what is a good mid size case
#cases-psu-and-cooling
rotund leaf
opaque wigeon
@frail onyx there are better deals for power supplies on newegg than amazon and they also have a calculator https://www.newegg.ca/tools/power-supply-calculator/
https://www.newegg.ca/Power-Supplies/Category/ID-32 try shopping by best seller and you'll get a good idea of what brands make reliable power supplies
young kernel
Ive got a question about what power supply i should use in my build
Im upgrading to a 10100f and gtx 1070 with sata ssd and nvme ssd
But i already have a tt smart 500, is there any need for an psu upgrade?
echo flax
Meshify C personally, but you can find good similar cases for less than 85$
last depot
do ppl use fan filters on bottom of their cases much? im suprised some dont come with any
unkempt abyss
Meshify C personally, but you can find good similar cases for less than 85$
what company?
echo flax
Fractal Design
prisma heart
Anyone recommend high quality rgb case fans. Getting the phanteks p500a rgb case and don’t have rear fans and looking to add one in. Also should i add more fans to the top of the tower as well?
chrome iris
Honestly, you don’t need an exhaust fan, at stock it’ll work fine
Wait, are you getting the mesh version or no
chrome iris
Ok yeah another exhaust isn’t needed, but if you want one I guess I can’t stop you. That’s what I’m doing for my TD500 mesh
I’m not sure what fans exactly match the ones in the P500A, but, here’s these
@prisma heart
prisma heart
Mhmm okay then sweet.
Main reason is to keep the consistency around the case for me xD 😅. I thought it would be better to have rear exhaust fan
And some on top
chrome iris
Yeah I’m getting my rear exhaust to brighten up the inside of my pc
prisma heart
Saved heaps of money on components I didn’t need. Willing to spend money on aesthetics but not destroying performance
Was willing to have intake from top and front and exhaust on the rear i presume
chrome iris
Nah, back and top exhaust, front intake
prisma heart
Ahh okay 👌
That makes more sense dumb tom *^
That’s why if i should go with stock phantek rgb fans or the more established corsair ql 120
Silent and cool but aesthetically pleasing fans
frail onyx
<@!186237727887327232> there are better deals for power supplies on newegg than ...
according to the calculator, my system is expected to use 501 watts
wispy bough
is a Corsair RMx 650 a good mid-range psu?
opaque wigeon
@frail onyx would recommend giving yourself a little headroom, power supplies aren't the place to be cheap
a good power supply can be used in future builds remember
frail onyx
a good power supply can be used in future builds remember
yes but im the kind of person who sells his previous builds so I dont keep on spare parts
tender root
still not a good idea to save every last cent on the part that supplies power to everything
opaque wigeon
yeah, a cheap power supply can get damaged and provide less power than its rated for as an example
if you're in an area that has brown outs and wind knocking over powerlines, thunder storms or anything a good power supply will be the difference between a functioning or non functioning computer
i'd probably go to 650 or 700 on your build
which btw is totally doable for half the cost of amazon https://www.newegg.ca/thermaltake-smart-series-ps-spd-0700npcwus-w-700w/p/N82E16817153231?Item=N82E16817153231
thermal take isnt the worst at all
corsair though is great if you're going to reuse them
frail onyx
still not a good idea to save every last cent on the part that supplies power to...
yeah no im not saying this at all dont get me wrong. I am actually waiting for a chance to buy the seasonic focus sgx on sale during cyber monday (if it does go on sale)
https://www.amazon.ca/Seasonic-SGX-650-Full-Modular-Warranty-SSR-650SGX/dp/B07WVWMVP5/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=seasonic+power+sgx&qid=1605983357&s=electronics&sr=1-2
opaque wigeon
i've never had a seasonic so idk
frail onyx
they are hard to get but known as the best psu you can get
tender root
depends on the model
they make some really nice models
and they make some really crappy ones too
just like all brands :)
frail onyx
but arent they the brand that most other manufacturers use their parts?
or i am mystaking it for another brand?
tender root
they are a OEM like many others
chrome iris
@opaque wigeon PLEASE DONT BUY A THERMALTAKE SMART TO POWER 700W WITH
Thermaltake smart suckssssss
You’re talking about not getting a cheap power supply and yet you recommend a cheap and bad power supply!
opaque wigeon
i've never had issues with thermal take
i wouldnt use it across several builds though
frail onyx
never heard anything about thermaltake onmy end
elfin trout
What about starting off by looking at the tier that PSU is in?
And the tier the SGX is in?
just to start off
chrome iris
i've never had issues with thermal take
Thermaltake makes some good, some bad models. Make sure you get a good one and not some firecracker like the smart
opaque wigeon
i've got a very reliable corsair im moving to my next build
slender crane
Is the 24 pin connector supposed to have one pin missing? Just noticed and my new pc didn’t post with new cpu, gpu, and ram. Could this be it?
blazing quarry
DIYPC Vanguard-V8-RGB Black Dual USB3.0 Steel/ Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case w/Tempered Glass Side Panel and Pre-Installed 4 x RGB LED Dual Ring Fans (7 Different Color in 3 Mode Control) and are having trouble connecting the fans to the mother board
this is my grandson's first time building and we cannot find a manual or specs
please help
we tried the diypc website no manuals...
frail onyx
And the tier the SGX is in?
wow was not expecting a great tier for the sgx.
silk jungle
If I want to return an item that is opened but contains all of the original packaging and items will there be a restocking or shipping fee?
stoic shuttle
what is a good amount of wattage to run an i9, 3070, liquid cooling, and some rgb fans also would you recommend investing in a gold psu
brazen bison
I have a Seasonic Prime PX-1000 powering my watercooled Ryzen 3950X, 2080 Ti FE, and 4K60 Pro capture card... My on board audio, as well as any other audio I try to use with my PC for that matter, like a Sound Blaster Play USB audio DAC, gives me immense amounts of interference noise. I can hear the frequency of it change as the GPU's frame rate fluctuates in a game actually. Is my PSU the likely culprit here?
elfin trout
Hm, @tender root , you know what could give interference to a dedicated sound card?
elfin trout
Hm, I would've thought interference would be limited since it's on a separate card
surreal magnet
my 1080 FE interferes with my microphone input on my dedicated sound card
some GPUs just have bad power filtering that interferes with other PCIe devices
the headphone out isnt effected because it pulls power from a sata power connector
of course, he also mentions usb dacs and his onboard sound soooo
tender root
similar sounding problem Sassy, but different problem :)
tender root
its part of why we have power filtering on audio racks
@brazen bison you around still?
brazen bison
yep
tender root
does the power plug that you are connected to in the wall have a ground connection?
and by that i mean, an actual one
and not just a fake one
brazen bison
funny thing is, all my stuff is actually plugged into Furman power conditioners. Far as I know, the wall has a real ground connection
vocal tree
W-wait they make fake grounded sockets?
tender root
and all the way through you are grounded etc?
