator looks nice

[edgy tiger]

Yay i win

[opal night]

This one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DP6536Q

[elfin trout]

@edgy tiger I linked it first >:D

[rugged yew]

oooo okay thank you guys

[edgy tiger]

Damn

[rugged yew]

that I think should be perfect

[elfin trout]

mua ha ha ha

Though I don't really remember how Apevia is in terms of build quality

[edgy tiger]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bfCFf7/silverstone-seta-a1-atx-mid-tower-case-sst-sea1gw-g this is prob best feel but not great airflow

[rugged yew]

thank you guys so much for helping me! you guys always come through. I wish I were more knowledgeable to do the same

[opal night]

Google knows all

[edgy tiger]

I just use pcpartpicker and painful experience lol

[opal night]

That site is kinda meh for some things

[elfin trout]

Or just sit in discord and leech off other's knowledge :D

[edgy tiger]

The amount of times something stupid doesnt fit kills me

I had a 240mm radiator and i had to run it only 1 fan

Bc a vrm heatsink

[elfin trout]

lol

my d15 didn't fit my neo ram

I just moved the second fan to the back

problem solved

[edgy tiger]

And i swear EVERY BUILD somehow something like that happens

The amount of “oops cooler doesnt fit” i have went through

Its traumatic

[edgy tiger]

Yeah, i know about that one to

Bang on case but unless you are useing it a sa testbed the bord wont fit

Ali express time everyone

[rigid oyster]

Q: are there any btx aftermarket cases in the wild?

[trail jolt]

i dont think so

[rigid oyster]

oh i actually found one on alibaba

[astral grail]

Any thoughts on Kingwin PSUs? Found a used pc that has one in it want to know if I should plan on ordering something else to replace it with.

[edgy tiger]

@astral grail have heard that the lazer gold and platinum models are great

But other than that IDK

if it works it just does dont worry abt it

Just run stress tests to make sure it can keep up but after that oh well. I work with sketchy PSUs on a daily basis i would NOT buy new but they work

[quasi kraken]

Brand has little to do with power supply quality and performance, varies model to model

Older power supplies are often designed with computers of the time in mind, the lazer series is from 2011 but seems to use DC-DC regulation which is good.

You see more group regulated units in that time period since the 5V rail was utilized a bit more

[astral grail]

Yea I'm getting mine used inside of a pretty decent system for the price

[proper quarry]

rosewell

[limpid basin]

hello i have a question reagrding my NZXT 510i case. Is it enough airflow for a 2070 super ?

[daring marsh]

no nzxt sucks

[limpid basin]

so what shoudl i get

[daring marsh]

for a case?

[limpid basin]

ya

[daring marsh]

some good ones are td500 mesh, p500a, 4000d airflow, meshify c

[limpid basin]

from coolermaster

which one would you say is the best

i think ill go with the TD500

[chrome iris]

have TD500 mesh, can confirm, its nice

[limpid basin]

how do you do the ARGB

is it done on a controller, BIOS, or is it a download on internet

[opal night]

all of the above depending on your system

[limpid basin]

i have an asus tuf x570

and i got the TD500

[opal night]

ASUS Aura Sync then

[limpid basin]

how does that work

thats BIOS im guess

its a first pc for me

[opal night]

Software in WIndows

[limpid basin]

oh okay

[dawn matrix]

wait wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOE7VJC5bZY

WHAT psu did you say you're using?!?!

2:45

nvm, at 5:02 he literally throws it saying he needs a bigger one

[rigid patrol]

:0

[rustic otter]

Hi everyone. My supernova p2 850w causes my pc to shutdown when I launch games with my 3090

[trail jolt]

Is your GPU overclocked?

[lofty pewter]

which 3090 is it?

[vague tree]

techies spotted

Best budget 450-550 watt PSU?

Doing a build for a coworker and I'm undecided

I was about to go ARESGAME (the cheap one on Amazon with a 5 star rating) but iunno

[opal night]

do not

[vague tree]

That's why I'm asking here

[opal night]

I'm looking

[vague tree]

because I don't recognize the brand, but the ratings look pretty solid

and I'm too lazy to dig for the PSU spreadsheet

[vocal tree]

Corsair CX

[vague tree]

also haven't looked at GPUs since the recent stuff going down and hot dang

ugly prices

[vocal tree]

Inflation 😎

[vague tree]

I remember buying an RX 480 for 90 bucks :C

now it's like

over 1.5x that

[vocal tree]

New retail price for a 1650 Super is like 200 USD up from 180 up from 170...

[vague tree]

wasn't it like 160 on launch or something

[vocal tree]

Should have been

That was msrp

[vague tree]

Google got me

[opal night]

This one actually

https://www.newegg.com/montech-gamma-550w/p/1HU-0236-00004

It's not modular but reasonably priced and a good unit

[vague tree]

we going 80+ gold dang son

[vocal tree]

I saw the Zotac one on B&H for 210

It was 170 on there before

[opal night]

Well

Your power supply feeds all those nice components

Treat them well

Don't cheap out on a PSU lol

[vague tree]

True true

vs. my dad using the $25 500 watt and me waiting for the house to burn down

Surprisingly, it has served him and his R5 3600/32gb 2666mhz ram/old gpu (not for gaming) very well, definitely not near 500w used though

[opal night]

Yeah, if you don't push them most of them are fine

i did some testing with mine a while back

I realized my 12 volt line for the GPU was sagging to 11.3 volts under load

[vague tree]

people hate on the N1 but as of now mine still fares pretty decently

full gaming loads as well

[opal night]

They hate on the N1 because they have no protections and literally catch on fire

So do the Gigabyte power supples

[vague tree]

Gigabyte...