@vocal tree yes, there is plenty of that around.
brazen bison
How would I know if I wasn't?
tender root
the actual plugs between things
as in, you can easily take a 2 pin and plug in a 3pin socket
brazen bison
The third prongs are all plugged in yes.. no ground lifts
brazen bison
both
tender root
same amount of noise?
brazen bison
yep
tender root
no difference in pitch ?
brazen bison
same noise
and like I said, if I'm in a game and the framerate slows down, the noise changes tone along with it
tender root
aye aye, its (most likely) related to power draw in some fashion
could you try and shift the PCI-E power plugs you use on the PSU to a different set of ports?
you should have a bunch of them on that unit
brazen bison
ah I may try that when I tear it all apart to upgrade to my 5950X and 3090
tender root
also, i have to ask: but when you have tried onboard audio. Where did you plug speakers/headphones?
brazen bison
line out on mobo and headphone output on the case both
tender root
and equal noise on all?
brazen bison
yep
tender root
thats sounds more and more like a faulty part "somewhere"
but yea, pci-e plug switching is worth the test
how old is that DAC of yours?
brazen bison
a month or two maybe
tender root
got another system you could test it on?
brazen bison
nope
I also have a Schiit Hel headphone amp with a DAC. I get far less noise from it. But still get some.
but can't use the analog audio input because it is insanely noisy
tender root
hmm
i am going to have to think a bit more on that @brazen bison
i will get back to you after some sleep
hallow quiver
Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply or Phanteks AMP Series 650W 80PLUS Gold, ATX Power Supply, Fully Modular, Hybrid Mode, Silent Fan, Revolt PRO Link Certified
which one is better
elfin trout
Amp is better than MWE Gold
verbal breach
is powerspec a decent psu brand?
knotty blade
any good budget PC cases with good airflow that DON'T have punchout GPU Brackets?
knotty blade
hm
I don't think paying $80 - $100 is worth it for thumb-screw PCie brackets
basically I'd be looking at the H510 for $86 or the Meshify C for $105
teal flare
thats $60 though
knotty blade
I'm canadian tho
Its cool. I'll just have to be careful with the pop-out brackets whenever I can build my PC
knotty blade
definetly not
but then again its only $1587.46 (before tax and shipping) with the meshify c
versus $1542.46 with the Matrexx 55 Mesh
so I mean...
oof thats because its on sale
BUT, when the time to build my PC rolls around and I can grab it on sale for $105 or cheaper it'll be hella worth it
question is tinted glass or regular
oh and a bonus 2 fans with Meshify
cool
lofty pewter
55 Mesh is OP for its price if you're already getting fans
knotty blade
thats fair yeah
lofty pewter
few days ago was $45 cad before tax cuz sale
knotty blade
would just prefer to have the option of pcie covers with screws. More convenient. And yeah I have 3 Artic P12 fans on my build
lofty pewter
eh, you'd only need to worry about the PCIe covers if you get a sound/capture card, kinda. You get one PCIe cover that can be screwed in so any single slot thing is fine. Dual slot things like a GPU where you do dual GPU might be a bit annoying. Tho, you can always tape/glue the old ripped off one back on
knotty blade
GPU needs 2 slots worth
but still no biggie. Just need to plan where the GPU goes beforehand
lofty pewter
pretty much
knotty blade
ok now I really need to try and go to bed. coming up on 16 hours of being awake
lofty pewter
gn
scenic lance
hey guys I quickly wanted to ask if my galax 2070 super would fit in the vertical gpu mount that is available in the h510 elite as it is a two slot mount. Thanks!
the exact model is GALAX GeForce® RTX 2070 Super EX White (1-Click OC)
ruby otter
what's everyones opinion on the new lian li 011 mini
earnest mural
@scenic lance Pc part picker should tell u if it will.
Better safe than sorry to ask someone knowledgable i suppose
scenic lance
@earnest mural but it'll obviously say it is compatible because it'll only calculate in horizontal mounting
chrome iris
is powerspec a decent psu brand?
they make some good, some bad models
chrome iris
looks like a tight fit for gpus
@supple igloo
yeah im just worried about you trying to fit your 3000 series card in that other case and it not fitting
lmao
MX330-X is cheaper, has a psu shroud, and max length is 350mm
i mean, still worth it to save a few bucks right 
also the cougar has better cable managemetn
cool
white sleet
Not the airflow variant
Its ok not alot of room in the back for cable management, limited aio support as its a compact case
dense minnow
What case around the same price do you recommend
cosmic arch
What is the best budget case? Nothing over $60. Also, it has to be MATX
pastel zodiac
Should I get the cerberus sliger
verbal breach
@chrome iris I was thinking about the powerspec 650gsm. is that a decent model? i was told it wasn’t good for a 5700 xt though
hollow willow
Cheap good 650w psu?
oblique lark
Has anyone figured out where to order the Vertical GPU Bracket for the Lian Li 011 Mini?
tender root
@oblique lark have you asked Lian Li?
ruby otter
i need good itx case ideas please im from the UK
oblique lark
It’s really hard to recommend one. I’d suggest you look up Optimum Tech on YouTube and watch his reviews.
tender root
@oblique lark looks like it is just not out yet
ruby otter
@tender root is the goat who helped me out but they are expensive
tender root
@ruby otter you are already looking at the ones that are imo viable
but as we have talked about, its budget that limits you
oblique lark
I did preorder. So it might not be up till early Dec when they ship
tender root
aye, very likely @oblique lark
chrome iris
What is the best budget case? Nothing over $60. Also, it has to be MATX
MB311L
chrome iris
<@!513480752739123230> I was thinking about the powerspec 650gsm. is that a dece...
Looks like the GSM isnt that great of a unit, definitely try to go for better on a 5700 XT. Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 600w is like $80 rn, do that one instead. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sX7v6h/be-quiet-pure-power-11-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bn902
verbal breach
@chrome iris is the Antec NeoECO Gold Zen Series NE600G Zen 600W ATX12V 2.4 80 Plus Gold Certified any good?
chrome iris
its good, pure power 11 beats it by a little though
and last I checked they were same price, right?
verbal breach
ya pretty much
chrome iris
so yeah, worth it to spend a few more dollars on pure power 11
verbal breach
ok thank you
cosmic arch
@chrome iris, whats the difference between the MB311l and the 320b?
chrome iris
@cosmic arch 320b? Is that even a thing?
cosmic arch
I think, I dont remember what its called
chrome iris
yeah, theres no 320b that I can se
cosmic arch
MB320L
chrome iris
320L is tempered glass rather than mesh on the front panel
Get 311L instead, its better for airflow
cosmic arch
K
chrome iris
you sound like me lol
enermax has some really cheap "CyberBron" units up on newegg. They have flat all black cables. Its 80+ bronze rated. Anybody know the quality of these psus? They're new, I can't find anything about them https://www.newegg.com/enermax-cyberbron-ecb600awt-600w/p/N82E16817194136?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals+LLC&AFFID=208164&AFFNAME=Slickdeals+LLC&ACRID=1&ASUBID=6f5ebc4a2d1b11eb9170f682979f005c0INT&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=208164&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-Lp3rPLejBl8O_4Ct5n3klw
elfin trout
lol
scenic lance
is 850w 80+ gold enough to power the 3090 hybrid from EVGA?
dawn matrix
my guess would be probably not under full load, due to the random power spikes
at least i think those are still a thing
hardware induced, not software
lofty pewter
power spikes are about 600w or so, plus 200w CPU (decently OCed 5950x), plus 120w rest of system, all in total gets 920w. Still within the 10% overload that good PSUs can do well. Not to mention that the power spikes should be fixed soon as they shouldnt be happening. So you're fine with an 850w PSU unless you have a very power hungry CPU
celest vapor
If building a pc with an i9 9900k and a 3070 what ‘size’ psu would y’all recommend?
Not sure how much w they both take and this would be my first pc build
celest vapor
Would it be safer to get a 800?
celest vapor
There’s some good deals on rn that make it $319 and combo it with mobo to save another $40 on the mobo
celest vapor
What’s the price point on those?
teal flare
should be $300
slim venture
ya
teal flare
but not easy to find
slim venture
if you can get your hands on one
celest vapor
Ahhh okay
celest vapor
What should I search for exactly?
slim venture
a b550 or x570 since your budget seems to be higher
and a 5600x
or if you cant find any of amds new cpus you could get 3rd gen and still be good
celest vapor
R5 5600x?
slim venture
yes
celest vapor
Would I need to buy a cpu cooler? I’ve heard the amd stock coolers are fine but I’d rather be safe than sorry
slim venture
ya honestly
celest vapor
So amd is forward and backward compatible with their mb and cpu?
slim venture
a lot of aios are going for good deals rn
not exactly
bios updates brick old cpus
celest vapor
If I settled for a 3rd gen cpu though I’d be able to upgrade to a 5th gen when they come available without having to upgrade mobo?
celest vapor
Ah okay that’s what I was trying to ask
slim venture
as long as you have a b550 or an x570
celest vapor
What would be some good options for those?
slim venture
for b550 i wouldnt spend over $150
and x570 somewhere in the $165 range
b550 have limited features in comparison to x570
its not crazy tho
if you can find a b550 at a good price then i'd go for it
i can help you look in a bit
im doing some hw rn
celest vapor
Would it matter whether it is r5 7 or 9? What’s the differences?
slim venture
more cores and threads
and more is generally better
but 6 cores is becoming more standard so you'd be pretty safe with that
teal flare
if you are just gaming I’d stick with the 5600x
slim venture
if you wanted strictly performance for now i'd go with the 3600xt if the price is right
thats just a temporary fix
it'd last you until next year when they release 6th gen ryzen at the very least
celest vapor
I have a prebuilt msi night blade and it’s a microatx with an i7 7700 and a 1070 ti, not just starting with gaming but wanting to upgrade really
slim venture
you could just throw a new card in there
but it seems like you want a completely new system
celest vapor
It’s microatx so the case size won’t fit any of the new 30 series cards
Also looking to really build a new system and pass this one to another family member
Who doesn’t have a pc at all
celest vapor
I bought it second hand in really good quality for $1000 two years ago when parts were skyrocketed in price
slim venture
i'll link a build in a couple of minutes
celest vapor
Alright, thanks for the help!!
celest vapor
Yes preferably
slim venture
144hz?
celest vapor
I have a 144hz right now but could upgrade later
celest vapor
I would need to upgrade anyways for 1440p so if it’s not much more I’d probably just go for it
slim venture
trust me it is
1440p at 144hz is the sweet spot
ok i'll brb lemme go put something together
celest vapor
okay
celest vapor
Its nice looking but not absolutely required
slim venture
okay
celest vapor
So yes I suppose lol
celest vapor
Ah lol
celest vapor
The monitor isnt required atm I'm fine for settling with 1080 til i can upgrade it shortly down the road
slim venture
yeah that fan i put is a little on the overpriced side as well
lemme put sum cheaper
there lmao
celest vapor
would it be worth it to spend 30 more for the 3600x?
slim venture
np
steady walrus
Will my dark rock pro 4 fit in a td500 mesh?
uncut stump
is the DeepCool MATREXX 55 any good?
slim venture
It should @steady walrus
charred wolf
Hello, Very fast question seasonic gx750 or rm750x
And do they both have automatic change for the volts in my country we only use 220v
lofty pewter
@uncut stump if you are getting a pack of decent fans (upHere/EzDIY RGB fans or Noctua fans), AIO, or custom loop - basically when you buy other fans, it's a good case
otherwise, not really cuz you have to get extra fans
warm valve
im using a ryzen 5600x and an rtx 3070 and currently deciding on semi modular seasonic focus 750 vs full modular seasonic focus 650 as they are the same price
is there any recommendations?