Makes PSUs?

now this is news to me lmao

[opal night]

No

They don't make them

They just put their name on it

Just like EVGA and all the other brands

There are really only a few manufacturers

FSP is a big one

[vague tree]

ohhhh

Like the freaking chairs that GN ranted about

[opal night]

Like, my Phanteks AMP is really a Seasonic PSU with a different paint job

[vague tree]

oh wow

[rustic otter]

It is not (other than the factory oc)

[rustic otter]

Strix

[warm mauve]

Does anyone know much about the lancool ii mesh performance bc I need help with the fan controller that's mounted on the back

[opal night]

Ye

more than enough

Bronze is not an indicator of quality. Just how efficient it turns AC voltage to DC voltage. Some bronze are good, some are bad

This is a quick and dirty cheat sheet

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Bronze has nothing to do with wattage

IMO, bronze, gold, platinum etc should mostly be ignored

Quality of the PSU is what really matters

[lethal ridge]

here it's at $191 online but iirc it's lower if u buy it on physical shops

still high ig

and the budget option now is intel lmao

[opal night]

Well, the brands I like make good and bad PSU's lol

Seasonic S12III is absolute garbage

WHile the Focus line is good

So....it gets a bit confusing

Corsair CX, RM/RMX are good

Seasonic Focus

EVGA Supernovas are mostly OK

EVGA G/G5/G1

Segotep GP-P

Montech makes a good one too, 550W

Cooler Master MWE Gold

Probably some of the more well known name brands anyway

YW

[chrome iris]

C

X

Corsair TXM 550w was only $80 today, i saw

thats a good one

@tender rapids

np

TXM?

CX is good too

TX lil better tho

and has +2 years warranty

[hearty pasture]

Any suggestions of psu with 8pin 12v cpu power connector or should i just use 4pin to 8pin adapter with existing psu?

[chrome iris]

What PSU do you have now @hearty pasture

[lofty pewter]

Seems like the PSU has a very sensitive OCP which triggers a shutdown on a 3090 due to the extreme transient loads of said GPU

generally dont have to worry about things like <1ms for most PSUs except for sensitive ones

due to strix being factory OC I'd guess the ~5ms transient load is half way inbetween the 1-5ms and the 1ms load of FE

I dont know if there are PSUs that have 1ms OCP triggers but I guess there must be unless the rest of your system is very power hungry

[mystic ember]

Anyone have a Nzxt S340 Elite case with a Nvidia 3090 FE installed? I'm seeing it I'll have any problems.

[teal flare]

probably just not good to put it in that case

350w tdp

[opal night]

Yeah, NZXT in general has bad airflow

That one even more so because it's small

[teal flare]

I think its worse than h510

[mystic ember]

Ok, that's what I was thinking.

[brazen kindle]

im looking for a good looking case, Dm pics if you want. Thx

[young osprey]

lol wat

[snow spoke]

what size and what color

[brazen kindle]

ATX full tower preferably but mid tower is fine too. Black with glass side panels, I havnt decided on the front. If you have a killer white one tho i would appreciate it

[snow spoke]

meshify c looks good

[young osprey]

maybe you should look around yourself and ask us about the ones you do find. GTFO with this 'send me pics of cases'

[opal night]

scuse me?

[snow spoke]

the h510 also looks good but airflow is eh

275r airflow looks alright, don't know if you'd like the front design, and it comes with three fans

i'll try to send pics later

[brazen kindle]

sorry bro, im just tryna find some good looking cases but newegg is plagued with paid advertising so all decent cases are buried. If you are so sensitive about my message just ignore it. I have terrible style, so id rather have other people give me some of their wisdom and experience

[snow spoke]

what angles are you looking for?

as in for case pictures

[opal night]

Full tower cases are kind of an oddity

Any particular reason for not going with a large mid tower case?

I've got this one, 7 fans, 360mm AIO, cable organization is a breeze, really nice case https://www.newegg.com/white-phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854100

[brazen kindle]

for angles i dont really care, im just trying to look for a nice case that looks good and just functions

[snow spoke]

the p500a vintage racer linked is nice

you can ask him for some pics, and also, how much will you be paying for the case?

[brazen kindle]

about 100$

[opal night]

Pics?

Its not white

but for a $100 black case, it's pretty sweet

[brazen kindle]

i might go with it, the RGB looks good, from ur pics there is a ton of space.

[opal night]

There is a ton of space

[brazen kindle]

thank you very much, really appreciate it

[opal night]

Plus the screw box

[brazen kindle]

wait one more thing

[opal night]

THey literally organize them for you

[brazen kindle]

with ur gpu in the vertical position, is there enough room between the gpu and the glass for ventilation?

[dawn matrix]

depends on the case

and the gpu

[opal night]

That bracket is extra