uncut stump
<@!725492896748273824> if you are getting a pack of decent fans (upHere/EzDIY RG...
what about the thermaltake h18
ruby otter
Looking for a nice cheap sub 5L case
tender root
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1dzRY3LLsXcDX5Qt5PvQOrAJhw0EK9Cy7UtQPdyRp6PY/htmlview#gid=0 <- have a look @ruby otter
ruby otter
@tender root 😉
lofty pewter
what about the thermaltake h18
okay case, has too many layers of mesh at the front tho. Usually best to remove them but that becomes extra work as iirc they are not easy to remove. Good cheap case I'd say to get is Cougar mx330-g Air
dense minnow
anyone got any good atx cases for 80 or less?
dense minnow
ok ill have a look thanks
dense minnow
is the Corsair iCUE 4000X better?
ruby otter
is the Corsair iCUE 4000X better?
i use the 495x
dense minnow
ok
elfin trout
Glass = no airflow :(
dense minnow
hmm
frail onyx
anyone saw a good sfx power supply on sale for cyber monday?
frail onyx
Hello, Very fast question seasonic gx750 or rm750x
And do they both have automat...
seasonic > corsair
uncut stump
best cheap airflow case?
dawn matrix
phanteks p300a
uncut stump
i forgot to mention it should be M-atx
dawn matrix
nr400?
uncut stump
seems to be overpriced rn
dawn matrix
aaaa thats the one i was trying to find
could only find it with solid panel tho
so i thought it wasnt that one
prisma socket
how many wats do u need for a 2700x ans a 5600xt?
verbal breach
anyone know anything about high power psu?
slim venture
@prisma socket a 550 lmao
warped grove
anyone know anything about high power psu?
what's your question?
not saying i have answer, but need a question to offer an answer
i have a 1600W PSU in my new ML rig.. liking it
you know its big when the lights flicker when you turn on the computer
chrome iris
how many wats do u need for a 2700x ans a 5600xt?
500w+ will work
quasi dirge
I just got an alert from pc part picker that the price just went down to $129 for my Corsair power supply for my first build.
uncut stump
wattage for 2600 and rx5600xt?
chrome iris
yeah and it looks sooooo gooooooooooooooood
open sinew
ye corsair rgb
novel tendon
H500 or H500M for a new case?
hearty ice
thoughts on the upcoming seasonic case?
elfin trout
@novel tendon Both Coolermaster right?
novel tendon
<@!359157602829205505> Both Coolermaster right?
Yes
elfin trout
Good, I like the Coolermaster H500 at 100$, H500m comes with more fancy stuff but like 60$ more
novel tendon
Are there any other cases you would recommend or is this a good one?
elfin trout
I personally really like the look and performance (Using the mesh front panel that comes with it, not the solid one)
@novel tendon some other choices could be TD500 mesh, P500a, and Lancool ii mesh
novel tendon
Thanks. I really appreciate it.
elfin trout
:)
somber goblet
so why do people hate the lian li lancool ii non mesh, it may not be all mesh but that doesnt mean there is no mesh at all
elfin trout
Airflow
@somber goblet it's like saying why do people hate the H510, it might not be all intake but that doesn't mean there's no intake at all
Less intake on the side of the front panel is kinda... not great
scenic lance
U don’t need a 750w-850 w power supply
elfin trout
@dawn matrix P-GM is eh
scenic lance
SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (SSR-650GB3) - PCPartPicker
elfin trout
S12iii sucks
scenic lance
This is a good one and it’s cheep
elfin trout
Please don't
scenic lance
Why
elfin trout
Failure rate
scenic lance
It’s cheep it’s non modular
elfin trout
Ripple and all are to be expected with a cheap unit, but still makes it bad
dawn matrix
Fully mod and gold are specific wants of this psu
I think I’ll just get the 850w one too
Only $10 more than the 750w one
And they’re like, super super cheap compared to everything else, the P-GM’s
elfin trout
It's because it's not as good as the actually good gold ones
It's more like a CX than like amp
somber goblet
<@!691548652078104647> it's like saying why do people hate the H510, it might no...
well like the h510 just has some openings but the front panel of the lian li lancool ii x has some mesh on it, and it has the 2 120mm fan spots for the gpu, so idk about the h510 so it may not be bad but like the lancool ii should have good airflow
chrome iris
ive used the 450w variant of that. It's D tier, not good
deft breach
kk, cheers. There is a EVGA 500W for the same price, both of them 80+ Bronze, but was wonding about the Rosewill because it's 50W more
steady walrus
Would you guys say a 750 watt or 850 watt power supply for 5800x and a rtx3080?
chrome iris
850w if you can
steady walrus
Enermax revolution df 850 or corsair rm850x
deft breach
I'm running 750W on my 5600x and 3070 for reference
chrome iris
Enermax revolution df 850 or corsair rm850x
both are good
low forge
Hi all, I got directed here from Newegg on Twitter. I apologize if this question has been asked. I’m having trouble finding a case that will fit the artic freeze ii 420mm aio comfortably. I never built a pc, and I hear that the mother bored and fans can interfere because of the size of the radiator.
*motherboard
tender root
@low forge what is your budget for case?
and what are you trying to cool with that giant AIO?
low forge
I bought a 5900x, and I bought the 420mm aio. My budget is $200 USD or less (I don’t know if that’s reasonable)..
tender root
you are aware that the 420mm is way overkill right?
low forge
Yup.
low forge
Thanks Naed. I watched a ton of videos on YouTube, do I top mount it ?
tender root
in the define 7, that is the only place it fits
tender root
generally, go to the manufacturers site (of the case) and have a look at what they say about radiator support
low forge
Ohh ok, thank you.
tender root
re: what is 420mm for?: Anything that puts out a silly amount of heat
the problem/challenge with radiators of that size is case size going up too
because .. 42cm is a lot of space :)
low forge
I been searching online and it’s such a hassle finding a case
It’s like not worth all the effort lol
For me at least
tender root
2sec, let me just adjust that link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sVyqdD <- try that
then click on "choose a case"
it will NOT be 100% correct in its suggestions
but its a start
when you click "choose a case" you should have a screen with this at the top
low forge
I tried that right, but it’s like now I’m worried about the ram clearance and other fans getting in the ways . Thanks for taking the time
tender root
can you verify that?
tender root
kinda yes :)
but, for now, lets talk about the Define 7
because i know they have proper documentation and pictures
that picture specifically shows that the AIO (3 white fans mounted on a rad at the top) is moved TOWARDS us
that gives a LOT more clearance to work with
that is one way to solve what you asked about earlier
does that make sense?
low forge
Yes it does, thank you. But should I be thinking that a 420mm may be much thicker ? Or that’s not true
Oh I see, the radiator is hidden kinda
That’s why I just see the fans
tender root
aye, the "lip/edge" of the case hides the Rad itself
well, its the edge on the sidepanel, but same thing :)
dawn matrix
Depends on which specific model
elfin trout
Everyone makes good and bad PSUs
indigo tapir
Check this out on @Newegg: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-GA-0850-X1 https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-ga-220-ga-0850-x1-850w/p/1HU-00J7-004V4?Item=1HU-00J7-004V4&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-1HU-00J7-004V4-_-11232020
Thats the one im looking at
dawn matrix
Based on the psu tier list, that one is considered “low tier”
So, not recommended basically
indigo tapir
There is a tier list?
dawn matrix
It’s under pinned in build chat
Could go with a cooler master MWE gold or a Gigabyte GM for something around that same price
Those would both be better
vocal talon
steady walrus
Well enermax revolution df 850 is back to normal price, luckily got one while on sale
scenic lance
wouldn't recommend something completely unknown or from a sketchy brand
oak nimbus
i wouldnt recommend getting pc components from china
pastel zodiac
well does anyone have any experience with the toriel xl mk2
the only video i found was chinese
and i don't know chinese
oak nimbus
@pastel zodiac biggest question is why would you even consider that case to begin with?
pastel zodiac
i want something small and i dont want to spend 300 dollars on the cerberus
and it looks cool
strange briar
I just picked a branded case i knew and looked like it had good airflow
pastel zodiac
micro atx
oak nimbus
there are way more cases that are matx which works better than that
oak nimbus
i wouldnt trust buying from taobao if you arent familiar with it
pastel zodiac
what other options do you suggest?
pastel zodiac
you know how big that is?
oak nimbus
that case you wanted is basically itx at that point with the amount of slots it can support
pastel zodiac
i dont need a bunch of slots and plus it comes with a gpu riser cable
oak nimbus
378 x 198 x 411 mm (15 x 7.8 x 16.2 inch)
pastel zodiac
it is 50 liters
pastel zodiac
i think the toriel xl mk2 is going to be fun
oh yeah here is the link
to the toriel xl mk2
oak nimbus
its at 30.7 liters
oak nimbus
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/edit @pastel zodiac check this list, some choices might interest you
pastel zodiac
i went through all of the cases
in 10l-20l range
that fitted atx psus and matx motherboards
the toriel xl mk2 was the best choice
pallid isle
No idea where to ask this, so...
If you had cables all over the place and not organized, I guess, would more dust get caught?
oak nimbus
If you had cables all over the place and not organized, I guess, would more dust...
you would have filters to catch the dust first
pallid isle
No
oak nimbus
or are there holes on them?
pallid isle
No
oak nimbus
it would take long before it would accumulate on cables
pallid isle
Well there's a lot on the bottom of the case
pallid isle
No
oak nimbus
natural accumulation i guess
pallid isle
The one I'm talking about isn't a $1k+ PC lol
The cables probably wouldn't help though, right?
oak nimbus
would make cleaning harder
pallid isle
Okay
forest elk
Meshify C - will all 3080’s fit in that bad boy or just the FE
vocal talon
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/k011h3/dan_c4sfx_cad_is_done_280rad_triple_slot_sandwich/ looks promising from dan
unreal epoch
@elfin trout The O-11 Dynamic Mini supports up to 170mm tall Air Coolers.
unreal epoch
And it's only 99.99 USD
scenic lance
does an 850w psu use all of the 850w coming into it?
unreal epoch
No.
All PSUs are what are called Switching Power Supplies.
They will dynamically pull enough wattage instead of constantly pulling their maximum amount.
scenic lance
oh, cool, so what's the 80 stand for on the cover of the box?
unreal epoch
80 Plus is a standard for PSU Efficiency.
Generally 80 Plus Bronze is good enough for most low to mid-tier gaming rigs.
80 Plus Gold is for people who are using higher tier parts.
And, the 80 Plus rating also isn't the entire picture on how good a PSU is.
These are the temps for an O-11 Dynamic Mini with a DR4 (Not DRP4) with a 8700K at 4.8Ghz and a RTX 2060 Super
That's pretty impressive for a case that isn't Air Cooling focused at all.
pastel zodiac
isn't it the wattage it states is the maximum wattage it can support for a very short amount of time
unreal epoch
I believe that is Maximum Sustained Wattage
Most PSUs can peak a little beyond that, but most will trip Over Current Protection.
pastel zodiac
i heard online that you should get a power supply 2x the amount of wattage your system can draw
unreal epoch
That's a bit of an overstatement.
If you are getting an RTX 30 series GPU or an RX 6000 series GPU, you should aim to get about 100 to 150w more than your entire system can peak at, plus a PSU with less overzealous Over Current Protection
pastel zodiac
have you heard of 80+ white
unreal epoch
RTX 30 and RX 6000 GPUs can draw heavy spikes of current, and some PSUs will trip OCP and make your system shut down.
pastel zodiac
i dont understand where that would place my power supply on 80+ gold and so on
unreal epoch
80+ White is the bare minimum 80+ standard.
The 80+ standard is simply about Efficiency.
So, an 80+ Bronze PSU at 20% load MUST be 82% efficient.
unreal epoch
¯_(ツ)_/¯
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K6jLy4 Total build for reference.
This is purely a dream build right now.
gray marlin
what are the best RGB fans
Ill need 3, and for them to work with MSI's RGB software\
reef ridge
Ayo is the coolermaster haf xb evo a good case?
dark badger
On the subject of PSU wattage, is 750w enough headroom for a 5800x and a 3080, or would you recommend going a bit higher? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na
frail onyx
is a 600w psu enough for a 5600x and 6800x
in a itx format
According to my pcpp list, im using 389w
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/fishijoe/saved/Hvr8rH
granite egret
The link you posted says the parts list is private
young osprey
that cooler might not fit in the case
also it is complete overkill
also don't pay the samsung tax
young osprey
and get a more sensible NVME thats 512 GB instead
frail onyx
the 250gb is only for OS
young osprey
oh if you already have it then whatever
frail onyx
nothing else
granite egret
I checked the cooler height support for the case and it checks out
young osprey
well if the case says it has clearance then go for it i guess
still overkill and you could save some money there
granite egret
Though I'll admit, a little weird going with a massive air cooler for itx
frail onyx
yeah the main question I have is if 600w is enough for my build
frail onyx
still overkill and you could save some money there
which element is overkill?
young osprey
the CPU cooler is overkill for a 65w TDP CPU
granite egret
The 5600X is a 65w tdp chip, it doesn't need a big cooler like that basically
young osprey
spend $50-60 on a shadow rock 3, or Mugen 5 or even cheaper a gammaxx 400
granite egret
AIO would kind of be the same answer, though admittedly it would be more space efficient
frail onyx
I work using PowerBI so I require more cpu power
and also aethetics...
ngl that cooler is very good looking
but if you have a good cooler to suggest
granite egret
If you need more CPU power why are you getting the lowest sku?
young osprey
if you need more CPU power then you need more CPU
frail onyx
well the 5600x is gonna be able to fill my needs for PowereBI
I checked and a 5900x would be overkill for that
sour loom
Can someone help me, my motherboard requires a 6 pin for the cpu and so does my gpu, i only have - 6 pin on my psu
young osprey
CPU should be 4 or 8 pin
sour loom
8 pin sorry
granite egret
CPU shouldn't need 6 
sour loom
I don’t have an 8 pin on psu
granite egret
Well it's technically 2 4 pins right next to eachother
That's what the connector looks like
vocal tree
CPU 2 pin
granite egret
Okay yeah that will work
sour loom
But I need another 4
granite egret
The extra 4 is for power overhead for overclocking, what's the system?
sour loom
2600, gigabyte ds3h, 1060
vocal tree
even if a board has 4+4, you only really need one 4 pin
granite egret
Yeah the one 4 pin will boot and work fine
vocal tree
if your PSU has 4+4, might as well plug it in
frail onyx
So is my build gonna be okay with a 600w psu or should I go for 650?
granite egret
How much would you save going with a 600w?
sour loom
So which pins should I use for the 4 pin
frail onyx
How much would you save going with a 600w?
around 40$ but my objective is not to save just not overbuy
granite egret
Cause keep in mind there's more to a power supply than just having enough power to supply to your system, and it's not just the main components. It's also your peripherals, monitor(s), fans
Uh there's efficiency curves as well
vocal tree
@frail onyx also I suggest using the higher capacity SSD for the OS, the higher the capacity, the better the performance
granite egret
Like a power supply is most efficient when it's only drawing 50% capacity
frail onyx
These are the two psus in question
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Factor-Modular-Certified-Warranty/dp/B01CGI5M24/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=sgx+650&qid=1606255373&sr=8-7
https://www.amazon.ca/Seasonic-SGX-650-Full-Modular-Warranty-SSR-650SGX/dp/B07WVWMVP5/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=sgx+650&qid=1606255299&sr=8-1
vocal tree
probably not noticeably
frail onyx
<@!186237727887327232> also I suggest using the higher capacity SSD for the OS, ...
I already have my ssds but windows roughly takes more than 100GB
vocal tree
should take like 30 lol
granite egret
Yeah I don't think the 50w will make a big difference honestly
frail onyx
so you're saying the 600 will be plenty enough? with 200W of headroom it could be able to handle if the CPU goes into boost
or the gpu
because I guess they mesure the wattage of the components when they are going 100%
granite egret
Well they do recommend 650w for the 6800 anyway
But technically that accounts for overhead anyway, it's more than the actual minimum
frail onyx
yeah and 2nvme and 1hdd are not gonna suck up all that headroom
granite egret
Oh hand on I think I might have alternative that's 650w
frail onyx
there is another sfx than these twos?
frail onyx
newegg's psu calculator gives me 470 watts usage
446*
Unless nvmes do count as ssd
if i exclude them im at 366
granite egret
Well of course they do
frail onyx
do they? because they dont need to be connected directly to the PSU so that may require less power or maybe im totally wrong
granite egret
Well I don't know how much power it uses, but it sure does use power
PCPP implies up to 10w each, so not much I guess
vocal tree
https://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html if this is to be believed
hard drives use like 10 watts, and SSDs use less than 5
tender root
that is close enough @vocal tree
vocal tree
🙃
torpid flume
i ordered the big NZXT H510 sale on newegg.ca, but i realized i will be using air cooling with my 5600X, so i want to get the Phanteks Eclipse P400A(fan controller) or P300A
need help deciding between the two
frail onyx
and @young osprey the other reason I went overboard with the d15 is because it was surprisingly on sale at the same price as a shadow rock 4 or a d15s
torpid flume
the P400A is $25 more
frail onyx
will you be needing the fan controller or your motherboard has enough headers?
and you could alternatively just buy fan splitters for like 5$
torpid flume
motherboard is a x570 gaming edge wifi so im sure it has enough headers
ill check though
wait it was the b550 gamign edge wifi
the motherboard has enough for all of the P400A without the fan controller lol
fan slots*
the p400a also comes with 1 more fan
frail onyx
motherboard is a x570 gaming edge wifi so im sure it has enough headers
i have the same b550 motherboard and no you wont have enough fan headers since the nvme fan uses one
torpid flume
p400a fits 3 fans on the front instead of 2 and has a vent over the metal that covers the PSU
oh
frail onyx
wait is the motherboard an ITX?
granite egret
I believe it's a standard ATX board
torpid flume
atx yeh
frail onyx
oh my bad
i have a b550i
did not read correctly
you should have enough fan headers on an atx
torpid flume
it says 6
system fans
how do fan controllers work? do they have fan connectors on them or does it just plug into your mobo?
sounds like the fan controller has its own connectors on it, so im guessing they would have put enough connectors on it for the amount of fans the case supports
wintry plover
Can anyone teach me which pci-e 6+2 pin cable which is compatible for GP-P850GM ??? It has 5 slots to put but only gave me 2 cables for gpu. my gpu needs 8+8+8 direct power support.
dawn matrix
it should come with more cables i thought
lofty pewter
On gigabytes website
dawn matrix
yikes
oh wait i think that the psu im getting
heh
does it look good otherwise G-U?
lament iris
does anyone know if the Corsair 4000D Airflow case is able to fit a high profile ram stick like the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro?
dawn matrix
the case having issues fitting ram?
lament iris
My Corsair 220T is too cramped and wont fit high profile ram sticks so i was hoping to get a new case with more room.
lament iris
oh im sorry i forgot to mention i have a AIO cpu cooler on the roof of the case. so if i get a high profile ram stick itll hit the cooler.
dawn matrix
ahhh
hmm
and you dont just want to move it to the front of the case, instead of buying a whole new one?
lament iris
no id prefer it to be on top. it wouldnt fit anyways cuz my graphics card is too long.
dawn matrix
this picture shows an aio on top with dominator ram
im pretty sure vengeance is lower than dominator
lament iris
oh okay. i see. i didnt notice that before. thank you!
dawn matrix
np
zealous crypt
im buying a new gpu and i have a 500w psu, i put my parts into PC part picker and it totals to 394W and its not telling it me it would be a problem, obviously i should get a new PSU but do i need to for this rn?
zealous crypt
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz
MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card
rn i have a rx580
wintry plover
guys that PSU has only 2 cables(but Y cables). I searched that many PSU manufacturer suggest to put 8+8+8 directly to GPU ( total 3 cables)
If we use Y cables it may cause damage to GPU or PSU. It causes high temperature
dawn matrix
i remeber talking with someone earlier and they said as long as the company doesn cheap out on wire gauge i think it was, piggy-backing the cables shouldnt be too much of a problem
like, what would be the point of putting them on there if they had no purpose anyways
wintry plover
It has 5 pcie slot to use in this psu
but psu company only gave me total 4 cables
2 cpu cables and 2 gpu cables...
frail onyx
how do fan controllers work? do they have fan connectors on them or does it just...
some controllers plug into a usb header on your mobo
wintry plover
@dawn matrix the PSU itself looks good. but if you have 8+8+8 gpu you will get trouble.
dawn matrix
im just getting a 2070, so 8+8
wintry plover
but newegg is now selling 8+8+8 gpu + that psu as a bundle
dawn matrix
well, im sure theres some way to buy extra cables from somewhere
the manufacturer has to supply them as far as im aware
wintry plover
there is no way for gigabyte psu, sadly.
wintry plover
gigabyte said I have to wait their answer by email.
and they don't sell extra cables. haha
so I got 3080 aorus xtreme and 3090 aorus xtreme + 2 gigabyte PSU but I can only run 1 GPU at the moment..
unreal epoch
@lament iris Having your radiator on top is a BAD idea.
lament iris
<@!252198820543332352> Having your radiator on top is a BAD idea.
howcome?
lament iris
Give me a minute to remember
oh okay lol
unreal epoch
Ok, my B, Top Mount is ok.
Realistically the ideal mount is Front Mount with Bottom Tubes
Don't do this.
You want to avoid the Pump (in the case of most AIO coolers, the CPU block IS the Pump) being at the top of the loop
lament iris
You want to avoid the Pump (in the case of most AIO coolers, the CPU block IS th...
oh okay i see. my AIO is on the top of my pc case
torpid flume
some controllers plug into a usb header on your mobo
it sounds like there is a splitter to have two or all three front fans that come with the case to be on one header on the fan controller itself. I don't know how power gets to the fan controller but if it takes a mobo header, as long as it has the splitter I will still have enough headers for all 6 fans
oh a usb header, i should have a spare one of those
but either way im not going to stress about the fan controller, i just got the P400A, it looks a lot better and has better air cooling cause 3 front fans instead of two and a vent on the part that covers the PSU
loud falcon
Which case should I buy Montech X1 White ATX Mid-Tower Case/High Airflow, Front Mesh Ventilation, Tempered Glass Side Panel, Pre-Installed 4 x 120mm Autoflow Rainbow LED Fans https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CMWD2XM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_qdCVFbRPK8BWP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Or
darkFlash DLM21 MESH Micro ATX Mini ITX Tower MicroATX White Computer Case with Door Opening Tempered Glass Side Panel & Mesh Front Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082LZ844J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_hfCVFbZ39S9T6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
granite egret
The Montech seems appealing if you're trying to save money with all the fans it comes with. Though I can't really vouch for the quality of them. The Darkflash is nice for being able to easily slap in your own fans. It doesn't come with fans, that could mean that the overall case is built better
loud falcon
Ok so which one should I get
Here’s my parts list so you can see what I’m putting in it
granite egret
I'm not sure about those fans, I doubt they would be much better than the ones the montech case come with
loud falcon
Oh
granite egret
Might as well go with the montech then unless you're willing to shell out for quality fans
loud falcon
Which fans do you recommend
granite egret
Hmm actually I think they come in white too, let me grab that link
loud falcon
Ok
granite egret
granite egret
Yeah that would be pretty good
loud falcon
Or is there another case around the same price that you would recommend
granite egret
None that I can think of actually
loud falcon
Ugh but thanks anyways
chilly sandal
White
loud falcon
frail onyx
is it me or the second one looks like a fractal design meshify ripoff?
chilly sandal
Actually they’ve got NZXT H510i vibes
gusty pelican
oak nimbus
Actually they’ve got NZXT H510i vibes
h510i + meshify mini with the airflow of the meshify
chilly sandal
Yeah
oak nimbus
its a good case for matx if you want it simple
granite egret
It's probably fine, but what are you gonna use it in? I wouldn't trust that to a high end system anyway
dawn matrix
if you're going to cheap out on anything, not the PSU
vocal tartan
i wouldn't trust raidmax anything
dark badger
Is a 3080 + 5900x combo alright with just 750 watt, or should I stretch to 850 watt?
fickle forge
How much is ur current psu
unborn panther
@dark badger you should be fine at 750
dark badger
Alright, thanks. And this would be a theoretical new build, assuming I could find things in stock. My current is a 600w, which for sure doesn’t cut it lol
unborn panther
Just make sure to get a gold or above
dark badger
Will do, thanks again
unborn panther
Dont wanna risk it with a psu, psu goes out it usually tries taking other things with it
lapis fog
Is there any fancy case with either a screen or LED to output stuff like CPU temp (apart from snowblind)
soft wagon
Are UPS topics okay here? I would like to ask some things about it
dawn matrix
@lapis fog there aren’t cases that I know of which do that, but I saw a video awhile back of I think GN Steve connecting an lcd screen from amazon to sata power and a motherboard port for the information
Not exactly sure how it worked, but there’s a video on it somewhere
steady walrus
Would you reccomend the 4000d airflow or lancool 215?
spring rampart
I am looking for a $45 micro atx case that has great airflow so far i only found the Q300L
scenic lance
Any good Semi Modular 650W PSUs
elfin trout
What budget, what currency
scenic lance
Idk about budget
tbh
I just need a good one so I can search it up on pc part picker to get
elfin trout
Meh, modular gives you more options
scenic lance
I think semi would be better than full
elfin trout
Phanteks amp, RMx, MWE Gold, etc
scenic lance
Full looks confusing for a beginner like me
scenic lance
scenic lance
fr?
I thought
What about RMX isn’t that good too?
What is better RMX or Phanteks AMP? @elfin trout
elfin trout
Basically same thing actually
scenic lance
lmao
minor portalBOT
minecraft gamer#5423 has been warned
pliant charm
so evga ba and br are in minor issues or lack of info in the psu list but vte is is reg tier c so do I get vte.(its also cheaper)
indigo galleon
Should I go for full modular tho :/? <@!278694081440251905>
Fully modular is better than semi modular and non-modular
loud falcon
Anyone know of a good case for $55 to at comes with 3 fans
oak nimbus
Someone suggest a case that looks like the h510i but doesnt have its bad airflow and can mount multiple fans at the top
teal flare
how is front mesh bad airflow
granite egret
Seriously look at it closely
teal flare
just zoom in
granite egret
Maybe NZXT will get the memo some day 
loud falcon
Does anyone know what type of fans the mx330g air come with
mellow field
any recc for a 450w psu?
loud falcon
Evga b5 650w 80+ bronze or antec neo eco 750w 80+ gold
steady walrus
Will the dark rock pro 4 fit in the td500 mesh?
oak nimbus
@steady walrus try pairing it on pcpartpicker
i think it will tell you if it will fit or not
ebon osprey
PSU okay?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vfj6Bc
indigo galleon
PSU okay?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vfj6Bc
That should be fine, what are you using the pc for?
ebon osprey
game, video, work, photoshop, after effects, illustrator, premiere
chrome iris
Yes should be totally fine. HX is a really good model
lucid forum
happy thanksgiving love you all 🥰
latent quiver
Can anyone recommend any cases that are 80$ or lower?
Airflow doesn't really matter much
and prefered Atx
versed tusk
Can anyone recommend any cases that are 80$ or lower?
If you are ok with rebates, I own this case, and it is excellent. $70 after a $25 rebate (note- rebate expires at the end of this month i think). https://www.newegg.com/brushed-black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854042
meshify c i've also head good things about - https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-dark-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352072
latent quiver
I'll probably go with the meshify c
warped blaze
scenic lance
i am going with td500
its perfectly fine to get this one eventhough no rebate, when u open amazon its actually 73 bucks
scenic lance
it says there's no compatibility issues with the things i chose (case w/ motherboard), but it makes me wonder where all those ports would come out of on the motherboard from the case. im guessing it comes out of the top left part shown here right? (motherboard is an MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk) nvm i just realized i was right lol
ionic falcon
I'm having issues with a PSU and a case. So I chose the DIYPC Alnitak, and when I went to pick a PSU, for some reason it said that that it the option wasn't available. Why is that?
vernal widget
is the rosewill photon 750w psu good?
granite egret
Eh, I dunno I would say avoid Rosewill
open sinew
the corsair power supply was on rebate 2 days ago
simple zephyr
Hey all, I was looking at the coolermaster 650W 80+ Gold psu
But on amazon there is a v1 and v2 version
Any thoughts on which one is better
granite egret
Not sure which would be better, but is there a price difference?
simple zephyr
Barely a difference
Less than 10$ difference on amazon
And the v1 is only barely cheaper cause they restocked, it usually costs 99$ as well, like v2
granite egret
Then if I were to guess , the v2 is probably a logical improvement over the v1. Probably an insignificant change
But eh if it's like 10 bucks might as well go for it
granite egret
Well it's likely just a slight revision
elfin trout
Hm?
rocky brook
what kind of psu would be the most reliable
rocky brook
i was thinking of getting an rm850
proud idol
want to buy a CORSAIR RMx Series RM550x CP-9020177-NA 550W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
Maximum Power: 550W but i need to know how long the 24 pin cable is and the cpu cable so it will fit in my case HELP !!!!!!!!
elfin trout
What budget
rocky brook
no real budget
simple zephyr
Are links allowed?
elfin trout
@proud idol 95% of the chance it doesn't matter, it'll just work, try to find specs on corsair's website
@rocky brook eh, there's a lot of good PSUs, d.f. is out of stock rn so try Phanteks Amp 750w
simple zephyr
rocky brook
you recommend phanteks over corsair?
elfin trout
simple zephyr
proud idol
<@781634334498357248> 95% of the chance it doesn't matter, it'll just work, try ...
got a seasonic and tthe cable was way to short
elfin trout
?
rocky brook
also the place i ordered a case from sent me the wrong one so i'm sending it back, i was going to get a fractal define 7 but someone was telling me they get hot?
i heard the opposite from most others
just wondering if that's true at all
elfin trout
Dunno man, most of the time it reaches easily
I personally don't care about cable management btw
simple zephyr
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M9DQN8Q?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 would you say this is a good psu
proud idol
Dunno man, most of the time it reaches easily
if i knew it was at least 400mm it would work
elfin trout
What case?
I can't think of a time where it's more than like 200mm from psu to 24pin
proud idol
I can't think of a time where it's more than like 200mm from psu to 24pin
fractal design
elfin trout
Which one
Focus g, Meshify C, define r7, etc?
@simple zephyr SSD overpriced, ram is interesting.
proud idol
meshify